/bbg/ Blood Bowl General - Legendary Edition

>>54163529
Are there any major changes with the new release of Bloodbowl?

>>54163549
here's latest full major info on Legendary Edition
http://forums.focus-home.com/topic/19/blood-bowl-2-legendary-edition-announcement

>>54163529
Cant wait to see that chainsaw go to town on knife ears.

>>54163886
I meant the GW release.

>>54163959
Nothing to core rules.

PO is now nerfed to oblivion, costs a rRR for each body slam.

New Stars

Two new positions for goblins

Gold rolls where past 100k gold you can lose money to accodents. Only really bad post 200k where you can lose half of your money.

300k you may lose nearly everything.

>>54163959
Oh, there's like a handful of changes to the core rules (new mvp rules, PO nerf, no wizard, new inducement rules) and then there's a whole load of crazy ass stuff on the deathzone supplements

the 2016 stuff and deathzone supplements is on the OP's mega

Am I the only one who can't wait for Legendary Edition only for the Mercenary teams?
I just want to mix stuff

Remove Crab when?

So we can all agree that BB:CE>BB2?

>>54166388
Bb2 LE will >>>> BB:CE

>>54166510
Here's hoping

>>54166388
It's a tough call for me even with BB2 in its present incomplete state. As much as I love the teams and features in BB:CE, the UI really was clunky and bothersome.

Playing BB:CE again after BB2 is like visiting that filthy, disorganised sharehouse you used to live in before you moved out into a clean modern place of your own. Sure, your housemates had a huge library of games and movies they let you use anytime but the disrepaired rooms were dreary and the couches always had a dusting of crumbs that managed to survive the occasional half-hearted cleaning attempt.

>>54164303
Same, I want a team of 16 minotaurs

>>54168362
I know it's a joke but imagine a team of 11 mummies with block and guard

surprise double feature

Rod's Retirement Rodeo vs Dancers of the Eclipse
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=984095

and

Rod's Retirement Rodeo vs Dancers of the Eclipse
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=984095

>>54163959
https://www.thenaf.net/blood-bowl/rules/new-box-news/

Genuine question:
Why are Orcs so overpowered?
>can outrobust most other teams
>can also play the ball

>>54170122
average movement is 5

>>54170122
claw

>>54170122
because they aren't. you're just bad. Use movement to outperform them. If playing a slow team, make clever use of your stronger pieces and remove orcs.

>>54175418
>Removing orcs

>>54166954
Fucking hell Anon, too real man. Too real.

>>54177597
CLAW

>>54166659

The only thing CE has over nu-legendary is teams, so there's no way it won't clear that bar unless the new features are actually broken.

>>54180936

Or rather, the only thing it has over BB2 is teams, so nu-legendary ought to clear the bar easily.

>>54177597
it's called fouling you dimwit

>>54181722
no bully

>>54181997
Just hit them lots!

https://twitter.com/BloodBowl_Game/status/882908294486134784

So this is the draw of Cyanide BB, huh

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>>54183705

GAME OF THE YEAR

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>>54183705

Is anyone else a bit pissed that you can't change the difficulty in AI Leagues?
Sometimes I just want to grow teams up a bit and dick around and other times I want a real challenge yet the shitty shit is always on Medium

>>54184785
Medium is the hardest one though.

>>54184785
?????????????
Do you have problems with the AI?

>>54184802
Sometimes he'll get lucky rolls and ruin important players and I have to quit

If we upgrade to legendary, do we unlock also the team pack (Norse, Chorfs and such) or are we stuck with base game+expansion teams but not those?

Rolled 4 (1d6)

gfi

:skull_crossbones:Sylvania Slayers:skull_crossbones: vs Badland Badmoon Battalion
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=984305

>>54163529
Hey I need miniatures of that entire team in OP PRONTO.

>>54190808
get a 3d printer

>>54185330
If buy legendary you get the entire package, if you upgrade to legendary you only get the new legendary content and will still need to buy the other documents teams.

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Fart Kickflip is up on Forge World's site if you really want to pre-order a thicc miscast hunk of resin for £18 plus postage.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Glart-Smashrip-2017

Why is the AI so batshit awful playing Wood Elves? Every game I play against WE half their team is either injured or dead by the end of the game. Not to mention those knocked out

>>54199667
The AI is awful at everything.

>>54199861
I found it okay on bashy teams like Orks, Undead and Norsca(not so much Chaos) but it completely fails at Elves, especially Wood Elves.

>>54199667
Yet to see the AI use hypno gaze whenever it takes Eldril or plays vampires.

>>54163529
>Legendary Edition news.
So, what's new?
Read the rest of OP and didn't find shit

>>54201450
second post of the thread

>>54201978
Well, I'm an idiot, anything new other than the 3 extra screenshots?

>>54201996
I got something new
still no release date

Rolled 2 (1d6)

gfi

I got Blood Bowl 2 on the steam sale but couldn't refund it because I went an hour and five minutes over their 2-hour refund limit. How do I make the game fun and not want to commit arson in Seattle?

