So they are essentially eight and a half foot space batman that

>>54109289
So basically scout assault marines.

>heavy bolt pistol
muh dick

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With bacon fryers attached to their stomachs

>>54109289
Basically Night Lords and Raven Guard and Raptors. I guess the Raven Guard and all the sneaky chapters are redundant now because every chapter has these guys, unless Raven Guard Reivers are extra sneaky.

>>54109360
I would eat bacon out of that stomach and I'm not even gay!

>>54109403
Double sneaky.

Raven Guard are fucked by Primaris in general though, because apparently Corvus helmets don't fit them but all the other ones do.

>>54109420
apparently the stock standard primaris get guard duty at all items because gotta not be Nulegions

>>54109289

If the multi-part models allow us to put bolters and beakies on them they would look like the very first marines.

Shame they're not in scale with any of the vehicles though.

Raven Guard just got a huge new addition with these dudes.

>>54109420
Should be fine on Reivers, they don't have the gorget. I for one am looking forward to only using Reivers for my super sneaky Raptor army.

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>>54109289
What is that symbol on his knee?

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They basically wear standard marine armor but with smaller pauldrons and non-elephant legs

>>54109496
They're actually wearing the same size pauldrons as normal marines, they're interchangeable.

But really, they're just true-scale marines.

>>54109413
>you will never have bacon fat drip from a Reiver's rock hard ab cabling into your mouth

WHY EVEN LIVE

>>54109289

Tryhard one-up-manship shite that only a pleb could be impressed by. GW certainly know their market.


>inb4 he's badmouthing nu-GW who are the bestest company evar REEEEEEEEE

>>54109450
>no collar so you can headswap a beaky just fine
>artwork shows Reivers holding bolters in the background

Mission is a go

>>54109600
I enjoy these ironically to trigger you. Excuse me while I crack open a microbrewed IPA and listen to shitty music.

>>54109612

Shame about the last part, if they would only fit in a land raider proteus all my dreams would come true.

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Lads when is this going to end.

Is 41K going to be a 54mm game?

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>>54109360
Naw dude they just got real gnarly Chad Alpha abs!

These niggaz be wearing "The Situation" shirt to flex their powerful abdomens in order to better terrorize all the manlets.

>>54109663
>he doesn't want to see 100 meter tall space marines punching out Imperator titans in Epic

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>>54109663

>>54109679
>"W-why do you have a skull on your helmet, Brother Chad?"
>"THE FUCK DID YOU SAY TO ME?"
>"I-I-I just thought they were only meant for Chaplains is all..."
>"HRRRNGH!!!" *flexes abs*
>"Eeek!"

>>54109663
Is that truer scale?

>>54109289
For the most part the new Chad Marines have been ok, but these just strike me as really stupid. I also hate the new naming scheme. Reivers is such a dumb name.

>oldmanyellsatcloud.jpg

>>54109736

I don't even know mate, I think people forgot the average man is 6 ft tall 38 million years into the future and that marines are between 7 and 8 feet tall.

So the old models were about right in high. Nu-marines are more balancing the scale by making their heads and arms the correct size.

>>54109403
>I guess the Raven Guard and all the sneaky chapters are redundant now
In fluff, yes, but mechanically, given how the rules for every Primaris unit they've made has been hot garbage, sneaky oldmarines still very much have a place on tabletop.

>>54109403
Or a troops choice for them.

>>54109693
pauldrons are too small

>>54109289
Anyone who faces the Space Sharks with Reivers in their ranks is fucked.

>>54109488
Looks like a circle drawn in blood.

Any chance these guys ARE actually Cawl getting his hands on Night Lords geneseed?

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>>54109488
Could be a symbol of a targeting reticle.

>>54109289
>Grapnel Launcher

This is one of the silliest things I ever read.

>skull masks

God that's dumb. They're already huge, and the helmets are already intimidating. Leave the skull masks to the Chaplains where it has symbolic meaning that they care for man.

>>54110479
The concept of a grapple-hook gun, or the fact they decided to call it a "Grapnel"?

>>54110479
can't copyright "grenade launcher" anon

>>54109797
I don't know, I like that I have a force with interscissors and interdictors and interferons and grievers and beavers and I can't remember which one is the tac squad

>>54110521
"Grapnel". Somehow it's worse than meltas or krakk. It's just weird and out of place. It sounds too goofy.

>>54110527
Oh dear, you're retarded.

>>54110552
>>54110527
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/grapnel
You people are fucking morons.

>>54110573
Yeah, and brangle is technically an acceptable substitute for argument. I still wouldn't use the word brangle.

>>54110479
>>54110521
>>54110527
>>54110552
https://www.google.com/search?q=grapnel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
They're probably aping Batman since that's what he calls his cable guns.

>>54110605
I just get a weird feeling about the numarines and their units. They feel like videogame units or something. I can't put my finger on it. But rather than just "tactical squads" and "assault squads" and such, we get all these uber-copyright-friendly names.

It just doesn't feel right. It doesn't scream warrior-monk angel of death anymore. They feel like stormcrap eternals or whatever.

>>54110640

GW is supposedly working on a new big 40k game and the models are designed to be easier to code.

Space Marine 2 soon?

