/awg/ - Alternative Wargames General

>>53987981
What are you guys working on rn?

>>53987981
Where are these guys from?

>>53988141
https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/product_info.php?products_id=140

A company called Black Scorpion Miniatures, they've got some pretty nice miniatures.

>>53988141

black scorpion miniatures. They also do rather good wild west models

Bumping for Kings Of War - upcoming global campaign to help shape the fluff and game. I like this game more the more I play it. Loads of fun, lots of freedom for modeling, and most of the fun people came over when the Sundering happened in 2015.

Give it a look!

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More warlord sprue sale stuff. 10 celts with some orc equipment, which gonna be a militia/barbarian kind of infantry for DR. The sprue is pretty good, except for some weird poses you have to watch out for.

>>53988652
Indeed got my campaign book pre-ordered. So far I've made five different awesome army's/ 5 different factions.

>>53988043
Converted a Foundry vampire hunter to a more generic postapoc flamethrower wielding chick, started a Reaper knight, not much desu.

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>>53988043
Today was /awg/ heaven

>2 games of heavy gear
>demo game of full thrust has my mate pricing up a fleet before turn 2 is over

And I discovered Brigade's amazing Soviet fleet, and now I want a 3rd force before my second has even arrived.

I also wrote a battle report but all the photos ended up overexposed or out of focus:

https://ideaswithoutend.wordpress.com/2017/06/24/heavy-gear-blitz-battle-report-169tv-btrt-vs-cncs/

>smug ace pilot and her elite team take loudmouth soldier and her forces apart in mock battle

>>53988043
Missed the post before posting this >>53989142 . Next stop will be some heros and 2 units of infantry and 1 elite infantry , made from roman vets and a hoplite command sprue. This will make it 3x10 units of infantry, 1x6 elite , 3-4heros and a Dragon (reaper bones). I'm thinking about adding a chariot, cav or artillery. The 'fluff' is a temple/cave guard for the dragon. I also have to finish a chaos troll for a nurgle warband for aos hinterlands.
End of blog.

>>53989166
You are going to run five different armies for the campaign? O_o

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>>53988043

Just finished building some dudes for This is Not a Test.

Basically one of the factions, Caravanners, can take units from other factions lists. It's to represent connections they've gained through trading and such.

The first one, who's by far the simplest, is an Alpha Mutant who I decided to make a Fallout-esque Ghoul. When I noticed that one of the wargames factory zombie heads had sunglasses I decided they were too characterful not to use other than that he's just a WGF Apocalypse survivor with swapped out guns.

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>>53990282

Second is a Peacekeeper Warden, basically the closest thing the wasteland has to law.

Same torso as the first guy but with some legs from Mantic Games Enforcer Pathfinders and weapons from Warlord Games Apocalypse Z Spec Ops. The head is also Project Z but from the Bikers Leader sprue.

>>53988043
Painting some Relic Knights and Warzone Resurrection stuff last night. Beta testing of RK2e is really shaping up, Sodapop basically rewrote the game and it plays so much better, still niggling issues here and there but so long as they keep listening to feedback(and the other testers keep their heads out of their arses) we're gonna have a pretty slick anime based skirmish game at the end of it. Gamma.con approaches soon, so I'm going to get onto prodos about sending some demo kits for give-aways to participants that come to my table and starter kits to sell as well(maybe, might not be able to get the funds ready in time) start building some terrain for a new scenario.

Gonna hopefully be a good time all round.

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>>53990318

Third is a Tribal and by far the most involved kitbash of the bunch. Her legs, midriff, and her upper torso are from three separate minis and each had to be cut to shape to fit.

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>>53990369

She also has a railroad sign for a shield.

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>>53990381

Last one is actually a guy I built ages ago when I was thinking about making a raider warband for TNT but never finished them.

Mostly Warlord Games Woodland Indians and WGF Apocalypse Survivor bits.

Hoping to have them painted tomorrow, doubt I'll post pics as I'm a pretty shitty painter.

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>>53990425
This guy rules

Might as well post one of the salvageable photos from >>53989317

>>53988043
I've been working on my fantasy skirmish game and should have a playable "alpha" version of the game to post by the end of next week, along with some battle reports to give an idea of how it plays.

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>>53987981
Is Advanced Squad Leader a fun game?

>>53991041
Nice. I have an alpha locked away on an old computer, but had some interest in it last time I posted in here. I'll keep an eye out for yours if you decide to share it.

>>53989976
No I've made 5 different army's for Kings Of War
Basilea (Good)
Dwarves (Good)
Night Stalkers (Evil)
Orcs (Evil)
Twilight Kin (Evil)

All 2000 Point.

>>53991758
Nice - which are you using for the campaign? I am going to use The Herd, with leaning towards Good affiliation.

>>53988043
Dale captain.

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I asked in /hist/ but I may as well throw it out here as well.

Has anyone played or interested in the new Congo game from Tomahawk? Foundry is making the models and it looks like quite a fun little skirmish game.

Must be a sign of me getting older because I never used to be interested in much of this style of stuff.

>>53988043
I put primer on my new barbarian for Frostgrave, but otherwise today I was busy playing Armada and Conflict of Heroes. Tuesday is /awg/ all day

>>53988043
Star Wars themed 8th edition 40k with some home rules for house rules for force powers and vehicles.

>>53991052
no

>>53992732
why not,

Quick question for /awg/. Anyone know why people hate Knight Models. I play the game and like it but people seem to dislike the company.

>>53992753

I think it's partly that they had another game going just before they got the licence to do the Batman game they're doing now - but they dropped that other game to do the Batman game. Jimmies were rustled.

