Wizards are typically older men who squandered their youths in

>>53862808
>guise come discuss my magical realm
No.

or old bitch witches work glamours better then limpdicked wizzards
no magic viagra knowatimsayin?

>>53862854
Stiffus Erectus.

Bam, there it is.

>>53862878

Your penis is still flaccid, but you now command an army of skeletons.

>>53862808

No, they are just more vain. So during their studies they are sure to spend a lot of time learning the magic that keeps them looking young and beautiful.

Old man wizards are completely autistic and thus personal appearance doesn't even register in their minds.

>>53862808
I would say a Dragon who moves into a Dwarf hold is the fantasy equivalent of a gold digger

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Nah mate.
That old wizard turned himself into a young women and decided to live out his sluttish fantasies.

>>53862808

Scantily clad sorceresses are typically lecherous old wizards who transform themselves into beautiful women to confound heroes and get free drinks at taverns.

>>53862808
That's why most sorceresses have background as high end hookers. They know how to please a man so they get picked up as apprentices.

>>53862906
or wizards are more likely to try and lewd the woodland horror or summon a succubus

lets face it theres a lot of bad ends waiting for someone who thinks with his dick

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>>53862956
>>53862985

Pic related is a 97 year old man

>>53863012
Even Merlin couldn't escape this shit.

>>53863012
But that would result in fewer old fogey wizards, not more, since they wouldn't last as long as the lady wizards. (Though I suppose there's enough sexy male monsters out there to pick them off when they think with their genitals. Vampires and stuff.)

>>53863036

Look, if you're an old wizard, let's face it, you're going to end up fucking something weird. Magic user the world over end up fucking weird things all the time in fiction and myth and fantasy. Magic and fucking weird things go hand-in-hand.

So before you pick up your staff and put on your robe and wizard hat, just realize that it's not a matter of if, but when you're going to end up balls deep in a nameless horror from beyond the stars. It's part of the occupation, and any wizard that says otherwise is lying out of shame or in denial that this is what fate holds for them.

I'm sure a bunch of autists will make fun of you for this post but I love this angle. I might put this in my homebrew.

>>53863027
No she's not, that's the girl from Aion

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This sorceress most definitely spread her legs for her master.

>>53862808
Even in the magic industry, men can look however they want but nobody pays attention to a woman caster unless she's got the guns out. That or they just call her a hag.

>>53862808
>Male magic users tend to be old and highly skilled at their craft, enough so that they can impress others with it and teach it to them
>Female magic users tend to be young, sexy and not as good at their craft because they're inexperienced and their teachers probably don't teach them absolutely everything
>Old female magic users are despised by almost everyone because the males don't want to bone them so they're either stealing knowledge from male magic users and/or have set up rogue underground practices that infuriate the patriarchal elites, all the more so because the old female magic users are really good at their craft due to being experienced and under a lot of pressure to survive
>Handsome young men are systematically deprived of magical education because they threaten their instructors sexually. One who actually manages to learn magic is loathed more than any other kind of magic user, and can usually expect to be framed for something by other wizards
>The young female magic users tend to languish in mediocrity once they're no longer that attractive, and they don't always understand why.

This feels like an interesting bit of a world with lots of interesting moral and political questions, but I can only imagine the kind of rage I'd be blasted with if it ever saw the light of day.

>>53862854
Just get into voyeurism/cuckolding. It's the thinking man's fetish, and you're an intelligent and enlightened arcanist.

>>53862808
Has there ever been a story about a mentor banging their apprentice that didn't turn out to be a disaster?

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>>53863675
Jesus fucking christ that's horrible art and I'm 100% giving the boobs a pass here. Look at the rest of her limbs

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>>53863849
....I can't think of one, but I want there to be

>>53863849
My Grandpa and Grandma. He was her instructor.

>>53863983
It failed 999 times before, but this time it'll work!

>>53862895
Makes sense. Ordinary sorceresses don't need negative energy to raise a bone.

>>53863963
>posts ShindoL
>calls anything horrible.
Anon...>>53863983

>>53863963
What a cute girl. I'm sure she has a long and fruitful life ahead of her!

