EDH/Commander General

>>54188715
>Please Give This Guy A Home, Wizards
Oloro?

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>>54188715
>Thread Question

>Playing Gonti
>To the right of me is a mono blue player with Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
>Kind of a faggot irl but nothing too autistic about him
>"Cool now I'm gonna be the first to get my shit countered", I thought
>Opening Hand: Emrakul, Promised End
>Keeps countering almost everything I play
>Shit ton of mana. Caged Sun. Pact of Negation
>Pact of Negation
>Pact
>Of
>Negation
>Play Emrakul, steal his turn, make him lose.
>He just sits there dumbfounded because he didnt really think Pact would kill him like that.
That's what you get for countering my stuff 7 times in a row, Chris.

>>54188715
>playing Marduchesa Aristocrats against mono-black, new Rakdos and Grenzo
>Grenzo player starts flipping big creatures off the bottom of the library
>black player making Zombie tokens, has P. Obliterate on board so nobody swings at him
>Rakdos player tries to Emrakul me, mass sac in response, he takes my turn and does nothing
>he's mad asf even when I told him it wouldn't be worth it
>black player suddenly slaps a huge Zombie buffer on the board
>kills Grezno player after that guy kills Rakdos player
>he turns to me
>goes down to 16 life paying for more tokens so he can swing in past my 1/1s from Assemble the Legion
>he turns 21 tokens sideways
>I've had Rakdos Charm in hand the whole game waiting for him to kill the others and then hose him
>Rakdos player is STILL mad, shake hands with the rest and leave

>>54188715
Reaver's home is literally every U/W deck.

>>54188715
>Thread Question:
>Tell me a story where everything went just as keikaku.
Why did you create a new thread so fast?

>>54188557
>I don't read the stories
You're missing out on a lot by just looking at cards. The Aetherborn are sensates and hedonists, who, when we hear about them, tend to be incredibly wealthy, since they have no qualms about risk given their short life span. They throw massive parties and enjoy the emotions of others through empathic senses. They're portrayed as criminal on the cards because Kaladesh is incredibly authoritarian and almost everyone but Baral is a criminal. Sorry that this was a bit rambly, but you should really read the stories.

>>54188949

>costs 7
>does nothing on its own the turn you play it
>LITERALLY EVERY UW DECK :^)

Kill yourself

>>54189096
>costs 7
>laughing_arbiter_girls.jpg

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>>54189158

>Wow I ran another card to make it cost less
>It must be good now

Are you a real life retard or do you just pretend on 4chan?

>>54189204
When the other card is a commander, it makes it a legit choice for that commander.

The anon that said it belongs in every blue-white deck is a moron, though.

>>54189007
>baral not a criminal
No YOU read the stories anon, Baral gets arrested at the end.

>>54189331
>drogskol in Augustman
How often do you get 5 mana floating in Augustman?

>>54189489
>not using GAAIV exclusively to cast big bombs on a discount
Fuck off ya Spike.

>>54189489
Depends how you build him. Classic GAAIV Stax? pretty rarely. The raw card draw is great if you DO get it out but your curve can only support a couple cards at that price point. GAAIV also makes a decent Prison/Taxing control commander, though, and he'll make the 5ish for Drogskol trivially there and laugh all the way to the bank.

>>54188715
>Tell me a story where everything went just as keikaku.
>8 people table because Animar wanted to play with Planechase and Vanguard.
>$2 bids, winner takes all, dropping costs $10 because we're dumb like that
>Know Animar's Vanguard is Akroma, mine is Ashnod and I'm playing Thraximundar. Others didn't matter much (Gix-Kaalia, Takara-Karador, Crovax-Zombies, Squee-Keranos, Titania-Elfball, Barrin-Laquatus Mill)
>Mull to 5 just to have turn 1 Engineered Plague and name Elemental
>Personal victory accomplished
>But it didn't end there, I wasn't the only one with such ideas and by turn 6 there were 3 Night of Soul's Betrayal, 2 Engineered Plagues (Elemental and Elf), one Copy Enchantment of EP (Zombie), a Curse of Death's Hold on Animar, Aether Flash and Torpor Orb on the table.
>Any attempt to destroy any of this was countered
>Planes didn't do shit, we stayed in Astral Arena for 12 turns.
>After 6 hours of play I won because another player hit Animar with Sadistic Sacrament for his eldrazi titans and I was the only other player that ran anti-mill tech.
Animar never wanted to play with more than four players, planes or vanguard again.

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how do you guys store your extra decks? a fat pack isn't going to be good enough after damaging a sleeve. i have pic related from a couple years ago but they seem to be in short supply these days.

>>54189981
In separate Satin Towers, I'm not one to put all my eggs in one basket.

>>54188868
N I C E

How do i make Boros dank?

>>54190400
Sunforger
That's it. It immediately makes all cards it fetches dank too, though.

>>54190400
Store in a warm dark area. Congratulations, your Boros cards are now dank, as they should be. Throw them out.

>>54188715
>Playing Silas Renn/Sidar Kondo
>Down to last opponent
>Tariel has been wearing down peoples decks with Keening Stone all game
>Finally mills me out
>Passes turn
>I activate the Academy Ruins i grabbed with an Expedition Map on turn 2 and haven't used yet that everyone's forgotten about.
>Mindslaver to the top
>Activate it
>Keening Stone him with his own stone and put Mindslaver back on top
>He's already lost but tells me to play it out.
>Use his Debtors Knell to get back my Skullwinder. Choose to add Bojuka Bog to his hand and Praetors Council to mine.
>Mill him out over the next few turns with his Keening stone
>Praetors Council myself at some point in my turn
>Hit him with his own Bojuka Bog after the last mill
>End game with my deck in hand and his in exile

>>54190400
Land tutors in white

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>>54189981
>how do you guys store your extra decks?
Stanley 10 Removable Bin Compartment Deep Professional Organizer

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/for-the-horde-of-notions-2/

So I posted this before and took a lot of the feedback I got to heart. From a purely casual standpoint, how does this look now? (The high curve suits my meta, pls no bully.)