>>53992753
I haven't really picked up on any strong sentiments either way, but I've heard that their casting quality does vary a little and there was that thing where they had a DC miniatures game planned that was dropped almost as soon as they teased the first minis or something.
There was a major fuckup with the licenses or something.

Now they are doing a Harry Potter game I think.

>>53992836
Do you mean the Marvel game? I know the license for that was pulled after a few releases.

>>53992936
Yeah right sorry.
Marvel, not DC.

They also used to do Star Wars minis back in the day.
Could have made a pretty penny if they still had been doing that while EpVII was hyped up.

>>53990369
Where did you get the torso from? Purely for research purposes of course.

Also I really like what you did with the spears. They actually look like they are cobbled together rather than just being standard historical spears.

>>53992936
That's right. I am betting that they realized that they didn't want to pay premium for the Marvel license, and decided to double down with universal studios to make the Harry Potter game and DC Universe game among others.

>>53993601

That's the problem with licensed games. Licence fees can get pretty nasty.

>>53992218
Basilea or Dwarves if I can, certainly not siding with the Abyssal s.

Who here hype for the new heavy gear blitz kickstarter?

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Brigade Models have added some new 6mm SF stuff - 6mm lizard cav and, more importantly, new 6mm human infantry and cavalry to replace the generic infantry in one of their ranges. Yeah, they're south africans, but cavalry are something I'm always glad to see on the table.

http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/Blog/2017/06/xenosaur/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeDk6ZeGNnU

>>53990282
>>53990318
>>53990369
>>53990425
Saw them in the FB group - they are fucking fantastic, the tribal girl is easily my most favourite and will probably steal some ideas from you.

>>53994685
Moderately hype.

I'd probably need to offload my CEF and Caprice before buying into any new factions but PRDF and Utopia are extremely my shit. PRDF have the cool head-fin Appleseed/Patlabor look going on and Utopia are straight out of Neo-Geo arcade game bosses/slightly shit 80s sci-fi OVAs.

>>53995483
Those South Africans look boss as hell, and make me want to get back into my 1930s Crimson Skies/Valkyria Chronicles inspired Imagi-Nations project, with impractical as hell dieselpunk planes and Wanzer-style mechs (mostly using Heavy Gear models) fighting giant land fortresses and the infantry hordes of the villainous Turk.

But at the same time I want to get a Brigade Neo-Soviet fleet for my Full Thrust campaign setting to use as the New Earth Fleet (who have cool ships with cool new guns but are led by a bunch of warlike assholes compared to the old fleet who remember how Earth was nearly destroyed last time mankind pissed off an alien empire).

How out of place would 1/55 stuff (e.g. civilian cars) look in "Heroic 28" scale?

>>53990282
Radical.

Do you think their would be enough interest in a wargame built around a modern American civil war with squad based combat in 15mm?

I wanted like 4 or 5 main factions with room for smaller groups for people to flavor themselves accordingly with maybe 10 to 30 dudes tops. Fire team level combat (so groups of 3-6 dudes running around as a unit) with a range finder instead of a tape measure ala Xwing.

>>53995928
>But at the same time I want to get a Brigade Neo-Soviet fleet
They're pretty spaceboats, but I don't think I'd be able to resist going full meme and painting them with adidas stripes.

The problem I have with Brigade's 6mm ground miniatures is that there's too much hover & grav. The new Hammer's Slammers ones look great, yeah, but the rest just make me wish they'd put fucking tracks or wheels on things. Fortunately, the Neo-Soviets don't do that, but there's so many other models that could be good if they had more ground contact, Mercs for instance.

>>53996204

First you gotta think of the title, IMHO, tbqh.

>Second American Civil War?
>American Civil War: Round Two?
>ACW2: Electric Boogaloo?
>ACW2: The South Has Risen Up Again?
>ACW2: The Rise of Trump?

C'mon - help me here.

Just pick the rules, and make something to the tune of Very British Civil War only slightly slanted to the modern times.

>>53996262
>ACW2: Electric Boogaloo
I vote to this.

>>53988652
What's the setup for the campaign?

>>53996262
>>53996269
I was thinking for something ultra cliche: Divided We Stand: the Second American Civil War.

Factions would be the

Republic of California (Chinese backed modern 1st world military with low training and no partisan support)

Texas (modern military reliant heavily on partisan support)

Constitutional America (Pretty much all Red states except Texas/Oklahoma)

The United States (New England area, most elite army with best gadgets in upgrades due to it being the America every other country broke off from)

The minor factions would be in disputed areas around the borders like Cascadia wanting to be separate from California and be it's libertarian paradise, the Mormon enclaves of Utah, La Raza settlers in the SW, I want to leave this vague for people to make up their own factions but will give rules for religious zealots in case you want to play Muslim extremists or for gangs in case you want to play the Hells Angels or Crips trying to shirk off city control while the government is weak.


Main mechanics would be a 5 step range finder for shooting. Certain weapons (shotguns, smgs) would do more damage within a certain range but all guns can shoot out to 5. Shooting *similar* to 40k. Basic morale system. Vehicle rule. Mission goals depend on faction types going against each other.

Mostly I just want a fast, skirmish game set in the modern era with room for "your guys".

I like VBCW and will probably steal a lot from it.

>>53996349
But this is all just me thinking "wow I don't like anything right now on the market" and this was my conclusion.

I literally just thought of it while taking a bath

>>53996256
I agree entirely, which is why I went alt history dieselpunk for my 6mm project. Just go on GHQ and buy a shitload of random early war tanks and armoured cars from nations like Italy and France, most of which wouldn't look out of place in Valkyria Chronicles/Full Metal Alchemist/your favourite weeb dieselpunk thing.

