Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1590: Lazy Basterds Edition

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>>54116208
You're a towel.

>>54116231
I sure hope somebody takes me hitchhiking!

I like sandwiches

Anyone who complains about proposed jumps like 'Towergirls' for being lewd when there are SFW versions to base jumps off of is a shitposter.
Not to mention we allow things like ecchi based jumps which are a lot more lewd than a SFW CYOA that has a nsfw spin-off and lewd options in body mod.

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Tell me about the Great Potato Crisis War

>>54116264
Is there a SFW version of the CYOA without magical dildos?

I personally wish we could have a towergirls jump because I enjoy busty goblins but I think the magic dildos (and similar content) put some people off. Maybe if someone could discover some precedent of an essence powered dildo from Exalted or something it'd be fine.

So...I get the impression from last thread and the only build for the jump that a Genius is much, much, much more dangerous than the other splats to compensate for otherwise being squishy humans. How do they compare to Mages?

>>54116282
Good men died on both sides, for bad reasons. My grandpa, he told me in the last days of the war they ate the British after an argument over chips vs fries. That wasn't the darkest hour. That was when the damn Krauts stole our ketchup.

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>>54116316
I'm a mayo fan, so no big loss.

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How does one become a goat o mancer?

>>54116296
Do shape-shifting assassin automatons that can also be waifus count? Cause those are a thing.

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So, posting for Rose here as well because she's lazy, but here's some updates on Tyranids and Bastard!!

https://pastebin.com/6qPkWDQT
Norn Queen perks are done.

https://pastebin.com/bc5FHb0q
Bastard drawbacks are done.

>>54116329
get as much 600 perks from the goat simulator as you can

>>54116338
I did my homework on this Dark Schneider guy.

Dis motherfucker's a lategame Jumper isn't he?

>>54116329
Find some goats in Goat Simulator jump

'mance them

Be prepared for society to judge you for the rest of your life

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>>54116298
> How do they compare to Mages?
Funny you should ask! They're actually roughly comparable. The primary difference being source and technical execution. In fact, according to TVTropes, it's actually not totally uncommon for technologically inclined Mages to be mistaken for Geniuses, and more mystically inclined Geniuses to be mistaken for Mages. When the mistake is eventually caught, there's some awkward shuffling and the newbie is kicked over to the proper side by his peers.

Genius CAN be extremely dangerous, because geniuses can potentially wield a lot of terrible power, and there's some crazy shit out there when your powers are essentially born from creativity and manic theories.
On the other hand, most (important distinction: "most") geniuses are still human, and if you can catch them off guard they'll fall to a bullet same as any other.
You just might have to get past a bunch of nazis or robot zombie monkeys or a Big Brother surveillance system first, depending on who you're after and what Bardo they're in.

Bardos being basically alternate pocket dimensions spawned from disproven theories and unrealized futures. Some of those can be pretty crazy.

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>>54116329

>>54116338
>Hungry Hungry

That biomass perk is goddamn badass. As written, it sounds like it even allows for minor shapeshifting if you can go from being a fatfuck to a hungry skellington at will. I'd say its easily worth 400 (especially for a 'nid) because of how much of their mutations is dedicated to supporting the reat of their biomass unless you just have it be generally packing on less pounds than you normally would (which I assume was the intention) rather than having an endless nullspace for personal meat. Maybe just a really good self regulating metabolism?

>>54116366
Which axiom is best for energy production?

>>54116397
Uh, no, no shapeshifting involved. It basically just means that instead of having to store it all inside of you, you can just store it in a nonphysical space. Once you take it out, you still need to digest or process it. Like...having a giant refrigerator in your stomach that holds all the meat. When you wanna eat something, you still need to actually eat it, it just doesn't take up any space in your actual kitchen.

In terms of usefulness to a nid...not as much as you might think to any of the nids the jump focuses on. For a harvesting organism, it's fucking crazy good. But most of the ones you're going to be in the jump are combat or command focused ones, where storing lots of biomass isn't that great for them, no more then it is for any biological being. Even the Norn Queens, it's mostly just cutting down on the time they spend eating instead of creating, since it doesn't make them able to process or use it any faster.

>>54116422
It just sounds likehas some crazy utility involved because if you can instantly move the mass iide and out of you at will it makes it much easier to work out for whatever body shape is most ideal for doing stuff. Not to mention never dying from indigestion or poison again, if you're quick enough to shunt the affected meat out of you

I don't know, it could just be me but it seems extraordinarily versatile for a 100 CP perk which I'm pretty sure nids dont have in canon

>>54116365
>Dis motherfucker's a lategame Jumper isn't he?

More like mid-game, but yeah.

>>54116338
>Bastard drawbacks are done.

So, it's done? Because last time I heard about the Jump, it was finishing the items.

>>54116434
Ah, you're misunderstanding. The biomass isn't digested or instantly drained of nutrients. Once you bring it back in, it just plops back into your mouth or throat or whatever and has to be digested as normal. If you want it, you still need to have all the organs and bits needed to eat and digest things, otherwise you're not even going to be able to activate the perk. If you're this lifeform so specialise for combat that you don't have a stomach, then you're not going to have any way to digest the biomass and if you don't have a mouth/throat/intestines, you're not even going to be able to put it in the space because you're missing a way to eat it.

It's basically like a interdimensional picnic basket. You still need to eat and digest the food as normal.

Also I think I haven't made it clear enough that it's only for biomass you eat and I'm only just realised it can be taken to apply to any of their biomass, which is definitely not the purpose. Oops.

>>54116452
No, Rose is still stuck on that one last item she was last time. All I did was keep writing in the fluff and giving it to her/posting it myself at her behest when the fluff for various sections was done.

>>54116282
>>54116464
>Rose is still stuck on that one last item she was last time
Huh, what item was that?

Also, speaking of Tyranids, what would be the limit distance between you and your synaptic units (based on Super Synapse) before you lose control of them? How would it work in places like Warhammer when you can use the Warp to relay the messages?

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>>54116406
Like just straight electricity? That's actually a pretty difficult question. Wonders require Mania to function (unless you're using that one perk from the jump, in which case it requires "Innovation"), so at best you could create a Wonder that, in using its Mania, does something that you can siphon for power. After that, it's really kindof up to your particular brand of fluff, because there isn't one geared towards exactly that.

So, you could make a Katastrofi cannon that fires electricity in huge bursts into a battery that in turn powers other less fantastical machinery, or an Automata series of pistons that runs all the time, powering movement like an engine. But they would both run off of Mania themselves, which would mean that you would have to constantly maintain them, because Mania comes from Geniuses.

Honestly, this is one of those things that you're actually probably better off using mundane or out-of-jump science for, at least initially. But that doesn't mean it's impossible.
With sufficient axioms you could maybe use Skafoi to call bits of starstuff into reactors and siphon them for energy. Though you'd probably want a lot of Prostata Shielding to contain them. Or Metaptropi to turn stuff into energy, because somethingsomething energy cannot be created or destroyed so instead you'll just turn things into energy somethingsomething SCIENCE!

You just have to be creative, anon. Genius is a really open ended game. That's why it and Mage are comparable.

>>54116406
I think the axiom depends on what the energy is for. Making energy by itself has no purpose, and the axioms are segregated by purpose.

So a genius makes a battery for a death ray as a side effect of Katastrophi.
They upgrade their current spaceship with a new generator via an Exelixi upgrade.
They make an energy tap that redirects energy from the national power grid into their own devices via Epikrato (and probably also requires Apokalypsi and Katastrophi).
They tap artificial pockets of entropy via Skafoi.
In any case the amount of power is entirely abstract until they try to do something with it - and then the relevant axiom comes into play.

>>54116498
Fairly sure it's the Horseman 100cp item.

Probably around the same sort of planet area? So on the planet and maybe nearby moons? It's a pretty beefy area. If you have a way to transport your signals further, it'd depend mostly on how far you can reliably transfer the signals then any hardcap on how far.

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Aside from Hive Queen Quest, what perks allow for between teamwork and synergy when working in a group to develop something?

Grupal magic rituals would also be appreciated.

>>54116329
Hero BBS, PS 238 And high school DXD Have custom magic system options.

>>54116406

So, I'm going to assume "electricity" here...
As >>54116499 and >>54116503 pointed out, Wonders operate on Mania.
If I were to want a generator of electricity for some reason, I'd build a capacitor into a wonder of Automata to make a pseudo-perpetual motion generator. Charge the capacitor with Mania (to mitigate any time I needed to spend away from it) and let it do it's thing via magnets and coils...