>>54110640

You know when Fantasy got canned and we all said 'it'll come to you eventually', well this is that moment.

Their sweeping the grognards out in exchange for normie money and going mainstream/generic sci-fi.

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>>54110640
>we get all these uber-copyright-friendly names.

I WONDER WHY

>>54110640
They have less flavor than the old stuff. The Reivers in particular seem very targeted towards 13 year olds who think that super sneaky spec-ops operational operators are the peak of coolness.

They feel more like real-life special forces than 7-8 ft tall Knights in Space.

>>54110697
Well yeah we all know why. It just sucks.

>>54110640
>>54110695
>>54110706
t. Salty Fagballs

God forbid it's not what you grew up with in the 80s and 90s

>>54110729

I didn't say it was necessarily a bad thing, I just said this is point where what you like and what the rest of GW's audience likes starts to diverge and you'll probably move to historical wargaming or other sci-fi games and just use your old models for them.

>>54110706
Yes.

Space Marines are losing the old grimdark warrior-monk space-crusader super soldiers flavor.

Eventually I think I'm gonna make a space Marines army using primaris bodies with the old style helmets and even old style bolters and special weapons and everything and just count them as regular Marines.

>>54110729
Oh shut up. Don't be an ass.

>>54110764
The Primaris Marines don't have that gothic dark feel about them that Chapters like the Dark Angels or Black Templars have I agree. But it hasn't come exactly out of left field, they resemble the Great Crusade Space Marines from the first few Horus Heresy books. Guys who joke around and play games and are optimistic. It's obviously meant to be a callback to them, so it'll be interesting to see how they develop over the years.

>>54110851
Eh, maybe. But I don't mean the fluff, I mean even the little stuff like unit names and armor design and whatever.

>>54110697
>that stops the copyright some how.
Spell crow, cromlech, etc etc ain't going to be in any way dissuaded

>>54110851
Yeah, but the HH stuff at least does a good job of having each legion feel like they have a distinct flavor and heritage. FW has released upgrade kits for literally every legion's tactical squads.

>>54109289
Fucking Loyalist Night Lords.

>>54110729
I'm not salty, I just am not a fan of the direction they're taking them in. I think that Space Marines are losing some of their unique flavor

>>54110973
I think Cawl was a fan of Curze

>>54111096

Join us brother, where we play 3rd edition 40K and 6th edition Fantasy all night long... and after that... fluff lists as far as the eye can see and then better games, like bolt action and Black Powder.

>>54111132
Cawl basically a 10,000 year old snot nosed teenage who likes Curze and My Chemical Romance I actually do too... and gets in fights with his stepdad roboute IT'S NOT AN AI DAD GAWD IT'S JUST A COLLECTION OF SEVERED HEADS POWERED BY THE WARP GEESE WHEN ARE YOU GONNA LET ME DRIVE MARS

>>54109693
Looks horrible

>>54109713
In the sequel to Dark Imperium. Confirmed

>>54109289
It cracks me up every time I see the sooperspoopy tactiskull with dainty calves.

>>54109488

It's an iron halo symbol.

>>54109360
Why would you NOT go into battle with a quad-linked George Foreman strapped to your chest? That kind of thinking is borderline-heresy and bound to get you Blammed by the commissar...

>>54110942
No but at least they can avoid losing their IP by not defending it, since it will be copyrighted. AND make mad dosh by basically selling marines to people yet again. AND force 3rd party bite maker to redo their whole range to be in scale.

>>54111729

> No but at least they can avoid losing their IP by making it totally worthless.

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>>54109289
>skipping leg day
>do they even have ATSKNF?

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>>54109420
Wrong

>>54111754
I don't know, GW seems to be doing pretty fucking well.

>>54111845

Their sales have been dropping constantly for the past few years.

>>54109289
They look like complete shit. The skulls are cartoony instead of the typical chaplain helmet, and they're wearing capris with croc shoes. Why do these exist? We didn't need them.

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>>54112003
>Why do these exist?

I think you know why...

>>54112021
Eh?

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>>54112003
>>54112021
STRIKE FROM THE SKY, BROTHERS!
>t. actual assault marines

>>54112021
it took me a minute, holy fug

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>>54112058
WE SHALL FIGHT THEM ON THE BEACHES

>>54112021
...It looks like Godzilla? I don't get it.

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>>54112093
U wot m8y? Reivers get out, only hundreds of years old veterans allowed here.

>>54112112
>...It looks like Godzilla?
Nope
Hint: H***y M******t

>>54112117
Look at the ankles anon.

>>54112143
Sorry you lost me. Please explain to a pleb like me

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>>54112144
Yes, they be feetlets.
#trueMarineshavecurves

>>54110479
40k's used "grapnel" for about as long as it's used "boltgun"

we need more pauldrons

>>54111954
And have been going up since Rountree take over. Their market cap has never been so high.

>>54112199
But men only have two shoulders.

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>>54112222
>this is what chaosfags believe

>>54112175
Look at nose

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>>54112143
>>54112258
I don't get it at all. What is it supposed to look like. Can you draw it? All I see is a godzilla head.

>>54112217
>going up
We have fresh annual? Because year ago the minis sales dropped again and final numbers were fixed by 5 milllions from royalty.