GZG have tracked and wheeled 6mm ground stuff that's good, but they also are allergic to photographing miniatures.

>>53996262

ACW2: STONEWALL *THIS*

>>53996417
>ACW2: STONEWALL *THIS*

Son, I have a couple of folks here that say they're from the 2nd 'Stonewall' Brigade and would like to have a 'word' with ya.
Got a minute?

>>53996349
That's SOCIALIST Republic of California, son, and you've forgotten all about SJW's too. (time for them to show us that 'Warrior' part of theirs)

I'm looking for historical figures to put on my Hippogryph. Anyone have any ideas?
I'm looking mainly for the big ones like Wagglin' Willy, Sal Ah Din, Richard the Lionheart and stuff like that.

>>53996547
It wouldn't be named that way in this setting. It would just be Republic of California and pretty much just all of the USA 50 miles from the Pacific ocean.

The SJW's and Antifa and Oathkeepers and stuff would fall under different variations of partisan groups and can be taken as their own army, or part of a government army if they have overlap in keywords. Like the Hells Angels won't fight for anybody and Antifa mobs won't be fighting with
Conservative governments.

Like the "patriot militia" subfaction is better armed, better at direct combat, and has better morale than "red horde" units but the "red horde" units can place bombs in buildings and is cheaper on a model to model basis. The way I had it worked out is the game would operate with fireteams being the unit type you control mostly so units have health of about 3-6 so red hordes would be wounded easier but their is more health, so countering them would require you to sit down and law out a lot of fire.

California's gimmick would be Chinese funded equipment and training and rely heavily on horde tactics and non-mechanized infantry. Maybe they can take Antifa guys as meat shields.

Texas would be ultra mobile moderate infantry. Can take Militiamen units.

USA would be like Seal Team Six tier.

Constitutional America would be the "average" faction.


Missions would fall under a blanket of Symmetrical Armies, Asymmetrical Fighting, and Street Fighting.

Symmetrical Armies would have higher point values, would involve more vehicles and have more abstract victory conditions that include gathering intelligence or destroying a high value target or recapturing a base.

Asymmetrical Fighting would be terrorists or partisan fighters against state forces. Mostly ambush, bomb defusal, hostage situations, gang crackdowns etc.

Street Fighting would be civilian fighting. Antifa bombing a church? Muslims kidnapping a politician? III%ers playing army guy?

>>53993554

The torso is from Warlord Games Project Z Bikers, the leader sprue specifically.

Well, the top half is from their, the midriff is from the female zombie sprue. Originally I was just going to use the whole zombie torso but then I noticed how, erm, "well equipped" the biker was and decided to use that instead.

I guess tribal girls drink a lot of milk.

>>53995654

Yeah she's my favourite too, although I really like the Warden.

And feel free to copy what you like. The whole reason I post stuff is to show what you can achieve kitbashing. As someone who's not the best painter in the world it's my prefered method of making my stuff stand out.

>>53996066

Exactly what I said when I saw the zombie head with sunglasses. I'm very tempted to go full 80's when I paint him all white with a pink shirt maybe?

>>53996062
Who the fuck is doing stuff in that weirdo scale? Only on the market references were to some diecast Disney Cars stuff.

>>53997141
Hotwheels.

>>53987981
I've recently fallen in love with Reaper's wargaming system. Card based initiative is cool and I already have tons of ideas how to expand this and d10 is best dice for skirmish sized games. Also, degrading stats are something every game should have.

>>53997165
Yo man, I love it too. Wish I could get the books for a normal price in Europe along with the starters.

>>53991052
You'll get more traction on this question in /hwg/

>>53996062
Tremendously. That would be more in scale with 20mm.

>>53998063
>1/55 would be more in scale with 1/76 rather than 1/56
Nigga, what

>>53998160
28mm heroic is closer to 1/35, especially 40k

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>>53998235
>28mm heroic is closer to 1/35
Have you ever seen 1/35 figures?

>>53998373
https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Scale_Model_Kits_for_40K
For using real world vehicles in 40k. Mini scales aren't consistent with model scales. The 1/55 scale cars I saw looked too small even for 1/100 scale Halo.

>>53998433
Are you trolling or just retarded? A fucking 1:35 Sherman is bigger than a Baneblade. What everyone lieks to forget is that there are fucking 3mm thick bases under the figures, and they are in outstretched poses. And your comment on Halo...Jesus Christ lad, you're high, or as I mentioned, retarded.

>>53992539
this seems like a weird setting for a skirmish game . Tomahawk makes some good games though

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>>53998585
> Weird and wacky native tribes
> European colonial forces
> Private mercs
> Intrepid explorers
> Heart-of-Darkness style cult leaders

Nah man, Darkest Africa is a great setting for skirmish.

>>53998373
I think he meant 32mm.
Wargaming miniatures tend to be on the large side, and 28mm ""Heroic"" especially.

>>53998714
...and 32mm figures are still nowhere near 1:35, which tends to be called "54mm".

>>53998734
Obviously.
Still, looking at them, those 1:55 seem way too small for 28mm, heroic or not.

>>53998734
Anon may be confusing Xmm with 1:X, I dunno.

>>53994685
I'm on the fence. PRDF are my jam, but the front and side skirt armor being separate parts that you glue to the legs sounds like an absolute pain in the ass.

>>53988043
Getting the ton of ships I have for Dystopian Wars painted before the KS stuff arrives. Because I'm a cuck of transcendantal order.

>>53997165
Yeah, I love their system.

Want to try CAV sometime, but their selection of models is pretty limited. Like there's factions that are missing half the mechs available to them.

