Board Game General /bgg/ - Modern Classic Edition

> who is bgg?

The age of bgg
>5% 21 or younger
>40% 21 to 30
>35% 31 to 40
>20% 41 or older

Been to a con?
>70% to 80% have

Gender?
>1 or 2 females
> the rest of us are male

Relationship?
>60% single
>20% qt3.14 gf/bf
>20% married


I wonder how close my estimations are...
>As for me:
Im 23 years old, male, single and never been to a con.
>Bonus fact:
started really getting into the hobby about a year ago and i have somewhere around 100 games.

>>54095183
>started really getting into the hobby about a year ago and i have somewhere around 100 games
This makes you a collector not a gamer, how many have actually hit the table?

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>local games shop told me that Dominion 2nd Ed. will come out in August for my language (I assume that means September then)
I don't wanna wait...

>>54095503
There's a 2nd ed of dominion? I was "about" to buy the the old one.

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>>54095549
Yes. The 2nd edition is already out in English for the base game and a few of the expansions, but it takes a while for translations, especially for the expansions.

Out of the original Camel Up and Camel Up Cards, which one is preferable?

>>54095183
>27 years old
>Haven't been to a con
>Male
>Have a beautiful girlfriend

A poll may be easier to keep your data in one place

>>54095183
> 49.5 years old
> Have been to multiple Cons
> Male
> Married

>Inb4 old-fag is old

>29 years old
>No Cons
>Male
>Married

I want an area control game.

There are problems with Inis.
There are problems with Cyclades.
There are problems with Kemet.
There are problems with Blood Rage.

Do I just keep playing El Grande? Why can nobody do better than this 20+-year-old game?

>>54097171
What about Shogun?
You can buy the expansions for el grande if you haven't.

>>54097171
Twilight Struggle, Tigris & Euphrates? There's an awful Dice Tower/WIP/Stronghold top 10 on it
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uFfqq3mduE

>>54095385
A little more than half of them but of course many of those have just been played once. I do consider myself a collector and a gamer. I have a game night tomorrow as well as sunday lol my biggest issue is having a regular gaming group that is as enthusiastic about playing as i am, i mean ai got a bunch of friends ive introduced to designer games n got them interested when at first they were doubtful. So i have people to play with. But i dont have structure and the types of games everyone likes kinda separates everyone into 4 or 5 groups which sounds micw but then again its been really on n off in terms of committment and i cant get stuff like level 7 to the table unless i wanna do a one on one type deal.

Anyways, you're half right if you ask me but wuddo i know lol i definitely had/have a problem with not spending my money on a bunch of games all at once, but dont we all have that problem?

>>54096334
I was thinking the same thing, gonna make one on survey-maker.com and post it unless someone else suggests something better

>>54096334
I just finjshed making it and took it myself and it says limited to 25 responses =-= its a test version for a free trial lol it totallt looked free!! >>54097678

>>54095183
>>54096334
>>54096445

Ok guys here's the survey, I already submitted mine. it gives results immediately to the user in case anybody else is curious.

https://www.survey
monkey.com/r/8JQZQQX

>>54096729
see
>>54097863

What are your guys opinion on Smash Up? I saw it and the expansions on sale at my FLGS, but I wanted some thoughts on it before I pulled the trigger. Seems like a simple enough game but is it actually fun? My gaming group is usually 2-4 people. Occasionally 5-6 but that's fairly rare

>>54097171
>I want an area control game.
Erm, chess?

As long as you don't play competitively (it's a pretty crap tournament game) it's great.

Also, strange as it might sound, Ticket to Ride. The set collection mechanic is stupid, but the area control elements in it are top-notch. (You need Ticket to Ride Nordic if you play two or three players.)

why is it that games like senet or hnefatafl arent being sold in stores when a crapton of companies can make them since theyre historical domain

>>54098138
I was really looking forward to playing it, but found it really lame. We used all of the expansions, I think. I was the only first time player in the group but won in a landslide due to good combination/draws. It seemed like the whole group was glad to see the game end though, just really isn't much fun once you get past the cool theme/ mash up thing.

>>54099104
Because making the game is not the hard part.

>>54099989
And by making I mean printing, not designing.

>>54099104
Limited shelf space, no demand, and it takes attention/space away from games that are more interesting and sell better.

Also, every board game store I've been to has at least, 10 different Chess/Checkers sets, 20 different dice sets, 30 playing card decks, and a couple sets each of Go, Backgammon, Cribbage, Tarot, Mancala, Shogi, and probably some others I'm forgetting.

Also, those old games that aren't in stores? Most of them just aren't much fun to play. Senet, Hnefatafl, Patolli, the Royal Game of Ur, etc. I guess they probably went extinct for a good reason, while better games like Shatranj survived and evolved.

>>54096302
Anyone have an opinion?

>>54101081
Haven't played either, but at a glance the tactility factor seems to be part of the fun, so I'd go for the original. Especially since there are usually better card games.

>>54101315
That's what I was thinking. Thanks anon

>>54095385
Collector starts somewhere in the 200-300 range bro. I got to 100 easily without even trying

>>54099104
Because people aren't going to buy it just because you can make it. I guarantee if you ask most people about those games they'd have no fucking clue what you were talking about. Plus most people in my experience barely ever want to play chess/checkers anymore. Good luck talking them into the ancient Egyptian equivalent. The people who want those games will seek them out online through a specialty retailer but it's impractical for a store to stock them

>>54101579
If they're not being played, they're not games they're collector's items. If you bought a couple dozen paintings you'd be an art collector, doesn't matter that museums have thousands more compared to you.

>>54097614
>but dont we all have that problem
You'd be surprised at the number of people in /bgg/ who don't. Plenty of anons in here have small collections and a few have even been pretty vocal about keeping the number under 10-20. Hell I got back into the hobby in my mid 20s last decade and the first 4-5 years back only picked up 20-25 new games and kept the tab under $200 to do it. Plus we always have lots of people lurk who are new to the hobby and just want to see opinions rather than buy everything all at once.

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Can anyone who has played this give me their thoughts?

>>54097171
Play Dune.

>>54102085
Very scary in the right mood, and very funny otherwise. Quite worth the PnP.

Im thinking of purchasing mansions of madness 2nd edition. What am I in for?

>>54102742
Buyers remorse and post-purchase rationalization

chess

if a pawn takes a piece at the end of the board does it also rank up?

>>54103391
Yeah, it made it to the end of the board

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New sci-fi 4X game. Kickstarter campaign launches July 18th. Keep your eyes open.

>>54094772
Going to PAX Unplugged. First con ever.

What should I expect?

>>54103903
This looks like garbage
Don't back this shit

>>54103903
>4Xs on box
>not 4X
why?

>>54103903
It looks more like a space-themed railgame.

>>54104090
Why?

Recently moved to Southern Brooklyn. Are there any good game shops around here? Is the hobby even alive in a city like NY?

>>54103903
Sorry Anon, but you'll have a tough sell - I really love 4x games, but Empires of the Void II already high KS and is due in December.

>>54104060
If it's anything like PAX East - then A LOT of board gaming nerds in one spot. I've met a lot of nice folks and tried a ton of different board games at East over the years.

>>54103903
Since the other Anon didn't do this - if anyone is interested - it looks like there's a free to play version of Master of the Galaxy available online.

https://tabletopia.com/games/master-of-galaxy

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Anyone in the mood for a round of Sub Terra over at Tabletopia.com?

