https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Lovedagger "Lovedagger"

"Lovedagger" is stupid, and it should have been named "Lovepillow" or something similar.

>>54071569
The dagger was for the melodramatic "killed herself for love" angle of the story. It's in context less as a weapon and more as an instrument.

>>54071569
Too on the nose

>>54071616
Yeah, it had a really "fat angsty teenaged girl" sort of vibe. Cutting is like the noblest and most romantic action they can imagine, the powerful and beautiful empress killing herself with a dagger is the sort of thing that makes them flood their panties like a Warhammer fanboy imagining viking Jesus smashing orcs.

>>54071499
Kharadons would probably be those rich Southern gentlemen.

>>54071499
>>54071876
The Victorian shtick is begging for abuse, especially if you consider how Lovedagger treated dwarfs.

>>54071499
... I dare ask, what is Nurgle like?

>>54072254
According to the wiki:

>[Nurgle]s, (aside from his diseases becoming less disfiguring and more of a Victorian "cough blood, be pale") aspect as the Lord of Entropy turns him, in the Lovedagger setting, into the Lord of Despair. As the ruler of emotional stagnation, he governs those dark romances whose passion has died out, and both parties know it, but neither has the courage to kill so they all linger in unhappiness. His elemental theme is ice.

>>54072254
Because of the heightened focus on relationships and intrigue the Chaos Gods are now defined primarily via their emotional associations. They still have all of their old ones, but Tzeentch is now less about Change in general and more about Treachery. Khorne is the Lord of Fury, Nurgle is the Lord of Despair, and Slaanesh is the Lord of Desire. Malal IIRC is about emptiness and has no emotional connection.

>>54072368
That's... not as horrible as I'd expected. It's not good, but it's not AS horrible.

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>>54071499
>this setting is miles ahead of AoS
Fuck that's sad.

>>54071499
This is actually really good. I might try run a DH game in this universe for some Bronte and Austen loving friends.

>>54074366

Same. This is the first time that Warhammer Fantasy appealed to me as a setting. With just a few minor changes (you can leave sigmar as is), it's really mostly a change in emphasis.

Bravo to the anons who wrote it. I'm sad that fantasy had to die now that I see what it could have been.

>>54077222

OK, some critiques...

I don't think we need the lady sigmar. Why not just expand the story of sigmar himself to include a beautiful and regal Queen who won over her barbaric husband's wild heart and tamed him with love? Why not make her the law-giver and architect behind the scenes?

This lets us keep the maiden/lady/crone trinity, which I like.

Dwarf chicks: I don't like the "delicate little elf waifs" thing. Girls into that kind of thing already have factions. Instead, keep the dwarves as they are changed in the wiki article. Then make the women short, curvy, outgoing, and very strong personalities. Dwarves are then like the traditional American South: men strut around and shout orders, and do all the fighting, but it's really a matriarchy with the women calling the shots while the men meekly say "yes, ma'am". (The "strong oppressive gender roles which characters can defy" is already a brettonian thing.)

I'd like to see more of this. Ladyhammer 40k isn't really interesting to me, but the fantasy setting could actually be an upgrade for traditional Warhammer Fantasy.

You could even still have the original game living side by side with the chickified version. There's a big change in aesthetics, sure, but for the original game this is mostly just empty fluff because people mostly care about battlefields anyway. Same setting, but big enough to encompass many styles of play and many takes on the same events.

>>54077399
So literally just Fantasy but focused on noblewomen.

>>54077399
>Ladyhammer 40k isn't really interesting to me

Well I mean, its designed to be interesting to women, not you, so

>>54072368
>Khorne is the Lord of Fury,
PLEASE tell me there's some menstruation jokes in there somewhere.

>>54077703
I mean, blood for the blood god, am I right?

>>54077703
Just the popping of hymens.
Sadly many women are left scorned and furious by their men being seduced by elves but thankfully those strong and down to earth beastmen are always handy.
Except for the ungors, fuck those guys.

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I love me threads with pathetic incels.

>>54081000
>Sadly many women are left scorned and furious by their men being seduced by elves but thankfully those strong and down to earth beastmen are always handy.

What gender are the seducing elves? This is vitally important?

>>54081546

Men in this setting ought to be divided into two categories: Romance novel cover models and yaoi twinks, in roughly equal proportion.

>>54077399
You should definitely kill yourself

>>54081642
I wholeheartedly agree

>>54081546
It doesn't matter, they're elves.
If they were manly enough they'd go for the women.

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>>54081642
How much yaoi twink?

>>54071569
It's a play on words, you dolt. Do you really not see the 1:1 correspondence to "war" and "hammer"? If you drop either aspect, might as well drop all of it.

>>54077399
I agree with you on Sigmar's situation, though I wonder about the "cosmic significance" of each, you know what I mean? Like, the idea that in the end, it was the Maiden Empress who mattered more in the divine scheme of things (maybe to the point of eventually ascending as the avatar of Azyr, with a focus on the beauty and purity of the starry heavens rather than the wrath of lightning).

I like what Lovedagger did with dwarfs. It feels thematically perfect to me, especially since it makes their view of women a symbolic extension of their view of everything: that of tragic artists who try to compensate for the ugliness they find in themselves by sanctifying beauty, ironically becoming uglier in the process. They would kill butterflies to preserve their colors forever, then mourn that they've killed them.

