"Orkz iz da biggest and da strongest!" Edition &g

>>54219962
Ya put da subjik in da name field, ya git!

Encourage thread diversity and remember to ignore Guardfags

>>54219932#
>posts Farsight holding the Dawnblade while trying to argue that he's a good guy
evil through ignorance is still evil Anon

>>54219934
I was thinking more of one guy from a TED talk with a headset that did something similar, but yeah. It would be important to not make him a "pssh nothin personnel" sniper, but someone with a real disability that he needs to learn how to work around.

I wonder how Lady Malys is doing these days.

>>54219932
>it's a ''tau faggots shit on based Raven Guard'' episode
Based Corvus returning and obliterating that vermin species when?

>>54220020
Yeah. It could work though.

Next up, crippled battlesuit pilot.

>>54220045
Wait, how has that not been done already? That seems so easy. Also isn't that the premise behind dreadnoughts? Would make a lot of sense for the settings.

>>54220044
>emo
>based

>>54220019
Isn't the dawn blade just some trippy necron sword? I mean, yeah Necrons sre bad, but using one of their weapons isn't evil.

>>54220081
Part of me wants them to update his model to make the blade more "Eldar-y" because stealing lifespans sounds like the shit Eldar would do, not Crons.

conscripts are a fucking meme.

>>54220081
The Farsight novel says that the sword contains an evil intelligence.

Tau firewarrior are best equal to a Conscript.

Why are Tau so shit?

>>54220045
>crippled battlesuit pilot.
So Bravestorm?

>>54220081
Ctan or old ones

>>54220078
>Dreadnoughts
Sort of. Dreadnought pilots are less placed into the Dreadnought Casket and more poured into it. To be a dreadnkught you have to have been so fucked up that even cybernetics cant help.

>>54220081
Siphoning the souls of your enemies to extend your own life is kinda evil, anon.

I mean I know that Tau are generally immune to warp predation, but...

>>54220080
>t.Lorgar
Don't you have some Chaos dick to suck or something?

>>54220109
>Sword contains an evil intelligence
>Was found in a temple that had the star of Chaos in the middle which opened a portal to the Eye of Terror
>the whole are was surrounded by faceless statues that carried amulets with anti-Chaos amulets.

Hmm...

>>54220147
>Siphoning the souls of your enemies to extend your own life is kinda evil, anon.
>it's okay when Alliance doing it

>>54220147
Lifespan =/= souls

It's said that if Farsight knew the truth of the sword extending his life, then he would suicide himself.

>>54220183
>harikiris
>his life gets syphoned back into him

>Imperials gladly allying with manipulative slaves of Warp God instead of allying with race who still fights for ideas of Great Crusade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqIeWGrk_Tw

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>>54220004
This is a Guard thread now!

>>54220167
>Sword contains an evil intelligence

it has never been implied to talk or do... anything sentient yet

>>54220167
Seems legit.

>>54220233
One doesn't have a fishface and may be able to pump out your kids.

>>54220241
>Well painted stock photos /=/ our shitty Guardfags

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>>54220241
>This is a Guard thread now!

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How should I base my new DG force?

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what wargear do i give my hellforged contemptor in a 1k point list

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>>54220406

>basing your model after you've painted it

>>54220406
Green flock.

>>54220553

WintersSEO does it. I recommend his tutorial vidoe, in fact.

>>54220799

I only ever see Warhammer players with this habit of basing after the miniature has been painted. It just makes more sense to do it on assembly, or at least do it with the model separated from the base first.

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New Death Guard tank. I like it

When will people learn how to fucking make threads on this god awful board?

>>54220861
Where's the leak from? We all knew it was coming but I'm more interested in DG Terminators.

>>54220836

If you want a clean effect, sure. But if you want a muddy effect, that requires a finished model.

>>54220861
I dig it. The back-mounted mortar makes me wonder if I can turn some into HH Ordo Reductor artillery, it looks like a decent shape if it's not TOO nurgley.

>Inquisition henchmen squads weren't nerfed enough when we released the index
>Lets nerf them some more!

Why does GW hate inquisition so much?

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>>54220895
Some spanish site. Can't read a word of it but good pics. Here's some artwork

>>54220925
Something something not Marines.

>>54220931
Spanish site... So next months White Dwarf? It isn't in this months.

>>54220931
Grav cannons?

>>54220931
>>54220861
dang that thing looks sweet, kinda feel bad for 1k sons players, they only got a few new things, DG are gonna get shit load of stuff

>>54220925
There's no such thing as a 3w regular guy for under 50pts

>says the Commissar with a knowing smile.

>>54220931
I can read it for you and report back to the thread if you give me the site.

>>54221136
t. GW wanting to SHUT IT DOWN

DON'T DO IT!

>>54221148
Shit the goyim knows

So we know some codices will come with models. Aside from marines we know that tau is getting some sort of release. Dunno when, but it'll probably be with the codex

>>54221359
Source on the tau release being that leaker from the other site with a good track record

Are we ever gonna get any more chaos beatsmen? Maybe Nurgle beastmen to go along side DG?

>>54221148
GW would be smart enough to reverse-google search I think

>>54221359
GK will get nothing. Screencap this post.

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>>54221406

>>54221394
>beastmen

wrong thread.

Reposting from other thread:

Tau 2000pt Bridage

HQ: 370pt
2x Commander (4x Fusion Blaster)
Ethereal on Hover Drone

Troop: 258pt
4x FW pulse rifle strike team (5 guys, ui has ML)
2x FW carbine strike team (5 guys, ui has ML)

Elite: 548pts
Firesight Marksman
Crisis suit team (3x Flamers each)
Riptide (DC, ATS, HBC, SMS)

Fast Attack: 188pt
Pathfinder Team (10 man, one ion rifle, pulse accelerator drone)
3x Tactical Drones (4x Gun Drone each)

Heavy Support: 636pts
Sniper Drones (3 of them)
Hammerhead (Railgun, SMS, 1x seeker missile)
2x Broadside (HRR, SMS, EWO)


Suggestions? Trying to make a well-rounded 2,000pt list. This uses nearly all my Tau, plus an extra 10 FW and sniper drones I haven't got yet. Also, do the flame crisis and fusion commanders make this a meme list? I just wanted to include some suits.