>>54188715
>Thread Question:
>Tell me a story where everything went just as keikaku.
Lol okay.
>Start a 5 player game
>Open 3 lands, I can work with this
>Don't draw a single land at all after that
>Not even fucking ramp
>Can't play shit
>On turn 5 someone drops Terastodon
>Kills my lands
>Fuck yeah tokens
>Bro at the table has my back
>Doesn't let anyone fuck with me
>Slaps his Mimeoplasm shaped dick on the table if anyone even fucking tries
>Dinosaurcock.jpg
>Counters and fogs anything that comes my way and retaliates ruthlessly
>Straight kills a mother fucker for trying to swing game on me
>I am just sitting there admiring this beautiful bastard all game
>Game comes down to just me and him
>His field is a veritable fortress
>Mine is fucking pathetic
>He intentionally drops a wrath effect just to level the playing field
>Makes everyone else sit there like jack asses while he and I play essentially a whole new game
>Comes down to the wire
>In the end, he wins but not until after we have a legit Mexican stand off
God speed that beautiful bastard.

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How much care do you put into your basics? These are my go to since they look great with old-border commanders and for how unique they are, but I'm also partial to finding basics that have flavorful art in relation to the deck. I have a Bladewing the Risen deck that uses foil 7th edition basics that have little dragons flying around in the art, and I love it.

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>>54190656
My basics all have sunsets on them. I'm romantic as SHIT.

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>>54190683
More then I really should.

>>54190487
Can you link me to that model? It looks perfect.

>>54190683
All my decks are themed except for my lands deck which used to be. I also really like the snow lands so I have a few commander decks with snow basics.

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>>54190683
Theyre something I can customize without worrying too much about optimization so I like to match them to the commander. For example my Karlov has this plains (though googling to find this image made me see one I like a little better) and rtr swamp 260. It makes it more visually interesting too to have matching lands but different in all my decks.

>>54190795
>all those walds
Fucking nice, I'm jealous.

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>>54189981
i use this B)

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Hey there /edh/ do you guys have any spicy tech for Esper enchantments?

I've built an enchantment tribal kind of deck and I like running with all kinds of janky combos. Right now it is kind in a bad state.

So far, I have finishers with Opalesence/Starfield of Nyx and Parrallax Wave to combo ETB effects with my enchantments or some of the few creatures I have. I can win with constellation effects or many other things.

Additionally with Starfield/Opalesence, Enduring Renewal and Parallax Tide I can make infinite mana and have infinite casts to storm with Brainfreeze. I can also generate infinite storm with Blood Funnel and guile and counter and cast my own spell as much as I like.

I am running Ertai, the Corrupted as my commander, mainly for the colors and since he has at least some interaction with enchantments. Did not want to play Zur due to the reputation and the hate he gets and I wanted to make my deck more about janky combos and interactions rather than hard control and lockdown with enchantments. Initially I just wanted to build a flicker deck, but with enchantments instead of creatures. It's doable, but hard.

I haven't gotten to play the deck yet, but it seems like it will be kinda slow. I've never played an enchantment deck before, is there any obvious stuff I should be including? I have Academy Rector and Enlightened Tutor, working on Idyllic. Any advice on enchantments or oddball card recommendations I have missed I would appreciate.

>>54190856
That's a sweet plains. If you haven't seen it http://basiclandart.tumblr.com/ is a really useful resource for basics art. Once I decide that I like a deck enough to invest in nice basics for it I usually just browse through here to find ones that match.

>>54190893
Pretty sweet

>>54190893
What's stored in the lower right compartment?

>>54190961
Looks like a box of dragon shields.

>>54190961
dragon shield sleeve spares in case of damage

>>54190683
I try to put some thought and theme into my basics, particularly for mono or dual colored decks where basics will be more prominent.

Often I try to use only basics from my commander's set and try to stick to the same art if I can, I haven't gone as far as to all foil basics of the same kind because that can get awfully expensive fast and I lack certain staples (like many shocklands or any fetches) that I should really buy first if I am going to drop a decent chunk of money.

I really like stuff from Time Spiral, for example, and my last few commanders have been from that set. For Dralnu I used all Time Spiral islands and swamps of the same art (they are gorgeous) and I did the same thing for islands, mountains, and forests for my Intet deck. All time spiral basics of the same art, though I went for brighter, less "evil" looking ones than for Dralnu.

On the other hand, for my Mangara deck I used all old bordered plains from Dominaria focused sets. Magara is old and weird things happened in Time Spiral, I imagined him reflecting the plain how it used to be rather than how it was presented in Time Spiral block. I should not I don;t really know that much of M:tG lore and I'm not -that- interested in it, but I love working in theme and flavor to my decks when I can.

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>>54191035
>Time Spiral lands
Good taste

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>>54190955
Actually didnt know about it, thanks a lot. I saw this one and decided I like it a little better for Karlov maybe.
>>54191035
I actually use a Time Spiral island for Teferi, though its the printing that came in the deck cause border. Its the one that matches OG Teferi's background

>>54190816
Just copy and paste

Stanley 10 Removable Bin Compartment Deep Professional Organizer

into google, its like $20

>>54190683
I havent put much effort into it because my favorite basics are hard to get NM and I'd want at least 30 of each.
>Plains Euro Land Blue: UK
>Island Euro Land Red: Italy
>Swamp Euro Land Blue: Belgium
>Mountain Euro Land Red: Spain
>Forest Euro Land Blue: Germany

I'd wish they'd reprint beautiful art like these, GURUs and Portal in sealed product. Instead they keep using Zendikar turd lands and the worst Alara and Theros arts again and again and again.

>>54190912
>Combo ETB effects
Add Parallax Tide for infinite mana and permanently exiling your opponents' lands

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>>54190683
I like the basics from the old archenemy decks. This one was first printed in portal second age I think.

What are the best basic lands from newer sets? I just use Amonkhet Full-Arts for now.

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>>54188715
>Tell me a story where everything went just as keikaku.

>Playing against a deck with a lot of counter magic
>Play Demonic Tutor and look at counterspell player to see if he has a response
>"Why would I counter your tutor? I'll just counter whatever you search."
>Search Cavern of Souls

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>>54191492
I like this Kaladesh one

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>>54190683
Lorwyn swamps all the way.