>>54209528
Play Undead to get the ropes of it
They're easy to learn and on top of that you rarely lose players

>>54209528
Choose a beginner friendly team. Dwarfs, Orcs or Undead are great. Also check blood bowl tutorials.

My friend has been obsessed with Cathay for years in Warhammer and was looking to make a blood bowl team for them. Would anyone know a choice of minus he could buy and what team would best suit them stat wise?

I showed him the fumbbl team but he wanted to proxy an official team instead. He mainly thought humans but also was considering others.

Any suggestions?

>>54213591
Humans for sure. The fumbbl one is garbage.

>>54213591
seconding just humans,as or minis any hystorical minis he likes will work, we know nothing of cathay beyond its hystorical inspiration so just go with that.

>>54213591
Humans, maybe amazons.

>>54213613
>>54213631
>>54213641
Thanks. Guess I will have a root for asian historicals.

He has a very romantiscized version of Cathay ala Journey to the West and living terakkotas if thats of any assistance for the type of thing he is into.

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>start a Chaos team
>want to dick around with the AI to get the feel of it
>Wood Elves
>didn't injure or knock out a single player
>barely got any "Defender Down"
>only stunned 3 players the whole match
>meanwhile the AI ko'd two goatmen
>stunned three chaos warriors too
>stunned endless goatmen
>never failed a single dodge
>while I never successfully dodged a 3+
>always got either "Defender Down" or "Defender Stumbles" when rolled for 1 dice
>ko'd one goatmen with 2 red dice
>meanwhile I got 2 red skulls with a reroll TWICE
>picked up the ball twice when it was surrounded by my men
>my goatmen kept fumbling the damn thing
>still only won 1-0 because the AI is stupid
Thank God I didn't have a Mino.
I'd have ragequit if it wasn't so fucking hilarious. I can't imagine this happening online though, I'd probably punch a hole through my computer

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95% done making my Lizardmen team.

Took them to a league today, first tabletop league I've ever played in. TV1100, every team got 5 free normal skills to start with. 3 minute turns.

I took
-Krox
-6 Saurii (5 with block)
-4 skinks
Each player had a cheesier name than the last, the most important part of the roster.

>Game 1 vs. Undead
Opponent had guard mummies and blodge ghouls. His minis were unpainted and unbased, made it very hard to tell his zombies apart from his mummies. Since I was not used to tabletop leagues I got murdered on 'illegal procedure' mistakes, costing me re-rolls 3 or four times in the game. Worse, my opponent told me that he also got a re-roll every time he accurately called illegal procedure, which I since read was not the case. Injured a ghoul, suffered injuries on a skink and a saurus. Stupidly, I read the casualty table wrong and though they missed next game instead of just missing this game.
Won 1-0.

>Game 2 vs. Dwarfs
Dwarfs had 5 guard linemen. The poor dwarf player failed to pick up the ball 6 times at the start with his runners, including re-rolls. He took too many risks and GFIs and burned through his re-rolls quick as well. I had the upper hand, taking the ball in turn 4 during his drive. He took a phone call and got some rough news about a personal issue, after which point his heart wasn't in the game. After my second touchdown we agreed he could concede early without penalties. Won 2-0, got no injuries and suffered some negligible injuries myself. Got more fan-factor, bought a journeyman skink that scored a touchdown.

(cont.)

>>54214370
>Game 3 vs. Humans
After the last game a saurus got mighty blow and a skink got side-step.
Humans had an Ogre with guard, 3 blitzers with guard 1 with tackle, and a catcher and a thrower each had block.

Fairly uneventful game. Careful play from both sides, but started with ref moving the clock forwards on my drive. I hesitated too much in my drive and kept my skink in a surrounded cage rather than making a break for it. I ran out of time to score. Strangely, there were about 5 armour breaks in the entire first half, all stuns, even though we were averaging at least 4 blocks each per turn.

My opponent's drive in the second half started well, forming a solid cage and marking most of my saurii in positions where they couldn't stop the cage. I forced them towards the side of the pitch, then set up a skink screen to slow their advance with a saurus blitzing here and there. This was great at delaying the action long enough for my other saurii to dislodge themselves from the fights around the pitch and get to the action, after which point they ground their way towards the ball carrier. At turn 15 the ball carrier tried a desperate throw which succeeded, but the catcher got blitzed down next turn and I put lots of tackle zones on the ball. I'd knocked out a lot of players and had control of the pitch, but again not enough time to run down and score. The newly hired skink was injured and killed, a saurus badly hurt a lineman. 0-0 draw.

Aside from a few quibbles it was a great day.