>>53862895
My boner had an army of boners? This worked even better than expected.

>>53862808
Nah, those hot skimpy dressed witches/sorceresses/whatever? Those are women who's ALSO squandered their youths in pursuit of knowledge and magical power
But now that they HAVE power they let vanity take over and turn themselves hot and young

>>53862808
You know it's a magical realm, but it sounds quite possible.

>>53863849
Uprooted by Naomi Novik and maybe Black Magician by Trudi Canavan . Though it does a have its share of different problems.

Actually, genders and spellcasting is quite a complex topic. It really depends on what kind of archetypical template the setting is built around, but for convenience let's limit ourselves to high fantasy.
What's really the outstanding issue is the degree to which magic, nature and the divine discriminates between the two genders. It's very easy to write a Harry Potter-esque setting where there's literally no differance and both men and women are favoured equally, but most fantastical settings are NOT gender neutral. Even the late Sir Pratchett, a very evident feminist, made sure to not contradict the archetype in the Discworld series more than once - only men could be wizards, and only women could be witches, because that's just the way things are and had always been.

What does this mean for /tg/? Well, there's nothing to say that we have to play with either a completely discriminant or a completely egalitarian magical force. But it helps the flavour of the setting if there's a differance between a Wizard (male), a Sorceress (female), a Witch (female) and a Warlock (male) other than just names.

Wizards study the arcane as the OP said with reckless abandon for everything else, pursuing knowledge and secrets for their curiosity's own sake.

Sorceresses travel the world and study the fey and myriad wonders of reality up close and personal, often examining nature and magic as interdependant in the fantasy, but don't worship nature like druids do.

Witches are the women who dabble in the darker but ultimately necessary knowledge of spirit, magics, life and death for goals that can be both good and ill. They live on the edges that Wizards have condemned and Sorceresses have avoided.

The Warlocks are men who find the sources of the darkest powers and engage with them in contests of will. Wether the result is a pawn or a master, they have not formal knowledge of the forbidden but still harness it for ultimately malicious ends.

>>53862956
>fairy hitting a cigarette
you know how fucking hard that would be with her tiny lungs? It'd be like hitting a didgeridoo.

>>53863963
>platform heels in a bog
got me

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>>53865944

>>53865691
I'd say it's much more common for a magic to work differently between the sexes (and the races) in fiction, than it is to be unified. And to me it makes sense, since magic is represented as a discipline of the mind, which doesn't work the same for every one (in some cases it works in a different way for every single practitioner).

Some books even make this divide a central focal point of their plot, like Wheel of time or the Magister Trilogy.

>>53866046
a bong isn't stuffed full of shit you have to burn

it's a lot easier to pull on a bong than on a joint/blunt/spliff/doobie

>>53865610
>Black magician trilogy
Yeah, though that is because it basically goes the other way around. Kinda like stockholm syndrome, but with black magic, sex and pseudo-aztec lunatics from the wasteland. One of the best love stories ever.

>>53865594
I always thought that was a really clever reason in the Witcher series for all the smokeshows everywhere.

>>53862808
>Squandered
>Became a goddamn actual wizard
I don't think you know what the word squandered means

This is literally Iggwilv's backstory except she then goes on to become the greatest demonologist of all time (and a lot of other stuff, like being Witch Queen of Perrenland and giving birth to an evil demigod son). Always thought it was kinda weird Gygax gave Zagyg (literally a corruption of his name) a slutty young woman apprentice but at least they went somewhere with it other than "lol women are sluts men have the true knowledge" like this thread seems to lean.

>>53865691
>Even the late Sir Pratchett, a very evident feminist, made sure to not contradict the archetype in the Discworld series more than once - only men could be wizards, and only women could be witches, because that's just the way things are and had always been.

Actually, in the Discworld universe it's repeatedly made clear that the men = wizards, women = witches dichotomy exists due to cultural forces, not any real physical limitations - an idea entirely in-keeping with feminist thinking. There are several instances in the Witches of Lancre books of women learning "wizard magic", which the hard-line witches consider to be too flashy and showy. And there's at least one mention of men learning something akin to witch-magic, and going by the title of "warlock", which the hard-line witches also look down on for various reasons.