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Have you ever weaponized food /jc/?

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>>54116644
That is a very, very thin line already.

>>54116644
My companions have more than once went full-on tench warfare against one another over leftovers of food I personally cooked.
Does that count?

>>54116644
Yeah, I went Sauceror in Kingdom of Loathing. Combined with the Season City Quirk, from My Hero Academia (enhanced by three purchases Empowered Quirk), I can manipulate and wield my various Sauces and such freely, and can move them at such speeds as to effectively serve as pressure cutting jets. I can also do really goofy stuff by cooking it with Hamon and my trusty Saucepan Hand. The Holy Grail Relic from Symphogear is the source of all my other utensils and such. All this is wrapped up together by a Sauce-based Martial I gained in Kung-Fu Panda.

>>54116644
I've poisoned/spiked a lot of food if that counts.

Usually with that perk from Black Dynamite that lets you make compounds that change the size of bodyparts in given demographics. Suddenly impractically large tits/dicks is one solution to the enemy army problem.

>>54116644
I assassinated Eidolon by way of poisoned food, if that counts.

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Genius: The Transgression
> Age: 20 [Rolled3]
> Location: London, England
> Origin: Lemurian [-200CP]
> Inspiration (x3) [Get a Freebie!]
> Wonderous Creations [Get a Freebie!]
> A Prized Aesthetic: 『Solarpunk』 [Get a Freebie!]
> Pankosmoi, The Needle Grail [-400CP]
> Ride The Winds of Inspiration [-200CP]
> Archweltanschaaung [Get a Freebie!]
> Fools! I Will Take Over the World! Ask Me How! [-200CP]
> I AM RIGHT! You However... [-300CP]
> Wondrous Devices (x3) [Get a Freebie!]
> The Forbidden Truth [Get a Freebie!]
> An Iron Fist, Clothed In Velvet [-200CP]
> Big Think [-100CP]
> Jumper, The Truth Is Out There [Get a Freebie!]
> Ham On! [+100CP]
> Hollow Men (x2) [+200CP]
> Anchor [+300CP]
> + A ͝Pr̢ized̵ ̸Ae̡st̕he͘t͜ic: ͟███████ [Free.]

[--]
> "Where are we?" Vera asked.
> "We're in London!" I said, spinning around in my swivel chair as I held a cat.
> "Oh shit." Said Elodie, recognizing the gleam in my eye.

Listen, listen, listen, listen. Listen.
I'm here to tell you that Lemuria is not the bad guy. I mean, sure, there was that whole thing with the lizard people, but that's in the past! Now Lemuria is all about DISCOVERY! We help Geniuses find their place in the world! We help make the world a better place!
And though our disparate views may seem incompatible to the untrained eye, they are all but facets of Genius! With our theories combined, we may someday understand the truth of this world! Just as soon as we understand ourselves.
Or possibly everything else.

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Have you ever used the plot-armor of the protagonist to achieve your goals by misleading them?

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>>54117150
> Wondrous Devices (x3) [Get a Freebie!]
> 1) Universal Remote Control (Not Pankosmoi Protected)
> 2) Synthesized "Joy" Tablets
> 3) ████████████

Of course, Lemurians also have a reputation for getting a little... callous. But they're just focused on the bigger picture. Sometimes you have to be the bad guy, in order to not be the bad guy.
Take me, for instance. A few lifetimes ago, I was a vampire! That was a scary time, because at the time, there just so happened to be a lot of robots going around, firing solar beam weaponry, and hunting down vampires! You probably heard about it, it was this big purge. I hear ninety percent of the world's vampires actually died! But there are still a few blasted holdouts.
But I bet you'll never guess who was behind those Solarpunk-styled Automato-- oh. You already gue-- NO. Shut up! I was going to do this whole, "IT WAS ME, BARRY" schtick, and you ruined it, you asspipe! Fine! I don't even care anymore.
I'm leaving.

I have a Phenomenologist meeting to get to, anyway.

Why the fuck does this keep showing up in my Bardo? I put a lot of work into making it look pretty, and this is████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████decay███████████████
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it's like I'm looking right at

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>>54117150
Elodie was right, wasn't she?

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What servants are a good fit for a solar twilight exalt as the master?

>>54117233
Does plot armor even exist after you create butterflies by interacting with the plot?

Reposting my jump notes since I posted it in the dead hours of the thread.

Give me all the feedback you can give!

https://pastebin.com/yTrTw2B

>>54117344
I believe it's up to fanwank.
Some people like to believe that plot armor is an actual physical force, while others treat it as just pure luck at best.

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>>54116644
I am learned in the ways of making Dwarf bread, yes. Nothing ruins a Chaos warband's appetite for destruction like being whacked upside the head with a croissant with the density and texture of granite.

>>54117233
I put a bunch of cakes in a dotted line in order to lure Kirby through several portals, bypassing several level bosses and taking the final boss nightmare thing by surprise.

Does that count?

>>54117150
But...what about the Nazis living in the Hollow Earth?

I just realised my lunatic plan to attack the cosmic oppresion of the Exarchs by combining the hopes and dreams of would-be scientists who believe in a better future through inductive reasoning-shooting a laser made of Mania blended with heroism energy, basically-probably shouldn't include the Nazis.

How do I politely tell Nazis to not be Nazis when we're piercing the heavens with our collective faith in SCIENCE!?

>>54117371
>this page has been removed

...repent, sinner?

>>54117382
Weird, anyway here's a new one https://pastebin.com/csvGGqxZ

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>>54117265
Elodie's a worrywart! I'm a good Genius! I made cheap, effective renewable energy while I was here! I actually improved the world a little bit! Again!

And by "Again!" I am of course referring to the mass destruction of Vampires I performed in Vampire: The Requiem, because seriously, fuck those guys.
I don't care if robots walking through the streets firing solar beams isn't stealthy! It's better, damnit!
And then she has the gall to ask questions like, "Why are trees just growing through houses now? How are people okay with this?" WHATEVER! I think it looks better this way!
Or, "Why are you collecting so much silver?"
Because the wolves are next.

>>54117376
Pierce the Earth with your drill, Battler! Let no one stand in your way!

>>54117329
Um... any of them? Unless they're like, opposed to sunlight.

>>54117408
>Imago Dei

I'm not sure how to feel about the implication there that being Jumper makes you like God...

Exactly how much in your likeness are we talking here? And do you just mould them out of dirt or have to make them out of your rib?

>The Flaming Sword

Since you are not, in fact, the will of God it should probably be able to be able to be put out by things other than your will. Just very tricky to. Also double damage is very hard to define when you're not talking about a videogame, does it cut people twice?

>>54112896
Is Peter Pan supposed to have two entries?

>>54117408
The stuff about Jumper being from outside of creation makes me feel like Drop-in should get a perk based around not having original sin, but I have no idea what that would even do.

Has anyone started work on a Nier: Automata jump?

Are there any perks that keep you from falling through the floor due to being too heavy? Such as if you are a shoggoth who has condensed their body to the size and shape of a human?

>>54117589
I think Val is making it.

>>54117589
Yup, Valeria has.

What would be a fitting subspecious Balance Breaker for the True Longinus in Highschool DxD? The canon one doesn't really fit with a weapon that has such a strong relationship with christianity. According to a cursory google search, the numbers 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 10, and 12 all have some kind of meaning, so the number of powers has a big leeway, but I wouldn't know what they actually should be.

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There's a few historical jumps out there, but are there any jumps about periods of prehistory?

>>54117589
Yeah, working on one. Only need one more perk and a few drawbacks before I can start writing up the fluff for it.

>>54117826
Damnit, now I have to go watch that again.

Apart from that one foundation item in the genius transgression jump, are there ways of spreading the Inspiration around, safety optional?

>>54117344
Depends on the setting. Many 'fantasy' jumps actually have destiny as a universal force or god. And there are settings like A Practical Guide to Evil, Exalted, Umineko or Discworld where the narrative is a thing that you can even weaponize.

>>54116296
The Sidereals jump literally offers dildos forged from dead gods.

>>54116296
>Heavenly Ecstasy Aides [100CP, free Chosen of Serenity]- The Exalted worked the magical
materials into tools to aid mortals in all arenas of life. ALL arenas. Including the bedroom. This chest contains all the Starmetal forged toys, costuming, and refilling bottles of ointments and oils that you could ever need to while away an evening. These have even been blessed by Venus herself so that they will bring greater pleasure the more you care for your partner. Don't worry Vizier, I won't judge you for ordering this one. We all need a little relaxation now and then. Maybe you could call your dear friend Paluvu over to test them out? Keep it in mind.

