Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

First for gay Dangels

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2nd for non-chaos renegades.

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We should probably just drop the list builder thing from the OP links at some point given, you know, it's not actually a useful link.

Pic unrelated.

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Nth for Perturabo and the Iron Warriors, fuck the Imperial Fisters!

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Game turned into a 2v2.l where he got crons and I got yiffs. I REALLY needed that objective.

>>54271137
>only space wolves to not be covered in pelts and other wolf related items

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>>54271140
IRON WITHIN
IRON WITHOUT

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Is it true that Duncan got squatted?

>>54271186
Nah. You got squatted, Anon.

>>54271186
No he just cross dresses from time to time, its cool

>>54271195
>>54271186

>Squat yourself famalam

Start collecting Thousand Sons when?

>>54271209
He cross-dresses as an asian?

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40 meters snipers Tau Suit when ??

>>54271281
>he doesnt cross-dress as a different race

Are you some sort of queer?

>>54271312
Isn't that the stormsurge?

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>>54271343
Stormsurge Caliber is wayyyyy to small.
I just want a suit basically wearing IG shadowsword guns.

>>54271343
Stormsurge is neither a sniper nor even technically a suit. It's an anti-titan firing platform.

>>54271130
Remonder that FFG is non-canon.

>>54271079
Considering he allowed the absolutely evil rulers of Nuceria to stay in charge since they bowed before him, i'd wager that yes, there were some pretty evil fucks in charge.

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How do I know when my paints are thin enough?

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Wanna paint Raptors; FW recommends Loren Forest and Duncan used Castellan Green; none really seems to fit imo.

Thoughts?
Pic related

>>54271281
>being this low level of cross dresser
pff, git gud scrub

>>54271358
That's called a Titan.
If you want to play with titans, play imperium. The models already exist.
Stop trying to make Tau all about suits.

>>54271186
THICC

>>54271369
when you need multiple coats to cover the base layer

>>54271358
That skitarii with the plasma caliver has been playing too much doom.

>>54271150
Wait, wut?
Did you cockblock a troop of immortals with TWO (2) landraiders?
The fuck was so important?

>>54271396
No those are my opponents land raiders...and my soon to be very dead Scions.

>>54271379
Tau is nothing but suits. The allied races are just retard cannon fodder that always need help from superior manta deployments

>>54271369
>tau
>painted
You trying to meme me son?

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>>54271362
GW has never said that, and the 8th edition galaxy map has the Calixis Sector labeled, so I'm going to call bullshit.

>>54271239
Never. Remeber that amazing Exalted Sorcs kit? Yeah its boxed with three Sorcs meaning the sprus cant be used properly for a single HQ.
Besides 1 TSon HQ and a 10 man rubric squad is what 450 points? Nothing else fits.

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Is it worth it to find chinaman or is M.I. an alright alternative?

>>54271422
So your opponent wanted an objective so hard he was willing to throw 2 landraiders (and whatever wrecking crew he had on them) AND a squad of immortals to shift you off?
That better have been the most important statue in the sector.

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>>54271084
So I've read a lot of Aaron Dembski-Bowden. His work is generally of pretty solid quality and as a CSM player I enjoy the successful Chaos aspect that most 40k books lack.

I just finished MoM and I don't know what the hell happened. The Emperor gets half killed by the sword Abby carries around? The part I couldn't stand though was the "I don't know" followed by an afterward that was basically "Chaos wins herp derp, Horus doesn't mater." I feel like the Custode saying "Well we'll just kill Horus and build a new one." made way too much sense and the Emperor just kinda pouts. The fuck?

Alright anons, what's the best LoW Chaos can take?

>>54271462
>Chondax, Deliverance and Medusa aren't important enough to appear on this map
>Rynn's world is

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>>54271358
this enough for ya?

>>54271186
Not gunna lie, Emma is super cute. I wish i could apply my skull white in 2 thick coats to her if you know what i mean

>>54271379
>stop trying to make Tau about the best thing about them

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>>54271379
>Stop trying to make Tau all about suits.
Do you actually read the lore ?
Of course not.
Suits is what give T'au their battlefoeld superiority. Without siit T'au get heavily BTFO both inlore and on the table.

>Rushed into deployment after the success of the R'varna battlesuit, the XV109 Y'vahra is a Class 10 battlesuit designed for devastating shock assault. To facilitate this role, the Y'vahra is equipped with a triple barreled phased-plasma flamer capable of vaporizing even hardened ceramite, and a massive EMP Discharge Cannon designed to incapacitate enemy war engines. The complex vectored thruster array incorporated into the Y'vahra's impressive armor allows it to traverse the battlefield in long graceful bounds, slamming into the greatest concentration of the enemy and reaping a heavy toll in lives before jetting away.[1]

>The Y'vahra battlesuit originates with the same Earth caste engineer as the R'varna, Fio'O Ke'lshan Sho'Aun, infamous for his resistance to the will of the Ethereal Council as much as his genius at weapons design. The Y'vahra represents a disturbing paradigm shift in the tactics of the pragmatic Ke'lshan Sept, in whom long years under near constant attack by alien forces has bred a stubborn pragmatism and siege mentality. The new XV109 is clearly a design intended to carry the fighting to the enemies of the Ke'lshan, perhaps marking a new stage of expansion on the Tau Empire's neglected eastern border

>>54271186
Who's the fat chick?

>>54271186
Stop shit-stirring faggot.

In case you are actually clueless, Emma is the poor replacement who does videos when Duncan has more important shit to do. For example for one of the AoS releases Emma did the boring infantry while the Dunc-Meister did the gianormous centerpiece model. Then they let her do a giant centerpiece model once, all hell broke loose and now she's back to sideshow material.

>>54271551
>fat
m8, she is barely THICC let along fat

Does anyone have the Death Guard booklet from Dark Imperium in PDF? (checked the MEGAs but couldn't find it!)

>>54271454
bitch, there used to be more types of fighting vehicles than there were types of suits. The further that shifts towards suits the worse the faction gets.

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>>54271522
Aaron's father was a drunk who beat his mother, so he takes it out on the dad character of 40k. He's also a self admitted chaos fanboy.

>>54271529
Armored Core called, they want Nine-ball back.
>>54271462
Calixis is labeled because it was created by GW, not FFG. Every other sector was, tho, so they don't appear.

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>>54271529
Its good indeed.
They should make a suit wielding only this weapon as a much cheaper alternative and its basically what I ask for.

