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Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/, Pathfinder, and Starfinder)

Do your characters ever conceal their identities? How do they do it? How often?

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Old Thread: >>53754823
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>>53759369
Not my character, but in my kingmaker game, there's a Vigilante we don't know the name of. she's never taken her mask off in the presence of the party, and as part of finding an ancient temple, she had to tell a fey her true name. the p[arty still hasn't heard it, as this was done away from the group.
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>>53759369
Cute Scathach
I want to see someone use her as character art soon, because she's just too adorable
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>>53759381
>pull aggro
This doesn't exist in 3.PF, you *will* die if you try to 'pull mobs'. Also, the real thing to look out for - is anyone taking a fullcasting class?
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>>53759386
Her name's been on her character sheet the whole time though
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>>53759369
BAN PAIZO SPAM
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>>53759401
Yes, I know.

I've been keeping myself purposefully ignorant of it this entire time because I want to see the reveal.
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Are the 15th and 16th century suitable for Pathfinder? How fast did the arquebus spread after appearing on the scene (1470?)?
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>>53759407
The plot twist is that her social identity is a 500 foot tall dinosaur from the paleolithic era
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>>53759394
come to think of it nobody else has confirmed theyre playing yet. Its a game where we are gangpressed into pirate service as we have a "clint eastwood with a magic musket" guy and a swashbuckler/rogue with mediocre health.
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How can you get Dex to ranged damage? Is it possible?
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>>53759460
We houseruled in Agile for ranged. Other than that, Gunslinger I think is your only option dex to "ranged".
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>>53759496
Was asking in general.
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>>53759460
Composite Longbow -> Deadly Agility, maybe? Really pushing it.
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>>53759369
So what's the best way to use performance and craft?
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>>53759508
It's still not a finesse weapon, so by RAW not really.

>>53759501
Good luck, remember that Paizo hates ranged.
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>>53759389
Enmity is stupid.
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>>53759460
Gunslinger 5, or Trench Fighter 3
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Alright /pfg/, let's get down to the brass tacks.

How do I play this qt3.14 in Pathfinder? Preferably a Chachemist that doesn't suck.
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>>53759533
But maybe she can be a real naga, not a fake snek.
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>>53759523
Good Zeph grid never anon
It fucking hurts
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>>53759533
>>53759536
If you don't mind fake-ish snake that goes really well with your pic, you could go Serpentine Synthesist.

If your DM has a problem with it because "hur dur synthesist is broken", then just homebrew a race using that create-a-race guidelands between 9-12 RP and get him to approve it. Then play an actually good class to spite him.
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>>53759533
>>53759536

Am confuse. So her tail has a sheath she can put her human legs in when she wants to snek?
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>>53759444
Trips confirm that she needs about tree fiddy
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>>53759538
>Zeph grid
What did he mean by this?
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>>53759389
What race and class should she be?
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>>53759589
I dunno how it works, man.
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>>53759643
It's 3pp stuff don't worry about it.
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>>53759678
>Granblue is officially 3pp

I wish.
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>>53759691
IT'S THE KONG
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>Granblue /pfg/ campaign
>yes, with airships
>and draphs
>dunno about races

Would you apply?
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>>53759725
What did he mean by this?
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>>53759731
Sachiko's nickname is The Kong
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>>53759512
The only way to ever benefit from performance is to be a bard, and thoat only because it'll take over for two different skills that aren't as useless.
Craft is shit unless your DM gives you stupid amounts of downtime, because otherwise you just take spellcraft on whoever the token casterfuck is.

I think perform (dance) is a requisite for a few feats and maybe a prestige? You still don't take it for the skill itself, but for what it lets you into.
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>>53759729

What about Galaxy Saga? Also yes but I'm not terribly familiar with the setting.
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>>53759512
>>53759747
Dervish Dance is the only real reason to grab Perform (Dance) outside of backstory reasons.
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>>53759761
Versatile Performance too?
3pp adds a few other options on top as well.
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>>53759744
Why?
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>>53759729
Totally.
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>>53759802
KONG
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At what point does a game qualify for the classification of "lewd"?
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>>53759729
YE
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https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78224/chronicles-of-the-golden-chalice
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77201/essentia-forgotten-home
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80257/wrath-of-the-righteous
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/5126499/round-2-dot-dot-dot-3/?pageforid=5152402#post-5152402
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>>53759778
Bards usually have decent Dex, so Acrobatics is usually something to put ranks into. Fly might be worth it, but I'm not sure I'd grab it over just finding a way to make it a trained skill with a trait.

3pp adds a lot more, like making perform an initiating skill and other things. I was talking more from a 1p perspective.
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>>53759902
Literally who?
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>>53759747
I have tons of down time.
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What's the tier list for Pathfinder AP's? I'm gonna be running a campaign for some kids at my local lgs and wanna give them a good time without putting in the effort of worldbuilding since they're not really interested in anything that isn't murderhobo'ing around.
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>>53759958
>>53757988
>Wrath of the Righteous
>Level 4, 30 PB
>Everything I ever wanted
>This is it, this is my moment

>Not Gestalt

YAMEROOOOOOOOO
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>>53760272
Can I play a cute dragon lady knight?
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>>53760272
Hmmm, should I poll for gestalt?
>>53760316
pic related
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>>53760272
As awkward as it is to say, I kind of agree. The game looks great, but the concept I'm married to requires Gestalt.

>>53760316
Of course! Are you talking about a dragonblooded Human woman? Ooh, you could refluff an Aasimar as Apsu-blooded and get Angel Wings.
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>>53760316
Brevoy is right next door, you could totally play a cute dragon lady descendent of Choral the Conqueror. No fucking clue how that'll play out racially or classwise, though!

>>53760340
>Hmm, should I poll for Gestalt?

I think it'd be a good idea, or just declare your decision right now and settle the matter.
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>>53760340
>>53760347
>>53760377
what the fuck is gestalt.
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>>53760272
>>53760377
Ah, screw it
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/5161287/announcements/?pageforid=5161287#post-5161287
I better get at least 50% more ladyknights out of this.
>>53760383
Take two classes, with the best HD/BAB/saves/skill progression of the two, but the class features of both.
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How thicc should a blinkling boy be?
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>>53760402
Doesn't that make you horribly overpowered? I guess its kind-of the point but if you're going through an AP won't you just breeze through it with no challenge?
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>>53760420
Starting at level 4 already required me to rewrite most encounters. Adding Gestalt doesn't make much of a difference in that aspect.
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>>53760416
Not thicc at all, children are typically thin to begin with, and a boy shouldn't have any curves.
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>>53760272
It is also run by a shitlord GM so it will probably be shit.
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>>53760262
IRON GODS
R
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G
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>>53760431
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>>53760431
No bully!
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>>53760429

Non-human races might work differently.
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>>53760504
Dogs are all paws and leg when they're puppies, too. You ever see a Golden Retriever pup? They have that adorable stagger to their step because they're still growing into their feet.

