ChumpChain CYOA Thread #1567: Not Everything Should Be Polarizing

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On a more serious note, have something I think a few of you need to read at least a little bit.

>>53887530
You're wrong, but thank you for saying so, anyways.

>>53887530
Hahaha in my dreams maybe. My life has been in shambles for a long time. Why do you think I'm on /jc/?

>>53887530
I am pretty awesome, aren't I? Thanks anon.

>>53887564
>>53887579
You're still fukken alive.

That counts for more than you think.

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Whats there to do in dark souls?

>>53887621
Survive.

>>53887621
Suffer.

>>53887530
Thank you anon, I think that's probably important for a lot of people here. I know I get told that often enough. I have a hard time believing people can be proud of me or love me at times, but I get a little better every day at taking it in.

>>53887616
Only because I'm so much of a pussy that I can't even kill myself. Me still being alive is just another failure.

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>>53887621
Yo, these guys >>53887635 >>53887639 have the right idea. Looting the ruins of lost civilizations and hunting monsters is good stuff on top of that though. All sorts of neat weapons and armor and junk.

A Super Mario…Thing Version 3.51 A Cataquack Warrior Production
door filters +300 okay this is annoying but still manageable . Since I have my own super modes
Engine Swap +300 Mother Box new imperative! Study This effect immediately! We haven't come across a gold mine of data like this since Wonderland!
Full Walkthrough+800 fortunately I have a companion to help guide me, who has done this all before. Hey raocow how much of this nonsense do you remember?
rolling for location Roll(1d8)+0:5,+0 Total:5 5. Castle of Absolutely No Significance Whatsoever will
Toad -100 it has a discount I want
spin jump -100 very handy
Time-Out!-300 , a classic! And a great new defensive power
Punctuated Time-500 how can I not take this?
Harmless NPC Free for Toad not sure how much use. I'm going to get out of this since I'm very obviously dangerous. Most of the time
world Hacking-300 another step into the videogamification of everything.
Second chance -600 morally obligated to take this.
Crazy Koopa Communists -300 if they have technology there needs to be a baseline for things to work off of, this will teach me that.
Ambiguously Cannon -200 discount for toad let's face it, someday I'm going to screw up really bad, worse than even a late game jumper can fix and need this.

>>53887685
You know what people like? Reliability you know what people don't have a stable set of universal laws, fortunately a lot of my technology is backed up by Fiat so I can make things like mirrors that will actually reflect whenever you look at them and other such things
rolling o see what mother box can science. Roll(1d100)+0:78,+0 Total:78 zip,Zilch, Nada
rolling to see how much progress I can make -30 for superspeed and having someone who's done this before possessing my body via my driver belt. Roll(1d100)-30:73,-30 Total:43 . This is a tying failure,raocow didn't do this in first person and it's throwing him off. What if he switches back to voiceover mode And we activate mantra level VIII? Roll(1d100)-30:24,-30
Total:1 . Solid success! The chain is safe! But it looks like the centipede Zecter is a little burned out how long will repairs/recuperation take? Roll(1d12)+0:5,+0Total:5 50 years, but it's worth it, and it will receive the treatment. It needs to get better

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>>53887621
Fire Keeper

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What does your computer room look like?

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>>53887895
Like this.

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[A Super Mario...Thing]

Drawbacks: Mario is Missing, Criss-Cross Chaos, Engine Swap, Find the Switch! (1600)

Rolled Grocery Market

Toad, age 24 (1500)

Harmless NPC (Free)
Construction (1350)
Item Babysitter (1150)
World Hacking (850)
Portal Jumper (450)
Soundtrack (Free)
Disco Tank (400)
Cut-Off (250)
Ambiguously Cannon (50)
Treasure Chests (0)

I imagine the other Mario characters are pretty much reacting like the humans in Dogscape-haunted and wearied by the living nightmare their world has become. Bowser and Peach having put aside their differences so their kingdoms can survive amidst the maddened doppleganger races, Wario and Waluigi scourging for scraps in some eldritch backwater. Legend tells of Luigi's descent into madness, during his search for the one man believed capable of saving this world.

"Wait, look on the horizon! That posture, that confidence...could it be...him?"
"..."
"No wait it's that one scrap metal wizard"

...man, it's weird how different the perception of a hero is in these 'verses. I'm okay with it though, rather not deal with any expectations here. Just roll up in town, people gloomily nodding as I smile, wave and do my normal 'bot minionSo bonus boss thing. Slowly curry some hope by building up a couple of safe zone levels without giant touhou heads or cat llamas or other abominations rampaging around in.

Pity my more architectually inclined companions can't seem to agree on which fortifactions are the best.

"We should build a giant robot"
"That's stupid, we just need a wall and a gravity gun! Made of flesh!"
"Hey guys, why don't we make a big flesh wall...out of giant robots?"
"Foolishness. We should build a wonder that inspires courage, not fear"
"Hela, you want to keep them safe with A LITERAL GHOST ARMY. That is the opposite of inspiring courage"
"...do these mortals not feel safe when surrounded by unstoppable, eternally vigilant souls?"
"Not these ones. Trust me, not these ones"

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[Stellaris]

Drawbacks: Extended Stay, Civilisations From Jumps Past: The City (Blame!), Unbidden, The Swarm, Fallen Empire, War In Heaven (3600)

Scientist Leader (3400)

Genius (Free)
Dedicated Research (3300)
Safe Researcher (3150)
Reverse Engineering (2950)
The Ever Expanding Tree (2650)
Glasses (2600)
Test Subject (2500)
AI Assistent (2300)
Fallen Blueprints (1900)
Ether Drake Baby (1100)
Ethics Technologies: Improved Stations (900), Upgraded Reactors (800), Improved Labs (600), Genetic Manipulation (300), Uplifting and Integration (0)
Ethics Perks (2100): Mineral Senses (2000), Anomalous Empire (1700), Uplifting Without Issue (1600), Kawaii Desu (1300), Exterminatus (1200), Evolutionary Mastery (600), Master Builders (0)

I stared blankly at the command center of the City. It was empty, but for the Governing Authority, some tumbleweeds and my companions.

All these Safeguards under my command, and my citizens still go through the same motions. It all just feels so...

Empty. Lifeless. Without purpose, even after the recompilation program.

This shall not be!

Erupting into the space between spaces, I meld the Reverse Phase Imagining Polymer with Symbiote-flesh and Gauna cores upon the gravity furnaces in endless worlds. Which I baptise in my own chalcanth.

Transmitting through the Net Sphere, I install photonic-Core hybrid crystals-and program them with both the Evolutionary Function and the Demon Summoning Program. Under my gaze, the structures needed to form a Webway also developed near the mainframes.

Dawning upon the edge of an awestruck Electrofisher village, I instruct the Builders in non-euclidean, Asgardian and Entity building techniques. My holy radiation converts some of them into behemoths, as my City's iterations need Elemental Poles.

My citizens are too fragmented to research space travel, so they won't have to. If men cannot fly to the stars, they shall walk. Faster than the speed of light, my City builds roads to reach them.

(cont'd)

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With Maker's Prodigy and Maker form from Darksiders, would be be possible to make non-sentient autonomous labor constructs?

I remember in the game there were outright sentient constructs that required a Maker's soul to be made while the non-sentient constructs didn't function without someone piloting them.

I just want magic labor force, but not if they are sentient because that feel oddly cruel to create life for such a mundane purpose.

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>>53887970
The sudden, all-encompassing technological great leap forwards coupled with widespread curiosity is put down to some sort of reformation program. Isolated humanoid communities like the Electrofisher enclaves shrug, and pragmatically start competitive terraforming. Somewhere at the edges of the City, the Silicon Life packs cry happy tears of joy as they scramble to eke out a community to live in. For all my invitations, none of the Safeguards except Killy and Sanakan express anything resembling interest in civilisation.

Despite this, diplomacy proves difficult. It's not a matter of casualties; like a golden retriever, the City is careful only to fetch uninhabited planets for raw materials and unused suns for energy pylons. The problem is that even with countless teleporter technologies, the sheer distance (worsened by the eldritch space warping I'd introduced, to my dismay) makes communication...somewhat haphazard.

"Unknown entity, identify yourselves!"
"...you got any ration bricks?"
"What?"
"Oh good, this 'phone' thing's on. Uh, hi, Oda-san asked me to go collect some rations just in case. Who are you people and what are you doing over the horizon?"
"Take us to your leaders!"
"Actualy, the big light in the sky said this place is built for us. And I'm the only human for lightyears. Which makes me the owner of this layer, I guess? Never really thought of it that way, huh"
"Y-you own a tangible part of this THING that dwarfs stars, and YOU take orders from someone else?!"
"I guess?"
"We surrender! We surrender unconditionally!"
"Okay, but seriously. Do you have any rations?"
"Yes! Yes, here-take our harvests! Please tell your overlords we can ready our most beautiful slaves and exquisite drugs by the next planetary rotation!"
"SHIT SHIT SHIT DON'T DROP ALL THAT ON ME"

Half an hour later, a very confused Electrofisher scout returned to her village with an army of Safeguards towing enough food to feed a planet.

(Cont'd)

>>53887621
PRAISE THE SUN

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>>53887986
At some point we overran a couple of bickering ancient empires. I was busy adminstrating several City-offshoots in alternate universes, when SHODAN reported familiar but unauthorised technology discharges. To my great joy, the benevolent observer faction's surrender resulted in the first successful diplomatic mission I actively participated in. Sadly the isolationists accidentally teleported themselves into another layer while trying to hack a SCT and were presumed missing, eaten by the less civilised locals.

War sort of broke out thrice, both times caught by SHODAN's vigilance. Some sort of insectoid race was attempting to terrorise a Silicon tribe, but got lost in a tangle of spatial infinities and started to starve while meandering between universes. After some translation, Ambassador Sanakan returned with a plea for sanctuary which I accepted after discovering the tribe had interbred with one of their queens. Reports of their pursuers matched reports of an invasive civilisation that Ambassador Killy disposed of fifty lightyears from the incident. The Swarm's hivemind reacted with a shocked "HAK THE FUCK OFF?!".