Further, both the Witches and the Wizards are shown to be very conservative groups, that are very set in their ways and resistant to change. And since the Discworld runs on the power of belief, their beliefs about "the way things are" shape reality (just like in real life!).

>>53865691
>But it helps the flavour of the setting if there's a differance between a Wizard (male), a Sorceress (female), a Witch (female) and a Warlock (male) other than just names.

Why? Why is it better for all those terms to be different things, instead of just different cultures' names for the same thing? Isn't that just as reasonable an idea?

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>>53862808
No Female wizzards!

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>>53863963
>Them fucked up feet
>Those disgusting toes

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>>53862808
> Now that they're accomplished in their fields, they start taking on younger female apprentices to pass on their teachings and for... companionship purposes
Why would you TAKE ON a female apprentice if you can CREATE one?
You are a fucking wizard, for fuck's sake.

Wizards go for the respectable old mentor look (good for political dealings with noblemen and still gives them access to plenty of pussy)

>>53866443
my female apprentice is the XX part of my hermaphroditic chimera that is made out of several people of varying races/genders by liquefying them and pouring into a pan, then baking at 365 degrees for 2 hours and decorated with icing and passed out at the party tonight at 6pm, you know, sharon is there.

>>53866339
Personally, I think both work fine. It's all about the setting, also how language works.

For most Western English speakers, "witch/warlock" has a more negative connotation than "sorcerer/Sorceress" which probably has slightly more negative connotation than "mage/wizard". That is just how our culture and language is. I'm confident in other languages there are similar parallels.

So if you're building a game world with different types of magic you can help players grasp the setting a easier by using these pre-conceived notions.

At the same time, if the world has all a single type of magic, the word used could be cultural, based on that culture's view of magic.

This goes back to "generic vs. unique" settings, the more generic it is, the easier it is for players to pick up and jump into the game. The more you deviate the trickier this becomes.

For example, coming from a D&D background, it is easier to transition to Warhammer Fantasy than it is Legend of the Five Rings. Familiarity of language and ideas.

>>53863849

Isn't that exactly how Frances current president got married?

>>53867921
>France
>not a disaster

Pick one, anon.

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>>53862808
They are the old men.

>>53868071
>only a month into his term

Heck
>ameriburger
>politically conscious of anything

Pick one

>>53868071
How can he be responsible for it? he has just been elected.

>>53862837
>bitching about magical realm for no reason
Get out.

>>53868274
To be honest OP post is probably a magical realm but there are decent ideas in the thread.

>>53868071
It's a disaster but still better than your president marrying a Russian spy.

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>get a one-shot spell scroll of Polymorph
>turn into a young, sexy girl
>repeat every 10 years
>immortal and hot forever

Breaking the game 3.5 style

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>>53862808
>Are sorceresses/witches/female casters the fantasy equivalent of gold diggers?

There you go, OP:

wizards = old men and women
Sorcerers = Sluts
Sorceresses = Ultrasluts
Witch = Slut that bitches about the patriarchy while freebleeding

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>>53863027
This is a 1000 years old alchemist (male)

>>53868293
No, get out. Leave /tg/ forever with your anti-sex shit.

>>53868203
oh look, stupidity WAS contagious

>>53862808

Its about power.

Female wizards dress provocatively not just because they enhance their beauty with magic, but because there are no consequences for doing so. You don't need armor when you can turn arrows away with a spell, and anyone who tried to take an unwanted advantage of you can simply be turned to ash or politely 'suggested' elsewhere.

Male wizards do the same thing, they just add another 4 levels to their wizards penis- sorry, "tower" and dare anyone to try and break into it. Male wizards make very public displays of pissing contests and make their sanctums unassailable, where female wizards are generally more mobile rather than reclusive, and focus on being able to take complete control of a room the moment they enter it.

There are, of course, exceptions to both cases. Young male wizards who are still in their journeyman days, or wizards who have had their sanctum destroyed, will travel and search out new opportunities. Likewise, a witch who inherits a sanctum might find herself using it as a base of operations, or a maybe she makes a sanctum of her own because she has a lot of powerful enemies.