A blinkling child would have incredibly large ears and feet (as befitting a Halfling too) but normal-sized everything else.
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>>53760262
>God Tier
Iron Gods, Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne
>High Tier
Hell's Rebels, Skull & Shackles, Giantslayer
>Good Tier
Shattered Star, Legacy of Fire, Reign of Winter
>Can be good Tier
>Kingmaker, Wrath of the Righteous, Strange Aeons
>Low Tier
Jade Regent, Carrion Crown, Hell's Vengeance
>Avoid Tier
Second Darkness, Mummy's Mask, Serpent's Skull
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>>53760799
>Hell's Rebels is High tier
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>>53760799

>All of High Tier
>Reign of Winter only in Good Tier
>Carrion Crown in Low Tier

gr8 b8 m8.
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What's the current app meta? I want to be in fashion for Wrath of the Righteous!
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>>53760920
Blinklings are the current meta.
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>>53760920
Still daddies and waifus. The name may change but /pfg/ never will.
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>>53760920
The PLD meta is daddies

Vult just posted Drow racials to counteract the daddy flow
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https://www.juniperfoxx.com/living-with-juniper/2017/1/5/frequently-asked-questions

>Foxes have a very strong odor. You can smell Juniper the moment you pull into my drive way. Their urine and feces smell like skunk mixed with ammonia. There is no way to “de-scent” a fox.

>Foxes pee on things they think is theirs. This is a marking behavior and nearly impossible to break them of and remember their pee stinks. So having a fox means having almost everything you own smell awful.

Are kitsune BTFO eternally?
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>>53760966
Why is /pfg/ never interested in younger characters and smol sticcs?
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>>53760964
I will never not love the aesthetic of Japanese animal people having big bushy eyebrows.
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>>53761059
Actually I would love to a smol sticc like that, it's just she's an exception to the rule.
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>>53761063
They're bushy but small.
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>>53760986
Aren't the daddies being posted all "I can't actually make the time slot just wanted to write something"?
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>>53761180
We really need to put a ban on attention-whoring fake apps, ESPECIALLY if they're from celebs.
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>>53761205
Looks like only two actual apps so far

>Daddy Inquisitor/Chloromancer
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/5126499/round-2-dot-dot-dot-3/?pageforid=5127457#post-5127457

>Gray Maiden hunting yandere sister
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/5126499/round-2-dot-dot-dot-3/?pageforid=5139211#post-5139211
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>>53761292
There are at least 3 more coming
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>>53761205
I want to hug that fox!
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>>53759584
Why do people think Synthesist is broken?
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>>53761205
Aside from the lack of 3pp, PLD has a pretty good char gen to work with, backstory wise. I for one am not surprised people want to dabble with the horror
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>>53760986
>>53760966
What are some spicy daddy concepts for a shithole like the Worldwound?
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>>53761435
She's smelly though, see >>53760988
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Would it be wrong to gestalt a life oracle and a dead necromancer into some kind of balance abomination?
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>>53761661
Good thing I have no sense of smell then
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>>53760316
You better use this token if you're going with that art, m80.
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http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/sahkil/sahkil-ichkoh/

>Ichkohs savor the fear of the failure of the flesh, and enjoy tormenting those who take pride in their bodies. When an ichkoh selects victims, it torments them with the knowledge of how they failed to maintain their bodies in their youth.

Is this the bane of /fit/?

Should an ichkoh go around a temple of Kurgess convincing people that they're never gonna make it?
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>>53761661
I want to mark her with my scent!
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>>53761624
Not a daddy, but I could totally see a fierce older Paladin woman who's had a half-dozen children for the war effort, fighting to end the conflict once and for all!
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https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/5161631/
inb4 her skeleton gets killed by the party on sight
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Looking at the house rules, that makes me wonder what other game breaking feats there are. Blood Money, Leadership, Master Summoner, Sacred Geometry, and Augmented Psionic Reformation are listed, but what else falls under that umbrella?
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>>53761685
>>53761797

Apparently I was not the only one with that idea.
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Does anyone know what a Gathlain actually looks like? It was mentioned in a recently released book but for the life of me I can't find any art or pics of the damn things.
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>>53761867
S-sorry
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>>53761856
Fey Obedience (Magdh).
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>>53759369
>Pathfinder
Hey I've got an Eldritch Knight. Base Wizard (Conjuration), Going Dimensional Savant route.
I have the opportunity to retrain my 1 level Melee class, and was wondering what /tg/ thinks the best options are.
>Already played magus in another group, trying something different.

Current thought processes have been
Brawler (Snake-Bite). full BAB and Sneak attack, (Unarmed for Style feats maybe?!?)
Brawler (Vanilla). full BAB, Retrainable feat. Unarmed again.
Slayer (Witch hunter), +2 Study reliant to the current campaign.
Fighter (Vanilla) and start working on another feat chain.
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>>53761797
Pharasma would personally shit all over this woman.

Fucking abysmal concept.
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>>53762089
>Heretic of
She's a Black Blooded Oracle on the divine side, so it's not like she depends on Pharasma for her spells anyway.
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>>53762130
No, I mean like come to her house and break her knees with a divine bat. Just ruin her, knock her teeth out, fuck her up really bad so she quits her shit.
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>>53762160
She's only level 4, Pharasma has bigger fish to fry.
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>>53762177
>Pharasma waits until the Late Game and then does it

That's actually a lot funnier. Like a little Book 5 interruption or something. Party's doing its thing, and then suddenly one of them just gets fucking ganked by a Major Deity.
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>>53762199
Y-yeah well
Come on dude look at this guy he looks so friendly and cuddly
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>>53761797
>gets killed by the party on sight
Realistically though, I mean it's a skeleton. It's a fodder mob. Free XP. Even if it's like, probably CR 2 or 3 or something, the party are level 4 gestalts. Your character would have to jump in and say NONONO DON'T KILL immediately unless she wants her precious skeleton to get one-turned before she gets her turn in initiative. And then you need to explain why someone disguised as an elf is speaking in undercommon (since you DON'T HAVE FUCKING COMMON ON YOUR SHEET) and defending an undead abomination.
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>>53762213
Nah. I'm not buying it. Maybe Tuv will, though. I don't know how he feels about skellies. That might be his fetish. Maybe he's an old Diablo II fan.
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>>53762240
Is Pharasma even heavily involved in WotR? I haven't really looked at the AP beyond the cursory overview and general concept. I mean I could see it being a big problem if she's actually part of the plot.
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>>53761873
Just phoneposting, have a pic on my computer though. They look like fairies with wings where the feathers are made of bark.
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>comparing PF to 5e
>lel PF is bloated and for rule autists 5e lets you do whatever you want and is so simple lel
>meanwhile over at 5e general
>HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST TO CHANGE CASTER ATTRIBUTE FROM INT TO WIS REEEEEEEEEE

I swear I don't know what these people do in a hobby that involves making shit up on a constant basis.

My gripe is much less with the game than with the idiots who claim its adaptability superiority over PF and then act exactly like they were playing PF2.
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>>53760402
Just how lewd is the WotR game going to be? Nonlewd? Or hyperlewd?
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>>53762254
I don't think so. A lot of it depends on how married Tuvarkz is to accuracy.

