Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1550: Strike Deserves Hand Holding Edition

>>53725461
She deserves a lot more than that.

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>>53725436
...no. Trust me, anon, don't do it. I've seen what she puts Kyon through, it's not worth it. Haruhi has a textbook case of histrionic personality disorder, even without subconscious reality warping that's still awful to deal with in a romantic partner.

>>53725441
No, that's if she falls in love and feels jilted. She created a new universe that was just her and Kyon that was overwriting the old universe because she was jealous of other people occupying his time.

>>53725468
So, does anyone have some ideas for drawbacks? Gauntlet is apparently stumped.

>>53725461
Strike deserves a subpar ham sandwich with their choice of drink.

>>53725468
I don't like how you handled canon companions. Te extra origin and capstone they all get feels like it makes no sense, since it usually changes the character you just picked up greatly. And if it doesn't, it's because they already had something like that anyway. I think you should keep it to just a canon companion option, not that combined with an import to the same jump they are already in.

>>53725468
Sorry, Gaunlet, I don't really have much besides "looks good". I like the perks, you've captured the feel of the setting, I'm happy with this jump. Gonna go Drop In with a few General perks, I think.

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>>53725461
Strike ain't bad. Kinda shabby but the earnestness makes up for it. Definitely needs an intervention for that crazy cult she got herself wrapped up in. Who knows what that weird emperor guy might trick her into doing.

>>53725468
Reminder that there are protocols for people like her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02OfZVyd6bE

>>53725507
No one cares. No one wants a reminder from you you nightmarish child murdering psychopath.

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>>53725479
This is a truth thing that you just said.

>>53725488
I'm sorry you don't like it anon.

>>53725493
People enjoying it is good enough.

>>53725507
banchô-Anon I understand that she triggers you in a trigger-like way but please at least keep this actually relevant to the Jump.

>>53725513
it's not like they stayed dead

>>53725507
Reminder that reminders are annoying and generally completely unnecessary. Including this one. As well as the reminder that will be posted in response to this reminder.

>>53725538
Dude, just fuck off. Literally no one wants to hear your opinion.

Okay I'm making some progress with the Items section for Bane's trilogy, but there's still quite a lot to write up. Any must have items (not slaves) that I should include beyond Star ships and notable Holocrons. Also, this:

>Notes of Belia Darzu 400 CP - It seems there’s no need for you to brave the deep core to reach Tython, for you already have extensive notes detailing the work of the Dark Lord of the Sith Belia Darzu - a master of the Sith Force technique of mechu-deru. The technique allows its practitioners to exert their influence over inanimate and robotic constructs. Through mechu-deru, mechanical structures could be bound to the will of the user and imbued with the power of the Force itself. Belia Darzu took it to an extreme in her creation of Technobeasts, Part machine, part organic alchemical constructs, these monsters infect living organisms with the nanogene spore, a technovirus that slowly lobotomises victims as they transition into loyal weaponised cyborgs. All of Darzu’s workings are detailed in these notes; with extensive study you may produce plagues beyond even this galaxy shaking abomination.

>>53725545
I don't see why I get So much flak for being awful when so many other jumpers are worse.

>>53725533
Can you at least explain why you are also giving them the import option when they already have stuff? I kind of expected a response so we could discuss this politely, since you asked for feedback, not to be brushed off without any explanation.

>>53725553
Because everyone else is playing a game and knows it is wrong in reality. You think this stuff is the right thing to do.

>>53725553
Because you are legitimately autistic and actually espouse the things you write your jumper doing, whereas other people are just writing a story or scenario.

>>53725551
That sounds cool. Creepy, but cool.

>>53725551
any chance of Orbalisk armor going in the items section?
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>>53725572
so wanting to improve things and imagining having the power to actually do it is bad, but imagining eating entire worlds and enslaving universes but not wanting to actually do it is okay?

>>53725533
Perhaps a drawback where you basically get Haruhi's personality? Attention seeking, childish, etc. Then another one could be you losing most of your emotions and social ability, becoming like Yuki.

>>53725554
It's to give them a leg up, as written in the pick itself. I mean the various factors I'd have means that balancing it is a nightmare to balance, but I guess I could re-do the entire canon companion import. Do you happen to have a suggestion?

Ignore Bancho. He's had this exact thing explained to him hundreds of times by now. He is either so retarded you will never convince him or actively trolling. Let him rot.

>>53725604
Yes. You are basically Hitler but lack the power to enforce your will, while others are just imagining themselves being Hitler in order to write a story, while not actually believing the stuff they write.

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>>53725468
TPDD it says there's a need to fill the holes punched through Space Time with someone/something. So every time you time travel you need to throw something/someone as big as you into the hole so that you can time travel? Or is this jus a fancy way of saying, you need a closed timeloop?

>>53725606
...I already gave a suggestion? Just make it a normal companion option. They don't need a leg up. A lot of the characters already have their own abilities. The Canon Companion option should be about just getting the Canon Companion, not them but with additional powers/traits that they never had, especially with how weird them getting a new origin can actually make them.

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>>53725604
I desire to drown you in hot dogs.

>>53725604
I am including a detachable version of the Orbalisk armour. The parasites will peel away with mental or verbal command on your part and can survive without you/

>>53725501
If it involves her growing a glorious pair like pic related, then we have a moral imperative to encourage her. And we should probably buy her a wardrobe thats just a liiiiitle too small. Because we care.

>>53725645
Those typos though... sorry for the eye sore.

>>53725606
It's not balanced anyway. You've for some reason done this really damn awkward "Imports get certain perks and not certain others, not just a base range of CP to spend on stuff". The CP amount each option is getting is totally unbalanced as well, with the various options having wildly different amounts given despite their prices not reflecting that.

>>53725551
>Forever Undecided
Your name sounds like a mall store that's a cross between a Hot Topic and a Forever 21.

>>53725659
Don't forget the base import doesn't even have consistency between what each import gets. One origin only gets their capstone but the others get everything but their capstone plus an extra perk on top.

>>53725637
How I understand it is that every time you travel in the past you destroy a bit of time/the past/whatever and so you'll need to ensure with your actions in the past that the future will actually come to be.

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>>53725479
>>53725533
> Need more drawbacks.
I dunno, it depends on how hard you want the drawbacks to be. I only saw the first season, but if you want, you could add in some personality drawbacks, like, "You're as much of a spaz as Haruhi is, and think all her hairbrained ideas are awesome," or, "You're as emotionally shut in as Yuki, and find it extremely difficult to express yourself at all, even if there's something really bothering you."
There was the anti-Haruhi gang, if I remember right, and also there was a computer club that got in a videogame war with Haruhi, so those could be a pretty good basis for Rival group drawbacks. Like, your very own little group of antagonists who do... something, I dunno.

And if you really want to get dumb and meta, you could make an amnesia drawback where you forget you are the jumper, but flavor it so that everyone (sans Haruhi, because she's in the same boat) knows that you are the jumper and is doing their damndest to make sure you don't remember, for whatever reason.
May or may not come with limited-but-not-infallible plot armor as everyone stumbles over themselves to protect you from yourself.

>>53725659
Jesus, you're right. The effective CP the 500cp companion option gets is fucking insane. Why would you do it like this instead of just saying you get those people as companions?

>>53725468
>>53725533
>>53725479
Huh, brainstorming ideas:

>+100 Push-over personality like Mikuru. Maybe you also get Haruhi's attention who will constantly make fun of you and abuse your personality for her benefit?
>+100 You're never satisfied with your hairstyle and people will make fun of you for constantly changing it
>+200 Something something closed spaces becoming more violent and destroying the world without your help.
>+300 Yuki recreates the world using Haruhi's powers. Ryouko gets your powers/immunity to them and it's on the hunt for any abnormalities on Yuki's ideal world. Try not to get killed or having Kyon killed?
>+??? Plot-bound perk where you basically take Kyon's place and have to make sure that Haruhi doesn't ends the world?

>>53725507
Yet she would still beat you. I really hope that you try something and end up killed.

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>>53725605
Nice one. Hrm 100 CP?

>>53725637
The later I'm afraid.

>>53725640
Yeah but then we'll get into the problem of people taking Yuki, whose DITE is way too giving and can hijack Haruhi's powers. I mean >>53725659 >>53725678 sure I'll get to work reworking the companions options.

>>53725685
Thanks for the idea Blue Catlike Anon!

>>53725697
Dunno I kind of shot myself in the foot on this one, but hey I made it to distract myself from the fact my elderly father was having heart surgery so... yeah.

>>53725714
Thank you.