>Starmetal forged toys

So yeah we have precedence on essence powered dildos.

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Has anyone tried to make their own Exaltations yet now that Solars offers the possibility? What were their themes?

>>54118169
I'm thinking of ramming them full of Spiral Power from Gurren Laggan and the power of the President of the United States of America from Metal Wolf Chaos.

>>54118169
Wait we have a Solar Exalted jump? I checked the folder earlier but all I saw Lunar, Terrestrial, Infernal, and Sidereal.

>>54118256
It's still a WIP, but it's jumpable. Check three or four threads back for the latest version.

>>54118169
I decided to go a more creative route and make a form of modified Infernal exaltation that I could give to someone, being riden by one of my third circles, with one of my graces fused with the exaltation.
The idea was to allow someone to become a devil-tiger in their own right, while being attached to me, becoming a sort of secondary devli-tiger within my greater one, and being balanced and constrained along with the other three by my Grace's influences and steered/guided by my loyal third circle acting as a coadjutor.
I'm still working on the idea.

>>54118169
I made ones based on the concept of Piety and Obedience, 'case damn it all, I want exalts I can properly control and direct, not lone wolves and those with contrary agendas!

>>54118187
Hmm. Would giving Solars, Hamon/Ripple be worth it I wonder?

>>54118341
That sounds metal as all hell, but what does it really gain you?

>>54118409
Well, for the cost of losing/tying-up one of my thrid circles, losing access to my Grace and the costs associated with making a Celestial-grade Exlatation, I gain... eh, a set of 4 charm trees from the sub-DTs, the loyalty(?) of their third circles, which may be forced to be weaker than my own due to the setup, and the ability to rub it in Theion/Malfeas' face.
"Oh, you have two fetiches, do you? How impressive. But then, I'm such a great primordial, that I," ~opens trench coat~ "Have four other primordials inside me!"
i suppose if you also make some custom charms or include such charms in your charm tree, you could make some facets of your nature benefit from having more third circles under your authority somehow.
Like I said, I'm still working on the idea.

Okay so considering that an exaltation is a "item" does that mean that something like delineated crafting from terraria would work to Show you how to build it?

>>54116328
Gintama jump when?

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>>54118169
I started somewhere between Infernals and Sidereals, actually. Infernals was right after Gurren Lagann-in which I spent a decade being genuinely happy and making lifelong friendships with Team Dai-Gurren.

In hindsight, my decision to make Spiral Exaltations was some sort of internalised catharsis. Both because of that, and having seen the injustices inflicted on the Primordials. Bottom line: I trapped the bleak perfection of the Daystar in a host of cruicibles that honed it into the evolution, friendship and creation those experiences burned into my soul. While forging them, I did all in my power to improve on the basic design of the Exaltation-mainly by letting it run off things other than Essence, accelerating Charm learning times with wish science and granting synergy effects absent from most Infernal Exaltations.

Then I exploited the inherent backdoor that the Great Curse exploited to /become/ the Exaltations in a sense.

...also in hindsight, I MIGHT have been a little crazed from rebuilding my own sense of self right before attempting this.

https://pastebin.com/AvxUyh2C

>>54118169
How does it let you make them?

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Aside from Primordial Psychologist (Infernals) and Perfect Communication Skills (Worm), what other perks are there that give you a charisma bonus when communicating with Eldritch beings?

>>54118859
It lets you make soul augmentations that could eventually (thousands of years if no other perks or extra-help are added) be as good Exaltations.

>>54118926
I didnt see that perk, could you point a name out? Im looking for it now.

>>54118959
Its the capstone boosted perk, I believe its taking unconquered with the twilight capstone.

>>54119034
Almost, you take it with the scholar cap.

>>54118169
Once and nothing.

I was trying to make them before Solars came out, with a fairly complicated-ass set-up of perks that I wasn't even sure if they'd work 90% of the time until I had another thing to tie two things together.

Then apparently everybody and their grandmother got the ability to make them with as little effort as cutting a birthday cake, and now I'm disregarding the whole idea because I'm a completely and utterly Bitter Betty.

My Marines are better than Exaltations anyway.

>>54118902
Psychonautics from Psychonauts, no duh, helps you understand how to deal with entities with truly alien minds.

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>>54116644
I mean... I suppose a number of my food-based inventions /could/ be used as food. But they weren't really intended to be weapons. If you know what I mean.

Except the Ghost Pepper Gas Grenade. Because sometimes you just need to blind everyone in a room.

Are there any jumps that let you use a monster's soul as a component for a weapon or item to use some of its powers?

>>54119456
>Are there any jumps that let you use a monster's soul as a component for a weapon or item to use some of its powers?
Their soul? I don't know. But Tokyo Ghoul has a perk that lets you turn the physical components of creatures into weapons.

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>>54116644
In my experience the path to mens heart lies through there stomach. It is therefore sacrilege to intentionally create WCD or weapons of culinary destruction.

Now in saying that, there have been mistakes made in the past.

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Travelers,
When have you sought total destruction of something. Of everything?
and how did you achieve such a goal?

>>54118169
Writer Nika spent Infernals experimenting on shitty people trying to come up with exaltations. They weren't successful about it, but they did learn a lot of stuff about how to empower and fiddle with the soul.

>>54119456
bayonetta, and Castlevania immediately spring to mind.

Is there a mabinogi jump?

>>54119638
Nope.

>>54119526
Zephie trained for twelve jumps specifically to kill the shit out of Gilgamesh.

>>54118902
Cthullu saves the world I think has a perk like that.

>>54119526
I'm currently making a jump just so I can destroy a character in it. It will be glorious.

>>54119526
>>54119817
>>54119899
Why are you guys so hateful?

Are Geniuses from nWoD like Tinkers from Worm?

>>54119950
No Tinkers from Worm use actual science

>>54119950
Tinkers do actual science. Just overly complex science that their power deliberately obscures.

>>54119936
Because this is a character that demands they be hated by any good and decent person.

>>54119965
>>54119983
Doesn't Pankosmoi, the Needle Grail, make Mad Science real science?

>>54119994
Naruto as written by Perfect Lionheart?

>>54120010
yeah, but in general it's going to be a mix mostly leaning towards the power of magic

>>54120023
Worse. Gilgamesh by Nasu!

>>54120023
No, though they are from a fanfic. You wouldn't know the character if I said their name, this jump is really just to satisfy me. I'm not sure I'd even show it to the thread.

I know I did Solars a while back but we cool fit if I did the theft and crafting roles now?

>>54120010
Well, yes. But finding the Needle Grail the hard way isn't terribly likely, and you asked about Geniuses in general.

>>54120053
Oh, come on anon. I'm sure we'd all have a good time punching whoever you're talking about.

>>54119526
/Pol/.

I turned them all into various minorities and sent them back to Nazi Germany.

>>54120102
Okay.... and how does the needle allow a Genius' work to become reproducible? If there's no solid answer or WoG, please provide your explanation.

>>54120108
Fuck you, man. I'm neither an authoritarian nor am I a racist. I just post 'don't step on me' memes.

>>54120108
>tfw leftypol and all the shills got gassed
Good job anon.

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>>54120169
you mean like this one?

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>>54120169
>>54120212
or more like this one?

>>54120142
Pankosmoi is ostensibly the Axiom of Axioms, a meta-Axiom that allows for the manipulation of Mania and Inspiration directly. It's that function which would allow it to make Wonders reproducible, by preventing Havoc and thereby allowing non-Geniuses to interact with them without the magic going away, and to eliminate the need for Mania to make a Wonder and therefore make its construction available to mundane scientists.

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Are you living your life by the Sith Code?

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>>54120212
>Arts
Don't particularly care for cultural highlights, classical or otherwise.
>>54120246
You were never one of the smart kids at school, were you?

>>54120212
>>54120246
This coming from a man who supports genocide.

>>54120328
I was homeschooled, So yes I was the smartest kid in my class.

>>54120328
Art is probably the most important of them all. Art makes life worth it

>>54120362
Touché
>>54120371
Sustainable hedonism makes my life worth living, Anon.

>>54120371
Passion and conviction make life worth living. Sometimes that's expressed through art, sometimes other things.