More seriously, an entire layer was lost when invasive energy beings attempted to feed on it's biomass-and detonated the Gravity Furance by accident. The conversion of matter into quantum foam also wiped them out-along with every living thing on the layer, and caused massive damage from nearby earthquakes. This heralded the first cooperation between Silicon Life, human-variants, Observers and Swarms to create a dimensional focal lens to their home plane. They reverse engineered their hitherto-unidentified energy weapons by bottling the bastards with necrodermis.

(Cont'd)

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>>53887621
Greet some kind inhabitants.

Been away for a week or so, any updates on Black Crusade or Solars? Or anything else interesting?

>>53887984
Well there are all of the golems Death winds up wrecking in the process of trying to reach the Tree that don't seem to be reliant on souls.

>>53888021
Red's gone, Black Crusade's up for grabs.

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>>53888002
There was but one flaw. The City's rapid evolution paradoxically meant little changed among it's populace. I feared that after all this time, I had failed to create a purpose for my citizens.

Then not a century after subjugating a rival AI rebellion, I found the Worm.

So lonely. So without purpose. So awestruck by what I had wrought.

It shyly passing me love notes about recursion and singularities. I reciporcated with a raunchy limmerick about sunspots and a living sonnet written in soulfire. All the while having The Talk with my citizens, meaningfully pointing out they couldn't keep living under my radiance forever. It was barely necessary; the natives were happy to meet a new friend and joined me in writing back love notes, while the immigrants were inspired by their total lack of fear.

The Worm struggled with ego death, and madness. At first, it was frustrated and thought I/my City was playing coy, leading it on. Then I took a dream of a man shooting himself beyond the event horizon it lived in, and it wailed at the idea of it's love in agony. Equipped with my knowledge, the inhabitents of my City had already begun work on a solution.

The Wireless Avatar Interface For Unity borrowed equally from fatima engineering, data integration and Incubator energistics. Planets were converted into genesis-factory lines while asteroid belts became entropic recursion fields. With my own Ascent to Transcendence, we perfected the "Omega Theory" into a positive feedback loop.

Or in layman's terms, we punched a hole in space-time with the power of love so the Worm could live among us as our neighbour, without subsuming us. Also everybody got an eldritch magical girl guardian.

If you want a picture of my City's future, imagine a black hole and a sun, revolving around each other forever. Two worlds, one half empty and one half full. Each missing something, but together more than the sum of their parts.

Like a bride and groom, waltzing through eternity.

>FIN

>>53888028
I thought those were possessed by the corruption? I might be horrible remembering the game though.

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>>53887895

>>53888058
It might be. Far as I'm aware at the moment though, only the GIANT constructs required a Maker's soul.

I have Darksiders 1 and 2, so I could double-check after classes later today.

>>53887895
I am a computer.

Beep boop.

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>>53887895
Something like this.

...When I bother with more than just my implanted computer. Direct neural interfaces are convenient.

I have a question for the thread.

I'm making some preliminary plans for the Guyver jump and I'd like to know something.
You know how we love customisation and options, well Guyver doesn't really have much of that for the Guyver itself. It adjusts slightly for different body types and genders and that's pretty much it, unless you factor in Guyver Gigantic.
So, a friend introduced me years ago to a site called Warrior Guyver, at warriorguyver.com. It has a series of stories set in the Guyver universe, most of which are terribe, but they were a guilty pleasure of mine from back then. The site explores in the fanverse a lot of different permutations and variations on Guyvers, and I was wondering if I should use it for the Guyver customisation section of the jump I'm making, maybe include a drawback that makes the events of warriorguyver's fanfiction canon.
What do you guys think?

>>53888136
That's a nice plushie.

>>53888086
Thanks, I wish the wiki had more information but its not that big of a deal.

Honestly I should have bought the series for PC when I had the chance as I dont play on any of my consoles anymore.

Looking forward to Darksiders 3 even though id have to break out the ps4 to play.

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>>53888157
Forgot the damned image. Sorry.

>>53888179
>Darksiders 3

Ugh. I've never been more torn. Honestly I'm hype as fuck looking forward to this, but... That initial trailer just does NOT look like Darksiders.

And Fury's hair is triggering me more than it reasonable should.

>>53888157
You could keep the customization to the zoanoids, they tend to vary in body type. Guyver would be for those who want raw power, Zoanoid for those who want versatility.

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>>53888086
>>53888058
It was, but the crucial part of the Guardian was a couple of heart stones; once one was purified, it started to fight back until it mutually KO'd the local corruption. So yeah, they can do huge golem things.

>>53887895
Fully digised, like the code rains in the Matrix. Except less green-on-black, and more whatever colours are relevant to specific lines of code on octarine.

>>53887621
Set yourself on fire, or let the world fade into darkness. That's

>>53887530
Find the best seats in the house to watch the world end, and decide who you want to spend it with and how you want to spend your time up until then.

>>53888206
Remember the first CGI trailer for DS2 tho. Death looked like a retarded monkey.

>>53888206
I like that there was actual colors but the lighting made everything seem very cartoonish. Its still in the works though, so I have hope.

And yeah I dont know whats up with the hair. All the other characters had 'solid' hair and her flowing strands stand right out.

Ill be optimistic for now.

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Sonnuva-

>>53887621
>Set yourself on fire, or let the world fade into darkness. That's something you should probably let somebody else take a crack at though, unless it's to stop one choice or the other being made

>>53888206
Yeah, it's...unpolished. Like >>53888259 said I'm just hoping it's getting way more polished come release.

At least the new God of War trailer looks nice?

>>53888259
>>53888271
Meanwhile I'm sitting over here waiting a few more years to play Strife. Also, that hair is seriously bothering.

>>53888291

This is what happens when you don't let Kratos just be a Dad.

He wakes up the World Serpent and kicks off fucking Ragnarok.

>>53888242
Oh, I fully intend to give the zoanoids lots of customisation. Oodles of it. To the point where the work ahead of me actually makes me a little nervous.

In terms of power and versatility I want to give people the ability to get both through either paths if possible. Whether i'll have to revise my plans further into the initial planning stage is something I am open to.

Are you familifar with warrorguyver? Is there anything useful you think I can take from it? Or should I go pure Guyver?

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Have you ever resurrected someone to waifu /jc/?

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>>53887895
This pic is pretty close, it's just some Wi-Fi antennas,a group power grid Hook up and a lot of bigger on the inside rooms full of Computronium.

>>53888341
>Are you familifar with warrorguyver? Is there anything useful you think I can take from it? Or should I go pure Guyver?
I'm not, unfortunately. Sorry. I'll give it a look, though, see if there's anything interesting.

>>53888359
I've resurrected someone else's waifu a few times, if that counts?

Also technically my Servants from the Fate/ jumps.

>>53888359
I've prevented a few deaths, and I think I stuck around in one setting for so long she reincarnated, but that's about it.

>>53888433
Frankly I'd advise you to focus on the data files. The fanfiction itself is a real slog. But thanks for being willing to put yourself out to help, Anon. i appreciate it.

>>53888050
I'll bet.

Would TGWP be different enough from RWBY to make a jump of it?

No, I wouldn't offer gamer.

>>53888516
Last I heard she was working on the Slaanesh or Tzeentch perks. It seems like it's not far off from being ready.
I'd say I'm looking forward to it, but no offence to Red, I'm not much of a fan of wk40.

>>53888552
Neat, thanks.

>>53888544
If yuo take Gamer out of the equation, what material differences would there be that you could offer?
Super Grimm powers like the horsemen? Or Gilgamesh?
Sephiroth-based perks?
Oh, elementals?
There may be enough potential there for a jump with some creativity.
If you are willing to take it on, then good luck and thank you.

>>53888544
I don't know man. Can you come up with enough content to make it a different Jump from both RWBY and Gamer?

Questions about Sims, but I guess this could apply to any 'family-friendly' universe:

In Sims there are a bunch of thinly veiled expies for real life drugs and alcohol. Nectar is clearly wine and a bunch of the 'herbs' are clearly referencing things such a weed, speedball, etc.

My question is do we only count there in game effects or do we count what they are based off of. Cause a lot of the herbs have useful passive effects, but no way in hell would I take them if they had the actual consequences of what they are based off of.

>>53888596
Well, I can counter being similar to the gamer by not offering gamer.

>>53888591
Yes I would offer things based on the riders.

>>53888642
Well, the RWBY is sparse enough, so with some creativity you should manage to make a jump that is sufficiently different.

>>53888544
Yeah, it's pure powerlevel shit instead of weebshit.

>>53888608
If they don't have negative effects in the game, I don't see why you should invent them. The Sims' operate under different rules.

>>53888679
Sweet, the worst effect herbs have in game when they backfire is nausea which has lower chances the better quality the herb.

Nectars just taste awesome apparently without any of the downsides of alcohol. Might offer it as a alcohol alternative when I made that bar I'm planing.

>>53888778
>Drunkenness
>Downside

>>53888843
As someone who has very adverse reactions to alcohol, yeah. Why drink something that usually tastes awful to feel awful and then have a hangover and feel worse?

I get that other people actually feel better when drunk, I just can't apparently.

>>53888596
Man, whatever happened to Clover? A RWBY update would be great.

>>53888907
That is the saddest story I've ever heard in this thread.

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>>53888157
Customization isn't really Guyver's thing. They're prototypes remember? Zoanoids come in all sorts of shapes & different abilities, sure they're canon fodder for most part. Hyper Zoanoids & the Zoalords would probably be a good origin. Zoalord would be obvious captstone. Or maybe a mutation that costs all your mutation points.

