Has the secret of incredible advancement of Tau technology finally

>>54031912
Is this the first time that you've seen a comic panel where technology was obviously traced from a 40k model?

>>54031912
Pls.
No Ririposting.

>>54031912
WTF, the perspectives in this picture are all seriously off. Is whoever drew this a cyclops, completely lacking in depth perception?

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>>54031912
There are more than a few hack artists working in comics.

>>54032022
I really don't see the resemblance.

>>54032017
It looks like they fisheyed a camera in the 3D program, pasted in a bunch of random shit, and then drew the characters in.

The shitty flame on that candle is also bothering me more than it ought to. Motherfucker can draw individual teeth but he can't draw a proper fucking candle.

>>54032069
Look at the centre part of the hull then the landspeeder's cockpit.

>>54032069
look at the glowing orange studs

>>54032069
The top of the flying base is a lego snowspeeder

>>54031912
Can't-remember-his-first-name Land was infamous for his Ultimate X Man run where he traced porn stars and models.

And there's those few pages from a venom comic that had the blatant Hammerhead traces

>>54032069

Look at the model, remove the cockpit canopy, then look at the centre of the ship's dish.

>Riri aka Oppress me or else I won't be able to have a goal in life Williams
Worst comic character ever

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>>54032069
The top of the floating castle is a paste of a 3D lego snowspeeder model. He's taken off the cockpit and some of the extra pieces along the guns, but it's definitely the same model, just stuck on top of another thing he probably got in a random 3D model pack.

You can see where the guns are clipping through whatever he stuck it on.

>>54032126
Why the fuck did they do this?

>>54031912
So Tau technology is powered by chimps?

>>54032146
Because the artist is a lazy hack

>>54032146
It's cheap and fast to block out stuff in a 3D program, take a screenshot, and then trace over it in an editing program.

Pretty much everything in the OP image is just a 3D model with a filter on it, sans the characters themselves and the stuff outside the door. Pretty sure the secondary girl has actually been drawn around her phone with how uniform the buttons look.

>>54031912
It's simple actually.
They enjoyed thousands of years of peace, thanks to the warp storms that encircled them, and also disturbed time, meaning when only a few thousand years went by in the galaxy, the Tau were at peace and alone to prosper for more than 10k year if I remember correctly.
Imagine if the Imperium was completely at peace for that amount of time. No chaos, no xeno, nothing.

>>54032170
>So lazy he couldnt just rule of cool up a flying fortress.
how do these people get these jobs.

>>54032185
They're minorities who draw minorities and have the back up of minorities

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>>54032185
It's a mystery, anon.

>>54032100
It also had an Eldar Falcon and Necron Warriors.

It was really blatant that he stole files from DoW and put them in the comic.

If you people had any idea how much job in how little time Marvel and the other big american comics companies require from their artists, you would understand that copying is almost needed most of the time. If they had to do everything completely out of their own fantasy they would never be able to keep up in first place. Marvel and DC don not care that their artists produce actual art, they just want them to work fast: either you adjust or you lose your job.

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U mad Warhammer boi?

>>54032214
What's going on with, I assume, Tony in that picture?

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What the fuck happened to comics? I read Final Crisis (pic related) no less than ten years ago and the war was amazing. That was the last comic I read, did things got worse with time?

>>54032205
>They're artists who draw minorities and have the back up of minorities
srsly anon, I know the /pol/ koolaid tastes good, but let's be serious for a second here. They make money based on how many drawings they can pump out. If there's a faster and effortless way to pump them out without anybody being the wiser, you bet they'll do it. And /co/mics are not the epitome of quality when you look at the big picture.

>>54032287
those tiny (not-rescaled) drones get me every time.

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>>54032333
Jews happened. Jews happen to everything.
Everything you love will be bought by Jews and ruined. It's inevitable.

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>>54032298
Tony's realized he's in a Greg Land book.

>>54031912
WE WUZ KRISIZ SUITZ N SHEEIT

>>54032214
>>54032422
This can't be real....

>>54032022
Sunspot is also traced over a Brazilian politician

>>54032373
You mean like Stan Lee and Jack Kirby?

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>>54032534
>He doesn't know about the Big Two and their 'artists'.

>>54032657
Precisely.

>>54032754
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>>54032754
>he posts the thumbnail

>>54032022
The complete lack of either skill, dedication, or simply time that is evident from American comics continues to amaze and horrify me.

It's a visual medium. I really don't understand how anyone could be OK with this level of incompetence as a rule. And it's not like there aren't any American comics with decent art. There are. They're just completely lost under the blanket of mass produced crap, and generally only count as hipster niche products.

But the disgusting porn I fap to has more artistic fidelity than the average American comic.

>>54032779
Most of these are pretty egregious but some of them are just the artist using references.

>>54032333
Not been funny man but neither Greg Land nor Mike Deodato are new to the industry. You can still go find art by Rocafort, Christian Ward, etc running now as well - it's not something that happened to comics recently, it's just that artists cut corners to save time and make money. Shit look at Bob Kane.

The comics industry is also niche as hell (and subject to massive piracy) so people really don't earn money in it. You'd have to be an absolute premium artist - the kind that don't really exist anymore, but Todd Macfarlane/Liefeld era (Deodato kind of rode in with those guys in terms of his big runs, like his WW run) - to make a lot of money on a slow book. And those artists exist, there are some who'll do it and get contract for it, but everyone is encouraged to rush to make a living now. And sometimes even good art is ruined by the colouring choices, or vice versa, because a comic book is actually 4 or 5 people scrabbling to make everything fit in time for printing.

Great new artist on DC/Marvel properties for me would be Bilquis Evely. Her art is very very good and she seems capable of hitting the monthly schedule.

>>54032834
There are definitely big American comics (meaning Marvel, DC, Image) being published with good art. Shit often Image is just a good artist being thrown around with a mediocre script.