>>53725714
plot-bound drawback*

>>53725685
>And if you really want to get dumb and meta, you could make an amnesia drawback where you forget you are the jumper, but flavor it so that everyone (sans Haruhi, because she's in the same boat) knows that you are the jumper and is doing their damndest to make sure you don't remember, for whatever reason.

I like it.

>>53725720
But you can buy Yuki, and everyone else in the main group, and get even more then just taking them as canon companions, with the 500 option. You're paying more but you're getting many times more then the increase in price.

Maybe it'd be best to not have all this messing around in what exact perks people get and just offer them as they are in setting, making a note if you think someone is too powerful, like with the Great Will thing?

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Jumpers, when are you at your happiest?

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>>53725806
>Filename

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>>53725806
When Ricrod's posting here...
He's not here now.

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>>53725461
Thanks anon.
I got a good giggle.

>>53725501
>Definitely needs an intervention for that crazy cult she got herself wrapped up in

You lost your chance the 14th time you locked yourself in a tower and pretended that I was some kind of dragon.

>>53725483
A glass of Remy Martin Louis cognac.

>>53725649
Do you want me to have back issues or something?

>>53725806
When you crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women.

Obligatory

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>>53725806
When I'm getting hugs from those I love.

Seriously. Just /the/ best.

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So, if you create something with Demon Spawn (Hero BBS) and then absorb it with Dark Binding (Hellsing) / Greed (God of High School), would you be increasing your level?

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>>53725865
Demon Spawn causes you to suffer a power loss after using it, right? I think it was like, "Expect to be bedridden for like a year if you make something half your power"? Or somewhere around that? I'm too lazy to check.

Anyway, I think you'd have to wait for your power to come back first on its own, you know, recover your strength naturally. And then you could eat your kid for an extra power boost.

In fact, I'm almost certain that a couple anime villains have done shit like that before. Giving people powers and then ripping them back towards the end of the plot to facilitate their own powerup, that kindof thing.

>>53725720
You're welcome, Misspelled Gauntlet Waddle Dee!

>>53725468
Can you change the name to The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzymiya or just Haruhi jump or something? The current title is just going to cause confusion when people go looking for it in the drive since that's not an official name.

>>53725468
Which background to be a haruhi?

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>>53725735
How about this?

>>53725952
No prob, Blue Catlike Anon.

>>53725971
Sure, though then people might ask why it enfolds the entire series under the umbrella of the first novels title...

>>53725981
None of the above.

Still working on some Drawbacks wordings before putting them in.

>>53725551
Slave option?

Have you ever been the little girl?

How can jumper become a reality warper and/or immune to reality warping. Either one is fine.

>>53725849
>Do you want me to have back issues or something?
Your faith will sustain you. If it doesn't, then I'll lend a hand or two... for the Emperor of course

>>53726026
Many times. I can change my Age and Gender at will. Before acquiring those abilities, any Magical Girl Jump.

>>53726032
Copy my build for God of high school.

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>>53726026

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>>53726026
Yes

>>53726049
No. Go away.

>>53726026
I've been a little boy, but I've never been a little girl.

>>53726032
Heylin magic is a good place to start.

>>53726059
So you don't want to get both from one jump?

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>>53726034
And now I understand how Worm feels

>>53726077
How would you even get those from GoH?

What would happen to the world if Bancho gained all the powers of all his current jumps in real life?

>>53726077
Nobody wants you, period. I thought the posts that described you as the Hitler of Jumpchain made that clear.

>>53726097
If I remember, general consensus amounts to: Warpwyld

>>53726097
I imagine reality would start REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEing

>>53726093
Pandora Is both, but with reality warping over a very small area, wisdom of the sage is control of the fundamental forces in a house size area that slowly expands with practice and training.

>>53726097
We would all die horrible deaths and suffer for all eternity because we were all mean to him. The entire universe would fall apart at the seams because he can't into reality.
And he would be floating alone wondering how the fuck he could have fucked up so badly, and never ever figure it out because he's a fucking retard.

>>53726032
Get a Shaping defense in Exalted.

>>53726010
How much variation is there in parallel universes? Is this one of those settings where there's an infinite number of possibilities, from the one where the only difference is the colour of my t-shirt to the one where everyone is a cat? What's the story?

>>53726131
Eventually would Bancho stop thinking?

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>>53726097

>>53725685
>>53725714

I think that these are some good ideas for drawbacks.

One idea I have for a drawback is that you suffer from rumors similar to those the school has toward Suzumiya, causing you to be largely ostracized by normal people.

On the flipside, you could have a Haruhi-style aversion to banality, meaning that you cannot stand anything normal, from interacting with boring people to having a normal daily routine.

Another might be that Haruhi uses you as her dress-up toy in place of Mikuru.

Also, one could be that representatives of the Data Thought Integration Entity such as Ryoko keep going rogue and trying to kill you.

Yet another could be that you have to prevent your secrets from being discovered by Haruhi, and she is especially determined to uncover the mysteries behind you now.

Then there could be one about constantly getting pulled into competitions and the like, ranging from baseball games to music contests, either as part of the SOS Brigade or as a competitor.

Plus, a drawback that severely stunts your social skills in general.

One more could be that instead of nullifying your powers/items, Haruhi unconsciously alters them to suit her taste for "fun" and "interesting" things. "Boring" things either disappear or change into something she would consider cool. Even your history, including ones before the jump, might be susceptible to Haruhi's larger than normal reality alterations.

Finally, what if there's a high-point drawback where you arrive in a bad-end world in which Haruhi has already realized her powers and snapped, turning the world into a topsy-turvy wonderland always chaotically transforming to her whims for fun and adventure.

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>>53726145
"On the Subject of Sliding (Explanation):

A capacity that permits movement between Adjacent Realities, defined as alternate timelines which have minute to vast differences. Mental Sliding is done by shifting your mind to another world via basically shifting to a different you in a parallel timeline. This isn’t hurting anyone just shifting the ‘position’ of you among the various timelines all of the various timelines are still Jumper. Yeah you could Metal Slide into a dangerous position sometimes if your try to pull an escape in battle.

>Do they die? Get displaced? Or do they get consumed by their...soul eating abomination of an alternate self?

By the nature of Jumpchain this is up to you. Make a story of it all. I’d love to hear about it. However the default idea is that it’s fairly harmless."

It's in Notes.

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>>53725806
This

>>53726010
Looks a lot better, those companion options.

>>53726131
Translator's note: Evangelion be trippin'

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>>53726174

>>53719093
So, any more thoughts on the jump for A Super Mario Thing? I've gotten a little feedback, but before I consider the document complete I'd really like to know if my extra guide sections are sufficient in helping people understand the setting, and if people are okay with my few last minute additions.

>>53726140
Would that stop someone from just willing you out of existence?

>>53726182
For the new Jumper drawback you're working on, maybe include a part where you're subconsciously using parts of your powers like Haruhi and the Brigade has to keep you from finding out about it. Could lead to some interesting shenanigans.

>>53726153
He doesn't, is the problem?

I wanna make a generic.
Give me an idea for a generic, anons.

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>>53726214
Cool beans.

>>53726224
Actually started to watch the let's play for this. Your guide makes sense to me, but I'm watching the let's play now so...

>>53726230
Interesting is a great way to make it happen.

>>53726245
Generic isekai Jump

>>53726182
Havent seen the jump yet just asking is there a way to not be reality warped away by haruhi in it?

>>53726245
Generic Low Fantasy or >>53726279

>>53726245
Generic Hentai jump

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>>53725806
Spooning with waifus.

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>>53726281
Nope. There's an entire world that doesn't have to worry about it and even at her worst she's never done such a thing. So there's no real need for it.

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>>53725806
when do you think?

>>53726245
Generic Waifuing

>>53726273
Great! For the first game, I'd actually recommend the playthrough by PinkKittyRose. She only shows one complete playthrough of each level, which saves you the trouble of watching Demo die over and over while still covering all the key parts of the levels. She also makes a lot of fun and relevant comments, and gives her overall view of each level. For the later games, though, your best is to probably watch raocow's playthroughs.

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>>53726053
>CYOAs in my special CYOA thread

GET OUT

>>53726227
Yes. Shaping is the Exalted term for reality warping, and most defensive Charms for it make you completely immune. The best one for the splats we have is the Lunars' Laughing Into the Teeth of Madness, which makes you immune to Shaping for the entire scene.

>>53726245
Generic Prehistoric Jump. Include a dinosaur background.

>>53726281
Use out-jump perks. Or just manipulate/mind-control her to the point she is not capable of using her powers.

>>53726177
>you could have a Haruhi-style aversion to banality
That sounds like it could lead to huge issues if you have any previous jumps at all since, unlike Haruhi, a bored jumper would be fully aware of their supernatural abilities.