>>53888933
I want to say I saw him inside the last... ten threads?

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>>53887895
With several perks from the Digimon Jumps allowing me to travel to the Digital World while also merging the Digital World with the Real World and also editing the Digital World thus letting me edit the Real World to some degree plus dozens of other software and hardware perks with a healthy dose of Technopathy and similar powers, I've attempted to create something similar to Yggdrasil from Digimon but with my own twist to it.

>>53888960
Yeah, I was thinking along those lines for Zoalords.
You're probably right about the guyver not really being something up for customisation, at the same time though I wonder if it will be well recieved if there isn't at least some choices made available, outside of imports.

I wonder if warriorguyver should be left to one side as a possible future project or just disregarded altogether? There are some really neat idea in that setting, so it would be a shame to lose out on them, but still...

>They're prototypes remember?
Are they? I thought they were the equivalent of an alien space suit with an unexpected reaction when worn by a human. I can't imagine the Creators using prototype space suits, then seems like a technology that an advanced alien race should have long since refined into a mature technology.

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>>53887895
I dont usually usr tech but when I do its magic thanks to a convergience of pock universe magitech computers and faery tail archive.

>>53888933
Just finished exams. Working on a whole bunch of stuff now that i have free time. A rwby update would need me to binge the latest season and research. Have to figure out some new semblances.

>>53889123
try searching 4plebs for 'rwby update', some guys actually thought up a decent amount of stuff.

Also, could we get robots as a race?

>>53889087
>Normy stumbles into jumpers porn folder

>>53889149
Oh I've seen it. Just need to balance costs or add stipends to things. And come up with appropriately themed powers.

Have there been enough sapient robots? I thought it was just prosthesis and Penny.

>>53889202
Think it's just penny. Doesn't make it not cool though.

>>53889123
Neat!

Love to stay and chat but i have to sleep. Hopefully the next time you see me is with a jump.

>>53888509
Okay, been following your advice and looking through the data files, and I'm not sure there's really all that much to go with. A lot of these are just "it's the Guyver, but stronger". Only a few have new features rather than just scaling up the stats. So let's see: The Warrior Guyver's ability to bring its host with it when it stores away in the sub-dimension to teleport them is a cool idea for a high-end upgrade and seems plausible for the Guyver. The Grakken bio-armors' ability to generate plasma for added thermal/kinetic energy in a given action is reasonable given what the Gigantic Unit can do. Angel Guyver's electromagnetic radiation manipulation is also plausible given the head laser, if a Guyver can shoot infrared energy why not microwaves or radio signals? Aside from that, I'm not seeing too much that is both an actual change instead of just a stat increase and also not some dumb OC donutsteel thing like the "Reaper Guyver" and its life-draining scythe. So yeah, I'm not sure this idea really works. Sorry, Brother_Anon, it would be neat to offer customization for the Guyver unit but I don't think it's practical.

>>53888960
Guyver's aren't prototypes, they're actually mass-produced. They were standard equipment for the Creators, they made their own personal tech stronger than their minions'. That's why they're not customized in canon, Guyvers are the equivalent of grunt equipment for the Creators. Presumably the higher-ups in the Creator hierarchy would have customized bio-armors, but those wouldn't have been left behind on Earth.

>>53888359
Olivie is good taste.

BELKA SHALL LAST FOREVER

>>53889411
Belka ?

>>53889441
Glory to

>>53889457
THE HYPNOTOAD

>>53888544
TGWP?

>>53889457
THE EMPIRE

>>53889491
The Games We Play, a Gamer/RWBY cross staring Jaune the magical tiger man.

Why the fuck is this thread titled wrong? Who allowed this?

>>53889491
The Games We Play. It's a RWBY/The Gamer crossover fanfic that is really neither of those things. It's actually the author's weird kabbalah/ Hindu mysticism mashup that spends the first fifty chapters or so (it's a long fic, whether it needs to be that long or is just full of filler is debatable) tricking you into thinking it's about Jaune Arc getting The Gamer power. But as it goes on its becomes increasingly clear that the setting he's working with has little to do with RWBY, and the more it tries to tie all these weird concepts to the world of Remnant the more obvious it becomes. Mostly because the power level is ridiculously escalated, and also expanded into a lot of weird directions that people in RWBY just don't use. There aren't any summoners, or alchemists, or elemental mages in RWBY (well, okay, elemental users in RWBY, but they do it all through Dust and not Aura manipulation). And the story can go on about how these are lost techniques all it wants, they still don't fit into the original setting. And why are they lost if they're all so useful, especially when the Grimm are far more powerful in this world and humanity needs that edge?

>>53888544
Not familiar with TGWP, but the RWBY jump has a lot of OC. The things that really define it as a jump about RWBY are aura, the availability of variable weapons, and the availability of dust, not any specific abilities the characters have. You could probably get away with doing another jump about RWBY.

More worried about The Gamer. Like you've mentioned, not offering those powers seems like the easiest way of doing it. Not the first time a jump has made certain abilities unavailable.

>>53889441
Nothing to worry about, just a small nothing country full of sorry worthless peoples who cant even pick themselves up and build a real house. Belka shall never rise.

>>53889343
Thanks for looking into it for me, Anon and giving me your findings. I appreciate it and I think I'll follow your advice.

I should warn you that it's probably going to be a while before Guyver is finished/jumpable. I've still got two jumps on my plate to deal with before I can give it my full attention

>this bullshit to justify a crossover fanfiction as a jump
The answer is, and will always be, absolutely not. There isn't nearly enough difference in the setting, there are two separate jumps of the individual properties on their own, the only reason a jump would be made is as an excuse to offer more power from both settings that aren't offered in the jumps right now.

>>53889638
We also have a gamer jump, so there's no reason to offer the power other than to spite blade.

hey I'm doing Kamen Rider Heisei Part 1: Kuuga and Agito V 1.5 and would it be a moral evil to take and use the seed of darkness? A lot of the stuff that can threaten me at this point is stuff that keeps adapting so Is the perk evil in and of itself or is its potential usages evil?

>>53889343
Guyver in their language means Abnormal", "Non-Standard", &/or "Out of Control". They were created by the Creators not for themselves but for humans for their wars. They were experimental, Guyver 0 was the first Guyver & it rebelled when bonded with a human.

>>53889092
We do have jumps based on fanfics so its always something you can come back and do later if you want. Just leave it open to either import something as your guyver suit, or add the guyvers qualities to existing armor, and I think it would be awesome.

>>53889637
>And why are they lost if they're all so useful, especially when the Grimm are far more powerful in this world and humanity needs that edge?
My understanding is that the reasons are twofold.
Firstly, the Grimm do have intelligent direction and would prioritise killing off people with those skills to prevent them from being passed on. And secondly, these skills are hard for people to learn and use. Jaune thanks to Gamer/keter can cheat and use them easily, other people don't have that advantage.

>>53889710
My understanding is that the Gamer power is not on the table in any case.

>>53889708
We have precedent, anon. It's a bit too late to complain against an entire type of jump when we've already long since crossed that rubicon.
Also why didn't you link to a post? Seems odd to me for you not to.

>>53889745
More or less. Two things cropped up with Guyver 0 the Creators didn't expect and scared the pants off them.
Firstly, the units synergise absurdly well with humans turning a spacesuit into a wmd and secondly and more scarily for them it also made the wearer immune to their telepathic control.
You could argue the combination is experimental, but not the suit/unit itself.

>it rebelled when bonded with a human.
Guyver's don't have their own intelligence outside the friend-or-foe mode when badly damaged. It was the human who rebelled using the unit.

>>53889790
>We have precedent

Precedent is never a good argument because nine times out of ten, the idiot who set that precedent got shat on and then ignored it.

>>53889745
No, they were created for the Creators. The term "Guyver" is used to refer to the armors a lot (in both the series and the fandom), but it's not technically accurate, and I apologize for the confusion. On their own, the suits are just called bio-armors. The term "Guyver", with all its connotations of abnormality and uncontrollability, refers specifically to the human/bio-armor merger. Guyvers are the result of the Creators going "Hey, these humans make for really good genetically-engineered super soldiers. I wonder what would happen if we tried merging one with a bio-armor instead of subjecting them to the zoanoid process?". And then Guyver 0 was created, started killing everyone because he had way better response to the bio-armor than they expected, and it took Archanfel to subdue him long enough for the extractor unit to be used.

>>53889738

If it won't effect anyone else go and knock yourself out man

>>53889811
It's good when people ignore you.

>>53889819
elaborate on that, I'm planning on using it strictly for self-defense if that helps clarify things. It would not be punitive in any way.

>>53889779
Good idea, anon. thank you. I'll add that to my notes.

>>53889811
Well, then we have had cases of 1 out of ten, as I don't remember those jumps being 'shat on' when they were introduced to the thread.

>>53889814
Do we know what Creators look like?

>>53889790
>Firstly, the Grimm do have intelligent direction and would prioritise killing off people with those skills to prevent them from being passed on. And secondly, these skills are hard for people to learn and use. Jaune thanks to Gamer/keter can cheat and use them easily, other people don't have that advantage.
I know that those are the excuses given by the story. But they don't scan to me, people retain knowledge of these skills. There are actual skillbooks for many of them and not just something dropped as loot, it's only the really crazy stuff that Keter needs to get from Sephirotic Synthesis or prestige skills. They just don't use them for some reason. Keter encounters a single character who uses any of the skills he's learned. Just one.

>>53889844
Nope. It's implied that they were actually a coalition of many species, though, not a single one, and that's why their bio-armor can be used by humans. They're meant to interface with many types of biology, ours was just a little better than the Creators expected.

>>53889637
>elemental mages
>he doesn't know

>>53889891
What, the shit with the Maidens and the Wizard? This story was written before that plot point, anon.

>>53889903
And? That doesn't change the fact that they exist. Therefore >>53889637 is wrong and needs to sit there in his wrongness

>>53889834
>elaborate on that, I'm planning on using it strictly for self-defense if that helps clarify things. It would not be punitive in any way.

