/wfg/ - Warhammer Fantasy General

There's a quote I see often on the loading screens of Total Warhammer that goes something like

>I'm sure he didn't love me the most; that honor goes to Isabella. But he loved me the longest.

said by Manfredd. What is that even supposed to mean? I thought he was turned sometime after Vlad took over Sylvania, so it's not likely he was a vampire longer than Isabella, even if he came before. Even if he was actually far older, what does it matter that you were loved the longest?

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Didn't get around to responding to the last thread. But Snikch isn't just an assassin, he's a ninja, and he triple wields, which you presumably wouldn't do unless you were dueling someone.

Statlines:
Queek:
M5- -Ws7- -Bs6- -S4- -T4- -W3- -I7- -A4(5)- -Ld8-

Magic items double wounds caused, inflicts a S 3 hit on attackers.

Snikch
-M6- -Ws8- -Bs6- -S4- -T4- -W3- -I10- -A5- -Ld9-

Magic items give additional -1 to enemy saves, cause d3 wounds per wound, can double his strength (to 8) 3 times per battle during the magic phase.

Snikch slays him.

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Hey /tg/, check out what I picked up for only 7 bucks! It's the first edition RPG...I was hoping to find the much preferred 2nd edition, but this is cool enough!

>>54008300
2nd edition is probably easier to get hold of and has a good pdf version.
1dt edition has sweet building floorplans in the back and stats for Zoats.

Can't say I'm not envious.

So I wanna get some friends into WFRP and a chaos champion campaign seems like it'd be tons of fun, are any of the modules in the mediafire specifically for chaos characters?

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>>54008300

You've done well, that's in really good condition given its age.

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>>54008779
You wouldn't happen to want to get a campaign going online would you? I'm really looking to play 1st or 2nd edition with a group, but no one is really near my area...

Some of the inside artwork...love it..

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>>54008448
>>54008805
Thanks! Going to post a few pics of the inside... It's really a beauty of a book... My request still stands though guys. If you or anyone knows of any one looking to start a small online campaign for with a newbie, for Warhammer Roleplay, please let me know, I'd love to join, or help get something started...

Here's another color inside shot...

>>54008830

Not him but I've always been curious, do people play RPG's online with text or with mics?

>>54008830
>>54008875
I just play with coworkers when we all have off the same day so it's pretty sporadic, usually we just play on discord with mics but occasionally buy some beers and play in person

>>54008875
My group uses mics.

>>54006770
It further illustrates how Mannfred's personality is:
1) Daddy issues
2) Petulant
3) Know-it-all

By bragging he's still got more love than Isabella, he tries to make himself seem more important.

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Araby proxies?

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>>54008995

Loads of great stuff here.

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_33_53&osCsid=9upp7qste80ouleq11cpjmvhj3

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>>54008995
You funny bastard. That's a good one.

>>54009165
Sorry, I was just making a joke.

That being said, what core army would Araby mist likely fight alongside for use as proxies?
Tomb Kings? Empire? High Elves?

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Welp, in the Night Goblin squatting panic I bought 110 Night Gobbos plus 7 Fanatics, a shaman, and a boss.

I didn't even like Night Goblins, but the 7e paint starter set Night Goblin was the first mini I ever painted and I felt like it was my last chance.

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>>54008860
>>54008830

Check out the character sheets.. xD love it...

>>54009515
Ah, Blanche.


So who's your favorite Warhammer artist?

Does anyone have that big image chart an anon made showing all the artists and an example of their work? I think it was Space Marine themed.

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>>54009515

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>>54009515

Whoops, wrong pic..

>>54009631

Hmm favorite artist? Not sure. Who ever did the cover art to the 6th edition Bretonnia book has my heart forever...

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>>54009650

Awesome, looks even better in color......here's a few more I snapped if you guys like.. Still looking for a gaming group... just tossing it out there...

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>>54009751
>>54009694
>>54009515
>>54008860
>>54008830

Deciding to get into fantasy/AoS, and I'm liking the look and idea of the lizardmen. Something about dinos riding dinos is great. Question is, local meta notwithstanding, how bad are they? What can I expect in trying to transition from 40k to fantasy?

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>>54010276
1st bit of advice. Get into Warhammer Classic...Skip AOS.

2nd. Lizardmen bad? No way, when played right, they can be terrifying... Well formidble at least. Skinks...don't underestimate skinks.

3rd. What army did you play in 40k? Warhammer Classic is a much slower, more methodical game. I enjoy it way way more than 40k in terms of game. It's very chess like in terms of thinking ahead.

Movement, and turns in 8th (and 9th) is vital. You don't want to get out manevuered, or flanked etc... You need to have units that actually work together to accomplish survivibility. not like in 40k where you just grab as much shooty stuff as possible. Trust me, if you like fantasy, and strategy and not a hyper active kid with 0 attention span, you'll like Warhammer....

AOS is 40k with a "Fantasy" spin..Avoid it.

>>54006423
So do all the old kits still have square bases or have they switched to round now?

>>54010328
I play marines, guard, and eldar. My general playstyle is a lot more static than is probably advised, so that might be an issue. So would getting the 'start collecting' box for the scalies be a solid choice? I'd assume it would be, but aside from it what else would be a good base to add too?

>>54010349
Some round, some still square.

>>54010662

I don't think what armies you play in 40K will matter much as the two games are totally different.

Lizardmen are a good army, the start collecting is okay but the knights haven't aged very well.

A fairly average list will have a big block of temple guard with a slann, big block of saurus and then some skink skirmishers and some big dinos.

>>54006423
Does the infamous chinaman still make OOP fantasy armies/models?

I found a website of people devoted to RPing as Bretonnians online. Surprisingly still active. I'm fighting my every instinct to bully them.

>>54010921
Think I've got a general gist of what I'll plan on getting first then. Temple guard though, I checked the store site, and the only guard are the saurus guard. Are they the same thing? And thanks for the advice.

>>54011322
When you have a strong source of autism, resist the urge to interact.