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>vendetta down to 1 wound after opponent's shooting fase
>he charges it with a dragoon
>1 lascannon hits for 4 wounds on overwatch
>vendetta crashes and burns after melee
>dragoon suffers 2 mortal wounds and dies
>all 12 occupants survive the crash and secure the objective nearby objective , granting me a vp and denying the enemy 2 as he had to hold that objective for 2 turns
>unload into his backline with plasma and hot shot lasguns in rapid fire range
god i love the imperial navy

>>54271568
Why do they even keep him if he's just going to keep splerging?

>>54271239
Thousand Sons
>Sorcerer in Terminator Armour
>Tzaangors
>Chaos Spawn
>Rhino

>>54271562
shh, let the virgin think anything that's not as thin as his animu waifus is a fat pig.

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>finding the several un-painting riptides on reseller webpages

>>54271545
have you read the lore?
The one where they think the idea of the huge slow moving Titan is stupid and antithetical to the way of war.

The fucking new lore that's 'suits suits suits' is the bullshit.

Suits are meant to be fast response support units, with even the broadsides supposed to be deployable from transports. The giant slow walking machines loaded with guns are what imperial titans are.
Adding them makes Tau LESS unique. They're just titans, not even different styles of titans like the CW eldar, just imperial titans. Big slow walkers loaded down with guns.

>>54271369
When it's water.

Probably asked before: In 7th edition a HQ on bike (Space Marines) could make bikers into regular troops. I cannot find any mention of that in 8th edition.
So I guess that is history? Or did I miss something?

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So I'm planning to make a Stormtrooper army, to go alongside my existing guard. Lots of Tauroxes carrying hot-shot volleygun squads and deepstriking suicide plasma/melta.

Question is, so I use the regular minis, or buy Solar Auxilia from Forgeworld as proxies? They're heavily armoured enough to pass, but I've never bought resin models before, are they really delicate? Is the fat kid at the store going to snap them in half when he picks them up with his cheeto'd fingers?

Despite being Forgeworld, per model, it actually works out slightly cheaper to use the Auxilia than the five-man Scion box.

>>54271636
This.
Even the first big suit was spoken of in fluff as some monstrous waste of resources that was built on the down low by a rogue engineer.
>>54271607
Most of BL's writers are chaosfags, that's why.

>>54271137
Iron hands not having, well, iron hands...Nut that yellow if IF looks amazing.

>>54271653
That is no longer the case.
Now, you take the detachment that allows for an outsized number of fast attack slots.

>>54271653
No, you can't do that anymore. But since there is a detachment that requires Fast Attack instead of Troops, you can still make a legal army out of only Bikes and a Captain of Bike.

Not a T'au player (or fan of the fluff) but shouldn't all battlesuits like crisis suits have BS+3? Seems weird that crisis suits are BS+4 and Commanders have BS+2, don't all the suits have advanced optical systems?

>>54271656
And they loved that suit.

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>>54271683
>>Not a fan or player
>>T'au
>>BS+3

Get out.

>>54271683

Honestly, commanders should likely be BS 3+ but very few HQs get non-2+ right now.

The advanced optical systems generally are represented by the fact a suit will be firing multiple weapons at full accuracy.

>>54271683
They still got retard eyes

>>54271688
No, they almost had the guy executed until they found out that it wasn't a failure.
However, on the table, it would be like IG becoming nothing but tanks and infantry elements disappearing, it makes the army less fun and rounded.

>>54271369
the meme is like skim milk, but really it's when it flows smoothly off the brush into any recesses and around any edges without obscuring the details, but not so thin as to not still coat the outer layers.

>>54271708
>most HQ's are bs 2+
when will they buff the guard ? all we get are 3+

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>STILL no Mortarion pics

>>54271705
Honestly I play Necrons but frankly want to get an Deathskulls Ork army for 8th Edition. Incidentally both factions will likely crush the T'au when you look at the galactic map.

>>54271545
Tau use their suits to support their main force, not to be the main force.
Shitty FW writing doesn't change that.

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>>54271636
>Stop trying to make T'au about suits by wanting Ultrafast sniper gundam in T'au!!

>Gets BTFO

>HUNHUN ACHTUACALLYY YOU WANT A SLOW MOVING POS HAHA GTFO

??

>>54271573
>Calixis is labeled because it was created by GW, not FFG. Every other sector was, tho, so they don't appear.
Please show me a single mention of it before Dark Heresy was released.

>>54271724
the only one whose gun matters is Pask, he's BS2+.

>>54271717
Isn't that the two ways to play IG, overwhelming infantry or a wall of mobile steel?

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>>54271594

>>54271545
>tfw it's either that or 2 xv9's
Will probably be the y'vahra, but they're just too cool.

>>54271631
It's great isn't it?

>>54271724
your HQ is also 1/4th of the price of every other race hq, whole making you skip the whole morale thing

>>54271683

It is weird thing that has to do with how markerlights worked before

>>54271636

Eh, Keels, tides, and Y'Vahras aren't slow walkers though
The SS is really the odd one out

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>>54271680
>>54271681

Thanks! I really need to read

>>54271713
What's the fluff reason again, T'au eyes can't dilate like ours? Wouldn't that cripple their vision during daylight?

>>54271496
I had two cards for it and he was miffed I dropped right on it. He neglected to move close enough to block me previously.

>>54271768
You know that Dark Heresy was created by Black Industries, which was a partner to Black Library, and own by GW directly, right?
That GW literally owns all rights to the Calixis sector, being created by an inhouse studio?
It's not an FFG construct, it was made by GW, and GW has full rights to use it.
Also, it was mentioned in the Eisenhorn series.

>>54271765
>new tau suits are shit and don't fit the previous fluff.
>uses the fluff from the new tau suits. Not the previous fluff.

If you want giant skyscraper sized piloted walkers, those already exist in 40k. You do not need new models, they are already made.
Search under "40k Titan model" you will find plenty of options.

Next time you ask for new models, ask for models that don't already exist.

>>54271724
Yes, it really hurts that your Commander's Las Pistol only hits on 3+.

>>54271800
Why they have blacksun filters, too bright.

Even though they're from a desert planet.

>>54271764
Tau have advanced, prepared to see zaku formations and space mech battles.
Beats being "guard but better".

>>54271150
>Every RGG and GGA game Ive ever seen is their fully painted Regiments against basecoat or prime armies.
God bless you Guardfags, everyone.
Truly they are TEE GEE FORTY KAY GENERAL

>>54271842

Tau are, physically, rather a joke of a race. They'd be likely served better by getting rid of the Fire Caste and training other races to use their equipment.

>>54271780
Now talk away infantry entirely, or relegate it to "hey, you can do this, but why would you ever, since it is barely supported in lore OR in rules?".

>>54271838
>fast mobile firing platforms don't suit the tau at all
Wow you're retarded.

>>54271827
Consider myself corrected.