>>53726314
Why do you feel the need to share your disgusting fetishes with the thread, time and time again?

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>>53726292
>Want Nier Automata for 2B waifu
>But at the same time 9S and 2B are too cute together to separate them
>I will probably end up having to companion the two of them

Why does this keeps happening to me.

>>53726350
Well, it's a drawback. They're supposed to cause problems for you.

>>53726010
Two questions that relate to Sliders:

Could Sliders find the more mundane fanfic worlds if they tried? Like, going from canon to the Kyonko version just because they felt like it.

Is there anything special about Haruhi's in other worlds? Do they still have the reality warper stuff going on, or is it only "canon" Haruhi?

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>>53726394
Question the First: I would leave it up to you guys, but that sounds like acceptable within the range of different possibilities.

Question the Second: Haruhi is consonantly, no matter what, the strongest Reality Warper on Earth, though the scale could change depending on world.

>>53726245
Generic Steampunk

>>53726245
Generic Sword Coast.
Generic Underdark.

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>>53726224
>>53719093
Erm, I'll give it a shot? I was hesitant to give critique because I got the impression like Captain SNES, this one's setting canonically based on a lot of references that probably flew over my head.

Spin Jump: This seems rather useful as an attack, but I assume it's very common in the jump's setting. Perhaps it ought to be free during the jump, and you could pay 200-300 (not sure) CP for it to remain after it?

Similar Powers: Is there any reason the standard ABCD veggie powerup couldn't be carried over as a perk?

Castle Wrecker: Does this apply to all castles regardless of more esoteric reinforcements, or just mundane ones?

Heir to the Munchiness/King Charles' Crown/Helmet Protection: I feel complete invincibility is a bit much when IIRC fall based instant game over is still a thing in all the mario games I know of, which makes it seem like a gameplay abstraction for really, really good protection instead

Long Journey: Can the "bosses" resist your selection process at all? Are key opponents actually bound by destiny (as in, the concept of fate), or locked into the battles as a fiated effect? What is your "home territory" defined as, and how large can the territory a boss claims be?

Screen Play: What is the nature of the damage the opponents take when you're offscreen (same question for One Touch)? This seems very meta.

Item Babysitters: Do items reproduce sexually, or asexually? Do they spontaneously spawn item genitals, or pollinate like barnacles or something?

Pimp Yo Ride: What is the guaranteed safe journey thing based on?

>>53725806
Just chilling at the center of the universe with a few good friends. Feeling it turn around me, and knowing I don't have to do anything more to make it better.

>>53726331
>Shaping is the Exalted term for reality warping

...I'm still baffled that Guarding Star Tactics, World-Scarring Solar Glory and Sharp Light of Judgement Stance AREN'T considered Shaping

>>53726461
I don't really see how they would be, they are just really powerful attacks/defenses right? No the enemy is now a duck/resource/non-existent effects to be seen..

>>53726245
Generic College (possibly College Movie) jump. I've gone to highschool too god damn many times.

>>53726461
I think there is a difference between an attack that does infinite damage and one that erases what it hits from existence or turns them into a frog.

Bloodborne question, what happens to you when you ascend to a Great One baby anyway? Does it affect you physically, or mentally?

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Okay here we go guys! How's this one?

>>53726559
You turn into a squid and the doll starts taking care of you like the helpless infant invertebrate you have become.

>>53726461
Thanks for the feedback!

Spin Jump: Yeah, it's very frequently needed in the jump to get through certain areas. I'll make a note that it's free during the jump, and that you can pay to have access to the perk after the jump (and at parts within the jump where it locks your ability).

Similar Powers: What do you mean? Vegetable Hunter is basically meant to address the ABCD veggie power-ups.

Castle Wrecker: I believe so, given how the scenes only took place after you fully completed a world castle. That said, those enhancements might inhibit your ability to reach the end of the castle.

Heir to the Munchiness: Okay, I'll tone down the invincibility; I might make it so that instead it's a guarantee that, even if the attacker hurts you, they will still take some form of damage.

Long Journey: I suppose it would be possible for strong-willed bosses to resist; the bosses in-game weren't that bright, so it never came up. I'm not exactly sure what the size of your home territory would be; in the game, the Charlie home kingdom was basically the interior of a giant volcano.

Screen Play- Well, in the game the gimmick of the battle against King Charles was that wherever he moved, the screen scrolled, so that you'd die like in a scrolling level when you went off screen. Since automatically dying would be too OP, I instead made it more like Super Smash Bros., where you start to accumulate damage whenever you are off screen.

Item Babysitters: That is a mystery, much like how a Wailord can mate with a Skitty. I think they wouldn't have sexual parts, but nevertheless somehow breed when they are together for a while.

Pimp: Actually, the one ride raocow managed to beat the level with isn't pictured with the description; it looks a lot like the Reimu-Mobile and I was running out of room on the line, so I left it out.

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>>53726224
ACTUALLY WAIT A MINUTE-

>Item Babysitter
>"take good care of them, or they might catch a cold and die"

D-does this apply to ice sculptures, fridges, enchanted frosty swords and the like?!

>why, father? Why did you gift me with life, just to watch me die...

>>53726357
>Take 2B and 9S to Transformers
>"Oh no, that red and blue machine's got child humans in his hands! We have to destroy him!"
>"I don't know Nines, he seems friendly..."
>"We can't risk that! Who knows how many of these vehicles are those machines in disguise!"

>Take 2B and 9S to Terminator
>"Hello there, my fellow androids!"
>"9S...you might want to start hacking that thing. Right now"

>Take 2B and 9S to Auralnauts
>With Creepio drawback
>???

You may have lost a waifu, but you gained a recipe for robotic black comedy

>>53726499
>>53726558

See, my beef with W-SGG is that as a melee charm, you could do it with any sword. /This is not how normal swords work/

You could argue Judgement is just slicing REALLY fast, but it explicitly states allies aren't affected by the bladestorm as part of the Charm

And Guarding Star's stunted appearance is both as versatile as Counter-Conceptual Imposition (which IS Shaping), AND more destructive overall

I can't tell if someone just focused on their mechanical applications, or this is supposed to be some subtle statement about Solars defying the very definition of reality

>>53726559
It's not clear at all.

The Hunter was definitely affected physically; he turned into a baby-sised dark grey cuttlefish. At that point you also likely have maximum Insight, so you probably think a lot more like the Great Ones than a baseline human. But specifics are elusive.

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>>53726576
No prob. And-with Vegetable Hunter I was suggesting it work as per how ABCDs (?) power up in canon rather than the distinction drawn, to save confusion and because the current guidelines seem a bit arbitrary.

Long Journey: Fair enough. In that case I'm not sure whether to advise some guidelines or not, since it sounds like in canon it's not very well defined either

Screen Play: I might be overthinking it, I just found it a little hard to conceptualise "suffering harm from being offscreen" as a form of harm? Like, fading for reality?

Item Babysitters: I am incredibly relieved to hear that.

>>53726569
Looks good, not much else to say about it.

>>53726578
Item Babysitter: Yes, though like Arctic animals they might be a little more resistant to the cold.

The whole "catch a cold and die" is based on this old African story I heard. A trickster asks his neighbor to borrow a pot. The next day he returns the pot and a smaller pot that he insists is its baby. Similar pattern of borrowed pots and baby pots continues until the neighbor gets greedy and gives all his pots to the trickster. The next day, the trickster says that all of his pots died; if he thinks that pots can give birth, then surely they must be able to die as well? I thought that this concept would help balance out the perk.

>>53726245
Generic Sci Fi

If you don't make it, I will

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>>53726357
>Not waifuing both 9S & 2B.

I mean 9S looks pretty feminine, its not like he's going to get any older physically.

>>53726634
The reason I brought up the veggies in Similar Powers was that, earlier on, someone asked for a canon example of how this was present in the games, and since this was the basis behind that perk I decided to use it as an example in the jump doc.

Long Journey- Yeah, that's a little tricky. I mostly wanted to emphasize how it's kind of amazing that the Charlies managed to get a sufficient resistance to Demo's journey going, given how they lack the infrastructure and national/racial loyalty that the Koopa Troop has going for it.

Screen Play- Maybe it's something like "you lose hp" or something? What would you recommend?

>>53726578
WSGG pumps Essence into an attack to make it do more damage while also reinforcing your weapon so that it isn't harmed. SLoJS doesn't hurt allies because the Solar is so perfectly skilled that his strikes will never accidentally harm someone he doesn't want to aim at. Every use of GST is some variation on using your weapon or a wave of energy from your weapon to cancel out. You can't use it to summon a small raining cloud to put out a fire blast or a portal that consumes an arrow and spits it out behind you or a mirror copy of the person attacking you who blocks their sword swing with a perfectly symmetrical sword swing.