>>53862808

> Wizards are men who've learned magic arts that are usually accepted by major churches. They use spells that are approved due to the fact that they've used innate human magic to cast them.

> Sorcerers and Sorceresses are like wizards, but don't have religious approval. This is because they teach women magic, and they learn magic from other races, like Dragons, Goblins, Fae and Elves.

> Witches are regular women with low magic potential that have bound with Demons, Dragons and other races to obtain a part of their magic potential. The lucky ones are the classic Broomstick riding cat/owl familiar types, but it's more common for a Witch to end up making a bad deal and looking like an old hag (Goblin fusion) or becoming a slave (Dragon Haremette). They don't have the church approval at all because of openly consorting with nonhumans. Male Witches are called Sorcerers, because the churches of the land specifically don't want women to use magic.

> This is all because a few hundred years ago one of the popes got rejected by a female wizard and vowed revenge as he died a virgin. Pope Elliot the first.

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>>53868071
Higher productivity than the UK.

Equal productivity to the US, with longer vacations and earlier retirement.

Close friends with its neighbours instead of picking fights and building walls.

Entreprenurial capitalism AND a dependable social safety net.

Robust democracy where votes reject bullshit easy-answers popullism.

"Disaster"

>>53869142
>France
>close friends with anybody

>>53866048

It's also mechanically fun, because then you see new races and wonder what quirks their magic uses and how it'll shape the plot.

>>53869142
>Equal productivity to the US, with longer vacations and earlier retirement.
Stopped reading here because its obvious bullshit
France is still trying to be the economic center of the world and still cant precicely because its not even close to the US

>>53869324
This

>>53869142
Listen France, we appreciate what you managed to accomplish in days gone by. We also appreciate you guys taking the opportunity to kick England in the shins while we fought and died for our independence.

But seriously, the only reason France comes up in conversation anymore is marvelling at how many muslim dicks they managed to stuff in their mouths this week.

>>53865691
m8 the 3rd discworld book is about how the witch/wizard split is stupid and is only that way because thats how its always been

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>companionship purposes

Nigga I ain't throwing away my mana. If I want a heir, I will make one out of the parts or dragons, gods, and those from beyond. Just infuse it with magic and raise it to surpass me.

>>53869217
>>53869324
>>53869563
Wanna know how I can tell you don't read the news?

>>53863998
Hey, same here. He was her professor and she eventually became one too.

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>>53866443
>one

>>53869861

How?

>>53869142
>Equal productivity to the US
Not even close my friend. French workers have a (significantly) higher economic output per hour worked, but there are simple so many more Americans that France isn't even close in total output.

>>53869142
France is productive but is just too small to compete with the USA nigga.
I'm a yuropor and I totally admit that european sized countries just don't compete with a huge country like the USA.
USA vs the European Union is a fairer contest but then we have just as much economic wastelands as americans.

>>53868293
You have been shunned.

>>53862808
Difficult part of being wizard is spending decades in order to learn how to summon a group of pretty, horny women into your ritual chamber, but by the time you are able to do it, you are to old to do with them what you intended, or forgot what man and naked women should do in the bedroom.

>>53865944
square cube law anon

>>53863012
>lets face it theres a lot of bad ends waiting for someone who thinks with his dick

Into the motivational quotes list it goes.

>>53863791
It could work as a setting as long as you take time to point out how stupid human nature is.

>>53869693

Eskarina Smith is the ONLY case of a female Wizard taught in Unseen University. She's the single exception I referred to.

>>53866313
Discworld operates on the principles of narrative imperative and fantasy. The cultural forces ARE the physical limitations, the gender archetype IS the law. Only, being what they are the laws and limitations of Discworld can be broken, something many protagonists end up having to do. Especially in the Weatherwax novels.

>>53866339
I think >>53866048 put it best but I'd like to explain further. If we're going by a high-magic setting where the spellcasters are not demigod-like Galadriels and Gandalfs, the acquisition and education of arcane knowledge must have some process. Apprenticeship, colleges, monastic studies. Pre-modern era, none of those would EVER be done without gender bias. So the chances of a girl being permitted into a wizard institution or a sorceress taking on boy apprentices is very low, likely seen as even more suspect than the Platostotlian academies.