>>54191517
I also have a lot of Khans block cards.

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>>54190683
It doesn't get better than the Lorwyn block

>>54191581
you just blew my mind

>>54191581
i like those and ursa block the best. well really only ursa islands

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>>54188027
>there's something wrong with a little woodland fun

>>54191492
kaladesh is pretty sweet and i really like shadows

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>>54190683
>>54190795
I feel your pain.

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>>54191492
Kaladesh has a couple that stand out, and there are a few I like from Shadows, but I feel like overall they've really dropped the ball since somewhere around Theros.

>>54191699
I like that Kaladesh one too. In general, mtg art has gotten worse and worse but occasionally an artist makes something good or great with the cgi tools.

>>54190683
I'm of the mindset that whatever land I put into my edh decks must be unique for art. I don't ever play doubles of a single basic in a deck unless its a different language. Other than that I choose whatever looks the best to me at the time. As I find new basics I rotate things out. I just like having different art to look at on each card. White border, old border, new border, full art, and alters are all fair game. In fact I am working on painting all of the lands for one of my decks at the moment.

>>54191649
>>54191699
Unfortunately, I didn't get to open much of Kaladesh.

>>54191492
Rebecca Guay's set from C16

>>54192025
Didn't get to open any of those.

>>54191818
>mtg art has gotten worse and worse
ya it definitely has, really sucks too cause thats one of the things that got me into magic

>>54190640
So did you fuck afterwards, or what?

>>54192116
>open
They're from the 2016 preconstructed commander decks.

>>54191492
The fullart amonkhet plains and forests are beautiful, hour of devastations full-arts look quite nice too.

>>54192186
Exactly, didn't get to open up any of the decks.

>>54191506
what's the pic from

>>54190683
Probably more than I should. I like the land to fit with the commander.

>>54192173
Anon he's married! She doesn't deserve him.

>>54192271
http://koyorin.deviantart.com/art/Amanda-O-Neill-580723636

filename, nigga

Just getting into EDH, built a couple decks so far. Sliver tribal, and Animar Morph. Spent about 200 on the sliver one, about 80 on the Animar one. Am I doing it right?

>>54192568
both of those decks will get you hated off the table, the amount of money spent isnt really important

>>54192568
People will hate you for playing slivers, but yes, you seem to be doing fine.

>>54192634
Animar Morph will? Is it the commander itself, or the deck? I figured Animar abuse for massive/free creatures like Eldrazi was more of the dreaded deck

>>54192568
if you're having fun you're doing it right

>>54192692
the commander itself will get you hated out

>>54192754
Well shit. Lets just hope someone else uses a big threat like Angel/demon/dragon bitch

Give me a good Sunforger package.

>>54192692
It really depends on your playgroup anon. One of the few benefits of having a fairly competitive players is you can stop worrying about being hated or mean, because everyone is. The same applies to being focused. If you are playing in casual "why did you kill my dragon" enviroment however, Animar may not be the best choice.

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The commander
The deck
The musical

>>54191818
To be fair some old art is absolutely terrible, tho I agree that cards like gaees cradle are phenomenal.

But karn liberated vs karn silver golem . Liberated is much better.

What are some cards you feel have trash art from recent sets? I'm just getting into magic so I don't know most of them

>>54192985
Common consensus is that Samut, Voice of Dissent is the worst thing since sliced AIDS.

>>54188950
Thread hits bump limit and I start a new one. What's wrong with that?

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>>54192985
Scars of mirrodin/mirrodin besieged/new phyrexia had some great art.

>>54193026
That's the black chick that gives everyone haste right? She's Boros?

Yea she looks like shit. Bit gonti lord of luxury looks awesome

Is Voltron Khemba the best option for monowhite? I wanted to do some kind of token anthem list, and Avacyn is too dang expensive. What are some interesting generals?

>>54190640
>>54192384
admit your feelings to him and steal him away.
then go fuck.

>>54193063
She's Gruul casting cost and Naya identity because she has a white mana symbol in her ability.

>>54193084
Sram for giving you card advantage even when you're above parity, something white is bad at doing.

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>>54192985
For the most part the newer art is bad in that it's homogeneous and boring, rather than being funny bad like some of the old stuff. Occasionally we get some really awful early-2000's PC game looking shit though.

>>54192821
Azorius Charm
Boros Charm
Counterflux
Deflecting Palm
Dispatch
Faith's Reward
Hindering Light
Jeskai Charm
Master Warcraft
Reiterate
Render Silent
Return to Dust
Steam Augury
Swerve
Swords to Plowshares
Temur Battle Rage
Unexpectedly Absent
Wear
Wild Ricochet

>>54193127
IMO there's more good art but there isn't as much amazing art as there was in the old days.

>>54193127
>Occasionally we get some really awful early-2000's PC game looking shit though.
Like every card the Foglios ever did.

>>54192778
are you playing at an LGS or in a play group at a kitchen table?

>>54193187
Group of friends

>>54193026
This card is ugly in every possible way, the art, the design, even the placement of text is weird. It looks like a first card made in editor by a 10 year old.

This triggers my autism so much.

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>>54193152
I don't think the Foglio art is bad in the same way I think the blatantly CG art is bad but I'd agree that it's out of place on a magic card and looks more like something out of an old comic strip. Anarchy is fucking cool though.

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>>54193026
>someone thought this was ok

>>54193207
ah you will probably be fine then, slivers will still make them hate you after about 3 games though

>>54193285
Basically everything about Samut is terrible except her quality as a commander, which is viable, but nothing special.

>>54193319
Ayo hol up
Is you sayin'
WE
WUZ
VIABLE COMMANDERS N' SHIET?
I'm so sorry, someone had to do it though

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Can anyone recommend me a deck that isn't trying to goldfish an infinite combo and can play the value/"fair" game, at least at semi-competitive tables? Something other than Meren plz

>>54193319
she isnt even really that great of a commands, just a bunch of keyword soup horse shit like atraxa

>>54193358
Bruna, Light of Alabaster. Don't go infinite, just cheat out an Eldrazi Conscription.