Mock them from a distance, trying to get into the face of insane communities is how we got /mlp/, /trash/, and /pol/.

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>>54011340

Yeah it appears they've renamed them to Saurus Guard for some reason but they're essentially the same.

If you want more inspiration there's a handbook here that goes into detail on every unit.

http://www.lustria-online.com/threads/the-8e-lizardmen-handbook-updated-november-2nd-2014.13130/

Although, I wouldn't sweat over it too much since it was wrote for 8E.

>>54011710

Written*

>>54006770
According to ET, Mannfred was in Nehekhara with Vlad/Vashanesh.

>>54012111
We don't talk about ET here.

It's AOS canon.

>>54009631
>Favoured Artist?

Adrian Smith without a doubt

>>54009353

Well, if that reassures you, Ngobbos are an excellent unit, and one of the ways to really push a competitive O&C army.

Field them against a melee-oriented army and drink deeply from their tears

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>>54009631
>Adrian Smith
Whoever it is that did a lot of art for the 7th ed Army Books
Also Blanche

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>>54009631
Karl Kopinski.

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>>54013073
Paul Dainton.

>>54009694
Alex Boyd.

>>54006533
Teclis ain't cool enough to be Benedict Cumberbatch

>>54013755
I think you've got it the other way around.
That alien looking motherfucker

>>54013791
Teclis is a poor man's Raistlin rip off, and not cool

Benedict Cumberbatch is Doctor Sherlockhan Strange, the Dragon of the Lonely Mountain

there's really no competition here

>>54006423
Does anyone else love that Total War Skarsnik can buff all his Goblins to have better weapon skill and charge bonuses than Chosen?
Watching gobbo archers give anything unarmoured a good kicking is golden.

>>54013815
I really don't get the whole cult worship Benbongo Cucumber has
He's an ugly alien looking piece of shit, all he has is an accent

What do, /whfb/?
Its been in decline ever since AoS hit, but now it finally reached its bottom... I lost all interest in tabletop gaming. All aspects of it - collecting, conversion, painting, playing - nothing is appealing anymore. What do?

>>54013834
He's got a nice voice, and tumblr has had more bizarre worship in the past.
Hooch Pandersnatch isn't that much of a stretch.

>>54013923
Try different games
Take a break

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Orcs & Goblins army list of many memes, r8 me m8s

2000 points

--Lords--

Black Orc Warboss - Wizarding hat, shield, warboar
287pts
Savage orc shaman, lvl4 - Dispel scroll, Shrieking blade (because leftover points)
240pts

--Heroes--

Goblin Big Boss BSB - light armour, great weapon, Spider Banner
141pts
Orc Big Boss - Great weapon
59pts
Orc Big Boss - Great weapon
59pts

--Core--

50 Night Goblin archers - 3 fanatics, netters, full cmd
300pts
30 Savage Orc Big 'uns - additional hand weapon, full cmd
365pts

--Special--

5 Boar Boyz - Spear & shield, full cmd

--Rare--

Doom diver
80pts
Doom diver
80pts

3 Stone Trolls
135pts
3 Stone Trolls
135pts

Right around 2000 points total

BOrc is the general
Lords in the Savage Orc block
Banner with Night gobbos for 20billion poison shots
Each Orc Big Boss goes with a Stone Troll unit so they have Ld8 and not 4 for Stupidity if they wander too far from the general

>>54009631

Got a strong love/hate relationship with Blanche's art.

A lot of his older stuff and things like city scapes or space ships are really pretty great.

I always hated his "sketch" pieces that were always splattered in red paint. Ruined the Inquisitor and Liber Chaotica books.

>>54014366

Maybe 1 big unit of 30 night goblins, with 2 small ones might be better. You get more fanatics, and the shots are the same.

>>54014540
But if I did 30 + 10 + 10, I'd only get 30 poisoned shots with the Spider Banner

>>54014572

And with 50 globlins you'll get 35 of them.

However, you get 6 more fanatics with the smaller units

>>54014749
Spread the unit wide enough and you'll get 50 though
Range, however, might prove troublesome

>>54014814

a 25 wide units of goblin is going to lose combat and ranks from fucking clanrats.

>>54014838
You wouldn't want them to go fight though, just shoot
You can always reform if the enemy gets close enough

>>54007297
But if I'm not mistaken, queeks armor can reflect some wounds. If we are talking tabletop, the assassin has a better statline, but there far more that can go wrong against him.

If we are talking lore, I wouldn't discount queeks ferocity. The guy is completely mad and if the headtaker novel has any truth in it, he may actually have talking spirits that watch his back.

It's a batman vs superman argument in the end: the only solution is they work together better then against each other.

>>54014859

The fact is, 25 models wide, it's ridicolusly easy to charge them. They have a fuckhuge front, and they're not a tarpit.

Reminder that mathwise Valten is stronger than Archaon, and before getting nerfed into oblivion, with a bit of luck, Thogrim Grudgebearer could kill Archaon in a single turn

>>54015342
With luck any melee named character could kill Archaon in a single turn, and vice versa

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>>54006423
Thoughts?

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>>54013755
>>54013815
>Teclis is not Cumberbatch

Take a long, good look at his face.

>>54011438
>>54011322
You two morons know you're on a board dedicated to roleplaying, right?

>>54013139
Agreed

>>54015654
Vanilla / 10
Kinda boring to be honest, but whatever floats your boat my man. Give it a go and see how it feels.
I'd take more big things myself

>>54015989
There's a difference between forum and imageboard roleplaying.

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>>54009631
Tony Ackland.

>>54014366
>very very heavy skirmishers

>>54016161
You keep telling yourself that, but I've seen how a good chunk of you roleplay.

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>>54016107
What about a meme list like this?