I was saying that no it wouldn't be evil if you used it as self defense so go ahead.

>>53889937
One last question are you The Ebon Dragon?

>>53889937
>>53889963 wasn't meant to be an insult or a judgment it's just he's tricky so I have to check.

>>53889963
~le dragon laugh~

>>53889963
>>53889994

>One last question are you The Ebon Dragon?

No worries bancho, And no I'm not.Stopping someone from growing like that is a good technique but should only be used as a last resort

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>>53887895

>>53889994
It's heartwarming that I am still in your thoughts, Bancho-kun.
Go ahead. You have my blessing. This sounds like a good, wholesome idea. Go on. Do it. You know you want to.

>>53889997
he really messed me up in so many ways that day,you don't even know!

>>53890033
>No worries bancho, And no I'm not.Stopping someone from growing like that is a good technique but should only be used as a last resort

okay thank you
>>53890042
first of all fuck you,Second of all , never speak to me again , Thirdly die.

>>53890065
>never speak to me again , Thirdly die.
You first Tera-kun~

>>53890033
Though a last resort that you should use first. Like, the moment you learn that a threat can just keep growing in power, you want to hit them with that. Last resort in terms of morality, since you don't want to use it on everyone, but first resort in terms of response time.

>>53889963

>The Ebon Dragon?

Considering how the Seed of Darkness works it seems more like a Cecelyne or a She Who Lives In Her name thing to me.

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>>53890065
Oh, Bancho. You summoned me first, remember?
But it's alright. Next time I talk to you, I shall pretend to not be me, and give you good solid advice from the bottom of the pit I call my 'heart'.
>die
Oh, Bancho. Aren't you just *cute*. I remember now why I like you so much. We think alike, you and I.

>>53890065
>Thirdly die.
He is tricking you, if the Ebon Dragon dies he becomes even worse of a problem.

>>53889930
Okay, fine, let me be more accurate: There is no elemental magic that more than four (maybe six, depending on what Salem and Ozpin turn out to be) people in the world at a time can learn, in the world of RWBY.

>>53890112
>Though a last resort that you should use first. Like, the moment you learn that a threat can just keep growing in power, you want to hit them with that. Last resort in terms of morality, since you don't want to use it on everyone, but first resort in terms of response time.

Exactly, but you also have to remember that it also passes though the targets lineage as well, So those heroes and such who are the the Demon lords long lost son and such also need to be accounted for

>>53890133
Never speak in absolutes.
Those are just the ones we know of, it's entirely possible that there's more magic users just waiting to be found

>>53890108
how about we take turns with with it? You've got seven souls. I've got seven lives,it'll be fun
>>53890132
I have a perk for that

>>53890149
I don't think it works retroactively. I mean, it might, the wording is vague, but I'm fairly certain it only curses those who are descended from them after they themselves are cursed.

>>53889811
Not sure what jumps you're talking about, but if the jumps got shat on in the thread, they shouldn't have been approved for the drive. Defeats the purpose of thread approval.

>>53890132
Kind of surprised ED hasn't committed suicide, he opposes everything including himself and that would be a rather brutal way to screw over literally everyone ever.

>>53890170
>You've got seven souls. I've got seven lives,it'll be fun
*Giggle* That's right. Don't play any game you haven't rigged in your favour right from the start. Good show, bancho-kun.

>>53890202
Superficially, yes, but over time the net screwing over of everyone would be less, so I endure to screw over as many people as possible, including myself.

>>53890179
>I don't think it works retroactively. I mean, it might, the wording is vague, but I'm fairly certain it only curses those who are descended from them after they themselves are cursed.

That makes more sense, but you still have to beware of the cases of the Demon Lord's Future son rebelling against him and becoming the hero

>>53890166
Eh, fair enough: The world of RWBY, as presented by the narrative, does not support the idea that there is non-Maiden elemental magic. It is possible that there is and such has simply not been shown, but it does not comply with the narrative themes of the story at the time being and certainly did not with the themes of the story at the point at which The Games We Play introduced the idea.

Is that better?

>>53890231
Yeah, but you're crippling the Demon Lord. He should be weak enough that it won't take someone that's inherited his power to bring him down.

>>53890275
>Yeah, but you're crippling the Demon Lord. He should be weak enough that it won't take someone that's inherited his power to bring him down.

Usually it's because he was the Demon lord son that he can grow strong enough to beat him, Or something like that

>>53890275
Aaaand what if that Demon Lord's son was needed to stop worse shit, and oh looky, Jumper's ass is not there to help shit.

>>53890170

>You've got seven souls. I've got seven lives,it'll be fun

Don't forget that their souls have souls. They might cheat by using some of those.

>>53890149
Good point. He is a tricky bastard and would totally do that kind of thing.

>>53890308
Right, but now the Demon Lord is weak, so it's not an issue.

>>53890309
Time stops when you leave the jump. Come back later to deal with it.

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Is he wrong, /jc/?

>>53890229
You say you aren't the Ebon Dragon but you are actively pushing suspicious goals/ideas on the late chain jumper with the worst judgement. This is a little bit suspicious and something the Ebon Dragon is known to do.

>>53890358
I'm not a Fate fan what message was he using to make everyone immortal and happy? Because if he wasn't hurting anybody to do it It seems all right with me On the other hand, he probably was hurting people to do it because If I'm remembering right. He is Basically the devil

>>53890309
Do you have a point? What if that Demon Lord's son is just inherits his uncrippled father's legacy after jumper leaves, or aids him in furthering his reign? What if he kills the actual hero? Are you saying that the jumper should just do nothing because a contrived scenario /might/ happen? Most worlds don't run on cliches and tropes. And in most cases, an army could fill in as an adequate substitute for the hero anyway.

>>53890358
Summary sounds pretty legit. What's his methodology like?

>>53890065
>really messed me up in so many ways that day,you don't even know!

How? He was obviously fucking with you the entire time. Besides how does someone making a joke about torturegenocide hurt you?

>>53890309
Obviously the jumper needs to mantle the Demon Lord and make a better son.

>>53890331
>tricky bastard
*Thought you were talking about me*
*perks up, and then reads again*
*is disappoint. And feels like he is getting cheated on. Normally likes Neotare.*
*le dragon pout*

>>53890358
He was right. If people die then their suffering comes to an end. Eternal life for everyone. No escape from their doom!

>>53890395
Eh.
*sweatdrops, reaches to one side*
*puts on fake glasses and mustache*
Senior, I have no idea what you talking about. I am just an innocent salamander trying to make a living.

>>53890432
Bancho can't differentiate trolling from honesty most of the time, so confirmation bias lead him to believe that everyone except the Ebon Dragon was fucking with him, and he was right all along. Take that, then consider that he puts more trust in the thread than he does in his actual, professional therapist.

>>53890358
Yes, because he's incredibly vague about what he means when he says he wants to save everyone, which combined with his ruthless measures leads to people mistrusting him. Even with lie-detecting magic verifying that he's sincere, it still leaves the possibility that he's just crazy. So he's wrong, because of course people are going to oppose you when you do this seemingly evil stuff and never properly explain yourself.

>>53890466
yeah >>53890331 was totally supposed to be a reply to>>53890313

>>53890358
Took to long to explain it, therefore he is wrong

>>53890358

Under sane conditions not really. At least as long as it doesn't require some screwed up stuff.

However in context technically maybe since if humanity becomes stagnant the timeline ends even if it's do to a utopia. Which would result in the entire thing failing horribly if the immortality results in nobody doing anything. So at minimum its technically wrong in the 'no that doesn't work' sense. At least unless they can deal with that issue.

They are however right about the whole 'the world is a big, messy ball of wrong' part.

>>53890528
That literally takes 3 seconds to read. Are you just really slow at reading or something?

>>53890528
What would a redditor known for powergrab jumps know?

>>53890488
I feel comfortable doing this again only because I know Bancho is now completely aware that I'm just playing around. If I had any doubts, I'd stop.
Seriously though, does anyone know why he's ignoring his own therapist's advice and keeping coming here. I mean I like that he's here, I like Bancho, which is why I play about with him, but it doesn't seem wise to ignore your therapist's advice without really good reason. So anyone know?

>>53890525
Bancho-kun, statements of the obvious? Just to get my attention? Oh, you flatterer you. *draconic giggle of insidious delight*
Domn't worry. You don't need to try to get my attention, Bancho. Just be yourself.
Show us your groinsaw, would you dear?
I was thinking of having one commissioned from Ligier for myself. Can you imagine a dragon-scaled groinsaw, Bancho?

>>53890573
Anything longer than 0.04 microseconds makes you an idiot.

>>53890579
I know what I know and I don't know what I don't

>>53890657
>Anything longer than 0.04 microseconds makes you an idiot.
I guess that means your jumps also fall under that category.

>>53890669
Mmm, sick burn. I must take notes...

>>53890657
Please just leave. We don't need your "jumps" to set a precedent that Generics can be used to just to grab things from specific settings. The thread seems to be in consensus on this point.

>>53890669
Never said I wasn't an idiot too

>>53890715
1. I've seen no such consensus, only mixed opinions.
2. You'll be happy to know I'm not working on Generic Isekai anymore and am dropping it altogether

>>53890748
You do realize that's the shitposter, right? He used the exact same bait against like two other people last night.

>>53890715
>The thread seems to be in consensus on this point.
Kakakaka. Consensus. *dragonic laughter, turning into hysterical noise*
Ah, nice try. But you're just a one-hit wonder. Be a bit more original next time, for this master has standards for his humour.

>>53890748
>I'm not working on Generic Isekai anymore and am dropping it altogether
Why? I saw your WIP of it and it looked fine.

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>>53890627
>I feel comfortable doing this again only because I know Bancho is now completely aware that I'm just playing around.