>>54032779
>millennials shocked to find comic artists trace porn "these days"

Comic artists have been tracing porn for decades. It's just that prior to the existence of the Internet, unless you owned a copy of the specific porn magazine that it was traced from, you wouldn't know for sure, and even if you did, you wouldn't be able to easily share the knowledge with others.

Back in the early 90s, Wizard magazine did an article on the prevalence of tracing in comics. A lot of Marvel art was traced from Image Comics.

>>54032834
I think it's mostly just the Big Two (Marvel and DC) who churn shit out like this. They've got a core of very rabid fans who will buy anything they set out to keep up with the story.

Other IPs and publishers actually have to hold onto their readers so they can't get away with this tripe.

>>54032983
Image definitely puts out those blatant 3D Poser comics on occasion.

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>>54032069

>>54032100
Greg Land.

>>54032146
>Why the fuck did they do this?
There is one, and only one, rule for making art for a syndication comic product:

It must. Be done. On time.

That's it. That's the entire thing. After the writers, editors, and everyone else gets time to mess around with an issue, there's very little left of the weekly/monthly period to churn out the actual pictures. So the chief requirement for the artists is simply to be able to work to schedule, week in week out. So basically all of them use shitty practices, simply because it's faster.

>>54031912
No but there's ton of hints of the Imperials losing a bunch of ships to the sector (One in the HH and the other fleet that was sent in to observe the species in the original fluff) so its not that wild of a guess that the Tau simply found the remains of these ships in their planet and learned from them, eventually reverse engineered them to aid in their technological progress while they were caught in the warp storm.

>>54032333
Nigga, there were terrible series out during that time too. Current DC is on point.

>>54032779
He says "Big 2" but that's 90% Marvel.

>>54032633
Could be worse. Like the time Magneto was drawn over the king of Spain and the Spanish royal family threw a shitfit.

>>54032892
Once upon a time, Greg Land used to know how to draw and he was a solid house artist. He started getting lazy right around the time he was the lead artist on BoP.

Same goes for a lot of the lazier artists these days, like you said. Salvador Larocca is another bad offender who used to actually draw back in the day.

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>>54032287
They didn't even remove the logos for fucks sake.
Were is GW with their sue happy selves?

>>54034612
Disney

>>54034655
Damn if forgot about that damn giant. Although in a fair world it wouldn't matter because this is so blatant it's not even funny.

>>54031912
WE WUZ TAU N SHIET

>>54031912
Sorry, where's the trace here?

>>54032339
Maybe they'd be able to hire artists who can put in the effort if they weren't going for a quota.

>>54032333
>Final Crisis
SHIT
TASTE

>>54035758
Tau battlesuit jetpack.

>>54034718
god i love the goon.

>>54032422
Okay, but why is his metal suit acting like flesh

>>54031984
>Is this the first time that you've seen a comic panel where technology was obviously traced from a 40k model?
Just came here from the board where one normally discusses comics, and yes because I don't play 40k.

I do have considerable experience with DAZ models though and enjoy finding examples where artists trace them.

>>54032834
American comics are produced like TV shows and movies. Media created by suits.

You won't see that kind of shit as often in European and Japanese comics, because those comics are typically planned out by the creators themselves.

>>54031912
Please don't tell me marvel is stealing tau AGAIN.
In case you don't know, when venom went to space some background aliens were tau fire warriors with a hammerhead.
This is actually getting pretty regular.

>>54031984
In the music video for Disturbed's Land of Confusion there's a Sabre tank Hunter.

>>54034462
>Like the time Magneto was drawn over the king of Spain and the Spanish royal family threw a shitfit.

Tracing the royal portrait and headswapping wasn't the problem. It was the artist's idiot decision to reproduce all the medallions and ribbons on the King's suit -- one of which not only denotes "King of Spain," but by wearing it technically MAKES you the King of Spain (the way crowns used to). Juan Carlos removed it from his suit and pinned it on his son Felipe when he abdicated the throne a few years back. Also, you'd be surprised how much legal protection those kinds of things have in terms of reproduction and usage, and at this point Marvel can't afford to lose a foreign market.

>reading comics
>2017
I guess it's really just the big 2. But comics have been pretty bad for more than a decade.

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Eh, Greg Land is a best case scenario nowadays.

NOTE: Picrelated is an actual panel from an actual recently published comic from actual Marvel

>>54032169
at least there's precedent in jokaero

>>54036207
It was like last year now and Hellcat was garbage all the way through.

>>54036207
Yeah but that's not finished right?

That's a mid-production panel right? Right?

>>54036300
Nope, it was sold like that. Art by Natasha Allegri of Adventure Time, I assume it was a rushed fill-in.

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>>54036220
Well yeah by "recent" I meant "mid-10s"

>>54036300
Ha. Ha. Ha.

>>54036207
Jesus Christ. That looks like something you'd see on a middle schooler's deviantart page

>>54036334
I'd love to show this to Alan Moore and see his reaction

>>54036477
Grant, stop trying to conceive complicated plans to kill the guy

>>54034462
Papa king or son kind? I want to see the pics.

>>54036120
>marvel can't afford to lose a foreign market
>marvel the makers of what is probably the most financially successful film franchise in history, can't afford to lose a third world country's citizens as potential buyers.

???

I don't want to get into franchise wars or anything, so don't take this as a slight against DC. But what are you smoking?

>>54036642
The way that marvel has been handling its comics for the last few years leads me to believe they don't give a flying fuck about losing potential buyers despite how little sense that makes

>>54036680
No, they're trying to go after the SJW market, reasonably thinking that it's growing, while the rational people market is shrinking. They want buyers, they just don't want you.

But nobody needs spain.

>>54036680
Marvel has far bigger problems than losing a non-market like Spain, they first have to gain a bigger foothold in the local market before caring about foreign customers.

>>54034718
>this comic will now be front page news and opinion pieces on bleedingcool and other shitrag web outlets for 2 months

Just helping add to the joke there Goon.