>>54016574
If I ran into someone with enough models to pull it off, I'd be impressed but also disgusted enough to play them

Right guys, so I recently joined a WFRP game and one of the other players is far into that guy territory.
>plays a dwarf
> an atheist dwarf
> who shaves

The guy didn't even read any of the fluff on dwarfs even after the gm sent him a wiki article on the war of vengeance.
The GM is a pretty chill guy and had a lot of trouble finding enough players so he doesn't want to kick him.
I had a chat with him after the game and he seems to have only played pathfinder before and has never played a game where the setting mattered.
The out of the other players, one has sided with his stance saying that a player shouldn't be punished for not knowing about the setting and the other didn't show up to the first session but rolled a stereotypical warhammer dwarf and seems well versed in the lore.
I am playing a bailiff going into politician, and devout sigmarite and was wondering what advice you might have on how best to deal with that guy.

>>54016827
>atheist
>that shaves

Let him enjoy not having friends

Most that guy problems tend to solve themselves if the GM is not a little bitch

>>54016827
NPCs should confuse him with a halfling.

>>54016861
His character was infact introduced by the GM as looking like a tall fat halfling.

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>>54010662
Are you submitting to the crapfest that is AOS then? I don't think they sell "start collecting" boxes for Warhammer Fantasy Classic. I'm telling you avoid AOS...it's not a very deep game. You should still be able to find Lizardmen armies around, and not for hugely inflated costs like Brets and Tomb Kings.

You shouldn't have *too* hard of a time transitioning from 40k, as the other poster said, it's a completely different mechanic, but you mentally have to be ready to play a different style.

So besides something like meetup.org what's a good way to find gamers not only in my area, but even online? Aka, people looking to start an online game of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay?

>>54016963
Good. I hope it annoys him greatly.

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>>54016827
Best Advice? Is it an online campaign? Boot him, and get me an invite!

>>54017014
Unironically Roll20

There might be a lot of shit in there, but i found a lot of great players i play all sorts of game with.

Met my current GF through it

>>54017195
Hey thanks mate...and met your GF on it? That's one heck of a selling point there lol..

>>54017014
Not necessarily submitting to AoS so to speak. It's just that in my area the only actual lgs that I know of are GW, so my options are kind of limited. Of course, if i was desperate enough, I could take an hour or so to drive to a better place to play, but that option is also kind of limited.

>>54017014
>Are you submitting to the crapfest that is AOS then? I don't think they sell "start collecting" boxes for Warhammer Fantasy Classic
Are you fucking retarded, Anon?
The Start Collecting! boxes contain the same miniatures we use in Fantasy you fucking dumbass

>>54017725
you can put them on square bases and play your scalies in both games, desu

>>54017912
So... is the hostility really needed here? Look back at what you wrote, and your life, and do some searching..

>>54017725

I don't like AoS but at the end of the day you have to play what people are playing near you and if that's what they play they kind of have you at an impasse.

I would just put them on squares and play AoS if you have to, you'll probably enjoy it for a bit before you start getting bored. Then you can move to Kings of War or 8E/9E once you have a bigger collection. I'm sure you can convince some of the people at the shop to play them as well.

>>54016827
>atheist

I'd have Tzeentch turn him into a Chaos Spawn.

>>54018284

He was being a bit of a nonse, all he said was that he was getting a start collecting box and he assumed he was playing AoS.

Plus as I said people play what other people are already playing, he will probably have to play AoS at some point.

>>54018284
You go on the GW site and look at the Start Collecting! boxes and come back & tell me that they don't contain the exact same models we had in Fantasy
I'm perfectly comfortable with what I wrote and how my life is going

sellin my fantasy armies for food right meow on craigsbutt feelz bad man

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>mark of chaos isn't on steam

>>54009300
Lizardmen and vampire counts.

>>54018450
Um okay, yea I made a mistake. You see in life, we humans do that. It's a horrible thing and definitely needs to be over reacted to.

>>54019110
lol because Mark of Chaos was horrid. Total War is far far superior, literally in every way.

>>54019322
But I liked Mark of Chaos.

>>54019322
You're a monster.

>>54019322
double digits of partial truth
>>54019361
>>54019403
Mark of Chaos was alright but the Total War game really is a lot better than Mark was, be honest with yourselves.

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Well not to get too off topic..SO here's another shot of the illustrated beauty of the 1st Edition RPG

>>54019485
All I want is a single romp in the campaign, and an older game would be the cheaper and less time consuming method.

>>54008830
I'm currently organizing an online campaign that plays Fridays 7pm EST. We just use discord.

>>54019567
but the quality of the single romp is way more satisfying than M.O.C ever could offer. Trust me anon...if you like Warhammer Fantasy... GET the total war game..

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>>54019682
>all those elipseses

>>54016685
I have a friend who has enough for that, and he does. I can't win against his 300 zombies.

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>>54019663
What edition? Think you would be interested in hosting a newbie to the game/party? Do you have a set group already?

>>54020258
I guess you could try evaporating his characters and see where it goes from there
What do you play against it?

>>54016574
Nothing there can do high damage.

It'd be fun to waste.

>>54019127
Romanians hate kebab.

>>54020609
Don't do VonMemestains.

>>54020346
Dark elves, and he runs nagash

I have a question regarding the Palanquin of Pestilence. Seeing as its attacks are daemonic attacks does that mean that they can't benefit from having poison attacks through the help of Nurgle spells or Festus?

>>54020715
HE player here, don't DE have an equivalent to the Swordmasters?

>>54020715
Try drowning Nagash in poison and.. somehow staving off the zombie hordes I guess

>>54015654

Merge those warriors units, they'll be dead meat otherwise.

Why no rare choice? At least catapults.

Tomb guards are far too few, you'll never break steadfast.

>>54016574

You'll lose each and every time against almost anyone.

A single purple sun will kill that list, goddamit

>>54020715

>playing ET

found your problem

>>54020609
Everyone who deals with durkas hates durkas. Even durkas hate durkas.

>>54021036
Kinda, they're just s4 elves with greatweapons, no other fun rules.

>>54009300
Araby has canonical trade relations with the sea elves, and I expect they trade slaves to the druchii. Araby and Bretonnia don't get along so well, on the other hand. Ogre mercs would probably work for the Arabyans. Tomb Kangz regularly attack them.