Iomedae SHOULD be fucking pissed (And she's already fucking pissed in this AP, so that's very, very bad) because necromancers literally killed her waifu and then defiled the body (Arazni, killed by Tar-Baphon and raised by Geb.) It's not even generic "Goodly God dislikes Negative Energy" drivel like it is normally. Iomedae has a highly personal reason to pull the trigger on necromancer types.
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>>53761873
>>53762264
Okay, found the artist so here, gathlain pic
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>>53762288
Oh yeah, Iomedae is big in this AP right? fug, we'll see.
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>>53762299
Thank you vert much anon!
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>>53762089
>>53762213
>>53762254
I just don't get why people think they can play openly practicing Necromancers and think it won't come with some serious consequences in the fluff. The undead are seen with almost universal disgust across the continent, especially in the North. It's like being shocked when the party kills the cult leader at the end of a quest.
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>>53762316
>Iomedae is big in this AP right?

I'm laffin' m8
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>>53762288
Friendly reminder that disease and undeath came into the world because Urgathoa fled the procession of petitioners seeking their Final Reward. The very existence of undeath owes itself to an act of Neutral Evil, and since then every notable necromancer in the lore has been either a monster or a tyrant.
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>>53762346
It's because /tg/ has been stroking their putrid deathboner for too long with all that insipid talk of "good necromancy."
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>>53762384
I never liked how unnatural the Sorceress's tits were in her art, like either they don't obey physics or if they DID than they'd be floppy navel knockers.
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>>53762409
>sorceress
>unnatural tits
>disobeying physics
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>>53762346
Oh I'm not shocked, mind; I'm pretty familiar with the floof making raising dead dudes literally Worse Than Hitler(tm). Still, I mean considering that shit has really fucking hit the fan this time, and that Alfheiðr is generally a good person *besides* thinking undead is really cool and doesn't afraid of skeleton, and is motivated to stop everything from going to shit, it might slide, at least temporarily. I just really wanted to play a Dread Necro desu.
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>>53762389
Pish posh; I wasn't about to let some dried-out old bat tell me when to stop having fun!
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>>53762409
It used to bother me, but her mannerisms are just too cute, so now I've embraced the tiddies.
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>>53762408
>cannot use his imagination
>what is calling on your tribe's ancestors to protect the children
>what is redeeming evil guys by using their bodies to hit more evil guys
>what is not being a scaredly little chicken when we talk about death and death magic
>what is the mexican day of the dead and its associated mythos perceiving skellingtons as not spoopy because that'd just be autistic christian superstition
I'm sorry for you.
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>>53762389
>an act of opposing an epitome True Neutral is Neutral Evil
This is really fucking weird. Wouldn't the opposite of Neutral be LE, CE, LG, or CG?
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>>53762493
>imagination
It was a thing in 3.5, just like good liches.
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>>53762505
>Good Liches
Not sure if you're trying to be smart but there's an entire subgroup of Good Liches.
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Archlich
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So wait, a Cleric of Pharasma would fit in WotR, right?
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>>53762552
>when the fanatical cleric of pharasma and the fanatical heretic of pharasma in one party
Council of Nicaea: Pharasma edition when?
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>>53762505
It's setting. You can change it all around if you ever so will to. Figures, you actually have the power in roleplaying games. You don't need to be right in your argument, you only need to make a compelling one so that it's legit if you use it as canon.

That's how I handle morality in my games.

Players sometimes use solutions that I disagree with, but they're still -solutions- and so I rule that they did their job, which is, coming up with solutions, and so, they get rewarded and story turns out in their favour. There are some consequences but globally they are treated as side effects, and not failure. I do it when they take solutions I politically agree with too.
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>>53762493
All that is irrelevant because we are dealing with an established setting, son. Like, I get it. It's fun to be different and edgy and shit. You aren't the only one. Unfortunately, your bad habits corrupt wayward youngsters like our Chinese friend upthread, and now he thinks he can play a necromancer in a story about Righteous heroes working with the Inheritor, a goddess who will stab you in your whore mouth for being a lichfag ghoulfucker.

I liked Diablo 2 as well, Anon. That means jack shit when we're talking about Golarion for a game set in Golarion.
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Reposting this in the hopes of getting some feedback. The One of Many vigilante

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H7wr5FBnvhH7C2m_azoxT0mh3jTWjnVTwHjVW9tiZB4/edit?usp=sharing

The idea's been sitting around for a while, I just never got around to finishing it. Is it good? Is it total garbage? Let me know.
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>>53762575
You still aren't explaining why using necromantic power makes you a bad person. It's like blaming spoons for making you fat.

Skeletons are like spoons, Anon. It all matter what you do with them.
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>>53762575
Hey, there's an Iomedae worshiper in Blingmaker and he seems pretty relaxed about a Necromancer being in the party.
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>>53762575
Dude I know that actual necromancy is Evil, stop trying to paint me as someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

>established setting
That's why I pinged her as Lawful Evil instead of how she actually behaves, Lawful Netural or Neutral Good - because raising dead as prolifically as she does, period, makes her Evil automatically.

>Iomedae
Iomedae is a fucking faggot and she's literally worse than Saranae

>>53762608
Using necromancy is Evil because it raises Undead, which are Evil beings in a only slightly lesser sense than Devils. Summoning a Bearded Devil is still Evil, even if you use the big guy to stop a genocide. The act of summoning devils is evil, just as the act of summoning or raising undead is evil.
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>>53762579
Literally a straight upgrade in all ways.
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>>53762579
EXPECT US
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>>53762647
How bad is Sarenrae?
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>>53762639
That's probably only because the player can't actually make any moves against the necromancer's player. It's an OOC thing. No PvP. I'd wager the player doesn't feel good about it. But this is just me speculating.
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>>53762665
In the wreckage, brother?
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>>53762647
Iomedae is a literal saint; Jacobs is just a fucking hack who doesn't understand justice and hangs around with a bunch of other hacks who are mad at their parents for not "understanding them" or some other bullshit.
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>>53762684
>Iomedae is a literal saint
No, she's Jesus Christ with a dash of Saint Peter.
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>>53762608
Skeletons are not inert tools, they will seek out and kill people when given the opportunity.
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>>53762639
>>53762680
There's a Pharasmin too. An Iomedaean AND a Pharasmin and they can't even deal with that shit?

Pathetic. There will be a whole symphony of trumpets waiting for them when their time comes.
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>>53762703
This, they even have cathedrals and churches to her.
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>>53762704
Correction: Skeletons are mindless automatons that generally wander about in a certain area, and will attack living beings they see, but don't actually seek and destroy.
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>>53762654
Is that a good thing or...?
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>>53762703
That's fair.
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>>53762730
It's a good thing in the sense that there's nothing wrong with it, and a bad thing in the sense that there's nothing wrong with it. It might throw off balance.
I'm not him, I like it fine.
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>>53762717
The Pharasman explicitly caused a scene and actually blew the party's cover because he saw the Necromancer with an undead creature. This was in the greentexts.
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>>53762273
Depends on the party, honestly. And the amount of ladyknights.