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>>54104060
General Con Advice 1/2
>Expect to be tired after the first day, and dead by the end of the weekend.
There is a lot going on, you will prolly do a good bit of walking, and games drain your brain pretty good if you're playing them non-stop
>General rule for cons is 6-2-1 (hrs sleep/meals/showers per day)
PLEASE GET THE 1 IF NOTHING ELSE. Every year at Gencon there's ~5 times a day where the stench is so bad you can taste it and there's just no excuse for it. If you're a bigger gamer and you know you sweat, carry deodorant with you and reapply if need be.
>bring snacks with you
it's easy to forget meals, and end up tired and with a monster headache, portable stuff can prevent that.
>don't just eat grease/fried stuff
You will be a wreck if you eat crap all day every day you're at a con. Eat some fruit and veggies from time to time so you're not on the shitter day 3-4 crying (my nephew learned a good lesson at WYC this year)
>carry a water bottle.
Summer cons are hot and sweaty even indoors. If you're averse to chlorinated city water get some tea bags (helps with the tired) or some of those Mio/Koolaid/etc squeeze bottles to help disguise it. A 2nd polycarbonate water bottle is excellent for storing snacks you don't want crushed in your bag (caramel corn for the gf)
>don't try to do everything
There's never enough time, you will lose sleep or food or both and feel worse.
>comfortable shoes
Make sure they've got support and are comfortable walking around in all day. If you need to buy new, get em a week ahead so you can break them in. Wool hikers socks are good to prevent blisters if you're prone
>phone charger is good, spare battery is better
Meeting up with friends, checking the interwebz, maps, etc, you'll run it out easy every day.
>bring cash
You're not going to need a lot, but it's helpful to have some on hand for splitting bills, getting through lines faster, sometimes vendors will give % off for cash

>>54106110
2/2
>try to keep your bag light
Similar to shoes, you need to think of it like trail hiking, you're going to carry that all day off and on, and if you buy anything that's extra weight
>take vitamins/aspirin/benadryl/etc
There's those effervescent vit C tabs that're really good at keeping people on their feet too
>hand sanitizer
Wet wipes are also a good idea and I find easier to keep on hand
>get a map
local area/convention center/hotel. one on your phone is nice, a printed one on 50-110lb stock can be rolled up and put in a pocket (having everyone's schedule is good too)
>find a room/restaurant/cafe/whatever that's out of the way
There's plenty of smaller alcoves that are just outside the main convention halls, and getting just a few feet of space and fresh air is massive. Even better if there's a low traffic/CLEAN bathroom nearby
>look up any designers going to be at the con
If one of your favorites is there, bring the rulebook (lighter than the box) and a sharpie so you can have it signed, even better if you can get a pic with the designer to put inside the box lid
>eat at odd hours or make reservations if you want to eat out
1130-130 is generally busy, try to go 30 minutes earlier or later, or maybe an early dinner at 4
>don't overschedule
7-8hrs gaming seems to be a sweet spot for your first time. It'll give you time to explore, get something to eat, breathe, etc
>make sure not to schedule MUST DO events back to back
nothing wrong with having lots on your schedule if you're ok with dropping out of events
>have a strict budget
TOYS! TOYS! TOYS! TOYS! TOYS! TOYS! you will overspend if you're not careful
>talk up the vendors day 1-2 buy days 3-4
Unless it's an early release, or you know the game is going to sell out, chatting up a vendor can get you a deal the last day when they don't want to take stuff home. Ask questions (even if you know the game) they'll remember you, let them think you're waffling and they'll cut a deal to get a sale
>HAVE FUN

>>54105273
There are LGSes in Brooklyn for sure. I can't remember which one was more highly recommended but there's Brooklyn Strategist, Compleat Strategist, Twenty Sided Store, and Kings Games.

>>54106110
>>54106147
Thanks sounds like all around good advice

>>54107130
Lots of meetup groups in NYC. I live in queens and attend ones in Queens and Manhattan, but I know there are some in Brooklyn.

>>54104060
Bring a DS. You won't get near my as many streeetpasses as you would at an anime convention, but you will get enough to sit down and /constantly/ receive puzzle pieces.
Which is a terrible use of time, but it's a decent option while walking or during short waits.

>>54107264
>it's a decent option while walking or during short waits.

Or you know, you could engage your eyes and brain and look around. Fucking millenials always needing to be glued to some mobile idiotbox or another.

>>54108021
>bait
Anyhow ask a man who just bought 150 dollars worth of legendary anything.

>>54108173
>bait
And why exactly is it bait? Maybe it is too much to ask of todays braindead youth to take an interest in the world around them, especially when we've got more money than sense twats like you with your glib replies and general stupidity.

>>54108253
That's not a question about legendary at all. I'd be more then happy to talk to you about it if you want though.

>>54108021
Go back to bed grandpa.

>>54096445
excuse me sir, please take the survey. thank you.

>>54107264
>terrible use of time, but it's a decent option while walking or during short waits
The massive amount of people playing Pokemon Go at Gencon last year............ it was basically bumper cars on the sidewalks.

>>54108253
>And why exactly is it bait?

Because you suck at teaching?

Rather than presenting the notion that looking around while wandering the Con is a great way to find pick-up games, make new friends, and check out new / previously unknown board games, you came off sounding like 'snobby dickhead'. (And in case you didn't know, many of the Cons - like PAX - are well known for their gatherings of hand-held console fans who are looking for a chance to make new contacts and gain new loot.) Any other questions about why folks are reacting to your comment the way they are?

>>54108925
You have to wait for the elderly to finish their constitutional you know, you young whipper-snappers! ;)

And in case I'm not the only one who was unaware - apparently Ars Techinca has a section of board game reviews...

https://arstechnica.com/series/ars-cardboard/

>>54109105
If I've learned anything is that videogame review sites are total shit, I'd rather get the opinion of some literally who with a youtube channel than a "game journalist".

>>54109851
>most respectable journos take early retirement in the last 15 years
>entire field now plagued with assholes who don't know how to investigate/review/cite/verify/have a shred of integrity
>journalists all have incestuous relationships with whoever they're supposed to cover
You shouldn't trust any media right now, print's dying of sepsis and the internet has always been a giant Ganges river of shit. Then again I'm an old man who's prolly too cynical to be trusted either

>>54106110
>>54106147
Thanks anon, I shall try to remember this for the day when I actually become a congoer

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>>54110035
>>54107145
There's plenty of good videos/blogs out there too, Dice Tower, Chaz, I think even SUSD did one that's halfway decent with basic info like this. The taking care of yourself is a biggie (and easily forgot), but I'm always trying to find new ways to do make the experience better.

If you're in a major metro area I highly suggest looking for a small regional/suburban Con to get a feel for it. They're often in single hotels, have fewer vendors and more gaming, and a good way to find what kind of scheduling works for you. Also a lot cheaper (especially if you're parking at the hotel and can load your car up with a big cooler and tailgate your meals), some are free, and a good way to meet local gamers.

If you're doing a big con for the first time the best thing I can suggest is to under-schedule yourself, and spend the first year getting your bearings. Get home, take lots of notes on your experiences, and go back year 2 with a plan. Every year my friends and I debrief a week after when we've had time to think, and try to figure out what pissed us off the most and how not to repeat it.

>>54110272
You guys over do it. I just go, walk around, play some games, and otherwise have a normal day as if I was on holiday.

>>54110456
>over do it
That's pretty much everyone in the hobby in some aspect or another

>just walk around play games
If you're doing a big con and you don't get your tickets/events scheduled ahead you're likely not playing anything. Hell at Essen they have rushes from the doors every morning to get a seat and playtest games. When I do local cons I don't plan anything though, it's just show up and spend the day with friends in whatever city I'm visiting.

>as if I was on holiday
Yeah that's why we turn off the phones/work email, tell everyone to fuck off for a week. But I don't want to come back from vacation having eaten poorly and feeling like shit, or missing 3 hrs of sleep a night so by the end of the weekend it's like you missed a full night's sleep. My friends and I are all old anyhow, most of our notes each year are "damn that place's food sucked I don't wanna waste money there again, write a note because we all have alzheimers"

>>54095183
22
Yes, but anime. Going to a comic book/movie con this month
Male
Virgin

>>54109851
I don't trust any professional reviewers at all. With video games especially, but not limited to.
It's all a giant fucking marketing campaign, that's what reviews are. Even if the site isn't plastered in ads of the product they're "reviewing", it's still all written by journalism rejects in desperate search of a job, often with limited knowledge and a crippling fear of going against the grain.
I'd much rather get advice from a bunch of jaded neckbeards on a hobby forum, picking the most bitter cunts specifically. At least they nitpick everything to the tiniest bits so you can make a better guess yourself if it's any good.

>>54110272
What doe everyone think of Rahdo? I personally find him patronizing and rambly at times

>>54110608
Well I only do small cons.
Fuck going to events where you get drowned in people and it's some sort of race.

>>54110778
>we don't like games where you fight
>my wife tells me I don't like games where you fight

He's a cuck and I find him annoying as fuck.