>>54021229
You play with 50% Lord & Hero allowances?
Beastmen with Marks of Chaos, maybe?
Chances are you're playing ET too, if it's 8th

>>54021229
Yea I know, but I get to use all of my eleven faggotry at least.

>>54021258
These are Islamic Golden Age durkas though.

Only groups they've gone to war with hate them and they aren't arguing about who is the rightful kebab pope yet.

>>54021272
What about Black Guard? I know that the Executioners' KB is kinda wasted on zombies, though

>>54021272
No multiple attacks?

That's all you really need, a fuckload of lawnmowers.

>>54021297
No one likes the Arabyans, because they're known pretty much for the same things ours were: having to be cleansed from Spain, the slave trade, and piracy.

>>54021398
Real kebab wasn't being eradicated by locust vampires so hard that crusaders have to be called in to save them though.

>>54021313
Black guard are a greatanvil against an unit that will beat them in vv other then that their eternal hatred and stubborn are usless

>>54021291

>nope
>nope

>>54021475
More's the pity.

>>54018557

Why?

In my experience it's not worth selling models, you never get back your time or money unless they're OOP and rare.

>>54021475
Man, vampire lore gets weird.

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>>54019564

Here's a colour version.

>>54022432
anon, he's implying he isn't even trying to get his money back, he's trying to afford food

>>54016574

Seeing that list with the GW kit would make me vomit.

>>54022462

Yeah but if he's in such dire straits he would be better off getting financial help since he'll probably get enough money to last him a fortnight at most.

>>54021291

I let TK and BM have their updates because they need them but everything else is an ask first addition.

>>54022439
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Mahtmasi

>>54020715
>>54021036

You want witch elves, they put out a ridiculous number of attacks and if he's being a faggot use the cauldron.

>>54022548
I get that it's based on actual vampire lore from somewhere or another in the real world, but it still seems like an excuse for weird bug things for me. I tend to just ignore it.

>>54022616
They're one of the rarer bloodlines as it is. I quite like them because, if you DM them right, it's not even immediately obvious they're vampires at all.

Plus the fear of cats and m'lady weakness the bloodline has is unusual and fun.

>>54022637
They are interesting and would be fun on the tabletop, like Nurgle/VC without needing End Times Posterboy Carsteins.

Jade-blooded sound interesting, but outside of short stories I can't imagine them being useful for WFRP or Warhammer Fantasy. They're basically useless unless Cathay became an army and you could take one on a hoverchair like a skinny Slann.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Jade-Blooded

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>>54022637
I think that's why I don't like them - if I wanted an enemy that didn't seem like a vampire, I wouldn't make them a vampire. It seems wrong to me that they are vampires if they don't really act like it, and the Warhammer world has plenty of excuses for all sorts of other crazy monsters that aren't well explained. I know it's a stupid bit of pedantry, but doesn't it take away from these beetle-sand-things if you find out 'oh they're just vampires?' Mystery and interest gone.

The article relates them to the Strigoi, but not only do they push their beastial theme far harder, but they don't have the fluff bits that I think make them interesting - they don't really act like spurned rulers of an ancient empire, and have cut off all contact with their ancient past and embraced their strange existence.

>>54022821
Remember they were made for the RPG though, not Warhammer Fantasy.

Their whole shtick is being a far more corporeal and malevolent djinn.

>>54022821
I think you find out they are vampires long before you find out about the sand beetle thing.
That's when you get the choice of joining them to avoid Bad End, slaughter their clan, or die horribly.

They're more like Vargheists than a full on bloodline like Strigoi.

>>54022821
Saying they're Strigoi is a gross inaccuracy. They're much worse than Strigoi - crueler, smarter, and more cooperative.

Does any anon know where to find proxy models for a Carnival of Chaos warband for Mordheim?

>>54020335
>What edition?
2E
>Think you would be interested in hosting a newbie to the game/party?
Maybe. Got lots of newbies. Its not an issue.
>Do you have a set group already?
Almost.

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Question for WFRP DMs - how do you handle new mutations that cancel out old ones? Let's say you got Additional Eye and then Featureless Face? Do you rule that Featureless Face erases everything except the new eye? If you go with new overriding old, do you discount erased mutations against the max count before turning into a spawn?

>>54023192
Yeah, Strigoi want to build a functioning society that's equal with everyone else but can't seem to. They're like Egyptian moderates or 1945-1980's Turkey.

Mahmtasi or whatever are ISIS. They just want to destroy everything that isn't themselves.

>>54023504
Unlike the other bloodlines, they seem to completely lack for any redeeming features, save the fact that many cannot bring themselves to harm women. But that's a compulsion, not a virtue.

>>54023384
Invisible eyes. Or the eyes move off the face down onto the body or onto eyestalks, or back of the head. .

Finding a way to make it work is the fun part.

>>54023523
Necrarchs are pure irredeemable villains too though. Most Von Carsteins as well.

The Strigoi comparison is only true if you combine it with Blood Dragons sans the stabilizing influence of Abhorash.

As far as being a "protagonist" goes, they are basically what Nagash is. Something better than Chaos where you actually have a chance to not only join them but rise through their ranks.

They're almost like if Nagash lead the Tyranids via Clan Eshin.

I actually find it interesting how their Antideluvian has ET Nagash's goal and Isabella's Nurgle combo thing. Methinks they recycled the ideas into the event.

>>54023280
I personally just made kitbashes from my large pile of nurgle-related bits. Greenstuff helped alot aswell.
However the theme I went with wasn't Circus of Nurgle. Instead I went with a noblewomen and her household who gave in to despair after first withering the apocalyptic destruction of their hometown and then trying to survive in the hellish nightmare that followed.

>>54023795
Neat. You should post those sometime.

Hey, if GW really hasn't squatted Night Goblins, how long would it take for their Start Collecting box to come out? I'm debating waiting for it to get Squigs cheap or get a horde of Gobbos on eBay now before the cost gets insane.