>>53762288
Iomedae is Iomedae, although the other gods who have a stake in the crusade will not let her do as she pleases.
>>53762684
Nah.
>>53762703
Even less so.
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aaaaaaaaaa I want to crusade for unrequited love!
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>>53762050
You'll be shit no matter what so
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>>53762608
Yeah, if spoons fucking broke into your house and forcefed you fucking lard, you dumb fuck. Skeletons are monsters! They're omnicidal death robots!
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>>53762762
>Even less so.
Whether or not you believe she acts like the Son actually would, the symbology is obvious.
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>>53762745
Well, if he's still reading, comments are enabled on the doc and I'd love to be able to tweak it more.
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>>53762758
Is he gonna string her up? Stoke a great big bonfire? Tie her to some stones?
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>>53760920
T H E M E T A I S

/y/

Just accept it, give me my /y/ meta already
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>>53762762
>And the amount of ladyknights.
Girls can't do that with each other!
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>>53762608
You're confusing the act of necromancy with the act of employ skeletons. Control Undead is not Evil unless you use it to actually do evil, but Create, Raise, and Summon Undead are Evil spells because you're creating undead. You could probably, theoretically speaking, be a Good necromancer if you have a bunch of zombies 100% under your control and use it to do a bunch of Good acts that offset the Evil of raising dead dudes, but raising the dudes by itself is an action seperate from using them.
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>>53762762
>Iomedae is Iomedae, although the other gods who have a stake in the crusade will not let her do as she pleases.

Tuv, why you gotta disappoint like this? You coulda been a contendah!
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>>53762810
Is trap /y/ okay?
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>>53762841
NO
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>all this emphasis on ladyknights
>just wanted to make a DILF
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>>53762785
SYMBOLISM, THE WORD YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS SYMBOLISM.
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Why is Pharasma's favoured weapon a dagger?
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>>53762869
Dude it's almost noon and I haven't slept for 28 hours
Go easy on me
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>>53762873
Because she gonna stab a ho
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>>53762873
Its what she uses to shank necromancer bitches
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>>53762873
*stabs u in back*
Express One-Way Ticket to the Spire for one.
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>>53762823
And that's where the DM swoops in.

>>53762838
Because my favorite flavors of Lawful Good are Damerrich, Ragathiel, and Asmodeus
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>>53762898
Tuv, how do you feel about the Crimson Templar PrC?
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>>53762898
>spoiler

Aw, you're one of those fuckers. You people are like roaches around here, I swear.
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>>53762898
>Asmodeus as LG
inb4 Necromancy is LG
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>>53762898
You know every time you open your mouth it makes me want to apply to your campaign less
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>>53762647
You've never tried to raise a nice person, have you?

The act of stopping a genocide is good and far outweighs summoning a Bearded Devil. Because if we're going with your logic, Paladins are evil for slapping the delicate cheeks of evildoers.

>is from some tribe in buttfuck nowhere
>life is shit, assholes all around, land is quite dead, we take what we get
>never bother fucking with the human villages in greener pastures, they don't talk to us and we don't talk to them, we have our gods and they have theirs, they think we're monsters anyway
>mom was a necromancer and I was born with special talent for necromancy
>become prodigy necromancer, the hope of the whole tribe, lots of pressure, lots of work to not let them down
>keep losing loved ones and warriors to assholes
>raise the dead and my uncle and my former best friend and use them to fight instead, no more dead
>don't even get to talk to my bff, single tear rolling from my cheek, but such is life (and death) in my duty
>assholes attack the human villages
>tribe says it's the humies' problem
>it's a slaughter
>women and children first (to be slaughtered)
>their god doesn't protect them and shit, none of them are pallies or clerics, they're just some hopeless settlement getting dicked in all senses of the term
>decide to intervene anyway
>raise the dead and my uncle and my bff in life and death to beat the shit out of them assholes
>raise the fallen assholes to beat up their own guys
>save the women and children first, outsanding job
>even rescuscitate most people except granpa who actually died of old age during the fight
>god's little lambs are saved
>high-five my dead bff and remember I'm still sad

>get instasmitten

>fucking what

>>53762575
Now I understand we're talking about a death-hating nazi and yeah that's questionable but you could turn it that way like, he's trying to prove to the goddess that the whole undead using deal could be redeemed when you got nothing else on hand.
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>>53762916
pic related
>>53762918
Which of the two?
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>>53762873
The dagger is a weapon used to end a life or cut an umbilical cord.
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>>53762940
>The act of stopping a genocide is good and far outweighs summoning a Bearded Devil
Correct, but the act of summoning a Bearded Devil, by itself, is Evil, this is not debateable, the Summon Bearded Devil spell specifically has an Evil descriptor.
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How do you feel about beastmen, /pgg/? Lizardfolk, Minotaurs, Lycanthropes (weretigers, werebears, weregators, etc), Catmen like Tabaxi, etc?

Can they be 'good daddies'?
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>>53762880
It's a quote from Boondocks Saints.
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>>53762704
Did you know there was one inside of you right now?

>>53762828
Well yeah, maybe; but basically the textbook definition of "necessary evil" then.
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>>53762881
>>53762889
>>53762892
Great, now I'm trying to figure out if Inquisitor/Slayer is viable. I want to be a Pharasma worshipper that shanks the fuck out of necromancers but still buries them properly.
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>>53762979
>but basically the textbook definition of "necessary evil" then.
Necessary Evil is still Evil, that's why it's called Necessary Evil and not Necessary Good.
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>>53762975
Fuck off Rory
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>>53762940
The idea that necromancy is your only resort is contrived in all situations except one where your character literally has it thrust upon them by some higher party that plants the ability within them. Otherwise, the bitch should've studied another type of magic, because they're easier, less controversial, less Evil, and more effective.
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>>53762807
I don't know, I don't remember what happens in the greentexts afterward. It seems like things are being kept from PvP purely by OOC intervention, which is a goddamn terrible way to do things.
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>>53762975
Do kitsune count?

Can a kitsune be a good and caring daddy?
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>>53762971
Sure. As long as it doesn't prevent me from being Good on the whole.

>>53762975
Ya forgot one!
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>>53762946
Satan, you dummy. Ladyknights are cute as shit, but Satan is Literally Satan. That's hard to get around.
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>>53763001
Its almost like putting a pharasman and a necromancer in a party was a fucking bad idea

Dodged a bullet on Blingmaker, gotta say.
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>>53762946
Oh, cool. I was thinking of a Paladin of Ragathiel eventually becoming a full fledged Crimson Templar during the campaign.
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>>53762981
Sanctified Slayer is an Inquisitor Archetype that does exactly this.

If you prefer to emphasize the Slayer side, Stygian Slayer works for a spooky assassin murderer.

That way, you can spend your other half on something really powerful and become Way Strong.
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>>53762999
This man speaks wisdom, the only way your character is going to know Necromancy is if they studied under what is effectively equal parts Death Cult and the most stereotypical type of totalitarian bullshit imaginable. Saying you had "no other choice" but to be a card-carrying Nazi in a world where Nazis are despised is stupid.
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>>53763001
Weren't they in a tussle in the greentext, though? Maybe they'll fight it out when they get a chance.
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>>53762995
Well ain't that a nice mechanic?

"Okay so I gotta summon an archfiend so he hoofstomps the evil prince's face to death, you guys please help me hide that from Pelor, you know, my god that I actually worship as well"

>and what about the party pally

"Look I have my opinions about Jake's lack of pragmatism and you know that but I respect his dedication and please for his sake let's hide it from him too so that we don't fuck him with a moral dilemma."