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>>53726658
Oh... I wanted to make that one at some point...
Could I have Generic Hard Sci-Fi?

>>53726747
Take Sci Fi if you want it, I've still got to finish my current jump anyways

>>53726569
Jump looks good (really good), but the clause in (Not So) Great Will bugs me.

>This potent abilities full breadth of power beyond simple ‘luck’ is something you’re ignorant of, and will stay ignorant of until you gain a Spark.

Is that ignorant as in "constantly enforced selective amnesia because it's attempting to make a meta reference that doesn't really work" or "you can't use it's true potential until you Spark"? Because if it's the latter I don't mind a luck boosting power that does more post-spark, but if it's the former a "perk" that fucks with my mind - let alone for a cheesy attempt at meta - is a complete turn off even if you made it free.

Yeah, I know, maybe I'm overreacting. It still bugs me.

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>>53726357
You want to **** 2B don't you?

A2 Superior

>>53726089
Funny, I went hospitalia in the SoB jump. So your pic is very much related. You're adorable when you blush.

>>53726818
>that doesn't really work
It actually works quite well, as it is exactly how it works in the setting. And honestly, describing ignorance of a power you possess as "fucking with your mind" is quite a hyperbole. I just fluffed it as me subconsciously repressing all knowledge of it because I didn't think myself ready. That way nobody is enforcing amnesia on you but yourself. But I'm sure you could fanwank it another way.

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>>53726699
I see. Fair enough, just seemed a little unintuitive to interpret but it could only be me and I can't think of a better idea either.

Ditto.

Uh...something like "their very lifeforce will begin to deplete, manifesting as a palpable feebleness or simply a certain sense of wrongness depending on the strength of their vitality"? Because the closest I can equate such a translation is D&D's Life Drain; since it's presumably an intangible attack with no puncturing or external force

>>53726721
I understand that logic somewhat. But I still don't like the fact that Shaping seems to draw some kind of distinction away from pumping pure Essence into an energy attack, when by fluff "pump Essence into thing" is the base theory behind pretty much everything.

Hell, you could perfectly imitate Solar Saber/Golden Bow with Principle Invoking Onslaught yet no matter what the latter is always Shaping. Meanwhile, Invincible Crown Halo and Should The Sun Not Rise AREN'T considered Shaping which-okay the former sort of makes sense in the context of least gods, but it doesn't say it fails against things WITHOUT them, and Abyssals are a thing in that setting. While the latter is "Holy is still a thing without the thing that supports Holy as a concept"

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>>53726818
Thanks! As for (Not So) Great Will. Sorry it's not a Meta-ref it's more like a rule of Reality Warpers in Haruhi-Verse, they remain ignorant to their power as a Reality Warper and you in turn remain ignorant of the true power of (Not So) Great Will for reasons, which you can describe in you own way like >>53726884 does.

>>53726825
>A2 superior

You're only saying that because she's a broken shell with abandonment issues, who'd rather suck humanity's long dead cock than let the last sentient lifeforms on Earth have a bright future tho

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>>53726825
A2, 2B, & 9S, we collecting an android harem? Then add Aya from GLTAS, Dragon from Worm, & Arcee from TF Prime.

>>53726957
>Aya from GLTAS

did you watch the whole thing? because you should watch the whole thing and reconsider That

>>53726896
I think the real problem is that they kept throwing the Shaping keyword on things all over Infernals for anything that looked a little wierd, even though no other splats had that happen for their Charms.

>>53726896
That sounds like a good idea for Screen Play; thanks!

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>>53726957
You might be, I just want A2. Shes like the bastard daughter of Kaine and Zero and didn't get enough screen time.

>>53726884
No, it doesn't. It's the inverse of how it works in the setting, and if anything it's a hamfisted lampshading of it.

Setting: Haruhi doesn't know her full potential, and nobody wants to tell her or let her find out because they're all worried the universe will cease to exist.

Jump: Anon knows until buying the perk, at which point that knowledge is erased from Anon's mind and this highly selective amnesia is then fiat enforced so Anon _can't_ find out.

>>53726923
Anon still can't even find out after leaving the Haruhi-verse.

And I'd be happy to fanwank it, e.g. "I know I should be able to do amazing reality warping things with this power, but I just can't figure out how, dammit", but the Notes make it clear that it is enforced I-can't-believe-it's-not-amnesia that even extends to messing with your companions.

>>53726971
Yeah. I've seen the entire series. I also know the Aya-Monitor wasn't harming anyone. She was destroying uninhabited systems. All this was because Razer told her she was an unfeeling machine, when there was clearly a connection between the two.

>>53726131
>We would all die horrible deaths and suffer for all eternity because we were all mean to him.
Nuh-uh. I've always been cool with banchô.

>>53727009
I didn't remember that part. Fair enough. So I guess I should've given him some lessons on the Harkness test and the definition of person, but I was kind of busy being Earth's Green Lanternand having adventures with the Justice league

>>53726998
Eh, it seems like you're the only one who's got a problem with it.

>>53726131
you know I generally don't do infinite torment as punishment for finite Negativity,I'm not Yahweh For goodness sakes.

>>53727032
I admit that's entirely possible.

>>53726998
You know you could just not take the perk if it bugs you that much.

>>53727027
I don't think there was any mention of Superman, Batman, or anyone else in Justice League in GLTAS.

>>53727032
I don't like it either. I agree with anon that it would be better if it stopped you from learning how to warp reality, rather than stopping you from learning that you can warp reality.

>>53727044
You're far worse than Yahweh, yes. And I do mean the Chick Tracks Yahweh.

>>53727079
I'm on the opposite side of the fence. I like the enforced amnesia because the entire point of that perk is being Haruhi. The luck is nice but, at least for me, that's not the point.

>>53727025
Admit it anon, you're only saying such things because you want to be contratian, and Bancho is the ultimate contrarian. If in some nightmare of a bizarro universe Bancho was completely accepted by thread you wouldn't even remember much about him

>>53727077
no but I figured it was still a DC earth,and I extrapolated from there.
>>53727099
Ouch.
>>53727116
there have been a couple people who have been cool with me.

>>53727054
As it's currently written, I'm not going to?

I'm even strongly tempted to take the 0cp alternate canon option, since with my current anti-fate perks I'm more than a little worried that jumping the normal canon will immediately result in the temporal crap hitting the rotating singularity device. My jumper would most likely survive thanks to Narnian Time, but I really don't want "accidentally'd a universe" on my resume.

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>>53727101
>>53727079
>>53727047
>>53727032
Okay I've been working on the wording. How does this look?

>>53727137
I am cool with you bancho, so long as you dont go into morality I actually dont mind you at all.

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>>53727116

Not any of those other anons, But I've never hated bancho because I've been around people who were way worse and most of you guys annoy me the same way always overreacting over every little thing.

>>53727137

Your pretty decent once you avoid getting in any arguments.

>>53727161
I can work with that. Thankyou. Now to figure out whether my jumper will risk breaking the universe for a bit of extra luck. ;p

>>53727116
Bancho is usually tolerable and sometimes even enjoyable to have around.

>>53727161
It looks good. This way you can fanwank it so that you're either ignorant of your powers altogether or you just can't consciously control it or the effects of it until post-Spark.

>>53727268
>enjoyable

Hell no, let's not get crazy here

>>53727268
As much as I'm loath to admit he does occasionally have a zinger but I wouldn't go that far.

Look at all the Bancho-apologists in this thread. Look at them, and laugh.

>>53727330
Are you the same guy who calls Gaunlet an apologist? Because that's the only other time I've seen that term used around here.Not saying you are, just asking.

>>53727288
>>53727317
I said sometimes, as in rarely.

>>53727268
Bancho ranges from absolutely reprehensible to almost (but not quite) unobtrusive. He sometimes has good ideas but it's outweighed by the sheer volume of terrible things that come out of him regularly.

>>53727354
I've never actually talked about Gauntlet. He seems to be a pretty cool guy, though.
Bancho is just somebody that I cannot stand. It's like he repulses me on an almost primal level.

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Hey, when i take "dream demon" from the gravity falls jump i become basically Bill cipher, right?

My problem is: it states i have total control over the mindscape, but nothing indicates i could "enter reality" as cipher did and have his reality warping powers in real life. Would that change if i get the journals too and build the dimensional rift device?
Am i merely bound to do weird shit in dreams?
(i atleast combined it with the dream magic from spyro, so i can atleast manifest dreams; meaning i can just create things in the dreamscape and pull them into reality)

>>53727404
Okay then. I'm serious though I learned what an apologist was back when someone was calling Gaunlet one.