>>54023883

Don't know if they'll get a start collecting, probably just a rebox with rounds.

They usually take a month.

>>54023883
Night Gobbos will probably get round base box'd so they're not going anywhere
You'll still get plenty cheap night goblins off ebay if you want the spear variant, since people are selling the Battle for Skull Pass night goblins
I got 20 for 10€, and when I told the guy some of them were damaged in the feedback, he sent me 10 more

They're also unlikely to be getting a "Start Collecting!" box before they get new releases, if they ever get any

>>54023918
>>54024017
Damn.

I wish GW announced their moves ahead of time so I'd know their plans. I'd love to get Squigs cheap alongside Gobbos since secondhand Squigs are barely below GW prices and usually still need stripping. I gotta get 30 more Gobbos for my T9A army still, so cheap Squigs and Gobs in one would be excellent.

>>54024195
Yeah you never know with these guys
Either they do something that's OK, or they do something completely self destructive

>>54023184
Are you sure? It sounds like they're a bloodline of their own.

>>54023192
I said the article 'relates' them to the Strigoi, but I guess the better term would be 'compares and contrasts' - they're the 'Strigoi of the South,' but 'unlike the Strigoi,' and says how you can use Strigoi rules for count-as Mahtmasi in the wargame.

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>>54023810
I did a while back ago. Never got around to fully painting them however nor did I play alot of matches with them. Some of them will probably be repurposed to fit within my WoC army. Fluffwise the two I've used are the same persons in both games.
Here's one of them before I had put any paint on him.
He was the hired thug and bodyguard to the Lady Ygraine von Saël. Can't remember his name though since all of this is from memory.

>See mordheim on sale on steam for $10
>load it up. loved the table top of it
>The fucking % system

Holy fuck how am I even supposed to play this game? Good fucking god this RNG puts darkest dungeon to shame. First quest wants 75 lbs of warpstone and I cant gather more then 3 a match without some fucking zombie doding my hits like fucking Matrix and hitting me like one punch. Any tips?

stop letting the thread die REE

>>54024955
I'm busy keeping two other ded threads alive, sorry I keep letting this one slip.

>>54024696
You ignore the estimated chance, it always lies.

You remember that the computer is a retarded Bloodletter that has no goal except to rush you and cheats in its own favor, so you have to group up on them and aim for maps where your dudes all start in the same place. Use one fast runner with a big inventory to gather Warpstone after most of your dudes bog down theirs.

>>54024955
Can we discuss homebrew, lore, paintjobs, or anything like that?

That's what kept threads going pre-ET. We mostly just talked about continuity and OCs.

are there any good lore videos for quickly learning a lot about the setting besides arch wahrammer?

Guys,
I've posted this in the art thread but perhaps you could help me as well.

I'm planning a new terrain project for Warhammer and wanted to make a training ground for ranged troops.
online I can't seem to find anything that scratches that creative itch and am in dire need of inspiration.
While I do want to make a dwarf themed piece anything would actually help.

>>54026143
Depends how large and complex you want your training ground but basically any shooting range is going to have at one end: old round shields like skellys used to come with as targets, on a balsa wood frame. Can model arrows or even bullet holes.

And at the other end; some kind of sheltered area or hut where troops would prep weapons and store ammunition. Raid you bits boxes for bows, handguns, etc etc.

>>54025507

As far as I'm concerned people can discuss anything that's even remotely related to Warhammer. People can discuss ET for all I care I just don't think many people take it as /tg/ canon.

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>>54026143

>>54025656
Used to be a bunch. What kind of thing specifically are you looking for?

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>>54026296
You're right on point for the target side, shields, silhouettes mocking orcs, and a basic human stick figure were what I had in mind.

I had not thought about sheltering the shooting area.

Uhm... it does make sense especially since they're dwarf and do not have ranged weapons that shoot in an arch.

I was thinking of having "lanes" with starting points at different lengths.

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>>54026143
I found this at the round table of bretonnia forum.
It could be a start.

>>54026382
anything really, specifically lore videos on subjects that aren't to common I guess

What's everyone opinion on Archwarhammer? I know /twg/ loathes him. I kinda liked him, until he started screaming about Hitler being right.

>>54027315
Only watched his Night Goblins video. Hate his voice, and he's just parroting 8e lore you could download here.

Also, the Hitler thing might be a Pewdie Pie joke.

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>>54027315
this has nothing to do with warhammer,it's lore, the games, the tabletops. or even him doing warhammer lore

keep your shitposting outa here, better yet I'm sure the aos general would be welcoming.


>>54025656
you can also read specifically about whatever interests you, go find the warhammer wikis then 1d4chan if you want some zesty memes intermingled.
Honestly anon get to readin the books as well about whatever factions/characters really float your boat.

>>54025507
I always post my models in here, I've recently been working on greatswords and unit fillers. Only the bannerman and one greatsword left to assemble then all 28 of them are done!.
Pic related. But i've done 4 regimentally since this guy over the weekend and it's burnt me out a bit as I usually do models 1 by 1, or 2by 2 at best

>>54027172
FUck, all the ones I used to follow are just gone. I had a bunch bookmarked.

I'm guessing GW issues takedowns? Or maybe they just deleted their videos instead of burning their minis when AoShit dropped.

Found these.
https://youtu.be/3eBPQAQ18YQ
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgJnGv5hDGtuOitFYDGVXc4jjl7D753YJ

Honestly though, I'd ignore videos. Download the intro in the OP.

If any anons here have non-shitty voices, do some vids for us to put in the OP. Its not a bad idea.

MTO
ORDER
WHEN

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Would you accept Scuttlings in Warhammer Fantasy?

>>54008300

I have the first and second edition of this from my uncles old RPG collection

are they hard to come by?

>>54028308
as night gobbos sure, but the bases gotta be fixed anon

>>54028874
I'm just thinking of buying a bunch to put on squares as Forest Goblins or Night Goblins in different lists. One purchase, two options.

>>54006423
So I could pretty much just use Mantic/Perry minis for this game right?