>>53762999
>Otherwise, the bitch should've studied another type of magic, because they're easier, less controversial, less Evil, and more effective.
But I specifically said there were no other types of magic and it was her special talent

Do you not know what "take what we can get" means
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>>53762981
>I want to be a Pharasma worshipper that shanks the fuck out of necromancers but still buries them properly.

You don't need to be a specialized class to do this, you only need to be a practicing Pharasman. Hatred of the undead is hard-coded into their very dogma.

>>53763077
I don't think so? There was something about mopping up the fight and Andrik getting a golden arm, but fuck if I know the rest. The Necromancer is still there, and it sounds like the Pharasman's literally the only person who has issue with it.
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What about a Leonal the Cleric summoned who swore an oath to protect you? Is that 'daddy material'?


>>53762996

You wish I was Rory.

>>53763002

Not burly and fluffy enough.

>>53763003

But gnolls smell like corpses and rape, anon, thbat's hardly daddy material!
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>>53763108
>>53762975
Jesus fucking Christ, just make a Rougarou and be done with it.
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>>53763049
What would you recommend for the path of becoming Way Strong?
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>>53763094
>the religion of 'undeath is an abomination' has a problem with a necromancer

Really makes you think
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>>53763108
>But gnolls smell like corpses and rape, anon, thbat's hardly daddy material!
In your setting maybe

In my setting they bathe twice a day.
If they don't it's because, well, where the fuck do you find water for a bath during dry season?

They're actually shocked when they get told humans bathe once a WEEK.
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>>53763092
>Do you not know what "take what we can get" means

Choosing Evil instead of death is still Evil, Anon.
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>>53763134
>Le Noble Savage Gnoll
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>>53763123
Personally? I'd combine Slayer on one side with Cleric on the other to make my own Super Inquisitor with Full Casting and Full BAB, and then go to town.
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>>53763135
Forcing someone to choose between Evil or death is Evil too, Anon, when you're an omnipotent God who could bestow his power to the hopeless.

If people turn to raising undead to defend YOUR flock and a necromancer has more compassion than you, you know you're a piece of shit.
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>>53763001
Hold up, who's playing the Pharasman and who's playing the Necromancer?
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>>53762999
He's not the one who wrote the app, but in my case she's a twofold spontaneous caster; firstly a Black Blooded Oracle aka "cure light wounds tears you up but inflict light wounds heals you and there's nothing you can do about it you're just fucked", and secondly a Dread Necro. She can *kind of* fight otherwise, but not at all at the level expected of a 4th gestalt.

>>53763130
Technically it's the religion of "life and death is just a natural cycle" and they're assblasted at undead because they're neither.

>>53763134
Hyena are not known for being clean, Neither are Gnolls.

>>53763092
>okay so I gotta summon an archfiend
Evil.

>hoofstomps the evil prince's face to death
Good.
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>>53763134

>They're actually shocked when they get told humans bathe once a WEEK.

Medieval bathing was quite common and cities had bathhouses for a very long time. The only thing that made them go away was the fucking Black Death and the church capitalizing on the moment because, surprise, prostitution was also very common at bath houses.

People still bathed privately afterward. Bathhouses never fell out of style in other parts of the world, too. Generally speaking we are a very clean species. Most issues with water were people pulling from dirty sources and le Roman lead pipes.
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>>53763162
There's no omnipotent god. There are contending hosts of shitters like you that love zombies on one hand, and noble heroes on the other.

Learn the damn setting, m8. Once again, Diablo 2 was a fun game, but we're talking about Golarion right now.
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>>53763162
>If people turn to raising undead to defend YOUR flock and a necromancer has more compassion than you, you know you're a piece of shit.

This is the part where you start telling us about Industrial Necromancy and how the old man in his bed is crying because "evil" kings are ordering "heroes" to kill the zombies in the fields and skeletons in the factories, right?
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>>53763162

>D&D gods
>omnipotent

i'm laffin

these nigs die and lose power ALL THE TIME
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>>53763184
Do remember that the act of USING undead is not Evil, the act of creating them or bringing them over is.
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>>53763146
>hyenas bathe all the time and that's the joke
Read a book sometimes

>>53763166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOKNLwq94Zs

And monkeys are not known for NOT throwing shit, but I don't see anyone past 6 who still does it.

>what is different settings

MOTHERFUCKER I SAID IN MY FUCKING SETTING
DO YOU HAVE A BRAIN
DO YOU COMPUTE WHAT YOU'RE EVEN ANSWERING AT
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>>53763208
And in MY setting gnolls are a universally 2 int race that exists solely to murder and rape, with no concept of getting clean
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>>53763183
>>53763184
The whole point of the story was that the god was nowhere to be found when his people got massacred but he was of course totally here to smite the necromancer.

>>53763201
Then don't bullshit the necro for doing what he has to lol
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>>53763208
>And monkeys are not known for NOT throwing shit
...okay?
>I don't see anyone past 6 who still does it
I get you're trying to throw a lowkey insult but unfortunately, homo sapiens sapiens, along with all other hominoid apes, are not considered monkeys.

>in my setting
Who cares about your setting though?
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What is Aether Circus compatible with?

It's treated as an area, but what type? Would it, say, be compatible with GM-Pact's attunement for radius increase if taken 4 times?

Is it 'instantaneous due to being fire-and-forget, and thus compatible with Aether Focus?

Is there even such a thing as a sacred, profane or alchemical speed bonus? Where could one get or make one of those?
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>>53763155
Sounds agreeable. Guess I should write something up.
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>>53763243
Well, cool. That's yours I mean.

But you can't just generalize like that, unless you say "Golarion gnolls", which probably do smell but were never wrote anywhere as being rapists.

That's just pgg who made that up.
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>>53763249
Anon, you...you don't...you're fucking babbling about an irrelevant OC anecdote that has no applicability to the discussion and trying to use it to justify magical atrocities in a defined setting.

Please stop.
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>>53763264
>>But you can't just generalize like that
Yes you can though? Do I need to fucking specify Golarion Wraiths when I say they can create spawn or Golarion Lichs when I say they can basically put you in stasis by touching your tits?
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>>53763207
Except the Necromancer in all these cases seem to be raising undead - they're not using those bodies, why not use them for "good?"

>>53763249
Then it was a shitty story molded for that anon's particular gripes against a school of magic being considered evil. In Golarion the act of Necromancy is straight up Evil with a capital E, it is the cause of disease in the world and it is the cause of Arazni's death and it is the cause of almost every vile undead-related atrocity in the setting. Tar-Baphon and the Whispering Way alone are enough cause to mistrust Necromancy.
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>>53763264

Don't Golarion Gnolls worship Lamashtu? That's pretty much a species wide-religion that condones rape.
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>>53763252
>Who cares about your setting though?
Me, and that's the fucking point. Why would gnolls in my setting abide by how you make them in YOUR setting?

>homo sapiens sapiens, along with all other hominoid apes, are not considered monkeys.
Well homo crocuta can't be considered hyenas either because they're evolved as well. I doubt lack of hygiene is a trait given how all animals actually groom themselves in some way, save for fish and really dumb shit.

>>53763292
Yes?

Because the whole entire fucking world of fantasy isn't limited to Golarion? Christ.