>>54193365
Atraxa is still easily the most pushed commander out of that set
I WONDER IF IT COULD POSSIBLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER COLORS

>>54193358

>semi-competitive

Just pick anything and play control/midrange. If you only run good cards, you can compete at high levels.

>>54193365
Like I said, she's not bad, just not great either. If you really want a strong Naya commander, Marath, Uril, and Mayael outclass her in degrees of magnitude. I guess if you build T: effects tribal, it's decent though.

>>54193319
Isn't she playable in standard or something? Looks decent enough (only) powerlevel-wise.

I wish scarab god was out already.

>>54193469
locust god is better imo

>>54190640
>>He intentionally drops a wrath effect just to level the playing field
>>Makes everyone else sit there like jack asses while he and I play essentially a whole new game
>>Comes down to the wire
>>In the end, he wins but not until after we have a legit Mexican stand off
Literally the worst part of playing edh with chuckleheads

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I'm thinking of making an Unesh, Criosphinx Sovereign "choices matter" deck, where I play cards that make my opponents make hard decisions.

The deck fact or fictions like a motherfucker but I'm looking into other options as well.

I have Expropriate, Rhystic Study and the Will of the Council cards along with the appropriate "Guess what I have" Sphinxes, anyone know of any other blue cards that ask questions of the opponent or provide choices for them?

>>54193526
I will play Dimir commanders till I die

>>54193468

She's not. The reason for that is giving all your shit haste is pretty pointless if it all costs less mana than her. You can't afford to save your 1-4 drops until after you cast her for that value, so that text is basically blank.

Her untap ability was designed to work with exert but it's not affordable and outclassed by a simple always watching and other untap effects

She's a solid beater with double strike and vigilance but there's no lack of that in standard, again outclassed. At 5 mana people are casting planeswalkers and such.

Hey guys, I'm wondering what some of the best cycles are to buy first for my vault of EDH cards.

On my list right now are the primordials, the spirit dragons and the remaining praetors.

I'm looking for other fun cool cycles to buy up and have around, preferably ones that are on the cheaper side.

>>54193682
>all of my decks are mill

>>54193705
Reanimation is my fave kind of deck, stealing from other peoples' decks is always a great sub theme.

>>54193682
>>54193526
>>54193469

Scarab God is clearly the most powerful though

Locust God is interesting, and going to be a lot of fun to play. But the scarab God is much stronger I think. That activated ability is insanely strong, strong enough that you don't need to be zombie tribal for the deck to be good. But if you DO go zombie tribal, you can kill the table so quickly with that first ability.

What are some fun combos I can pull with Voltaic Key?

>>54193759
I'm pretty sure Locust God is the stronger of the two. It works well with wheels, something UR decks are already doing, and it provides a mana dump for infinite mana that wins you the game.

>>54193959
>Island, Seat of the Synod, Key
>tap seat for U, activate key with island, untap seat
>tap seat for U
>UU floating
>cast counterspell

>>54194001
Fuck man, I'm no tryhard. I play EDH casually. Get that cEDH shit outta here.

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>>54193285
Spoiler that shit. This isn't a gore thread.

>>54188715
someone link me a fun tribal themed deck, i've played sydri, wort, avacyn, maelstrom wanderer and phage before

>>54194001
>can cast a fugitive wizard AND a hedron crab
sweet jesus

>>54193759
Scarab god is the weakest as it relies on so much set up to really get going. It not that its bad, it just needs set up.

Scorpion is second place because it enables 2-3 different infinite combos with its ability to throw -1 counters and its draw trigger. Its a red/black control deck that has a combo piece in the command zone.

Locus is best because its an inbuilt infinite mana outlet and just has the easiest time spinning and winning with wheels and such. So its not just a combo piece, but a win condition as well.

>>54194058
see >>54193593

Sphinx fact or fiction tribal is pretty fun. Play interesting flyers while being able to leave counter mana up while digging for answers as you deck yourself for Labman.

>>54194115
This was my conclusion as well. Locust god is insane, once you get out Phyrexian/Ashnods Altar/Mana Echoes you just cycle through wheels, draw your deck, make shitloads of mana, and/or have a shitload of hasty fliers

>>54194115
What do you mean by so much set up for the scarab god? You don't have to rely on the first ability to win.

I enjoy taking normally dickish commanders and doing something fun with them, so what could I do with Derevi or Zur that would be both fun and interesting? I like them both, but my group doesn't need Derevi Stax and linear Zur combo is boring.

>>54191369
I already mentioned in my post I was running Parallax Tide and some of the combos I can pull off with it. I'm also running Parallax Nexus, for what it's worth, but that one os far less useful.

>>54194183
Chaos confetti combo works with only UW if you do it on yourself

>>54190400
MLD. Use with care.

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>>54193285
>Reminder you can fix your Samut card

But I dont know how I should go about replacing the god awful flavor text

>>54194164

With scarab you need to mill people, then have them have useful creatures or else you have to mill your own graveyard for value. Sure its dimir, but its a more complex set up vs the other two that just need a few simple to grab combo pieces to simply go off.

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>>54190434

>>54193593
fof tribal Unush is actually pretty good, played against it a bit on cockatrice.

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>>54194311
Is this OC?

How would your playgroup respond to an altered commander where the art was literally cut and paste from another card? I mean I guess there's worse ways to alter a card out there.

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>slowly realizing how many different Doomsday piles I can make in Dralnu

What have I done

I don't even run YawgWill or LED

>>54190400
Equipment Voltron Aurelia with her friends Mind's Eye and Land Tax, include the red yolo extra turn spells and some extra extra combat phase and blink effects.

>>54194115

scorpion god combos require way more set up to work than just valueing off scarab god's abiltiies. scorpion god combos are fragile, if you counter the combo pieces he doesnt do much, not good at killing creatures and not good at drawing cards, the scarab god is an attrition deck

if you have infinite mana, scarab god should still win you the game, but i concede that youre right its probably simpler to just do it with locust god, forgot the insects have haste

>>54194348
well I have posted it here once before but yes it is my card. The ones on the sides are otherones I used.