I am a little confused on the new necrons reanimation.

So, as long as a unit is still on the board. You can roll for lost models every turn?

That seems, kind of amazing.

>>54221462
Try reverse googling the other image, I found it that way, also the file name is Plagueburst Crawler, which is a pretty good thing to start looking for.

>>54221541
Yes, and it's fantastic. Don't forget the Cryptek to increase that to a 4+ and Ghost Ark to get a bonus roll each turn. This heavily encourages max size warrior blobs, since they keep standing back up as long as one survives. The above combo gets you an acreage of 75% Reanimation per turn for the buffed squad.

>>54221476
Tzaangors are Beastmen tho.

>>54221576
Well that sounds fun as fuck

>>54221541
Well it has some limits.

Doesn't affect ones lost by morale. Can't do it while surrounded by monsters.

You need to set it up to be coherent with existing models, not old ones. This cucks you in some situations where you can't just keep adding to one model.

Incidentally morale does become a very good way to deal with 20 man warrior blobs, so Necrons are wise to save their command points on them. But a wiser enemy still will split fire between two units of 20 and try to get them down both at the same time. Still though, necrons have a high base leadership so this isn't a very easy thing to do, usually requires your full shooting at two different units to get most out of it.

>>54220081
wasnt it supposed to be some Ctan shit?

theres a difference between crons and Ctan
dont fuck with C'tan shit, cause it fucks with you back

>>54220406
whatever ground, but the places where his footsteps are should be teeming with nasty nurgly life, like hes corrupting the ground around him

100 Power list for Throne in September. Help me git gud.

BATTALION #1
HQ
Tank Commander with Punisher Cannon, Lascannon and Multi-Melta Sponsons
Company Commander with Power Sword

ELITES
Command Squad with Regimental Standard, Medi-kit, and Vox-Caster
2x Commissar with Power Sword
Techpriest Enginseer

TROOPS
3x Infantry Squad with Plasma Gun and Vox-Caster

HEAVY SUPPORT
2 Basilisks with Heavy Flamers
2 Leman Russ Battle Tanks with Battle Cannons, Lascannons and Heavy Bolter Sponsons

BATTALION #2
2x Company Commander with Power Sword
Primaris Psyker

ELITES
2x Command Squad with Lascannon, Medi-Kit and Vox-Caster

TROOPS
3x Infantry Squad with Plasma Gun

HEAVY SUPPORT
2x Heavy Weapons Squad with Lascannons

Not maxed out on upgrades, I know, but I'm keeping it WYSIWYG. Or do I go and buy a load of HWTs so I can max out in the Infantry Squads? I'm not a huge fan of Power, first time using it.

>>54220861
>inb4 heavy d6 shots

>>54220931
dunno if its just a shitty quality image, but that artwork looks like some oldschool shit, very naice

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>>54221548

>>54221579
No they're not. They're basically specifically mutated cultists.

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>>54221738
those insta ptsd image suggestions rofl

based google

>>54221759
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tzaangor

>>54221855
>it is unknown if they originate from Beastmen transplanted to the planet like ordinary humans, or whether they are a result of the mutations so favoured by the planet's patron.
>UNKNOWN
>UNKNOWN
>UNKNOWN

>>54221875
Not him, but they're still beastmen either way.

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>>54221970
>Not him

>>54221970
What? That's literally wrong. The link provided does not support this.

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>>54221979
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
Dumb frogposter
>>54221996
Yes it fucking does, it outright says they're "beastmen"
What you posted only says nobody's sure who they go there

>>54222052
>Sub-type

I guess Tigers are actually lions! Beastmen are a very specific thing, lad. Literally in the back of the BRB. Tzaangor are not Beastmen. They might be humans turned that way or Beastmen turned that way (again, it says literally in the quote that nobody knows)

>>54220406
dead grass colours

>>54222088
>Tzaangors are a subtype of Beastmen; those dedicated to the Chaos God Tzeentch.
>Tzaangors are a subtype of beastmen
>Tzaangors are beastmen
What your saying is that because a tiger is a subtype of feline, it isn't a feline.

>>54222139
Beastmen are a specific thing that's why the term 'sub-type' was added. Read. The. Damn. Books.

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Oi! 4e Orkfag from a few days ago who didn't know about the 5e's Assault on Black Reach/Battle for Vedros starter set.

... As it turns out, I actually do have all the boyz (and Deffkoptas) from that starter set. If memory serves, I got them from a gent and his 10-12 year old son because the two of them were in my local GW store looking to sell 'em at the time.

I just never got around to painting these boyz until recently (plus I was a lad with barely any cash to my name at that point).

Any suggestions on what colors I should paint my Black Reach/Battle for Vedros boyz? (I run a freeboota warband, so I don't really have any real 'theme' for the army. Just whatever I feel like doing at the moment).

>>54221115
>tfw Word Bearers player

>>54222264
do them as those blue skin Orkz, forget the clan name (Snakebites?)

>>54222264
Flash Gitz ya git!

>>54222417
>blue skin Orkz
You mean Deathskulls/Deffskullz?
Yeah, I could do that.

Funnily enough, I actually bought some GW shades of base/layer blue recently since all my old paints dried up while I wasn't active in 40k.
Go figure.

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>>54222264
uhh so why dont you just do "whatever you feel like at the moment"?

>>54220406
flowers
lots of small beautiful flowers

>>54222616
The gardners of nurgle.
I love it.

>>54220931
>4221148
I can translate too.