>>54112274
its le ebin jew meme

the worst thing about /pol/ memes is that they're too edgy for leddit so they're never gonna die

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>>54112274
Think jew and look at it as if it was a person facing to your right.

>>54112274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyFLm3pzhuk

>>54112112
I think it's meant to be a jew

>>54112274
It's a guy wearing a hoodie and hat, smoking and praying.

>>54112322
Still don't see it. Looks like a Tyrannosaur's cranial ridge.

>>54112274
I don't see the 'zilla but I do see a soldier holding a book taking a crap on the latrine with his pack and helmet still on.

>>54112322
Still see the soldier taking a dump.

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>>54112199
>>54112222

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>>54112348
Blakc belt of paint-fu

>>54112397
I guess? Maybe? Seems like a real stretch there.

>>54112397
reaching

>>54112397
Looks like a stretch there. But I guess its like any other cloud when two different people look at it they'll see different things.

>>54112384
I wish they'd make new ones of these, I love these suckers, any 3rd party makers?

>>54110697

Honestly fuck Chapterhouse so much, they really fucked how GW handles itself now. Not only did they rename everything but now the whole no model = no rule thing. Among this, they won't do artwork of random shit now, rather artwork must include model counterparts in their game to enforce copyright.

All because these retards played with fire for some shitty 3rd party sculpts that barely look professional (looks like some dude and some greenstuff tier).

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>>54112384
BE JUST AND FEAR NOT

>>54112436

You may want to take a gander at FW's Custodes Telmon Dread....if you can stifle your vomit over FW cheese and prices long enough. Otherwise I'm not sure. If you're willing to put it n the effort, you could probably acquire an original and cast your own.

>>54112481
On one hand I do agree with you but on the other Chapter House was a huge wake up call on how they manage releases, I mean pre-CH GW would take years to shit out half of their codices for the current edition and that changed immediately after the CH debacle and you got an edition where every army had an up to date codex.

I think it forced them to clean up their shit and it also killed their art department.

>>54112557
Hey, don't talk THAT bad about forgeworld. Their prices may be stupidly high, and their rules might be cheesy, while they're still releasing pretty much resin only, but the models themselves look gorgeous.

>>54109289
i want these so bad. Gonna start a carcharodonsarmy soon.

>>54109289
What is the basis of the name? Is there a reason for the a being replaced by the i?

It's pretty irritating to be honest.

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>>54112557
To be fair, most of their models are supposed to be used in 30k games and are balanced as such.

That said, they look so nice that I'm almost tempted to buy some. Almost...maybe when the pound goes down a bit more.

>>54112947
Copyrights.

>>54112947

FUCKING GOOGLE YOU STUPID SACK OF SHIT

>>54112947
reive is a real word

>>54112504
TRUESCALE GINGERS WHEN.

>>54113098

Space Marine cattle thieves?

>>54112003
>They look like complete shit. The skulls are cartoony instead of the typical chaplain helmet

Also it's pretty dumb to try and intimidate xenos and chaos marines with a skull mask. Why would xenos be intimidated by a vision of dead humans?

>>54112003

Poses suck because of snapfit

They should have made the legs more Gundam-ish instead of ham-handing the cut-off part

The skulls should have been realistic instead of cartoony

I think that would fix them.

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>>54112958
Thank goodness for Brexit, I sat on a Forge World order until the night of the vote and watched the pound tank.

>>54113565
>tw from 1.65x to steady decline down to 1.25x-1.30x

My currency converter jewed me out of a couple cents per dollar but it's whatever.

>>54112947
The properly spelled Reaver is a deldar vehicle

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>>54109360
>going to battle with a food preparation unit
It's like they are british or something.

>>54113266
>cattle thieves
Raiders

>>54109289
so, something like the scouts of the Space Wolves

>>54109360
>A chapter specializing in them
>Chapter master is George Foreman
>Armed with a pair of power fists

>>54112481
>GW acts like a pack of assholes
>it's the other guys that are to blame

No, GW should absolutely be considered at fault for their anti-consumer practices. They're a bad company.

>>54112481
>they really fucked how GW handles itself now.

They didn't force GW to do anything.

>>54113966

All for-profits are bad companies by your logic. No company is going to do work so others can profit.

>>54113985
>>54113966
>defending literal parasites

t. chinashit poorfags

>>54113986
No, all companies that engage in aggressively anti-consumer practices like customer gouging or maliciious litigation are bad companies, these are both practices GW has engaged in. GW's current approach of "lay down IP on everything and refuse to do anything that can't be copyrighted" is only a symptom. GW should just accept the competition and rely on delivering a better product at a lower price.

>>54113999
Chapterhouse produces a competing product. They're not parasites.

>>54114390
>suing another company is anti-consumer

Like I said, all for-profit companies are bad by your logic. All of them have or will sue to protect their IP.

>>54114390
Chapterhouse products piggyback GW's IP and products: fact.
Nobody plays Chapterhouse only games: fact.

You couldnt even use most of CH's shit without the proper GW product

If anything it was a symbiosis and GW shouldve kept them around.

>>54114479
I wasn't referring to Chapterhouse. GW has taken legal action against other people for much more ridiculous things.

>>54114479
Also not all companies are especially aggressive about IP defense.