My entire group agrees anything is better than the normal art and people usually toss me bulk cards to chop up and try if I like them enough,

>>54194311
Better flavortext "Recent studies have proven (Again) that ancient egyptians were not black"

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>>54193698
The titans are ok, blue & red gearhulk.

My favorite cycle is Wonder, Anger, Brawn, Filth, Glory.

I own a fucking beautiful foil Glory printed in Hebrew. Possibly one of my favorite cards ever. It's also a good fucking card in edh. Really underrated.

Pic related

>>54194380
Yeah but thats hard to find on another card I could cut it from.

Mostly I want to find a Gold card with good art and another one with good flavor that will match the new art so it isnt as terrible as using the monocolor borders,

>>54194388
Oy vey

>>54194322

i dont think you need to mill people with scarab god. just play control, counter their creatures, kill their creatures. then late game you have all these 4 mana 4/4s that drain life and have other abilities

i think thats wayyyyy better than trying to tutor up and stick your blowfly infestation and nest of scarabs every game. his combos are just too fragile.

although id be interested in hearing about the other variations on the combo

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>>54193593

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>>54194407
English for those who can't be fucked to look up the cycle

>>54194465
I was more surprised that hebrew cards even exist

>>54193593
You would want to slow the game down in general so cards like Frozen Aether and Aether Barrier, Energy Flux, Pendrell Mists and Orb of Dreams.

Probably toss in things like Propaganda and Crawlspace + Silent Arbiter as well.

Sounds fun.

>>54194522
*Card

They just did this for a promo, like the Phyrexian elesh norn

>>54194522
Only one does, the prerelease Glory. There's a few other special language cards like that, they did a little thing for a few years where the prerelease card was in a foreign language.for some damn reason.

>Want to Devoted Druid/Vizier of Remedies combo in Selvala
>Devoted Druid costs approximately all the money
Fucking Modern players.

>>54194670

you can find them for like $8 you goddamn poorfag

>>54194690
I need that money to afford bigger pieces of cardboard.

>>54194416
2 mana with training grounds, not sure how id go playing the deck though.

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>>54193959
My fav is untapping a Nev Disk. Untapping big mana rocks if just fine though. Time to shill my favorite underplayed card I guess.

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I really want to run this guy, and I already have some of the spicier cards with him.

I just don't see him as fast or effective as Scarab God. Is there a way or strat to make him as deadly as Scarab God?

>>54194832

He's just way different

Scorpion God: weird combo deck with janky plan b of board wiping after throwing around -1/-1 counters somehow

Scarab God: control deck that uses opponents creatures

Locust God: storm/wheel combo deck

>>54194907
Entomb, Buried alive, and self discard say hi my friend?

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>>54194907
If I went on a milling theme with Scarab God, could I build a deck on a budget with that strat?

>>54194992

yes

>>54194992
I wouldn't even try milling, just play good removal. Kill your opponents creatures then exile them for value.

>>54193358
literally anything, play good value cards and wow it works

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>>54194992
Don't bother with a mill theme but do run one of these for flavor and fun.

>>54195137
That is spicy

i just picked up a cool foil panharmonicon in a trade the other day, but i don't know what deck to put it in. what are some good uses for it?

>>54193050
Oh shit, I never noticed Vault of Whispers was in the background.

noice.

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>>54195170
>good uses for it

>>54195170

palinchron + 6 or more lands + panharmonicon = infinite mana

all the titans are awesome with panharmonicon. if you have 3 mana etb creatures in the yard, sun titan gets especially silly

shriekmaw and mulldrifter are great

>>54193698
The Shadowmoor/Eventide Demigods and their Boons.

>>54195170
You can build Riku of Two+ Reflections

>>54193698
The titans and preators are solid gold. You could scoop up the chancellors too but their about as strong as the primordials.

>>54193698
The Titan Cycle is sweet, and they have some great promos

>>54194756
That's actually a pretty good idea. I run a lot of small stuff like spellbombs and small combo pieces. I think I might steal this.

What commander feels most like Guts from Berserk?

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>>54194311
>tfw wizards will never have great mtg plot again

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>>54195387
Zurgo Helmsmasher

>>54195387
Zurgo smashfucker or Lord of Tresserhorn

What are some SPICY cards to put into a zedruu the greathearted deck?

Poorfag here, I want to throw a Jhoira edh together and I want to know;

What cards do you consider absolutely necessary to run no matter what?

I found a Blightsteel Colossus in my old stuff and almost shit myself when I checked his price today.

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>>54194690
>>54194992
Poorfags are more worse than discordfags, conservativefags or safespacefags.

>>54195618
It's absolutely necessary you have some way of defending your person when you cheat out one two many cards

>>54195430
>Lord of Tresserhorn

I can't figure out how to build this guy but he looks like a ton of fun.

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>>54195610
Get the life, pass the bill

>>54195754
>Get the life, pass the bill

Bounce the bill, play it again, get the life, pass the bill...

>>54194183
Zur Reanimator, just use Zur to fetch Animate Dead, Necromancy, or any other graveyard feeding/interacting enchantment.

Can someone post me a good non mono color morph deck? I love morph but mono U animar or w/e his name is doesnt seem too fun.

>>54196175
One of the people in my group uses Surrak Dragonclaw and it works pretty well.

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Any spice for a shadowborne apostle deck?

Any deck lists?

>>54195872
I actually kinda like this idea

>>54196175
>mono U animar

Animar is three colors though.

>>54196175
You can use Brago or Roon to flicker face-down creatures.
Ezuri will get you Experience any time you play a face-down creature.
Marchesa lets you get counters on your Morphs, then sacrifice and return them faceup.

>>54193050
i might be biased cause mirrodin2.0 is my first set and my favourite set but fuck i love the art.
Easily my favourite plane visually. I just wish they didn't waste gorgeous art on awful commons (hexplate golem is one of my favourite cards artwise )

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>want to build U/G +1/+1 counters
>Simic counter commanders have just enough slight variation in them that I don't know what to pick
Maybe I'll say fuck it and build Rehan/Thrasios.