The idea that the sorceresses are more outward and exploratory while the wizards are more introverted and ivory tower comes from old archetypes, probably with roots in Greek mythology for the former and ancient history of education for the latter.

>>53866869
Unless the setting is low magic and any arcane practicioner looks the same to the normal civillian, I can't see how a warlock can be confused for a wizard or a sorceress can be mistaken for a witch. It's not just connotation, it's a differentiation of what the magic application is used for, what the structure of the knowledge is and the consequent social status. It's like saying a virologist and a theoretical physicist are the same because they both do science.

The male/female separation is a result of the fantasy aspect itself, but at the same time I want to make a separation between actual "deal with the devil" types and just the ones who don't hesitate to tap into the dark powers.

>>53870248
>French workers have a (significantly) higher economic output per hour worked
Which is what productivity means.

>>53868458
>>53870363
I hate this "I speak for /tg/" shit

>>53868928
This is interesting stuff, but I don't understand. Sorcerers are like wizards but are also female witches? Is that just a nominal thing then?
Honestly if a man doesn't want to earn wizard status by studying high arcane magic in a university, does he even deserve to be considered a mage?
Warlocks are a different story altogether, but I feel like a sorcerer is just a warlock or a necromancer whose unlicensed arcane heresy hasn't been exposed yet.

>>53871380
>Unless the setting is low magic and any arcane practicioner looks the same to the normal civillian, I can't see how a warlock can be confused for a wizard or a sorceress can be mistaken for a witch. It's not just connotation, it's a differentiation of what the magic application is used for, what the structure of the knowledge is and the consequent social status. It's like saying a virologist and a theoretical physicist are the same because they both do science.

That distinction is pretty arbitrary and based on our language and culture. Not only that but are based on a high level of understanding of metaphysics that is likely beyond the ability of most people in the world.

In D&D mechanical terms we can see the difference between a Wizard and Sorcerer because we see "behind the curtain" how the world works. Within the bounds of the game, they're both clearly manipulating magic to get results, is there a real difference? We may think there is, since one needs a book, but does he really? Maybe the book and it's words are just inspiration to help their mind handle dealing with arcane power that is just as innate as the sorcerer's.

In a different game the difference may be quite clear as the effects they can create could be vastly different.

>>53871458
Get out then

>>53871678
No, stop pretending the board isn't made up of a wide variety of viewpoints. Stop trying to homogonize us by pretending that all of /tg/ is just like you

Guys let's expand the subject to include:
Druids
Necromancers
Monks/Nuns
Shaman
Alchemists
Clerics/Priestesses (variable deity)
Diabologists

How does sex affect these professions? What does a woman want from lichdom that a man wouldn't? How is a nun's fighting style different from a monk's? Who wears less: druid men or shaman women?

>>53871779
Female Druids, and Shamans might be more inclined towars the feminine aspect of things; the moon, birth and motherhood etc.

I don't see the others being much differen, maybe the clerics depending on the god and the organization of the church.

>>53871663
Okay, well there's obviously a reason why you should wear a pointy hat with Wizzard sequined into it. Unless you're like one of those "genre-savvy" people who plays a wizard but always conceals it to lower their threat level, people should be able to see you're a wizard because you'd show them.

>>53868303
>Having a rothschild puppet directly at the head of your country is better than having a russian 1st lady.
Ok mate.

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>>53862808
Can we agree necromancers are the sluttiest of all magical users?

>>53871986
No.

Druids and Shamans have to be. Fertility rituals are a huge thing in those cultures.

Besides, Necromancer turn into Liches, Wraiths, or Wights. None of which are sexy.

The way I'm getting it set up is that magic is an outside force and can only be used by making pacts with demons or angels or any number of supernatural being that make it into our world.
Contacting them is stupidly simple to the point where some people do it on accident and don't even realize it's happened until way later.
What exactly the deal between a mortal and the being can vary a great deal depending on the nature of the being and what the person is willing to do.