>>53727360
No never. I mean don't you ever get that sickening, dirty feeling the second he gets a chuckle and feel the need to flog yourself?

what is the fastest way to become a planet buster, stellar buster or galaxy buster respectively?

apparently getting kryptonian DNA helps..
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Tiering_System

>>53727161
Looks pretty good. I like the Orange Armband and Sky Canopy Tutor drawbacks, but I think the drawback selection could still be expanded some more. Have you considered any of my suggestions from earlier?

>>53726177

are there any perks/abilities that would help me with multiple personality disorder/a split mind?

i accidently my whole brain

>>53727455
>what is the fastest way to become a planet buster

Rick and Morty

>stellar buster

I am the Fortress+ dimension Lord combo

>galaxy buster respectively

that I have no idea

>>53727460
I feel that if we do too many more drawbacks it'll cheapen the Jump, because most suggestions are 1-200 grade and we have enough of those. And no I'm not sure sending someone into Kami-Haruhi's Magical Realm is a good thing.

Charmed should be out in the next few days. Jumpable but not quite finished.
I am on 94 pages. Please send help...

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>>53727522
Dang it. My picture /and/ a name dropped. Made one freaking comment on /K/!

>>53727512
>Rick and Morty
yes, that and futurama

>I am the Fortress+ dimension Lord combo
what jumps, banchô?

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>>53727541

>>53727541
yes! thanks anon; i've been waiting for that jump..
>94 pages
jesus christ, how?

>>53727553
oh sorry, was this whole thing a while back I thought everybody knew its Master of Magic for I am the Fortress and dimension Lord is from DC occult basically, it makes you the specter without direct empowerment from the presence

>>53727541
>94 pages of shitty - really shitty - urban fantasy
fucking hell.

>>53727576
>>53727609
>94 pages
I don't know. It just keeps growing!
I haven't even fleshed out the Companions section yet!

>>53727556
Hmm. That's some good bribery right there. Working, working...

>>53727522
I know that visiting Kami-Haruhi's Magical Realm isn't exactly a good idea, but it's an interesting and exciting one, you have to admit.

>>53727541
That should be interesting. Any transformation perks/drawbacks? Those were always pretty interesting on the show.

>>53727588
>oh sorry, was this whole thing a while back I thought everybody knew
haven't been here for a while

> it makes you the specter without direct empowerment from the presence
holy fuck! thanks for that

if you are the spectre i think you would classify as galaxy buster; not sure though

>>53727455
Go to Dragon Ball AF, pick up Ridiculous Power and Go Further Beyond as a Saiyan/Kaioshin hybrid. You're now stronger than SSJ4 Goku in your base state and can go Super Saiyan to become 50x stronger. If you achieve SSJ5 yourself then you've become powerful enough to be relevant in Super. You also have the potential to achieve SSJB/R since (as a Kaioshin) you've already got the God Ki to do it.

It's one of the few ways to legitimately become stronger than Beerus without spending like a million years training.

>>53727636
will there be an option where i can become the source of all evil?

>>53727412
That's because you're a dream demon, not what Bill is. Not the same thing. You only have strength in the dream, nothing in reality.

>>53727541
Damn that's nice. I've been waiting for a jump of that since forever. Good luck anon!

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>>53727718
i thought so, would be broken as fuck anyway if that weren't the case. Still it's pretty OP if you can just enter the mindscape whenever, fully regenerate and enter reality again at any time you want. Plus, if you can bring dreams into reality you can have your opponents battle never ending streams of monsters/minions without breaking a sweat

>>53727716
Rick and Morty already has that

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Goodnight, Caped Crusader.

Strike's waifu Cirno belongs in a blender and making shaved ice out of her. Also Strike is a guy and he would make a terrible waifu.

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>>53726825
>>53726659
>>53726956
>Be a dirty Humie
>Go to Nier Automata
>All Androids are all over you as you are the last remaining thing that their programming drives to protect


NieR: Automata would be an interesting second jump. If not for the nigh-reality warping Machine Hivemind

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>“Our dad always saw himself as The Bright Knight and aspired to make a positive impact on his fans' lives."

Post Batman and Adam West stories.

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>>53727901

>>53727455
Take the Orgel of Origins from Ar Tonelico and break it.

Boom, you just turned the entire universe into energy.

At least I think that's how it works.

>>53727412
Bill is not 'a dream demon'. That's more of a tittle he gained. He is an insanely powerful reality warper that lives in a realm akin to the Warp or the Wyld but cannot enter normal real-space if not through breaking reality so hard that its chaotic nature is allowed to merge with the dimension he is invading.

You could pull an impression of him if you somehow managed to translate your dream powers to reality. I'm sure there are some perks in the chain to merge the two.

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>>53727918
You want a tear jerker? Check this out:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=kPBT_AooNPw

>>53727650
>Any transformation perks/drawbacks?
Some but not as many as I could probably have fitted.
I really wasn't sure how to handle them for the most part, so I made perks to make it easier to manage transformations and largely left it at that. I am open to suggestions though, after I deliver the first draft, if you have any ideas.

>>53727716
The person, the title, the possessing spirit or the powers?

>>53727732
Thank you.

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>>53727886
>Also Strike is a guy

I'm a fucking boat you cishet cunt. My pronouns are female. Check your privilege.

[insert additional tumble rage]

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>>53727901
>>53727918
Anon, stop.

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>>53723483
Have the latest.

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>>53725806
Do you really want to know? Do you really want to know?

It's a toss-up between when I'm winning in a fight or when people I hate are suffering or dead.o

Okay, so.

In bleach, due to shenanigans in ghq, I'm ichigo's dad.

I was planing on taking both her and masaki with me, but I just had a thought. What about Karin and Yuzu?

I am now conflicted. Does ichigo still get imoutos? Do they come with? I'd only planned on ichigo and masaki.

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>>53727886
>waifu
That's wrong!
Cirno is the strongest daughteru.

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>>53727976
>Need to take a lot of drawbacks just to have 8 companions, the standard supplements and a spark


I expect these things to be overpowered. Not to actually challenge myself.

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>>53727983

>>53727954
What gender are you anyway because I've been confused. I'd like an actual serious answer, please.

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>>53727983
And you call yourself a good guy.

>>53727953
>>53727774
i want the powers of the source of all evil as depicted in charmed. For example when cole has the title he is incredibly strong

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>>53728049
I've been around long enough to know that giving a serious answer to that question never ends well.

I'm text on a screen anon. For all you know DARPA actually made an AI and installed it into a 'burke and posting here is what I do with my extra bandwidth and processing power. Call me what you want, I don't care.

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>>53728066
Hey, at least I was honest about it. And it's not a Kirei deal where I'm ONLY happy when people are suffering.

It's just that I'm the MOST happiest when someone I hate is suffering.

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>>53728001
Wrong! The strongest daughterus are the Three Mischievous Fairies of Light! Sunny Milk, Luna Child, and Star Sapphire!

What if Bancho Anon left years ago and this is just the shitposter wearing his skin?

>>53728159
"It puts the shitpost in the basket or else it get's the hose again."
I could believe that.

>>53726053
>>53726324
>Character Creator (14)
>Wardrobe (12)
>Cute (9)
>Fountain of Youth (4)
>Catgirl (1)
>5 Friends (0)

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>>53728113
Cirno is the canonical winner of the fairy wars though.

>>53728043
Something amiss with my post, Strike?

>>53728159
I don't think anyone who shitposts on 4chan, let alone someone who dedicates themselves to this one thread based on pretend power fantasies, has enough finesse to pull that off.

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>>53728208
Just further proof that moths, while appearing to be docile poser fairies are actually pure evil

>>53728232
I'm a spirit of vengeance, you fool. Would you call that evil? The people I hate are in general evildoers. I also specifically try to redeem them. If they're redeemed I leave them alone.

Would you call Ghost Rider evil? The Spectre evil? They are more about my brand of justice.

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>>53728293
>Vengeance
>Not Justice

Is anyone here familiar with the Sunless Sea jump? I don't really understand what both of the lagniappes do:
A Live Judgement’s Egg, ready to hatch, or the Dawn Machine Plans will be delivered at the end of your chain. Choose wisely, before making another Great Chain of your own. We all live with our consequences.
There's also this part, which is also in the Fallen London jump:
>You have a feeling that one of these gifts is unfinished, and may complete itself in future…
Does anyone know which gift it refers to and how it would complete itself?

>>53728351
What is vengeance unto evil but another form of justice? A warped form of justice but still justice.

Justice and vengeance are not mutually exclusive.