Still, everything is still canon unless GW declares it non-canon or it conflicts with new fluff.

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>>54271776
>tfw i can't use him cause i don't play cadians
shame to cause i have the model on the far left and he'dd make for a nice pask

>>54271795
Tau'nar.

And I don't really hate the Ghostkeel, it's also a fast response unit and too small to be a true vehicle.
The Tide is pushing it, it's basically just a hover tank, and tau already get hovertanks, give Tau a new hovertank.
The Y'Vahras... even the fluff they pushed out states that it's contrary to the Tau style of war.

>>54271838
>>new tau suits are shit and don't fit the previous fluff.

Cite the previous fluff then. I'll wait.

>>54271842
Yeah eyes that can't dilate despite being born on a desert planet makes no sense.

>>54271857
The sad part is, this is true. Most Tau and Eldar armies are either grey or just barely basecoated. Most Marine armies are in the most simplistic colour schemes they can get away with. But Guard and Mechanicus are almost always painted. Not necessarily well painted, but even shitty paintjobs beat facing off against a wall of grey.

>>54271655

They're not exceedingly delicate but they are very detailed and are canon wearing carapace, so it's perfectly fine to use them as scions. They don't have the same special weapons which is a bigger deal with scions since you have 4 special weapons troopers per 10, so you'll need to convert a bunch of plasma guns or volley guns to make it work.

Also the other thing is that auxilia are super fucking expensive and scions cost less points than tactical marines even with all their upgrades, so you're going to sink a lot of money plus time into making it work.

If you amenable to the plastic scions, their start collecting box is almost tailor made for expanding them into an IG army and you can always get another if you want more since you want to spam everything in the box anyway, besides the commissar

Are T'au easy to paint? They look easy to paint.

I just started with Death Guard and they've got loads of different textures, little recesses and shit you need to dig into.

T'au look flat and boring. Worth giving a go?

>>54271522
ADB is a talented writer, he tries to humanize chaos (marines) and what he does he does it right, now for MoM which is one of the few materials where the Emperor Himself takes a centerpiece WHO thought that letting a writer that mostly focused in Chaos and chaos accessories would be a good choice for a writer?

it just seems to take every single portrait of the Emperor as a good but brutal person and throw it away for the Angron perspective of "evil tyrant that is just slightly more evil than the dark gods" it makes no sense

I mean I enjoyed the portrayal of Custodes and SoS, the banter between them and even the commentaries about Angron but c'mon the more you read the more nonsense it brings until you just have enough and ironically I kinda like the Drachy'en part because Chaos is a lot about meaning, moment and intention, now a daemon born from humanity's first true malevolent act having a devastating effect on humans makes sense to me

>>54271877
>fast mobile firing platforms.
Like the Manta?
Or the Orca?
Or the hammerhead.
Yeah, those fit fine. I'd be down for more hovertanks.

The giant robot that walks across the battlefield does not.

>>54271883
Anon, what I'm saying is that it is little to no chance the areas and events created by FFG themselves will ever appear again, especially with how complete the severance was.
GW can cleanly claim Calixis and most elements of it, but Port Wander, Jericho Reach, Screaming Vortex, et al will never see print in a GW product unless they want to pay FFG royalties.

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>>54271907
I'm trying man. I work 6 days a week, I'll get these tau painted when possible.

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>>54271884

>>54271899
see
>>54271545
>The Y'vahra represents a disturbing paradigm shift
Even the fluff you post points out that it doesn't fit the previous fluff.

>>54271362
reminder that you're a faggot

>>54271568
Am I the only one who thought that MoM had a pro-Imperial vibe, while still keeping to the "mysterious and unknowable" aspects of the Emperor.

Especially with the added realizations that come from the fact that he only says one word in the book with the rest of his conversations being performed psychically, and more importantly that people 'see' the Emperor as they expect him to be, hence Land marveling at how detached and cool he is, and that he's just like he imagined him to be...

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>>54271937
>their most defining units do not
'Kay.

>>54271978
>Especially with the added realizations that come from the fact that he only says one word in the book with the rest of his conversations being performed psychically
Utterly false.

>>54271978
What did he speak?

>>54271893

Taunar is mostly around because everyone needs a titan and GW wants the money involved. Hence FW giving everyone a titan to vacuum up the money of diehards
I dunno, Y'V fills a nice fast attack niche. Great for forefront of a sudden attack, not business as usual true but fits a Farsight style

>>54271921

They are not too bad.
Not overdesigned/messy/intricate but enough to work with to have some sort of complexity.
Overall, not a bad choice for the amateur hobbyist

Tau battlesuits are the coolest thing about the faction. Stop trying to make them about hover tanks.

>>54271967
Nothing says that it breaks from previous fluff. There is no fluff that says that Tau hate big suits. They were just about mobile warfare and they still that.

>>54271978
Also how ADB explicitly says in the afterword that absolutely nothing the Emperor says or does should be taken at face value.
I think MoM was going to ruffle feathers regardless of what angle he took. Maybe I'm biased because I've liked his books in the past but I didn't think it was terrible.

>>54271838
>Next time you ask for new models, ask for models that don't already exist

Please show me where I can find the "Already existing model" of a Riptide sized suit wielding for sole weapon one (1) Heavy Rail Cannon

>>54272022
T'au seem like they really need you to do magnetizing if you wanna get the most out of them.

How complex is that?

>>54271883
ADB says the policy of GW is that only "BL, GW studio, and FW" are empowered to create IP/lore.

Third parties like FFG are not empowered to create lore for the setting. So unless GW includes it in, then it's not canon.

>>54271921
Okay, I can see where your assumption comes from, but it's wrong. Death Guard with their different textures are actually easy to paint once you get the hang of shading and dry-brushing, which allows you to give them definition very easily.
Flat boring surfaces are actually harder because your screw-ups become more apparent. The coats of paint you apply have to be way smoother, the highlights have to be done painstakingly by hand and there are few to no easy outs. Compare the painting tutorials on Warhammer TV for both the Tau Ghostkeel and the new Death Guard stuff and you can see the difference quite clearly.

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>>54272024
how is it possible for one person to have such bad taste

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>>54271988
Nice scheme

>>54271988
small fast moving suits are their defining units.

Giant slow walking gun laden machines are already a defining unit in the 40k universe. Those are called Titans, and have been a major defining part of the universe since the beginning.
Giving your army giant walking gun laden machines makes them less unique in 40k, because you're copying an existing factions defining super unit.

If you really really want giant walking suits with big guns, then good for you. Those already exists and you can buy the models and play them in 40k. Go do that. They're called Titans.