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>>53872096

i beg to differ

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>>53872403
Is that a zombie?

Vampires should be the only sexy undead.

>>53872470
if i remember correctly she threw herself into the sea of black tears and she became warped by the inky darkness so i want to say a corporeal wraith

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>>53872527
Oh shit, that's BRUTAL LEGEND.

Nice.

Don't think that counts as an undead.

>>53871986
If they were really that slutty you'd think they'd go for a discipline that lets you summon creatures with dicks that work.

>>53872570
she did drown in the sea though but the sea only took on her form rather than possess her outright... soooo i would say undead elemental?

>>53871174
It wouldn't be human nature if it wasn't natural.

The crime is Life, the sentence is Death.

>>53872840
"Stupid" and "natural" are entirely compatible traits.

>>53872706
Emo elemental maybe. Similar to undead, but with more angst.

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>>53872706
I'd have to brush up on the Brutal Lore.

But from what I remember, you drink the water and go full Emo. Drowning in it would make you the Avatar or Prophet or something of the Emos.

She'd almost be a summoner at that point.

>>53870436
Which is why every Lich has a Phalluctery.

>>53872891
Exactly. Many of the things organic life is hardwired to do are stupid. Assuming that getting rid of humans and nothing else will change or fix anything is wide-eyed naivete at best.

Life will persist in its insidious, babbling, incoherent cycles until it ceases to be entirely. Every last bacterium must be eliminated, lest they escape to another planet and start the process all over again.

>>53871986
Nah they'd be the most perverted

>>53871986
>necromancers not being asexual

for what purpose

>>53872910
Historically, yeah, drinking the Tears turns you into angsty Hot Topic undead. Ophelia was an odd case though in that she drowned herself in it which left her body intact and in stasis while her feelings of betrayal coalesced around a symbol of her relationship with Eddie, forming Drowned Ophelia - Queen of the Drowning Doom. Summoner is a pretty reasonable approximation of her powers, she mostly raises Drowned units and attacks with black watery magic.

>>53872096
>Missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation

>>53871735
Stop pretending that this HURR DURR MAGICAL REALM-crying about anything you dont like is not shitposting from newfags and SJWs who dont understand that /tg/ always was lewd.

>>53868455
Oh, that's lipstick. Somehow I tough he'd gone full loli and was smoking a cigar? Why do cigars seem better to me than lipstick for ancient little girl (male) wizards?

>>53872910
drinking the water causes you to be consumed with grief and the lose of the will to live. Since Ophelia drowned in it she allowed the sea to manifest in a physical form so i would say drowning in it makes you an avatar or conduit for the sea

however i see them as goth more than emo

>>53873104
Because you have a thing for little girls sucking on Big Black Cigars.

>>53873147
sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

>>53873104
Well, it would make sense for someone with a self-destructive habit to be interested in getting a new, youthful body after cancer-ing up their old one.

>>53862808
I've seen this idea before and I have to say I really like it. Both as a magical realm setting and for a more serious setting.

>>53871663
>>53871573
Let me put it in terms anyone on 4chan can understand: loli magical girls.
Hermione Granger is a wizard (female).
Star Butterfly is a sorceress (female).
Tiffany Aching is a witch (female).
Hermione and Star can't make cheese.
Star and Tiffany can't do math.
Tiffany and Hermione can't have a good time.

Brb gtg >>>/aco/ make a quick /r

>>53873089
>"Waaah he doesn't like me injecting my fetish into everything I do."

>>53868303
Nice racism, Russophobe.

>>53871909
Again a lot of this is cultural.

Take penguins, mom poops out the egg and dad sits on it. Would male fantasy penguin people be more inclined to take the healing role while females the hunting?

It may sound like I'm spouting some SJW nonsense but there is a reason we perceive things certain ways which may be entirely different in a fantasy setting or race.

>>53871921
I have no idea what you're going on about.

>>53876814
There are no preestablished fantasy penguin archetypes.
Culture and the well of fictional conventions are different things.

>>53862854
Wingardium LevioSAH

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>>53862837
But I like the layout of this magical realm.