>>53727886
As long as he has a feminine penis, it'll all work out in the end

>>53727901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyOpnKb9BmU

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>>53728293
>>53728429
>being an edgy Spirit of Vengeance
Revenge is punishing the wicked for self-satisfaction. It has nothing to do with justice.

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>>53728476
>Being this naive

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>>53728493
>being this edgy
Two can play this game my friend.

>>53728493
>Being this edgy

>>53728476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAY4XI7KZd4

https://pastebin.com/N8xvkmpA

Intro/prologue/etc for something I plan to start. Comments/critiques/feedback/harsh words/good recipes all welcome.

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>>53728429
>Another philosophical discussion

Vengeance is "an eye for an eye". One sided and subjective. A weapon meant to hurt.

Justice is "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Mediated by society, ideally impartial. A sheild to protect.

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>>53728507
>>53728508
Heh...I guess I am edgy then. I see no point in arguing with you guys since you're not open to being convinced otherwise, and likewise for me.

>>53725806
When I am enjoying the company of a harlot with a lithe opaque nose.

>>53728526
This is exactly how I see it, actually.

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>>53728507

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>>53728565

>>53728565
>>53728634
>Being this smug

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>>53728643
you ain't seen nothing yet

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>>53728667

>>53728537
I mean, if you can be satisfied with your revenge being the righteous process of fair justice, then they're not incompatible.

What I'm saying is, be Ghost Rider, but also Batman. Bat Rider. Ghost Man?

>>53728714
Bat Ghost.
Ghost Bat.
Rider Man.
Man Rider?

>>53728752
>Man Rider

kinky

>>53728752
>Man Rider
Hey man don't be bringing Iceman into this.

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>>53728565
>>53728634
Obligatory.

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>>53728713

>>53728779
Iceman a shit. Viper best Top Gun

Top Gun 2 soon fellow volleyball players

>>53728752
>Oh shit, it's Man Rider!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkXJ8hKqtOA

Continuing from where we left off.

Jump 87: Black Bullet
Location: Detroit, America
Origin: Drop-In
Perks:
Nah

Items:
Jack Shit

Drawbacks:
Being Here In The First Place

The moment I agreed, the scenery changed as I jumped to another world, once again. Briefly, I panic before closing my eyes and realizing I can still hear Yuki's song in the distant corner of my mind, making me let out a sigh of relief. Good. We were still connected. I could feel I still had all of my abilities, too. Judging from the geography, I've been placed in the middle of…Detroit. Detroit, USA. Really? Well, say what you will about the forces of Law and Chaos, they aren't without a terrible sense of humor.

I vanish from the eyes of ordinary people as I sink into the Mirror Dimension and watch the world from the glass. I quickly realize I am not going to like this world very much. A golden light and a heavenly chorus fills the air, gently singing in the background. Had this been about 70-odd jumps ago, I would have found it soothing, but all it did here was hurt my ears.

"You are familiar with the concept of 'using the power of sin to battle sin', correct?" The winged giant inquired of me. Seems they've done their homework. "This is how the Cursed Children are used. They are infected with the poison that slowly kills this world, and they themselves are just as doomed as other victims. Thus, they live a paradoxical existence of being both mankind's sword and hated as much as the monsters they fight."

I already don't like where this is going.

"This imbalance tempts mankind into even greater sin, relying on the poison's power while hoping it will enable them to survive. They hasten their own destruction with this dependence and hated, falling into worse excesses. In time, their folly will see them completely annihilated by monsters within and without."

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"Behold my works, ye mighty, and despair."

Turns out saying a few days was me being really conservative.
So here, you are, Charmed for your enjoyment.

I'm still not entirely happy with parts of it, some of the Powers for example could use some fleshing out, but I think it's okay to offer up to the thread gods for critique. It is more or less jumpable but you might want to wait until there has been some feedback as it may have to be changed a bit.

Please let me know if you see anything OP or not OP enough, or just plain wrong. This is either my first or second jump depending on how you look at it and i could do with some other opinions.

Oh, and it's now 89 pages. Have fun with that.

>>53728889
This sounds like a chicken-or-egg scenario to me. Though I guess in a situation like this, the cause being impending extinction from the Gastrea Virus or just natural human cruelty doesn't matter. This doesn't sound like a choice, though. Where do you expect me to come in?

"Righting the imbalance. Should you deem it fit, this world will be saved. The cancer that eats at this world must be purged, root and stem. Doing so will place humanity back within the light of order and the chance at salvation."

The total removal of the Gastrea Virus. And what happens to the Cursed Children?

"Their sacrifice is necessary to enable this future. But my Lord is kind and merciful, and will shepherd their souls to Heaven. They will live without fear or pain, in the arms of His divine light."

You'd think, being over a thousand years old by now, this sort of thing wouldn't make me sick to my nonexistent stomach. This already sounded a bit like a loaded choice. After all, couldn't I just cure them…?

"You could." The short girl with golden hair says, addressing me with a patient smile. "The cure exists in this world, within the varanium monoliths that safeguard mankind. By taking them for yourself, you may create a proper vaccine for each and every Cursed Child that still lives. You may give them back their futures, and a chance to live. The price? The lives that they thanklessly defended. The lives that threw them to the wolves. The lives that despised, used, and abused them to their dying breaths."

In short, all of humanity. It didn't matter if they were guilty or innocent, the actions of those who had inflicted this fate would damn all involved. For if the world had descended to such a sorry state in the fact of certain doom, then that meant they were rotten to the core for allowing it to be so. That is the argument presented to me, here.

>>53728898
"What of their souls?" I hadn't missed that little detail the angel had mentioned.

Lucy smiled. "I have no need of them. Hell desires only the strong. Should they be strong, their actions are just. But…for those who relied on the strength of those they despised and scorned, what do you think their chances are, hmm?"

"Enough." The angel spoke, an inkling of impatience in his tone. "You have heard what is necessary to make your choice. Now, it must be made. With this, we ask of you…"

"The few, or the many?" Lucy asked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzjc1Y6Nf7E

I looked between the both of them. I sighed. "I'm over a thousand years old. And you know what they say about age equaling wisdom? That's not really true. I'm more skilled and more powerful than I ever could have imagined myself being, but I still feel like I'm the same idiot I was when I started. I'm not qualified to make judgements. Not even a little."

Lucy stared, their smile slowly becoming a frown. The angel nodded solemnly, as if in agreement.

"You are not without sin." The angel said. Despite this proclamation, there was no malice in his voice. Pity, perhaps, but not malice. "You have claimed yourself the protector of Earth and humanity while willingly casting a blind eye to their sins. Your folly has claimed countless lives, and have excused yourself from the consequences. How many have suffered from your ignorance, even as you possess the ability to ease the pain of victims and punish the sinners?"

Were the forces of Law condemning me for being too soft? That's a first.

"Because I'm not a God." I replied.

"Do you know what you are?" Lucy saw right to interject here, looking at me curiously.

>>53728894
What is the easiest solution to solve everything? Would it be to kill the Charmed Ones, like in Supernatural to kill the Winchesters?

>>53728913
Lucy broke out into laughter. "Such a hypocritical delusion! You have intermingled with the shadow of a great devourer. You are no more human than a star in the sky, nor are you obligated to associate yourself as one of them. Do you merely refuse to enforce your will on others because you fear bearing the responsibility?"

"Of course not," I say, trying to contain my sass and failing miserably. "Because if I dominate a world that can't fight back against me, then I'm not its protector. I'm just a kid with a magnifying glass telling the ants to behave the way I dictate or else they burn. If I really wanted, I could throw the entire planet into the sun, or erase my foes from existence completely so that they never were. No matter how I slice this reincarnation thing, I'm an outsider with an unfair advantage. There is no justice in enforcing my own will."

"And your obligation to protect mankind…?" Lucy asked, staring at me unblinkingly.

"Self-imposed. Because this is my home, or an iteration of it. I'm not arguing for things like the power of the human spirit. You're right…humans can do plenty of terrible things. To each other and to other beings. But if they're up for the chopping block of extinction, they will be the ones to do it to themselves, whether from time or stupidity. Anything premature that takes that agency away or seeks to be the kid with the magnifying glass is my responsibility to handle. Because they may be a bunch of cruel idiots, but they're MY cruel idiots."

"Then you argue you should do nothing, despite this fallen world?" The angel asked, impatience trailing into his voice.

"I didn't say that, either. I'm saying both your solutions are bogus and self-benefitting. Don't think this is the first time I've had a conversation like this. Mr. Angel…no, Metatron, you get a huge bundle of innocent souls that will only know love from your 'Lord' after the suffering they endured beforehand, that will never taste life and all it has to offer."