Pathfinder is a system, remember.
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>>53763264
>but were never wrote anywhere as being rapists.

>They're savages
>They're raiders
>They love to murder and cannibalize people
>They worship a Chaotic Evil goddess that encourages interspecies sex, even rape

>But they don't rape

???
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>>53763318
Nobody cares about your homebrew setting gnollposter, didn't you have a discord so you wouldn't shit up the threads anymore? Fuck off.
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>>53763318

Golarion is the default setting and all of the 1pp monster entries, et al, are assumed to be from Golarion and designed for Golarion.

Ergo, we can make a safe assumption that by default anything regarding 1pp Pathfinder material will be about, for and within, Golarion.
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>tfw you will never lick a dragon lady knights abs

Just kill me now fampai
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>>53763271
You're missing the point, really, really hard.

>>53763311
This again. Nowhere is it written rape in the Lamashtan religion. This happened two days ago.

>>53763335
Read above and quit just making shit up
I'm thinking it's your fucking wishful thinking making you believe hard that gnolls rape.

>>53763338
Actually nobody cares about your conception of shit either, so, you can stuff it with your autism of trying to impose your canon on others.
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>>53763374
>reeee people don't know my homebrew setting i'm going to shit up the thread like a retard reee
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>>53763347
Understandable. However you can still refluff it, and keep the racials such as +2STR and whatnot.

>>53763391
>still can't come up with one proof or quote that implies official Lamashtu is involved in a cult of rape
We talked about it two days ago Anon and you went out screeching.
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>>53763271
>>53763249
You two are talking about different things
In Golarion, using undead is not evil. Creating them is. It's that simple.

>>53763296
>Except the Necromancer in all these cases seem to be raising undead - they're not using those bodies, why not use them for "good?"
The act of raising undead is Evil; the act of thereafter using undead is not necessarily Evil. It just so happens that most necromancers tend to be overall Evil or otherwise fucking insane, since it takes a certain kind of mindset to so prolifically create and use the dead. Also, inless you are an Outsider made of elemental alignment or else mindless, it is theoretically possible to have any alignment; it's simply the case that certain types tend towards certain alignments, often overwhelmingly. It's the logic behind Good orcs, turned up to eleven. Sentient Undead aren't literally made of elemental evil like Daemons, Demons, and Devils, so it follows there's no real reason there can't be Lawful Neutral Skeletal Champions guarding their father's tomb or something, just that it's REALLY hard. Hell there's even a Good succubus memeing around somewhere in the lore (even if she went though basically ten ranks of mythic trials for it), so it's not literally impossible - just highly improbable.

>>53763318
>yes?
Epic, everyone keep it in mind; before you mention or discuss ANY monster, please append "in Golarion" lest you trigger fucking retards.

>>53763408
Nobody cares about your setting though.
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>>53763374
>Nowhere is it written rape in the Lamashtan religion.

>A Chaotic Evil Goddess that calls for her followers to "fill the wombs" and encourages dogs to fuck women and minotaurs to cocksleeve half-elves and produce monstrous offspring does not like rape and does not encourage rape

>I will spread the Mother’s seed. If the blind cannot be taught to see, their children can.
>I will spread the Mother's seed.

OH YEAH, THEY'LL SPREAD IT CONSENSUALLY.
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tl;dr Gnolls are bad daddies who will vore you after raping you. Heard it hear folks!
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>>53763424
t. Rory

Stop shitting up this thread with your autistic delusions. Go make a Discord for your kind or something and stop runing this nice general.
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>>53763424
I think people also read Bloodforge, which has a half-gnoll race specifically born out of sex slavery from humanoids.
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Who is this Tuvarkz and what else has he run?
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>>53763441
>t. Rory
No, he's right this time if that's actually Rory. Gnolls being rapist savage retards is canonical.
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>>53763441
I was agreeing with you that Lamashtu is indifferent or even encourages rape, and that means Gnolls would undoubtedly want to rape.
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>>53763417
>durr I can't stand people having different imagination
Just stop
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>>53763457
No no no, Gnolls are savage cannibalistic retarded raiders who worship a Goddess of Monster Sex and Impregnation, but they do NOT rape! They don't!
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>>53763472
I can stand it, I don't care about it, and you shouldn't assume anyone else does either. When we say "gnolls" without any modifier, we talk about the version people are guarenteed to care about, aka the 1pp canon version.
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>>53763457
>>53763459
No.

No and no.

How many times do we have to say it, thirstposters. That is some shit you're purposedly trying to push because your idea of a pgg discussion is I WANNA BE BRED BY DOGS.

And all I have to say is begone.

Give a real proof from Paizo, in fact go and mail whatever CEO they have, or until the, no more (You)'s for you, but stop false flagging. Just stop. It's time to stop.
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>>53763515
>real proof from Paizo
Lamashtu's existence?
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>>53763417
"The Demon Queen’s followers ritually eat hallucinogenic
plants and poisonous animals to alter their perceptions of the
mortal world, sometimes causing permanent mental changes and
insanity, though in most cases only causing vivid dreamlike or
nightmarish visions. They have also been known to poison others
with these materials in order to sow chaos. Though most are too
crude and direct to formulate complex attacks against the psyche,
particularly devious members of the cult have been known to
harass and demoralize opposing groups (such as monk orders
and religions that espouse physical perfection or beauty) with
horrifying campaigns of torture, rape, and humiliation intended
to break their enemies’ spirits."

- Rise of the Runelords #5: Sins of the saviors

Are we done yet?
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>>53763522
That proves what? That mutated children exist?

That's your definition of rape?

>there are half-orcs but no half-gnolls
>but gnolls worship Lamashtu
>GNOLLS MUST BE RAPISTS

:thinking:
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>>53763515
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>>53763550
see
>>53763546
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>>53763546
Did you quote the wrong person
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>>53763554
Aka "the mask of Gloriana"
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>>53763566
yes
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>>53763556
>>53763546
You know what's funny? I found the exact same text, here.

http://karzoug.info/srd/deities/Lamashtu.htm

Only nowhere features the word rape.

You're really a little shithead, aren't you?

>>53763554
>I can't understand the difference between impregnation and rape
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>>53763456
He ruined a WotR campaign by deciding to be DOOMGUY MEETS ANTMAN in a party full of Nocticulan heretics
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>>53763596
Do I have to screenshot it? Ok.
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>>53763596
Just catching up on all this crap, but, I wouldn't be surprised if words like rape were removed from later works or editions/errata now that it's some SJW trigger that reminds paizo writers of that time someone used visual recognition to navigate a locale and caught said writer in their effective field of vision, thereby "almost raping" them.
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>>53763596
Blown the fuck out
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>>53763654
i believe
>>53763626
blows him right the fuck back out
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>>53763626
There's definitely no rape in there! Lamashtu is a good goddess! Unlike the chaotic evil Erastil! She only cares about ensuring non-human babies are born you monster racist! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>53763572
What if there were two Gloriana? Two dark mothers to breed monsters?
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>>53763626
See >>53763638
Your shit has been retconned because autists like you couldn't handle it so that ends up making me right.

Lamashtu today isn't a rape god no matter how much you try.