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>>53863675
The art is weird but THICCCCCC

>>53871663
>Within the bounds of the game, they're both clearly manipulating magic to get results, is there a real difference?
Yes. Wizardry in D&D, in universe and out, is not innate. It can be taught to anyone capable of handling it with a few years of training. There are entire colleges and places of learning dedicated to wizardry. Sorcery on the other hand is innate. It cannot be taught to someone, only awakened. Not everyone can awaken sorcery within themselves either. There are no places of great learning for sorcerers as each is unique in its ancient magical bloodline.

In addition, the game mechanically differentiates wizardry and sorcery at a fundamental level via how spells are set up per day. Wizards must memorise their spells, while sorcerers are simply refreshed of their daily uses upon waking. That memorising though is jargon, not literal memorising. It stands for essentially programming an arcane construct, like making a computer program that lives in your head. Casting it is finishing off the program, usually via targeting data. Once this is done it's "forgotten", the energy and burden on your mind having been expended and the mental space freed up for other things. Wizardry is often an imitation of sorcerous "spells", using spells that imitate abilities tied to ancient bloodlines and creatures of supernatural power.

Beyond this, each spell casting system looks different, though mechanically they are the same. Wizards are doing precise gestures and technical language, sorcerers are strange gestures and primal language. To a commoner, a sorcerer and wizard may seem similar, but between a wizard and a sorcerer they are very different.

>>53865944
I shouldn't have laughed at this as hard as i did.

>>53862808
Aren't witches usually old hags with either a glamour or some sort of demonic pact? They aren't actually young.

>>53879016
The meanings of words are decided by the masses, though. A wizard may be very insistent on being called a wizard and likewise for a sorcerer, but if the average person just sees one guy in a blue robe tossing a fireball and another guy... in a red robe... tossing a fireball, then there's really no difference for him and he might as well call both of them "tossers".

>>53879780
There can be multiple and variant meanings of these words depending on who you're talking too.

In this case the wizardry has already been defined for the culture by its use in colleges and universities of wizardry. You send your noble son or daughter off to wizard school and they learn how to cast magic to help the kingdom. Your family might display a bit of sorcery, and so you ship them off to the wizard college where they learn to either suppress or use their sorcerous power, maybe even picking up a bit of wizardry to complement their sorcerous power. Witchcraft might be an alternative source of power for certain groups. Maybe there is a group of casters who gain their power by taking as a patron the immortal guardian spirit of the kingdom, who serve the king as another group of spellcasters.

Commoners call good guys wizards, the kings casters; while the wizards know themselves as a specific form of casting. Sorcerers might be bad guy casters, or those poor kids who show magic power before being sent off or killed; and the wizards know them as a much older form of magic their spells imitate. Witches are the crazy people who live on the edge of town that scares people and blights crops, even though the kings men who investigated them found them to be a disgraced wizard professor who was a bit of a curmudgeon and was doing illegal alchemical experiments. Though that young woman over in that nearby hamlet who provides those special salves was a witch whose patron is likely a local fey lord. To the commoners she's just one of the wise women group that have lived in the region for generations.

In a time before the internet, or even schools in every community, who makes the meanings of words is the priesthood, the king and his men, and leastly the local population.

>>53863096
>sexy male monsters
Think more rape tentacles and alien beings of fecund power that will rut with anything that has holes it desires and make a few new holes in anything that doesn't.

Protip for aspiring mages: know what to lewd and how to survive the rest.

>>53874279
>"Waaah I hate sex."

>>53873078
whoa buddy, this is a blue board, you can't post that here

>>53862808
>Are sorceresses/witches/female casters the fantasy equivalent of gold diggers?
No, because that would mean your scenario is the only way they come about. In your setting, sure. In my game we've got a female necromancer that's stabbed people in back alleys and experimented on their corpses to learn necromancy. Another game I played in had someone just be a really good singer, and that's why she got tutored in bard magic.

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>>53863675
Hey it's kat dennings.

>>53862808
Not necessarily. When the apprentice becomes the master, the master will need a new apprentice, so the cycle continues.

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>>53862808
>for... companionship purposes
They have familiars for that.