>>53728927
"And you, girl, if you're who I think you are…you get the benefit of denying them that, and getting me to buy into the idea I should adhere to the strongest of the fittest. Well, let me tell you both what I told two similar entities that tried to tell me what to do: Fuck your utilitarianism, and fuck your 'survival of the fittest'. I am the Sorcerer Supreme, and I wager I will save both the Children and mankind."

Lucy was entertained, a wide smile on her face. The angel, on the other hand, was visibly furious. "You have been offered salvation, and a chance for these Children to never again know suffering. And you have denied my Lord's kindness. You will not receive another chance, Destroyer of Worlds."

"I've gotten pretty far with just a 'devourer' watching over me," I said, grinning. "I think I'll be fine."

The two said little more before vanishing from sight. Then, I clapped my hands together. Affirming myself as the Sorcerer Supreme of this Earth made my body hum with arcane power. Right. I need to be like a scalpel here, not a wrecking ball. I can fix this without declaring myself some kind of sorcerer-king. I just need to give it the right push.

I will destroy the world where such a stupid choice can exist. The Gastrea Virus will know the touch of magic, and with it, I will sweep it and the creatures it creates away from this world, down to the last. The Cursed Children disappear, one by one, often after encountering a strange black cat. Coincidentally, several orphanages open up as the world realizes their enemy and doom has completely disappeared without a trace. Some say the children resemble the disappeared Cursed, yet they looked different, and for some reason, no one could acknowledge the uncanny coincidence. Cairo's 'trade' with the Children quickly collapses in on itself, and all attempts to resume it are met with encounters with strange masked individuals who hear the wishes of those suffering.

>>53728944
I don't know if this is right. I could have easily done more. Unleashed plagues. Make each and every one who profited from this world's sorry state endure the Penance Stare. Maybe even taken over the world myself, passing judgement as a King or a God. But I'm content with the world never knowing my name or what I've done, many of those who observe these events only having rumor or hearsay to go from. Some say it was an act of God. Some say the Cursed Children sacrificed themselves to somehow secure humanity's future. Others wonder if any of it was even real.

But, little by little, the damage is undone. The wounds will heal, in time, and I make sure to pick families that the no-longer-Cursed Children will have good futures with. Where they go from there is really up to them.

For the second time in my entire journey, someone calls me a hero. The smiling faces of those orphans were where that voice came from.

I swear to god this looked shorter on the doc. Apologies for the spam...I think I'll start pastebinning again from here on.

>>53728919
Do you want an apocalypse? Because that's how you get an apocalypse.

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>>53728962

>>53729004
She doesn't have a nosebleed 6/10

>>53728894
>feeling threat from some bitchy "Angel of Destiny"
Unless that's Jump-chan in disguise I don't believe it.

>>53728919
I suppose that would depend on what you mean by 'solve everything'.
The Charmed Ones don't really get into the sort of escalating messes the Winchesters do. Most of the time they are reacting to other people, or things hunting down innocents or wanting to kill them for one reason or another.

If you were to take them out of the scene all together, things would probably just continue as normal although a few people would suffer a lot given that they weren't saved and a lot of powerful Evil beings of various sorts would still be around hurting and killing people, many of them difficult or impossible to deal with without the Power of Three, including the Rowe Coven, a Warlock equivalent of the Charmed Ones and the Triad, a Demon equivalent.

The Source would remain the same, Cole wouldn't be redeemed, Leo would be looking after other charges. Even the plans of the Avatars to make a Utopia might be put off until after the 10 years are over without a superpowerful Cole or Charmed Ones to bolster their power.
A lot of the things in the later season revolves round their kids, so if they weren't around to have them, that would resolve those issues. Similarly the issues revolving around Phenoe's job/love interests, their faking their deaths and being tapped by the FBI for investigations or acting as tutors to Billie.
The matter of Billy and Christy would still be an issue even without them, but their biggest potential threat was killing the Charmed Ones, which would be a non-issue if they weren't around in the first place.

The one thing that would happen anyway that they didn't somehow cause that they saved everyone from is the Titan's release, when they were given Godly power by Leo, thanks in part to his and Piper's time displaced son, Chris. Although to be fair, I may just not be remembering something else that fits that category.

>>53729025
I had to keep the narrative fairly flexible in case it was an early-chain jumper.

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>>53728894
>89 pages
This... this is going to take some time to read.

>>53729119
Sorry, forgot my shiny new trip.

>>53728894
>Automatically having the Angels of Destiny both know about you and on your case
>Being forced to keep the Masquerade
Those seem like drawbacks, not something you should deal with automatically. I mean, I suppose having the Angels know about you would be fine, but having them already be suspicious of you and willing to threaten you to get you to behave? That belongs in a drawback.

>>53729119
Not that anon, but the intro seems to ONLY account for early-chain jumpers. I don't care, personally, but if you're going for flexibility, the way it sounds is that these guys are more powerful then you no matter how early or late in the chain you are.

>>53728894
>all that wanking of the angel of destiny
3/10, you made an attempt.

>>53729119
Is the part in the intro where they say your powers are able to be stolen fiat or not? I know that in the series demons, warlocks and the like can steal powers, but would I be protected with a relevant perk?

>>53729141
>>53729119

I kinda have to agree. These don't seem like things which should be imposed on the Jumper.

>>53728894
>“Don’t Blow up the Moon. We need it.”
Well. Now I have to.

You jinxed it.

Also, I'm going to agree with >>53729141

>>53729119
Just one thing to note about the intro and the other parts. Don't write in first person. By which I mean, change stuff like this:
>Both Elders are clearly interested in having me sign on to their side,
into this:
>Both Elders are clearly interested in having you sign on to their side,

>>53729141
>Those seem like drawbacks, not something you should deal with automatically. I mean, I suppose having the Angels know about you would be fine, but having them already be suspicious of you and willing to threaten you to get you to behave? That belongs in a drawback.

Sounds fairly standard to me. The angels know about you. You're an extra-dimensional being with unknown but likely substantial powers and unknown intentions. Of course they'll be suspicious, and angels are generally assholes with a superiority complex.
This would happen anyway in this jump. It's not a drawback, he's just nice enough to explicitly mention it to you.
Maybe add a "unless you have a power that will prevent divine powers from noticing you", but otherwise i see nothing wrong.

>>53728894
It'll take some time for me to read through this, but it's nice to see such a long jump that isn't just a novel in disguise.

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>>53728894
>Don't Blow Up the Moon

>tfw this is posted directly in time with Decade telling two beings 'don't fookin' tell me what to do, m8'

Challenge accepted. But I'm going to have to agree with the sentiment that the intro is both a bit lengthy and railroad-y. It's best to try and make the Jumper's perspective as neutral as possible and use 'you' instead of 'me' when writing it. There's also a lot of built-in fiat that's probably best designed for drawbacks.

Also, some Jumpers specifically build to be on equal footing with entities like the Angels, or even higher depending on combos and jump orders. So I'd advise removing references to them being 'stronger', if only to keep an unbiased perspective. Just acknowledging them as strong (not 'stronger' or 'weaker') and beings of authority is enough - no need to assume a Jumper's position.

That said, this is your jump, so you can do with my two cents whatcha want. I'll be giving it a full read in a moment.

>>53728894

You'd think the angels would be more cautious towards an extradimensional agent of an omnipotent multiversal entity. They have no one to blame but themselves if anyone takes offence and erases the smug little shits from existance.

>>53728894
The powerset section is confusing. You need to clarify it more on how they work and how to work out what certain species get.

>>53729163
That is a good point. I've overlooked a Power protecting perk or fiat statement. I'll add that to the next version of the jump.
Thanks, Anon. That's exactly the sort of thing I needed other people to point out to me.

Although, considering you have to be killed or voluntarily relinquish your Powers for them to take it, it shouldn't that much of an issue for a Jumper. Although a note about how it would work with 1-ups....

>>53729188
>>53729141
Read the bit after Drawbacks. I think that will reassure you.
Also keeping the masquerade, although they never actually call it that, is in keeping with the setting. Everyone abides by it, with some powerful beings capable of reality warpng and ambiguous concequences for not doing so.
Even then you can do what you like so long as it it's obviously Magic.
The other things the Angels warn against are made optional after the Drawback section.

Hmm, I could make a +0 Drawback that removes your limits to using magic and the masquerade but leaves you open to reprisal? You could do it, you'd just also have to handle the concequences of doing so.

>>53729220
>>53729297
Ah, fair point. I thank that might be a hold over from my earlier versions. I changed that later on. Thanks for point that out to me, Anon.

>>53729297
>equal footing with entities like the Angels
>Ah, problem with that is outside of the comic, which nerfs them badly, I have no idea how powerful they actually are. I had two paths to choose from, nerf them into basically powerful Elders, or go the Old Testament 'Don't Make Me Come Over There', and I figured people would like the later more than the former.