>>54036716
There might be long term potential in SJW (though I have no idea one way or the other), but I don't think the comic side Marvel actually has any growth to show for their efforts. I've only heard that they've lost sales

>>54036716
>No, they're trying to go after the SJW market
No they're not. They stopped doing that this year after the suits finally realized it was unprofitable.

>>54036745
>getting triggered by a comic page specifically designed to trigger /pol/tards
Really gets the melon swellin'.

>>54036716
>muh es jay double u boogeyman

stay retarded anon, don't ever change

>>54036804
Not an argument

>>54036827
>hurr fight me!

You ever feel bad not fighting that bum on the corner? No, me neither

>>54036856
>words are hurtful enough to be akin to physical fights

nice mentality you have there. But still not an argument.

>>54036784
>gets triggered by adding to the joke, doesn't like the direction it took
>YOU MUST BE A DROOLING SHEEPLE TRUMPTARD

Sasuga tumblr-chan. I funded the Kickstarter, bumblefuck.

>>54036642
Spain is first world dummy. They took the US's side during the cold war.

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>>54036804
Can you please stop this denial game? It gets annoying after a while.

Whatever word you prefer to call it, this trend exists, and is something Marvel comics tried to flirt with in recent years

>>54032185
They can work on a deadline. Shit out 22 pages a month consistently and the bosses don't care.

>>54036784
>a comic page specifically designed to trigger /pol/tards
>not to parody cheap SJW virtue signaling gimmick marketing tactics employed by Big 2

>>54036804
This is a real thing in some places. I am not /pol/ in the slightest, I'm left wing libertarian by my ideals, but >>54037072 is not an outlier, there are actual movements to encourage that kind of thing. SJW is a buzzword these days, but they still exist and still want to force you to decolonise your mind. Fucking google evergreen state college.

>>54035912
That's the Bleeding Edge armor, made of liquid metal nanotech stored inside of his body and able to be shaped into various forms.

>>54036804
I dont know what kind of bubble you live in but theyre a real thing anon, unless you are one in which case take your identity politics and pseudo science and shove them up your dick.

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>>54032754
>>54032779

>>54036918
>all-caps greentext reply
>but I'm not upset I swear

I believe you. I don't actually believe him, guys.

>>54037119
It's actually making fun of both the Big Two and the /pol/tards who spend their free time scouring the Internet for things to be upset about.

>>54037072
>using "meninist" unironically

>>54036784
>>getting triggered by a comic page specifically designed to trigger /pol/tards
wrong.
>>54036745
it was written back when bush was still in charge anon.
The conservatives were actually an issue back then before the pendulum shifted

>>54037216
Does greentext denote anger now?

>>54037216
>It's actually making fun of both the Big Two and the /pol/tards who spend their free time scouring the Internet for things to be upset about.
Ok, that seems about right.

>>54037128
That panel is a deliberate mocking of Bill Willingham though. This is what I really struggle with. Do I think Marvel comics is in a really bad place right now? Yes, absolutely.

Do the majority of people bitching about that on 4chan have anything other than out-of-context panels when they argue that? No. Angela Queen of Hel was a bad comic, but that was put in it to make fun of a moment in the Fables comic.

It's just exhausting to try and argue this out honestly. Marvel definitely have pandered and hard to a particular kind of market, like the Boom! Studios market, that doesn't seem to exist for them in numbers. But that's overall only part of a decline caused by complete disregard for the customer base, SJW or not, and a real lack of talent or any kind of editorial control and vision whatsoever from the top down.

>>54037241
>they really don't get it
>they think it's really
imagine just not knowing your enemy so much that you think the parody of you was the enemy
it must be horrible

>>54037216
>/pol/ Boogeyman

Is this all you know how to post?

>>54037326
Oh come on, this thread is full of /pol/ garbage.

>>54032017
Comic books always look like that for some reason.

>>54037360
i was late to the thread, how do you determine it to be /pol/
what are your defined boundaries for "/pol/shit"
:^)

>>54037360
>/pol/ Boogeyman is all it knows how to post

oh no it's retarded

>>54037326
Any mention of marvel comics inevitably leads to people arguing about identify politics

>>54037326
>DON'T CALL THEM ALL ALT-RIGHT!
>DON'T CALL THEM ALL /pol/!!!

What the fuck do I need to call these retards?

>>54037360
*this board

>>54032022
Looks more like a Tau Ramora drone.

>>54037415
Call them daddy because they spank your dumb non-argument's ass raw everytime.

>>54037407
>>54037411
I'm not even the same anon you were replying to but we've got muh Jews and muh pendulum swing up in there. And the ole WE WUZ too.

>>54037072
I actually find the [Unsolicited opinion on Isreal???] relatively funny. Without any context the guy could look like some sort of trolling demon. In the right book, it may had work.

>>54037072
>Unironically disliking Valhalla

that's the real sin here

>>54037415
I don't like calling them alt-right because it feels like I'd be pretending frogposting is the same as going to a klan rally, though I don't think there's anything wrong with calling /pol/shit /pol/shit. At the same time I also don't think saying Marvel fucked up by catering too much to sjw's instead of their actual fanbase is a terribly radical statement

>>54037503
They definitely fucked up in a lot more ways than that, though. Like you can stop that tomorrow and Marvel will still be dogshit almost right down the line.

>>54037454
>I'm not even

Yes, you are.

>>54037454
>muh pendulum swing up
I actually posted that, since when is that /pol/?
not only do it doubt it given /pol/ would rather believe that liberals were always crazy but it also needs to admitt both sides are a bit nuts.
this is closer to being an alt-centrist you cockgobbler.
neck thy self

>>54037542
kek, well how can I argue against that? I'm not, anon, but you've not presented any kind of argument that we could ever mutually agree on right there.

As you so obviously do in so much of your life, please continue to believe what you find most satisfactory.

Someone post the times Marvel ripped off Gundam designs. Man that got /m/ pretty angry when it was posted there.

>>54037503
>Being over 12
>Reading comics

???