I didn't on that last time and a lot of the work I put in towards Fixing my reputation and being a better person got wasted.

>If I had any doubts, I'd stop.

no you wouldn't, You're obviously the Ebon Dragon


>Seriously though, does anyone know why he's ignoring his own therapist's advice and keeping coming here. I mean I like that he's here, I like Bancho, which is why I play about with him, but it doesn't seem wise to ignore your therapist's advice without really good reason. So anyone know?

because for a long time This is been the only thing that gets me through the day,it's the only hobby engaging enough that I can access cheaply and regularly enough to keep my mind off of how horrible I and my life Are.

>Bancho-kun, statements of the obvious? Just to get my attention? Oh, you flatterer you. *draconic giggle of insidious delight*

I respect that this is a RP for you so I'm trying to Do the basic politeness thing.

>Show us your groinsaw, would you dear?

here is a very rare Picture of one of my adoptive fathers Bestowing it to me,oh you forgot it's composed of many different items merged together?

>I was thinking of having one commissioned from Ligier for myself. Can you imagine a dragon-scaled groinsaw, Bancho?

aren't you like the smallest of The Yozi?
it probably won't be much bigger than a skyscraper and just look like you're compensating for something.

Reminder that best Ebon Dragon is the Ebeli Quest version.

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/ebeli-quest-how-to-manage-your-plot-devices-and-save-creation.35222/page-4#post-7650454

Also, his Suntarankal is Pai Mei, and it's beautiful.

>>53890792
I haven't been enjoying making it like I had with other jumps, to be honest.

>>53890836
>Ebeli Quest Ebon Dragon is Abridged Alucard
Amazing.

>>53890799

>You're obviously the Ebon Dragon

Not then, but there's something I thought I should mention. This looks like you're implying that you think an entity from a tabletop rpg game managed to somehow reach past the fourth wall to post on 4chan for the sole purpose of causing problems for you.

>>53890914
He's even better in the Malfeas arc.

>>53890935
Maybe he's roleplaying his jumper again.

So I've recently picked up an Aztec Rex from the Lost Valley of the Dinosaurs, and now I'm decidedly interested in making sure my new pet dinosaur can keep up with me. However, it's not a Companion.

Where can I find imports and things to help me keep him in tip-top shape?

Also, wot's a good name, ya fink?

>>53890970
Akame ga Kill. There's a little-used import option there to make your Teigu / Imperial Arms a living creature.

>>53890799
>You're obviously the Ebon Dragon
Welp, you've got me there. Or do you? *looks to trip* *gently paws fake mustache and glasses*

>This is been the only thing that gets me through the day,
Fair enough. All succumb to doom and despair, these little hopes just make it all the sharperwhen it comes.

>Do the basic politeness thing.
Decent of you. Son, i am disappoint,

>one of my adoptive fathers Bestowing it to me
That's heartwarming. I feel ill.

>it's composed of many different items merged together?
I don't think I ever knew. Or cared especially. That said I should mention it to Ligier. Will he charge me more for a gestalt item? Do I need to revist my taxes? Erembour, get over here...

>just look like you're compensating for something.
*shot through the heart*
Bancho! Why? It's.. it's not smaller than the others, I swear. And a skyscraper is pretty damned big in any case.
Sol-dammit, people pay money for tiny plastic shapes resembling my maleness. Tiny ones!
Wait a minute! Are you acknowlegding that the groinsaw is something used to compensate for an inadequate manhood?
As the person who invented the idea, doesn't that say more about you than me.

>>53890935
Haven't I? I mean, yes, of course, that is ridiculous. I am obviously just a normal meatbag posting from one your human caculators on the interweb. Not the real, not.Ebon Dragon at all.
Fools, you'll believe anything. *draconic chuckling*

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>>53887895
Ackerman

>>53890842
Well, that's a shame. Hopefully someone picks it up someday.

>>53891023
Time to give this boy some Evolution then.

>>53891026

>Haven't I? I mean, yes, of course, that is ridiculous. I am obviously just a normal meatbag posting from one your human caculators on the interweb. Not the real, not.Ebon Dragon at all.
>Fools, you'll believe anything. *draconic chuckling*

Hypothetically if you are the Ebon Dragon you gaining access to dimensional travel to a world where your fictional for the sole purpose of trolling Bancho seems less likely than Exalted Third Edition getting finished within a reasonable time frame.

Which is already really unlikely. Like if you were the Ebon Dragon I'd have an easier time believing that you developed dimensional travel to screw with White Wolf.

>>53890799
>I didn't on that last time and a lot of the work I put in towards Fixing my reputation and being a better person got wasted.
To be perfectly honest, bancho. At least from my point of view, it improved things. I had no idea personally you laboured under the challenges you do and misattributed comments you made in the past to mean spiritedness or found just plain confusing.
The whole episode with the Ebon Dragon, when it became clear despite how obvious it seemed that you weren't just playing along but were honestly taken in by the RP, that was a wake-up call.
No one likes to flaunt their limitations and it could be unfair to demand full disclosure, but now that I know, I can treat you a lot more fairly than I would have otherwise.
I can't speak for others, but maybe some other people who frequent this thread made the same realisation. I hope this helps.

>>53890970
Shin Megami Tensei has a pet import to turn a pet into a demon thingy.

>>53890799
Bancho-Anon you still on? I got a question about the Infinicon Jump.

With Man Your Battlestations that supercomputer is as good as the local mundane supercomputers right? Even if I want it to be a laptop or something?

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Jump 91: Persona 5
Origin: Joker
Persona: I. Magician - Merlin
Perks:
Gentleman Thief
Masked Thief [1900]
Friends and Confidants [1800] - DECADE INTENSIFIES.
Do You Believe in the Phantom Thieves? [1600]
The Fool [1300]
"You are a slave. Want Emancipation?" [800]

Items:
Social Link Tablet
Metaverse Navigator App [500]
Unlimited Supply of Calling Cards [400]
Collection of Outfits [350]
Soundtrack [300]
Velvet Room [0]

Drawbacks:
Freedom And Security [1800]
Looking Cool, Jumper! [1900]
NASTY CRIMEJUMPER [2000]

Something's wrong. This world is absolutely rotten to the core and I can already feel the pressure of a great power bearing down on me. My existence is sustained by Living Miracle, but I can still feel a sinking feeling in my stomach that no one believes in me. But that's not what's causing me distress. What is bothering me is that this is the fourth time in a row the world has gone to full 'going to kill you dead' mode.

Someone is stacking the deck. I'm either being tested or a certain someone is back for round two. Either way, it looks like I'm mostly on my own for this one, aside from that voice in my head that compliments bloody EVERYTHING I DO.

It's an uphill battle against a deific force, but I'm no stranger to those by now. I have Hearts to steal and battles to fight. It's…straightforward, compared to how I usually operate. If it takes the Destroyer of Worlds to break this corrupt world to bring forth daylight, then I know just how to do it.

Also, it's pretty easy to hide my identity. That transformation from Sailor Moon and Twin-Faced Hero let me do a good job of separating my civilian persona from my 'heroic' one. I'm not a very good Thief, honestly, but what I can be is a fang for the fangless. And I will fight my way into this demiurge's lair and be the one to deliver the final blow.

Even if there is no God or Buddha in this world, there is Kamen Rider. And they're also a magical girl. So you're basically fucked.

>>53891210

If he's the Ebon dragon he's perfectly capable of screwing with many people simultaniously.

>>53891210
Consider: If I was the Ebon Dragon, which I totally am not, look at my trip. And I did gain the ability to traverse or interact with other dimensions. What greater betrayal of my fellow yozi and myself then not only to not use it but also to trivialise something that could be used to enable our escape.
It makes perfect sense if you're a backstabbing contrarian dick.

Reminder that everything is Decades fault. Including how the Ebon Dragon found us and 4chan.

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>>53891374
I HAVEN'T EVEN JUMPED INFERNALS YET COME ON

>>53891023
Imports aren't available for Organism type Imperial Arms.

>>53891415
...

Welp. Nevermind then. That's a bit fucking stupid but oh well.

>>53891406
>YET
You will, and that will allow for Ted to find us retroactively.

>>53890755
It doesn't matter since the shitposter won anyway. The jump is dead, don't bother defending something that's never going to happen.

>>53890970
if memory serves generic Xianxia has a pet import option that makes your critter a cultivator,that should help plenty.

>>53891026
>Wait a minute! Are you acknowlegding that the groinsaw is something used to compensate for an inadequate manhood?
And you call yourself an edgelord When you have no knowledge of the greatest EdgeLord of all time "HARRY POTTER" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V4VxlsMuQ4

but no, I mainly use it to compensate for having a hyperactive libido and only one person I can use it on, hence it is loaded with the sex Gaiamemory.


>As the person who invented the idea, doesn't that say more about you than me.

you flatter me but I cannot claim credit for that idea,it belongs to Secondpillow

>>53891288
no, it upgrades into whatever the local mundane super computer is it doesn't take a specific form, so it starts out as a mundane supercomputer for Infinicon and then becomes a better mundane and supercomputer for the local technology of the most technologically advanced jump you been to afterwords is if you go somewhere really advanced where the local equivalent of a supercomputer is the size of a laptop. It will be a laptop but Unless you do it will not be a laptop.

>>53891415
The fuck's up with that, anyway? Seems kind've arbitrary - just restrict you from importing a Companion as an Organism Taigu and boom. Not a big problem.

>>53891293
They can't stop you from stealing it if they're all dead.

>>53890748
>2. You'll be happy to know I'm not working on Generic Isekai anymore and am dropping it altogether
Thank you. I've always said that I'd be interesting in more Isekai style jumps; you just need to find an actual IP so you don't have to create OC from whole cloth. You gravitate toward broken perks, so having something from a setting to keep you focused will help.

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>>53891562
I mean the only person I plan on personally breaking over my knee is Yabbadabbadoo. The rest are just being subdued or having Hearts stolen.