>>53998634

Yeah it looks like a really interesting game. My 2 big gripes are:

1) I hate games that use excessive amounts of peripherals like this one does, we have cards, tokens, measuring sticks... why? Why not just use inches and a few special dice instead?

2) I would have liked them to have national factions instead of lumping all the 'white men' into one group.

>>54002026
There's plenty of other rules anon. I think there's a set in hwg's trove that solves your problems, it's called Heart of Africa or something, looked good when I skimmed through it.

While on the hunt for Full Thrust resources I found this, which appeals to the /m/ browser in me:

http://www.star-ranger.com/Stuff/SBtoFT.htm

Pretty old rules for statting Yamato ships in Full Thrust. Enjoy.

>>54002026
Agree, I'm a big fan of playing ospreys TheMenWhoWouldBeKings though.

What companies do good underwater minis? I'm looking to do an underwater themed demon army and was looking for ideas.

Same goes for old fashioned diver helmets and maybe harpoons or cannons. Was thinking of going full corrosion on the metal as well as crab claws and seahorse colour schemes.

>>54004951
Deep Wars' entire schtick is basically that.

Also check the one underwater faction from Wrath of Kings (Hadross I think?)

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>>54004951
http://www.recreationalconflict.com/

Recreational Conflict's Lead Bones has Big Daddies from Bioshock in 15 and 28mm.

They look pretty good.

>>54004951
>>54004994
>Deep Wars
seconding this.
Antimatter also have another game called Shadow Sea that you can use for that.

Reaper has a lot of miniatures like that too.

As for the diver helmets and harpoons, Meridian miniatures used to have a system of 28mm troopers with all kinds of different heads, but I think he sold the rights for most of the alternate heads to another company. Forgot their name, but should be easy enough to find.

I've been wondering, how common are actual WARgames (I consider 40k and the like to be BATTLEgames) where the conflict happes on a bigger scale. I'm looking for something like that game where you fight for some part of africa but without the autistic-tier bookkeeping, maybe something that you can play from start to finish in about 8 hours. Have you guys heard of anything like it?

>reading star-ranger.com
>Full Thrust Continuum Edition

This is pretty damn comprehensive for a fan supplement, I am impressed. Combines all the rules from More Thrust, the Fleet Books and the beta rules GZG put out on star-ranger, adds a shitload more stuff (rapid-fire short range lasers, long range precision lasers, tractor beams, gravity guns, various new missiles and fighters, gunboats, turreted and reconfigurable firing arcs, rules for different styles of hangar deck affecting your fighters, and most importantly for weebs like me actual functional rules for axial mega-weapons that aren't the FT 2e Nova Cannon/More Thrust Legally Distinct Wave Motion Gun.)

Plus is has a "Tech Level" chapter where you can total up all the different upgrades your fleet uses and work out a rough estimate of how advanced they are.

I'm in love.

>>54005868
Simulating an entire war (outside of anomalies like the Anglo-Zanzibar war) is generally reserved for hex and chit because on the scale required, miniatures are wholly unrepresentative.

>>54005868
http://www.gmtgames.com/

These guys have you sorted.

http://www.gmtgames.com/p-65-pax-romana-2nd-edition.aspx

How about managing the whole Roman Empire and delenda-ing Cartago?

>>53994685
>their first kickstarter was supposed to make enough money so that they wouldn't need another.
The absolute state of DP9. Jesus Christ.

Has anyone tried Wrath of Kings? The minis look pretty nice but I've literally never heard anyone talk about it.

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>>53987981

Fortan Chandler reporting in with my sad archive of Osprey Books

Adventure, Open Book, Myths and Original War Games


I'm still looking for Steam Punk the Old West and Elf
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/08hq9c7x4clme/Documents

Played my first game of ASoBaH yesterday. It was pretty fun, and I ended up winning despite my weird warband setup. In almost every other wargame I've played, I've leaned towards lower numbers of higher-cost models, and that "elite strike team" setup has never worked as well as it did last night.

>>54005937
Indeed, I know minis would be out of the question, hence why I'm asking for something a bit more abstract but also on a bigger scale. Hex and chit is fine on my book.

>>54005975
Thanks a lot, checking right now.

>>54006955
I liked The Andean Abyss from the COIN series. Sounds like it might be what you're looking for. Its 1990s columbia.

I think they did one on the 30 years war that looked neat too.

Check the /hwg/ and /bgg/ if you haven't, they'll have ideas and opinions too.

>>54006093
Um, that wasn't even remotely the intention of the first KS. They've seen saying since that one they were gonna do another to get more plastics made. Itxs been known for over a year we'd get a second one to do PRDF and NuCoal plastics. Not aure where you're getting your info from on that.

>>54006232
Rules are pretty damn solid. Army builsing takes a unique twist, combat ia fairly straight forward and the motivations thing is a nice touch.

My only gripe is that it can be awful symbol heavy and most of them do the same thing.

>>54004504

Same, anything by Daniel Mersey.

I might just pick up some of Foundry's models and use them for that.

>>53992753
I came into this thread to ask about Batman actually. Would here be the best place to post or would it be better to make a dedicated thread?

>>54010886
It'd fit here. Honestly, the only negativity I've ever heard about the Batman game was the price per model.