Hablo y leo español perfectamente dado que soy de allí

>>54220094
>Part of me wants them to update his model to make the blade more "Eldar-y" because stealing lifespans sounds like the shit Eldar would do, not Crons.
But that's wrong, you git. The whole reason the galaxy is fucked is because the Necrontyr wanted longer lifespans.

>>54222264
colors dun matter
learn to sculpt pirate heads
make a greenstuff pirate head for every ork
much work but totally worth it.

>>54222184
>gors
>not beastmen

You're not worth responding to.

anyone have a link to the 3rd ed ork codex? Doesn't look like the mega folders have it

>>54222662
Fucking what? This isn't WHFB/AoS. It's 40k. Beastmen are a specific thing and are mentioned in the BRB's. They were Imperial designations. They fight in the Imperial Guard as cannon fodder. They do their shit by dying. They're not default Chaos. Therefore Tzangors are not 'Beastmen', they are at best a sub-type, because they follow Chaos.

>>54220861
I hope it's usable by everyone in some form. That thing just looks too fucking cool to be Nurgle-only.

>>54222658
Ah, ok. I'm not too much of a buff on Necron lore. I thought they were just pissed that they lived in eternal suffering on radiation-scarred worlds.

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Alright I just got my shit pushed in with my guard by an Ork player. He had 120 Boys on the table and I had no way of dealing with them, even with a Tank Commander Punisher, Mortars, and Taurox Prime.

My List is attached. He got off two 12inch charges on turn 1 thanks to Da Jump which neutered my Hellhound and Plasma Russ. What did I do wrong?

inb4 Spam conscripts, I only own about 60 Basic Guard Infantry models with lasguns.

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My first little guy. First time painting anything.

Black Templars Primaris (I know) Intercessor.

Holy shit, highlighting just made it look worse. I need practice.

Any criticisms beyond the obvious?

>>54222782
>My first little guy. First time painting anything.
thats fantastic for a first time painting desu
too embarrassed to post anything from my first couple of years on /tg/

>>54222782
paint the base and he'll look solid

>>54222782
Hold your brush at an angle while highlighting and try to just scrape the side of the brush along the edge of what you're highlighting. Comes out a lot crisper that way.

>>54222769
try to bring some psykers.
astropth is cheap primaris aint much more expensive

a) they can try to deny the weirdboy
b) they have a lovely power which gives everymodel in 2d6 line a mortal wound on a 4+. useful for blobs.

>My List is attached. He got off two 12inch charges on turn 1 thanks to Da Jump which neutered my Hellhound and Plasma Russ.
Not completely sure what Da Jump does, but usually you can only attempt to cast a power other then smite ONCE per turn. see rules for matched play.
If you dont play matched play, you do it wrong

What's the deal with that Gabriel Angelos model FW teased? Is it an event exclusive, or gonna see a general release? With a head conversion, it'd look cool as hell.

>>54222827
Da Jump lets you basically teleport 9inch away from other units. Also I'm sorry I was wrong it was once charge but he ended up locking 2 tanks up on turn 1 so I had to fall back.

>>54222782
This: >>54222816
Also when you're highlighting, thin the paint down a bit more than you usually would, it helps the paint flow on to the edges in neater, tighter lines

>>54222855
i think its "in the release pipeline" so there will be a general release sometime. they showed lots of stuff not yet on sale and i cant remember them previewing special releases like that.

>>54222769
>What did I do wrong?
Orkfag here.
Did you move toward or away from the tsunami of greenskins after they pulled off Da Jump, or were you stuck on the edge of the board?

Because it sounds like you might not have done anything wrong, the Ork player just got some really lucky rolls.

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>Vanquisher Canon looks great, that FW turret looks awesome.
>Vanquisher Canon is shit.

Why ?

>>54222936
We ended up with Vanguard deployment and it was in my right corner of the board. I had nowhere to go but backward up a 10inch Cliffside.

He killed my 10man infantry squad infront of my tanks then just charged them.

>>54222769
id trim a lot of things that you probably take for fluff reasons like the multiple commisars or the regimental standart command squad

get some screening unit
try heavy flamer sentinels

i actually find it hard to believe that this is an 1850 list, I guess this is why people spam memescripts

Anyone find any updates on Reiver stats?

>>54222944
play it as a battle cannon, <yourdudes> pattern

>>54222944
It's awesome when it hits. Put it on commanders with a source of rerolls.

>>54222990
Is that a new flying things? I never pay attention to them so I don't know

>>54221616
>Doesn't affect ones lost by morale.

>Necrons
>Caring about morale

Leadership 10 is a bitch to get through.

>>54222959
>I had nowhere to go but backward up a 10inch Cliffside.
>He killed my 10man infantry squad infront of my tanks then just charged them.
Let me guess? Full mob charged the tanks?

Literally cornered by an army of 120 boyz is a real uphill battle to win (especially given the number of attacks each boy gets nowadays).

>>54223091
It was just a squad of 30 that charged the tanks but between all of his boys and his Morkanaut I had some hard choices when I actually got to shoot.

He actually apologized to me after the game(He's my best friend and I've known him since preschool) as it was his first time playing Orks in 8th and he didn't realize how strong mass mobs where.

>>54223130
>Completely green Ork Players apologize for taking fluffy lists
wtf I love 8th edition

>>54222964
>try heavy flamer sentinels
HF Sentinels are trash man they kill 2 boyz a turn, and he has 50 guardsmen as a screen already.

120 boys is meme shit, don't ask how to beat it with a normal list, especially when that list is almost entirely random anti armor crap. An Ork player puts 900 points of infantry spam on the table then 900 points of Taurox will kill 80 boyz a turn.

Big G is going to be 0-4 against his brothers whenever they get around to having him fight Morty. Lost against Lorgar and Angron back in the Heresy, got styled on by Fulgrim later on, and now eventually going to lose to Morty.

I'm interested in starting a Tau army but I don't really know how I'd build them out since my only exposure to them is from DoW. What are the good/fun units? Should I just buy a SC box and go from there?

>>54222816
>>54222865

thx.