Yes I know that's not how his name is spelled but I like mine better.

>>53891564
>you just need to find an actual IP so you don't have to create OC from whole cloth.
Honestly, I wish we could all agree to not make any Isekai jumps until a generic is made just to fucking spite you.

>>53891564
Nice attempt to hide your identity..

>>53891485
>I think I finally won at something in my useless life, let me have it! Don't take it from me! I NEED this!
Umm, yes, more desperation, please. More neediness that shall never be fulfilled.

>>53891509
>edgelord
Please, bancho-kun, I am no mere 'edgelord' I am the freaking cliff the edge sits upon. I am the Ebon Dragon *looks at trip, coughs sheepishly* or rather, I am the not.Ebon Dragon.

>>53891509
>for having a hyperactive libido and only one person I can use it on, hence it is loaded with the sex Gaiamemory.
I have so many questions I know I don't want answers to, so I shall just betray my curiousity and keep as silent as the shadow of all things.

>flatter
Okay, if you want to take it as such.
>Secondpillow
I have now heard the true name of Evil. It's both excites and disgusts me.

>>53891562
Bravo. It is so rare to such wisdom in the world. You have my approval.

>>53891030
Is that the Power Glove?

>>53891564
I'm much happier focusing on Lazy Dungeon Master, which is an isekai. Plenty to stay focused on, still kinda broken though.

>>53891662
Man it's like you refuse to learn to recognize bait.

>>53891564
>Thank you.
Wow. And I thought I was a complete prick. I should take notes from you. Despite being a mortal you have actually managed to surpass me in being an utter insufferable ass.
I must know your secrets! There can only be one!

>>53890748
Could you post what you have and give permission for someone else to use it?

Do end-jumps matter anymore?

>>53891702
Do they matter to you? If so, then yes. If not, then no.

That goes for every individual here. It's up to you if they're a big deal.

>>53891662
This >>53891686 , for example, is bait.

So jc i need your memory

what are perks/jumps with hivemind options/ help with being a hivemind?

and yes this was inspired be the new stellaris jump

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>>53891676
Is it really bait though? Bait usually isn't supportive

>>53891686
Yeah sure, this is what I have. I don't think it's changed since I last posted it, though. If anyone wants to use it as a base, go ahead.

>>53891662
For a creative endeavor like this, your enthusiasm is a pretty good guide. So if you're able to get more enthusiasm to work on LDM, then you should put your time there. Sure, there's something to be said for pushing through something even if you aren't in the mood but that's more for things you're trying to get better at. If this is just a fun past-time, then do stuff that makes you happy.

Anyway, thanks for listening to the feedback and I'm looking forward to LDM.

>>53891702
No, the never did. There is no escape from the jumpchain, only a constant series of escalating threats and disappointment.
Ennui shall grind you down over numerous worlds.
All the is left is a shallow husk that shall admit defeat and be sent home, broken but wealthy.
And I shall laugh and laugh and laugh.

>>53891748
Libriomancer has one.

>>53891662
Can we have a inanimate object race option? I would like to be a ring.

>>53891754
Yes, because if you'll notice, he's insulting you the same way the shitposter is by saying all your perks are broken. He's simply trying to reinforce what his shitposting bought him.

>>53891738
Choke on glass.

>>53891754
so what ARE you working on right now?

>>53891754
it's not bait, It's the shitposter celebrating that were not getting a jump the less jumps, we get the quicker the thread dies

>>53891702
Nope. They should have never mattered to begin with.

>>53891773
Your despair game could use some work, ya know. I mean, I didn't even start feeling uncomfortably itchy.

>>53891702
I like jumps with optional end modes.

>>53891781
See here
>>53891662

>>53891809
>optional end modes

Just weak excuses to block off content past a wall.

>>53891640
>I have so many questions I know I don't want answers to, so I shall just betray my curiousity and keep as silent as the shadow of all things.

if I tell you and upset you. I betray myself if I don't tell you I go along with your goals this is why everyone hates you Ebon Dragon!

>>53891773
Man, the Exalted wank in these threads. TED isn't even that interesting of a villain, all things considered.

>>53891836
Not if it is just a "this can be an end jump" blurb

>>53891754
It's sad to see you drop this, but I'm sure you have your reasons. Hopefully someone will pick it up and make a full-fledged jump out of it.
I can sympathise about a lack of motivation, when making my own jumps, it was only that sense of motivation that pushed me forward, otherwise I may not have finished.
I'm not familiar with the jump you are making now, but I look forward to it all the same. Thanks.

>>53891748
Zerg route
Half-life

Could you use the multiple post chain whishes you can obtain to return to the chain if you died?

>>53891873
Fanwank.

>>53891754
>If anyone wants to use it as a base, go ahead.
Thank you. This is a decent amount of headway, with a little bit of time and effort it could probably be finished today, maybe tomorrow. I don't feel a hundred percent confident to do it myself because I'm not completely caught up on many Isekai myself, otherwise I'd do it.

>>53891873
Up to you and how you fluff Jump-chan. I'd go with yes.

>>53891748
I think Alpha Centauri And eclipse phase are some good options that haven't been mentioned yet
>>53891873
to my knowledge, those are all post spark wishes rather than post chain

>>53891803
>>53891845
*sad violin music plays as the dragon looks stoically into the distance*
*a single tear drops from his eye*
*some unlucky soul gets crushed by the sudden rush of water*
*the dragon cheers up and smiles*

>>53891838
Lose-lose. That's a game I'd love everyone to play. Oh, wait, they already are. It's called Life.
*Kakakakaka*

>>53891660
>Is that the Power Glove?

From the two Captain N and SNES jumps

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>>53891509
Cool beans thanks for the info. Got confused by the whole:
>it's a high school's old computer lab klug'd together into one box, or even a few server racks filled with cray computers that”fell off the back of a truck”
part and was asking just in case that meant that we could customize the things appearance. My current most advanced tech comes from.... hrm.

R-Type, Blazeblue, Generator Rex, Megaman Zero, or The Polity I think. Each of those has a 'weird' science specialty though so I'm not sure which one is the best. Do I just mix and match the stuff?

With the tech upgrades from those places what do you, and /JC as a whole, think I could pull? Also I'm starting off with a Sunway TaihuLight (Pic Related) by the way.

>>53889811
>Precedent is never a good argument
I know! Why 1,000 CP?
9,000 CP for every jump!

>>53891748
The new version of the Bio-Communication perk in the Symbiote update lets you share the effects of mental perks with other symbiote pairs.

>>53891949
Yeesss.

>>53891640
>Bravo. It is so rare to such wisdom in the world. You have my approval.
I see it more as Malfean style larceny then Ebon Dragon style really.

>>53891924
>left your name on
It was you, this whole time?

>>53891924
Gaze upon my writefag and despiar. Not.Ebon Dragon, did I catch you just right?
I might try to RP myself as one of the other Yozi

>>53891924
>Brother anon was The Ebon Dragon all along
Are you also the annoying action poster guy?

>>53891949
>9,000 CP for every jump!
Just as long as it's not OVER 9000.
That would be too much.

>>53891932
>Alpha Centauri Jumpchain

It's a legitimate supercomputer set up,you can customize its appearance/manifestation but you generally can't fit a legitimate supercomputer into a laptop

>R-Type, Blazeblue, Generator Rex, Megaman Zero, or The Polity I think. Each of those has a 'weird' science specialty though so I'm not sure which one is the best. Do I just mix and match the stuff?

no, the most powerful computing hardware takes priority. The files and such transfer over, but the hardware is replaced with the most powerful one of those, it will not even update for world with less powerful supercomputers. given How little I know about most of those settings I can't even rightly say which one will take priority

>a Sunway TaihuLight

I'm going to have to put a Kibosh on that,you're talking about the greatest supercomputer in the world rather than anything close to anything I mentioned in the benchmarks,aim for something more midrange.

>>53892040
Try something that's in mass production,or that can be Cobbled together with street level stuff it's why I mentioned Cray in the description

Bakas. All of you bakas.

>>53891990
So long as people get screwed over, I don't care too much about the how.

>>53892006
Very good, but you probably should have said that in the same post, as it's resulted in some confusion.
see >>53892005
and >>53892012

Unless... you haven't learned a certain Cosmic Principle, have you?

Sorry, I'm taking so long. Captcha is acting like I designed it.

>>53891918
Hey bancho why don't you tell us all about your fetishes?

It's been too long.

Where can I get massive amounts of moose limbs?

>>53892147
Why moose limbs? What's so special about moose limbs?

>>53892143
NO.

>>53891918

Don't fall for his bait bancho

The Yozi(Besides EB) aren't evil, the Incarne are. Prove me wrong. You can't.

>>53892171
Because with moose limbs I can make a real engine of peace that will burn my enemies for thinking wrong things.

>>53892142
Yeah, my mistake. Sorry.

>>53892143
Please don't ask for something you'll know none of us really want. No offence to bancho.

>>53892147
This is the most random question I've ever seen here. Why would you need them in the first place?
But to answer, probably cloning. Lots of it to meet your need. You don't need to clone the whole animal either, depending on your method.

>>53892143
>Gobernando

what the hell kind of name is that?!


>>53892190
wasn't planning on it

>>53891949
If you offer 15000, 20000 CP worth of choices, 9000 CP isn't bad.

>>53892214
>Why would you need them in the first place?

See >>53892203

>>53892201
>Prove me wrong
You're right, I can't. Reclamation for life I guess?

>>53892147
just go to supreme commander and 3-D print all the moose limbs you want,if they can 3-D print a fire breathing cyborg T Rex, they can 3-D print all the moose limbs you can imagine

The Grass Sword from Adventure Time. How 'demonically sharp' is it?

>>53892277
Yeesss. Come to the Dark Side. We have demon hookers and cocaine dinosaurs.