Lessons learned:
- Guard is awesome
- It's good to use coloured rubber bands to mark skills on miniatures (yellow for dodge, green for block etc.) since it saves so much time asking when you've only got 3 minute turns
- Be extremely wary of illegal procedures, but they don't necessarily give your opponent re-rolls
- Kroxigors are firstly for clogging up players, secondly for punching.
- everyone likes nu-MVP
- starting with block on saurii is amazing

>>54214616
>everyone likes nu-MVP
triggered

Deadline Dodgers vs Brockley Blizzard

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=984774

Pitch Invasion at +2 fame to kick us off

>>54214675

Are there any good reasons not to like it? I suppose it would help teams like nurgle and chaos develop their killers faster, but if you're playing with nu-MVP you're playing with nerfed piling-on as well.

Seems to me that nu-MVP works better conceptually, since it was always weird when a punching bag zombie got MVP while the players doing the real work didn't.

And it's more rewarding for coaches too. One might have lost 3-0, had their best player die to Throw a Rock, been unable to pick up the ball all game, injured his 2 runners on GFIs- but at least the MVP will go to a player that matters. Its far more rewarding when you can see progress on players you care about.

It's also a godsend to Ogres who would have MVPs wasted most of the time.

Why does BB2 give such little rewards for winning? Bashy teams can coast through leagues easily because even if they don't win they still grow. Meanwhile squishy teams get fucked, because a goal is almost never worth an injury.
I hope in LE2 losing teams get no MVP at all.

Today at 19:00 server time (a.k.a. 2.5 hours from now), Picchan's Precious Memories will take on Jump in the Trunk to see who will remain undefeated.

>>54215751
What is the difference in BB2?

>>54216367
I've never played the tabletop
You only get 3 pps per goal and the only thing you get from winning is a reroll on gold won

>>54216827
Those are the normal rules. It's not going to change. Try playing in a league where winning actually matters, perpetual leagues are pretty pointless.

My Slaan teams inability to stop scoring has led me to a final against a Chaos Dwarf team. Send help or advice please.

SCE team when?

>>54216007
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=984834
Picchan's Precious Memories vs. Jump In The Trunk.

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>>54217889

>>54214370
Sounds sweet man. Looks like you found your groove with the lizardmen. Good job!

Illegal procedure is a bit of a miffed rule but well done stopping the undead despite all that. Im not a fan of it either.

Wish my LGS had a league scene but ah well. Keep us updated how things go.

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>>54217889
I HAVE ASCENDED

>>54221628
Bump

>>54216827
The winner also gets an extra 10k. So, it's (D6 (rerollable) + FF + 1) x 10k for the winner and (D6 + FF) x 10k for the loser.

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Is new GW chaos pack any good?

I want to make it because the variety of miniatures (I mean make a elf, ork, skaven, goblin, human and 3 big guys looks like they are in the same a team seems like a good challenge) but the team any good?

For the moment i will use ungors as human renegades (because I used to have beastmen and I never did anything whit those ungors), a ork boy as orc (from black reach, but I was thinking on use a 2ed ork from the starter box, those funny horned ones, I'm not sure yet), a Minotaur, a snorting from some ogre bits as goblins and a friend is going to give me a skaven (possibly from island of blood) an a wood elf (or maybe high i don't know yet) and a old ogre (possibly metal) and the cost for the new team is $0 ... for now and not considering a new brush that I MUST buy soon

So yeah ungors don't look like liners but I like the idea of ungors go renegades against they beastlord

So where do I get a reasonable price troll? Or should I go for the black pass fire troll on eBay or should I forget the troll and go ogre + Mino

Pic related, the team roster from DZ2

>>54227898
Chaos renegades
Pact was from LRB 6

>>54227898
pact is good when it gets some skills. if you want to minmax it then the minotaur is probably not worth it, nor the skaven. but pact really only suffers early on when they have no skills

>>54163998

>Two new positions for goblins

Wait wut?

Chainsaw, ball n chain, bomber and pogo stick are all i see. and they have had those for years.

>>54214293

Let me guess. you were playing on the hardest setting?

because while the AI dose get better on a harder setting. the thing that makes it "hard" is you flub dice rolls while the AI makes 5+ actions like they are 2+ and rolls double pow's with a 2 dice uphill block.

>>54214370

>TV1100, every team got 5 free normal skills to start with.

Jesus its likes they just wanted to hand the games to lizardmen. because the only thing helping other teams vs fresh lizards is the lack of block on all that move 6 strength 4 bullshit you get.

>>54228674
they get a doom diver, which is a normal goblin except when you ttm it can't scatter back on you, only forewards. so it's good for 1ttds. the other is a normal goblin with disturbing presence and fan favorite for 70k, so it's pretty trash

>>54228703
I was playing in an AI League, which is Hard by default and you can't change it
I've never had any trouble beating it other than the first week or two of playing so I thought it'd be a cakewalk.

>>54216837

>perpetual leagues are pretty pointless.

Unless you like building a team of all stars. watching them climb in ranks from rookie to superstar with 5 or 6 skills. Keeping a tally on how many kills, TD's, passes ect ect ect each player gets.