>>54028922
Use whatever you want that fits on the correct base size and you/your community feel is appropriate.

Reaper Bones, Knightmare, Zenit, Tabletop Miniatures Solutions, Ral Partha, whatever works.

>>54028308
They look like what would happen if Night Goblins decided that they wanted to shack up with a Forest Goblin's pet spider. Might be useful if you wanted some chaos-twisted Goblins, but why would you want them otherwise?

>>54028308

Yeah Silver Towers were a thing in Fantasy so everything in that game can be easily ported over.

>>54028922
What you gonna use from Perrys?

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>>54029002
They seem like the natural progression of both species.

Next they lose their eyes and become poisonous to kill a Nurgle Daemon.

Why does every mutation have to be Chaos anyway? Chaod wasn't behind Forest Goblins or Night Goblins mutating into their current forms.

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>>54029002
Funnily enough, GW can't do spider Chaos mutants. They lost that copyright to Tony Ackland.

You can buy them from him at Knightmare Miniatures now.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/554542735/pantheon-of-chaos-chapter-two

>>54029132
I was under the impression that they were all still Goblins, just a bit more used to their respective biomes - even Gnoblars were still Goblins, just a bit stunted.

>>54025477
They fixed the estimated chance as far as I remember. it's reliable now

>>54024696
Nigger the fucking tabletop uses dice as well where the fuck is the difference?
It's all RNG

>>54029940
hes talking about how the % value isnt accurate, having a 75 percent chance of hitting essentially equates to like a 1/3 chance to hit

>>54029954
but it is
For me at least, it never lied

>>54029997
thats odd, I have read extensive reviews bashing the false rng system so I never got the game

>>54030025
They fixed it after a couple months

So okay.

I want to support my undead Sylvanian army with human support incl. Darkenhof Hellbardiers and stuff like that.

I thought on using those guys:
http://www.fireforge-games.com/webstore/middle-age/medieval-russian/russians-infantry-details

Any opinion barinstorming ideas what should be added to make them feel more Sylvanian? (but not necessary more undead)

Is this the thread where I ask if anyone has tried out Zweihander RPG and what they thought of it?

>>54019322
Mark of Chaos doesn't have demigryphs.

>>54030331
They don't look very empire-y but whatever floats your stoat.

>make them more sylvanian
Rugged appearence, dragon symbols, purple and dark red colors(i seem to remember those were the colors of sylvania when it was an empire province) skull motifs, plumes. Mismatched gothic armor

Sylvania is a poor as shit backward shithole, do don't make anything too fancy

>>54024195
Squigs aren't plastic so they wouldn't come in the box anyway.

>>54020875
Bump!

>>54020875
>>54030703
Plaguebearer and Beast of Nurgle attacks are both daemonic and poison, aren't they?
So it should work just fine

>>54028308
You have to go back

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Do we know if there's a real historical period the Araby costumes line up with, or is it all just based on victorian arabian nights illustrations?

What would've you preferred?

a) WHFB setting dies and gets replaced by AoS, but rules remain pretty much in the old vein, with structured armies, infantry in formations, etc.

b) WHFB universe survives, but rules become AoS with point costs.

>>54031860
I'd prefer the universe surviving, then it'd be the same familiar world and we could just play using the old editions' rules

>>54028308
Not on those bases anon. We square here

>>54031860
I have nothing against AoS rules but i hate the setting, so the second.

AoS actually feels like old OLD warhammer rulewise, where you could play a satisfying game with nothing but a couple 10 men units, a hero and a monster/artillery piece

>>54031860
B, with the caveat that Be'lakor is annihilated, and Archaon dies begging for his life. The setting was better than the game.

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so for those who don't know total wars teasing rats now
https://www.totalwar.com/ritual/

word is missing for those that don't know it.
pic related the reward

My question is the skaven writings an oc or is it based upon a spell which we might have seen in wfrp or skaven armybook excerpts

>>54032119
YES-YES, MANTHIGNS! I'VE BEEN WAITING LONG-MUCH!

and the word is obviously STAB-STAB!

>>54032119
also, I fucking need that font for my PC

>>54032004
>AoS actually feels like old OLD warhammer rulewise, where you could play a satisfying game with nothing but a couple 10 men units, a hero and a monster/artillery piece
Dear shill show to all fantasy marines in OLD hammer.

>>54032166
its hard to show anything in OLDhammer because its hard to see anything in an explosion of LSD colors in the first place

>>54032166
I said rulewise, you shitmonger. I hate sigmarines and the lore as much as the next guy, but the rules are simple and let you play with relatively few models compared to newer warhammer edition

Here's your fucking (you)

>>54032220
>I hate sigmarines and the lore as much as the next guy, but I am still shilling

>>54032119
There is kidnapped citizens event in empire campaign.

>>54032247
its been there for ages, it ain't part of promotion

>>54032220
>and let you play with relatively few models compared to newer warhammer edition
I've just been looking back at the 5th ed army books recently, and they did crazy things like show you a 1000pt starter army that didn't cost an arm and a leg or require a hundred models to play. Try comparing that to the entry cost in 8th.

>>54032228
>>54032166
>make a good neutral point about warhammer and aos
>get called a shill
I'll bite again
You want a marine in old warhammer?

Chaos warriors

Here you go

>>54032290
there are people here who believe that anyone who does froth at the mouth at merest thought of AoS is a shill

>>54032269
I don't understand your point. You're just repeating what i said in more articulate way

>>54032290
>Chaos warriors
Where does they use Codex Astartes, chjapters organisation system, bolters and steel rain tactic?

>>54032332
>armor-clad superhumans with no distinguishable individual traits except maybe the color scheme

gee i dunno boss, all requirements check out

>>54032311
These people are everything tabletop gaming stands against. Small insignificant people that cannot bear the tought there are other people who enjoy another game they don't have anything to do with

>>54032439
you will be accused of shilling in 5...
4...