>>54114390
>GW should just accept the competition and rely on delivering a better product at a lower price.

Think about what you're saying. You said GW should sell great minis for less than what a garage outfit with little overhead would charge. If they don't, then they're the most evil company ever to have done business.

>>54114589
You're implying a garage operator is a serious competitor.

>>54114612
>You're implying a garage operator is a serious competitor.

But generally speaking the only companies making derivative works based on GW IP are garage outfits.

>>54113986
>All for-profits are bad companies by your logic

No, only GW is bad. If he were an X-wing fan, he probably wouldn't complain if Disney went out and literally assassinated every person making unauthorized star wars models on Shapeways.

>>54114671
No. I pretty regularly complain about companies using IP as an excuse to be dicks. GW has responded to falingerie sales by price gouging, tried to claim trademark on the term space marine, and ordered a takedown of fan made player aids from board game geek. That's all kind of dickish and their current method of developing the game reflects their attitude.

>>54114780

What are you, a time traveler from 2013? GW sales are through the roof and stock is at an all time high.

>>54114780
Falling sales*

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>>54109488
Ultras halo.

>>54114786
Past tense.

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>>54114780
>>54114789
>spot the retard

https://19485-presscdn-0-14-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2016-17-Press-Statement-final.pdf

>>54114671

If a company is good to me as a fan, I give them my money.

If I do not personally like their business model then I give somebody else my money.

THAT, my friend, is how a market economy is supposed to work. "COMPANIES GOTS TO MAKE MONEY", that's no godamned excuse for anything, we choose where our money goes, we get to judge the people we're giving it to.

>>54114821
White people responded to blacks with slavery, what's your fucking point.

>>54114829

Your mistake is thinking you are the majority or that you matter. The real world, with economics and the market data, are showing that your opinion about GW is wrong.

OR, GW customers are all just dumb kucks, it could be that too.

>/tg/ now defends the company that killed chapter master
What went so horribly wrong?

>>54110595
Grapnel is still very much in common usage though, at least in the UK.

>>54114862

It's more about making fun of people selectively taking a moral stand against GW.

>>54114847

What the fuck are you talking about? I didn't say that I was the majority, and I matter as much as any other fuckoff with a gaming budget, no more and no less.

My opinion of GW is that they aren't getting my money.

My opinion of consumers in general is that they are stupid sheep and don't realize how much power they have. Don't pay people that you don't like.

If you don't approve of GW's practices, if you wish that they were better to their fans or that the companies who ARE better to their fans were more successful, and you're still giving them you're money, then I think you're a shit. You exist, and you are the majority of humans, but you're still shit.

>>54114910
>and I matter as much as any other fuckoff with a gaming budget, no more and no less.

Not if you're spending 0 and the other guy is spending something, not really.

>>54114910
What makes you think your opinion is so amazing that you had to share it with us? Literally nobody gives a shit and would rather you hadn't posted at all. You don't have to suck GW's dick but you sure as hell don't have to spout the same tired, and outdated might I add, tripe that we've heard for half a decade.

>>54114916

The money I gave to Kobold Press and Steam and Magic the Gathering last year could have been theirs. I don't always dig Hasbro, but I don't think their practices are as bad as GW, and I also keep in mind that they're bringing me a product which smaller game companies simply couldn't, not with 4 new sets and 2 new worlds every year, I dig this and I'm happy to fund it, even though I think its stupid that only 2-5 cards out of every pack are playable.

But the point is, yes, EVERY traditional gamer's gaming money is potentially their money.

>>54114926

What makes you think your opinion is so amazing that you had to share it with us? Literally nobody gives a shit and would rather you hadn't posted at all. Go ahead, suck GW's dick but you sure as hell don't have to spout the same tired, and outdated might I add, tripe that we've heard for half a decade.

>>54114910
>My opinion of consumers in general is that they are stupid sheep and don't realize how much power they have.

Think of everything you've bought in the last year and consider how many evil companies were involved in producing and/or selling that product.

>>54114987

What makes you think your opinion is so amazing that you had to share it with us? Literally nobody gives a shit and would rather you hadn't posted at all. You don't have to suck GW's dick but you sure as hell don't have to spout the same tired, and outdated might I add, tripe that we've heard for half a decade.

>mfw you posted first anyway
>fucking kek

>>54114916
>>54114987

Oh, and no, its not like I was ABOUT to buy $500 dollars worth of space marines but then read up on their business practices and changed my mind. I'm probably not going to buy a miniature and paint it any time in the next couple years, that's a hobby I wouldn't take up unless I lived near a gaming store, and I knew a pool of people who all played the same wargame (and that wargame wasn't a GW game).

>>54114987
>The money I gave to Kobold Press and Steam and Magic the Gathering last year

You hate GW for suing people but you buy MTG, from the company that literally patented the mechanic of "tapping" cards, and aggressively defends their IP through lawsuits all the time.

>>54115012

Then why the fuck do you think you matter? Why are you still talking? You're literally of no concern, regardless of how little concern I am myself, before you start sperging out again.

>>54114991

Yea, no shit, but this isn't /pol/, we can talk about minis here and talk about bananas elsewhere.

>>54114987
>Steam
>M:tG

Lol. I've always hated Steam and am glad I quit M:tG back in Ravnica/Kamigawa. But I guess I can't gloat since I still buy GW shit.

