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What is it about settings with big bloated beauracratic empires

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What is it about settings with big bloated beauracratic empires slowly rotting from within that make them so appealing ? 40k and KOTOR 2 seem to be the only settings I can find that itch that itch
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Because they're a nice change of pace from the disgusting noblebright perfect-worlds-of-perfect-people that plague too much recent media.
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>>53719245
realism
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>>53719357
I can't think of a single major franchise other than early Star Trek which is like that.
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>>53719551
mass effect
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>>53719601
Mass Effect is nobledark.
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>>53719601
>>53719658
Or is it grimbright?
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>>53719245
Poul Anderson's novels and shot stories of the Terran Empire have a similar theme
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>>53719357
Yo can you name some worlds like that other than Star Trek, because I like that shit and I don't see much of it around
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>>53719740
no, fuck off with your spastic speak
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>>53722599
>not being fluent in Spazlish
>when I'm using meme arrows derisively
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Try the Metabarons if you want rotting empires mixed with crazy bullshit and beautiful art.

I'm also I might be mistaken, but don't some eras of Battletech also fit that rotting empire need?
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>>53719245
DUNE
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>>53722800
This. I love 40k but at least 50% of it is lifted straight from Dune.
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>>53719245
Foundation series
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>>53719245
>big bloated beauracratic empires slowly rotting from within
It's something we're familliar with. In the Western world, which is republican/democratic in varying degrees and mostly peaceful, the biggest 'threat' other than politicians and bankers actively seeking to supplant the population and destroy local cultures exists in 'bloat': governments taking on way too many tasks at once without the manpower, resources or expertise to do it.
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