>>54196332
Tymna and Sidar Kondo as your commanders.

Never run out of gas and the 3 best colours for apostles.

>>54193698
Lieges for multicolor. I have a progenitors deck with all 10 lieges and as much multicolor fjckery as possible

>>54196949
Kraj is the wackiest, pick him

how do people choose their first commander? I feel so lost.

>>54197407
kinda in the same boat. i'm just going to build an "average" deck from edhrec and see what happens on xmage.

>>54197407
If you have a history of playing magic in general, you can usually pick something that mimics an archetype you already like, so if you were into draw-go or storm or stompy or whatever, there are generals that support those strategies a lot better than others. After you pick a strategy and a color combination, your selection of generals is usually pretty slim, and you can just choose which one seems the most fun from those.

If you haven't played magic before at all, buy a precon and play against people. When you come across a deck doing something that you really want to mimic, try to to build something like that.

>>54197407
Just pick. Ill do it for you if you cant. Play wort the raidmother, get an emerald medalion, amulet of vigor and use the keyword search your library for a land and welcome to magic.

>>54195415
How's the backstory though?

>>54197057
I was looking at them individually and they seemed meh but together, Yeah I get it. I was gunna go Athreos so I could either recur the apostles or chip at people

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Post Decks + Completion %

>Anafenza, Secret Mono White control with Birthing Pod shenanigans - 90%
>Sakashima, Copycat.dek - 75%
>Jeleva D*ckeater and Mayael Turbo Stomp - both 50%, both new

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>>54194311
Here, this is what you want to proxy.

>>54197407
I loved alara and esper is my favorite colour combination so I looked at thr list of alara esper legends and chose sen triplets.

Maybe think about whats your favorite plane/colour-combination and see if there is a legend for it?

I want to play a deck that utilizes lands without going full combo (Gitrog Monster). Is Titania fun?

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Good sacrifice stuff for ayli? Non-tokens for death triggers specifically.

>>54198486
Bloodghast, Nether Shadow, Nether Traitor and your pic are all solid options.

>>54198469
Play Borborygmos.
He's pretty Lands.dec without being particularly combo-happy. Sometimes you just hit people with Wolf Run and win through raw command damage too.

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Fucking hell, is there really no better cards with this effect?

>>54198535
Charnelhoard Wurm

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>>54198546
Good one, but not in the colors for it. Building Vela the Night-Clad with critters and Piracy effects.

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>>54198535
Well, technically speaking.

>>54193036
It causes the threads to move too fast usually we wait till they hit page 10, the conversations don't stop so there's no reason to start another one just because it hits bump limit

>>54198535
The Black Siege card from FRF,
Gravedigger + flicker method,
There's a lot, weird question desu.

>>54191672
Is this some retarded meme? I come to EDH general maybe once a week and I have seen that very same picture at least a dozen times.

>>54193152
>hand drawn cartoons look like video games
Get your eyes fixed

>>54198486
just so you know, ayli is more suited for a goodstuffy reanimator deck than a pure "sac lots of stuff" deck

you might want to run teysa, orzhov scion instead

>>54198669
He wants to get the effect on hitting people. I would've suggested Phyrexian Reclamation but I figured he wasn't looking for that sort of thing. Even Gravedigger's better than the card he posted.

>>54198581
Come to think of it, how does Intimidate and Fear work together? Assuming you attack with a monoblue creature with fear while Vela is on the field, can it be blocked by both black and blue creatures or does the blocker have to be both colours or is there a overwrite happening and go with timestamps?

>>54198716
If a Black creature has Fear and Intimidate, they're functionally the same effect.

If a Blue/Black creature has Fear and Intimidate, it has:
>This creature can only be blocked by a blue creature, a black creature, or an artifact creature.
>This creature can only be blocked by a black creature or an artifact creature.

So basically, their creature has to pass both checks to be able to block, meaning Fear is basically the only one that matters.

Now, if you have a blue creature with Intimidate and Fear, it has:
>This creature can only be blocked by a blue creature or an artifact creature.
>This creature can only be blocked by a black creature or an artifact creature.

In that situation, the only creatures that can block it are Blue/Black creatures, or Artifact creatures. Nonartifact mono Blue or mono Black creatures can't pass both checks.

If you have a colorless creature with both Fear and Intimidate, it can only be blocked by artifact creatures. Nothing else can pass both checks.

>>54198031
if you think this art is better than the official art you have poop brain

source: taste

>>54198486
Tree of perdition.

Put someone on 13 life and gain a buttload of life yourself.

is Doran tribal cheap to build and fun to play?

>>54198970
Some treefolk are weirdly expensive.

>>54199019
aw, that's a bugger. it seemed cool to play

>>54193319
Also the story entries focusing on her PoV aren't as bad as the ones focusing on Chandra or worse, Nissa. Which is sort of like saying that at least Tuberculosis isn't as bad as Malaria or Genetically Engineered Weapons Grade Super-Ebola, but it's something.

>>54198970
i'm building a doran deck right now. not a ton of treefolk you really want to run imo. the expensive part of the deck is probably lands. lots of cards in the 5-10 range but not a lot of 20-30 cards like a blue deck might have.

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>>54198697
Why the anger, Anon? You rather have these instead? :')

>>54199169
thanks for the input! yeah maybe tribal isn't the route you wanna go, there's lots of other good high toughness creatures that aren't treefolk.

>>54188715
>Tell me a story where everything went just as keikaku.
idk what the fuck that weeb shit means you faggot, go back to /a/

>>54198527
That's the second time this answer came up to my question, so I think I'll try it. Thanks!

Most Bobo cards seem pretty cheap compared to the stuff that's usually run in Titania or Pepe, so that's welcome too.

>>54198970
Treefolk tribal is just like 3 to 5 good creatures shy of being a solid deck. Like the other anon said, Lorwyn is just old enough that the cards for it are starting to get expensive.

>>54199226
It's a meme but thanks for making a valuable contribution.