>>54120318
Well, I've been reading the Bane trilogy. And if I have to hear the Code or the Rule of Two one more time, I'm wiping out the Sith and replacing them

>>54120362
There are days when one wonders if this is an elaborate ruse or if Bancho is actually out there.

>>54120433
I take it you won't be Jumping FU's Jump?

>>54120452
You're not the only one anon.

>>54120456
Oh, I'll be jumping it. I may not like the way the author writes the story, but I still love Star Wars.

>>54120452
let me know if you ever figure out a way you can test the difference and I will be glad to confirm my existence.

>>54120406
Anything done with Passion and Conviction could be described as an Art.

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>>54120470
I want it so I can buy Twi'lek slaves (male ones)

>>54120318
I'm sympathetic to the "power to break your chains" angle, but the rest of the hierarchy doesn't really speak to me.

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>>54120348
yes, Of evil.
>>54120528
you hundred percent sure on that?

>>54120528
That art looks kind of familiar.
Source?

>>54120556
Not an ugly breed, of course. What kind of slave owner do you think I am? One with no taste?

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>>54120586
>What kind of slave owner do you think I am?

one who doesn't realize sexual Dimorphism is a thing.

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>>54120528
Is there anything wrong with a Jumper owning slaves?

>>54120668
Yea, they're nowhere near as efficient or effective as robotic minions and AI.

>>54120668
Depends on what you're using them for, how you acquired them, and how you're treating them.

>>54120668
it is wrong for anyone to own slaves,slavery is inherently wrong

>>54120668
After one reaches a point, slavery is impractical.

They require feeding and housing, lest they die and you run out of them.
They have exhaustion and other limitations of the body.
If they lose a limb or suffer an injury, unless your medical tech is decent they're going to be out for a while.
They age, and with age comes loss of qualities and physical parameters that were why you bought them in the first place.

>>54120687
Tell that to the Ancient Greeks and Romans.

>>54120685
Under a fair system with plenty of oversight, slavery would just be a form of contractual employment. Of course, you could argue that if you went so far, it wouldn't be slavery anymore.

>>54120718
I did, there was this whole war about it.

>>54116338
Is there a limit on how much biomass can be stored with Hungry, Hungry Tyrannids?

Does Leaving the Nest have a range?

This looks good, how many other backgrounds are there and how far along are they?

>>54120718
>Under a fair system with plenty of oversight

>and then one adds Humanity into the mess.

>>54120682
>Implying a Jumper needs robotics minmions when they have MAGIC

>>54120715
>Implying that those limitations matter for someone who wields the MAGIC

>>54120718
That's what I was thinking. Given the means available to most Jumpers, unless you're intentionally treating your "slaves" like shit, they probably have more safety and opportunity for success and growth and happiness then they could ever have if they weren't involved with you.

>>54120741
>>54120718
>Tell that to the Ancient Greeks and Romans.

Daily reminder that freeing too many slaves was one of the main reasons of Rome's fall.

>>54120762
If you have magic then why the fuck do you have slaves.

You can literally just magic everything.

Hell, magic can create golems and spirits that're basically the equivalent of fucking robotics and AI.
We come to the point again, if it being impractical to have slaves because you can accomplish more, rendering the point of having a slave utterly moot.

>>54120792
really? I thought it was having a government that didn't scale well combined with aggressive expansionism

>>54120805
Anon said
>one of
Bancho.
He's not arguing it was the sole reason.

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>>54120318
No, I'm living it by the original Jedi Code. I'm afraid I might cut myself on the Sith Code.

>>54120821
okay because I don't remember The list of major reasons Though,but it has been a while since I read those books.

>>54120805
Freeing slaves was bad because they were unlikely to be employed again in an economy based on slaves laboring the field. Also, slaves trend to come from conquered regions and they came with their own religions and cultures.

So, you have unemployed, hungry and angry people with a non-Roman mentality.

>>54120318
I refuse to start shopping for my clothes at Hot Topic or whatever edgy-emo store the Sith shop at nowadays.

>>54120853
>Jedi Code

Yet how many of them actually followed that shit?
That Code doesn't read at all what they practiced.

>>54120668
No but
>>54120682
>>54120715
Do have some valid points.

What do you plan on using your slaves for?

>>54120868
Also, when I say non-Roman mentality I'm not suggesting that it's the best, but their nationalism certainly helped to keep the massive empire as a whole even when usually unemployment and poverty was the norm in the city of Rome since they days of the Republic.

>>54120907
Eye candy.

>>54120868
It's crap like this that made Makes my Jumper struggle to do away with traditional notions of economies

>>54120891
The original Jedi Code was held as an ideal, not as something to be followed exactingly. It's basically saying that a Jedi should remain in control of their own actions even if they are overcome by emotion or put into difficult situations. It's also saying that a Jedi should not fear death because they are guided by the will of the Force and will live forever through it.

>>54120891
He said original. The code the Jedi are known for and the Sith code split from that old ass version.

>>54120891
That's the old Jedi Code my dude. Some Jedi led some kind of reform and changed the Code into the one they follow in the movies, which is the one that emphasizes detachment.

>>54120802
My slaves usually come from soul eating, so I guess I gain a boost from having them.

>>54120907
>What do you plan on using your slaves for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybq-eP0Uq8M

>>54120976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMNWAJiz5Y

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>>54120715
Feeding & housing slaves is no problem. For most jumpers food & housing is simple.

Exhaustion can be remedied easily. Give them some nanomachines or just not caring. After all if you have slaves who's just there to show how awesome you are. Them dying in mass just proves your might.

There's always more slaves. If you have one that got themselves injured so badly they need to be taken care of, then your best bet is to replace the slave. Unless its an expensive one.

That's why you breed your slaves to get a fresh supply of labor.

Slavery is inefficient but gives you power & prestige. IMHO only have house slaves, scantly clad attractive looking servants. Modified to stop aging past a certain point, long life cycle, quick pregnancy, immunity to disease/poisons, and regeneration.

IRL Slavery was a thing because heavy labor was in great need. So conquering others & forcing them to do the labor saves you from doing it yourself. In Ancient times slavery was also a good way to increase your social standing. Even if you're a slave, you get garunteed food & shelter. Which wasn't always garunteed as a free person.

>>54121109
>IRL Slavery was a thing because heavy labor was in great need.

There are literally more than 160 ways to create a workforce that is not reliant on slavery in JumpChain, and is more effective and more practical in the long run. The only reason you could conceivably want slaves at this point is if you get a raging boner from being in a position of dominance over others - and there's BDSM for that, honey-buns.

I have no idea why I'm arguing this given you deliberately go for the most contrarian interpretation.

>>54121109
>Slavery is inefficient but gives you power & prestige.

Know what else gives power and prestige?

Giant robots.

Checkmate slave-owners.

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>>54119817
IDK when someone kills the love of your life and doesn't kill you as well because to them it would be like killing an ant, you kind of get, you know? Avenging the one who killed your loved ones and all.

>>54121185
I meant to respond to this >>54119936

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>>54121167
>Not slaving a giant girl and using her a mech

Your move

>>54119526
I occasionally mess with, humiliate, and/or destroy Mary Sue characters or characters that ping that radar.

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>>54121150
Nice cherry picking. I already said it's inefficient & like you pointed out there's better ways of getting labor in chain. However in real life (IRL) before industrial revolution slavery was needed for the fact it's free heavy labor.

>>54121167
True. However nothing says power like literally owning another sapient being. Having their life & death dependent on your whim.

Giant Robots are nice though.
https://youtu.be/x7PjQnw_E0U

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>>54120318
No.

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>>54121150
Does creating creatures with free-will but still using them as objects wouldn't also count as slavery?

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>>54121217
If I'm going to use a giant girl as a mech, I'll use one of these

>>54120406
Passion is a lie. Conviction is a lie.

There is only Death.

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>>54121260
>Hating Mary Sues
>Being on Jumpchain

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>>54121217
>using a biological base for a giant mecha
>Not having your luxury vehicle or pimped-out ride converted into a mecha

>>54121285
You have good taste, Tamerai. Tsumugi is best girl. And unlike a lot of series, best girl won in Sidonia.

>>54121150
Look. When it comes down to it, the only reason the /jc/-goers you're arguing with advocate slavery is because most of these people have never been in a position of dominance or power-over-others, and want that desperately.

You can argue practicality and efficiency till the sun burns out, but you won't convince anyone if it interferes with the power fantasy.

>>54121299
It's entirely possible to hate yourself, anon.