>>53992753
System is good but firm is known to be shit.
Added spider-man to their system just to not release anything except the initial.
Announcing 6 month later marvel with another release, push out some releases for 5 months. But very much in beta shape.
Then just stop releasing shit, but saying it it isn't canceled. 2 month release DC eith Marvel rule and a month later a pdf updating spidey and marvel.
Then about 3 weeks later throw Marvel and spidey out of the shop overnight.
Announced Harry Potter

Another points:
-Badly translated books
-Requires books to play, pushed out frequently
-official social platform bans freely
-bad communication

Personal nitpicks:
-Get Equiptment and spoiler for crews, never release them (freeze, origanized, Grodd,.....)
-Unfished crews but lets release our 9th batman/joker/harley.
-Tournament prize and Pre-order only rules
-Horrible store support
-no american store support
-powercreep in dc, making marvel even harder to play

>>54010886
Honestly I have played the system since the PDF days and altjough I have >>54012432 complaints I like the system.
Two things I haven't mention is price and quality.
Price are pretty high and even gotten higher, luckily most crews run with between 6-9.
Sculpts are normally top-notch, there are some outliners (non-2 player set katana) but most are very nice looking.
Assembly is ok, just 2-4 models are a bitch (the other katana)
Casting used to have a some severe case of failure but they have gotten better with that, they also send out replacements but it just took a while.

Last point all metal

>>54012432
>>54012517

Those complaints are pretty valid though, there's a lot of complaints I've seen, especially on the Facebook group, that are completely retarded. Store support isn't an issue for me locally (in Aus we have a few good stores) it's shitty suppliers instead (which fuck over my local for a few games, another of which is Malifaux). The books I disagree with a little bit as well, because they're supplements mainly and aren't entirely essential to play, and it's only really once a year they release a book.

Swamp Thing, Lobo, speedsters, Superman and now Amazons have all been used as examples of crying the sky is falling, they're all shifting the balance and unbalancing the Batman game, which is honestly bullshit. It's more of an argument that they want more of the same thug with baseball bat number 39, which just leads to redundancy and stagnation. The way KM have done the really powerful guys I find great, because the system is stacked against taking Superman and Batman as your crew for example, and in the objective game they're on a major back foot from the get go, which only gets worse as they take damage

>Manlet Marines
>bin your Marinelets
>Chadmarines
>cucks
>apologise to nuGW, pre-order at full RRP today!

/awg/ you are my island of peace.

>>54012869
Yeah supplier is localy based (and should't be generalized) but in my area a direct-buy store is stopping too as the communication and pricing was shit.
Balancing I wouldn't say is an issue in the batman game, for exactly the reason your mentioned.
Only complaints is that a single character may experience powercreep with new releases (deadshot, nightwing, harley) but that are some sole cases.

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One Rad Zombie finished.

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>>54014194

>>54014207
If this isn't the next OP, I'm severely disappointed.

>>54014194
That's fucking great

Anyone got a good site for getting ringbound print outs of PDFs? I'd like to have physical copies of all these pdf-only rulebooks I keep acquiring :/

>>54014667

I just print my stuff off at work.

Don't you die on me.

>>54010886
Any questions?
I have 6 different crews and played against most crews (except Lexcorp)

>>54014194
Truly radical.

Here's a question to keep things moving.

In games with freeform unit design and army composition, do you tend to enjoy trying to justify every decision you make with fluff and spending time agonising over every design to make sure it feels like unified faction?

I've been going nuts over Full Thrust of late and a lot of the fun is trying to come up with ship designs that feel both viable and interesting choices in-game and also like they're all part of a unified faction (rather than just "here's a gimmick repeated in three different sizes" or "here's a bunch of random units that synergise well but might as well be from different forces")

So for example my human faction is clearly split across model ranges as "pre-2142" and "post-2143" ship designs (2142-3 being the dates of the first war with a newly-discovered alien race whose technology and tactics meant current ship designs were not very useful)

Pre-42 ships have very basic weapons, generally in groups of small turrets and axial mounts, supported by torpedo launchers. The only "special" weapon is a laser cannon-armed ambush frigate that in-setting is described as not particularly good but cheap to build and good enough when there's an invasion fleet at your door.

Post-43 ships are the result of a large number of shipyards all vying for funding and a boom in new weapon designs based on alien technology, and so are mostly over-engineered but good at what they do.

With one exception. The Osiris. Nobody is quite sure how the Osiris won its funding bid because it's a bit shit. It's an AEGIS destroyer built to fight a race that doesn't use torpedoes or fighter craft in any great numbers that's supposed to simultaneously be a patrol leader, long-range artillery support ship and point defence bunker.

Captains claim the only ship the Osiris has any kind of tactical synergy with is a four-year-old battleship that was rolled out just as the invading aliens were proving that ships like it were useless.

>>54021455
(cont.) I know a lot of Battletech players like the narrative aspect of having loads of different unit types and putting your faction loyalty ahead of taking actually good units (and thus the challenge of working out how exactly your faction won the battles it did in the fluff when its standard mechs might be fucking garbage).

And so I'm happy to design, buy and paint "trap" units like the Osiris because I'm more interested in the fiction of My Dudes than simply playing a numbers game and optimising my fleet.

Could Antares players post their minis?

>>54012869

Oh you can crossplay DC superhero minis and the batman game? Thought they were mostly separate with only a few crossovers.

Can anyone recommend a good pulp skirmish game? I saw Congo mentioned ITT but it seems too historical for my preferences. I want to fight Boxer rebels who are secretly members of a secret triad society led by Fu Manchu, and so on.

>>54022213
I've heard good things about:

In Her Majesty's Name, A Fistful of Kung Fu, Pulp Alley, 7TV

Ganesha have Flying Lead they market as suitable for pulp action, but this seems to be reliant on a sourcebook that isn't actually available so your mileage may vary.

>>54022280
Cool, cool. I'll check those out, thanks! Probably starting with IHMN and Pulp Alley, the other titles seem to imply a focus not quite what I'm looking for.