>>54037454
>not even.
i bet your aren't anon.
i bet you aren't
>WE WUZ
is a stupid meme, much like HE.
Engaging in a meme is not a sign of /pol/lishness.
and i don't see where my jews come in
>muh pendulum swing.
>/pol/ admitting that there was change and that "libtards" were not always crazy
are you like special anon?

>>54037485
She is just saying they let unsavoury people in, which is probably fair. After all, they select brave warriors who died in battle, not reasonable people you can have interesting discussions with.

>>54037628
I'm pretty sure kids under 12 just play on their iPads and don't read comic books

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>>54037274
Not everyone argues that "SJW is the reason Marvel sucks". Some do, but not everyone.

Still, virtue signaling SJW pandering is one of the factors contributing to it.

>Do the majority of people bitching about that on 4chan have anything other than out-of-context panels when they argue that?
I honestly don't understand this argument. It's 4chan, we can post max 1 pic to complement our post. I mean, I could post the whole Issue #3 of Mockingbird to illustrate the same point, but it would look like spam.

>>54037259
>Does greentext denote anger now?
There's quite a difference between

>actual greentext
and
>ALL-CAPS HYPERBOLE RAMPED UP TO ELEVEN

Generally, people use all-caps hyperbole ramped up to 11 when they can't construct an actual rebuttal.

>>54037326
When you trip over yourself rushing to defend /pol/, it lets us know you're a /pol/tard.

>>54034655
>>54034696
What about them?

>>54037807
What a fucking mess.

>I'm going to give up on my goals because of the gender of the person trying to stop me, and feminism!
>I'm going to accept your peaceful surrender by punching you with my hammer, and then in the next panel probably wonder why our society has a problem with police brutality.

I support equality and I'm offended.

>>54038326
It's hard to win a lawsuit against them because they have such deep pockets, so a tiny insignificant company like Games Workshop won't bother to try and sue them.

>>54038497
I'd say this is a pretty cut and dry case, but American copyright law is pretty much "whoever can throw money at the case for long enough until the other side goes bankrupt is declared the rightful owner of the assets".
It's genuinely saddening to see copyright-happy GW get cucked so hard by Mickey Mouse. I'm really trying to cut back on my disney product consumption these days because holy fuck disney is a megacorp straight out of shadowrun.

>>54037274
Wait, that bit is a reference to bigby talking about Israel?

>>54032333
>Final Crisis was 10 years ago
>I have been on 4chan for 10 years
No fucking way.

Also, Final Crisis was gay aids.

>>54038770
As far as I'm concerned, GW is the exact same kind of evil, they're just less financially successful.

>>54038449
You know why we have a woman thor? I mean in lore? well, she has cancer, and she wants to have a blast before dying, yep, talking about Mjionir only accepting the worthiest users. She doesn't even care about doing good half the time

>>54031912
I'm still amused that bendis named his OC Donut steel after slang for Retard.

>>54036207
>Putting Arcade in the role of the cishet male
Do these people not have gaydar?

>>54039276
Every company would do what disney is doing if they were in disney's place, that's why megacorporations shouldn't be allowed to form, they literally become more powerful than many countries. Just because a tiny country would create a cruel empire of its own, given the chance, doesn't mean it's morally justified for it to be occupied by some other evil empire.

>>54039230
12 years here.

>>54037705
Kids generally haven't read comics since the 90's.

>>54031912
>we wuz iron man n sheeit

>>54036642
>third world
Are you retarded?

>>54031912
It' iron man, not iron lady.

>>54039601
>Not Iron Maiden

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>>54035846
>>54039230
The story was shit and the ending made no sense and nullified the most important sacrifice, but the art of the main series was great.
The thing it did right was how it turned Darkseid into the very idea of evil he was meant to portray. His very presence sent Earth to a time/space sink and fucked everything up royally. He really became the God of Evil...
...Then they fucked it up by having a vampire Monitor as the true big bad...

>>54039281
That is pure steaming garbage right there.

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This isn't the kind of shitposting I expected when I read the OP. Which object is from the Tau in this?>>54031912

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>>54039759
The jet pack.

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>>54037625
There's also the (at this point well-known) time that one American artist literally ripped off Jojo, complete with terminology.

>>54039759

>He can't recognize any profile outline of GW's plastic models when broken up and rendered in 2D, at a glance.

Just hand in your codex and get out.

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>>54039855
>Codex
Hand me your Indexes on your way out too, pleb. Assuming you even bought all three of them.

>>54039931

T-th-the codexes will return, it was prophesied in the rulebook itself!

>>54039675
Iron Maiden? Excellent! *air guitars*

>>54031912
>naming your nifty new shitlib hero "REE REEEEEE"

>>54039337
Maybe he's a standin for Milo?

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I fucking hate riri so much

>>54039990
If she was a black female metal fan fighting under the name Iron Maiden, that could be actually cool
But of course we can't have fun when it comes to appeasing "progressive" demographics

>>54032022
Wow. For people who can't see it, focus solely on the center of the top.

>>54031912
Uhm.... ahahahahahahah

>>54040135
For those who can't understand ant, this little shit is basically salty as fuck because her teacher isn't oppresing her and is actually encouraging her to be a scientist, then she goes on a rant about white supremacy and how blacks have it hard and the teacher is ignoring her at that point.

>>54032126
>He's taken off the cockpit

More likely he just stole it from a few steps earlier, before it was attached.

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>>54040382
>>54040382
>not knowing about the superiority of ants

>>54039276
Nah, GW has to do that because of UK copyright law.

Meanwhile Disney outright changes the law so it can keep making money.

>>54039681
Grant Morrison completely missed the point on Darkseid. Darkseid is Tyranny, in all its forms, not Evil. He also shit the bed with the rest of the New Gods but can't be blamed for the sorry state they were in at the time of writing.

Just read Seven Soldiers, it's the same story only better.

>>54038326
Disney's legal division alone has the budget to launch a hostile takeover of GW.