Short run leagues are ok. but i take pride in the teams i have in the on going league that are sitting at over 2,000,000 in value.

>>54228730

In the table top game or the PC game?

>>54228819
tabletop and i'd assume pc as well

>>54228862

Are the doom diver and fancy gobo star players or something?

I dont have deathzone season 2 in hand but im not seeing anything saying they can get them on their roster and even the rules download on the GW pages dosent show them.

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>>54228915
Nope.

>>54228915
they're positionals

>>54228967
>>54228970

Well dang. now im gonna have to pick up season 2.

What exactly dose "swoop" do?

>>54229044
What exactly dose "swoop" do?
On a throw team mate the gobbo scatters 3xd3 instead of 3xd8
so you can actually "aim" a cage or always fly to the endzone

Hi everybody,
I have a question about fumbbl /tg/ league:
this season are the top 8 teams going to play-off or top 16 teams?
I thought it was top 8 teams, but after my last match opponent comment, I have a doubt :)

>>54230170
We normally do a top 8 per division, but due to everyone being in the same division this season we're going for a top 16.

>>54230348
Ah ok thank for the information.
But where was it written, I did miss the information? *shame on me*

>>54230170
>>54230479

Yep it's 16 with this being something of a special season. Didn't figure it was worth changing the rules page and then getting Pizza to change it back.

>>54230820
Thanks! I also like to suck dicks and taking it up the bum. Just FYI :)

>>54231838

Nice lad, I'll put that in your personal analytics folder I sell onto Google

>>54230820
Sorry I did not mean to criticise the organizers.

Ah also I did not realize anybody can post insanities with my name here:)

>>54232091
By insanity i mean my never ending lust for cocks :)

>>54233014
Yeah yeah, we get it.

>>54229348

The downside is that the DD no longer gets the benefits of being Stunty. So no more ignoring multiple tackle zones.
The downsides still work just fine.

>>54234018
I've just used him as a missile to throw at other players. Some success.

FUCK YES I FINALLY FOUND HOW TO FUCK WITH THE GAME'S DATABASE IN SINGLE PLAYER
I AM GOD

>>54235683
ELVES WITH 7 STR AND MIGHTY BLOW? FUCKING YES
BIG GUY WITH NO WILD BEAST/REALLY STUPID/WHATEVER
YOU'RE GOD DAMNED RIGHT

Crime Sans Punishment vs Draw A Boy
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=985087

Crime Sans Punishment vs Draw A Boy
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=985087

Crime Sans Punishment vs Draw A Boy
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=985087

>>54235902
>>54235917
>>54236365
Shit I missed the game. Can someone give me the replay?

>>54237421
1D POWs but then 1D skulls.

>>54231838
>>54233014

No bully the fumbblrinas!

>>54214675

Yeah, I always loved having linos bloating TV while my bash pieces just had to pray for casualties in order to reliably advance. And dead players and journeyman deserve to have MVP sometimes too.

Rolled 2, 3 = 5 (2d6)

Level-up

dead

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We need a model of the BB2 Skaven thrower for table top.

>>54244348
Agreed, he's a beauty.

We need the new cyanide goblins while we're at it, I'm not big on the new heavily armoured gobbos GW released

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>>54244505
I like em but agreed on we need cyanide gobbos. I want miniatures of the entire team in the OP.
I
Fucking
N E E D
Them

>>54245955
Gonna neeed to convert them sadly. The plastic night goblins for fantasy should work with a bit of love.

Stone Troll is the troll in the cyanide BB. Green stuff a hat and pouldrone and you are golden.

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Do we have any idea when GW plan to release these beauties?

>>54246026
But I can't greenstuff for shit. And that fucker with the chainsaw needs a miniature right the fuck now

don't die m8

https://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=3917473
Ya missed it

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>>54246882
Anon just get some space marine chainsword hand and replace a night goblin hand with that. Boom you are golden.

If you want a closeish mini for troll, order the classic ripper bolgrot.

Night gobbos just literally cut off the weapons.

>>54246618
Id say in another two months but nothing official yet.

Hangman's Hill Hollows Versus Chthonic Cabal ends 1-0 atop a heap of dead rats https://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=3917512

>>54228722
They get trashed by wood elves though in this format.
>no block/surehands for the skinks
>War dancers will have tackle and strip ball

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I was originally planning on entering next /tg/ league season with Chaos. But now I am split between going vanilla Chaos or Nurgle.

I love both their fluff but of the four gods of Chaos, Nurgle is by far my favourite. Only thing keeping me back is their weaker offense and much slower pieces but I love durability and the focus on defense is pretty cool.

Any advice?

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So this... is the power of scrubluck.

>>54260067

Also, guess the race match up. The truth might surprise you!

>>54259979

Play elves.

>>54259979
chaos can get a minotaur, that's way more badass dude

>>54260208
Elves smell

>>54260225
I actually do like the minotaur but I have lost countless to crippling injuries or death. I never leave home without one but wonder if nurgles more ponderous approach would be more refreshing.