But I also agree this makes them too thematically similar to the Bretonnians. My suggestions? Kharadron Overlords. Their deal is social deviance (in Lovedagger, it would be said that they've "traded beauty for cold, hard cash", though they themselves would claim they've simply embraced a superior form of beauty, the gentler and nobler aesthetic of the perfect equation and the flawless mechanism). Part of their defiance would be de-deifying their women. Their aesthetic is already Victorian, make it that there was a Kharadron suffrage movement. Now their ladies can be aethership captains, mechanics, traders... or prostitutes with the freedom to starve.

>>54073986
DON'T YOU DARE
FUCK YOU

>>54081546
>What gender are the seducing elves
ELF

>>54071499
>How do you think the setting would handle the changes of Age of Sigmar/whatever the equivalent figure is called?

I only have vague recollection but didn't Horus love the Emperess or something?

Maybe he returns, determined to take her by force

>>54083173
I think you're mixing your Warhammer settings here. Age of Sigmar is part of the fantasy line, Horus is 40K.

>>54083150
That does beg the question: we know how Lovedagger does dwarfs. How does it do elves? You'd think this setting would be all over them, so even if the answer is "not a single thing changes", it should get some attention, no?

>>54082056
Well, "love" and "war" are opposit themes whereas "hammer" and "dagger" aren't, I guess.

>>54083216
Oh, I was mixing up Lovedagger and Lovedagger 40k, sorry

>>54081642
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Lovedagger
There must be a third category as well. Oppressive boyfriends and fathers (maybe older brothers?) that seek to deprive you of freedom and decide your role in life for you.

>>54082051
That's too Twinki.
Yaoi Twink in this setting means a somewhat meek, non-alpha male that just wants to make people happy. He's more sensitive than effeminate, the effeminate qualities are secondary to the sensitivity, and in fact may manifest entirely to keep his partner happy. Remember that the focus is romance and angst, not fucking you can get away with.

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>>54077399
I agree with >>54083074 on dwarf ladies, but I like the concept of a race of shouty matriarchs cowing their husbands around. Obvious answer: instead of retarded giant frogs with indigestion, Lovedagger trolls are pic related.

>>54083980
You could just make that the halflings. Is surprisingly fitting given that they already worship a goddess and all. Women rule the kitchen, so they rule the household. Men exist to forage, farm and otherwise provide ingredients for the matron to make food.

>>54084030
Far from being nonmagical, halflings of Lovedagger practice too contradictory and complimentary forms of it. Pillars of the community are the matriarchs knowns as the Hearthpriestesses, who combine divine favor and rustic herb knowledge to produce various benign effects. Like dwarfs, their innate magic resistance interferes with outright spellcasting, so they've found a way to contain the magic: not in cold, hard runes but in lovingly made, magical dishes. They manufacture sponge cakes so light they can make you fly, pumpkin soup that can remove diseases, bread whose crumbs can be laid in a circle around the house for protection from evil, wine that makes you fall in love and stew that turns you into an animal.

Their dark side are basically little fairytale witches. They too cook and brew magical soups, pastries and beverages, but instead of love and the finest ingredients they use disgusting, horrible ones (insects, poison mushrooms, children's eyeballs, the heart of a virgin, etc.) to make curses and malignant magic. Such power corrupts them until eventually they look all warty and wrinkly and must use special potions to maintain an illusory youth.

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>>54084135
>you will never have a qt halfling witch waifu who makes your magical food that gives you the superhuman strength and endurance to take care of your farm and make sweet love to her

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>54083139
im guessing this is a feelsbad doujin>? or the aos being the feelsbad

>>54072310
>Nurgle's, aspect as the Lord of Entropy turns him, in the Lovedagger setting, into the Lord of Despair. As the ruler of emotional stagnation, he governs those dark romances whose passion has died out, and both parties know it, but neither has the courage to kill so they all linger in unhappiness.

But Nurgle already is Lord of Despair, isn't he?

>>54086542
That's not actually happening, the woman is hallucinating as she's dying. From rape I think.
AoS is still more depressing.

>>54083980
What are these?

>>54086573
Yeah, but in Lovedagger that's his focus instead of Pestilence.

>>54083249
Well it's still about conflict, just about noble backstabbing. Women and hidden knives are super popular in real life

>>54086587
Fensir. I think they're from Manual of the Planes for D&D.

>>54086582
Source?

>>54073986
Is... is that Emergence? By ShindoL?

So... 50% of comments are speaking of a porn image rather than the setting? Classic blunder.

>>54092815
I think you might need to rework your maths.

>>54092815
More like 10% mate.
And it's only classic blunder if they're discussing the op pic anyway, not a pic someone else posted.

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>>54071499
>"Lovedagger" was a satirical madeup setting based on the premise of Warhammer being created to appeal to girls the same way it was made in reality to appeal to boys.

... why did we need a satirical one when Blue Rose already exists?

>>54071748
That just makes it truer to the source material.

>>54071787
Also it is a dick.

AGE OF SIGVALD

>>54091295
The post right below you. She's going into shock from a miscarriage while ODing on heroin.
>>54091321
Yes.

>>54071499
Stormcast Eternals don't wear anatomically correct armour, they just walk around shirtless

Khorne Bloodbound cut their wrists to appease the Blood God

Flesh Eater Courts are Vegetarian Courts. They're noble knights who think they're ghouls

Seraphon stay completely the same because that's the only army that the girls actually play

Tzaangors are tragic and misunderstood furries

Kharadron Overlords are adventurous pirates and swashbucklers

Beastclaw Riders ride white tigers, lions and antelopes