>>54110813
I get that; if I didn't have family that lived 10 min from downtown Indy, and there was no room/board cost I wouldn't do Gencon on a bet. Helps I started going when it was still smaller too.

>>54110778
Two problems
>he only reviews games he already knows he's going to like (unless someone paid him to review a game via KS)
This means everything is a rave review and there's no baseline
>ADHD combined with a shaky camera at times
It's not quite so bad I'm nauseous but it's not good

Skip to 1:06:30
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECNaOwtbp-c

>>54106110
>>54106147
This stuff should be in the pastebin that no one ever updates.

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>>54111517
>get mini painted for new player in PFS group
>next mario kart mat
>pvc pipe storage
>dawn patrol 6 piece map
>ammo crate inspired storage
>finish group reco chart
>finish kids chart
>finish schadenfreude chart
>update pastebin with con info/tips
Added it to my gaming to-do list, but I'm headed to bed soon. Tomorrow is gonna be a long day doing landscaping but then I'm off til Thursday and wanted to get 3+ of the hobby shit cleared off my desk. Pastebin would actually be an easy one, most of my advice posts like that are already in a couple word documents. If people want con info added I actually have a list somewhere on my computer of all the small/regional cons.

>>54106110
>>54106147
All good advice.

Also, remember to just relax and have fun. Don't stress out about scheduling 6 gorillion games. Go with the flow. Be friendly and try new games.

>>54110778
While I can appreciate his enthusiasm, his disjointed style while trying to present game play means I don't often watch his videos. I much prefer the likes of Rodney Smith, or folks with a similar style when I'm trying to learn how to play a game. For straight up game reviews I'll look at a lot of different sources - though I tend to prefer reviewers who can list the mechanical features of a game and why they think said mechanics work / don't work in the game. Reviews that are simply "Like what I like! Stop liking what I don't like!" turn me off.

>>54111517
>This stuff should be in the pastebin that no one ever updates.

I've updated it repeatedly. Not that anyone reads it to notice.

>>54110272
Any of you guys going to cons in the next few months? It would be cool to game with fellow /bgg/ lurkers.

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>>54111709
>Don't stress out about scheduling 6 gorillion games
Way way way too late for that
>spend two weeks finding events for family/friends leading up to event tickets going live
>end up with cobbled together 3rd/4th options, schedule pretty good 2-3 games a day
>4 weeks pass, final chance to buy tickets before they're shipped this weekend
>filling in with free events because fuck it why not, we'll ditch them anyhow
>gf suddenly decides she's coming to gencon for the first time ever. buys badge, asks what we're doing and what day we're headed down to my sister's
>cue nuclear meltdown
Pic related was the starter sheet I built from, now I'm staring at it again trying to figure out how to juggle shit around to get her into maybe one event every other day

>>54110905
>This means everything is a rave review and there's no baseline

No, it means that that IS the baseline. If you're looking for two player games with minimal player conflict then anything he plays might be worth a look. Also, you can usually tell if he's going through the motions in his final thoughts - "My wife and I enjoyed it quite a bit" = Shit sucks don't bother.

>>54111688
>schadenfreude chart
Now you've caught my interest. Post the unfinished list.

>>54094772
>What's hitting the table this weekend, any game days/nights planned?
Just got back from game night. We played Millennium Blades and Stockpile. Had a person who is not completely new to modern boardgames but not really a regular. I think I might've won him over to coming more often. We all had a great deal of fun.

>It's convention season, been to any events nearby?
I do happen to have a sci fi convention I attend. Being the first year I'll be attending after really diving into the hobby, I think I'll visit the game room and really try getting into a game rather than awkwardly look in and be too scared I won't manage to understand the rules.

>New purchases after payday?
I'm going to be responsible. I have 40 games, 2 of them I have yet to actually play and 8 of them have 2 plays or less. All my bases are covered, I know the rules, I just now need to keep hosting using what I have, which is a LOT.

hey, survey anon here.

In case anybody was curious as to what the results look like so far, here are the basics:

26 total people responded

>>Age
7(26.92%) are 18 to 24
16(61.54%) are 25 to 34
2(7.69%) are 35 to 44
1(3.85%) is 45 to 54 (49.5)

>>Gender
did you guess it?
100% male, 26/26

>>Relationship
10(38.46%) are married
11(42.31%) are single
5(19.23%) have a boyfriend or girlfriend

>>Convention
12(46.15%) have been to one
14(53.85%) have not

I doubt that I'm the only autismo who was curious, so i hope that this has satisfied some of you out there! I wonder how many of us there typically are in these bgg threads... anyways thanks to everyone who took the short survey.

Anybody late to the game who wants to take it:
https://www.survey
monkey.com/r/8JQZQQX

>>54115256
Probably the most well adjusted general in 4chan.

>>54109851
>>54109985
>>54110637
I used to take video game reviewers seriously until MGSV came out and literally everyone gave it a 10/10.

On a side note, the YouTube channel "superbunnyhop" is actually really good. He isn't a shill and provides actual criticism for games

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Which dice placement game should I get? I can't decide between the two of them.

>>54116421
I've played both and after trying Marco Polo I never went back to Alien Frontiers. AF is a fine game but ultimately feels like an early version of what could have been a great game. Like they had a cool idea that was actually good and tried it out a couple times and it turned out to be pretty good but then they didn't try to make it better or work on the details. The initial idea was good so that's where they left it. MP feels like it's been refined and refined and refined to the point where everything is just a harmony of excellent gameplay. Every little aspect of the mechanics in MP is just so wonderful. Everything works together so smoothly.
So unless you are really, really, really into the sci-fi theme of AF I'd definitely suggest MP over AF.

>>54116421

I was going to suggest also looking at Roll for the Galaxy and Quantum, but after reading this Anon's reply - >>54116513, now I want to play Marco Polo...

;)

>>54097863
>https://www.survey
monkey.com/r/8JQZQQX

Not bad Anon, out of 33 unique posters in this thread, 29 people have done the survey. (And apparently /bgg/ is 'No Grills Allowed'.)

>>54110272
There actually is one of these super close to me, and it's pretty cheap with the discount that my local Meetup organizer gets us, but I have zero interest. Board gaming plays fourth fiddle to Larping, RPGs, and fucking POKER. There aren't any vendors, based on the website it's organized extremely poorly, and there's no guarantee that I'll find any players honestly. Meanwhile I could go to my free weekly Meetup where my friends are and play great games.

>>54116421
Troyes

>>54114157
There isn't a list yet really, it was an idea I had when I was editing the wife/gf chart back in March and Steev was on a "crush your enemies" rant against co-ops. Off the top of my head, Survive, Galaxy Trucker, Cosmic, Robo Rally, BSG maybe, Space Alert, Ghost Stories, TS, Cash n Guns, Dune (and not-Dune), Diplomacy (GoT), probably some push your luck games, probably a dexterity game section. It's been low priority, but mostly because games that are good to watch the horror spread on your friends' faces, tend to also be on other recommended lists anyhow.

>>54117624
Yeah, there's definitely a difference between "good regional con" and "hey we have our normal meetup in a hotel this week, and it costs $25 to get in". I'll drive 4 hrs to go to WYC because it's got a full vendor hall with some fun stuff, lending library, large PFS/D&D halls, and there's 2k? gamers there playing for free, or you can drop $25 on a membership and get a swag bag with a couple games, t-shirt, random crap. You couldn't pay me to drive the 10 minutes to DaveCon in my town where they charge $22 to do open gaming and the crowd size is like 150.

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I going on a summer trip with 3 other people. What game should I get with me?

2 of us are into gaming, then one likes/is good at games but is not into the hobby only casually, and the final one hates board games (only enjoys poker but he sucks at it).

>>54116421

http://geekandsundry.com/dice-placement-is-a-thing-and-here-are-five-games-that-do-it-right/

>>54119266
>Wheaton
Really? Just search mechanic on BGG for dice rolling + worker placement

How does one get won over with wargames if one doesn't particularly care for them? I'm talking about me.

>>54118920
Witness, Batman: Almost Got 'Im, Love Letter... anything quick that's easy to pick up.