Thanks to various harem perks my companions are slaves in all but name. My personal AI is practically a slave. As a Devil-Tiger my lessor souls could be considered slaves. When my chain is finished I plan on creating a group bodyguards like the Custodes who are completely loyal to me. The population of the world I plan on conquering are slaves even though I plan on letting them do whatever they want.

>>54121347
>Look. When it comes down to it, the only reason the /jc/-goers you're arguing with advocate slavery is because most of these people have never been in a position of dominance or power-over-others, and want that desperately.
Is that so wrong?

>>54121299
well after you clean the universe of such creatures you must, in the end, take the life of the only sue left...you.

>>54121362
I find it pathetic, but you know what? That's just my opinion, anon. You do you.

I was just telling the other guy that arguing the point only did so much before he was better off dropping the subject.

>>54121299
I am great because of my powers and abilities. I am still limited unlike stories where the plot shapes itself to allow the MC to accomplish impossible things.

>>54121347
>being such a tool that you want to enslave somebody in order to feel powerful
>not becoming a literal god and creating an entire plane of existence so that infinite oceans of people can worship you and feed your smug self-satisfaction for giving them life and happiness
Plebs need to go.

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>>54121347
Isn't that the point of this game? To picture us gaining something that we don't have?

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>>54121416
>I am still limited

>>54121416
>I'm still limited
>Can't accomplish impossible things

Then you either can't kill them, or you are lying to yoursefl and are really a sue

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What does your government file say? Who briefs the powers that be on what threats you represent to their interests, and what do they say?

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Who needs slavery when rapestating is possible again?

>>54121397
Nigga this entire thing is pathetic. Their powerplay nonsense is a drop in the bucket.

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>>54121493
>What does your government file say?

Look behind you

>>54121493
I'm not a threat. Yet.

Sure, I have a dragon clipped to my belt, but I mostly use her to fly from place to place. If they know about her, they already know she likes bacon.

>>54121518
Rapestating has been possible for awhile, now. Similar things for even longer.

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>>54121493
It tends to be really short. When I jumped Worm and took the drawback where the PRT had a file on me it basically boiled down to pic related.

>>54121518
>>54121565
>rapestating
What is this?

>>54120586
Sorry to tell you senpai, but twi'lek men are ugly at an average. The ones you see that are pretty are essentially their hideous freaks.

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>>54121518
>mfw reading that

Is this was repressed desire looks like

>>54121493
>What does your government file say?

its a bunch of scholarly articles on reoccurring patterns in Ancient myth, Along with publicly available knowledge on the history of my nation with the words "DO NOT ENGAGE DIRECTLY!" stamped over it in big red letters.

>Who briefs the powers that be on what threats you represent to their interests, and what do they say?

I have no idea who is telling other folks about me but they frequently involve the phrases " worst-case scenario" " end of our way of life" and "clear and present danger"

>>54121347
Look at this chump playing imaginary games on the internet. What a loser!

>>54121592
The Pokemon Trainer jump used to have a perk called Savestate, that let you save and load like in a video game. Quicksilver later took it out because he felt that it was too meta for the more in-character tone of the jump. Anyways, there was one shitposter who got really creepy about it, describing in loving detail how he was going to rape people and then rewind time so he'd never face the consequences. No one liked him.

>>54121592
You remember save stating on the original Pokémon Jump. Imagine how you'd use that if you wanted to have sex with the women on the Pokéverse, but weren't very attractive yourself.

>>54121748
I would become attractive and refine my natural charm through repeated testing?

>>54120617
I feel like this is what Banchó looks like IRL.

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>>54121748
But don't you get auto-healthy? Bonus if you get Physical Fitness.

>>54120853
The Jedi Code reads like some Orwellian doublespeak.

>>54121748
Anon, you're not even 18 yet when the jump starts. You could be a walking wet dream, but if they said yes they'd be going to jail.

>>54121822
Cockfighting darwinism is the national past time.
It's pretty obvious they have a different set of laws, you dingus.

>>54121842
Isn't it more like boxing since Pokemon fight each other in the wild all the time, but Trainer battles have rules?

>>54121822
Age of consent in Japan is 13.

>>54121875
Pretty sure most of the country has local laws that raise it to 16-18 like most other first world countries.

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>>54121875

... Wait, really?

>>54121875
wait what

>>54121875
No it isn't. The Children Welfare Act sets it at 18 and individual prefectures can and have added more specific rules.

>>54121863
Yep. Some people like to do edgy interpretations of Pokemon where trainers are awful slave masters, but the fact is the Pokemon are perfectly fine with the fights. They can still object to any given trainer if said trainer treats them poorly, I'm not saying it's impossible to abuse a Pokemon, but the fights aren't intrinsically cruel.

>>54121875
I thought the age of consent was only 13 if you yourself were somewhere between 13 and 18.

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>>54121416
Sure, sure, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Just embrace it, friend. This is jumpchain, which is Mary Sue Central. If you can't accept that, you are a weakling.

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>>54121822

>>54121875
That's meant to protect teenage relationships. If an adult does shit with a kid it's still illegal. >>54121957 is correct in that.

>>54121950
>they can still object to any given trainer if said trainer treats them poorly

Or if he doesn't have enough badges. Or if they just don't FEEL like it.

Lookin' at you, Charizard.

>>54118169

Years ago, I did a bit of homebrewing about a twilight that tried to craft exaltations based on adamant, the same way that solars resonate with orichalcum.

Now I'm going to have to revisit that idea.

>>54121983
Exactly. A trainer has to prove themselves to the Pokemon in order to gain their service, there's not some mind control effect from the Pokeballs. I figure that's probably why Pokemon attack you in the tall grass, most animals would flee from something stomping around in the undergrowth. But wild Pokemon challenge your team, they want to see how they stack up against human-trained Pokemon. Challenge and training and cultivating power are huge things for Pokemon. The series is secretly a xianxia setting, only with the cultivators being weird little monsters instead of humans.

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If I'd have to erase someone's memories just to stop their evil plans, should I just kill them instead and spare them the indignity? Or is it better to leave the body around so it can be useful?

>>54121733
>>54121748
Oh okay thanks for the explanation.

I either take a page out of that one Solar's playbook and make them swear oaths afterwards or I use my super cock to make them have heart pupils after repeated fuckings.

>>54122048
I'mma go with C: use your magic boner powers to convert them to the side of the angels

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>>54122065
And where exactly am I supposed to get those? More importantly, why would they be into me if they know I'm working against them?

>>54122048
Erasing memories kills the individual, and replaces them with somebody very similar.
This is why I either broke the statute of secrecy, or re-established Atlantis as a magical nation in Harry Potter.

>>54122048
As someone with a weird opinion on the matter, normal death is way better than ego death. In a lot of places and series a person will at least keep their memories after dying and entering the afterlife so it's more like you're getting rid of them and sending them to whatever punishment awaits. Ego death, erasing memories, destroys a person completely. Just kill the person.

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>>54121957
In the US they call them Romeo & Juliet laws.

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>>54122081

Seduce them into the good side of the force.

>>54122081
>And where exactly am I supposed to get those
Lots of places. I'm sure someone has a list, but off the top of my head, Generic Action Movie, Fallout, Archer
>why would they be into me if they know I'm working against them?
What part of "magic boner" was unclear?

>>54122048
How far back are you erasing their memories, though?

>>54122122
As far back as it'd take for them to not be evil, which could be as little as a few months or as far back as everything.

>>54122081
>And where exactly am I supposed to get those?
QQ has a Rance jump that has perks for that.

>>54122048
Just erase their memories. I do it all the time. Hell I do it in everyday conversation whenever I fuck up and say something dumb. So I erase everybody's memories and reset the conversation back a couple of seconds.

You probably want to fill the empty space with something else, though. It's always annoying to erase somebody's memories only to find out later that they went on a journey to regain their memory and accidentally fumbled your master plan with a motley crew of rogues and misfits that they picked up along the way.

>>54122207
>"Ah fuck I said something stupid"
>Erase the memory of conversation partners
>Erase just a bit too much without realizing
>Months later find out conversation partners have gone on an adventure
>Fuck
>Try to stop them
>Arrive just in time to find they've regained their memories
>"Can't believe Jumper pees in the pool, that's so embarrassing!"
>Memory Erasing Jumper falls to their knees while shaking fists at the sky

>>54122207
What are the best memory control perks, anyway?