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>>54272024

>>54272051

Some you don't really need to, but the standard crisis suit would neat a lot of magnetizing for WYSIWYG. If you aren't gung-ho on that, just glue on like 5 guns

>>54272025
>disturbing paradigm shift
>disturbing shift
How the fuck does this not mean 'break from previous fluff' to you?

>>54272045
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=40K+titan+model

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>>54272024
Hover tanks are cool anon, except for the chadmarine's repulsor.

>>54272069
>slow
See that's where you're wrong.

>>54272035
It more sounds like he was covering his ass from criticism, given that the Emperor is one of the few beings in the setting that could be expected to make absolute statements from a position of knowledge.

>>54272063
But he's right, the battlesuits are awesome.

>>54272035
Laurie Goulding confirms that the Emperor really doesn't give a fuck about the Primarchs which is why the final fight will change from WK version.

Also "Dark Imperium" further confirms he does not give damn about primarchs and see them only as tools.

>>54272095
>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=40K+titan+model

So you are definitely on the spectrum as none of that is even close to what's asked.

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*HEAVY BREATHING*

>>54271845
>being adeptus Titanicus but worse
>better than being gaurd but better

>>54272128
is it confirmed that the sponsons are those retarded cartoon puke-spewers from the blight drone?

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>>54272128
"HEAVY BOMBARDMENT"

>>54272095
To reiterate
The Y'Vahra isn't that much of a fluff breaker since it isn't exactly out of place for Farsight shenanigans

>>54272121
>Laurie Goulding

That guy is a good example of what happens when you put a "muh headcanon is the only canon" in charge of your IP. In interviews he always seems so happy about being able to shit all over previous lore.

>>54272152
>close range weapons on a indirect fire artillery piece

Pretty sure they are lascannons.

>>54272106
>>54272106
Stormsurge
>move 6"

ta'unar supremecy armor
>Lacking the manoeuvrability of other battlesuits
>was designed for static defense

R'varna battlesuit
>sacrifices mobility for heavier armour

What's that about the new bigger suits not being slow?

>>54271375
I just finiahed one uaing Death world forest as a base, highlight with Elysian and then highlight with ogryn camo. Looks a lot better than the ones is did with Castellan as a base.

>>54272152

>is it confirmed

Nothing about it except the name is confirmed. I wouldn't bet on it, the bloatdrones spray guns have a distinctively flat nozzle.

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>>54272144
Yes, because who in the hell plays Adeptus Titanicus?
Remember, they have to be as big and as mobile as gundams.

>>54271375
Deathworld green may work better. I have both colors and think DW green works better.

>>54272124
oh right, you want something smaller and just holding a big rail rifle like a gun

>https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Tau-Empire-XV88-Broadside-Battlesuit-2015?_requestid=29292399
there you go.

>>54272185
>I just finiahed one uaing

Are you alright anon ? It looks like you're having a stroke

>>54272179
>not a battlesuit
>designed to be stationary
>okay this one you win

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How would you boys create a larger Warboss? Warboss 'FernoMaw needs to be big and THICC

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>>54271978
This was disproven by the fact that he was horrified at this attitude towards Angron. So no, ''Emperor showing people what they want to see'' is out the window, adb probably backpeddaled with that excuse when he received criticism for his bullshit.

>>54271137
A good amount of these are photoshopped, right? Like all but the Ultramarine one?

>>54272161
okay.
Now where is the main tau forces come up with new fast moving vehicles to support their main infantry?
When did the tau last get a new tank?

Instead they got the Stormsurge, Ta'unar, R'varna.

I'd be fine with the Y'Vahra is it was contrasted as very different than the new weaponry being developed by orthodox Tau. But instead it just looks like, yet another big suit because that's all Tau do.

>>54272225
Maybe use a Lotr troll body as a base ? Those seem to have about the same proportions as Orks.

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How have the FAQs radically changed anything up? I'm getting tired of listening to my AdMech friend whine about nids and say that the Malanthrope and Stonecrusher are going to be nerfed. A no would be really welcome news.

Does it seem logical that with the Sicarian tank getting both HH and 40k rules, and the FW Open House in August, Fires of Cyraxus is coming out by the end of the year and therefore Tau and AdMech will get their codecies by then too?

>>54272225
You get a warboss then make it bigger.

>>54272209
Phone posting.. or it might be the almonds I'm smelling, not sure at this point

>>54272080
T. Butthurt eldar player

>>54272197
>Remember, they have to be as big and as mobile as gundams.
Warhound scout titan is faster than literally every tau battlesuit AND bigger.
Like I said, adeptus Titanicus but worse

>>54272222
>not a battlesuit
it's a slow moving walker.
That was my point about how this doesn't fit what makes the tau suits unique. It's an Imperial Titan.

>designed to be stationary
how does that not make it slow and just a fucking Imperial titan with imperial titan war philosophy?

>>54272225
Ironjaws Megaboss as base, then 40k it up, but do it right. Not just gluing a Big Shoota on and done. Do it RIGHT, exhaust pipes for no reason, fuckhueg KLAW, big ass Combi-Skorcha et cetera.

>>54271568
while I agree more girls and ethnic characters in spess would be neat, they picked the worst guy to do it with.
Just as I expected from Chaos filth.

>>54272293
But they aren't titans, a proper tau titan would be awesome.

>>54272299
Walker=/=battlesuit.
>titan war philosophy
What? Something needs to cover the advances of the main force from a good distance.

>>54272267
The tourney fags who didn't playtest complained about shield drones being too OP and nerfed them, forcing mortal wounds when re-allocating wounds, even though you can JUST SHOOT THE FUCKING DRONES FIRST.

Nothing else really changed besides guard not being able to spam command squads without taking commanders too.

So looking over the Chaos index is there a stronger melee character that Magnus in the game right now? Seems honestly ridiculous.

>>54272269

They might, who knows.
Dunno what FoC will have in it or if it will ever actually release.
Only new Tau thing FW has got coming out is the new tigershark, dunno what else they'll fill that book with

>>54272246

Losing sight of the point here.
I was saying the Y'v isn't that antithetical to tau as a whole. Surge and co. aren't relevant to that and neither are tanks

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So given the Suit/Titan autism has put them on my mind, has anyone who has a Titan used them in 8e yet? Seems like they gutted the old loadouts a lot unless you feel the pressing need to oneshot Baneblades with a TLD. Would Dual Inferno actually be a legit build now with D4 and 4D6 (14, statistically) autohits? Seems like it would roast most things, maybe add a Plasma Blastgun for tanks.

Also, which is best Titan Legion? Seems most of the Titans I see are Triad Ferrum Morgulus Legios, only Winters SEO has custom Titans that I've seen.