>>54111953
Oh damn anon, that sounds stressful

>>54118920
Hanabi

>>54120656
>>54120781
Love Letter and Hanabi are fairly cheap. Which one of the two is the best?

>>54121159
Apples and Half-penny nails are both fairly cheap, which of the two is best?

Seriously though Love Letter is a competitive deduction/card counting/trick taking game while Hanabi is a cooperative card/tile laying communication game. It really depends on what your group would like to play.

>>54121468
Love letter because it is more chill I think. Should I go for the boxed or just the bag edition?

I may be dumb but why is king of tokyo so expensive? Is it really worth the $40 price tag?

>>54120709
I actually like the challenge most times, it's like human Tetris/Patchwork to manage 6-8 people and slot them into the right games. This one was just a giant pita because she's known for years if she wanted to go she should mention it in Apr/May.

>>54122352
Yes; but also no. It's expensive because it's so damn popular (combined with Iello production values) so they could price it a bit higher than you'd expect. Yahtzee games aren't complex, so it's all about the components, and theme, if they appeal to you, it'll get played quite a bit. KoT is like Splendor, it's fast to set up/take down, doesn't take long to teach, doesn't take long to play, and doesn't require a whole lot of brain power so it's a nice filler/appetizer. If it's getting played all the time, that makes it a worthwhile $40. If you're the kind of person who wants to play TS and COIN games all day, then it's obviously a waste on your shelf, save the money.

>>54122352
I played KoT and I wasn't overwhelmed by it. If you like it - then check the online discounters - Coolstuffinc.com, miniaturemarket.com, and cardhaus or funagaingames as well as Amazon and see who has it the cheapest.

>>54122692
Iello just put in a MAP, you're not going to find it cheapest anywhere (except maybe amazon because publishers can't bully them) it should be 25% off no matter where you look.

>>54121532
Bag is nice IMO

>>54122736
Thanks buddy. I think so too. Plus it is 1 € cheaper

>>54122712
Actually, places like Funagaingames tend to still charge above the MAP. Which is why I don't usually buy from them or recommend them. And I would think that looking around the Board Game Geek 'Bazaar' or 'Ebay' might still result in finding a 'cheap' copy if one is patient. (And it isn't a game I'm looking to acquire - even 'cheaply'.)

> What's one your 'looking forward to' list Anons?

I'm waiting on:

A Hand Full of Stars
OGRE Miniatures set 1
Empires of the Void II
and the 3rd Exodus expansion

>>54110778
I love Rahdo because his interests line up with me. He's largely there for the 2P-only community. People who like conflict-heavy, best-with-5-player games have no business with him.

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>>54110778
His review of pic related skipped so many rules, but I backed it anyway

>>54124062
>he messes up so much you have to turn on subtitles to catch rules eratta
It is nice that they are the Klingon subtitles though

>>54122352
I prefer KoNY, since it offers a few more choices instead of having 3 sides of the dies be just points.
Generally it's worth it as a game that is fun, has nough player interactions to get your friends going, is short, and can be played with anyone.
It's pretty solid all around unless you prefer more uh, strategic or non random games.

>>54095183
>im so old i no longer fall into the <21 bracket
send help

>not been to a con
>male
>single

Are there any games you refuse to buy because of the theme, even though you're convinced you'd like the gameplay and mechanics?

>>54122712
>Iello just put in a MAP
MAP is one of the biggest "fuck you"s of all time

>>54124843
>I'm so old I no longer fall into the <21 bracket
Umm...that's not old buddy

>>54124852
Dungeon Petz.
Most of the "it's an european village of peasants/farmers" games.

>>54125103
But I still feel like a little underageb& fapping to hentai and stumbling on 4chan chasing porn. Not someone who plays boardgames and has to be responsible

>>54124852
Any Steampunk, Cthulhu, or Zombie game.

>>54125084
The old CMoN model wasn't awful, but the standard one that Mayfair, Iello, and CMoN are using now are pretty awful. I still say the ANA policy is the worst
>We're not saying you can't discount, we're just not going to sell cheap to online vendors, oh and you can't sell online and in-store, also this is for your own good, because piss stinking blacked out window creepy stores are good for the hobby

>>54124323
>Klingon Subtitles
I'll need to contact my middle school self for translation services.

>>54125315
It's still in English, he just had to leave actual English subtitles for the deaf people who watch rahdo run throughs.... which raises the question: do they have an easier time watching his rambling or is it even harder having to read those stream of consciousness rants?

>>54124852
Not exactly the theme, but the art.
Orleans. Jesus fucking Christ the cover is an eyesore. I actually sort of like Klemens' art in Agricola since the simplicity of it all fits the theme and is charming, but the awful pseudo-stylization in Orleans just looks horrendous.

>>54124852
Anything with zombies. Holy fuck I'm so goddamn sick of zombies anymore. Part of me thinks I'd really like Zombicide from what I've seen of it, but I just can't bring myself to buy it

>>54124852
Kanban
I'm severely antipathetic to cars and to post-Victorian industrial settings

What should I be hyped for at Gencon?

>>54125130
Amen brother. I actually popped and got it, and despite enjoying the gameplay immensely I find it a struggle to bring it out and play it.

>>54125963
Legend of the Five Rings

I made The Royal Game of Ur using paper, a sharpie, four pennies, seven paperclips, and seven staple rows. What other games are incredibly easy to make?

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Currently painting my Kemet figures. I don't like how the spider ended up looking so I'm going paint it again.

>>54128047
Nice job anon!

>>54128047
Don't worry too much about the spider, the rhino more than makes up for it.

>>54128069
>>54128198
Thanks guys! Hopefully now Kemet will hit the table more often.

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>>54094772
I picked up a copy of this Buck Rogers: Battle for the 25th Century game today from a thrift store on a whim. It has some nice production value but I dunno if it's worth keeping when I also have Twilight Imperium.

There's no tutorials or reviews on YouTube, just a few written ones on Board Game Geek which seems to describe it favorably, particularly the orbiting mechanic that changes the relative distance between areas between each round as they move around the sun. Anyone here have any opinion on whether it's worth keeping or not?

>>54124852
Tanto Cuore. I'm big into deckbuilders, but the art is just a nonstarter.

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>>54111517
It should be common sense.
I went to a con on the weekend and the entire complex smelled like B.O. So clearly it isn't.

>>54129808
I don't understand how so many people can leave the house without bathing regularly.
The few odd times I have to leave without showering I feel so grody.

>>54119875
Play one with a theme you like.

>>54124852
Zombies, for sure.
Couldn't pay me to own a zombie game.

What are some good euros with surprisingly unique themes? With no trains, farmers, ancient civilizations or merchants in *city name*.

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>>54129861
I felt like that then I got zombicide: Black Plague, but I don't see me getting any other zombie game

>>54130714
Go neck yourself, you're in the wrong thread.

>>54130714
Argent: The Consortium
Imperial

>>54130872
>being this much of an autistic turbofaggot
go back to showing off to your group on how good you are with sucking your own dick

>>54131026
Why are you so triggered over a simple statement of truth? Boardgames are (wait for it) about gameplay. If you don't like gameplay then there's 1001 other hobbies that are focused on art, immersion and storytelling. Boardgaming ain't one of those 1001, sorry.

>>54115256
I just took the survey and 1 person picked female. Either it is someone thinking he is a girl if he wears a skirt, or some woman infiltrated our fort and is about to give us cooties.

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>>54128047
>want to paint bloodrage figures
>never painted before
>think of buying some bargain bin models to train on
>not into w40k or warhammer fantasy so I have nothing to use my painting skills on afterwards

>>54131637
Nah dude. Board games are about pushing your little mans into your friends' little mans and making them fight.

>>54132161
>pushing your little mans into your friends' little mans and making them fight
No, that's action figures.

>>54131637
>>54132192
you're saying that 18XX games don't provide immersion and memorable stories? I'm laughing at your terrible fallacy of an argument rather than being triggered, you need to acquire some '''''taste''''' in '''''good''''' board games

>>54132192
No, action figures are for dioramas and speculation

>>54129836
To a certain extent, con funk is just inevitable. You've got thousands or even tens of thousands of people crammed into a single space, dashing from event to event and taxing air conditioners with their combined body heat.