>>54260225

Beast is better. And murdering an elf that got tentacled trying to dodge away is cooler than anything a mino can do.

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Looking to make an underworld team, are there any good conversion options out there to give the gobbos pointed hoods like real night goblins?

>>54260635
I think your best bet is just get a night goblin box set and go from there. For Skaven you can probably work with the bb team and just use extra models as spectators or coach staff.

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>>54260853

Would the night goblin heads look okay on the new Blood Bowl goblin bodies do you think?

Also, thinking about using the squig hopper warboss as Madcap Miggz so I can roster them (Glart may be the better choice but Miggz is more FUN and stays unlike the verminator).

>>54261284
If you're willing to saw their heads off. Other than the unit champions, their heads and bodies are one piece. Also I think they are too small.

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>>54261284
I think if you really want night gobbos your best bet is just to make it from those minis.

The bb gobbos are twice as big so even if you cut the heads off they will be tiny by comparison.

Also solid choice for Migzz. Never thought of that myself. Glart is more reliable but Miggz is a ton cheaper. Also with claw he makes the av9 bunchj av7 so not bad.

Have fun with him and let me know how he works for you.

>>54261284

Given their high maintenance cost, are rostered star players viable?

>>54261567

Glart is 190k and Miggz is 170k so not much difference. They both have claw.

>>54261663
I cant believe I never noticed Glart had claw. Christ what a bargain!

>>54262080

He's more rat than you can handle.

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Nobody's posted these here yet?

dead

QUICK QUESTION:

can you play Blood Bowl 2 on the PS4 in hot seat mode? 2 player multiplayer with just one controller?

>>54265614
Doubt anyone here plays on ps4, but I don't see any reason why they'd have removed hotseat for the console versions.

>>54263656
The amazon looks kewl

>>54263646

THICC

I'm excited to have Ogres soon.

>>54265815
Friendly reminder Amazons pads their boobs.

https://twitter.com/BloodBowl_Game/status/884764860147519489
Shake it baby.

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>>54267018
>Orc cheerleaders, coo-
>mfw

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>>54263646
I like how the Ogres have heavy inspiration from their classic BB miniatures. Glad Cyanide didn't do a lazy copy and paste, they look awesome.

>>54261616
Not really with the new cash rules of expensive mistakes. I think the only rostered star players who would be viable would be the 60-80k ones as they are very low price to recruit to begin with and very cheap to maintain.

The other more expensive but far better star players are still better off being induced.

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Would it be out of place to use a Great Unclean one (pic related scale) as a Beast of Nurgle in a Nurgle team?

I know they are intensely strong but would it be really be out there and inaccurate for an unarmed Great Unclean one to run around in Blood Bowl and help out his team?

>>54267018
Geez, those look like once teacher we had at high-school, except for the mustache.

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>Playing at high TV against Dwarfs
>fukken dwarfs
>manage to score in the first half, three turns left
>One of his players is an AG 4 blitzer
>Fastest dwarf in the land
>During an action, he tries to GFI with his blitzer
>Stumbles
>Reroll
>Stumbles again, roll for injury, the dwarf fucking dies after tripping on his own feet
>mfw

>>54269428
He had 2 turns to score. Unless he had 5 skaven breathing on his neck he deserved that result. A learning experience to fear GFI.

>>54269538
The fun thing is he was not going to be able to score anyway, since his ball carrier was zoned out, but he decided to have that blitzer run along all the field, i suspect in the hope of catching a long pass

that dwarf literally died for nothing

>>54268544
Nah, in fact that particular one with a giant tentacle tongue would make a pretty good beast

Besides, the Bloodthirster when statted was s5 in cyanide bowl so his strength is in line too, the only thing that might be weird is really stupid but you could fluff it as him being a lot like a senile old grandparent

"Honoured one! We need to push the cage forward!"
"Hmm? Did I ever tell you about the little nurgling that could?"
"YES great one, but right now we are playing a match"

>>54269982
Thanks man. I've decided my next Blood Bowl tabletop team is going to be nurgle. I got an unpainted spawn from years ago from my friend but I love big Gramps too much to not use a GUO.

Cheers, fun bit of imagery there. Getting caught by his tongue though, that sounds disgusting now that I imagine it. I LOVE IT!

>>54268544

I dont believe it will fit on a 32 mm base

>>54270623
I was planning on using the standard squared base. I normally used that for my other big guys and while it was a tiny bit bigger than the square on the Blood Bowl pitch, it was still simple enough to see which square it was placed on.

>>54270763
standard big squared base* which comes with the mini.

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=985640

Why are orcs the strongest team at low tv? It's near impossible to stop them once they get rolling.