>>54031912
What does the tau have to do with a couple ghetto goblins taking apart an engine?
>>54035854
OH SHI-

>>54040947
>a couple ghetto goblins
She's the smartest person in the Marvel Universe!!!!!1!!1! (no really, it's canon now)

>>54040780
I think as far as Grant Morrison is concerned, Tyranny and Evil are the same thing.

>>54041261
Smarter than Reed Richards, Professor X, Tony Star, Hank Pym, Bruce Banner, and Doctor Strange, and Dr. Doom put together?

>>54041317

Put together, yes. Her diversity is her strength.

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>>54039493
I hate to be one of those tossers who say that they miss the 90s, but I absolutely fucking miss the 90s

>>54039964
>>54039931
I mean, did you really think they'd leave it at indices? Especially when they can squeeze out more shekels by selling the codex too?

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>>54041333
this angers me greatly.

>>54041261
>>54041317
>>54041333
I don't like Moon Girl or Riri but you could at least know what you're talking about before talking out your ass

>>54041473
Doom wasn't even the smartest man on earth, he was just the one with the most ambition.

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>>54041261
>>54041317
Not RiRi, it's another recently created teen black girl OC.

Still yeah, Moon Girl is now canonically smarter than the likes of Reed Richards, Hank Pym, Tony Stark or Bruce Banner.

>>54037433
I've always thought Tau were based on legos, especially their battlesuits.

>>54037072
Oh sure, but its not a NEW trend. We went through this shit back in the 90's. Ted Turner, captain planet? The Sunday morning cartoon lineup that ran while people were at church?

>>54041700
Moon Girl isn't fucking recent.

>>54041880
diff anon.
the wiki says she came out in 2016
is this not correct or some shit

>>54042095
Her book is around issue 20 now. That's enough time for three big crossover events that will change the universe forever.

>>54041700
Wasn't Moon Boy the monkey that rode on a dinosaur? Why is "Moon Girl" a child genius?

>>54042225
Okay but that definitely makes her newer than most ips.
I mean most of the popular shit dates back to 50s don't they?

>>54041880
I've been reading comics since the mid-00s, you gotta forgive me. 2016 in 2017 is recent to me.

>>54042270
Devil Dinosaur gets involved in some ancient caveman magic and gets brought to the present, where he befriends a little black girl. Now there's a joke about monkeys and black people you could make here, but surprisingly for current Marvel they still went with it.

>>54032339
believe it or not, that's not actually /pol/aid, it's true.

for a bit Marvel has been hiring artists and writers based solely on their race, especially for the "diversity" comics. The "America" comic's writer was chosen specifically because she was some lgbtqpa "puerto rican" for example.

Riri is apparently based on Bendis's own black daughter. And there was that muslim guy on X-men gold, specifically because he was.

sometimes, the kool-aid is real.

>>54042547
Why would anyone call themselves "Riri"? That's like naming yourself "Tardo"

>>54042507
That doesn't explain why she's suddenly smarter than Reed fucking Richards

>>54042750
BECAUSE SHES BLACK AND THE AFRICAN IS THE EPITOME OF EVOLUTION, WHITE MEN SHOULD BOW DOWN TO THE SUPERIOR SPECIMEN!

>>54041700

Isn't Moon Girl the one who bitched about not being able to vote despite being "the smartest person in the world" (implying that intelligence=wisdom/emotional maturity, which no eight-year-old has)?

>>54042547
Also, the guy writing Black Panther (iirc) was chosen because he was black and hated that fact. He left Marvel for DC and refused to accept work until they offered a non-black book

>>54042775
>if only we let preteens and teens vote, they're obviously smarter than all those old conservative fogies, amirite

>>54042750
She was named smartest person on Earth, and Reed hasn't been on Earth since 2013.

>>54042802
Complaining about 8-year-olds (or however old she is) not being able to vote seems like a perfectly acceptable thing for an 8-year old to think

>>54042775
She may be smart, but she's really lacking in morals. Like she's a few steps away from going evil mad scientist on everyone and it wouldn't even be all that surprising. Actually it would be pretty damn interesting to read happen....but it's not gonna happen. And that's terrible.

>>54042825
Okay, fair enough. Still doesn't explain why she's suddenly smarter than Hank fucking Pym, Tony fucking Stark, Bruce fucking Banner, Amadeus fucking Cho, Peter fucking Parker, and T' fucking Challa.

>>54042833
>Complaining about 8-year-olds (or however old she is) not being able to vote seems like a perfectly acceptable thing for an 8-year old to think
Or for a liberal. Oh wait... it's pretty much the same thing

>>54042750

Whatever happened to Amadeus Cho? He was the last 'Smartest guy on earth'.

>>54042858

At this point I think 'Smartest guy on earth' is like the WWE champion belt. People pass it about and drop it to other guys all the time.

>>54042845
I'd love all these "inclusive representation" characters much more if they were allowed to have flaws and fuckups just like the rest. Not flaws like "she's cutely awkward in certain social situations", but like actual flaws. Like, Reed Richards or Tony Stark level flaws.

>>54042771
They wuz kangs, after all

>>54042858
Hank wasn't on Earth either, and Peter has never been one of the smartest. A genius, and definitely up there, for sure, but not top ten.
>>54042877
Cho's now the Hulk. And he's always been 7th smartest on Earth.

>>54042877
>Whatever happened to Amadeus Cho? He was the last 'Smartest guy on earth'.
Too male.

Serious answer: Turned into a Hulk. Yeah, really. The only guy who was the "hey, let's do something different this time and have an intelligence-based hero rather than a punch-stuff-in-face-based one" character, was turned, into a Hulk.

>>54042877
I think he became a Hulk or something, but I completely lost track. Really unless there's some unsolvable equations being traded back and forth between the various geniuses all the "smartest on earth" stuff is mostly just shit-talking

>>54042909
You're Cho too much credit. Yeah he was just a non-powered smart dude, and his stuff with Hercules was good, but he was still just a Rick Jones replacement

>>54042930
Yeah but he could've been much more

>>54032373
Every american superhero was made by a Jew

The problem currently is there aren't enough jews in the current industry desu

>>54042912

>Really unless there's some unsolvable equations being traded back and forth between the various geniuses all the "smartest on earth" stuff is mostly just shit-talking

I know Pym and Reed had a massive bitchfit over each other at that point. Complete with 'Pym, I know more about Pym particles than you do'.