>question
>guy next to me plays bearer of the heavens
>acts like he's hot shit and untouchable
>i however do not negotiate with terrorists
>it comes back around to me and I rather fittingly play reckless spite

They could do what they wanted, I had already won

I want to build a Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis group hug deck; Any good articles or decklists on it that don't start from the assumption that I own the original official EDH prebuilt?

>>54199404
try looking at edhrec.com or tappedout.net

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Why am I this person?

>>54199480
i'm the opposite

>>54199480
What's going on here?

>>54199480
Selvala explorer returned is a good deck!
>tfw thats almost exactly the same curve as mine

>>54199590
It's Selvala, Explorer Returned. A bunch of Dorks and untap effects, plus searching for Lighting Greaves, with Aetherflux Reservoir. The top end of the curve is Regal Force and Praetor's Counsel for large card advantage.

>>54193959
Tap Voltaic Key to untap your Time Vault

Another good combo:
Tap Sensei's Top to draw a card
In response to that activation, tap Voltaic Key to untap Top
Tap Sensei's Top to draw a card
This ends up with Top back in your hand and you've drawn one new card. It's a beautiful combo.

>>54194224
You're right but I think you ignored part of what it does though. Permanently exiling all opponents' creatures, enchantments, and lands should simply win the game 99% of the time.

SHIT

I don't know what to build. I want to try something with Sidar Kondo but I don't know who would be the best partner/archetype to use with him.

>>54199798
just do what every other partner deck is aside from like 2. use it for colors and nothing else

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>>54199758
>Time Vault

>>54199798
Silas Renn puts you in four colors and making Smug Artifact Man unblockable is pretty good. Tymna puts you in Abzan and similarly helps when not blocked. Don't play Ravos, his anthem ruins Sidar's effect.

>tfw cant go to prerelease this weekend

>>54199798
Combat damage triggers boyo

>>54199895
>prerelease
>playing magic outside of edh
>spending money on cards that arent singles
I sincerely hope that you have never done this, friend.

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>>54191601
>ursa

>>54198698
>what are 2D games

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>>54199931
I can second this

>tfw double striking shrouded unblockable Sphinx Ambassador

>>54199933
but prerelease is fun

>>54199933
It's always pretty fun and I like finding EDH uses for the cards I pull

>>54199169
are you building doran with a life gain theme? I noticed there's quite a few cards that fit with Doran that also got to do with life

>>54193698
From not mentioned already - Avatars from Prophecy. Most aren't really useful in EDH, but it's a great cycle and they all cost pennies.

>>54193698
Onslaught block's pit fighters.

>>54199933
My friends buy a couple boxes for whatever reason. I get all my crappy bulk rares for freeish because I sell the big shit for them on ebay

>>54188868
My favorite is when people with shit threat assesment think that they can actually play control decks effectively.

So I wanted to put a Sunforger into the Mardu Marchesa deck.
So far for the Sunforger pack I choose:

Anguished Unmaking, Boros Charm, Chaos Warp, Crackling Doom, Mortify, Rakdos Charm, Return to Dust, Terminate, Unmake, Utter End

This is for a multiplayer group and is fairly budgeted for our low tier of play.
At this level, in our group, I wont see a lot of tutors so games are fairly inconsistent.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/monarch-mischief/

>>54189685
>>54189489
>>54189331
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/obey-ultra-competitive-control/

Only one way to build the fat baby man.

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I need some edh advice

my mom wants to play edh with me, she has never played magic ever, what the hell do i build her? Was thinking of g/w voltron, very basic, easy concept, able to interact in a fasion without much planning to have fun.

>>54200373
Doomsday Zur. Throw her in the deep end.
I'd give her Naya Voltron. Uril is pretty good.

>>54200444
i originally wanted to do naya, but without the ability to plan out your mana fetching she might end up mana screwed and not have fun, so i wana limit it to 2 colors at most, maybe even 1

>>54200373
Freyalise precon

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>>54198535
Does that count?

>>54200471
UG goodstuff. A braindead monkey could win with that.

>>54194423
Someone shoop a fidget spinner real quick, i'm at work

>>54200533
na, the simic deck is for my lil bro with adhd

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>>54200471
>1 colour
Play mono white angel tribal. Mothers love angels.

>>54200719
Angel tribe is shit though.

>>54200733
i just thought that playing fliers and do combat damage is an easy concept for new players, and angels is a theme for middle age women.
really doesn't matter if it's good or not when you're a new player. just have fun, r-right guys?

>>54199414
I love edhrec, and have been using it a lot. Tappedout isn't as interesting or useful to me, they don't really tend to discuss or defend their card choice

>be me
>come into my LGS to pick up cards to finish my new deck, haven't been there for a month
>a bit worried if my goblin tribal deck would be too fast for my semi-casual meta to handle
>accept invitation to join a game
>everybody turns out to have dropped their original brewed decks and are playing boring ass infinite combos in UG, GW, UR and BG
>turn 4 Saffi player mills everybody out
>next game turn 4 Rashmi player goes infinite and steals every permanent
>third game turn 5 Meren stomps everybody with infinite tokens he made t4
>all the while they go around asking each other and the judge how their triggers and combos actually work
>mfw my comfy LGS become involved in the competitive arms race

Full of salt and regret

>>54200765
maybe good idea

i have a hard time getting new players to commit to attacking ever unless there is safe ways in doing so and being able to block, so vigilance, unblockable, flying, and indestructible are very noob friendly taglines

>>54200849
my LGS is like this too but everyone has about 5 decks each so we all just switch around.

>>54200956
If you don't mind my asking, how do you go about building a mana base for 5 different decks? Did you dish out the cash for fetch and abur lands for each deck or are you using mirage lands assuming you have dual/tri/etc color decks?

>>54200992
i usually run mono colored decks because they are more fun to me so I think im the wrong person to ask

>>54200956
I guess I'm so mad right now because they used to promote ideas of fun interaction above everything else and now they think two card combos early are legit and fun way to end the game. Also, my Cockatrice/Xmage flashbacks.