What do people use for a good black edge highlight? I'm using Fenrisian grey

>>54223130
>Orks in 8th and he didn't realize how strong mass mobs where.
>new Ork player takes a fluffy list and curbstomps his opponent
>apologized because he didn't know how effective the tactic was
In fairness, it wasn't this effective until 8th came around because greenskins were always hobbled by i2 whenever it came to close combat

He also had a Morkanaut? While I haven't seen one in person yet, my recommendation is: next time prioritize killing boyz. Just 1 full-strength mob (hell, any bunch of 20+ boyz) will have way more attacks than a Morkanaut, making them the greater threat on the tabletop.

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Manlets confirmed squatted lmao

Is anyone here actually going to spend £20 for a 6-man squad of Reivers?

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Reminder that Cawl is using traitor geneseed and will bring back the missing legions which is how GW will introduce femarines.

>>54219962
>That picture

Does anyone actually take WoW lore seriously? I mean everything about it automatically seems shit to me as a default just because it was a blatant ripoff of Warhammer to begin with.

>>54223405
This is one meme I don't get. We know this. Not only was it stated in the BRB but in Dark Imperium. Nobody fucking cares.

>>54223494
The shit I don't get about it is it implied that Cawl managed to cure the Red Thirst and Wulfen problems.

Would this work?
https://pastebin.com/3e5R9a8H

You get the gist of it
(PS: I love plasma)

>>54223409
I'm picking up First Strike and splitting the cost so I get three Reivers and three Intercessors (I want the one with an Auspex because Intercessor brick soon) then buying a box of three Reivers for a squad of six. £22.50
Grabbing Know no Fear too for shits and giggles.

>Space Marine Primaris Heroes
£45
2 models

>Triumvirate of the Primarch
£55
2 models and 1 big model

>Start Collecting! Space Marines
£50
11 models and 1 big model

What fuck is wrong with this hacks?!

>>54223507
It's either noble bright shit or the next time they advance the plot they'll up the grimdark to 11 and give the Bangel and SWolves Primarines even worse mutations.

I think it could be cool if Bangels get some mutated monsters eg Corax's failures when they get their codex.

>>54223593
New here? Geedubs has always priced on unit strength, not quality of the product.

>>54223593
Targeting those with the most expendable income.

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>>54223593
I remember that a decade ago, you could buy a box of 20 Guardsmen for 25€.
Today, the box of 10 Guardsmen is sold for 23€.

>>54223593
Speaking of:

I want a Hellbrute but don't care for CSM squad or Terminator lord.

Best to buy the Hellbrute alone or try and sell on/trade the CSM and Lord?

noise marines in rhino worth it?

>>54223630
I still have those boxes as a cruel reminder of better days

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£50 BATTLEFORCES > £50 GET STARTED BOX
FACT
FACT
FACT

>>54223649
No they aren't very good, but they look really cool.

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Are Necrons the biggest threat in the galaxy?

Ciaphas Cain seems to think so.

>>54223620
>£50 for 10 girls
Sisters of Battle must be broken as fuck then.

>>54223630
In 2000 a box of Tactical Marines cost £15. £15 in 2017 money is £24. A current box of Tactical Marines is £25. You're going to say the extra options and shit isn't worth the extra £1?

>>54222769

Is that an army list or a walmart receipt?

>>54223623
12 years old do not have money.

>>54223668
i dont care how good noise marines are, was asking if rhino is worth taking for protect them a turn

>>54223593
Mantic is literally the only one cheaper than GW. Maybe Perry Bros too. But most 28mm heroic scale sci fi shit is more expensive. Puppets war? More expensive. Maxmini? More expensive. Pig Iron? More expensive. Corvus Belli? More expensive. Privateer Press? More expensive. FFG? More expensive.

Protip. Don't start a HOBBY if you don't want to spend money.

>>54223649
no, noise marines don't need to be within rapid fire range and they can advance and shoot anyway

>>54223681
the income of the vast majority of people has not kept up with inflation

>>54223665
Welp, I'm triggered.

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>>54223668
>S8 blastmasters
>no cover bonus
>48"
>can now take 2
yeah there's no inst-gib any more, but what makes them bad?

>>54223687
Why not both? It preformed about as well as a something purchased from Walmart.

>le GW is expensive meme
>I demand over 30 factions, specialist games, paints and tools and everything else for the price of an internet only company that has 3 factions with 10 models each!!!!!!!

This is the one shitpost that never dies. Time to leave.

>>54220861
I'll take three please.
And three of those big chaos beasts in the pic of Mortarion fighting Bobby Gee.
And three sets of the new termies
And 2 boxes plague marines
And typhus. And morty.

So I ordered a Belial almost 2 weeks ago, and it has yet been delivered to my local GW, at least I haven't got a mail saying it's been delivered.

Does it ever happen that it delivers without a mail or should I just wait?

>>54223706
Not questioning the price itself I'm questioning the randomness of said prices.

Bloody old as fuck Chaos terminator lord has options for weapons. For what? £15? The new primaris have no options for £22.

The box that cost almost the same as the 2 has more than double of the model count, let alone options.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40K-painted-Dark-Eldar-Mandrakes-/371790535349?hash=item5690715ab5%3Ag%3A5msAAOSwa-dWmbvU&_trkparms=pageci%253A03d7148a-6439-11e7-a00e-74dbd1809aaf%257Cparentrq%253A24a1cccb15d0ac8034e0ce8affebd6ab%257Ciid%253A9

I want some mandrakes real bad and these have been on eBay forever. Are they hidden poorly painted Chinese re-casts?

>>54223723
Fuck, I could watch Putin for hours.

Reiver rules leaked yet?

>>54223770
Why are you considering them if you think they;re poorly painted?

>>54220925
It does suck. It's literally "Choose 1 of these 3 named inquisitors, or be terrible."

I field stormtroopers anyway, so no biggy.