>>54120718
>Ancient Greeks
Do the words Helot Revolt mean anything to you?

>>54122187

Do spacebattles and QQ have their own google drives? I've never been able to find them. I know there's a banned/lewd drive, but it's locked.

Links?

>>54122106
It wouldn't be right, I shouldn't.

But I could offer them a way out of the consequences for switching sides.

This might take a while.

>>54122048
The latter.

t. PsiCorps. the corps is mother the corps is father

>>54122048
Kill them, break them down on the genetic/mental/spiritual levels, store anything useful for later use. Make something neat out of their whole being.
Use the whole buffalo, anon.
Don't be wasteful.

>>54117460
No, no, no. As a Solar it's better to keep an eye on the Creatures of Darkness. If you're any good at dealing with people, either with or without Solar mindrape Charms, it can be even better to get them on your side - More resources for "restoring the Solar Deliberative" or whatever your motivation is.

>>54117951
>narrative is a thing that you can even weaponize
>Exalted
Without a Fair Folk jump, this is actually only marginally possible - Creationborn in Shaping Combat can only do so much. It's also only valid in the Wyld.
Sidereals can try to weaponize Fate... But Fate in Exalted isn't something that forces things to happen. And even if it were, Exalts are explicitly able to defy it (they'd be useless anti-Primordial weapons otherwise) and there are plenty of things Outside Fate (such as most of the enemies of Creation).

>>54118456
>"I'm such a great primordial, that I," ~opens trench coat~ "Have four other primordials inside me!"
Malfeas: "I'm the Demon City. All of the Yozi are inside me, even when surrounding me."

>>54119499
>path to mens heart lies through there stomach
Nope. It's between the third and fourth ribs on the left side.

>>54119526
From Worm: Began with the Butcher, then went for all but the Clairvoyant, Doormaker, Number Man, Alexandria and Legend of Cauldron, along with most of the Slaughterhouse Nine and Kevin Norton. Finished with Teacher and the Dragonslayers. I had a chat with Zion and convinced him to enter my Mount Doom prison - to keep him in stasis until I could "revive" Eden. (Mount Doom prison thanks to Demons of Astlan.)

>>54121262
>nothing says power like literally owning another sapient being
As a Demon Lord (Hero Board jump) I have to disagree. Nothing says power like literally creating sapient beings. And while a claim could be made that they're enslaved (I can end them with a thought, after all) the same could be said for most populations I encounter (They're only alive because I haven't killed them after all.)

>>54117329
Jack the Ripper.

>>54122256
Harry Potter's Memory Spell Specialist grants easy mastery of difficult spells that can delete, change and implant memories.

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>>54121493
The file is pretty thicc if I do say so myself.
In it are:

Relations between me and a figure I fit (and am) from minor myths and folklore about usually a "soul Smith" in primitive times or in more modern times an inventor of sorts along with lists of mythic and historical sightings starting somewhere in an African sub-continent. All long before "modern" recorded history on "The Dimension of Enchantment" where I was regarded as a Smith wearing odd white "cloaks" with a strange circular symbol with arrows pointing in.

After that, there would be more development upon this small subcontinent and "sister" island. Its future sinkage after "The Era of Fiends" citing growing populations of large predatory fauna as threats to the small-ish struggling communities who's prayers were no longer answered by "The Angel." With a final "Dark-age" where it was drowned in horrific creatures fended off by town wizards of sorts before finally sinking with its sister island into the depth of the ocean.

After this more enchanting history comes connections to Greek myth the supplying of weapons to a Spartan, who ravaged the heavens. Being a known as an odd wizard or "Smithy of the soul" under King Arthur's rule (sources conflict on which precisely) eventually spirited away by the fairies he apparently learned his crafts from.

With a large gap in history for roughly 40-50 years before reemerging in folktales of island nations roughing the pre-industrial post-enlightenment era, Being found in a very prestigious and quite secretive school lost to time. Becoming a Philosopher of sorts and being known for craft, the thread continues out following bizarre characters legends through the industrial era and becoming a formal citizen of the US in the ~1950s where he disappears out at sea following an eccentric millionaire and his pet project.

the rest is still pending your clearance

>>54122686
Are there perks that fit any of your shenanigans that might fit into the historical record of whatever world you visit (more specifically, Earth)?

>>54122593
>Without a Fair Folk jump, this is actually only marginally possible - Creationborn in Shaping Combat can only do so much. It's also only valid in the Wyld.
I disagree. First of all, we have a Lunars jump and so we can get our hands on Fair Folk charms. Same with the Mortals jump letting us be Fae-blooded. But even without those, there are plenty of ways to weaponize narrative in Exalted. The simplest is to actually, physically weaponize narrative. Stories and legends are valid as exotic crafting ingredients when making artifacts, the hard part is being able to physically grasp them so you can work them into the structure. There are also many charms, mostly Solaroid ones, that have fluff of the Exalted's narrative becoming physically manifest. Hell, that's a key part of becoming a Devil Tiger. As for Sidereals weaponizing Fate, that works great. Astrological blessings, Sutra charms, SMA...it works fine as a weapon so long as its imposing a condition in the pattern of someone's destiny instead of the grand design. Exalts can casually ignore the sort of destiny that says "you will do this no matter what, and nothing can change the final outcome". They can't do that when the destiny is stuff like "When the ship's Mast breaks, the whole ship is endangered. Nothing dies without consequence, and so to hurt me you must hurt all these other people whose fates I am tied together with."

Jump #372: Kamigawa
>The Hierophant: Faith in tradition and the old school. A justified and ancient source of power. Being supportive, sympathetic and loyal. Receiving instructions, learning, guidance or inspiration. The ability to hear a higher or inner voice. May also indicate a religious ritual, such as a marriage or an initiation.
>Location: Mikokoro
An auspicious place to arrive! And not at all subtle. Whoops.
>Identity: Kami (-200)
>Drawbacks: (+400) The Tip of the Iceberg, A Reckoning
Oh, I've angered some locals, all right. One of the local warlords is out for me because of my interference, and the leader of a faction of oni likewise wants to end me. That will definitely be a thing.
>Scenario: God From The Outside
Well, I kind of literally am. I've given up fighting it, there will be worlds where I can do more good as a deity. At the moment, though, I'm barely running at a tiny fraction of my power. This will make things... notably more complicated.
>Jumper of Flesh and Spirit (700)
Well, mostly flesh at the moment.
>Mana Fount (600)
On the plus side, being able to infuse things directly with mana would be an awfully helpful thing! Once I can use it.
>Bizarre Form (Free, Kami)
Not that bizarre, honestly. Barely even otherworldly. I could have gone full Ramiel with this but it just does not fit the genre.
>Spirit Attendants (Free, Kami)
Huh, okay. This is different but pretty darn useful.
>Symbolic Link (500, Kami)
Huh. A half dozen symbolic links, you say? Yes, I can think of several such useful things to associate with myself...
>Kami In All Things (300, Kami)
This won't be useful until I get a goodly number of worshippers, but once I do...
>Divine Intervention (0, Kami)
Oh, so everyone who prays to me gets powers related to my symbolic links... and my shrines will really be considered holy and grant benefits. Yes, yes indeed, this will be nice. And creating avatars? A pantheon of myself? How very interesting indeed.

>>54122990
>6 Assorted Basic Lands (Free)
I get 200 points toward lands. Basic lands are 50 apiece and 150 for a five-pack. You'd better believe I'm getting one of every type and two Plains. And then absorbing them. Into my soul. With the rest of the lands that follow me around. With the added use of Hydra Blueprints. I forgot - did I mention I swapped out my company in MCU2 for the Blueprints some time back because I'd been mistaken as to how they worked?

So, falling in from another world, and having to swim all the way from Mikokoro to the mainland. Not my favorite thing. And, of course, I'm barely beyond peak human - which for this world is hardly exceptional. My companions aren't much better off, either... I suppose that's the cost for taking such a scenario. Subtly poking around informs me that I would be well advised to not simply declare myself a god, so instead I take a more subtle approach. I've been around long enough to know that dropping a few words here and there with the right kind of person can get them to have a little faith in someone who won't abandon them. Even if they're locked in mortal form.

And sure, it's not fun running around fighting off a warlord who is hellbent on fighting me, and a warband of oni for good measure, but .. well, I still have access to the Warehouse, so even if I have no powers I've got tech enough to stay alive. And the best results I've had have been when the two groups met and fought each other over who gets to kill me, hilariously.