>>53892201
Bring Theion back! Make Creation Great Again!

>>53892317
>cocaine dinosaurs.
In the spirit of full disclosure, you should probably mention the cocain is generated and released as urine.

Where do the Primordials come from? Like, naturally? I want to be able to make my own.

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>>53892040
>>53892070
Again no problem. I'll have to go researching on it, because all I know is that the Sunway was the one that came up when I typed Supercomputers into the Google bar. Sorry for just picking a name out of a hat there. Also neat the first prototype exascale computer, machine capable of making a billion billion calculations per second, is apparently in the works right now IRL Truly, the digital age is still alive.

From what I can find you're saying more along the lines of Blue Gene/L, the first generation (2004 - 2006) of the now third generation line of Blue Gene supercomputers, or something that avalable to civilian commerce right?

>>53892404
>From what I can find you're saying more along the lines of Blue Gene/L, the first generation (2004 - 2006) of the now third generation line of Blue Gene supercomputers, or something that avalable to civilian commerce right?


yeah pretty much,go ahead with something like that.

>>53892338
Funnily enough, he would probably be able to solve just about every problem Creation has, especially if he can get the celestial exalted on side, or even just a decent sized group of them.

>>53892394
From Pure Chaos.
>making your own
Good luck, anon.

>>53892201
The question was never whether they were evil. The question was whether they were harmful. And they are. Creation could barely survive the Primordials, it will not survive their more bitter and angry forms as the Yozi.

>>53892394
They were Raksha who decided to get behind the trendy new concepts of "linear time" and "cause and effect."

>>53892394
No one's sure. One day Cytherea, the Primordial Ignition, just woke up in the middle of the Deep Wyld. Her flames awoke the rest of her siblings, but none of them remember being created, or know how they came to be. One of them, Oramus, didn't come from the Wyld at all but somewhere else that he can't properly explain to anyone.

>>53892460
Not true. That was only ever hinted at in 1st Edition, and is flat-out wrong in the 2nd Edition books that our jumps are based on.

>>53892460
No, sorry, the Primordials and the Raksha were both born from the Pure Chaos but were qualitatively different right from the start.
They are related though and would be a good starting point for someone to make an artifical primodrial or study how to make one spontaneously out fo the Pure Chaos.

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>>53892432
Alrighty then. Still it's compelling to see the things like the Sunway, though the Tiny Titan https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/build-your-own-tiny-titan-supercomputer-for-less-than-a-grand is also interesting from an IRL standpoint.

>>53892449
>The question was whether they were harmful. And they are.
Because the Gods and the Exalts that they created attacked them and mutilated their souls into shadows of their former selves? All out of selfish motivations which ultimately harmed more people than it helped, and damaged Creation in ways that would never be fixed?

>>53892394
Create your own with the First Magic. Might need a a few billion years to learn how to do that, but there are enough perks to vastly decrease that time.

>>53892521
Indeed, it is still going to be a supercomputer just The equivalent of a mass-produced civilian one rather than the greatest in the world. I do have to come down hard on benchmarks like that and I'm sorry if I screw off any plans

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What option do we choose in mobile jump gundam for a Iron Blooded Orphans gundam frame that is not Barbatos? Like Bael or Gusion?

>>53892552
They were already harming Creation. And the ones who damaged Creation during the war were the Primordials themselves. Three Spheres Cataclysm, remember? 90% of reality gone because She Who Lives In Her Name threw a tantrum about nobody trusting her.

>>53892589
They're all shit, anon. IBO Gundams are terrible. But if you really have to buy one, for whatever insane reason, I'd go with Vidar. It's a sexy beast.

>>53892632
I mean which suit option do I pick when buying it? Protagonist? Prototype? that sort of thing.

>>53892569
Nah just was wondering what I had to work with. Still upgrading the software with my Generic Video Game Designer Capstone Boosted self-updating software and keeping it running for decades may have done some odd things.

>>53891990
Well yeah. It's like how Malfean Stealth is "they can't spot you if they're blibded by your RADIOACTIVE GREEN HATEFIRE"

>>53892678
Oh. Probably Limited-Production, then. The Gundam Frames were mass produced, and then each pilot made their own specific customizations.

>>53891587
In dxd, is a angel/devil hybrid possible?

>>53892607
Any damage done in an act of retaliation is the fault of the aggressor, so no, that's the Incarne's and Exalt's fault. The Primordials did not start the war. Whether they were 'harming' Creation or not doesn't really matter, because it is not significantly better off after a regime change for anyone who isn't a part of that regime, and the Primordials made Creation in the first place. Everything wrong with Creation is the Incarne's and Exalted's fault.

>>53892513
>They are related though and would be a good starting point for someone to make an artifical primodrial or study how to make one spontaneously out from the Pure Chaos.
How does one acquire Pure Chaos that can be carried between jumps?

>>53892607
Sounds like victim-blaming to me. They started the war, all the concequences of it are on the head of the Incarne and the Exalts. The Primordials may have had their faults, but given how capable exalts are at social combat, they could have choosen another way, using social combat against the primodrials to get them to be more considerate and to value lesser life, instead they went straight to war.
Although I blame the Incarne more than the Exalts at least at the start of the war given how the Incarne would be their primary sources of information about the primordials as well as the planners for the inital stages at least.

>>53892743
Agreed. Also, how much harm do we 'know' they did to creation before the war? It's always sounded like war-time propganda or post-war rationalising to me that they were somehow so terrible that they 'had to be stopped'.

>>53892780
A protoshinmatic vortex is your best bet depending on how you look at it. You may also be able to use Convergence of Principles to make Pure Chaos, I'm not too sure on that.

>>53892743
Only if the damage is proportionate, anon. If I invade your nation and in response you nuke mine to radioactive embers, you're the asshole. And Creation was objectively better off after the regime change, quality of life was better than it is in modern first-world countries of our universe. It's not better off now, but that's because there have been two other regime changes since, and both of those were handled horribly. And the reason they were handled horribly was because of the Great Curse messing with peoples' brains, and whose fault is that again? Oh right, the Primordials.

>>53892521
In the “Kyon?” drawback for Haruhi Suzumiya, can Anti-madness perks like EVO’s Light of Eden or One Bad Day from BTAS help Haruhi at all, or is that only possible post-jump?

>>53892832
>whose fault is that again?
The Neverborn, who are the fault of the Exalted and Incarnae?

Do we have a Legend of the Five Rings jump?
And if not, why not?

How would one go about restoring the Yozi's Fetich souls? Would that even be a good move, assuming you could do it?

>>53892832
We have no idea what the quality of life was before the Primodrial war, it could have been as good or better.
The rest, well there is plenty of blame to spread around, the Primdorials/Yozi/Neverborn are no more or less responsible than several other factions including the Incarne and Exalts.

>The Great Curse
It is a little unfair to blame someone for the long-term concequences of their dying curse. They didn't ask to die and any being that is mudered is going to have no good will towards their murderers, most just don't have the ability to curse their murderers is all.

>>53892897
Exactly.

>>53892716
Thank you anon.

>>53892832
That's bullshit though. The regime change wasn't good for anyone who wasn't an Exalt or a God, just because their quality of life was high doesn't actually mean things got so much better for the layman humans or any of the other races in creation; in fact, for everyone that wasn't human, it got worse, as the shitty humans that were at the bottom of the totem pole before now used their new found position of power to oppress all the other races even worse.

>>53892921
No. Because you haven't made it yet.

>>53892826
>Sounds like victim-blaming to me. They started the war, all the concequences of it are on the head of the Incarne and the Exalts.
No, the consequences of someone destroying 90% of the world are on the person who DESTROYED 90% OF THE WORLD.

>Sounds like victim-blaming to me. They started the war, all the concequences of it are on the head of the Incarne and the Exalts.
No, they really couldn't have. Primordials have fixed Intimacies. You can't convince a Primordial of the value of human life if they have an Intimacy of "Humans (Fun Toys To Play With)". You'd have to kill the Third Circle Demon responsible for reinforcing that Intimacy, so yeah, violence was the only option. And that's not even taking into account Primordial Charms that keep them from responding to social interaction they don't like. Kimberry has a charm that makes her incapable of forgiveness, for example.

>>53892897
The Neverborn are the ghosts of Primordials, anon. Primordials who, as they were dying, shouted "FUCK YOU" at the Exalted so hard it changed their nature to be self-defeating. The Neverborn came later, after the Exalted woke up those ghosts.

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>>53892864
They might help if they're more along the lines of 'Therapy but as a perk' and not 'cleanses the soul of insanity' basically she's emotionally damaged has tons of baggage and could so think more Frankin Fran Therapy Perks and less Anti-Demon Wavelength.

>>53892923
>Would that even be a good move, assuming you could do it?
Not really, they've long-since replace them.

At best, they'd be dislocated from their Yozi and independent. At worst, suddenly having two Fetichs (without even being able to support them) is going to wreak havok on their already-insane mental states.

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>>53892607
>Three Spheres Cataclysm
That happened after the war. When SWLiHN surrendered and begged the Incarnae to take her as an underling rather than imprison her inside of the mutilated shell of her beloved onii-chan's asshole. They're the ones who fucked up there.

>>53892975
So how would one go about healing the Yozi?

>>53892924
>We have no idea what the quality of life was before the Primodrial war, it could have been as good or better.
Uh yeah, we do. Humans were a slave race created to be weak and powerless so their fear would lead them to pray and create fuel for the gods. It's only after the Primordial War that humans had anything approaching enough power to bargain with the gods instead of being their cattle. And it's the Incarnae who made that possible.

>>53892939
The Exalted killed off two pre-human races: The Alaun and the pureblooded Lintha. Both of them are assholes and deserved to die.

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>>53892942
But I don't know shit about L5R except crabs are bros.

>>53892203
Okay Canada, go back to the syrup mines. You should know by now that you shouldn't leave your containment zone.