But there's definitely some real stinkers in cons. I guess it's probably just habit for them - if you don't leave the house very often, and don't feel the need to clean up unless you're going out, you just get used to being filthy.

>>54130714
Scythe
Lewis and Clark
Terra Mystica
Gloomhaven

>>54130714
Anachrony

>>54130714
Power Grid? It's about as Euro as a Euro gets, and it has none of those elements.

>>54132269
>you're saying that 18XX games don't provide immersion and memorable stories?
They might. For some people even watching paint dry provides immersion, especially when stoned.

The undeniable fact is, however, that immersion and stories is *not* the primary purpose of boardgames. Any immersion and stories you experience are purely accidental.

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Tfw you've told MM to ship your held orders and you're waiting for them to ship out

>>54130714
Aquasphere
Trickerion
Bora Bora
Dominant Species
Euphoria
Anachrony

>>54133360
Doesn't Bora Bora run afoul of the 'no ancient civilizations' clause?

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>>54132811
>The undeniable fact is, however, that immersion and stories is *not* the primary purpose of boardgames. Any immersion and stories you experience are purely accidental.

The undeniable fact is bad bait is bad. And your bait sucks.

>>54133739
HEY. Just because the Polynesians live in shanty huts and spend their time fishing, stringing shells and shacking up doesn't make them ancient or civilised you filthy racist!

>>54133771
Aww, did babby run out of arguments?

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/167418/what_makes_a_game?print=1

Here's what makes a game:
a) A problem
b) A competition
c) Some meaningful decisions.

Note the conspicuous absence of 'immersion', 'story' and 'fun'.

Refusing to play a game because it doesn't have your favorite theme is as retarded as refusing to watch a movie because it doesn't feature pretty bow ties.

Yes, movies frequently have bow ties in them, but it is accidental and bow ties are not why people make or watch movies.

In the same vein, games might have 'immersion' and 'story', but that is accidental and that is not why people make or play games. If you have a problem with this fact of life then you need to find another hobby. I suggest tabletop RPG's; they are not games but the closest thing to them that features 'story' and 'immersion'.

>>54134296
0/10

>>54134296
Not that guy, but you sound autistic as fuck.

>>54134332
Whew lad, you finally convinced me with your stellar argument, I'm going to kill myself in shame now.

Seriously though, what are you doing in this general? There are roughly 5000 (give or take) other generals on 4chan much more suited for stupid people.

>>54134380
Not that guy, but you sound autistic as fuck.

>>54134403
Look, it's clear that you've been completely BTFO to the point where people can't even be bothered properly replying to your stupidity. Why don't you just give it a rest, maybe try again later. Tomorrow's another day and all that.

>>54134475
>you've been completely BTFO
No, matey, posting a fish picture with a "0/10" is not the way to 'completely BTFO' someone.

Look, I do le fish rating thingy myself when I'm lazy and I've run out of intelligent things to say, but at least I have the sense to not pretend like I'm winning something when I do that particular species of shitpost.

>>54134187
What? They lied to me in college? Unpossible!...

;)

>>54133322
ma, been such a long time since I last saw that pic. Its really good

Is anyone else waiting for Gloomhaven or KD:M? I can't fucking wait any longer. What are you doing meanwhile?

>>54131637
>If you don't like gameplay
And what makes you think I said any of that? I'm fine with pasted on themes and dry abstracts in disguise, I'm merely curious which games attempted to break the mold somewhat, as a novelty of sorts. If I didn't put gameplay first I wouldn't be asking about fucking euros specifically.
You need to work on your reading comprehension and stop inventing things that aren't actually stated in the text for the sole purpose of sperging out. It's a very bad habit.

>>54133322
How many orders and how far were they spaced out before you had them ship? Always interested to find out how far people push it with hold systems

>>54134296
>http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/167418/what_makes_a_game?print=1

LOL! Actually (mis)quoting Gamasutra and posting the link. Bravo Anon - you are a moron!

>Here's what makes a game:
>a) A problem
>b) A competition
>c) Some meaningful decisions.
>Note the conspicuous absence of 'immersion', 'story' and 'fun'.

Note: Your inability to read the whole article and see what was written vs your desire to cherry-pick a few bits to try and reinforce a failed argument.

"In the end, one of the interesting differences between a simulator and a game is that it's not a valid complaint to say that a simulator isn't fun. Simulators really have no inherent requirement to be fun -- they only need to simulate something."

This clearly implies that the author thinks 'Fun' is in fact an inherent part of games. Otherwise why bother to point out that is NOT a requirement of simulations while comparing simulations to game. Opps!

>Inb4 Anon tries to back-peddle or claim that he knows what the author meant better than the author did...

>Refusing to play a game because it doesn't have your favorite theme is as retarded as refusing to watch a movie because it doesn't feature pretty bow ties.

Nice Straw-man. Perhaps next you'll regale us with your tales of how you bravely and stoically eat foods you strongly dislike "because they're good for you."
Yawn...

>In the same vein, games might have 'immersion' and 'story', but that is accidental and that is not why people make or play games.

What an ego, to bad you don't get to speak for everyone else. (Though it's doubtful that you'll be able to process that considering your apparent ego-problems.) Plenty of games meet the Gamasutra author's definition of "what makes a game" and were in fact written to tell a 'story' using 'immersion' to enhance the fun.

TL:DR - Arguing that no one designs or plays games for 'story', 'immersion' or 'Fun' simply marks you as an idiot

>>54134862
Waiting for KDM 1.5, but have KDM core so it's all good.

>>54131749
I'm always surprised since board games are a lot more social and a lot less about hand-eye coordination than videogames, so they should be more welcoming to the average female. But I guess they are still too unpopular/nerdy or something.

>>54135101
>This clearly implies that the author thinks 'Fun' is in fact an inherent part of games. Otherwise why bother to point out that is NOT a requirement of simulations while comparing simulations to game. Opps!
Really? You can't follow a simple syllogism and you don't even understand a simple implication? I won't even deign to make a witty comment.

> Plenty of games meet the Gamasutra author's definition of "what makes a game" and were in fact written to tell a 'story' using 'immersion' to enhance the fun.
I've already said thrice (*thrice*, you retard) that many games do, indeed, tell immersive stories, but this is an accidental property of games. In the same vein: many movies do, indeed, feature elaborate costumes, but depicting costumes is only an accidental feature of movies.

> TL:DR - Arguing that no one designs or plays games for 'story', 'immersion' or 'Fun' simply marks you as an idiot
Indeed. Good thing I never argued such a thing then!

In the same vein: nobody would ever claim that nobody ever watches movies only for the costumes; there's a ton of female autists who do just that.

>>54107264
I don't own one. Sounds dumb as fuck.

Also won't be on my phone at all, except to take pictures that will make my friends back home jealous/hype for their one day visits

>>54135701
>they should be more welcoming to the average female
Newsflash: they are. Boardgaming is actually the only hobby that's gender-balanced.

It's 4chan that is unwelcoming, not boardgames themselves. (That and the fact that the vast majority of posters here in /bgg/ aren't even serious boardgame players, they're mostly vidya/waifu/RPG idiots.)

>>54135701
Not cool enough yet. Formerly strictly geeky video games went out to the wide public and now there's a relative shitton of women playing. Board games are still largely the domain of nerds - at least in common opinion.

>>54135701
I don't think I've ever seen a one to one ratio like >>54135795 is talking about, but I've never seen a board gaming groups with a more gender-skewed ratio than two to one.

>>54136092
It's closer to even when you account for families and people who game at home rather than the LGS cave trolls and the more skewed convention demographic.

>>54136092
As far as I can tell, women aren't actually "more social". Quite the opposite, very few of them would go out of their way to meet with complete strangers and engage in some unrelated activity.

>>54135076
It was two orders and they were spaced about 5 days apart. They're having a sale on x wing ships so I grabbed a couple that were selling out fast and then I waited and got the rest after payday last Friday.

>>54135756
>> TL:DR - Arguing that no one designs or plays games for 'story', 'immersion' or 'Fun'
>Indeed. Good thing I never argued such a thing then!

>>54134296
>games might have 'immersion' and 'story', but that is accidental and that is not why people make or play games.

And so the back-peddling begins...

>>54136260
"that is not why people make or play games" =/= "nobody every makes or plays games for that".