During this jump, for the most part I simply masquerade as a ronin, fighting injustices... after all, it fits the tropes quite well. And as the number of people who direct their thoughts my way grows, my powers start trickling back, little by little. Those who pray find their faith in me strengthened, find the pains of old age easing a bit, their eye and minds clearer. Word gets around.

>>54123008
Three years in, the first temple to me is established, promptly sacked by oni, and that only encourages people to rebuild when the oni have been slain by a wandering swordsman.

Four years in, there are five temples and those who worship me are reporting markedly increased health, among other improvements.

Five years in, there are dozens of villages praising me, which is raising a lot of eyebrows in a world where the gods are at war with the mortal realm. And yet there seems to be more than one wandering swordsman now - spoken of as an immortal ronin, reputed to fight for the people he protects, giving his blessing of health and plenty to the people even as they give him their worship. The shrine maidens likewise are matched with swordsmen, a relationship where both stand on equal grounds. The shrine maidens were present for decorum and diplomacy, and the swordsmen, to keep the peace by any means necessary.

Seven years in I hit the tipping point and had gotten all of my powers back along with the construction of a proper Taisha, but I'd had the body of a kami by that point - which was the same as the form I'd been using up to that point, writ large. I kept the war from touching the innocent, both those who worshipped me and those who did not, so long as the people also did not war with the gods. For none were without sin.

By the end of my time, a fragile peace had been established. It helped that the gods could no longer throw their ire everywhere without consequence, but the credit really went to the daimyo's daughter who ended up freeing a kidnapped god. Of all the stupid things. It's probably not a surprise that O-Kagachi smited the holy fuck out of Konda about the time that I left, honestly. Divine wrath is quite a thing.

>>54122044
>there's not some mind control effect from the Pokeballs
Actually there aresome brainwash balls, they also raise the pokemon to its max level.

>>54123079
>using the Dark Ball

IT'S EVIL DON'T USE IT

>>54123079
I meant under normal conditions. That's clearly an outlier. My apologies for not making it clear I was speaking of generalities and not absolutes.

>>54122048
My rule of thumb is that penalizing someone like that should be (to the best of my abilities) foolproof, but minimal.

So I'd rather erase the specific skills and knowledge that enable them to carry their plans, rather than erase their whole memory or rewrite their personality. I'd rather use some magical or technical bond to keep them from being violent rather than put them in prison. I'd rather cripple their most dangerous abilities rather than kill them.

And if they really are too dangerous, I'd rather do all of the above plus put them in a high security prison of my own design rather than kill them and let their soul loose in the afterlife.

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How reasonable is wanting to make a chain based on a pirate Jumper that commands The Ship and goes around the multiverse stealing entire planets.

>>54123306
What is The Ship?

>>54123306
Reasonable if you first get access to extradimensional storage so you have someplace to put all those planets. The Warehouse won't cut it. Though I don't know where you'd put the inhabitants.

>>54123306
It's only reasonable if the X on your map leads you to Treasure Planet.

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>>54123306
I'm more partial to a Sillage-style fleet, but why not.

How would you take the biosphere along with you, though. Just ignore the Companion limit?

>>54123321
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7723751/

I've been revising my Mermaid Melody Pichi Pitch jump, and while the changes are still underway, there's one issue I want to throw out here before I continue.

I liked the idea of there being a Human capstone perk based around how a lot of the humans actually have ties to other origins, but I have since seen the importance of not interfering with background selections for different jumps, so I removed the one I had in mind.

Now though, I think I have come up with a solution:

Almost Human (600 PPP, Discount Local Human)- A lot of the humans in the setting, at least the main characters, turn out in the end to be not entirely human – or not at all – by the end of the story. Whenever you have a nonhuman body form, you can shift to an alternate human form that embodies characteristics of that nonhuman form. While you will have the appearance of a human, and physical and magical scans will identify you as human, you retain special attributes and abilities of that nonhuman species, with up to 75% of the power level normally accessible to that species. For instance, a Pokémon’s human form would be considered human, but you could access Pokémon attacks even if they could normally only work with a Pokémon body. Also, within this jump only, you start out as actually another background species of your choice who is somehow stuck in a human form for the duration of the jump. You will not get discounts for that second background, but you can access a fair degree of the special abilities that that background normally has.

Could this work?

>>54122364
Just go to the first post of the SB thread and click the drive link. SB and QQ have their drives linked.

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>>54123360
Maybe.

>>54122857
what are you specifically looking for..?

>>54123355
And if you put a "WE BRAKE FOR NOBODY" on the back of the ship.

>>54120718
>Tell that to the Ancient Greeks and Romans.
The Ancient Greeks and Romans were pretty much monsters by modern standards.

>>54122857
Sword & Sorcery has one. The Making of Myth iirc.
DC-Arrowverse also has one, from the Legend origin.
There's at least one more but i can't remember where from.

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>>54123359
>How would you take the biosphere along with you, though. Just ignore the Companion limit?

Plants are animals can be taken along as long as they're not 'sapient'. And I think there are several garden items to store things.

For taking the sapient I was thinking on soul-absorbtion and then using soul-magictech to create puppet bodies for the familiars to use.



>>54123351
Or maybe I could just steal the planet and leave all the life behind.

>>54123473
>soul-absorbtion
What, like Hellsing's Dark Binding? What other perks do we have?

>>54123435
>Pedophiles
>Slavers


Aside from that, they didn't seem to be that different. Specially then Romans when it came to private propriety.

>>54123496
There is one in Valkyrie Profile that works the same, but familiars don't get killed unless their souls are destroyed via soul-attacks. But you don't gain their memories, skills, powers and forms.

Ghost Warriors from Dragon Ball Multiverse does the same, but doesn't absorb the soul. Summoning is the same than the Valkyrie Profile perk but it's limited to 8 active summons which has no canon basis and stupid because there are other three perks that don't have the limit and are way better than it.

>>54123503
The Romans and Greeks considered the total annihilation of any population that didn't surrender perfectly okay, Democracy outside of a brief period in Athens was thought of as the shittest idea anyone ever had, rights were a thing given to you not a thing you had automatically, war was considered awesome and anyone who didn't like it was a pansy.

>>54123544
And don't forget we mostly have their own written accounts as primary sources, so it's possible they were even worse than how they portray themselves.

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>>54123360
In my own opinion friend, I wouldn't suggest doing stuff related to altforms purely because rules about them lies in the realm of headcanon.

But these are just my personal thoughts.

>>54123544
>that didn't surrender perfectly okay
The only reason that the very same thing doesn't happens today is because when a big country strikes some third-world shit-hole they can't ever hope to retaliate. So the public opinion are allowed to feel 'bad' for just destroying the entire economic infrastructure of the country and replace it with their own companies.

WW2 still had cities destroyed completely by both all sides if needed, and it's a thing that still happens in the various civil wars and local wars that came after WW2.

>>54123573
>have their own written accounts as primary sources

Curious thing about the Roman emperors is that most of their historical documents that we have today are written by their enemies after their deaths. So it's probable that they weren't that bad.

>>54123359
Well, one way to go about it would be to use that one perk from Civilization that lets you do legendary feats like mating with the sea or wrestling the wind as if they are living beings. Use that to seduce/recruit the world itself and have it become a companion. Just like how the human body is full of microbes and the like, the planet companion could feasibly bring along whatever he/she is carrying.

That's a key basis behind my plan to make Final Fantasy VIII's moon into my Sorceress Knight and proceed to found a monster civilization.

>>54123360
Sounds ace homeslice.

>>54123573
History is written by the victors, and nobody wants to be remembered for all the horrific shit they did (by their standards.)

And nobody can deny that Rome was generally the victor.

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Do you have any weird superstitions?

My jumper absolutely refuses to use anything related to Gilgamesh, like the GoB you get if you fight the drawback version of him in Prillya. Even when they got an amiibo of him from Fire Emblem Valentia they don't use it, only keeping it in the case as a reminder of their victory over him

>>54123573
Not necessarily. You have to keep in mind that back then that stuff was normal.
There was nothing bad about it to them, it was just how things were.
So why lie about it?

Not to mention that the sources we have are too consistent for a giant coverup.

>>54123606
>WW2 still had cities destroyed completely by both all sides if needed, and it's a thing that still happens in the various civil wars and local wars that came after WW2.
Yeah, and the world wars of the last century are one of the big factors in the shifting attitudes towards war.
Not only was it the first mechanized wars, it was also the first time the civilian populace got accurate reports from the battlefields.