>>54273314

Nope, Orcs have a 50% win rate a lower TV.
Amazons are best at 60% winrate,
Undead 57%,
Lizardmen 56%,
Dwarf 54%,
Chaos Dwarf 54%

http://fumbbldata.azurewebsites.net/stats2.html
(you have to change it from secret league)

>>54274735
You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.

I found a couple of fun little blood bowl animations.

https://youtu.be/iNEd0PGoq8M
https://youtu.be/LMFAallDeBY

I know nothing about animation, but it looks like a lot of it is stenciled from the first couple of Super Jail episodes.

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>>54280288
those are pretty funny

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So we've got a Nurgle team, plus a Khorne team from Cyanide.

Let's see some homebrew ideas for Tzeentch and Slaanesh teams.

To get the ball rolling, perhaps Slaanesh could get a 0-2 positional with Hypnotize to represent their allure?

>>54281796
>Nurgle team
?????????????????????????????????

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>>54281829
Forgetful, anon?

>>54281796

I still don't like that Khorne team. Here's what I'd do.

>Khorne Team

0-1 Juggernauts 130k
MA5 ST5 AG1 AV10
Juggernaut, Mighty Blow, No Hands, Wild Animal, Loner, Regeneration S/GAP

0-4 Bloodletters 80k
MA6 ST3 AG1 AV8
Frenzy, Horns, Regenration, GS,AP

0-4 Khornate Warriors 90k
MA5 ST4 AG1 AV9
Frenzy, Juggernaut, GSM/AP

0-16 Pitfighters 60k
MA6 ST3 AG3 AV7
Frenzy GSM/AP

>Why are all my positionals AG1?
YOUR ATTEMPTS TO DODGE OR HANDLE THE BALL ANGER KHORNE.

ReRolls 60k. And you are going to need them.

>Slaanesh

0-1 Fiend of Slaanesh 150k
MA7 ST5 AG3 AV8
No Hands, Frenzy, Claws, Disturbing Prescence, Wild Animal, Loner SM/GPA

0-4 Warriors of Slaanesh 130k
MA8 ST3 AG4 AV8
Hypnogaze GSAM/P

0-16 Daemonettes 80k
MA7 ST3 AG4 AV7
Claws, Leap

Rerolls 50k

>Tzeentch

0-1 Greater Spawn 140k
MA3 ST8 AG1 AV9
Ball & Chain, Really Stupid, Loner, Mighty Blow, Tentacles, SM/GPA

0-2 Flamers of Tzeentch 90k
MA4 ST3 AG2 AV8
No Hands, Bombadier, Pro, GM/SAP

0-4 Warriors of Tzeentch 100k
MA5 ST4 AG3 AV9
Pro, GSM/AP

0-16 Cultists of Tzeentch 50k
MA6 ST3 AG3 AV7
Pro

I'm not sure about Slaanesh the most.

>>54282119
My ideas for a Slaanesh team has warriors more like standard Chaos with daemonettes being fast and agile but no hands.

0-2 Daemonettes 100k
MA7 ST3 AG4 AV8
Claws, No Hands, Dodge GA/SP

0-4 Warriors of Slaanesh 100k
MA6 ST4 AG3 AV8
GA/SPM

0-16 Some filler cultists 40k
MA6 ST3 AG3 AV7
G/SPAM

I think it need a little something more, maybe a big guy like yours, adding a starting skill to the warriors or more interesting linemen that are still fairly cheap.

>>54282119
>YOUR ATTEMPTS TO DODGE OR HANDLE THE BALL ANGER KHORNE.

I actually like this design choice. Khorne only wants blood and no ball handling. Pity cyanide didnt take this angle.

>4 hours to deadline
>no matches scheduled

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Got the goblin, skaven teams and the troll from GW to make a Underworld Denizens team.

Which paints would I need to paint them all and where can you buy them cheaply in the UK?

>>54282119
>>54282874

For Slaanesh I'd consider something like

0-2 Fiend Of Slaanesh 120k
Ma 6 S4 Ag3 Av8
Sidestep, Claw, Disturbing presence
GAM

0-4 Warrior Of Slaanesh 90k
Ma6 S3 Ag3 Av9
Claw
GAM

0-2 Daemonettes of Slaanesh 120k
Ma7 S3 Ag4 Av7
Dodge, Claw, Hypnotic Gaze
GA

0-16 Cultists 50k
Ma6 S3 Ag3 Av7
Thick Skull
GAM Access

60k rr

>>54286564
Jesus Christ anon I hope you got the Underworld boxed set, assuming there is one than blowing that much cash.

The best utilities for paints is your local games workshop or the GW site itself if they have them. I wouldn't know any other sort which would be suitable for GW minis besides the big GW themselves.

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>>54287135

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/The-Underworld-Creepers-bundle-2017

You forgot there aren't shipping costs in the UK for GW models in most places since they come from here. Got them all separately for about $50 total from third party retailers.

And really, no good third party paints?