>>54223802
Dying for them myself. I hope they are killing machines. I'm feeling -1 to enemy hits thanks to the terror masks. AP1 Heavy Bolt Pistol sounds like. 3 Attacks each would be good, for the squad size. No ideas for the stun grenades.

>>54220406
What store are you playing in anon? the scenery/background look familiar.

>>54223327
personally I'd say do one highlight along most of the edges with Eshin Grey, then do a final sharper highlight on only the most prominent edges, using a lighter shade of grey, such as Fenrisian

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good hellbrute loadouts ?

So is Death Guard getting a new monster unit?

>>54223837
That was Tottenham Court Road.

Its not my local store but they are well staffed and I go there on Mondays/Tuesdays or for lessons since my local GW has small hours and doesn't open monday/tuesday.

>>54223814
No that paint job looks fine but I'm scared that's just a stock image because it's has a double listing with the same pictures from China.

>>54223865
Lahndahn wankah

>>54223285
....HOW.
The rule book states Morty retreats back from the battlefield under the cover of a virus bomb.
Bobby Gee wins.
It's in the rulebook. You do have the rulebook right anon?

>>54223882
fite me irl

Outside tesco

2pm

>>54222751
They had super short, shitty lives and made up for it by being smarter than everyone before or after.

>>54223665
How much is that in freedoms?

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>>54223303

>>54223723
You're paying more for the squad and the weapon for something that isn't better than a lascannon.

>>54223855
Twin Lascannon + Power Scourge
Hellbrute Fist w/ Heavy Flamer + Power Scourge -
Twin Lascannon + Missile Launcher
Multi-melta + Helbrute fist w/ Heavy Flamer

That's probably how I'll run mine.

>>54223856
Looks like a new monster unit and a shiny new tank!

>>54223898
>defending Papa Smurf
stop that

>>54223915
I recon that Twin Heavy Bolter/Twin Lascannon and Power Scourge/Fist with Combi Bolter is best.

Heavy flamer is too expensive and the other ranged weapons are too inefficient. Full melee doesn't let you take advantage of the crazed rule, although that is quite unreliable, still.

>>54220081
No, it's Chaos.

>>54223303
Start forge world account.
Get 3 xv9's, 1 commander, and then buy 6 drones somewhere.
There you go, vanguard detachment.

>>54223925
> spouting off shit that anyone who has read the rulebook knows is bullshit
Stop that.
And I PLAY DG you faggot

>>54223620
thats why the gorkanaut and the stompa cost the same, right?

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Sup /tg/ I am doing a khorne demons army but making conversions to represent other gods in the crunch (such as bloodletters with hell-talons as daemonettes) and am at a loss for what to do about nurglings.
Has anyone done anything simular or have any suggestions for how to do something like that? Any help would be appreciated.

>>54223910
65-ish

>>54223923
And termies.
And a new plague marine box
And Mortarion. Possibly Typhus

>>54223958
Do floating bloodletter heads.

>>54223958
A tide of biting, living skulls in a flow of blood-wave

>>54223856
>>54223923
>>54223973
Did I miss something?

>>54223968
A box of fire warriors is $50, they stick one of them in and another thing and they're golden.

As cool as a new Mortarion fig is I'm still hyped for Perturabo

>>54224011
>Perturabo
Fuck him. I miss Ferrus Manus

>>54223855
Cheap: Autocannon + scourge
All murder all the time: Fist + scourge

Just about everything else is terrible.

8e ITC Format
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bUs0HrJ3f6YzR6mWlT1LRLq0i9_0ekf7ah9WhCTxsIo/edit

Thoughts?

Relic is still garbage and mixed feelings about the new going first mechanic

>>54223665
It wasn't just the basic models you got, it was how much conversion/kitbash potential you got from the multiple sprues in the box. If you even vaguely knew your shit it was possible to put together almost any HQ from those boxes.

>>54223982
Fuck yeah like doom style!

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>Tank Commander with Punisher Gatling and 3 Heavy Bolters costs 211 pts
>Pask with the same loadout costs 221 pts

>>54224024
i see alot of ppl do fist scourge and flamer but currently i cant fit flamer in my list, u think its worth taking a full melee one even without the Hflamer?

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>ASSAULT cannon
>HEAVY weapon

>>54224072
>Typhus is better in everyway to LOC.
> 20 points cheaper.

>>54224077
Absolutely, the flamer is the questionable choice.

>>54224077
Yes, You will still punch the shit out of things.

>>54224072
>Canoness is cheaper than a Canoness

>>54224088
>can have multiple LoC

Quick question about rules. It says about Overwatch fire that it only hits on 6+, ignoring all modifiers.
Is the rule that says flamers always hit such a modifier ? Are flamers firing in overwatch always hitting, or hitting on 6s only ?

>>54224072
>>54224072
>Exalted Sorcerer 127 pts
>Ahriman 131

>>54223665
battleforces haven't been £50 for more than 5 years

>>54224112
>Canoness is cheaper than Canoness Vyridian
Oh wait Vyridian is not in the rules.

>>54224136
AAAAAAAAAAAALWAYS (hitting)
I WANNA BURN WITH YOU
INCINERATE WITH YOU
AND LIVE IN ASHES, ASHES, OH LOVE

>>54224162
Farsight or Lorgar novels, which should I buy?

>>54223665
>>54224162
also start collecting boxes aren't £50

>>54224120
That doesn't seem like much of an advantage, all things considered.

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>>54224136
take a guess cause
>its a RAI ruleset
this monkey game a best

>>54224120
Doesn't mean they should cost more. You literal spud.

>>54224162
And it fucking sucks.

>>54224180
They are.

What's the go-to space marine HQ choice these days?
The core of my army is scouts and Stormhawks. I kind of like Lias Issodon this edition, but he doesn't synergize well with what I want to do, so I'm a bit lost.