Support for wars is surprisingly hard to get when your promises of glorious victory are overshadowed by pictures and video of fields full of brutally murdered people.

>>54123655
Your obsession with Gil is a little unsettling.

>>54123714
I like to think of Nika as the natural progression of various anons' pettiness towards the guy for over a thousand threads. Which still confuses me since he's not the strongest, not the most arrogant and not the most despicable guy but people seem to hate him like he's scum incarnate.

>>54123754
They're just jealous. Gil may be a smug dick, but you can't deny he's a smug dick with style.
He just does it better than most jumpers ever could, so they need to kill him to stop feeling inferior.

What are some good ways to use magic to help with tech, things like a heat sink enchanted with a cold effect?

>>54123754
>over a thousand threads.
Oh, Jesus. And at this point were closer to 2000 than we are 1000.

>>54123634
>Use that to seduce/recruit the world itself and have it become a companion.
Which Star Wars planet would make the best waifu?

>>54123655
I tend to pay discrete but meticulous attention to narrative clichés. Just in case.

I also have a few specific rules: don't say you're invincible, or a god; don't gloat; don't take your allies for granted; don't deceive through straight up illusions; don't make promises you can't be sure you'll follow through; etc... In short, don't tempt dramatic irony, and keep your credibility ironclad.

>>54123754
I think Nika's dislike of him is a Fate/ fangirl thing, not a Jumper thing. Doesn't seem to get caught up in the usual business for Jumpers and it's not like they're keeping their like of the franchise a secret.

>>54123655
At this point it's a little hard to separate "superstitions" from "things that will have a tangible purpose at some later date, only Jumper doesn't know why they do them at the time".
Luck perks are sometimes weird like that. Why did I turn my coffee mug around three times before drinking it? Dunno. But I'm sure it's got something to do with that waitress who noticed, and is coming to ask me why, allowing me to strike up a conversation where a neat piece of exposition will be delivered, or maybe I'll add them to my party?

>>54123817
>don't deceive through straight up illusions

I love illusions. Especially illusions of things I actually can do, but haven't. Thus when they "wise up" to my trickery and assume it's yet another illusion.... It's not.

That said, anytime I'm stripped of fiat perks, the ones I miss the most are actually my planning and memory perks (Xanatos Gambit and similar.)

>>54123754
You forgot that he's well known. Most of the people who are worse than him aren't too popular.

>>54123663
>Support for wars is surprisingly hard to get when your promises of glorious victory are overshadowed by pictures and video of fields full of brutal
As I say, that only matters because the current targets can't retaliate. When the Japanese bombed the US or the Germas occupied most of Europe and constantly bombed the UK, the citizens of said countries didn't really cared if a two cities in Japan suddenly disappeared or if German cities were reduced to rubble.

Nowadays people can only be against that with things like the Vietnam War or the most recent wars in the Middle East because the weaker side cannot ever hope to retaliate in their homes.

Getting your city raided if you didn't completely destroyed your enemy in a few years of your victory was a very real possibility with Rome, let alone the Greek City-States.

>>54123754
Iirc he's actually pretty cool before the whole "corrupted by the grail" thing.

Full PPC Write-up is now finished.
https://pastebin.com/WsRnmC6p

Hope yall enjoy.

>>54123960
Possibly also because Gil didn't get filtered through rule 63 before appearing.

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>>54123714
Heh.

Heh.

Heh.

How does this look?

>Barracks, garage, aerodrome and drydock, free for earth military:only accessible post-jump-100
well you're going to need somewhere to house these people and maintain these machines This massive warehouse attachment is big enough and versatile enough to provide room for all the soldiers, and vehicles you purchase here, scaling proportionately with the amount and items you purchase, unfortunately it cannot be used , to store anything not directly related to the maintenance of them , nor anything not mundane. i.e. potatoes to feed them and steel ingots are fine super potatoes with actual eyes and Orichalcum ingots are not.

>>54124025
You have to read the Epic of Gilgamesh sometime.

And hell, even after he supposedly becomes a good king, he has his family (including his son) and all of his servants executed to be buried in his tomb.

>>54124039
>Possibly also because Gil didn't get filtered through rule 63 before appearing.
Well, maybe there's a solution right there...

>>54124051
pls stop trying to make jumps

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>>54123306
Isn't that basically what Autobot is doing?

>>54124079
And? That was a common thing in those days.

Like super common.

>>54124025
>Pretty cool

Anon, does "right of the first night" ring any bells in your mind?

>>54123912
>Especially illusions of things I actually can do, but haven't.
My person of similarly-toned skin.

>>54124117
I'd have thought a hereditary monarch wouldn't want to bury his son with him, but what do I know?

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>>54124094
you fuckers had over a year to Get into the Godzilla cinematic universe and no one did anything. Thus,The task has fallen to the jump maker of last resort, this is happening and you cannot stop it.

>>54124119
>Implying you wouldn't do it if you were king
Actually, you probably wouldn't. Wet blanket.

>>54124119
An Enlightenment era canard.

>>54124117
It being common doesn't mean he's not a bastard for it.

>>54124141
Noooo it's totally sweet guys he wants his son in the afterlife with him because he's a clingy fuck

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>>54124030
>someone like me couldn't possibly…be real…
Erika just contradicted herself. To quote the old saying about the philosophy class:
>A student asked the professor “How do I know I exist?”
>The professor responded “And who may I say is asking?”

>>54124119
that was Never an actual thing that happened, It was always referred to as something nearby kingdoms did rather than something the local king did. It was a propaganda piece to keep people from running away to nearby kingdoms.

>>54124025
He was pretty cool in the god king sort of way, and when he actually had the capacity for honor or mercy. Maybe it's his pride being misinterpreted as arrogance? He kinda has the portfolio to back it up though with the whole "literally led humanity to victory over the gods", "literally ruled the greatest kingdom in the history of the world" and "is literally the king of kings".

>>54124117
And if jumping off of bridges was a common pastime, would you do it?

>>54124173
It was really more of Bern's trap that did the 'erase from existence' thing than her own disbelief. She just went along with it when she knew her number was up, as sort of a joke and a final 'fuck you' to both Xinos and her former creator and dealing the last attack.

>>54124190
Assuming there was so little social stigma that it was a common pastime, yes, because I wouldn't have been raised to not do it.

>>54124182
Yeah, bancho's actually right about that. There's pretty much no evidence that it ever happened.

>>54124184
>the greatest kingdom in the history of the world
>literally the king of kings

>this is what urukaboo actually believe

>>54124182
>>54124160
"The first recorded instance of the “first night” custom appears in the Epic of Gilgamesh, a five-cycle tale based on a historical king of Uruk in Babylonia around 2700 B.C.E. In Tablet 2, Gilgamesh, as the king, claims the right to have sexual intercourse first with every new bride in Uruk on the day of her wedding; Enkidu, the subhuman brute, enters the city, protests this “abuse,” and blocks the door of a marital chamber until Gilgamesh bests him in a fight. Enkidu’s challenge might be taken as an indication that the custom was already an unpopular one by the time the Epic of Gilgamesh was set down in writing."

This is what I was talking about.

http://www.snopes.com/weddings/customs/droit.asp

>>54124141
Point.

>>54124163
Another point. That said we're ascribing today's morality to the past. Remember that they had very different opinions in ancient Babylonia.

>>54124190
If bridge jumping was reserved for the kingly and those granted such by divine right? No.

In Egypt, it was an honor for the servants to be entombed and serve the pharaoh in the afterlife.

That said the Babylonian afterlife sucks and I'm not sure why Gilgamesh would take people with him. The entire point of the afterlife was that it sucks and living was much better.

>>54124205
That makes more sense, since a great detective should know better then to try to prove a negative.

>>54124217
Did Nasu Gilgamesh ever practice this? He doesn't really seem like he'd care that much about women or sex outside of those who directly interest him with their power and will and stuff, like Arturia.

>>54124205
How big of an "immediate area" does Unconquered extend to? Just you and what you're wearing? A few meters radius? A whole room? Also, do you need to be "shining" to use it, or does it just work?

>>54124248
I dunno, he does look like a slightly butch lesbian.

>>54124251
About the size of a 'room' the current scene is happening in, I'd say. And it's always on - the 'shining' is just a neat and optional visual effect I imagined.

>>54124115
No. The entire reason he's in trouble is because he hasn't been doing that.

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>>54124264
I always thought he looked more like Billy Idol