>>54115023

You haven't made a single post regarding minis in the past hour.

>>54114991
That's honestly a fair point. I retract my criticisms of GW.

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>>54112112
Comparable only in destructive power.

>>54113694
I wonder what the retards that make these think when they make them?
I wonder what they think deployments are like, I would like to get into their heads and see that shit.
Absolutely fucking retarded

>>54115019

Yes. And I admit, that has something to do with the fact that there's no smaller company offering the same product, which you can't say for GW. But I would still be pissy with Hasbro if they were destructive to their own fandom in the way that GW is (or, say, TSR was; do you think it's fair to compare them to TSR?).

>>54115059

Don't the fucking rations have that little pouch you shake and it heats up anyway?

>>54115070
>which you can't say for GW

Other wargames aren't 40k and other models aren't 40k models you fucking idiot. You might as well play another card game instead of Magic.

Do you honestly think anyone actually buys GW shit just to support GW?

>>54115043

Why are you such a pussy??

Stop, time out, real talk, you are expressing something that has mystified me for years and I am BEGGING you to explain it. Why would that cause you to retract your criticism of GW? Why would you say, "Oh, I've participated in evil before, so I guess I might as well just do so again?"

Why would you not say, "Gosh, you're right, I guess I should start criticizing those other companies too, and pay more general attention to how I vote with my dollars"?

>>54115059
it's for camping?

>>54115091
Because he's smart enough to realize his own hypocrisy and wise enough to not want to be a hypocrite. He sure as hell isn't going to stop using the internet, electricity, and eating most of the foods he's eating, so how can he complain about one random thing but not those other, exact same evils without being a hypocrite?

That's all you are: a noisy fucking hypocrite.

>>54115070
>Yes. And I admit, that has something to do with the fact that there's no smaller company offering the same product, which you can't say for GW.

If you are invested in MTG specifically you won't settle for a competing CCG. Likewise if you're invested in 40k the setting, another SF game based on another setting is not an alternative, because it's not 40k. SF settings are not always interchangeable.

Right now I hate GW for what they did with 8th edition and Primaris marines, but that's not going to suddenly make me go buy Malifaux or X-wing or Gates of Antares for example when I already considered them and dismissed them because none of them appeal to me.

>>54115059
>I wonder what the retards that make these think when they make them?

Their website says it's for mechanized units.

>>54110673
no

>>54115079

No, I mean that a smaller company can't generate a new block with a new world twice a year. If they did then I would play those games too because I just think that's so awesome and want to finance it.

I certainly *like* Warhammer, but new Warhammer material.. isn't really new. They just do it to jerk more money out of you and they don't give you much sugar in turn, it's just a tax for continuing to play the game.

Magic could operate like that, they could put in a lot less effort and make more money in the short term if they just coasted along with a lot of reprinted cards and a basic cash-extraction model. And then they wouldn't get any more of mine, no matter how much I love the basic game, there would be other card games where I could have more fun for less money.

>>54115059

>not having everyone bring some sort of pan, microwave, or pressure cooker.

Fuck your unit was fucking gay. We would cook every Sunday or Fridays during the red cycle. Nothing beats a taste of home when the menu is always the same

>>54115145
>if they just coasted along with a lot of reprinted cards and a basic cash-extraction model

Like the From the Vaults or Vintage Masters?

>>54115113
>Right now I hate GW for what they did with 8th edition

Dude fuck 7E. If anything hate them for 6E and 7E. I told you morons that flyers, allies, formations, and all that shit was a slippery slope.

>>54115101

"How can you solve one problem and not all the others?"

I just don't see any contradiction here. The fact that I'm criticizing GW doesn't mean I'm NOT pissed off about coal power or that I DON'T hate the fossil fuel industry... but, even if I didn't, it wouldn't make me wrong in any way about GW. It would just be an opportunity for you to teach me something about coal power.

You seem to think that anybody who cares about anything is a hypocrite unless they care about everything equally. I encounter this attitude a lot, no one ever explains it, and it makes no sense to me.

>>54115181
>I just don't see any contradiction here.

Because you're a moron.

>It would just be an opportunity for you to teach me something about coal power.

How about you fucking educate yourself instead of relying on others to do it for you?

>>54112274
I assumed it was a Lord Of Change.

>>54115181
>nobody will put up with my autism

I lol'd.

If you randomly pick one thing to bitch about, despite WILLINGLY KNOWING you ought to be bitching about other things, or you let certain equivalent things slide, you are an annoying, noisy hypocrite.

Everyone is a hypocrite. Everyone. It's just that most of us have the good sense to not be noisy and annoying about it, realizing full well how hypocritical it would be of us to single out any one vice and not the others we knowingly abet.

This is simple common sense, something you obviously lack. If it's too hard for you, go with the age old "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all".

Reieieiiieieieivers

>>54115091
Because this shit is inescapable and as I said, GW is only "kinda dickish" rather than evil.

>>54115207
This is a recipe for nobody ever complaining about anything and nothing ever changing for the better.

>you want to end slavery? Hypocrite! There are other problems in the world!
>votes for women? Ditto!
>don't like this war we've got going on? Same again!
>want me to stop punching your mother in the face? Think again, bucko! Lots of mothers get punched in the face!