>>54022213
In her majesty's name would probably fit best.
Otherwise something I just found 7TV flif you really wanna be TV.
>>54021831
It honestly depends.
16 out of the 24 heroic dc models can be fielded in batman.
21 outt of the 31 evil dc models can be fielded in Batman, but it doesn't really mean that one can buy the same models and field them in both games (except for lexcorp to a lesser extend and amazons). In batman having goons is still very much required, and unlike the batman game having just deathstroke account for 50% of your list is not true for dc as he is only just 12% in dc.

>>54022280
>>54022774
After checking these out a bit: does IHMN have good rules for stuff like gorillas and evil Chinamen? I really like Bob Murch's figures, if that helps you get an idea of the tone. I noticed neither of you mentioned his own ruleset, Rugged Adventures; I guess it's not great?

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>>53989142
I got the Wargames Factory modern military and I've got these pieces here which idk what they're for. Any idea?

I know the middle pieces are NVG and I think the brick is a C4 brick but idk about the rest

>>54020302
Not really any specific questions, more just gauging interest to discuss the game. I'm fairly active in my Batman gaming, just want somewhere else to discuss it outside of the cancer that is ACL

>>54023963

I'd definitely be interested in discussing it (I'm a new anon). I quite like the game personally.

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Alright, I need a miniature for this shit.
Scale about the usual 28mm (heroic).
Help me out here, /awg/.

>>54024752
One of the Rackham splinters is making a game with shirtless barbarian elves, but, Christ, what was their name again...? The game is Dragon- or Draken- something?

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Has anyone here played nemesis? I haven't heard anything about this game but I'm about to drop some dosh on the orphan models. they look really cool

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>>54024752
>>54025245
I finally remembered, it's called Drakerys. Here's a picture I stole off their website.

>>54014667
>>54017253

Same I just use the laser printer at the university and then the place next door binds them.

If you go into the local town I bet there will be a stationary shop that does a binding service cheap.

>>54022774

What evil characters can't be run in batman?

>>54024265

General is up now, hopefully the thread doesn't die too quickly

>>53987981
Where might I find cool looking Birdmen that aren't chaos induced or anything like that

>>54023771
The pieces on the right might be pieces of an rocket launcher or something.

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Alright, guy from up the thread further. Whipped this up real quick.

I also need help thinking of mechanics (not specifics but like "moves faster") to differentiate Dixie, New England, and Caracola from the other factions. These were places that I thought wouldn't go along with other factions but weren't really military powers or true extremists so nothing comes to my head.

I'm planning to steal some ideas from Flames of War regarding basing and stuff. I like the idea of platoon level of combat a lot more.

>>54026689
Darkseid, Zod and his mates, Lex in his war-armor, Black Adam, 2 of the Parademon, Sinestro and Domsday

>>54006340
Thanks, was looking for Rouge Stars to make a team against my friend- so I now don't need to wait and borrow his book.

>>54025880
Nice! Thanks, kind anon!

>>54028851
There's a faction of Tengu in Bushido.

>spend 55 bongs on a single space boat model from shapeways

what am I doing

>>54030071
I like it. Can't really help on tactics, but what's the reasoning behind making New England separate to the USA? Is it just in case people want to play the region but not the government? Or are they taking on Canadian support?

I guess Dixie could have a high morale and slightly higher-than average militia training, New England could have Canadian/British equipment, and Caracola could have some quantity of boat/amphibious capability?

>>54030071
just a stupid fluff nitpick, cascadia should include the rest of Oregon and Washington as well as northern California. the area you have blocked out has less than 4 million people living in it. for reference that is approximately the population of Los Angeles. If anything Idaho and Montana shouldn't be in it and it could be a weird combination of a tech/hippy faction

>>54034021

Well let's not get too hasty, what ship was it?

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>>54037105
This.

I plan to use it as a "final boss" for a campaign in Full Thrust Continuum, stats something like:

63 Hull, Lv2 Advanced Shields, Thrust Rating 2 Advanced Drives

5 Advanced Fire Control, 4 PDS

1 Fighter Bay (Multirole - Plasma/Pulse/Interceptor)

3x Phaser 3, 4x Phaser 1, 3x Gatling Battery

Phasers and Gatling Batteries are I think new, Phasers are combined Grasers/Needle Beams/Area PDS but if fired in alt fire modes need one FCS per turret, and Gatling Batteries get 6 dice at 12" but cost a fuckload of mass.

>>54037599
note: for scale purposes apparently it's 15cm x 4cm x 3cm so it's pretty hefty, and I went for the highest detail material to make sure it has as much detail as I can get.

I'm probably going to paint it blue-grey with red or orange accents and prow

>>54034021
Wait, is bongs brit or strayan money? I don't know anymore.

>>54037856
I always thought it was British money, being British

>>54021455
>In games with freeform unit design and army composition, do you tend to enjoy trying to justify every decision you make with fluff and spending time agonising over every design to make sure it feels like unified faction?
I'm trying my darnedest to make it fit. Here's my Schtick and it's kinda similar to the 1632 books.

I'm trying to build myself an Empire Army for Warhammer 9th age and I want to use historical models freely. I had to come up with a way to be able to mix ancient middle east spearmen, roman infantry, napoleonic fusiliers and cannons. How to do this? By narrowing ourselves to a single region over time.

The ancients can be whatever but I've painted the star of David on them so they're the subjects of David and Saul.
The Romans are there in their lorica segmentata armour which matches with the armour of the roman garrisons in the Jerusalem area during the first 2 centuries AD.
The french were there in their expedition in 1800 so regular line infantry does well there.
Somehow all these troops ended up somewhere unimportant, like the border princes or Albion where they eventually start making mischief.