Because triggering Pym's inferiority complex never ends badly.

>>54042950
There's Bendis

So... yeah, Jew or not, it'd be better without him honestly

>>54042930
I personally liked the fact that Cho had intellect as his main trait. It's just a pretty rare sight in cape comics and I enjoyed that. I liked DC's Oracle, too, pre-Nu52.

Yeah, being a fan of intellectual heroes is suffering

>>54042984
Honestly Bendis at least has a long history in the industry and understands american comics. The new wave of SJW writers are the cancer.

Complaining about Bendis seems so petty and 2005ish,

>>54043010
Cho being the Hulk's fine. Gamma radiation in Marvel, when it makes people into Hulks, tend to change them into what their desire is. See: Bruce and his rage issues, Jen wanting to be more confident, Samson wanting to be special, Ross wanting to be a leader, Rick wanting to be serious, Leader wanting to be smarter. In this case, Amadeus wants to be more cocky and strong like Herc. Now the fact that Totally Awesome Hulk hasn't been good since issue 10 is something to complain about

Can we make this a thread where we gush about how much better the MCU and the DCAU are compared to there respective comics.

>>54043059
Half of this recent bullshit is Bendis' fault, so fuck him

>>54043172
Eat a dick. You don't even read comics

>>54043122
Samson is best Hulk

>>54043190
Then he died, except Bendis apparently think he's still alive

>>54042671
Riri is a slang name for anyone with e phonetic sound "ree" in their name for example Riahnah would be referred to as Riri, yes its stupid.

>>54042866
Yet you are certainly the kind of dude to screech "pol boogeyman" if someone here say something bad about /pol/.

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>>54031912
God dammit. When I was taught to use Sketchup to do backgrounds and get angles right, I made sure to actually create what I was using.

God damn hacks need to "save time" and get a page done quicker because they're paid $100 per page, aka shit. So they resort to stealing this shit that looks sci-fi and cool. God damn, It make me glad I've only held on to my older comics. When things weren't perfect, but god dammit the only tracing happening was the inker doing his fucking job.

Kirby wasn't perfect, but god damn he had emotion and motion in his art. George Perez is a fucking legend and seeing him work was awesome. That's why these artists perfect faces and specific poses nowadays, because that's all they need to do at conventions where they make their real money.

It's even worse when it stands out so differently from the rest of the art. The line work on the Tau piece, the obvious snow speeder tracing >>54032126 , they stand out because they have such different penciling and inking, and fuck this gay earth >>54032287 .

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>>54043428
Yeah, tracing poser has become the newest "trend" in lazy artists. Good old Deodato, once an actual artist, realized he could just chiaroscuro the shit out of some poser pictures and get paid as much as he does for actually drawing

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>>54043532

>>54043554
>>54043532
>>54043520
>Pandering intensifies

>>54043554
So no to facial hair, yes to alcoholism!

Does she have a drinking problem?

>>54043520
>>54043532
>>54043554
This scene was actually better than nearly everything else in this book but it's still bogged down by both not actually being ironic and by Benis's shitty benisisms, like the panels of nothing to pad out the book and the shitty "realistic" dialogue aped from Mamet and Giffen

>>54043520
>>54043532
>>54043554
Is that a parody or something? I don't get it.

>>54043617
It's real.
I've seen a few people say that she could be redeemed and made into a great villain with that backstory.

>>54039281
Didn't they also retcon the origin of Mjolnir so now it's possessed by a female cosmic superstorm?
I mean, it's still retarded.
But at least it's consistently retarded.

>>54039281
This is wrong. Whor is dumb, but this isn't why,

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Reminder that, despite Marvel insisting on pro-diversity, they've tanked their best legacy hero for no reason

>>54032892
The reason it's niche as hell is because the industry is utterly fucked by left wing politics. Tell me how this makes any sense

>Have the biggest movie franchise in the world
>Have 5 super heroes as part of a team
>Replace 1 of them with a woman who screams about feminism
>Replace another with a black girl
>Continue to release books about progress left wing politics without any compelling characters because everyone is preachy as hell.

The reason comics are niche now is because both marvel and DC drank the cool aid. Had they simply made comics about the movie universe (maybe throw in a 1 liner to reference a previous adventure or an artifact they collected in the comic is in the background) and you will print money.

jesus christ I hate capeshit so fucking much

>>54043520
>>54043532
>>54043554
To be fair, I dusted off my old tumblr account just for this and the riri-williams tag is mostly people making fun of the character. My highlight:
>Riri: So I wanna be something awesome when I grow up

>Teacher: Good for you!

>Riri: bich u was supposed to call me a racial slur so I could hate you and spite you through success

>Teacher: Don’t know what to tell you other than your gusto is impressive

>Riri: *stares unblinking at the teacher for several passing moments*

>Teacher: *gets creeped out* Ok uh…you’ll never be some rich white guy.

>Riri: *googling skin lightening techniques before the teacher is even finished speaking* your oppression is passable, the challenge has been accepted. *said in a haunting demon’s voice*

>>54043878

WE WUZ SUPERHEROES AN SHEEEEIT

>>54043755
>That medic hand

>>54034612
>>54032287

I'm tempted to email these to both Disney and GW just to watch the resultant shitshow.

>>54044246
It already happened. GW slapped Marvel with a lawsuit, and it was settled.

>>54041790
Probably. Then again most of the imperial vehicles are literally a lego bricks.

>>54044265
Aww...huh.

Was there any shitshow to be had? Because I was hoping for a good shitshow.

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>>54043452
Why? Fucking. Why!? How is this acceptable as a comic for people to enjoy? I fucking hate 99.9% of webcomics, but at least most of them try to have original art. I now appreciate independent artists a hell of a lot more.