(not the same anon btw)

>>54115163

lol, those reprints were fan-friendly moves. They dampened the second-hand value of everything Wizards printed after that point, because now fans know that tournament staples will eventually be reprinted. This move was good for the community.

>>54115194

If you say so.

I would be a hypocrite if I ran my OWN unethical gaming company and then criticized GW. If I criticize GW but don't criticize another company I'm just being inconsistent; that might be because I am biased, or it might be because I don't know about the other company, or it might be because I have different opinions about that other company. You don't know any of that, you're just saying "BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER EVIL IN THE WORLD???" because it offends you when people criticize GW.

"Games Workshop is Bad!"
"What about this other company that's bad?"
"Well, I don't know, what about them? Lets talk about them."

That exchange makes sense to me.
Or,

"Games Workshop is bad and Hasbro isn't!"
"You're being inconsistent, here's why Hasbro is bad, and if you can't admit that Hasbro is bad then in order to be consistent you must retract your criticism of GW."
"Shit, you've got me." (Or, alternately, "You've misjudged Hasbro" or "You've misunderstood why I hate GW).

Like the exchange I just had, that was good, and it really does make me think that I should pay more attention to what this company's lawyers are doing, because I'm helping to pay those lawyers.

But, when it goes like,
"Games Workshop is bad!"
"Other bad companies exist too!"
"Shit, you're right, I retract my criticism."

This exchange makes no sense.

>>54115242

"This shit is inescapable". So you're a limp-dicked defeatist and you don't think you should spend any effort trying to make the world better?

Or even, like, make YOUR world better?

>>54115238
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEvers

>>54113999

Parasitism is how capitalism works. Parasitism is what gives the consumer leverage.

It always amuses me how the most staunch alt-faggots laud capitalism until it doesn't do what they want anymore.

If GW didn't want to get fucked by 3rd parties literally all it would have to do is release a better product- that includes both price and quality.

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>>54110351
They have the best reivers

>>54115310

Capitalism =/= markets.

Markets are about competition, like you said.
Capitalism is about big companies getting bigger. Competition isn't good for capitalism, capitalists are more about monopolies and price-fixing and manufacturing demand for their own products.

>>54114926

What the fuck? I'm not him and I barely give a shit about this discussion but suck a dick you little bitch. You don't speak for anyone but yourself. His shitty opinion is worth just as much as your shitty opinion.

>>54109693
it looks realistic

TURN IT OFF

>>54115101

Are you really trying to pretend that essential items like power and food are comparable to luxury hobby?

>>54115059
Ex-British Army myself.

These units are only in vehicles. In drop trucks between the seats int he cabs even.

No reason not to have them and means you can prepare food and brews inside the vehicle safely. Not seeing a problem.

>>54115113

I think that being a judgmental consumer is worth your time. Its not just that you are committed to their game, you are CHOOSING to REMAIN committed. And I don't think you'll feel good about that decision in 10 years; I mean, I'm not saying all GW fans are automatically unhappy, but if you already hate the company now and if their practices aren't changing, then, well...

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>>54109693
Hips needs to be wider and waist narrower for maximum reverse trap.

I just hired a Carpeinter and a Plumbier to work on my Hoiuse and they said I needed an Elictricien but it was all trademarked by GW. maybe I should call a Reiieieiieieiver...

>>54109488
That halo indicates that he is next in command of the squad if the Sergeant falls.

>>54110442
Yep, I think a next campaign pack released is gonna be traitor mechanicus, with cawl having gone too far.

>>54115314
I know GW is showing off the fact that Marines don't have to squat anymore, but their poses are 2 static 4 me. At least one could be running forwards.

Also not a fan of their 'skipped leg day' armour, though the upper body is fine. 6/10 models for me.

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>>54115416
iron halos are sometimes used to mark a squad's second, but they're also a mark of honour in their own right

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>>54115440

>>54112397
What's with the exposed jawbone? Have you ever even seen a jew?

>>54112397
Looks like Ganondorf

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>>54112003
>The skulls are cartoony instead of the typical chaplain helmet, and they're wearing capris with croc shoes.

>>54109289
>who are the Reivers?
Chadmarines who skipped leg day. Just look at those calves. Pathetic!

>>54115580
The chaplain and eversor look intimidating and like an actual skull. The Reivers meanwhile look fucking flat and lacking any leer.

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>>54115604
Only to lesser races.

>>54115457
did you read my post or look at my image

Iron halos are used as the mark for squad leader, but they are also a badge representing marines who have demonstrated exceptional initiative.

>>54115580
Is that chaplain to scale?

Also, more confirmation that space elf models = best models

>>54115626
I only confirmed your post.

>>54112301
>racism on 4chan has been a /pol/ only thing

Newfag pls

>>54115635
>posting to agree with people
What fresh hell is this?

>>54115071
Yeah they do and even then you rarely if ever use them, we used them to fuck around with sense we always stripped our mre down to absolutely necessary shit
>>54115095
The website says military use
>>54115121
They use the same mre we use, they have heaters
>>54115150
That's what being back in the fob is for
What were you in that allowed you to cook whenever you wanted?
>>54115362
Do you guys not get the chemical heaters?