How can you be that dumb as still be functionally literate?

>>54136422
While theme and and immersion may not be why people play games, for a majority of people, its why they play the games they do. If this wasn't the case abstract games would dominate the market.

>>54136728
>for a majority of people, its why they play the games they do
This is objectively false. If it wasn't then the games with the blandest themes wouldn't be the most popular.

>If this wasn't the case abstract games would dominate the market.
'Abstract game' is a theme, and a very strong and specific one at that. It's the opposite of bland theming.

>>54137125
The more bland the theme the wider the appeal.

>>54094772
So how the fuck do I win at Twilight Struggle? I play with +10 handicap against the computer (I play US against USSR) and I lose everytime, never even get past mid-war.

I just got into the hobby and I might have gone too fast. Bought way too many games and now many haven't hit the table. Plus the group of people I see most often, 99% of the time would rather be playing Catan.

>>54138125
What is happening? Are the russians taking Europe on you? Don't let them take Europe. Play event cards that are really good for you as events, ones that are not great for you (But survivable if they go off for the enemy) to coup, realign, and add influence, and ones that would be calamitous for you to space race.

>>54138163
Solidfy your tastes. Don't worry about the excess games, they're not going anywhere. The ones you find you overbought because you're new should be easy enough to shift later on.

>>54138192
I don't know if the computer can predict the future but it's like it always know when the scoring card will arrive and is able to properly optimize the table so it can score as much as possible. Even when i'm planning to take over a certain region in order to get maximum points from a scoring card I hold, the computer seems to realize this and fucks everything up for me in that region and is able to make it so that I lose points despite me holding that card. There has been so many time where the computer is able to spam its influence in especially Asia and Africa and get away with up to 8 VP and thus reaching 20 VP. The fact that all it does is bringing the defcon to 2 doesn't help either because it makes me unable to do anything about the influence and control it hold everywhere. The first moves the computer makes is always to coup literally everything I hold and screw me over.

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I've been looking for a light to medium game that's easy to get into, not too long (under an hour) and generally fast and fun. Also it has to be playable with 6 people. I've had my eye on Flash Point for a while but after watching the recent Dice Tower review of Downforce that also made it onto my list. What do you guys think? Or is there another game that fits my conditions which you would rather recommend?

Speaking of Twlight Struggle, some suggestions for a friend? I mean he is telling me TS looks difficult/complex to play, maybe is a bad choice to play TS with someone with little experience with board games other than Carcassone base.

>>54138163
As long as you haven't bought piles of unpopular trash, you've hardly lost money. Board games are very easy to sell for a decent price.
Just get them to the table slowly step by step and train your group to like things.

>>54138346
Flash Point is great, and the co-op I often recommend to newer gamers or someone looking for lighter fare, but it's not great at 6. Family variant is far too easy, and advanced version can drag with that many. Right now my go-to for 6 that's fast is Survive, but that does require the expansion to get meeples for players 5-6.

>>54138762
I think I'm ok.
Current collection is Catan, Netrunner +1 Big Expansion, Sushi Go Party, Takenoko, 7 Wonders and Castles of Burgundy. Plus one shit game called Boss Monster.

>>54139143
That's a nice starter collection, you've got Catan, which is a great gateway, Sushi Go for filler, and Takenoko and 7 wonders that are other meaty options once you can wean your group off Catan all the time. Netrunner has a slightly different space as a two-player LCG, not really the thing you bust out at game night.

I can't speak for Castles of Burgundy but I'm pretty sure that like 7 wonders it's a midweight.

I can't speak for Boss Monster but you seem to have done so yourself.

>>54131822
Just watch some rob oren videos and go for it. Unless you have zero, and I mean zero artistic sense and ability, painted Minis are better than not painted Minis. Even if it's your first attempt. Plus you can always redo them if you want after your skills improve.

>>54097171
>There are problems with ____
Sounds like you just need an attitude adjustment because those are all fine games

>>54118920
Giant Ker-Plunk looks unironically great but it needs
A) chicken wire fencing, for smaller gaps
B) slightly thicker/stronger sticks, maybe half inch dowels (which would have the extra fun cutting notches, sometimes forcing you to jiggle it out)
C) filled with shitty beers instead of balls

You could put a scrap of netting at the bottom to keep the cans from breaking

>>54139143
>Boss Monster
Yeah that's one that sold purely on the hype/art style but there's not much game there. It is a better option to have in your collection than say Munchkin, they both tend to appeal to the same crowd, but Boss Monster plays in a fraction of the time. It's still a turkey though, but one with shitloads of addons and expansions because people find the theme/art/nostalgia factor sexy.

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>>54140333
To be fair, the box art for every BM game/expansion IS amazing.

>>54140116
Fuck you, I'm trying to get stuff OFF the game projects list.

>>54141312
Oh it's fantastic art, was the first game I bought after I got back into the hobby in 2012 largely because I saw how cool it looked and knew it'd fit in with my NES collection. I don't even regret paying full retail because I got it at Gencon from Pat Rothfuss' booth, and they gave me one of their promo cards for it and half the game price went to his give 3rd worlders a goat/chicken/etc charity.

>>54135701
Men are early adopters of things. Usually when it becomes popular and is not too difficult women join in. Most women I played with played because of the social aspect, not becuase of the challenge.

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>>54139659
>Unless you have zero, and I mean zero artistic sense and ability,

>>54142157
I have the art skills of a 3rd grader finger painting, I'm still the go-to guy in my group of friends for painting our board games and minis for RPGs. Just watch some Bob Ross and have a small beer or glass of wine to relax and steady your hands, you'll be fine. Also even if you're not great at it, painting minis is a pretty relaxing part of the hobby.

>>54139659
>rob oren
Comfy tutor, and some of his tips have been really helpful. Paint pens for teeth was brilliant, but practicing eyes on paper before trying the model was something I'd never think of. Helped me with forming irises tons.

>>54140333
Ah, so that's why there's so many copies around, I kept wondering why that game was around all corners since it seems to be quite boring.
I'd say Munchkin is superior due to the heavy player interaction though.

>>54139659
Personally I like unpainted minis a lot more than badly painted minis.
But it may be because of the unpainted ones remind me of matcaps in 3d software.

Help me out anons, if you had to choose between King of Tokyo and King of New York, which would you pick? I'm leaning towards New York because there's more things you can do but is it accessible to normies?

>>54143531
Tokyo for the exact opposite reason. Less going on makes it a faster game, which fits as a filler/appetizer, and makes it easier to get on the table with first time gamers.

>>54143531
I think they are both very simple games that anyone will master after playing once.
KoT is simpler, yes, but unless you play with children or absolute idiots, KoNY is about just as "difficult"
The more usual problem is not the game rules, but interpretations of cards.

The debate is usually about how KoT is more agressive and streamlined and ideal as a filler, while KoNY by giving slightly more choices, slows down or makes the game less focused.
Personally I prefer KoNY just because I think having 3 dice sides be just points is boring.

>>54116421
Marco Polo by a mile.

>>54124843
>>21
>old

If I could feast on your blood to be 22 again, I'd do it in s second. No offense.

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>>54124852
I have a copy of Rococo. Nobody will play it.

Mfw.

>>54143531
I'm partial to Tokyo because New York seems just a little over-engineered. Tokyo is fast, silly, and aggressive. KoNY has a lot more mechanics and maybe more meat on its bones, but that comes with being a longer, meatier game rather than a nice filler. There's something to be said for the purity of the more simple version

>>54125868
Orleans is a tough sell, but I love that game.

>>54130714
Trickerion
Food Chain Magnate

>>54143531
KoT. It's the better game.

>>54141312
Personally my group loves Boss Monster. It's a great little competitive game that we can bust out in under 20min, and if you know what you're doing it can make for some great 'fuck you' type gameplay in the early rounds if you on the ball enough to keep a track of other players dungeons.

Boss monster is sweet. It is a clever theme/gamepay, and naysayers itt seem only to know it by the cover of the box.

>play agricola for the first time
>get last place with under 15 points
how is this game supposed to be good if everyone keeps on taking all the spaces i need

>>54145313
You take the spaces before them.

>>54145313
Not sure if serious, but that's the entire point of the game.