Now we get to the nitty gritty. Since my generals model, Napoleon, is dressed in his Emperor clothes from after his departure from Egypt I can't just say everyone comes directly from Egypt unto the battlefield, something more must be done. But I figured since weapons, uniforms and armour was teleported through time, space and universes so also must the history books. This way Napoleon can look in the history book and replicate the clothes he wore when he became Emperor. This way I also can use the 'Old Guard' grenadiers cap which was not in use during the Egypt expedition.

These caps bring me to my most ahistorical unit. The War elephant from M:TW2. If you remember it's the elephant with the cannon on it's back. Theoretically similar to the idea of a steam tank with a mounted cannon, it's useable for me.

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>>54038638
>These caps bring me to my most ahistorical unit. The War elephant from M:TW2. If you remember it's the elephant with the cannon on it's back. Theoretically similar to the idea of a steam tank with a mounted cannon, it's useable for me.
And who will be manning these elephants? Napoleons most trusted Old Guard of course. So I've placed three Grognards in the Howdah(well actually two since one is a corpse under the elephant). Since the french are more modern and knowledgable with the use of artillery they will be crewing the elephant instead of the Persians(?).

Only thing I'm currently stuck creatively on is wether I'll include a Hippogryph or not since I have one painted. I could claim that since they are in the Warhammer world they can be used but I'm wondering wether Napoleon would have seen them trained or just killed.

In either case, which historical figure would you like to see mounted on a Hyppogryph?

>>54037856
It's British, Australian money is dollarydoos

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So, does anybody play the LotR tabletop?

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>>54039393
Yes.

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>>54028851
Aurlok's in Alkemy have some crow people, although they aren't that bird looking.

>>54039427
is it fun? Can it be played with 20mm and 25mm bases from my warhammer armies?

>>54039600
It could use some tweaking, but overall yeah, it's fun. Just don't go over 500 points too much as it can bog down.

If you really want, you can use the square bases too, just give the figures a 0.5" area of melee or something. But I wouldn't let such silly things keep me from trying the game.

>>54039427
SWEET! It's hard to find other players. The only ones who play it at my FNGS is me and my friend. We play loose games. I run a combo of Last Alliance elves and Gondor. I have some Rohirim but I haven't gotten a chance to use em. I also ordered Tranduil, the sexy fuck, and some of his Mirkwood warriors, but I haven't gotten them.

>>54039427
Do you know if there's a handy PDF of all the collected rules anywhere?

>>54039753
It's not all the rules in one PDF, but there are rules in the Novice Trove in the OP

>>54039742
I'm doing a Rivendell army for both WotR and SBG as you can see - at the moment I have approx. 4-4 trays of sword and bow painted with an Elrond and one of the twins done. Have a bunch of recast spearmen, lots of wood elves and a box of Rivendell Knights, plus Glorfindel (ft and mtd), plus Gil-galad in need of some repairs...oh, and the old Thranduil as the new one looks gay as fuck. I'll need to finish a playable army for WotR as we want to play that mostly, wicked fun game. There's only the two of us who play here it as well, but we don't really give a fuck as we can amass large armies cheaply.

Also, maybe I'll get the Norba elves for Mirkwood and make some stats for them in WotR. Could be fun.

>>54039600
Really fun. I like the feel of it more than Warhammer and 40k. I have had some really fun times. There was a couple of times that fun hoopty has occurred.

>>54039806
I am a dirty Bishi fan so I dig new Thranduil. I'll have to check out the Novice Trove. Right now we only have the one rule book between us. It's the one that came from the RotK box set, so it's OLD.

>>54029500
yeah I thought they'd be underbarrel launchers cause they have a flat bit which would connect to the rail/handguard and they have two little wires the poke out at the top and they line up with the receiver. God knows though,

>>54029510
thanks bby

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>>54040128

They're IEDs.

>>53991052
I'd highly recommend Squad Leader over Advanced Squad Leader, if you insist.

>>54038638
>I'm trying to build myself an Empire Army for Warhammer 9th age and I want to use historical models freely. I had to come up with a way to be able to mix ancient middle east spearmen, roman infantry, napoleonic fusiliers and cannons. How to do this? By narrowing ourselves to a single region over time.

>Now we get to the nitty gritty. Since my generals model, Napoleon, is dressed in his Emperor clothes from after his departure from Egypt I can't just say everyone comes directly from Egypt unto the battlefield, something more must be done. But I figured since weapons, uniforms and armour was teleported through time, space and universes so also must the history books. This way Napoleon can look in the history book and replicate the clothes he wore when he became Emperor. This way I also can use the 'Old Guard' grenadiers cap which was not in use during the Egypt expedition.

>>54038718
>And who will be manning these elephants? Napoleons most trusted Old Guard of course. So I've placed three Grognards in the Howdah

This is the stupidest thing I've read all day. It's not even 7am though, and it does sound great, so have fun. Everything needs more war elephants.

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>>54044544
It looks off center but it isn't. Sorry for not having better lighting. Their uniforms is a mix of old and young guard. Since I don't have all the colours I required I just figured Napoleon created a new uniform for his elephant crew.

>>54037599
I'm a fan of this guy's stuff. I have plans to order two small task groups to teach my roommate Squadron Strike. I just need to figure out what ships I want...

>>54046367
The Novus stuff looks amazing, go for that.

I've also found another Shapeways shop with very obvious Starblazers ships so my opfor is getting one of these:

https://www.shapeways.com/product/LG26HPMLF/edsf-second-generation-battleship-mk3?optionId=42391672

>>54037698
Sounds pretty good. You're under obligation to provide a picture when it's received/done now.