>>54223670

Not anymore

>>54224242
Guiliman

>>54224310
>toiletbowl marines
I play a good chapter.

do walkers get -1 to hit with heavy weapons form moving? seems like strange oversight and makes forgefiends pretty shitty

>>54224337
I saw a dude with a blood ravens g-unit. Fuck marines. Join chaos.

>>54224105
>>54224098
ok great. thanks guys

>>54224350
Welcome to the deletion of unit types.

>>54224242
Librarian,
maybe Captain for rerolls, Captain + Primaris Lieutenant can also work
Techmarine/Chappy only for specialised builds

>>54224011
When did that get leaked?

>>54224011
I just want to know what he looks like as a Daemon Prince. I can't seem to find any pics of him.

There is one pic that I thought was him in his daemon form but then someone told me that wasn't the case.

Just started playing and picked up the Tau and I can't decide on a color scheme. Not a fan of extreme colors but I want a unique scheme. Any suggestions?

>>54224072
He's way too cheap for what he offers. 10 points more for all his bonuses are stupid good. He should be like 30 points more instead of 10.

>>54223495
Warcraft lore was actually pretty decent and moved pretty far away from WHFB lore until the more recent WoW expansions (Cata onward), where the new lore team of mostly new hires had to make their own story instead of riding the coattails of the older WC games' lore. Shit's basically comic book lore now with all the alternate universe jumping in the last two expansions alone.

>>54224378
Not leaked necessarily but we'll have Magnus and Mortarion by then. I don't see why Perturabo won't be next, especially as he'll be a cool model considering how fucked up he is from the Obliterator virus.

>>54224242
chapter masters and captains for their reroll aura can fit into pretty much any list

chaplains are basically budget chapter masters, and are probably not worth it these days unless your points are very tight

librarian powers focus very strongly on close combat, and make a good companion to a captain/master/chappy

techmarines are fine if you have stuff to repair like dreads and predators. the conversion beamer is better than the servo harness

primaris lts are a good budget option that also offer a good aura, but their lack of mobility heavily limits what sort of lists can use them. space wolves benefit a lot from wolf guard battle leaders having the same aura with all the standard marine options

>>54224355

Problem with joining chaos is that they are a jobber faction sweetie

You lose the huge roster of Imperial auxillaries for some shitty daemons and cultists

>>54224395
Purple and Black, like the Date

>>54224431
>Implying pert will be before the other aligned primarchs (Fulgrim and Angron)
You're an idiot

>>54224431
Fulgrim should honestly be next. Emperor's Children needs some fucking love already.

This is coming from a huge IW fan as well.

>>54224456
this

>>54224431
>after two relevant legions devoted to gods, logically a literally who follows instead of the other two relevant legions

>>54224395
Blue and white.

>>54224440
Yeah but you are one of the feq factions that can legitimately complain.

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>>54224395

I'm a yuge fan of White as a base

Especially on Firewarriors, look like little Stormtroopers

Mortarion will go first
Then Angron because of the Bloodstorm campaign
Then Fulgrim, who might tie into an Aeldari storyline
Then it'll be about the right time to bring back another "Loyalist" primarch

>>54224412
That was the point of my post. He's so cheap it would be really stupid not to take him instead of a regular Tank Commander. At this rate I'm wondering why Pask is still a character and not just an upgrade, like "Ace Tank Commander", seeing that every Guard player has him in his army.

Can we hope for plastic Sisters ?

>>54224462
>>54224520
They no bring primarch they kill sadface

>>54224520
They'll probably alternate them since we started this whole mess with Magnus and then Bobby G, so once Mortarion's revealed we'll most likely get another loyalist. My money's on either the Lion or Dorn.

What do guard have that are good against Tau suit spam? Got fucked earlier due to one eating all of a Pask Punisher/Guard squad shots multiple turns.

>>54224520
So, Alpharius?

>>54224535
And catgirls and female primarus

>>54224535
We can only wish

>>54224549
Conscript spam

>>54224549

This calls for details

>>54224520
> one traitor
> then one loyalist
> then 3 fucking traitors in a row before another loyalist
Sounds great. Oh wait, no thats dumb as fuck. One for one.

>>54224564
Not even goid normie doods better math it out really big unit die leader

>>54224561
Literally go play infinity.

Anyone have any thoughts on what GW planns to do for SM chapters whos primarchs are dead? (bangels, iron hands, night lords etc) are we just meant to suck it up and use sub standard HQ choices or will we get primarch level characters to use?

>>54223665
Man this makes me so sad to know how cheap this shit used to be/still is in the UK. I literally can't get any friends to play cause the price turns them off so fucking fast. they all laugh in my face at how much I spend on so few minis.... Dark imperium is $210 aud here in aus and $120 in the UK at Wayland games... fuck gw embargo.

>>54224605
Bring them back like big poppa

>>54224605
Suck it up buttercup.

Does anyone know of battle report of Guilliman in use? Or a good tactics article?

Trying to see how people go about moving him in an optimal way in a game.

>>54224136
flamers always hit on overwatch
>source: official 40K playtesters over at frontline gaming

>>54224587
English plz

>>54224621
Remember that crawling in my crawl the bell man can make second legion legionares so no doubt he remake emps and smite all of chaos so GW doesnt haveto pretend they want them any more.

>>54224605
isn't a part of Manus still knocking about, I guess GeeDubs could bring him back but yeah suck it up over Corvax and Sanguinus cause them niggas dead

>>54224605
Bangels will probably get a chapter master possesed by their primarchs vampire ghost. He'll sprout wings and have a red thirst aura, the whole 9 yards

>>54224648
He wants attention and speaks like an idiot in threads

>>54224374
wanna add that the jumppack librarian is the best config. that's because he can way more easily set himself up properly for smite. i run him with combi-melta too.

>>54224646
No, there is nothing saying Flamers get more range or something when overwatching

>>54224648
Normies > conripts

Anyone play any games today? I played a game in our escalation league. We're up to 750 points. I was Guard and he was Genestealer Cult.