And no nobody cares about your homebrew where she is.
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>[12:39 PM] Tuvarkz: I'll probably end up doing something about who has the best and worst chances once there's enough applications
DM giving public reviews confirmed.
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>>53763663
Uh no she still is a rape god, it's just not explicitly using the word 'rape' anymore.
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>>53763654
>>53763660
>yay we can talk about rape on pgg now
Ok haha

See >>53763663
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>>53763663

>Chaotic Evil deity
>doesn't encourage rape

lol
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>>53763676
No

Since they don't use the word rape anymore

So

No

That's the point of removing the word rape
If it's hypothetic, then it's not official. If it's not official, it's not canon.
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>implying every 'fertile' creature they run across is going to consent
>implying they'd waste their horrible, evil time looking for people who want babies who are going to burst out of them and likely kill them
>implying that even if there were people to consent, that there would be enough of them to keep this horrible goddess in power

Does it hurt, reaching this far to make gnolls 'ok' for you to play?
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>>53763626
Is it still in the anniversary edition?
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>>53763665
>when Tuv comes into the thread and says "ur app is shit"
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>>53763700
>still no half-gnolls
>b-but surely they impregnate other species

Gnolls care a lot less about other species than orcs.
But nobody spergs when people play half-orcs, which would then be, half-rapists, because race.
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>>53763700
Oh wow, I thought you were talking about PLD
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If you play a Vigilante, you should never take Companion to the Lonely. Never!
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>>53763732
>half-gnolls
Read >>53763626.
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>>53763751
>refers to random, mostly non-permanent mutations as a sign of divine favour
>still no half-gnolls race borne out of rape like old half-orcs
I'm done with this 'conversation', I have shit to do.
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>>53763777
Yiff yiff motherfucker.
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>Finish my lvl 3 character for the upcoming campaign
>close all the 11 PFSRD tabs

Is there a more satisfying feeling?
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>>53763686
I fucking know, right?
I mean what are people even fucking thinking to get to such a disconnect?
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What fucking worlds are we in where someone actually thinks lamashtanism isn't a murdering psycho rapist religion. Just because they got a better PR person doesn't change the content.
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So I want to play a gnoll, but as a CE warpriest of Lamashtu? I seek to further Grand Mother Madness's blessings.
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>>53763819
The world with players not obsessed with the word rape. Is it really all you fucking care about when you play PF?
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>>53763777
Maybe gnoll rape can't produce halfgnolls, just deformed monsters or more gnolls.
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Is the ripsaw glaive any good on its own, or does it need a Vigilante build for it?
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>>53763829
Unironically apply with this to PLD.
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>>53763819
/pol/ is that way
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>>53763457
I've never seen Rory talk about gnolls after Overlewd except to disparage them.

Hell didn't he confirm that gnollposter discord was full of shitters who are in it to fuck up the thread
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>>53763858
>gnollposter discord
WHAT THE FUCK
HOW MANY FUCKING DISCORDS ARE THERE
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>>53763864
Too fucking many.
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>>53763834
Only enough to tell you to fuck off and stop defending a garbage CE deity
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>>53763834
It's all anyone who rolls a lamashtu worshiper cares about, for sure.
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>>53763845
You can't be a gnoll in PLD

Human, Troll-kin, or drow

And that's ignoring that Lamashtu isn't in the setting
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>>53763940
Apply as a necromancer drow who has a fetish for undead penis
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>>53763940
Lamashtu can't be in the setting. She invented it! PLD is the Fever Dream of a mad rape goddess!
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>>53763864
There's also a secret 2hu circlejerk Discord cabal.
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>>53763949
That'd be quite the boner
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>>53763976
Do eeeet
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>gnolls can't be good daddies

>hello adopted cub of unspecified race / half-race
>hello daddy gnoll
>did you have a good day at school
>no daddy I was bullied because I am of unspecified race / half-race
>say what now

>Lamashtu goddess of being a freakshow fucking help me I'm gonna go yeenshit

>hello Mr.Human
>fuck off gnoll
>it has come to your attention that your little human cub has been bullying mine at school
>you a rapist gnoll lel go back to the savanna
>If you don't fucking shut up and tell your kid to leave mine alone I will eat his brain in front of you then sacrifice your wife to Lamashtu and then rip off every part of your body with my teeth and hide the corpses in your larder
>haha of c-course Mr.Gnoll g-glad we could reach an understanding

>hello adopted cub did you have a good day at school
>yes daddy gnoll nobody bullied me
>will you teach me to ambush people with an axe tomorrow daddy gnoll
>yes my child you shall be conditionned for this harsh world so that you are stronger than the others and survive as I am a gnoll and therefore take care of my pack with compulsory loyalty

>ok sleep tite don't let the gnolls bite

>>53763858
>>53763864
There's no such thing as "gnollposter Discord"
I did have Rory however come in uninvited and sperg at me while I was trying to link up with someone that wanted to share ideas with me about some homebrew stuff. He's just looking for attention. So, don't give him any.
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>>53764013
I thought you were occupied.
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>>53764021
Sorry?
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>>53764035
See >>53763777; don't pretend it isn't you either.
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>>53764054
Rory is that you

Hi Rory

I still have no idea who you are or why your Discord avatar has such a blooming cleavage.
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>>53764013
Yknow I bet he wouldn't have sperged at you if you weren't shitting up the threads with your constant gnollshittery.

When not even RORY wants to be associated with you, you fucked up somehow.
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>>53764021
The fuck is that, the Dullahan equivalent of Siamese-twins?
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>>53764066
It's not Rory.
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>>53764084
Sekibanki, she can conjure extra floating heads that shoot fucking laser beams.
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>>53764084
It's what happens when you neck yourself.
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So what are some of the best Ensoulment characters for me to write my own character dynamics around? People with near guaranteed odds of getting in?
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>>53764080
Read: egocentric complex.

Turns out I'm, in fact, allowed to say what I want, and I am not, in fact, required to care about what you or your fair lady 'Rory' think of it.

If aforementionned fair lady does not want me to make fun of her she might want not to invade my Discord to screech that pgg belongs to her and that her reputation for jerking off to beast races is any related to my daily activities.
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>>53764127
C3 unless the schedule eats her alive
Rinta and Ceraphine unless Protag hates "celebs".
>>
>>53764091
I'll take your word for it random anonymous poster from the internets.
>>
>>53764130
Fuck off gnollposter
>>
Is there a dragonborn race for PF? Or some kind of mini dragon playable race?
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>>53764151
t. rory
>>
The Bias Engine has returned.

The Bias Engine has also reviewed the past few threads and come to declare that you are, in fleshmongrel jargon, "fags."

The Bias Engine will still put subjects up for review.

>>53764130
The meatbag the Bias Engine currently inhabits has declared that this anon is a "faggot." The meatbag also recommends that the terms "stupidly enormous faggot" be used in addition.

The Bias Engine thus declares that the Gnollposter is a STUPIDLY ENORMOUS faggot
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>>53764168
Company of Dragons has one. It's not very powerful but I think that's what the tiny dragon in Dragons 1 game is using.
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>>53764186
Based
Do the memelord waifu applications for Ensoulment: C3, Rintaelle, Derrin, Ceraphine, Itsuko, Auriela.
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>>53763257
Does that even count as an attack? It's not a weapon so anything that requires 'wielding' (even weapon shapes don't do wielding) won't work though. Some things might work if it counts as an attack though.
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>>53764186
I want you to roast the fuck out of foxtits
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>>53764190

Hmm maybe it wont be weird if my human paladin worships Apsu anyways
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>>53763698
Wait wait wait, hold on.