No wonder my friends call me a grumpy old man. Between this shit and how all comic conventions are going to shit, I can't help but feel grumpy.

Lazy no talent artists selling 11x17's with just a shitty heroes face? How about when he sells it in artist alley, adds a twenty foot tall tarp full of them, and blocks the path because fucking normies have to stop and look a the monument of mediocrity. Yes I'm triggered. Yes I mad.

>>54043554
If only that would work in real life. I'd be insulting minorites and poor people day in day out on the internet for the sake of humanity.

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Here's another!

>>54044311
Not from what I heard. Marvel got called out on their shit, and they paid out to GW and that was it.

>>54044345
Yep, that's a bolt pistol alright.

Is Spidermans ass on fire?

>>54044345
Why did Harvey put a harpoon in the bolt gun?

>>54044398
Why is there some fuck-huge awkward triangle canister attached to it?

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>>54037807
obligatory

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>>54041296
That's pretty much what Kirby was thinking too, since Darkseid is essentially the Ur-Dictator, the living personification of fascism, and there's nothing Jack Kirby hated more then dictators and fascists.

>>54044436
Did i perils of the warp?
what is this bullshit

god this paints >>54037807 in a worse light when i think of this.
Makes me think they assume empowering is subjugation

>>54039281

Im less bothered by Whor existing than I am the actual THOR being reduced to unworthy status just to push this shit. The guy that once had a soul too pure for Mephisto to even touch suddenly a greasy Homeless guy just so a chick could have an interracial relationship with the the new BLM Falcon in Caps jumpsuit

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At least Dark Horse is still good.

>>54044521
Give it 5 years, they'll retcon it harder than House of M.

>>54044545
Now if only BPRD would fucking END. It keeps going from one big disaster right into another one and it's getting tiring. Either end the world or save it already.

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>>54044545
And I'm glad darkhorse is the shit.
And i wish 2000AD was still a thing.
>the first 20 years
is the like the current library editions?
god that would have to be a fucking massive tomb.

>>54044573
i thought it went through with plague of frogs.
The last release I've seen from mignola was lobster Johnson

>>54044436
Please tell me someone emailed those two images to the author of the comic. Please

>>54044436
>bros before hoes pass
KEK

>>54044588
Nope, I've still got plenty after the Plague of Frogs arc. We got even more Ogdru Hem creatures popping up everywhere, like the one in Russia that was controlling the dead to build a lair for itself. The one in the midwestern U.S morphing people into the monsters. Some crazy fuck in Ireland (Scotland?) made a cult and brought back the dead but this time for Rasputin. Oh and a vampire apocalypse short that was neat, but again was just a short.

All these potential end of the world scenarios are piling up and I'm losing interest in wanting to read more when nothing is really progressing.

>>54044657
jez.
I'm glad i only really read BRPD when bruttenholm was at the helm.
That weird Russian demon child thing, i wonder what happened to it.
either way it's more reason to stick to the main hellboy series.

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>>54044684
>I'm glad i only really read BRPD when bruttenholm was at the helm
So...the first story only? Kidding, kidding. I assume you also mean the chronologically earlier Hellboy stories.

>That weird Russian demon child thing, i wonder what happened to it.
Varvara gets loose and unleashes fallen angels to fight the monsters. Also, backstabbing.

>>54044684
She pops up again too, and it's a whole book devoted to making sure she doesn't escape her prison while much of Russia is still teeming with the living dead.

Also the Russian SSS is run by a Frankenstein's monster man and is just plain awesome. He also gives Krauss his fancy suit that appears in Hellboy 2.

>>54037807
I still like the design of female thor, even though it was steeped in the SJW era of marvel.

>>54043755
Really liked the artstyle of that Ghostrider
>hand fucked as hell
Ooooh, right in the pet peeve.

>>54044868
It's a cool helmet, but it's a shame about everything else about the character

>>54044578
How is 2000AD not a thing? It comes out every week.

>>54043878
Whats replacing tumblr as a blogging platform?

>>54044545
You mean the way they made Dredd gay and included Nigel Farage in their comics as a bad guy?

>>54045351
Are you replying to >>54045174? 1) That was a story about a judge impersonator 2) Go back as far as you like and find me a Dredd that doesn't parody politicians. Goddamn you little bitch, you don't even read the shit you complain about.

>>54045392
>Does a story on gay main character
>It was just an impersonator man!

Uh huh..

>>54045414
It's a story about a gay fetish club where they dress up as judges. Jimping is illegal and the story ends with the main character (who is not Dredd) being busted for 5 years. There's another one where a dude falls for Dredd and ends up being subject to Pavlovian shock therapy, if that suits you better.

Honestly we have Lawless and Deadworld right now which are both top tier Dredd universe strips, and here's you being a cunt about a comic you don't read because it had a gay guy in it at one point. 2000AD ran Devlin Waugh strips for years, you fucking retard.

>>54045460
>Muh faggotry

>>54040135
>I fucking hate non-antkind so much

>>54041411
You're not alone, homie, you're not alone. Chaos! Comics were my jam back then, I was so excited by the news that Dynamite picked up the setting and was let down by the lackluster effort of their reboot. I think though that the license is going back up in a few years, maybe Brian Pulido can take back the rest of his creations when that happens.

>>54045414
Well, it was. Basically a Judge themed gay bar.

>>54045471
>muh basic understanding of a comic I've actually read
It's a total lie to put 2000AD in the same bracket as Marvel right now. If you have some other argument, feel free to make it.

>>54042900
Fucking nignogs stealing our white people culture and shit. WE WUZ KONIGS!

>>54032287

There's something incredibly unsettling about the other components (turret, engines, doors, drones) not being appropriately scaled to the chassis on these Skyrays. I can't put my finger on it.

>>54044345
Okay Harvey looks like he's 10 how does he have an ex wife?

>>54045488

You do not fuck with the House of Mouse.

>>54045993
>skyraylets, when will they learn?