>>54272333
The Tau solution was to have powerful air support from Manta, Orca's and flyiers with anti-titan weapons like the Baracuda.

That was what made them unique, they didn't get into the titan game. When things got to Titan scale game they took a very different approach. They won by not playing the Imperials game.

If you want to play the titan game, that game exists. Just play the titan game and let the Tau actually do something unique.

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>>54272225
Take an ogre from fantasy, add some killa kan bits, perhaps parts from a dakkajet, and it can work out decently. It's what I did.

Also, Kromlech sells a really nice "Orc Chieftain" model that's extra thick, almost dreadnought sized, and rather nice and orky. Three spare heads.

>>54272343
Warlord battle titan.

>>54272333
>But they aren't titans, a proper tau titan would be awesome.
Exactly, they're shitty knock off titans that have worse weapons, are smaller and slower. Tau suck at making walkers, fucking scraps from thousands of years ago shit all over everything they have

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Requesting a drawfag to make a version of this with guilliman and cawl

>>54272384
>being guard ripoffs is unique

>>54272345
>I was saying the Y'v isn't that antithetical to tau as a whole.
make up your mind, is it Farsight going away from the Tau philosophy and a "disturbing paradigm shift" like it's own fluff says. Or is it what the Tau do?

I'd be fine with it as a weird take off the Tau ideal, done by a renegade whose taking Tau tactics and going off and doing his own thing. Especially if it's a guy like Farsight whose becoming obsessed with the power his suits grant him and forgetting the mixed philosophy that the Tau homeworld is following.

But for that to work, he has to seem like he's going off taking a new and different path from the main Tau homeworld. Instead, all the Tau seem to be doing is making bigger and slower suits.

>>54272378
They are extremely strong.
but can only remove 2 unit/turn.
Dual inferno is my new favourite loadout it can even btfo any tank in the game now.

Legio Titanicus autism is worst than DAfags autism, just do your own.

>>54271724
Lord Commissars get Bs2 and Ws2. Pask getting bs2 is ridiculous already. Guard shouldn't have bs2.

>>54272393
Well they're designed to kill titans, not actually be titans.
But yeah, please give I have money.

>>54272425
Guard go into battle alongside knights and titans.

How are Sydonian Dragoons? I love the model but I don't want to waste money on a bad unit.

>>54272334
Thanks for the rundown.

>>54272445

Antithetical to Tau as a whole in that, Farsight and his likeminded peers fall into that whole.
Who contrast with the rest of Tau doctrine.

Surges don't fit them but Y'Vahras do.

>>54272240
Yeah, all of them I think. Still pretty neat for getting an idea what various chapters look like as primaris marines.

>>54272185
>>54272200
Thanks anons, will try that first

>>54272209
Thank you too anon, I needed that laugh

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>>54272203
>he still cannot read

please tell me you aren't actually this retarded.

>>54271884
You can use him as Pask on paper but make up your own tank ace.

>>54272267
Malanthropes and Stonecrushers are in the Imperial Armour Xenos Index which hasn't been FAQ'd yet.

>>54272051
I had the same worry, but its easy once you do it a few times.

Its simple. Check the OP for the guide on magnetization but for Tau suits (I've magnetized 5 so far and dozens of weapons) just magnetize their arms and one part of their jetpack and their weapons was pretty easy with a drillbit.

Just make sure they are all magnetized the same so you can interchange their weapons.

>8th ED lore
>When the Great Rift erupted, The Tau realised that the galaxy needs now more than ever
>The Tau surged forth is great wave of expansion
>Facing down the Imperials, Orks, and Tyranids before them, they emerged victorious and conquered a big swathe of the galaxy
>Now enemies of great horrors and infinite malice have turned their hungry gaze towards the Tau

It's obviously KY-OS. Are the Tau, now with their now found strength, prepared to confront the forces of Chaos?Will the Greater Good triumph over the Primordial Annihilator.

>>54272425
>mobile army with hovering vehicles whose support comes from deepstriking specilized heavy armored units, and on the mass battle scale really on massive aircraft and fast moving anti-superheavy fliers.
that's not guard.
What suit anons want them to be
>infantry supported by big heavy things with big guns that stand still and fire lots of shots, which on a mass combat scale are supported really big walkers with even more guns and fire lots of shots.
IS imperial guard.

Not having their super heavies be giant walkers is what made them different from guard. Asking for their super heavies to be giant walkers is asking Tau to just be guard.

>>54272522
>the galaxy needs now more than ever
Don't we all?

>>54272462
Not as the standard.

>>54272537
them*

Damn phone!

>>54272522
They figure out all the bad stuff is going to happen on terra, so they cut a path of destruction, more devastating than a hive fleet, to get to the final battle.

And kill the Nameless Emperor.

>>54272489
okay, so basically we agree.
Like I've said, I'd be fine with the Y'vahras if it represented the outer edge of what Tau do in terms of suit. If it felt like something different yet still Tau.

What pisses me off it that instead it looks like the more normal version of Tau, because tau is all big suits now and at least it's still fairly mobile unlike the Stormsurge and Ta'unar.

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>>54272530
Remove hover from tank and it sounds like space marines. Oh wait they also hover now too.
>what suit anons want them to be
Actually. . . .

>>54272581

Taunar is so everyone can have a titan and FW gets your money.
Surge is just... Yeah...

We got battlesuits galore cause guess what everyone buys. Hint, not kroot

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>>54272581
>because tau is all big suits now

glad you agree that the shitty "hover tanks" phase of the T'au got retconned into glorious gundams/transformers/MegaMechs

>>54272579
>And kill the Nameless Emperor
>He revives instantly in all His glory because Perpetual
>more powerful then ever before because 10k+ years of worship and psyker treats
>''Woah, thanks guys, that was quite a pickle!''
>*obliterates their entire race*
>*leads humanity to an eternal golden age*
I like it!

>>54272500
so what you're saying is you're beings super picky and it has to be exactly the right size.

I mean sure, I guess you have the right to be that anal about how things have to be exactly the right size, and Space marines could complain that they have nothing like a predator but bigger but not a superheavy.
Or orks could complain that there isn't a bigger Deffdread that's still smaller than a Stompa.

I mean you CAN be that anal. I just don't see the appeal.

>>54271462
soo what the crap is the warp rift anyway?

>>54272624
Quick, put it in a book!

>>54272594
>Remove hover from tank and it sounds like space marines.
at the Mass combat stage Space Marines are still supported by Titans.
Storm Ravens are meant to be able to survive deploying space marines and still contribute, they aren't meant to take down Titans.

>>54272636
Slaneesh's jizz/cunt juice.