>>54032439
also, tabletop gaming doesn't stand. it SITS

>>54032439
A bad game is still a bad game

>>54032463
>Not playing tabletop games while standing up

what are you, a fat fuck?

>>54032255
Its been there since release, it happens to all factions I think
You can find Skavenblight on the campaign map, as well

>>54032474
if I wanted to play pretend games STANDING UP, I'd be LARPing

maybe you also play video games standing up?

>>54032420
>every super-human is space marine now
Nice logic.
>>54032439
>These people are everything tabletop gaming stands against.
>AoS-kiddies pretends to be part of tabletop gaming

>Small insignificant people that cannot bear the tought there are other people who enjoy another game they don't have anything to do with
Nice, now go back to your general.

>>54032470
And there are people who enjoy that bad game. Even if they're wrong, it doesn't mean you should go there and yell at their faces like a retard, since they're doing nothing but enjoying their stupid game.

If you walk down the street, and see a group of kinds playing tic-tac-toe on a wall, do you go there and insult them because they play with triangles and squares instead of circles and crosses?

>>54032498
>And there are people who enjoy that bad game
And they even have their own safe-space.

bashing/defending AoS is still talking about AoS, not WHFB
if you call someone a shill (no matter if they are) they won't just get up and leave, you change nothing. just ignore them.
and whether you are or aren't a shill, defending yourself will just reinforce your haters' confidence. don't do it.


tl;dr
could both sides just shut up and talk about WHFB?

for instance: how many rat ogres is enough?

>>54032524
>How many rat ogres is enough?

Depends

How many rat handlers you have?

the answer is always not enough asnyway

>>54032498
You know ... I was just baiting because of that post >>54032448

>>54032544
its T9A, to be honest, so I ain't got/need any handlers. Except as unit fillers.

>>54032568
Then the answer is

not enough

Another question:

what would you think of rat ogres looking very varied, in small batches? I have a few IoB ones, but now I got some Mantic Werewolves, who are much smaller, but would still make nice rat ogres, though in different style...

After all, ain't rat-ogres supposed to be wild experiments?

WFRP 2nd or 3rd edition, /tg/?
For a group who's never played either, and won't probably read any material before the game?

>>54032698
they can look varied since the creation process is in no form reliable to make any kind of "standard" rat ogre each time

>>54032964
2nd is one of the best rpgs ever made. 3rd is just a tester for edge of empire.

>>54033033
Ok anon, thanks.

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>>54029844
Some Forest Goblins are actually mutated, they have multiple eyes and hands. You see them as the Arachnarok crew.
Scuttlings are structured like those extreme Forest Goblins but wearing Night Goblin hoods.

>>54031860
B.
I can always play different rules, but WFB dead means no new lore or non-shit models.

I'd buy new Black Library or new kits. I bought Sisters Of Avelorn after all.

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>>54032166
Okay.

>>54033529
That's not even a boltgun, you fail at this.

>>54032004
Like WHFB 5th or 6th edition ? Why would you actually play the abortion that is AoS in the first place ?

>>54031860
B, I would still play using the KoW rules anyway but the minis would be good.

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>>54032166
>Dear shill show to all fantasy marines in OLD hammer.
Here.

>>54033626
Doesn't looks like a bolter

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>>54033707
This is how bolters were looking.

>>54033610
Because it's his job, just look how he cinetruct his b8 here>>54031860 both option implied acceptance of AoS

>>54029098
Some of the war of the roses/ late medieval kits for troops with the euro merc kits for crossbows/handgunners.

>>54033747
So? They are still two-handed weapon

>>54033749
>construct
phonefix

>>54033749
>both options implied clinging to WHFB
works both ways

>>54033602
Boltguns didn't exist yet, nor did 40k.

Although there was White Dwarf rules for SMs in Fantasy later. Keep in mind though Warhammer wasn't a proper wargame then, still more a hybrid wargame/RPG.

>>54033799
>g-g-g-guys space marines always were in WHzfB, please buy new sigmarines

>>54033797
It's a WHFB thread you retard.

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>>54033767
>A gun held in one hand is no longer a gun and the person holding it not a soldier

Next you say there more than one potato.

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>>54033707
Please anon, I don't even care about this argument but that's clearly a chaos space marine.

>>54033857
Except hre >>54033626 there is no place for second hand, it's smg.

>>54033833
of course. because what you imply, WAS NOT EVEN A POINT.

I was just wondering what people value more, setting or system. Not that you care, slav.

>>54033820
Even people who like AoS hate Sigmarines.

Even GW hates them. They're the Eric Trump of Games Workshop. They can't say they hate them, but they'll never be the REAL son.

Also, I'm the guy who coined that term.

>>54033891
Because its silly 80s Slambo-tier sculpting mate.

>>54033910
>Even people who like AoS hate Sigmarines
Says who..?
>but they'll never be the REAL son.
They already real, and was source for new 40k poster boys

>>54033908
Keeping the setting but switching the system attracts the mentally tumblr crowd that would shit things up, and it also would be dead as a game because who actually plays AoS that likes Fantasy.
Keeping the system while the lore is that much nonsense is also detrimental for the above reasons.
So if anything its good that GW killed Fantasy before raping it, as this way it doesn't suffer as much.

>>54033891
So unless a Space Marine has an Imperium-issue Bolter, he is no longer a Space Marine.

Also, reminder that the artist for that piece drew Ultramarines drinking beer from cans in the same era as well as a female mercenary wearing stolen power armor at a bar. While female Orc miniatures were still being sold for Fantasy in the "Orc Village" set.

So its not like anything in that era in either setting was concrete yet.

>>54033970
Well yeah, RT marines was very different from 40k marines

>>54033946
AoS general.

>New set revealed
>Has Sigmarines VS Khorne again
>Cue three threads of complaining and Sigmarine bashing

Its primarily from the undead faction players and the greenskin players who hate the Orkmarines, but its pretty rampant.

>>54033970
>Ultramarines drinking beer
They do that in Dark Imperium novel.

>>54033985
Exactly.

That image is RT era.