They'll probably come to conclusion that they need other less cutthroat decks, but it will take quite some time and I've got nowhere else to play

>>54201001
Right. I'm in the boat right now of having 6-8 ongoing builds for commander and they're all two color or more. Playing mono hasn't ever really appealed to me but Damn if I won't be forced to do so to keep the mana base in line

>>54201029
If my playgroup ever goes competitive, I'd probably have to drop it for a minute. I'm all about group hug and janky/dumb stuff.

>>54200992
You'd be surprised how many people in this thread would refuse to take expensive cards out of the the deck they've built, but haven't played in months, and buy more copies instead.

For me, that's the main barrier for having a lot of decks, so I do different color combination or different themed monocolor. I also suffer from buyer's remorse a lot

>>54201029
even during the small tourneys we have each week people just ask around the table and switch their decks accordingly. we had a new player running basically a slightly modified pre-con so we just used our weaker decks and still had fun. depends on your LGS

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why would they print a card like this? not only is it boring, it's bad outside of 1v1 environments.

>>54201104
>it's bad outside of 1v1 environments.

More often than not, if the table isn't at parity - it's at a 1v1 with two bystanders.

The card's fine.

>>54201104
speaking of that
>leaked by EBgames a few days ago
>still not taken down on their website
do wizards just not know?

>>54201121
i tried making a super aggressive fast deck like that when saskia came out, but even her ability to spread damage between two players, i'd kill one or two and then get fucked up by the last player who would be ramped into bigger shit than i had, drew a wrath, or tutored for a combo.

i don't know about you, but the meta at my lgs is pretty balanced to the point where everyone i play with is a potential threat.

>>54201154
thats just how aggro is in commander. you wont be in last place but you wont win

>>54201125
They probably leaked it themselves, just like the Ixalan sheet.

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>>54201125

>>54201104
- It has the color identity you need to tutor Chameleon Colossus.
- I believe this format can accomodate Vintage-lite Highlander and Supreme Large Jank. It is very Big and Huge. Jank.
- There are a lot of janky-ass catccards sitting around doing nothing. Printing a bunch of tribal cards with abilities feels like the correct approach to getting use out of these piles of garbage. (Baiting more people into their LGS.)

>>54201165
what are you talking about

>>54201162
i know, but it makes me bummed out that they're still printing the same style of aggro general for the commander sets instead of printing more commanders that can actually make aggro decks work.

the upcoming legendary pirate, for example

>>54201168
I wonder if the guy would allow me to copy his mana crypt and proxy it.
What do you think he would say?

>swap out Slobad for Daretti in the command zone
>deck is wildly more consistent as a result

I felt bad doing it, but fuck, Daretti is pretty dank. I kind of want to turn it into a hardcore stax deck.

>>54200849
The other way around can also be bad. I have had enough 3 hour games where nobody at the table actually thought about implementing a winning move into their decks.

>>54201187
That it's very likely that WotC leaked the Ixalan foil sheet to generate buzz, just like they likely leaked the Dragons and had EB put the Cat deck up.

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>no elk tribal
And there's no chance it's one of the decks for commander 2017

why live?

>>54201154
>>54201162
A point system can get around that issue.

>>54201307
we have a points system, it heavily favors johnny players by awarding points for creating a large stack between multiple players, interesting interactions, and 5+ card infinite combos

still, though, winning usually awards the most points because you get points for both eliminating players and being the last one standing

>>54201307
So, you make like the assholes from Commander Vs with your playgroup? That can work, desu.

>>54201307
While generating a shitload of other issues, sure. I wish I'd see a custom banlist or point system that wasn't completely awful

>>54201273
>Animal almost synonymous with passivity and weakness

It's not that suprising.

>>54201365
look how epic and majestic that stag is. imagine getting impaled by those antlers if you upset it. you'd die.

>>54201382
I'd rather have a 12 gauge tribal deck.

>>54201382
If I'd up set it, it'd run.

The reason why that art is good is because it turns the passive skittish buck into a massive beast, that is inevitably cut down by a guy that just happens to have a big ol' sword.

>>54201550
moose are where it's at, they'll fuck you up for being within 50 feet of them

>>54201550
>swords vs elks
>logic in mtg
oh please. in magic, fire can beat water and 13 small sewer rats can kill big ass emrakul

>>54201596
I totally agree, but a moose ain't an Elk.

>>54201622
>Evaporation
>whatistheblackplagueAlex?.png

Yeah, makes perfect sense.

>>54193593
Not sure if you're around but what are your thoughts on running Sharuum as the commander instead of Unesh? Mono blue seems so limiting for commander and esper gives you a lot of goodies like patrician's bidding.

>>54201646
>rends and absorbs existence
>lul the black plague
No.

>>54201623
there should be moose cards is my point

fuck elks

Why aren't you running Spirit of the Labyrinth and Eidolon of Rhetoric in your mono white decks so everyone suffers as you do?

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>>54201692
i am though

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>>54201680

>>54201692
For real though, Eidolon of Rhetoric is actually a super healthy card. No joke.

It let's other people play that aren't just the super combo players. It sucks if there's someone playing blue at the table, but if there isn't - it's actually pretty good.

>>54201697
>using Iona instead of Linvala as your commander
Why don't you just spit in my mouth while you're at it?

>>54201733
you gotta make sure you're also running rule of law and arcane laboratory

>>54201740
it used to be hokori. there's a linvala in the deck but she's never really been all too relevant in my playgroup

>>54201784
What about Kataki?

>>54201799
he's also in the deck, but i'm playing a lot of mana rocks so a lot of the time i end up being hurt by him more than my opponents are

aetherborn tribal

>>54201673
Anyone can get fucked up by diseases if they get too cocky.

Heads up, target, maybe also walmart, has cubes with commander decks in them for 12.99 also now.

the one by me only had duel decks in it, but might be worth checking out.

>>54201104
>GW Cat Lord
>Not Naya

At least I can use the better Ajani in it...

>>54202390
>My daddy gave me a sportscar for my 16th birthday, but it's the wrong color! I hate him!
This is you.

>>54202447
False equivalency. Look it up.

>>54202531
>>54202531
>>54202531

New thread

>>54202390
>Looks at Gatherer
I withdraw my statement. Wild Necatl and Blistering Firecat are the only real halfway decent cats with any sort of red color identity.