>>54272636
Eye of terror e plodded out after Cadia got crunched and forked a big line connecting all the major warp riffs and in front of tau space.

>>54272483
Can't move and shoot with Arquebuses now, so Jezzail are more attractive since you can snipe characters and run away - they're way weaker shooting but if you can't get that shot off and/or not die to infiltrate...

>>54272614
It would only be cool if they had swords and shit.
I imagine a massive Tausuit to go toe to toe with some new Bio-Titan.

>>54272647
>''Um, doesn't that defeat the point of the setting and end the stor-BANG''
>''Now, about that deluxe Emperor miniature with...''

>>54272679
>>54272680
>it took 10,000 years, but finally Slaaneshs creampie got out
Now it all makes sense.

>>54272701
They got fusion blades and power fists.

If you really want close combat tau then you go Farsight for true good guy.

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>>54272634
Its literraly you who are being assblasted.

>When does a real suit with ONE Sniper get release guys ?

>*Austistic screeching about slow titan*

>Huh well its not exac..

>*Autistic screeching about Imperial Titan being literraly the same thing as 1 sniper riptide*

>Huh I just want a riptide sized suit with a heavy rail cannon

>*Autistic screeching about overweaponized XV88*

>But thats not wh..

>HUNHUN I STFU YOU SHOULD NOT ASK FOR THINGS. WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO ME AGAIN ?

>>54272173
They don't look like they have the distinctive muzzle of lascannons.

>>54272614
>the galaxy is full of monsters
>see we made our own

>>54272614
>putting Pacific Rim in with Transformers.
I cannot find a better example to show someone not seeing the deference between an idea done well with thought in the design, and an idea done terribly.

The Pacific Rim jagers were all designed so that there movements and construction could be clear, would be easily identified by their profile and movement even in wide shots and complex action.

Transformers are overly busy and all have the same blocky profile.

>>54272680
sounds like its time to plant one of those necron pylons in my backyard then

what does the warp rift actually do besides fuck up ship movement?

>>54272701
Well, they'd be in great company.
>Tervigon with Crushing Claws hits on 5+
>Tau XV69 Battlesuit with Cyclic Ion Faggot Katana WS5+

>>54272748
It tells your puny laws of physics to go fuck themselves.

>>54271907
Wants my heart that you still have time to call Guardfag armies shit while defending them.

>>54272173
Just like not the bloat drone, right?

>>54272728
your asking for ANOTHER suit, when tau are getting way to many suits to the point that is all their army is.
Because the existing suit that carries a giant long range gun isn't big enough for you. And the bigger suits are too big.

If you really just want to see that suit exact suit, get a riptide and a hammerhead and learn to convert. Like everyone else who want to see there exact idea for a model.

Also I think I confused you with the other anons that insisted that Tau should get titans because having giant robots is Tau's thing. For that I apologize, problem of anon message board.

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>>54272378
id kill for a titan the models look great and i've always loved mechs and gundams for some reason I don't like the tau suits. but the imperiums mechs look super cool

>>54272733
They can even he single barrel autocannons for all I care, just please no gunk flamers. I don't want to have to pay 34 points for two guns my artillery tanks should never have to use

>>54272748
Brings a wave of Khorne daemons and worshippers called the Blood Crusade to murder your world and hive fleets.

How easy are Orks to paint?

I've heard that their models are old and bad for holding paint well.

>>54272802
>doesn't like tau mechs

Get out.

>>54272487
You know, I forgot the most important thing

Everything else was typo correction for the most part. Powerswords that were 0 damage became 1, weapons that had positive ap values, giving units that needed it the "Unique" rule, ect

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This is an oddly painted match

>>54272843
What on this fucking EARTH
WhY is The WoLf bLuE?.?

>>54272843
It's all just a blur of colors to me. Who's fighting who?

>>54272841
not all of it
the void shield generator got murdered

>>54272781
Oh no, I'm not calling them shit collectively. I've seen four dudes with Guard armies irl, all of them fully painted. 2 were lovingly and well painted (one of them was FW Krieg Corps, very nice) and 2 that... well, let's just say that those two armies are the reason I avoid painting faces like the plague.

But the important thing is that those were four out of four fully painted, whereas only about 1 out of 20 Tau armies at the local store is fully painted.

>>54272853
going to guess spray primer and it hasn't been painted yet.

>>54272812
>>54272778
thats kinda underwhelming desu
i wish GW talked more about this MASSIVE FUCKING WARPRIFT instead of marine marine marine primarine marine greenmarine marine spacemarine spacemarine

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>>54272840
I dont know why if its that I don't like the tau in general cause of the lore or what. I love gundams and mechs and giant robots but I cant bring myself to like them

>>54272843
It pains me that the Yiff-fag is the one who actually has the most paint on his models.
Also dat masochist Necron player who glued the gauss sticks in before painting the metal.

>>54272900
Maybe it's because they're blueberries with a vagina for a forehead and hooves for feet?

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>>54272834
stop visiting GROT propaganda websites
you can go super sloppy with the paintjob if you wish but if you want to go nuts on details that is also a possibility, truely ORK models are best, as are ORKS themselves

Are fat and thin space marines a thing?

>>54272690
So the Jezzail is better than the Taser Lance?

>>54272918
>Also dat masochist Necron player who glued the gauss sticks in before painting the metal.

Eh it's more work than adding the sticks after, but all you need to do is slap tape around the stick and you're fine.

>>54272606
and the Transformers the Expendables movies made a shit load of money, but I'll still call them shit and hate what they do some action movies and point at Dread and Pacific Rim and go "look, look how much better those are. Here is why those are so much better."

>>54272860
Oh right, it went to only help units completely within 9 or 6 inches of it, right?
Good change I'd say.

>>54272873
How do you rate ours in thread?

>>54272949
In the old Space Wolves series, there's one Space Wolf with some sort of geneseed mutation that makes him fuck hueg, more like an Astartes bear than anything else.

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>>54272934
that might be it anon. I do love me the dreadnought

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>>54272949
Not among the loyalists no.

There are however really tall and really short marines. One ultramarine sarge is described to be so large that his power armor was supplemented with terminator armor plates so that it would cover him sufficiently.

>>54272949
considering they're put through constant Training and their Armor becomes Part of their Body at some point, I dont think Fat Marines are a thing. Unless they're nurgle but thats because thats because Nurgle's curse bloats them up like a dead corpse

>>54272949
No? How would that even be possible with the level of super-futuretech-mutant-space-steroids they're jacked up on?

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>>54272980
>popularity with popcorn-scoffing amerifats and the chinese market = film quality

Yeah you don't even believe that. Stop.