>>54109289

so whats the point on having a regular Primashit marine but taking off the basic equipment and just giving him a pistol and a fucking knife????

What the fuck is Rowboat smoking

>>54115659
He liked striking scorpions.

>>54110729
I fondly remember GW's great naming sense with IRON HAND, LEADER OF THE IRON HANDS, WHO HAS AN IRON HAND

And the ULTRAMARINES, who are blue

>>54110697
who would buy that?

>>54115662

That or he's ripping off the Night Lords.

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>>54115771
They use sonic weapons, might be result of "cultural exchange".

>>54110351
>Space Sharks
Untill they meet my Chaos Nippos and end up as a shark-fin soup.

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>>54115580

Best skull-faced miniature coming through. Haters gonna be jealous of my fabulous streamers.

>>54115604
agreed

>>54109403
Well every chapter has bikes, yet the white scars aren't redundant, their bikers are just extra bikey.

>>54115314
are they monopose?

>>54115925
These ones are from snap fit starter set, future ones might be posable or not.

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>>54115314
reminds me of these guys

>>54115658
It's for making tea you peasant.

>>54112947
how is it even pronounced?
reevers?
rhyvers?
rayvers?

>>54112947

Old english mate. Old english. It's not that complicated.

>>54112947
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Reivers

>>54109289
These look like shit and make no sense, they basically are scouts in power armor.

The new libby is cool though.

>>54111843
Looks like shit though.

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>>54109693
it bothers me that he has two pistols and one holster.

>TFW every time you want to open a door you have to put you sword on the ground.

>>54116923
I would assume it's magnetized like his guns.

>>54116923

>implying numarines use doorknobs instead of kicking in every door like the alphas they are

>>54115059

This

We never used ours once

Hell I bet they were from Desert Storm they were so old so who the hell knows if they still worked, not that we ever had the time to use them

>>54117074
>implying numarines can fit through door jams in either case

Primaris Marines are for outdoor only.

>>54113999
Spotted the autistic

>>54116834
>riever
>fyre
Can these even be trademarked?

>>54119191
Basically anything can be trademarked provided you can prove a strong enough association with your brand. Eldar and Chaos are both trademarked by GW, even though they came from Tolkien and Moorcock respectively (specifically chaos as a corrupting, body-warping demonic force).

>>54109693
>>54110468
I actually like this

realistic proportioned space maroons
amazing

>>54115362
Is that really necessary? If I wanted to boil water I'd use a metal container and put it over the engine. You need to be running something to generate electricity either way, so why carry extra shit like this when a kettle and a truck engine work?

>>54112504
>MARINES LOL

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>>54117868
>Primaris are for outdoor only
>Regular marines are for first floor only
The astra militarum beats its competition, yet again!

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>>54111791
O-oh fuck.

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>>54112021
>>54112045
>>54112112
>>54112175

>>54115377
>Tiny robed mortal, hold my shield.

>>54109663
>BBC mandigomarine
>Chadmarine
>Shitty wittle little dicklet memerine

>>54115658
Brits don't have chemical heaters. They have little stoves.

>>54109289

So imperial players can now get terror squads as well as crisis suits , grav tanks and Nobz because someone in GW decided the game should.just be Imperium Vs chaos who lose as there stuff isn't as good.

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>>54110851
>>54110764

>"I hate this new thing! It doesn't have decades of decades of flavor and the works of hundreds of people on it!"

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>>54112199

>>54115580
Is it wrong of me that i looked at this image and thought... "I bet there is a Loss edit of this"

>>54109663
They forgot an old school marine to really show the scale creep

>>54113756
Scottish reivers stole cattle, anon.

>>54110729
If you want generic scifi, you can get it anywhere. Fascist knight-monk space übermensch less so.

>>54114926
Right back atcha, why doesn't anyone care about your post? Why does anyone even bother posting on a vuvuzelean engraving square ever?

I think the primaris marines are cool, but i understand why fans of older models are upset. Personally, I just like that their upper legs are a bit bulkier, the old marines looked like they needed to stop skipping leg day to me.

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>>54124149
>It also clashes thematically with decades of work by the people who defined the setting.
>Why should it fit with prior lore, the theme or any of the central tenants of the setting?

>>54127000
Daily reminder that this is just a quote from Vulkan meaning that its just his opinion. How he views the setting.

>>54126653
>he thinks his opinion is worth enough to respond to 17 hour old bait

You must be a special kind of fucktard.

>>54126653
You cared enough to respond. And the smart people don't post here anymore. Only retards and the cripplingly bored are here now.

>>54124201
>those robes
Finally an art that shows properly tatteres robes. We always see DA in pristine robes when these should be torn to bits on a minute under combat, considering the amount of firepower SM tend to wade through.

>>54115630
Hopefully Guilliman will unite the space elves with the Imperium. Imagine how much we could learn from one another. United we stand, divided we fall.

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>>54111180
I think that's the core of what people seem to instinctively dislike about this new development. Even with all the hilarious skub that is the HH books, there's enough of that depth and realism we all like.
But when handwavy macguffins are trotted out to the fore no matter the cool factor or if the changes that come with them are good, when they can be explained with a parody of a bitchy ignorant teen while making more sense it just doesn't taste the same.
This amuses me.