>>53729318
4 Races get Powersets with some capacity for variation and that's it for Powers.
2 Races get PP they can spend to get Power.
Twiceblessed can get two Powersets or twice as much PP before converting CP into PP.

>>53729341
>4 Races get Powersets with some capacity for variation and that's it for Powers.
That's my point, how do you figure it out exactly? For instance, demons:

>Demons can Teleport and possess varying degrees of Immunity, where the most powerful are immune to any Witch Spell or Power or Potion, can still be defeated through cleverness and Power from other sources such as items or friendly fire.
How do you translate that down to purchases? I may be an idiot, but it might be simpler to just have a note at the end giving an example of how it might show up in a build.

>and I figured people would like the later more than the former.
Well, prepare for shitposting and delicate sensibilities.

>>53729341
>that bit about the Angels of Destiny and their power level
If they're shown to be powerful Elders in the comics, then you should go with that, rather then just saying "Oh yeah, they're Old Testament tier powerful even though they're not shown to be that strong". I mean, I get that power level ambiguity is a thing, but if they're shown to be a certain level of strength in a canon source, and that's the only place where their power level is clearly shown, you should go with that, even if it 'nerfs' them.

>>53729341
>Ah, problem with that is outside of the comic, which nerfs them badly, I have no idea how powerful they actually are. I had two paths to choose from, nerf them into basically powerful Elders, or go the Old Testament 'Don't Make Me Come Over There', and I figured people would like the later more than the former.
Why would you think that? People love giving the finger to powerful beings, but they hate being told what to do much more.

I know I'd hate having to rewrite an intro like that, but honestly you probably should. It's skewed far too much towards early jumpers.

>>53726956
It's not like the androids are actually sapient.

So, after the Animorphs jump how important is the 2 hour or stuck limitation is?

If it is still in effect can it be bypassed by other shapeshifting?

>>53729341
I just got to the companion option and I've got to say that they cost way too much, and even the restrictions on who you cannot take don't make any sense.

>>53727161
It stops us from learning reality warping from another source?

>>53729403
Right, I may need to revise that and make the Powersets clearer. I've left some confusing ambiguity there as well.
Right-o, I'll polish that up and make it clearer for the next version.
Thanks Anon for bring it up.
>I may be an idiot
Nope, Anon. You just found my fuck up. Thanks.

>>53729419
Okay, it does seem like i'm going to have to make some changes to the tone of the intro. Perhaps make the Angels less actually threatening and more attempting to be so and being humoured by the jumper, perhaps? That would be easier but not necessary good... well I'll look into it.

>>53729415
The problems with the nerf, (my bad word-choice there as nerf'ing implies more than I was actually meaning) is that the Angel was simply shown being pushed into a Portal. It's enough to show that they are falliable but not enough to get a good sense of just how powerful they actually are.
Still it does seem clear that I'll have to make some revisions, and put them on a level above Elders but not 'Old Testament Angels in disguise'.

>>53728894
>Havent read yet.

nigga did you made a perk out of every spell or what?

>finish reading

You motherfucker

>>53729499
Well, depends on how you rule some stuff. You'd presumably lose the altform you morphed in, since you can't go back to its default state, but there's nothing stopping other means of shapeshifting. Whether it resets once another jump starts is the bit you're gonna have to decide on yourself. Morphing is tech, though. If you bought the Escafil Device, or just stole it somehow, you could reasonably upgrade your morphing ability eventually in order to no longer have the limit.

>>53729287
name one jump that has been a novel in disguise in the last six months

>>53729597
No it explicitly calls out (Not So) Great Will.
> it is all but impossible for you to manipulate the existence of the phenomena caused by your (Not That) Great Will.

>>53729341
As for the Immunity power, was there ever anyone shown who was only immune to one specific thing? I thought it was more of a all-or-nothing deal.

>>53729499
I think it's still in effect.
Not sure if other kinds of shapeshifting would affect it or not.

Morphing is a technologically based ability. The time limit is a limitation of the technology itself.
Hypothetically you could modify the tech to remove the time limit entirely.

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>>53728894
So what is this setting actually about? tl;dr version please, don't have time today to read a short novel.

>>53729287
>finally a long jump that isn't a novel
>>53729689
>don't want to read a short novel

nice

>>53727522
>Kami
Actually, I think that it's better to have a lot of drawbacks than just a few, because it gives people a wider variety of options instead of limiting their choices to just a few that everyone will take if they want extra points.

>>53729637
I think he's trying to shitpost at Valeria or Heavens, they're well known for having long jumps. Just ignore it

>>53729689
Buffy but with 3 witches with no idea what they're doing

Do any of you work on multiple Jumps at once? Or do you finish one project and move on to the next?

>>53729577
Which ones do you have a problem with?
The Charmed Ones have their own option, the Elder and Angel wouldn't want to come with you as they have their own commitments in setting and the Source is the Source.
Come to think of it, i should put a proviso in place in case one of your companions become the Source, or you do.

>>53729609
~laughs hysterically~

>>53729659
Nope, only specific things, like Witch Magic. I may have broadened it out a touch allowing it to apply to mundane harm as well. Do you think it should restrict it to just magical harm?

>>53729689
In a world much like our own, three sisters learn they are witches and that Demons and other nasties exist in the shadows preying on innocents that the sisters are obliged to fight to defend. Those same assorted nasties are also direct threats to the Sisters because they want to kill them and steal their Powers, distinct magical abilites Magical beings possess.
Of course at time the fight against evil has to take a backseat to dates and relationships and Alyssa Milano dressed up like Mata Hari.

It's better than it sounds like for the first 3 seasons, then things get wierd.

>>53728894
Maybe there could be a drawback where you at some point will be turned into a genie, and cannot be freed until someone wishes for your freedom (and is turned into a genie in your place). While you are a genie, you are programmed to be obedient to whoever is your master/mistress and grant them whatever wishes they make.

>>53729835
Lots of people work on multiple jumps at once

>>53729689
Three strong independent witch sisters live in a big house together and occasionally when one of them fucks one of a variety of supernatural beings the other two tell her to stop. They have an ill-defined hypergamy magic power beam that solves all their problems, powered by a matrilineal eldritch tome.

>>53729879
Good good, just reassuring myself.

>>53729879
Same here.

>>53729835
I should probably do the latter. I find myself doing the former.

>>53729856
Not bad. But genies normally have Projection in order to grant wishes.
Do you think it would be best to give someone who takes Genie a discount on getting Projection or just give a limited version of Projection for the duration of the drawback?

>>53729912
Go and fulfill the prophecy

>>53729835
My attention is fucked so I focus most of my efforts on one jump, but if I get a new idea I jot it down. But it's common to work on multiple jumps at a time.

What is the point of the Marked One perk in Stalker? "Your failures usually aren't life threatening unless they are" doesn't seem to do anything at all.

>>53729836
Is the limitation of Projection actually canon? I remember it being just as strong as the normal abilities or even stronger in the series, but it's been a while since I've watched it.

>>53729607
>Okay, it does seem like i'm going to have to make some changes to the tone of the intro. Perhaps make the Angels less actually threatening and more attempting to be so and being humoured by the jumper, perhaps? That would be easier but not necessary good... well I'll look into it.
That sounds a lot better actually. Either the jumper in this perspective has reason to not be afraid or is vastly underestimating the Angels. Win-win.

>>53729883
Ohhh

I think I remember this series. Wasn't there a super-duper immortal demon who was in love with one of them and was kind of a stalker, and tried to kill himself once he was dumped for good?

>>53730152
Kole/Balthazar and he tried to commit a lot of suicide. We see him actively doing it like six times.

Does anyone know of any decent agility perks?

Due to getting bored of writing unsatisfying "drama" centered chains, I've recently started a new efficiency-based chain. I've been surprised to find that agility perks are surprisingly rare, compared to strength and speed perks at least.

>>53730152
>>53730169
Cole was the best character in the show desu. He pretty much carried it for me.

>>53730192
Holy Blood from Genelogy, just stack Dain and Holsety/Foreseti blood and you have 60% faster growth in your speed, AND proficiency with spears and wind magic.

You could probably abuse Clock-Up from one of the Kamen Rider jumps to go MAXIMUM FAST

EX Rank Agility from Servant Supplement

Classic Sonic might have one too

>>53730192

There are quite a lot of them really, I think there's one actually called Agility in Mount and Blade, but they're usually bundled in with acrobatics or freerunning perks. Or perks that make you a ninja.

I think the first one I picked up in my chain was Cat's Grace from CATastrophe which is a pretty cool one.