I brought Pask in LRBT with iconic loadout, Harker, a Commander, Vets kitted to the teeth with 3 specials, heavy flamer, plasma pistol and heavy bolter in a Chimera, 30 Conscripts, Commissar, an infantry squad and an Armored Sentinel.

He had a Broodlord, some Genestealers, a Rockgrinder truck, 3 neophyte squads I think and a Chimera.

He got some bad rolls on his cult ambush so it I pretty much deleted his Genestealers and Broodlord by turn 2 which really took away a lot of his damage. It ended up being pretty one sided in my favor unfortunately. Highlights were us both struggling to get first blood with about 4 different units being down to 1-3 guys. Killing his Rockgrinder truck was pretty good because it blew up and did enough damage to kill my Sentinel, his Chimera and a few of my Conscripts. Sadly the Chimera and Sentinel didn't blow up again.

>>54224521
>>54224072
I feel a little bad taking him like every game that I take a Russ, but it's just so worth the consistency. I've taken normal Russes a couple of times and all they end up being are expensive fire magnets that do next to no damage. Tank Commanders are decent, but he's just too good to pass up. Every time I think "I'll just use a Tank Commander instead" I hesitate and think "But for 10 points more why would I not bother to upgrade?" Then when the game starts everyone groans "Of course he's Pask." I like your suggestion of Ace Tank Commander though.

>>54224620
I got DI for £76 from Goblin Games + Free next day deliver...

>>54224669
I havr fat dums and phone no auotcorect.

>>54224685
Fucking spell you mongoloid. Form sentences. Punctuate.

>>54224693
GoblinGaming*

Other thread died.

rk big trakk with super skorcha looks strong. Everything else in fw orks looks meh. Grot tanks maybe but random move and 1 in 6 of do nothing sounds bad.

Any other impressions?

>>54224684
Always hit *when in range* on overwatch

I guess it was assumed that you actually use the gun to automatically hit with it.

>>54224684

What in ever living fook does range have to do with hitting during OW

>>54224136
>>54224203
>>54224646

Pretty fucking obvious that flamers always hit on overwatch since flamers always hits. But go ahead and debate an opponent to a standstill for 30 minutes about how there is no printed RAW text which says this. In fact, debate this every time someone tries to use an 'always hits' weapon or attack on you until they concede the match.

>>54224708
8 pts of guard = shootin of 9pts of cpnripts + conropts die to leadet

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>mfw a 50 men unit of Conscripts can fire up to 200 shots at 12" if given the order.

>>54224724

>make a 9" charge
>get hit by a 8" range weapon

nope that doesn't happen in my games

>>54224657
if belief and emotions are real things in the warp then belief and worship of the emperor could of turned him into a god of order in the warp. And since Sanguinius is basically worshipped as a saint and has his own day its possible to believe that because of this worship hes gotten powerful enough in the warp so that his soul can manifest thru people similar to the way demons can posses people.

Im not saying thats a good direction to go in but GW wouldn't have to completely recon and break rules to bring him back, they could just have the Sanguinor possessed by the spirit of Sanguinius the same way demons possess people for chaos.

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>>54220895
Found on BoLS

>>54220861

>pledged to the Chaos god of living shit
>somehow still able to build and maintain their own line of war machines

>>54224708
Good sir I wish to inform you that the comrade you are conducting a conversation with wants to inform you that 8 points of guard puts out the same shooting capabilities of 9 points of conscripts. This coupled with the fact that conscript tend to fare worse to the ill death of leadership has led him to believe that conscripts aren't as good as guard. This free translation has been brought to you by anon, the anonymous translator.

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>>54224800

Its 40k niggah we aint gotta explain shit

>>54224813
Well then he's a retard because commissars and commanders exist and make all of that bunk

>>54224549
Not much to say.

Enemy had a suit (believe it was a broadside) that ate 40 shots from pask punisher and 80 shots from Guardsman.

Will the new deathguard stuff come out before the global campaign?

>>54224894

Proly not, but you don't need it if you're playing Death Mechanicus army.

>>54224892
>wasting lasrounds on suits that aren't stealth

>>54224242
I like captain with a thunderhammer or jetpack just as a beatstick. Almost always gets 2 or 3 damage 3 hits on a vehicle.

>>54224932
He also had stealth suits that took 3 rounds to take out.

Maulerfiends are the cutest

>>54224564
Had 60 of 'em. They did jack shit.

>>54223327
I personally highlight with a really dark blue, myself. It brings a bit more pop to the model than a grey would. I use Mordian blue but I don't think they stick that anymore.

>>54224972
My Molly is best girl

She likes the way lightning claws scratch her belly as she crashes over Imperials

>>54222616
Thats how I did mine and I was happier with it than I thought I would be

What's a decent site to get stuff painted to a decent level that won't break the bank? Just got spurned on a really shitty commission and need the model fixed.

>>54222769

Your problem is that your IG is geared towards killing Tanks and Marine equivalents instead of killing Mobz.

Nid hordes and Orkz are going to push your shit in every fucking game.

You don't need to do conscript spam and technically conscript spam is going to struggle vs Ork Green Tide lists but you need to have the flexibility to deal with big units which means you need more shit like Heavy Bolters and less Lascannons, etc.

>>54224768
Mah dick.... need like 3

>>54225038
define break the bank?

Cause like most things in life you get what you pay for

If someone does it free or for $1/model; take a guess at the quality

>>54225005

Lasguns vs an XV88 may as well not even roll the die.

If you know he's gonna go suit heavy you need to go S and AP heavy on the guns

>>54225055
Not sure. 60-70USD max I think.

>>54225095
$60 for 10 guys? That should get you 'tabletop+' with most places

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>>54223665
You can actually see the gradual crappification/cheapification of the contents...