>>54287326

If you're up North like me, Boyes sell the full Vallejo Model Colour and Game Colour ranges, bizarrely. Otherwise most LGSs have Citadel paints, at 10% cheaper usually, maybe another range like Army Painter too.

I wouldn't recommend craft acrylic paints at all if you only have that kind of store nearby, the pigment is generally poor.

>>54287521
Never realised Boyes was Northern.

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You'll see I've shoved us in the final Round lads, unfortunately with our massive numbers we've got a couple of ded kids at the bottom end, and one chap on holiday so I've pushed us on.

Good luck in getting that top 16 spot, there's so much that can happen

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>>54287604

I actually didn't realise they had a few as far south as the East Midlands and only a couple over the Pennines.

I'm actually quite fond of them, no idea how they stay in business when everything looks like it's from the 80s, and they cram everything from fishing gear to boiled sweets and underpants in a medium sized shop. They always have Perry Miniatures historicals in the hobby section dead cheap at mine.

>>54287606
Gj delaying the league for conceding faggots and redditors dipshit. God forbid somebody is actually forced a loss because they cant be arsed to play

>>54287791
Continue the league instead of posting your dogging map faggot

>>54287794

Aha what, last game I thought had a legit chance only took place this evening, if anything I've moved us on three hours early you meff.

>>54287794
>>54287811
Fucking hell lads, is this the one hour they let you have on the net at the spastic society.
>>54287606

>>54287794
>>54287811

>(You) in charge of looking at fumbbl

>>54287083

Yeah that looks decent.

Burp

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>>54286564

Okay, I think these were the paints used for this team:

Abaddon Black - black base

Elysian Green - Goblin and Troll skin colour
Ushabti Bone - light green layering on gobbo and troll skin

Cadian Fleshstone - Skaven skin colour
Rhinox Hide - brown fur colour

Leadbelcher - metal

Warpstone Glow - because underworld and warpstone.

And then a colour to replace the red with to be the team colour.

>>54292808

Use chaos black for the base, like everything.

dead

>>54287083
>>54282119

Been thinking on this in shower, and there's a few things I'd like to revise.

>Khorne
Give the Jugger Stand Firm and an extra 20k to price.

>Slaanesh

Taking some suggestions from >>54287083

>Fiends now ST4 and 0-2 but drop to 120k
>Warriors drop to MA7 and are now 100k
>Daemonettes lose leap, no change in price. Their skill access is GMA/SP

>Tzeentch
>Oh boy I was getting tired by this point I can see.

>Spawn is St6, same price
>Flamers are 0-1

>All Daemons should have regen.

Then I started thinking up star players for them. Including a Pink/Blue Horror called Bheends-Goens that splits into a pair called Henson and Bedges, as well as Peryton Manling and Tomb'raydi - Lord of the Rings.
Peryton can be a Khorne Warrior with Dirty Player and a Chainsaw whilst Tomb'raydi can be a Chaos Warrior with Strong Arm, Pass, Accurate and Nerves of Steel.
As for the Pink Horror, have him start as MA6 ST4 AG4 AV8 with Block, Dodge, Stand-Firm and Sidestep. Then split into a pair of Blue Horrors both with Stunty and one with MA6 ST4 AG2 AV8 Block, Stand-Firm, and the other MA6 ST2 AG4 AV8 Dodge, Sidestep.

>>54287083
How about a big guy for slaanesh?

Keeper of Secrets

M6 S5 A4 AV8
No hands, loner, claws, hypnotic gaze, disturbing presence

The drawback to his humongous stats and no bonehead/wild animal is: he doesn't have access to S skill.
I'm trying to come up with a slightly less bashy but more agile big guy, one that you need to position carefully to get the best of it

>>54297410

Uh, the Keeper does have hands. Plus, I'm not a fan of putting in any Greater Daemons into the game. Keep Slaanesh as a sort of chaotic bashy elf team.

>>54299636
why couldn't it be frogs?

>>54299745
honestly no idea. slann would have been better. maybe because they didn't want 2 teams to have a kroxigor? but they could just change the model to some frog or some shit

>>54299636
>1 armed player

>>54299745
>>54299881
GW is cutting slann, so Cyanide didn't want to put them in.

>>54299881
>maybe because they didn't want 2 teams to have a kroxigor?
so it is perfectly fine to have two teams that have trolls two teams that have ogres and two teams that have mintoaurs?

>>54299902
>two teams that have trolls
Three.
Add one to each of those if pact gets in inevitably.
And two teams with treemen.

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>>54299899
>GW is cutting slann
And who is that?

Also warhammer doesn't really have a Werewolf Faction and it is perfectly fine for Necromatic Horror to exist

>>54299976
Slann have been dropped from BB you idiot.

>>54299599
Christ that troll is big.

dead

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Man, I want these so bad. The only sculpt I'm meh on are the ghouls

>>54299745
>>54299881
>>54299899

I suspect that Slann would have been harder to make, needing new frames modelled for them. With Kislev they mostly use existing human frames, and the bear even looks like it might use the ogre skeleton.