The Chaos Space Marine of that era showed up on the cover of a Fantasy novel.

Which is a direct refute to the guy sperging out over some people not hating AoS rules even if they do hate the lore and models by implying they like Sigmarines.

>>54033991
>AoS general
Well then you should return to your home.
But you know what? Let's go together
>>54028845
>>54023864
>>54023258
>>54023010
>>54020071
Wow, looks like you guys love them

>>54034010
>The Chaos Space Marine of that era showed up on the cover of a Fantasy novel
Where?

>>54034027
Wait for GW to release more Sigmarines, then you tell me how popular they are.

>>54034059
Popular enough to demand more releases.

>>54034010
>hating 8+ lore
>not hating 8+ rules

>>54034200
I'd hate AoS even if it had Legions of Middle-Earth rules.

>>54034042
Read the thread before posting.

So has anyone ripped the TWW audio files yet? I want the Night Gobbo "What dew YEW wan'?!" as a cellphone text sound.

>>54034072
Nah, GW had the sculpts done well in advance. Like Zack Snyder's contract, you have to sit and burn your mistake.

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>>54016827
>and had a lot of trouble finding enough players
>for WFRP

>>54034200
I hate wargame rules in general, I tolerated the WFB rules because the lore is so amazing.

AoS rules are still just a hurdle. The problem is instead of rich delicious lore, the reward is a festering pile of gold flaked shit after the hurdle.

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LOOKIT DIS FLAG, POINTY 'EADZ! MUH FLAG SHINIER DAN YOURZ!

WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOU' IT?

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>>54034388
>tfw I decided to charge a horde of night goblins into high elf spearmen horde
That was a bad idea.

>>54032004

It really doesn't, the only thing they have in common is that they both used less figures, the difference between playing Age of Smeg and 3rd edition Fantasy is like playing two different games.

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>>54032004
>AoS
>satisfying game

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>>54034483
>tfw fail animosity and horde of night goblins charges high elf spearmen deathstar
I did win the game though

>>54032490
>>54032255
>>54032247
dwarves have a tech tree point called rat poison and I believe dwarves make actual reference to rat men at some points. The orks say they feel some strange horned good staring at them from morslieb. And every negative growth thing seems to allude to skaven.

>>54034932
>tfw charge high elf spear block with ogre bus

It actually worked.

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>>54033481
That is fascinating, I had never known that. Maybe it's something to do with allowing themselves to get bitten so much?

I'll admit I enjoy Forest Goblins most for the not!Native American themes though. I wish I found them more useful even in Total Warhammer.

>>54036104
GW added them late and at a time when they had already decided Black Orcs and Night Goblins are the posterboys, so they got little to no lore.
They're not even evil really. Their only enemy is the Empire, but only when it presses into their forest. Otherwise they just kill Beastmen and leave everyone else alone.

They just get drawn into WAAAGHs since other greenskins make empty promises of riches or revenge against Empire loggers.

>>54036104
I don't recall others than the shaman on the arachnarok and maybe the spider rider champion having mutations

You could use night/normie goblins as forest goblins with some conversion?
I put the shaman from the Arachnarok kit onto a 20mm base myself

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>>54030386

>>54006423
>want to play Bretonia
>don't want to pay OOP prices
What are my options anons?

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>>54033910
I think the main problem with them is that they were made for the sake of looking cool - as a model, as a concept - and being marketable. But they have almost nothing actually cool behind them because they were made so shallowly - it's not like how GW made a bunch of factions for WFB and 40k, and then the Empire and Space Marines ended up being the posterboys as things developed naturally. You can't force people to like something, and it feels artificial when you're just going through a checkbox of likeable traits with no flaws or character.

>>54036211
there's plenty quit your whining
>he wants to play not!French
oh, my apologies, whining is in-character for ya

>>54033970
>Ultramarines drinking beer

Anon, we know that was just how they drew progenium glands being stored. It wasn't a beer can.

reminder:
Goblins are the most powerful race in the world

>>54036256
>and then the Empire and Space Marines ended up being the posterboys as things developed naturally. You can't force people to like something, and it feels artificial when you're just going through a checkbox of likeable traits with no flaws or character.
Except people like sigmarines, unlike empire

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>>54036720
>Except people like sigmarines, unlike empire

>>54036256
Look at Von Carsteins though.

Its not that Mannfred outsold Neferata, its that you had an author's pet faction.

GW writing is as bad about posterboy factions as it is for "good is dumb".

Forest Goblins were introduced very late, by which point we already had a trimming of characters until you only had a posterboy (Grimgor, Skarsnik) representing the posterboys (Black Orcs, Night Goblins) plus the named wizard (Wurrzag) and the oldhammer holdover (Azhag).

Azhag would never get a book, since he's not the star of the faction.

>>54036211
TMS Miniatures, in the OP.

Anybody ever read a passage like the following in Skaven lore?

>WHEN OUR RIVALS TREMBLE, {Insert something else} THEIR KIN

Might also include "Missing" in the section between "tremble" and "kin."

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>>54037069
Poor azhag

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>>54023290
Can I contact you? Email? I'd like to join your WFRP group..

Fresh out the oven.

>>54037431
>>54037431
>>54037431

If you guys are starting a WFRP game drop the e-mail/discord and we'll put it in the OP.

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>>54037069
>when at one point you were one of the major named Orc Warbosses, eventually regulated to side-character status, and now in Total Warhammer you're the guy that gets fucked over in order to allow Grimgor or Azhag to form an Orc empire

I actually like confederating the Red Fangs just so I can get Rotgut - he has a unique model, and otherwise he's an alright lord. Since I keep going out of my way to save him from death, he ends up being pretty well leveled.

>>54037530
I just love that picture!
Makes me kinda want to start a Dwarven Hold occupying-theme Orc Army.

>>54037085
Thanks anon

>>54033626
Realm of Chaos books were for 40k too.

>>54037069
Forest goblins are much older than Grimgor. I don't feel like checking the 3rd edition books, but they were in the 4th edition already at least.