>>54045351

Others have already shot down the gay thing but making Farage "a bad guy".

Come on the man is a complete chancer, a total cunt and nothing but a meme at this point.
Perfect for taking the piss out of.

>>54046160
He's the UK equivalent of the gay frog conspiracy guy really

>>54046160

Yeah and British comedy has never stepped away from taking the shit out of it's own politicians. Australian and British comedy have a lot less respect for people in office (Even people they support) than american comedy seems to.

>>54031912
Ok, does this mean that smartest human is on par with an average earth caste engineer?

>>54046283
Mechanicum in suicide death watch squad

>>54044443
The primary but subtle difference is that for Kirby evil is the result, but for Morrison evil is the purpose.

>>54043579

The saddest shit ive seen in comics was that one GOOD ethnic character in Miss Marvel opened the floodgates for a tidal wave of absolute shit that completely missed the point of why one specific thing was good in the first place

Its weird the SJW pandering bullshit of today is almost exactly the same as the shitty antiheroes of the 90s

>>54032022
>>54032214
>>54032287
>>54032779
>>54037208
>>54037807
The fuck is this shit? When did comics go to shit

>>54043520
>>54043532
>>54043554
>this is real
Just kill me now

>>54034405
It's 95% one artist, dude. Greg Land's a cursed treasure that keeps on cursing.

>>54046577
1933

>>54042895
This. I.e. Susan in King's Dark Tower is a person having lots of things besides being black disabled woman to contribute to her character. Or smokey guy in Worm.

>>54043814
Do you legitimately believe this?

That comics today, as a whole, are niche only because they're "utterly fucked by left wing politics"?

Is this an accurate representation of your opinion?

Because it's super dumb and wrong, like, just straight up inaccurate to reality.

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>That moment when a fa/tg/uy's hand-made insanity is orders of magnitude more enjoyable and less retarded.

>>54046801
>two are silent

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>>54046801
>less retarded
Less straightforward and more dressed up in mysticism at least

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>>54046811
Hey, atleast the mystical dressing makes for interesting worldbuilding.

>>54046811
>becomes a woman the moment it needs character
Fuck you, gimme back spike humanoid

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>>54036499

>>54046843
yeah.
Abbadon's preference for making certain angels non-gendered beings that identify as female is a bit annoying.

>>54043520
>>54043532
>>54043554
Holy shit this is awful. It's pretty much reveling in victim complex, fucking hell

>>54043615
>This scene was actually better than nearly everything else in this book
I shudder to think what the rest of the book is like then

>>54046843

Pretty sure he is just an androgynous man.

All angels are "male" by default, the ones that are not are aberrations

>>54043755
They ruined Kamala too. But they keep pushing all the other awful pandering characters, and then wonder why they don't sell as much

>>54046517
Kamala worked because she was essentially the good old John Byrne "awkward teenage nerdy heroine" archetype with the numbers filed off. The ethnic part came as a bonus, not the main thing.

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>>54044521
To be fair, Thor himself had a bit of jungle fever as well back in the day... in fact, I don't think he really cared for the color of mortal and supernatural women he romanced.

But yeah, the whole Femthor-Falcap thing felt very forced, and probably just meant for cheap "make republican pundits mad" publicity which essentially failed. Then there's a theory that Bendis just has a BLACKED fetish since he seems to push a black love interests onto every white heroine he gets his hands on. Knowing comic writers and their track record of inserting their fetishes into their work, it doesn't seem too implausible.

>>54046801
>>54046811
>>54046837
Source?

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>>54047026
Kill 6 Billion Demons

>>54045351
>>54045414
>>54045471
Look, I'm as anti-SJW as they come, I hate what current Marvel (and parts of current DC) have become – and I'm saying you're a fucking idiot. 2000AD isn't perfect, but it's the best non-serious action comic out there at the moment, and it's definitely not pandering to the SJW. So shut the fuck up.

>>54047064
thank

>>54046843
I think abaddon does a good job of depicting androgyny as being something other than male with no genitals.

>>54045474
>Chaos! comics
My nigga. Oh for the times when excessive bloodshed and scantily clad, kickass women were nothing to be upset about.

Oh for the times when FUN WAS ALLOWED.

>>54046807
They're Pale Demons; they can't talk.

>>54036716
Spain actually has worthwhile comics though as in not capeshit that sell more than (((marvel))) and Spanish artists are absolutely fantastic compared (((american))) ones, just because you can only read pre-pubescent power fantasies doesn't mean any normal adult can stomach them, like the rest of the (((american))) ''''''culture''''''

>>54047075
This. It's a bit lefty, but it's always been a bit lefty and it hasn't shied away from attacking stupidity elsewhere either.

>>54042825
Marvel officially ranks her higher than everyone, with Reed at #2. They made a video about it.

>>54042877
He's been demoted by and is mostly written as Chad Thundercock these days. Outside of his own book, any reference to him being smart is mocked. Seriously.

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>>54044328
To be fair, there's still quite a few great artists. It's just that it's become easier to be lazy in comic art

>>54049737
It's more like you have to be if you want to deliver on time.

>>54046875
Its a running theme with the comic. Women.
And I'm not talking like "Ugh women" I'm just saying look at this >>54046837 was it really necessary to say the first human was gendered at all?


Its a small thing, the comic still does what it does well enough, its just that it really stands out and it bothers me to jump out of the comic going "fuck that was awkward."

>>54050374
The joke being that 'man' is (or used to be rather) a gender neutral term. With

>>54050475
Yeah I know, its just that its a recurring theme. Jokes, points and even characters. As I said, i don't really care about it THAT much, its just an annoying eyecatcher. As long as the story, the design and everything else is good what difference does it make.

I mean it has nothing on the absolute autism that is the comment section, now thats something I hate. Like holy fuck, giving random strangers the ability or idea that their writing can change things really shits things up.

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>>54050058
Ehhhh. You can still pump things out fast and still create things that are passable. Take Stjepan Sejic, for example. His art's super rushed but it still looks good