>Reconstruction of plate Mycaenean armors Which would

Depends entirely what you're doing.

>Pike line
Left

>(almost)Anything else
Right

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>>53798555

Piked

>>53798528
right because shark jaw design on neckguard and also pauldrons

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>NPC follower

You may only have one

>>53798528
>str vs dex

>>53798697
I'll take the dour looking peasant male in the background. All I need is a pack lackey, and he looks like too much of a beta male to complain as long as he gets a few silver coins every other day or so.

>>53798714

You got a problem with agility or something?

>>53798528
left. giant gorgets and pauldrons mean you're important

The one with the cute frilled mini.

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>>53798528
Tin (+copper) can. Just a little modification and it looks /fa/ as fuck on top of covering more and allowing a deceptive range of movement.

>>53798528
That's not Myc', that's Sea Peoples on the right.

>>53798528
Left. It looks like bulky as fuck. It also allows me to intimidatingly walk up to my enemy, glare down at him, and ask him "do you even lift, bruh?".

>>53798697
The smug as fuck soldier, who else? He can be the party face, for when looking bulky and staring people down doesn't get the job done.

>>53798528
Left is chariot rider's armor. You wouldn't be able to run or do any meaningful footwork in it, so I chose right. Plus, I think that right looks more aesthetic.

>>53798697
depressed peasant jim in the background.
He must have something, I mean c'mon.

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Rate Minoan fashion

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>>53804816
>Cover everything except the breasts
Why though?

>>53804858
Why not? Flaunt em if ya got em.

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>>53804948
What I meant is why even cover your upper body if you're going to expose your tits anyway?

>>53804858
because boob sweating is uncomfortable in hot darned mesowhatever

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bottom left

>>53804972
Show off the wealth. Do you even nobility?

>>53798528
left is hailerious

>>53805004

Good choice, but bottom right is better.

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A challenger approaches

>>53804816
timestamp or gtfo

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>>53805089

>>53804816
This is like future historians basing what we wear today on how Miley Cyrus dressed.

>>53798528
Left, because he looks like Spaece Marinea®©™. The one on the right looks like a stripper costume.

>>53804858
Breasts aren't inherently private parts.

>>53805004
>that ass cheek
>the pride

>>53807683
you do know we have a lot of statues and house and palace wall paintings. plus egyptian and mittenian texts that say that this is how cretan women wore their dresses, right?

>>53804816
It's the tits.

>>53798528
Spear and magic helmet.

>>53808810
Spear and magic helmet?

>>53808975
SPEAR AND MAGIC HELMET

>>53798528
>slice inner thigh
>bleed out in less than a minute

Super duper.

>>53808975
Spear and magic helmet.

>>53798697
Thirding for depressed peasant in background

>>53809160
Magic helmet?

>>53809146
Do you realize how hard it is to slice the inner thigh of an angry man swinging metal at your face?

>>53809205
Pfft... "magic helmet."

>>53805004
>Fuck, Marry, Kill, Pillage

>>53804816
>leaving sensitive body parts uncovered

This is logical.

>>53804972
it gets cold, cover your back, leave the pointy nipples out, how is this hard to understand?

>>53810255
This anon gets it.

>>53798528

I'd want to wear the right, but I want the first two rows of dudes at the front of my line outfitted like the left.

>>53810291
It's not armor? It's clothing. I don't imagine your clothing protects your jugular vein or femoral arteries particularly well.

>>53805150
This looks like something straight out of Legend of Zelda. I love it.

>>53810501
I said sensitive not vital. Nipples are sensitive. They're sensitive to wind and heat and cold. When they burn, it hurts. When it's cold, they're uncomfortable. If a bug bites your nipple, it sucks. We cover our nipples because it's comfortable to do so.

And don't try to mention nudists. Nudists don't do it because of comfort, they do it because they're sexual deviants.

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>>53809146
Reminder that those bronze-covered bulwarks were genocided by naked barbarians in silly hats

>>53810790
Anon, they were the barbarians in silly hats. The sea people being Mycenaeans is the only reasonable conclusion.

>>53798697
the career soldier, obviously. Look at that smug-ass face

>>53810790
Look at all those nipples. Didn't they read the post above?

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>wear all this armor
>also sandals

why not armor your feet?

>>53811138
Who would stab down?

>>53811224
me

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>>53811253
Small, moving target, and disadvantageous to aim for compared to other targets.

Also, foot armour was a thing for infantry, but these men would mostly be on chariots.

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>>53811435

>>53811449
>>53811435

this is really cool.

Is there anywhere else where I can find out more about their armor?

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>>53811692
I got nothing on hand now, but will look some stuff up later.

>>53804858

21st century fashion is about 15 years from bringing this style back

biggest (heh) problem with that is the growing global obesity epidemic

>>53811449

Something about this guy makes him extremely intimidating.

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>>53808734
Underrated post.

>>53809146
psssh nothing personal

>>53811826
He's a big guy

>>53810790
>Tyrannosaurus hunted Stegosaurus to extinction, guyse.

>>53811826
The hat. Definitely the hat.