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>>54128914
so.. nobody here has heard anything one way or the other about this Buck Rogers game then?

>>54144763
> and if you get lucky it can make for some boring 'fuck you' type gameplay

FTFY

>>54145309
Please turn in your brain card since you're clearly no longer using it.

>>54139143
get coup

>>54134862
Gib me KD:M
Some guy is asking $950 USD for KD:M 1.5 + Gamblers chest + Dung Beetle Knight, Dragon King and Gorm expansions.

I'm so tempted to buy it off him, but I know if i wait I might be able to get it cheaper the next time it goes on sale (if ever).
Help me anon's, should I succumb to paying the premium or be patient?

>>54146328
If you're rich, sure. Seems like a waste of money otherwise when you could just wait.

>>54146328
The moment you spend a thousand bucks on a single board game is the moment you should have your head checked.

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>>54145313
>Play agricola for the first time with girlfriend thinking it was some entry level game (fuck you bgg for fooling me)
>"I want to do this action"
>"You can't"
>"Why not?"
>"Because only 1 player can do that action per round"
>"This game sucks"

And now my girlfriend won't play anything I suggest except Cleudo and Monopoly.

>>54146362
>>54146368
Thanks anon's, that's the convincing I needed. I just checked the KD:M page and realised its $750 USD for the game + ALL expansions...
Any idea when it will next go on sale? Rumour going around is Black friday

>>54145511
Sell it to me I'll pay you a dollar

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>>54134862
KD:M I'm sure is good but I can't justify it at the price of 10+ regular games. Will just play on TTS. Gloomhaven is on the way. I'm excited but I have other stuff to play right now. First up on my list of upcoming games is Xia: Embers of a Forsaken Star which ships this month. I like Xia but it was always really rough. Expansion seems made to fix the fuck outta it and just give it generally more.

>Best worker/dice placement game
>Best area control game
>Best party game
>Best co-op game
>Best fighting/war/skirmish game

>>54144539
It will only get worse wont it?

>>54110778
He is literal cuck with shit taste and a shill.

>>54148028
Admitedly he is a retarded liberal so that does throw more weight behind it but where did the "cuck" bit come from?

>>54148063
haven't you heard? It's the cool new insult for insecure shut-ins to throw around at anyone they don't like.

>He's right about the shit taste / being a shill though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9otDixAtFw

Any game that uses physics as a theme?

>>54144763
Would Boss Monster be more interesting as a game where you build your own decks of spells and rooms from the shitload of available cards as opposed to everyone drawing from the same pile?

>>54146429
I'm sorry for your plebby girlfriend

>>54147588
sent ;)

>>54148341
You should find a dictionary and check what "literal" means.

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>>54146429
If your gf is into orgasm denial explain to her the entire game is about invoking that feeling

>>54148261
You could go and change anything about BM to make it a better game but at some point you'd realise that you could have put the time and effort into finding a decent game in the first place.

>Playing Suburbia in TTS versus two other people
>Screw myself over
>Think I'm going to lose
>Actually fulfill the two victory point conditions I was gunning for at the end and win the game @ 115 points
Wow, I'm surprised I actually won.

>>54128047
They look good but are screaming for a wash to be put over them to give it more depth

>>54110778
I never bother with his final thoughts, but his run throughs are the best at showing how a game actually plays. Not how to play the game (Rodney Smith is king here), but how the game play flows and what types of decisions a player has to make.

>>54148899
What about stupid mistakes, leftist whining, pretending to be his wife, obvious shilling, bad taste?

>>54149553
>stupid mistakes,
That's what the Klingon subtitles is for

>leftist whining,
Most of that is relegated to final throughts, which I don't bother with

>pretending to be his wife,
Necessary evil in order to some a proper playthough, while still talking through decisions.

>obvious shilling,
Again, I don't bother with final thoughts.

>bad taste?
Again, I don't bother with final thoughts.

>>54150229
> he's a great reviewer as long as you ignore the actual review parts
I can read the rulebook myself, I don't need some dillweed to mumble its contents onto a camera.

>>54118920
I took Welcome to the Dungeon, Love Letter and Tiny Epic Kingdoms.

Tiny Epic Kingdoms was a big miss in my group (though I like it). Those three games all fit into the Tiny Epic Kingdoms box so I'd say it's a plus.

>>54128198
The alligator is nice too.

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>>54094772
So... Erotic Board Games? Do they exist? Are they any good? Should I make one?

>>54110778
I used to watch him to see how some of the community favorite heavier games are played (for example Mage Knight, Great Zimbabwe, Trajan). Now he only films KS trash unless it's a backer-requested video. If I really need to see how a game works now, I read the rules PDF

>>54151897
Almost certainly, probably not, and no.

>>54151897
It's almost always a bad idea. The sole exception are mixed company strip games, and the kinds of situations where that'll work out AND where the game is a necessary element are basically nonexistent.

>>54151992
I never understood why people don't prefer reading the rules

>>54150460
Where the fuck did I say he was a good reviewer? All I said was that his run throughs are useful for getting a feel for what its like to play the game.

Sorry you have such a hate boner for the dude that you can't stand to have someone utter anything remotely positive about his channel.

>>54152368
There are different types of learners
Stuff clicks better for some people when the hear it or watch it than when they read it.

I've never had much opportunity to play/get into board games (other than the classic ones like Clue and Monopoly) due to being in Hueland, but I've recently purchased Tabletop Simulator and have been having lots of fun with some friends.

That being said, I'd like to ask if you guys could please recommend me good cooperative games that we can try to play (or any games in general, thou I'm more interested in co-op).

I'd guess most people heavily into board games wouldn't like fan-made stuff based on a videogame property, but one game we've tried recently that we really enjoyed was Castlevania Nocturne of the Tabletop.

>>54152368
Mainly because blankly reading the rules doesn't give the best idea of exactly how everything works and fits together.

>>54152368
Visual learning is the most powerful one for humans, followed by aural learning. Videos offer both.

>>54152461
>There are different types of learners
This is a myth. There are no different learner types.
http://www.learningscientists.org/blog/2017/5/25-1

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>>54152034
This, they're either cheesy strip games, "do this to your partner" spice your sex life up games, or shit rethemes of party games like Busen Memo or pic related

>>54151897
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/217270/kamasutra

>>54152481
>co-op
Go Pandemic. It's a safe bet.
Depending on the number of players, you can also get one of the FFG Lovecraft-themed games: Arkham Horror, Eldritch Horror, or Arkham Horror LLG (no board though).

>>54152599
Technically Carr didn't say there aren't multiple ways to learn, just that the older theory is vague/inaccurate and poorly designed for study. She's definitely right on that, and her recommendations for sensory based learning and improving verbal to improve learning as a whole are dead on.

the survey results have been interesting so far!

we are currently at 53 responses out of the 76 users on here
>one girl so far lol
>More people have not gone to a con than those who have gone (21-32)
>Relationships almost even with 15 married, 19 bf/gf, and 19 single
>31 people are age 25 to 34 with another 16 between 18 and 24

I wonder if there were any good questions I should have added? maybe something related to the number of games you have, how often you game, or how long you've been in thee hobby. perhaps I'll make a second survey sometime... let me know if you got any suggestions!

Anyways, let me just say thank u again for satisfying my curiosity. I would like to see as many people as possible though, so I will post the survey again in the next thread for anybody who may have missed it!

here is the link for those 23 other people who may be interested :)
https://www.survey
monkey.com/r/8JQZQQX

Thoughts on Star Trek Ascendancy?

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is it worth it?

>>54155218
-For a 4x, it's VERY easy to teach. Rules are simple and elegant
-Each turn can let you do a lot of stuff - though less than you'll want to do each turn. This means the disparity in time taken between players who have their turns planned out and those who don't when initiative gets to them is HUGE. Three players who already know what they're going to do can get done in less than five minutes. Three who don't will take half an hour. This means the game can move very quickly, but probably won't for the first few turns - exacerbated by exploration being the slowest element in the game, drawing and resolving new systems and exploration cards is more time consuming than anything but very large battles.
-The aforementioned random system and card draws for exploration can be very swingy. Odds are good that one player might make out much better than the others in critical resorces, or lose far fewer ships to hazards and mishaps.