>>53892832
>and whose fault is that again?
The Ebon Dragon, because when he was the Dragon's Shadow he invented it and taught it to the other Primordials. In typical Ebon Dragon fashion, it fucked over the Primordials just as bad. Chances are the attachment to reality granted by them dwelling on their hatred through the curse is part of why they're still stuck there as Neverborn.

>>53892992
Right. She lost, then she cravenly attempted to betray her king in order to stay free, then was told that she would face the same punishment as the rest of her side and in response killed 90% OF REALITY. Because she's a horrid little thing that can't cope with losing, and would rather see the world burn than accept it. She's not evil, but that's because she doesn't have the moral capacity to be good, either.

>>53892939
That's not even true, quality of life for regular humans was better under the Solar Deliberative until they went insane.

>>53892201

Technically depending on your pov this might be wrong.

The Ebon Dragon's ultimate goal is to become a Shinma. Shinma define fundamental aspects of reality by lacking those aspects. For example the shinma of existence does not exist and the shinma of identity has no identity.

Meanwhile the Ebon Dragon is metaphysically a traitorous backstabbing jerk best described as the principle of pointless spite. Now their plan for becoming a shinma is probably to make reality a worse place. but shinma define things by lacking them. Which means that the most likely result of this plan succeeding is reality objectively becoming a better place for everyone in spite of their goal to ruin everything.

Does that count?

Oh also when the Maidens look into the future
Samsara makes it literally impossible for them to not do what they saw. Regardless of if they want to or not. Which means they might have an excuse.

>>53893003
Work with the souls that are there now, instead of millenia-dead ones.

Selectively cull the destructive/maddening ones, give therapy to/lightly modify those that can be healed, and leave those that are fine/helpful (like Amalion).

And possibly make custom charms for the Yozi directly.

>>53892921
Not to my knowledge. Because someone hasn't made it yet. Are you volunteering, anon?

>>53892923
Who knows. Restoring Malfeas lost fetisch soul would probably help him a lot towards becoming more like Theion, but it would only be one of many things he'd need. Regarding the others, maybe.
In terms of how you'd do it, any out of context resurrection ability has as mcuh chance of success as any. Ressurrection isn't a thing in setting, so it depends.

>>53892939
That does seem to happen to the Dragon-kings and the Jadeborn, both of which had things better before the War.
The Dragon Kings even suffered a lot from the war and despite being on the Exalts side weren't helped at all in recovering. At least, as i remember.

>>53892949
All I hear despite you starting with that they couldn't have, is that it would have been difficult. More difficult than fighitng an open war with them? Also regarding those charms, Solars have charms too and it's not as though a clever person can't work around them.

>>53892949
>shouted "FUCK YOU" at the Exalted so hard it changed their nature to be self-defeating.
No. Where even are you getting this?
They didn't change their nature, they gave them a curse disguised as a blessing for venting stress, than had an accumulated effect on the Exalts distorting them over time into twisted people, and even then not all of them.

>>53892992
Put that way, it's almost as if they wanted her to do it. Shouldn't she have been restrained or under guard at the time? Considering that the Exalts had difficulty in managing the resulting Creation I have to wonder if they wanted it downsized but didn't want to be blamed for it, so put her in that position knowing what would happen. Something to ponder.

>>53893059
I don't see how it's an act of betrayal of Theion, who was already dead at that point. She wanted to continue her job of preserving and essentially working as a sysadmin for Creation. Not to help the Incarnae attack or hurt her siblings. Hell, part of the reason she and Cecelyne surrendered was because they hoped it'd convince the Incarnae to negotiate instead of killing everyone.

Hey /JC/ can you cretae companions in Darksiders ?

>>53893059
Right. And that's not the fault of the people who instigated the war in the first place how? You don't get to absolve yourself of the consequences of your actions. If you pick a fight with a brown bear, deliberately antagonizing it because you think you can, how the fuck is it not your fault for getting mauled regardless of whether or not it you survive or somehow beat it? It doesn't become the bear's fault for attacking you retroactively because you won the fight, you were the one that started it, it's your fucking fault. You sound like one of those Xianxia villains that responds to someone defending themselves with 'how dare you!?' it comes off as egotistical.

Are there any perks that allow you to grow more quickly in conflict? Not temporary boosts like that Space Marine capstone in the Imperium jump, but more like increased learning and development speed.

>>53893077
I thought he was pissy because of there being a shinma that defined reality as a place where heroism makes things better, and he is a faggot and wants one that makes being a jackass beneficial on a metaphysical level.

>>53892780
Maybe we'll be able to buy one in a Fair Folk jump that will hopefully eventually be coming soon.

>>53892780
Isn't one of the Manses in Infernals connected to something like that? There's also the Witch capstone from Soul Eater.

>>53893015
>Uh yeah, we do. Humans were a slave race created to be weak and powerless so their fear would lead them to pray and create fuel for the gods
This only implies that their quality of life could have been bad, it doesn't say anything definitive.

>It's only after the Primordial War that humans had anything approaching enough power to bargain with the gods instead of being their cattle. And it's the Incarnae who made that possible.
Whatever else could be said this is true.

>The Alaun and the pureblooded Lintha. Both of them are assholes and deserved to die.
Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't address how they treated the Jadeborn and the Dragon Kings, their allies though, does it.

>>53893045
>The Ebon Dragon, because when he was the Dragon's Shadow he invented it and taught it to the other Primordials
I've never heard this before. Do you have a source, please?

>>53893059
Drive someone mad with terror and extistential dread and then they do somethign crazy; then who's at fault, the person made insane or the person who drove them to it.
Also, remember, she was a prisoner. How could she have done it without them *letting her*.

>>53893077
>Which means they might have an excuse.
Eh, timey wimey. It's enough to give someone a headache.

>>53893118
No civilised country on Earth would treat POWs like the Exalted did to the Yozi, sparing not even those who surrendered and sincerely offered their services.

contd

>>53893243
I think I sepak for everyone when I say we don't need more Exalted.

>>53893103
>The Dragon Kings even suffered a lot from the war and despite being on the Exalts side weren't helped at all in recovering. At least, as i remember.
No, the Dragon Kings flourished after the war and even developed a big Solar fetish. The Sidereals and Dragonblooded specifically had to engineer things to fuck them over so they couldn't help the Solars. And after the usurpation, the Dragon Kings became collectively depressed and refused to have any contact with the Dragonblooded and swore to kill any that stepped into their territory.

>>53893151
If you've got a pod and two consenting adults you can make companions in any jump.

>>53893286
contd

>>53893195
>it comes off as egotistical.
Agreed.
We have no idea if the Primordials truly did anything worth getting bent out of shape over before the war, but we do know that the gods didn't like being ordered around by then, or you know, having to do their jobs.
The gods empowering humans makes sense, but then directing them to war with the Primordials, when it clearly wasn't in the Exalts interests to do so, most of them dying and subsequently being replaced, makes it obvious that the war wasn't about the Primodrials being dicks but the Gods wanting to be in charge. Thankfully that backfired when their empowered humans turned out to be too powerful and replaced the Primodrials as their bosses.
The exalts could have resolved matters between humanity and the Primodrials without war, but didn't.
Imagine a Creation, as it was when it was first made, with the Primodrials as they were working hand in hands with Exalts. They would have made the First Age look like childsplay.

>>53893288
You do not speak for me.

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>>53887460
>Editionless Edition
>How to Jumpchain

>>53893286
>This only implies that their quality of life could have been bad, it doesn't say anything definitive.
Look, I think the Exalted mistreated the Primordials after the war, but I support there being a war in the first place.

We are given descriptions of what human life was like beforehand. It wasn't a happy life, not even remotely.

>>53893288
It's not about "need," anon. It's about greed.

>>53893263
You might be thinking of the Oramus manse, which is connected to Beyond. Pure Chaos is more "everything possible", while that's more "everything not".

Okay, assuming you found a way to create Pure Chaos, how would you study it?
Assuming it produced Raksha, would you learn anything useful from analyzing them, and how would you got about effectively doing that?
And finally, how would you manipulate or influence it to force the generation of Primordials, and would you even need to?

>>53893288
You don't. We need more Exalted. That's not going to change.

>>53893228

That would make sense, but as far as I can tell there is no shinma of 'heroism can make things better'. Which probably explains why that doesn't seem to work at all in Exalted.

From what I remember it's more that the Ebon Dragon is going "You can't tell me what to do.
I'm going to ascend so nobody can tell me what to do". It just so happens that Exalted cosmology is set up so that being a complete jackass is somehow a valid method for attempting this.

Sure they probably want to make things worse, but the Ebon Dragon betrays everything even theirself . So their plan having the exact opposite results of their likely desire seems highly likely.

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I can't find Batman The Animated Series for some reason. Is the drive just screwing up on my end?

>>53893288
You're in denial, Anon. Of course we need more.

>>53893328
Wasn't there a bomb of some sort that reduced their finite number of souls. And that is what the Solars didn't do anything to help with.
I mean, I am assuming theat they could have done something about it, they did have Wyld-shaping, but whether that could create a Dragon King soul I honestly don't know.

>>53893359
>support there being a war in the first place.
And that is what i disagree with.
The Exalt had options, non-violent, or at least non-war options but didn't explore them. Was it their early ineptitude in using their Exalted powers and charms, or was it because the Gods convinced them a war was the only solution?
I lean towards the latter.

Although I guess this is all academic, we don't have a jump that would allow us to go that far back in Creation's history to do anything about it.

>>53893360
Making some rather presumptous assumptions about other people's motivations there, anon. Please don't.

>>53893379
Solars and Infernals have charms to work Pure Chaos; otherwise, yeah, that is going to be a challenge. Good luck anon,

>>53893408
>need
Not to nitpick, but I'd say 'want'.

>>53893442
It's in Unimaged A-M; "DC - Batman the Animated Series Jumpchain"