>>54114826
Okay where is final numbers from May report?

>>54130110
Why don't you go fucking get it yourself to prove your claims faggot

>>54109289
Somebody make a 'who are the myth busters' edit

>>54115326
>Capitalism is about big companies getting bigger. Competition isn't good for capitalism

No your describing Corporatism, which has supplanted Capitalism in our country.

>>54130510
Quick anon, explain how a system based on the rich being rewarded for being rich doesn't lead to corporation coopting the law to their own benefit.

>>54130537
"The doctrine of free competition is essential to the functioning of a capitalist economy, and as such, anti-competitive behaviour in the market poses a crucial weakness in capitalist economics. Issues such as monopolistic behaviour on the part of corporations, and aspects of intellectual property laws pose problems to capitalist economies."

>>54109289
>vox-amplified roars

So Girlyman is openly stealing tactics from Banshee's and Xenos in general ?

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What the fuck does "Reiver" even mean? It looks like a fucking made up word. Well, no, it looks like a kid misspelled a real word. It sounds like something that should be drawn in crayon accompanying a Deviantart DOnut Steel image.

>>54119347
Because you don't need that much power especially when you're running 24 volts,or two 12 volts in parallel.

>>54130608
>How do I google?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Reivers
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/reiver

>>54130608
"Border reivers were raiders along the Anglo-Scottish border from the late 13th century to the beginning of the 17th century. Their ranks consisted of both Scottish and English families, and they raided the entire Border country without regard to their victims' nationality. Their heyday was perhaps in the last hundred years of their existence, during the time of the Stewart Kings in Scotland and the Tudor dynasty in England."

>>54130630
>>54130632
Non that anon, makes me depressed they're infantry and not light cavalry

STEALTH BIKES

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwir0tznzuzUAhVH>OrwKHWxjD3AQFggvMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBorder_Reivers&usg=AFQjCNHQ4LzpBT59rrnEX3ZH5DNQf1sr0w

or it could be GW being edgy and shit misspelling reavers, but eh

>>54130632
>>54130630
Oh, so it's just stealing a word that they have barely any relation to space marines, okay.

Did I miss the part where they guard boarders and do river piracy?

>>54130650
probably both

>>54130655
>Oh, so it's just stealing a word that they have barely any relation to space marines, okay.

How much do the mongols, vikings, romans, tuetonic knights, have to do with space marines

>>54130683
If these Reivers were invented my space scots then i'd concede.

>>54130423
>to prove your claims
wut?

Im Guard so i really don't care, just wish they hurry up and bring out the individual codex's, my inquisitor isn't even playable

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>>54130688
Storm Warden Reivers when?

>>54115457
>Squad leader & Sergent are different
Wouldn't the Sergent be in charge?

>>54130761
The Squad Leader was the second-in-command in older fluff.

>>54116020

Man that game was a disaster.

>>54115664
>One thing was kinda dumb
>All things ever done in the past were dumb
Are you still judged for that one time you wet your pants in kindergarten, anon?

>>54127040
>Opening quote used to originally describe the setting
>B-but muh Black Library said it was just what one guy said, so you're btfo, right?

>>54130761
>Sergent

>>54127040
>Vulkan
>40k introduction

>>54127000
>clashes thematically
care to elaborate on that?

>>54130566
try again

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>>54130607
'vox amplified' only means it's grunting and yelling coming from the vox grille on their helms instead of their mouths, it doesn't mean they're going to be howling banshees or noise marines....

>>54130655
the autism in this post

>>54130778
current in IA books

>>54130608
u mad

>>54122415

/pol/ was right again...

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>>54109289
>Who are the Reivers?

>>54111843

That looks silly though, he can't look down.

>>54131648
>space marines looking anywhere but straight ahead
What are you some kind of heretic?

>>54109797
Reivers is a name for raiders who attacked the border counties in England years ago. It's stupid and barely related, but there is some historical precedent to the name.

>>54109289
So wait.

Wait. Bruh. Wait.

There's Space Marines.

Wait a second, listen bruh.

There's Space Marines.

But they can fly. They can fly.

No. Wait. Just a moment. Bruh. Wait.

They can fly, and they have a bolt pistol. And. A swerd.

They are Space Marine. Who can fly. With a bolt pistol. And a swerd.

Bruh.

Bruh. Hum.

>>54131763
How's he meant to aim at all the manlet chaos marines and tau then?

>>54131847
He lets the manlet marines do that instead. Chads fight chads. Anything else is insulting

>>54130761
Squad Leader led the second combat squad.

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>>54127000
>Clashes with the settings theme
>Psychotic Warrior monks murderfucking everything in sight to survive
Yeah I could see how it might not fit with that theme

Or the theme that nothing you do matters
Or the theme of hope
Or the theme of might is right
Or the theme of the bloody regime
Wait a minute....

>>54130510
you can also refer to it as crony capitalism. I prefer to refer to it as such.
>>54130537
>Quick anon, explain how a system based on the rich being rewarded for being rich doesn't lead to corporation coopting the law to their own benefit.
nigga that's literally every system.
Only republican/democratic models have some inoculation against it (on the account of it being a Representative system not a direct oligarchy) but as the system ages it loses that.

.
>>54130566
shit where is that from.