Overall, it's not bad, but maybe just a little too random, and it's streamlined empire-scale view diminishes the Trek flavor a bit.

Overall, I think I like Fleet Captains a little better, despite it being quite a bit clunkier.

>>54155522
What first attracted me to it is how is a simple(er) 4X game. My collection does not contain any 4X games, so I'd like to ease my friends into the type of game. Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to get them all the way to twilight imperium. And hopefully being an easy to teach/learn means the group can quickly become the type of player who knows what to do. Thanks for the help!

>>54154573
>I wonder if there were any good questions I should have added?
Caverna or Agricola?

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>>54155316
This is the only version of Monopoly that's worth playing. Not even meming. Unlike normal Monopoly, this version is actually fun.

>>54095183
>19
>several
>male
>single

I own a few games (Catan, 7 Wonders, Axis & Allies, Bohnanza, Bang!, Elder Sign...), but I've played several games, including Twilight Struggle and Agricola. I'd love to buy more stuff but between my many hobbies (from playing jazz and cooking to LEGO and vidya) and my general lack of money from studying in the US given I'm not a native...

Yeah, doesn't really work out. Thinking of buying one of those generic sets that can be used for like 50 different games. those are nifty.

>>54148063
It's the new version of "beta" really.

>>54148224
Manhattan Project, heh

>>54155727
I believe you meant...
Ameritrash / Euro-game
Miniatures / No Miniatures!
Rahdo / No Rahdo
Kickstarter is: Awesome / The Devil!
Do you Jaipur?

>>54152368
Mostly because I want to see "how a turn plays" (interesting decisions to take, player interactions) instead of actually understanding the rules.
Then again, a lot of reviewers just explain the rules, which is mostly a waste of time. The worst offender is probably when they go every over every single card instead of showing a few representative ones.

>>54155316
No, monopoly is shit. And most videogame skinned themes are shit. Worst of both worlds.
Although that version at least has coins isntead of paper money I guess.
But seriously spend your money on any of the thousand actually enjoyable board games that exist instead.

>>54156322
>Do you Jaipur?
You shouldn't ask a question which you know what everyone will answer, silly

>>54138474
Its complexity comes from strategy rather than mechanics. You're really just playing cards and rolling dice. It's deciding when to play those cards that makes it complex. You're either playing cards for their numerical value (operation points) or for their event which is explained on the card. I'm sure you'd pick it up just fine.

>>54154573
Do you paint? Y/N
If you do, do you thin your paints? Y/N

What kind of sleeves do you guys use? I usually use UltraPro clear sleeves for my Magic cards, but I'm wanting to sleeve all of my Smash Up cards and I want something clear that doesn't have that UltraPro watermark on it

>>54158577
I think the same but I don't wanna scare him so never will dare to touch a board game in his life.

>>54160050
Have you looked at 13 Days: The Cuban Missile Crisis as a potential gateway to TS? Otherwise, take the dive. It's a very very tight game.

>>54159929
I don't use sleeves.
But then again, I hate TCGs/CCGs.

>>54159818
The only excuse I've found yet for not thinning paints when doing hobby work is when you're working on a surface where water will strip the previous layers. Considering how rare that is you should pretty much assume you need to thin your paints.

>>54160674
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/THIN_YOUR_PAINTS

>>54160698
I love that page, makes me feel so much better about my shitty miniature painting skills. I was thinking about terrain/battle mats though, even a small amount of water can peel multiple layers of paint off your mat so unless you're wet blending you don't want to thin too much there, lest you end up with a warped surface and no color.

>>54154573

You should gather our bgg collection links and see what games are most owned/liked, then do a list of our recommendations from that

>>54160698

Thin Your Paints usually refers to the old citadel paint tubs that people would just use straight without any mixing or thinning. Personally I always used Reaper paints since they're easier to mix with dropping the amounts you want.. and I rarely thinned them since they're already fairly thin.

>>54160268
t-thanks for the input, anon

>>54160929
Ultrapro really is the best quality to cost ratio in my opinion. You could try dragon shields.

>>54159929
I use Swan or PanAsia thick sleeves, they're pretty nice and feel pretty good for board game cards. No idea what Murricans have for options.

>>54156278
Makes sense, 'cuck' is what happens after 'beta' finally get a GF.

>>54158049
>You shouldn't ask a question which you know what everyone will answer, silly

Surprisingly, 7.2% of /bgg/ respondents answered "Potato" to that question oddly enough...

>>54159929
There are a couple of useful links in the pastebin on this:

Card Sleeve References

https://boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/Card_Sleeve_Reference

https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/102880/item/2042318#item2042318

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>there will never be an AHLCG organised play event in your country

>>54160115
Seconding 13 days, it's a really great way to ease people into CDGs in general

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Had my first game of Pericles, easing into it with the tutorial scenarios, ending with a one-turn scenario

This game seems really solid, but I don't think it'll truly shine before we play one of the longer scenarios, there isn't a lot of city-state infighting when you only play over one turn. My compatriot, the Aristocrats, got shafted by a truly terrible hand, and so had only one issue and a bunch of Strategos tokens. So her only real choice was whether to have us both lose, or to have me win.

The Spartans were a lot closer in honour, and the two city-states were also very close. I feel like if the game had just been one or two turns longer, it would have been a lot more interesting. Can't wait to play more, it was both tense and exciting; the movement rules are very finnicky, but once you grasp them campaigns can become simple but sweeping affairs

>>54163021
Good, AHLCG is overrated coop trash.

>>54164183
>I'm a friendless cunt who hates my pathetic life so no one else should enjoy anything either.

>>54164958
Coop - literally worst mechanics, and you know it.

>>54165017
That's racist against coops, I'm sure some of them can fix a car better than most.

>>54165017
> "REEEEEEEE".jpg
> I'm butt-hurt and I know it! And I'm not afraid to show it! <claps hands>

Nice job.

>>54165017
FFA is objectively the worst

Coop can be good to very good with hidden information
Team vs Team / 1vs1 is where it's at

>>54165129
Team vs team is pure trash.
Also
>organised play event
>for coop game
What will be the point? Pussies will show how can they defeat a deck?

>>54165017

Co-op aims to hit certain demographics of players, which is probably not you, and that's okay.

My wife will play some competitive games, like Battlecon, but always has a great time with co-ops. She particularly likes AHLCG too. I enjoy the heavy narrative aspects and the fact that some mechanics in that game activeley deter alpha gamer syndrome, like Peril. She enjoys the fact that she can build a unique deck and feel like a character. It really fulfills a few niches we both enjoy, even if I prefer competitive games myself. Most of those I save for my weekly game night group meetups, which tends to be more cut-throat.

I would also add that AHLCG might be one of the best co-op experiences around at the moment, and I own Eldritch Horror, Legends of Andor, Pandemic, and Sentinels of the Multiverse, all of which pale in comparison IMO.

>>54165213
Bridge, football, baseball, soccer etc is trash.

>>54164958
Cooperative games are almost invariably terrible, though. They inevitably devolve into either one alpha geek telling Everton what to do, or a squabbling consensus that's less effective than just having that one alpha geek. Either way, a large chunk of the group may as well not be playing, because they're stuck on robot mode based on group consensus.

The only good one I've ever played is Hanabi, and that's because it forces you to communicate in extremely limited ways.

>>54165289
Yes, you finally got it.
>>54165235
>Co-op aims to hit certain demographics of players
Yep, mostly retards, who simply cannot into decisions at all.

>>54165373
>They inevitably devolve into either one alpha geek telling Everton what to do, or a squabbling consensus that's less effective than just having that one alpha geek. Either way, a large chunk of the group may as well not be playing, because they're stuck on robot mode based on group consensus.
I'm pretty sure that two players is the optimum for coops.

>>54163901
This is already out? Have you played Churchill. How does it compare if so.

>>54159929
Only sleeved a few games that would either be a pain to replace or will get handled loads. FFG and Mayday Premium/Magnum/whatever it's named this month for the odd card size. Lots of people hate the not perfect sleeve fit but I actually prefer that flap for whatever reason.

Also new thread, still the old pastebin because I'm too lazy to update it today but group chart v2 (the one that looks less like shit) is coming for the rest of you to shit on and help refine.

>>54166290
>>54166290