Tyranid Battleforce v1:
1 Carnifex
3 tyranid warriors
8 Genestealers
8 hormagaunts
8 termagants

v2:
3 tyranid warriors
8 genestealers
16 hormagaunts
16 termagants

IG Battleforce:
1 Leman Russ
3 Sentinels
20 Catachans

IG Cadian Battleforce:
1 Leman Russ
3 heavy weapons teams
20 Cadians

IG Catachan Battleforce:
2 Sentinels
3 heavy weapons teams
25 Catachans

IG Cadian/Catachan Battleforce v2:
1 Sentinel
3 heavy weapons teams
20 Catachans/Cadians
5 Catachan/Cadian command squad

Start Collecting Tyranids
1 hive tyrant
3 tyranid warriors
10 gargoyles

Start Collecting Astra Militarum
1 Leman Russ
10 Cadians
1 heavy weapons team
1 commissar

>>54224646
>official 40K playtesters over at frontline gaming

Goddamn how it is possible to fail at playtesting so badly over the many months they had these rules and still miss so many basic things, let alone typos?
Goes to show you these tourney fags don't read the rules, even when playtesting.

>>54225102
One guy. Model. Singular.

Need the best quality for the price, because the last person absolutely kind of ruined the model.

>>54225135
What's the model man.

You're being extreme vague here

>>54224712
Squiggoth also looks like it's decent due to the insane Howdah Rule.
Chinork seems decent, but probably a bit overcosted for what is in essence just the ability to deepstrike nobs.

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>>54225146
This model, but with a 1000x shitter paintjob.

>>54225158
Post it.

>>54225168
Can't at the moment. Why?

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>>54225158
I got this done for 70+shipping and such.

The pictures really don't do him justice, I was extremely anxious after seeing them but once I opened him I was stunned

Also >>54225168

Honestly new Unaligned CSMs and Terminators and a new expensive Abaddon sculpt should be the next priority for CSMs after the DG get finished out.

It allows them to refresh most of the unaligned chapters at the same time.

They could easily do a cash grab with Angron since overall the Khorne faction isn't in too bad of shape with models but Fulgrim and the Emperor's Children need a complete overhaul.

>>54225193
The CSM Termi kit is great though
The marines though, hahaHA

>>54225016
Pics?

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>>54224078
>RAPID-FIRE battle cannon
>HEAVY 2d6

>>54224549
Tank commanders that are battle cannon, lascannon and plasma cannons. Either get Pask and order them or make.them Catachan and use Harker so you can overcharge.

Plasma vets or deep striking Scions with plasma. Infantry squads with heavy bolter and plasma.

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>>54224180

>>54224494
I like a white base but it's so hard to get a crisp, clear white that doesn't have shades of black or grey or whatever behind it or that doesn't get dirty with age. Woes.

I'm in a fight RIGHT NOW, can I consolidate into another unit after I wipe out an enemy unit in melee? Consolidate seems a bit vague to me.

>>54225272
You're in a fight and are able to post on your phone about a trivial question?

Not much of a fight anon

>>54225272
You can only consolidate 3 inches towards the nearest enemy, so if 3 inches takes you into base contact with another enemy, you are now locked in combat, but warned, they get to fight then, and you already fought. So you can consolidate into something that could kill you if you're not careful.

>>54225272
Yes.

The enemy will get to smack you though

>>54224549
Idunno... Conscripts and Infantry Squads?

Also Manticores... any unit in the codex that isn't a leman russ or a chimera is pretty amazong.

Make sure you take officers and commissars of course. Officers can make your 50 man conscript squad run 13-18 inches in one turn.

>>54225295
>>54225310
That's fine, the guardsmen didn't even tickle my nobz

>>54225231
>Heavy dscythe
Assault D3

>>54225186
Where at?

>>54225340
>Chosen
No one chooses them over Havocs

>tsons
Magnus
Ahriman
Exalted
Rubes
Occult terms
Tzangs

So two named dudes, termy elite, troops choice, fodder, and hq? (exalted)

>dg
Morty
lord of contagion
plague sorcerer(x2 types)
Pmarines
dg termy
plague drone
plague tank
Pox
typhus maybe

clearly more stuff, lel tsons got the short end, bet the last legion faction has enough crap to fill a closet

>>54225312
They can actually go up to 24 inches if you roll 2 sixes. The problem with that order is that you're so far past your Commissar and Commanders that you can die to battleshock pretty easily. It's better used on infantry squads for objectives imo.

>>54225039
So what, use more HWT with heavy bolters, use HB on russes?

>>54225362
>Grey Hunters
they do not hunt greys

>>54225369
Khorne will have 10+ unique units in addition to Angron
>>54225360
Elrik's Painting

>>54225362
>Conscripts
>you pay for them

>>54225377
HWTs should have mortars, but yes.

>>54225398
>Angron
>Kharn
>Khorn
>Khurn
>Khern
>Khirn
>Khyrn

>>54225312
Russes are good if you do tank commanders and Pask.

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>>54225398
>Khorne will have 10+ unique units in addition to Angron
and it will be glorious

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yey.

>>54225376
You can order your officers too right? The idea is to have a few officers there using the conscripts as meatshields.

>>54225425
Idunno they look too expensive points wise to me.. maybe it's just because all of the infantry are so cheap and the manticores are so good.

so running my craftworld eldar as Ynnari now, at least some times.
Figuring out how to soulburst is going to be a thing, but in general how much should I favor small units to burst off of vs bigger units to get big soulbursts?

>>54225424

>Lord of the Skulls: An entirely expected bloodbath

>>54225495
Well you can't order Commissars which is the biggest problem for Conscripts being so far away from home. Not sure about Officers ordering officers, you probably can do that I'm just not sure about it.

I forgot, I'm dumb. You can daisy chain your guys if you have enough of them.

>>54225150
I'd probably play him. Use him as an assassin to deal good damage to enemy minor characters and keep the Deny the Witch rolls rolling. His weapon isn't bad IMO, just need to target non-single wound models to get the most of D2

>>54225521
rule just says infantry unit from the same regiments.
Officers have the infantry and regiment keywords.

Not sure why you'd order them besides really needing to run one up for orders.