How do you guys like skirmish games in 15mm and other small scales?

>>54047820
Will do!

Northstar has some warzone stuff on sale if anyone's interested, just letting you know.

As a heads up, the SAGA media fire link in the trove is dead, apparently. Could anyone link me a working one please?

>>54045455
This owns and I am so glad to have seen it.

>>54050462
check the medieval link in /hwg/'s pasta

>>54050610
Just did that, the only difference is that our one has /saga/ on the end of it. Theirs works though.

Thanks

>>54050597
Thank you buddy

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Really enjoying Spectre Miniatures. Scratches my itch for a realistic wargame in the modern setting that isn't Sangin.

Rundown of the rules if anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qADfMdLwnY

boltactioncp gets some rules wrong in his playthrough but overall gives a solid idea of how the game is.

>>53987981

Hey /awg/

Is anyone here experienced with Frostgrave? I'm going to be starting it soon and I'm a little overwhelmed with how to make a wizard. How vital are attack spells and taking low spells to start?

Fluffwise I'd love to run a Sigilite but I'm concerned about most of its benefits not really being of use to start.

Basically any pointers of people who went before me and fucked up would be appreciated.

>>54054899
I'd say it's mostly /hwg/ territory, but ah well. By any chance, do you have a shareable 2nd edition rulebook?

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Here's a breakdown of how the new Skirmiaher sculpt will work for PRDF with the new Heavy Gear KS.

Still not sure I like the separate skirt bits. Just seems too fiddly for so little.

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Has anyone here played Relic Knights before? I've never really played any wargames before, I come from more of a ttrpg and tcg background, but I've been warming to the idea of buying a starter kit or a couple of factions for a game that I can play with a buddy. I like the look of Relic Knights due to the colorful characters and the game looks simple and similar to some tcg/ccgs I've played in the past.

Was just curious if you guys had any thoughts on it, or general recommendations for someone new to wargaming (who doesn't have a huge local scene and will probably just play with friends).

>>54058377
1st edition was atrocious both mechanically and model-wise
2nd promises improvement on both fronts, but I have yet to see

>>54058417
Noted, thank you!

>>54058377
>and the game looks simple and similar to some tcg/ccgs
Though I'm not a fan of it myself, Warmachine/Hordes feels a lot like MTG to me from a gamedesign pov.

I feel like I should recommend Malifaux or Guildball instead though.
Do you know anything about your local gaming scene? Might help with the decision a bit and maybe you're able to catch a demo game.

>>54055423
I have played a lot of FG. Sigilists are powerful wizard types with access to a lot of excellent spells (Push, Fog). My general advice is to make sure you have a few spells that are very easy to cast, keeping your apprentice in mind. Try to take one spell that helps you move around, one spell that gives some level of terrain or board manipulation (Mud, Fog, Crumble, Leap etc.)

Otherwise, DO NOT take FG as a serious competitive game. Don't try to fine-tune your wizard. The game simply isn't sharp enough mechanically to hold up to this kind of play and nobody is likely to be happy.

I also high recommend implementing GeekKen's alternative rules for the XP system and limiting turns per game.

>>54058125

Seems really posable but man... you're right.

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near future imagi-nations bump

>>54059670
Malifaux is another game I've looked into but the look and style of the game don't appeal to me as much. I might read further into the rules, though.

And guildball looks sorta neat, never heard of it before. Thank you for the recommendation!

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>>54046412
I love the !Starblazers stuff, thanks for sharing. Also for future reference Oines' stuff looks just fine in WSF polished. I'll post a pic at some point. Pic related is the only thing I've gotten in FUD.

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>>54046412
>>54065455
You can see the difference between FUD and WSF

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>>54046412
>>54065455
Note, the fuzziness doesn't look bad in person, the camera really caught those details. Also these are before they offered polishing.

>>54065455
Thanks! I don't know if it's the printing, paint or lighting but the left ship in >>54065653 doesn't look like the detail panels are very well defined - is this the case?
doesn't seem to have

>>54065869
Yes, when I got it, it looked like one big blob, but it's also only an inch long. As long as you're not dealing with lots of tiny detail WSF work fine though.

>>54058377
I actually quite liked Relic Knights for a goofy wargame.

>>54065869
Oh, if you are going to get a bunch of stuff in FUD, contact the shop owner and ask if they can do bundle packs for you. This guy has some details.

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/armadillo-models?li=pb

>>54065918
Ah, that's one of the small ships, that makes sense.

I guess for a 4-6" centrepiece model like the battleships there would be more visible detail.

>>54065945
I've been looking into Guild Ball thanks to the other anon's recommendation and it looks pretty cool but Relic Knights still seems to be the one that appeals most to my aesthetic and mechanical interests. So it's nice to know that someone out there likes it. Goofy is definitely my sort of thing.

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Turns out GW still makes metal figures.
Now do I surround him with Abrakhan guards or Mahud?

>>54066260
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend it as a game that's particularly balanced or that well thought out, but it has it's charms - I like the deployment rules, for instance, and as terrible as people say the activation queue system is, it's not altogether terrible.

I don't know if there's some rules floating about on the internet for it to look over though.

>>54069019
Corollary to this though - it's probably going to be a lot easier to find players for Guild Ball compared to Relic Knights. The only other person I knew locally who played it was my brother, and he's left. There's plenty of Guild Ball players though.

>>54069019
I definitely think there were some neat ideas in RK, though card mechanics were just worse than Malifauxs IMHO. But Ill also add that guild balls a cool game.