>>54272964
Personally I haven't had very good experiences with the Jezzails, but that's probably because I didn't deploy them in large enough numbers. Because here's the problem with Dragoons: They are expensive as fuck and you need at least three of them to be of any use. If you get three with Lances together they can shred through a lot of things (pretty much everything except 2+ saves), if you get three with Jezzails together they can ruin a Character's day, but you need at least three of them.

>>54272972
Wouldn't the Nuln Oil leak through the tape though?

>>54272980
>some action movies and point at Dread and Pacific Rim and go "look, look how much better those are. Here is why those are so much better

Wait for Pacific Rim 2 making a billion thanks to china and half the Star Wars 7 cast so they will finally be able to say how PR2 is shit.

>>54273028
Well the american market is not only the only market that matters in film.

It's also the source of more good films, and better quality films in general than any other market.

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>>54272918
Meawhile, in the Guard corner of the board. The thick tide comes for thee

>>54272964
I haven't tried Dragoons yet, but Electro-priests and Sicarians have been great and I can't see Taser Dragoons doing their job better. Compare 5 Taser Infiltrators to 2 Dragoons and it doesn't seem even at all.

>>54272791
>Bloat Drone
>Artillery

Pick one

>>54272733
Chaos has custom muzzles for lascannons on the chaos vehicle sprue. Also, the weapon could be something else but putting a flamer on something that'll sit on the back line makes 0 sense at all.

>>54273039
depends on the tape. masking tape it probably would but not electric tape.

Not ducktape either, but that shit would be hard to get off if you used it.

2000 point dreadnought spam list:

Vanguard detachment:

Bjorn, assault cannon. 248

Murderfang. 200.

Dreadnought, assault cannon, great wolf claw and heavy flamer. 133.

Venerable dread, quad autocannon. 156.

Relic Contemptor with chainfist and DCCW, stormbolters. 225.

Deredeo with aiolos, Anvillus, twin heavy Bolter. 232.

Spearhead Detachment:

Chaplain Dread, DCCW, stormbolter, assault cannon. 183.

Leviathan with bombard and drill. 307.

Mortis with quad heavy bolter. 109.

Contemptor Mortis with dual kheres and cyclone missile launcher. 206.

Total: 1999 points, 6 command points.

I could also replace the Contemptor Mortis's equipment for 4 Lascannons for the same price.

Are there restrictions on the way you can paint models?

>>54272984
I guess decent would be the label for most of them. Sorry, but it's very hard to top a finely edge-highlighted Krieg army.

>>54273000
There's a salamander in the salamanders omnibus that's massive as well. I think, anyway, I really don't want to reopen the book to check.
KYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYME

>>54273074
Don't apologize. They're not my shitpiles

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>>54273006
Dreadnought is love.

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>I remember in the past some morons said that the Tau would be shocked to see Hiveworlds and that they don't have the resources to conquer one
>mfw when the Tau got the distinction of being the only faction in the setting that conquered a hiveworld within a single day. They weren't impressed at all with what they saw. In fact, it just confirmed their view about the Imperium being backwards They relocated most of the population to their core wolds within weeks.

Why do people continue to underestimate the Tau?

>>54273059
You guys are idiots if you think those sponson weapons are going to be anything but plaguespitters.

>but that doesn't make any sense!
>GW
>having sense

Basilisks can take a heavy flamer. Leman Russ Demolishers can take side sponson heavy flamers.

The Plagueburst Crawler will almost definitely have Plaguespitters.

>>54273058
>>54273039
Cool thanks for the advice. When I get the kit I'll see if maybe I can magnetize them.

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I played a game last night using a mostly Death Guard army and won. And we all know a single point of anecdotal evidence is enough to draw conclusions. So here's what I took away:

• Heldrakes are murder machines. I'm finally glad I converted the Arachnarok Spider into a big fly-like drone thing.
• Helbrutes are amazing even without with power scourge.
• Bloat Drones are a pain to take down and fast enough to get in to fuck things up
• Typhus is bonkers, particularly in a big ol' blob of poxwalkers
• Miasma of Pestilence is the best power.

>>54273096
"relocated" the population

nice pheromone propaganda

>>54273071
>Yiffs
>two special snowflake characters
Yeah, stopped reading by line four

>>54273096
Because no gue'vesa battlesuits.
Small mechs with swords and shields would be great.

>>54273124
>DG
>Helldrake
Pick one

>>54273126
Do you want to live in a polluted shithole with a hell version of the ghetto with mutants and monsters being and never seeing the sky?

>>54272981
It got nerfed to half range and a 5+ save instead of a 4+ which could become worse. Half range is not a huge deal given how you can bunch stuff up, but the 5+ is harsh. I can see why they did it though; changing your save as you take damage is rather fiddly.

>>54273124
>I'm finally glad I converted the Arachnarok Spider into a big fly-like drone thing.
Got a pic of that? Always up for seeing more cool conversions.

ARE TERMINATORS WORTH TAKING NOW?

>>54273134

To be fair, I'm mostly running them as Space Wolves because it lets me convert a captain dreadnought, my actual models are neither built not painted as space wolves.

Can't find anything on bases in the rulebook. Is everything measured from the model or the base? There are no longer rules for vehicles so I'm curious about vehicles with bases also.

>>54273136

If the Enclaves relics becomes more like special wargear... Then you'll have it

>>54273177
You measure from your dick to the other guy's ass.
>what if either of us are girls
You aren't.

>>54273146
>what is a Heretic Astartes army

>>54272834
>I've heard that their models are old and bad for holding paint well.
They are made from the same materials as all GW models and hold paint just as well as anything else they produce.

However, they are tricky to paint. Lots of details and a wide range of colours on every model.

>>54272981
it was way to strong for sure
at 12 inches and 4+ it basically gives a whole tile a 4+
with it's current nerf it's pretty much objectively worse than a skyshield landing pad while costing more points though

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How would you guys model fire? Greenstuff?

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>>54273165
i want it more than i want to be forcibly sterilized in a concentration camp

>>54273104
>it's another "gw is retarded" meme episode

Ok first of all you can put H.Flamers on every single IG tracked vehicle and it's an optional weapon, so it's not an argument. Second of all they don't look anything like plaguespitters anyway, look at the barrel and muzzle.

But keep being bitter, I'll enjo my new model release.

>>54273177
First page of the core rules, under "tools of war" on the left. I actually missed it at first too.

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>>54273094
my space marine dreadnought chapter will happen soon

>>54272898
It would have been great if there were a series of novels showing everything going to shit in the Dark Imperium after the Astronomicon goes black: scarcity causes the various arms of the Imperium to descend into bitter infighting, false prophets preach salvation in dark hours and bringing systems to ruin (cultists, genestealers, or just insane; pick one), stalwart Imperial governors and senior magi desperately resorting to striking deals with xenos or tech-heresy in order to survive, Navigators desperately trying to steer via the Eye of Terror, Rogue Traders daring the rift to bring priceless information across the rift.