So the Chaotic Evil Demon Mother of Monsters that encourages their followers to breed with beasts and monsters and slaughter people and have sex and impregnate people and stick their dicks in people and fill them with seed...

... Only do it to those who consent? Wow! What a nice and caring goddess, she doesn't fill wombs that don't want to be filled, how considerate!
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>>53764202
Missed Jericho.
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>>53764222
>waifu
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>>53764224
Yes, and?
>>
>>53764135
Isn't Rintaelle's schedule about as bad as C3? Ceraphine seems like the only safe bet.
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>>53764246
I'd call you a faggot but that's still wrong because even a faggot's 'waifu' is still a husbando.
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>>53764127
C3 for sure.

Wild Surge's app (Illaria) most likely. Just because she brings an artist to the circle to pump out fanart and porn. But actually more importantly, because I'm like 90% sure her and Protag are friends going back way farther than /pfg/. If so, Protag would probably have to really hate her app to not give her a spot, but while it certainly isn't my favorite Illaria seems like a pretty good app for the campaign, with good ideas suffering from mediocre writing that will be overlooked by someone who knows the writer as a player.
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>>53764259
Wist is also GMT+8 AAAA MY SWEET ASHEN QT WIST but unlike Kawase she's in like twelve games so her schedule is actually even worse than his.
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>>53763888
Imagine being such a desperate thirsty Gnoll lover that you'd violently defend the honor and goodness of the Chaotic Evil deity they worship.
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>>53764265
Jericho's a girl.
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>>53764295
>Sex: Male
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>>53764275
Is she Australian?
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>>53764127
Jericho is one of the best to bounce off of because of how his story is structured.
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>>53764313
We don't know because she wisely hasn't said enough to get fucking doxxed
Flipland, Hong Kong, China, and Ausland are all probable.
>>
>>53764305
>believing DHB's reverse trap lies
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>>53764319
I wanna see Jericho get into a hotblooded rivalry with Rodrick as he's forced to reconcile whether the people he serves are the best for the people they serve
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>>53764202
The Bias Engine will consider these.

>>53764213
The Bias Engine will consider this.
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>>53764202
>>53764186
Don't forget Witch either
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>>53764275
>Ashen

What did he mean by this?
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>>53764447
Jericho absolutely deserves a spot.
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>>53764474
>Like Jericho
>Character will directly compete with him for a slot
aaaaaa
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>>53764447
Please continue with the JttW reviews.
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>>53764206
>>53763257
>Attacks
>Some spell descriptions refer to attacking. All offensive combat actions, even those that don't damage opponents, are considered attacks. Attempts to channel energy count as attacks if it would harm any creatures in the area. All spells that opponents resist with saving throws, that deal damage, or that otherwise harm or hamper subjects are attacks. Spells that summon monsters or other allies are not attacks because the spells themselves don't harm anyone.

As long as it does not specify "melee" or "ranged" your aether circus is attacks. As would magic missiles, really, which these kinda are in a way.

They are not wielded, they are not a weapon, they are not melee or ranged. I have no idea if they're considered instantaneous or duration based, since there's no concentration involved. Maybe a dev can clarify whether Aether Focus works with it for that. There's no attack roll involved so deadly aim will not work.

However, they do count as a valid "weapon" for purposes of specialization, so you could get extra damage that way.
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>>53764186
You're right. I'm a stupidly enormous faggot.
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Someone should make a young warrior protected by a divine fae-like spirit for Wrath of the Righteous! The Kellid are totally into animism, it fits!
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>>53764560
Would that be an Unchained Summoner, an Avowed with Guardian Spirit, a Magical Child Vigilante, or a Chosen One Paladin?
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>>53764591
Depends, William and Saoirse was Avowed (Fae) with Guardian Spirit. He could call upon other Guardian Spirits to serve him, but Saoirse was explicitly his main patron and Guardian (I think they even call her his patron in her codex entry?)
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>>53764591
>>53764653
Why not both?

Chosen One Paladin || Avowed (Fae or Celestial) with Guardian Spirit, your patron could be an emissary of the First World's Eldest, interested in ending the threat that the Worldwound poses and restoring the kingdom of Sarkoris so it may worship them once more.
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>>53764709
Because it's not gestalt, silly-billy!
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>>53764727
It is, anon. The Wrath of the Righteous campaign in question is Gestalt.
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>>53761483
Because it is, but mostly because it's a summoner. T2 and up were a mistake
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>>53761922
Anything other feats that are super broken?
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>>53764560
I am making a Magical Child Vigilante | Spirit Guide Oracle.

She's protected by Nocticula and Desna who signed a contract to assfuck Lammy-chan~
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>>53764709
>your patron could be an emissary of the First World's Eldest, interested in ending the threat that the Worldwound poses and restoring the kingdom of Sarkoris so it may worship them once more.

There's an even easier solution, anon. The patron is not an Emissary of the First World, he or she's the Patron Spirit of the character's clan.
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Which non-meme apps do you like, /pgg/?
>>
>>53764916
Gaius, Matheo, Sibyl. Latter two aren't really all there last I checked but I'm sold on their philosophies and I'm looking forward to them.
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>>53764916
Mine.
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>>53764937
Matheo has been talked about fairly regularly and on top of that is made by a celeb player. Try again.

>>53764940
I feel the same way about my own, anon.
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>>53764916
I like Itsuko's and Niccolo's!
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If I want to play something like an UMonk or an Avowed whose secondary shape is Aether Grasp, but don't want to dedicate my ENTIRE BUILD to grappling, what is the minimum number of feats I should invest to make grappling anything but a massive joke and waste of time? Obviously it's going to be suboptimal, but like, is Improved Grapple+Greater Grapple+Rapid Grappler "good enough"? Do I NEED the standard action CDG feat?
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>>53764979
>Itsuko
>One of THE most discussed apps
That's a meme app, anon.
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>>53765009
>is Improved Grapple+Greater Grapple+Rapid Grappler "good enough"?
Yes

>Do I NEED the standard action CDG feat?
No, that's cancer and ruins encounters
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>>53765012
I thought a meme app is just a joke app/one that isn't serious.
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>>53765033
>that's cancer and ruins encounters

is it really more cancerous than "I charge in and down him in one flurry"?
>>
New Thread:

>>53765069
>>53765069
>>53765069
>>53765069
>>53765069
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>>53764447

Consider Tarkus, Kyoot, Jessup and Neelu from Golden Chalice!
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>>53765050
Maybe it means that for you, but for me, when I say meme I mean like in the classical sense, the ones that people talk the most about in these threads. In that context, Itsuko is a meme app, and Niccolo arguably is for how often he gets brought up when it comes to discussing party dynamics.
>>
>>53765075
>still trying to keep /pfg/ in
>page 8
>anime OP
>>
>>53759460
Be an unchained rogue and throw light weapons.
Extra good if you pick daggers and use Deific Obedience for Pharasma
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