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>>53805371

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>>53811449
Greek armour is so aesthetic

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>>53798528
Okay, as absolutely stylin' and probably effective as those suits are? Only two things come to my mind when looking at them.

First, holy SHIT just how fucking rich were the Myceanean kings?! Bronze is really, REALLY fucking expensive, so to kit out their most elite warriors in suits like that, they must have been BEYOND loaded! We're talking wealth beyond measure, Gate of Babylon levels of cash here! That's impressing me even TODAY, so imagine the effect when your neighbor's most advanced technology is a fucking shaduf!

Second, I don't know if anyone has been informed, but it is a bit warm in Greece. Apart from all that bronze weighing an imperial FUCK-TON, metal has a bit of a habit of trapping heat REALLY WELL. The training those warriors must have gone through to be able to cope with standing, much less marching and fighting in that gear, for more than two minutes before passing out with a crash worse than the 2008 housing market is just mind-blowing.

Holy shit the Myceaneans were awesome.

>>53813943
>tyrannosaurus lived a few million years closer to us than they did to stegosaurus
I know that this is the exact reason behind your post, but my 'tism won't let me leave this as is.

>>53810637
it's the same as saying soles are sensitive and hurt when you walk on gravel barefeet but if you're used to it and your skin is hardened it's literally nothing

it's your fault covering your tits all the time with bra

>>53810637
>Nudists don't do it because of comfort, they do it because they're sexual deviants.

we got a live one

>>53814915
There's a reason the phalanx didn't involve a lot of movement, unlike Dark Age Greece which had a lot more jumping around involved.

(I'm simplifying things a bit here)

>>53798528

>Modern diet, health and nutrition
>Modern forging techniques, tools and materials

If you sent them back in time, they would have made the king look like a pathetic slave.

>>53815237
You forget that even with state-of-the-art training and tools, the average modern bodybuilder, soldier or athlete is a complete amateur at using their body.
Outside the training field, they're people like anyone else, who take the road, the escalator, the elevator, the car or the train; they don't work for their own sustenance on the side, they get overfocused exercise, their immune system is a lot less hardened, their pain tolerance is lower and their experience in actual battle is at most limited to one or two brawls a month.
People nowadays see the deeds done by the people of the past and delude themselves that they must have been weak and underdeveloped, because the idea of working yourself to the bone without modern medicine, technology, communication, heating, instant food, clothing and God knows what sends most everyone but the poverty-born and insane into a whimpering panic attack.
We wave modern training and technology around in front of other insecure people, sharing our self-satisfaction on social media to convince ourselves we're all really the best, but in the end, if you pitted five youths from a Mycenean village against an affluent apartment block's residents, there's a very real chance that the people with actual experience working, risking death and being hurt will make short work of the pampered yuppies on designer diets with "ten years of judo experience" with their fists and feet.
In the end, nothing at all is superior to pure psychological resilience and experience, and someone who relies on tools, trainers and diets to raise their numbers will cave like a ninety-pound dweeb in front of someone who's exposed to more threats to their life at any given moment and has experienced fewer luxuries in their life than the bodybuilder will in his life.

>>53815378
no shit

>>53798697
I'll take the wizard disguised as a soldier. I see that fucking staff.

>>53815398
There are enough people who want to hink that just being born in the modern age would let them tower over the greatest warriors of history and make short work of them to populate hundreds of threads.
It obviously hasn't been said clearly enough before.

>>53804816
Those tits are going to get saggy damn fast, and then wind up covered in stretch marks.

>>53815412
some people want to feel good about themselves with this gym trend going on, shit has nothing on martial arts and combat

>>53804858

babies need food anon

>>53807757
True dat, breasts are literally only for food. No one considers milking cows and goats bestiality. So why do we consider showing tits lewd?

>>53815219
The Phalanx came after the Dark Age.

This armor is from before.

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>>53815443
you can do stuff with them

honestly though it's because of culture you retard

>>53815461
Yes, I am aware it's a cultural thing, you dingus. But WHY does our culture dictate that tits are lewd?

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>>53815491
>move north
>gets cold
>cover up yourself most of the year
>hidden things make people go crazy and protective about them
then there's that guy with the mommy fetish who ruins it all

>>53798697
Soldier
>Haтypaльнaя пpяжa
wat event

>>53815509
This may sound /pol/ but this time it really is the jews' fault.

>>53815378
>their immune system is a lot less hardened

Only if their parents were anti-vaxxers.

>>53815676
Vaccines don't protect against everything, you know.
They protect against preventable common diseases and a few different preventable diseases that have historically fucked up entire nations, not all the myriads and myriads of different bacteria and vira that you get exposed to during hard life on the country - and on a battlefield, of course.
Modern people don't get sick less because of vaccines and only vaccines - 60% of it is the result of modern medicine allowing fast diagnosis and patient removal as well as modern society's comforts making it not a death sentence for your entire family if the main provider has to take sick leave, combined with hypochondria and corporations producing "allergy-friendly" products that in the end only end up creating new ones through lack of exposure.
Vaccines help against the stuff that could cause a full-on epidemic and a few common diseases, but they're not video-game antivenom items.

>>53808534
Show some then, I've only seen the goddess/priestess statuette and wall paints of young girls and boys doing sports (so them being naked is normal).