But no, all we get to see is Guilliman angst about how father never loved him.

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>>54273271
>sterilization meme

>>54273280
>a fighting force of dead people

>>54273280
The smokelaunchers look like angry eyebrows

>>54273096
>They relocated most of the population to their core wolds within weeks.
This would basically double the population of the Tau Empire.

>>54273104
>Leman Russ Demolishers can take side sponson heavy flamers.
can, not must and that tank has a main gun option that is 24" range, which means that being countercharged and wanting a heavy flamer to overwatch that is a thing.

manticores and wyverns have the heavy flamer as a haul mounted option because they just use the chimera chassie and I'm pretty sure they just mostly copied the mold for that part, so you've got the bit.

Primaris Ancient from DI converted into Plague Marine with Icon of Despair
Yea or Nay

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What do you guys think of my planned regiment made using the /tg/ generator?

>Skalla is an inhospitable wasteland on the Imperial rim.
>Almost no life survives the Death World’s harsh desert environment often wracked by razor-sand storms, save for the tribes of humans and orks which inhabit the ruins of the ancient Imperial forges dotting the planet’s landscape.
>The planets’ Governor has taken advantage of this situation, and the soldiers recruited and trained here are especially adept at killing Orks using shock and awe tactics.
>Sorry I'm barely literate let alone a writefag

Also, based on the planet being called Skalla, what should I call the regiment? I've seriously drawn a blank

((Pic related is a colour scheme similar to the one I have planned))

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>>54273071
nossin personal, Gue'la

>>54273221
The skyshield is harder to get, only the truly WAAC of WAAC fags have one for their tourney list. Until it has widespread use, we probably won't see a nerf.

>>54273344
The Skalla Grims

>>54273209
>inb4 nooo, mixing Legions is WAAC

>>54273277
Oh yeah thanks. Only wondering as I've based my predator on a 130x130 base. I imagine people wouldn't allow the rule to apply to rhinos disembarking so I probably shouldn't go there with my techmarine and repairing. Arguably your opponents gain from being able to charge as well.

>>54273026
Long time without food?

>>54273299
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Story:The_Shape_Of_The_Nightmare_To_Come_50k
Just in case.

>>54273280
I'm currently just sitting with a Contemptor and a Venerable Dreadnought, but a Leviathan is on it's way, and I'm just ordering an Ironclad Dreadnought from the LGS. And next month I want to get a Contemptor from Forgeworld, that sweet resin posability over the plastic one is worth it.

>>54273345

>Look ma, I can minmax!

Okay.

>>54273353
how is it harder to get ?
you can still buy it of their website
the main diffrence is that it's kinda hard to pass of an armored column being on top of a landing pad

>>54271562
>that face

Just because she not obese doesn't mean she's not fat faggot

>>54273252
>Buy Burning Chariot
>cut off appropriately sized tongue of flame
>glue onto whatever needs to be on fire

>>54273344
Skallan Sand Farmers

>>54273175

>Counts as

*vomits copiously*

>>54273345
How are you going to get those Flamers in range?
How are you going to not go bankrupt buying up all those Flamers?
How are you going to handle Terminators?

2/10, got me to reply

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Omegonfag here. Attached are someone's primaris alpha legion.

Should I file down the chest eagles like he did?

I decided to go with the alpha omega shoulder pad symbol instead of the hydra.

Just curious on anons opinion. :)

>>54273429
>buying up all those Flamers
anyone who plays tau is going to have at least 1 per suit they have.

You can get flamers on ebay for like 50 cents each anyway.

>>54273356
Huh, I hadn't even realised that I'd unconsciously chosen the same name as Skalla-Grímr. I quite like the name though.

>>54273409
I also dig this name a lot

I'm still open to suggestions anons ;) ;)

>>54273344
Skallan Stormtroops

>>54273272
Yeah, enjoy your 8" range Assault D6 autohit "lascannon" sponsons.

>>54273429
I think the standard method with tau is to put any gun whatsoever on the model and assume your opponent won't know the difference.

Anyone else hate purity seals?

fuck those things. They break up the aesthetics of most astartes models .

they're a pain in the ass to paint

their color usually clashes with the color of the armor

they're a retarded concept.

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>>54273435
This is from Iron Sleet, using older helmet patterns seems to work wonders

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>>54273402
what do i do with the grinning Manta Rays?!

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>>54273321
of cripples actually

>>54273331
he is upset you have sinned in the eyes of the emperor

>>54273383
im getting some contemptors for my 30k Emperors children. but plan on making a 40k chapter with mostly Castraferrum Pattern Dreadnoughts cant settle on a theme though

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>>54273466
Fuck off.

>>54273394
You may not have paid attention to it, but over the years it has been mostly a direct only purchase, or rarely in GW stores. Frequently out of stock and with ambiguous rules.

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>>54273472
source on that sauce boss

>>54273460
>any gun whatsoever on the model and assume your opponent won't know the difference

This is my plan, but I'd have what they represent clearly selected on my list/build

>>54273469
What chapter is this? I really like the primaris helmet.

So, Reivers:
Dubious fluff aside, with these fuckers lacking Infiltrate or anything like it, what exactly is their job? Disruption is all nice and good in theory, but if I need to hoof it across the table or shell out for a heavy combat transport I might as well take shit like Hellblasters or Inceptors on the primaris side, or Scouts if going for mixed forces, right?

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>>54273466
i think it's nice
adds a bit of colour to most schemes

>>54273344
Hounds of Skalla/Skallahounds

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>>54273435
>Should I file down the chest eagles like he did?
Are they fluffed as loyal or not? If they're loyal, might as well keep the aquilae.

I personally love the idea of Traitor Legion Primaris successors and with Alpha Legion one can argue they never turned traitor to begin with, so that's even better. Can't wait to see yours all painted up.

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>>54273480
>>54273480
Prison School, genuinely hilarious

>>54273396
Shes not even that m,8. at best shes homely

>>54272843
>And here you see ancient statues of the mystical "marinelets", at least somebody carved this name into their helmets.
>Some rouge traders still insist that these crouching creatures are ancient forefahters of the glorious chadmarines but the Ordo Biologis assured us that this is just heretical proapganda spawned by the similarly tiny Chaos legionarys to compesate ther physical shortcomming.

>>54273458
I will :)

>>54273344
Skallese desert dogs.

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>>54273486
Derp, forgot the rules.