A friend told me tonight what Dwarfs are the top-notch of teams, cause they've all the abilities

Dunno how to reply in a kind way

>>54309192
He is partially right in that they are really good at the start. But if you know how to fight dwarfs there is little they can do due to their crappy movement.

>>54309687

I'm a newbie and i never matched againts them. How i could counter?

>>54310448
Depends on what team you are playing.

>>54310483

Now i play Orcs, but i would like to build a skaven team

>>54310521
Orcs you just have to use your Black Orcs to their max to push the ST advantage. Try to get the dorfs caught up in a mosh pit and use your blitzers to pressure Runners.

Skaven you just run around and try to screen them as tight as possible.

New to miniatures and just got a Skaven team box. Any good guides for painting and which paints to use?

>>54312565
Get spray paint chaos black to start your minis. Rest is preference and sadly I dont know the names.

However I would use brown for fur, metal for armour, light brown for mouths and nob fur, red for eyes, and another colour for jerseys and team colour. Thats super basic though.

>>54309078

I still wish they'd gone full Squighoppers instead. I think they have the models and meshes for them already with the Goblin Cheerleaders don't they?

>>54163529
What's a good base for chaos dwarfs?

I bought a couple of fyreslayers bits but those guys are super TINY to the point that I'm thinking of shifting this project into an ogre or halfling team.

>>54309192
Dwarfs are very good in the bashing game because they start with a lot of skills

But if you manage to get past them you've basically already scored. Just take care in hittinmg his weak players

If you play a bashy team, kill the troll slayers and blitzers and keep the rest occupied on the front like while your ball carriers runs around them

If you play a dodgy, ball handling team, kill the runners and screen the rest until he's either forced to pass or his ball carrier is open for a blitz

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Bump with Shakespearean Orc

>>54315079

Thx anon

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Nice.

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Phat hamster

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To Nurgle or not to Nurgle.

>>54320680
Best

Currently about to start my third league at my flgs.

Played first one as Khemri, second one as Lizards. What should I play next?

>>54322966

Chaos.

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>>54322966

>>54322966
Go Chaos.

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>>54323142

Remember the matching miniatures: http://www.sukubusstudio.com/witches-team

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>>54322966

Well, you could always try one of the new Games Workshop test teams.

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Orc bump

>>54326441

Savage Orcs look like a decent way to represent a Khorne team with all the frenzy. I don't like the lack of general skills on the linemen, but the cheaper re-rolls are nice.

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>>54328911

Yes, but it'd be nice if they used the Cyanide team verbatim.

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>>54326441

Pestilent Vermin team looks like a lot of fun, hire the ball and chain star player for 100k and 20k a game for the full Clan Pestilens theme.

Someone also made a skill guide for the team.

Anyone know what time today Games Workshop gets stock back in?

>>54329380

Do you think the Cyanide team is better? Conceptually or by their strength as a team?

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>>54329760

Both are fine themes, and the Khorne team is stronger overall as Savage Orcs are Orcs that cost more, have less armour while being given frenzy.

>>54329805

Well, Khorne get general access and GAS on the daemons without frenzy and the best Big Guy in the game.

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Soon we will have the dancing bear and leaping men.

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Pre-orders are up for the dice (except dwarf) on Games Workshops website and third party retailers. Goblin dice, skaven dice (improved versions it seems, the markings are clearer), human alt and orc alt.

GW only have the dice but third parties have the dice, dwarf dice and the dwarf and skaven pitch.

>>54331786
oh god, i need the crooked moon die

>>54326441
The Human Noble team is such garbage. Not in terms of strength but just design. Guard is such a strong ability, you can't have that just slung onto the base roster in that large of an amount.

>4 Bodyguards
>6 Retainers
>1 Thrower (or 5 retainers, 2 throwers)
>2 RR

Wow good team you now beat the fuck out of any base S3 team. But then you look at the Princelings. 110k for what? They clearly want this thing to be a receiver but it's on an A3 team. it has potential for growth but it has 7AV. It's not like a Witch or a Dancer where they can actively provide other benefits and still be a receiver. Pro is just bloat on this thing too, it already has dodge and catch so it has inbuilt rerolls already. What are you you rerolling with pro that often? You blocking with it? The risky GFI with 50% chance to reroll? What kind of jackass team is this? The Bret team was already shaky and then it mutated into this, good lord.

>>54332728

But muh 2 Ogres

>>54331786
As someone who has the original skaven dice, I am pissed that GW didn't do the markings on the 6's from the start. Now my old dice feel inferior (though those pics of the new dice look like the green is a little duller, might just be bad photo lighting)

Rolled 6 (1d6)

gfi

>>54332728

Or go full strength and screw everything else:

>2 Ogres
>4 Bodyguards
>4 Retainers
>1 Thrower
>0 RR, because screw safety nets.

Hangman's Hill Hollows vs Draw A Boy
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=986602