>>53809213
not very if you know what your doing

>>53815713
Being protected against 90% of everything that killed people doesn't sound like a bad deal to me...

>>53815443
They look like asses and asses are inherently sexual on women.

>>53808810
that's..that's slang for dick right?

>>53815808
And straight into hyperbole.
Being protected against the preventable diseases among the ones that we have historically had problems with in the First World is not "90% of everything that killed people".
The main lethal diseases that an average vaccination should ideally protect against (which means that not all do) are: hepatitis A, hepatitis B, polio, mumps, measles, rubella, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, HiB, chickenpox, rotavirus, influenza, meningococcal disease and pneumonia.
Diphteria is the biggest killer up there, but dehydration is the main thing making it lethal, and you don't need a vaccine to help that, just the knowledge. Discounting the diseases that spread later than the generic Middle Ages setting and the ones that rarely spread because they're too lethal and the symptoms are screamingly obvious even to a peasant, we're left with a spread of diseases that most people can be naturally inoculated towards, instead of literally reacting like the Mesoamericans to smallpox at the merest mutation or slip in their vaccination schedule.

>>53810928
>The sea people being Mycenaeans is the only reasonable conclusion.
They probably weren't just Mycenaeans/Achaeans. Egyptians described them as multitude of different tribes

>>53815640
To be fair here, it's a REALLY stupid idea to expose anything in a desert

>>53815999
Most serious people believe that they were never a single people, ie the sea peoples "didn't exist". The dudes who destroyed Hattusas or Mycenae were probably not the same who were defeated in Egypt. Or, better said, some were probably in the destruction of Hattusas and some were displaced by this or other events and became "sea peoples".

>>53809213
>>53815784

He's memeing, anon, ignore him.

>>53816102
Considering how total the Bronze Age collapse was, it's likely that cultures fell among other things to domino effect: "Sea peoples" come, ruin a culture that is already reeling from breaking trade and possible climate change, and there we have another tribe havin to raid to survive, effectively joining the "Sea peoples"

>>53816140
Exactly.

>>53811826
It's the crest, also he's so shiny.

>>53798528
The non-stupidasfuck looking one.

I still find it hard to believe that this ancient "civilization" failed to develop pants.

>>53816663
Why would they need them? They're not northern barbarians afraid to freeze off their balls

>>53816663
Why would you? It's hot in the Mediterranean.

>>53816663
They didn't need to because their weather wasn't cold and they weren't riding horses 24/7 like Scythians.

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> You will never fight a lion with your pals

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>>53817050
>You'll never get a commemorative dagger about the occasion.

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Bronze

>>53815378
You make a fair point, but you exaggerate a bit and seem biased. Don't forget that, just like you said, the Mycenean youth, for example, are also people like anyone else. All that you've mentioned isn't enough to make them so much stronger than today's average man. They are village boys, and yes, they brawl, they work the fields and have a lot of chores. They are harder, probably, but they're still human. We're not the best - and neither are they. When adrenaline kicks in, even the weakest has the chance to put up a fight, and maybe even win. The Mycenean youth would probably have a panic attack, too, since they'd be pitted against something completely new to them.

Just saying.

>>53811736
It's been 15 years from bringing it back for the past 30 years at least, but the conservatives keep complaining.

>>53815750
>I don't have any counter examples but I'm just going to assume you are wrong.

>>53814915
>First, holy SHIT just how fucking rich were the Myceanean kings?! Bronze is really, REALLY fucking expensive, so to kit out their most elite warriors in suits like that, they must have been BEYOND loaded!
There's some stuff to consider:
1) It certainly depends on the specific period, but armies weren't that big. "Thousand ships" of Trojan war is most certainly an exaggeration. It's not early medieval Britain where 50 men counted as an army but still, a few thousand men in the bronze age would likely be considered a scary force.
2) Hardly all of the troops would wear bronze, it would be reserved for the shock troops (like charioteers) and VIPs, both of which would be nobles. The rest would probably be lucky to get whatever analog of a quilted vest or a lithotorax (if those existed to begin with)
3) Speaking of nobles, we know that in Classic Greece noble houses equipped their own warriors. Probably this practice wasn't that much different with the Achaeans
4) Bronze IS extremely expensive and always was but it's also durable and could be recast without losing material. So those armors most likely served in one form or another for many generations

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>>53815750
What about gathering saffron?

>>53818083
One of these decades and a half they're going to stop complaining, or they're going to stop being listened to.

>>53818306
Knowing Greece that's probably a dude.

>>53819285
If so they're a dude dressing as a woman.

They've got the layered dress, the open blouse, and he's painted white, which is usually used for painting woman. (Not always though, such as with the Prince of the Lilies.)

>>53815378
>>53815398
>>53815412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja_DV6zvEqQ

>>53815918
Going from hyperbole to idiocy doesn't help your case, particularly when your earlier point was an I'll informed straw man.

>>53818083
Things have been changing though, breasts can now be exposed in NYC and public sex is allowed in San Francisco

>>53804976
Greece. Minoans are from Crete.

>>53798528
Left armor, right guy's axe.