>I'm playing a monk >No, not that kind of monk How

...By playing a Cleric?

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>>53718196
What do you mean, Christian monks don't know kung fu?

>>53718196
>debates in cloisters
>vineyard for bespoke wine
>fortified abbey walls

Emotion and scholarship, like scholarship and labor, were not incompatible. It was an excellent time to be alive.

>>53718196
Either as cleric or bard.

>>53718196

Something like Eco's "The Name of the Rose" or Pargeter's "Cadfael". An itinerant Benedictine monk who's more or less a detective.

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>>53718196
Nuf said.

If you're playing pathfinder there is a Cloistered Cleric archetype.

Otherwise you could just make a high wisdom, high int cleric who doesn't wear armor or have great combat stats. Focus on various knowledges and spellcasting rather than being a holy knight.

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>>53718196
Well technically I'm just a friar.

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>>53718196
MM, if you want to, I'd say build a character as a scholar. Thing is, cleric in DnD are more like missionaries, monks live a secluded existence by definition. Rather than adventuring or spreading the Word of God, a monk as we imagine would be bound to his monastery and serve to minister to the needs of peoplein the area, either through praying for hours upon request on their behalf, charity, or actually ministering mass, or probably acombbination of the three. Naturally, that makes playing an adventuring monk kind of difficult. If you want to, I'd say play either as a monk who grew dissatisfied with monastic life and wanted to do good out in the world, possibly breaking vows to do so. The easier route honestly would probably be just playin a monk thrown into the party who really pines for a return to his life, or just a quiet priest who is less zealous to spread the faith than he is calm and willing to do God's will as it comes before him. Course, I'm not an expert and all of this is speculation, so do your research if you really wanna faithfully play a monk

>>53718196
Assuming we're talking D&D, and you want to avoid the Cleric for whatever reason, you could probably roll Barbarian or Monk with minimal BS'ing

>>53718196

Get ñaid for praying to save the souls of killers and warriors in the party. Remember: Killing is a sin, but you can get reedemption. A monk can do it in you name for some coin.

Play a Priest to level 3, minimum, then decide to either go all in on the deity juice by continuing Priest, becoming a force multiplier by taking Sage or tend to earthly things by taking Keeper. There are plenty of options in Fantasy Craft.
Priest 3 gives me two steps along a Path. This means I can take Destruction II (acid fists, AP 2), Fire II (fire fists, Scorching Ray), Light II (blinding fists, never need a torch), Protection II (+2 Def, Shield Other), Strength II (Brawn spell), or Nightshade II (guaranteed successful poisoning if you win a grapple).

This should be the archetypical cleric, with the armored one be the Paladin.

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>Wake up early in the morning, fresh and chipper
>Pray to God, thanking Him for the life I've been given
>Eat breakfast with monkbros
>Time for "labor", which consists of tending to the garden and feeding the animals
>The goat keeps licking my fingers. Silly goat, fingers aren't for eating!
>After noon prayer, translate some ancient texts
>Keep chuckling while working my way through Catullus: 2steamy4vatican edition
>Illustrate them with snail memes because why not?
>Time for dinner, which is traditionally held in silence
>That never stopped us from exchanging gossip in sign language though
>Newfag monks from Redizzo and Gagonovo keep repeating stale snail memes that went out of fashion three decades ago
>Time for evening prayer
>After which Brother Egidius claims he has invented something that'll make man fly... again
>He jumps off the monestary's rooftop with his contraption strapped to his back and falls flat on his face... again
>At least he didn't break anything this time
>We all 'ave a hearty giggle

Leave the heroism to the unwashed plebs and the arrogant nobles, the cloistered monk realizes that nothing beats comfy NPC life.

Play a booklegger.

>>53718301
>Lost penis in a horrible chapel fire as a young boy
>Spent years tending to the dead and dying, collecting scraps of mithril broken from armor and weapons
>Secretly commission a metal strap on dick, and set out to purge the corruption and sin from nunneries across the land
I call it... The Confessor

To be honest I have always associated Christian monks with fistfighting, kind of like their D&D equivalents. I remember watching a video in class where monks had to fight off vikings with only their bare fists and quarterstaves. I always assumed that they fought without real weapons or armor due to a vow of poverty or something. I didn't realize until later that monk=Jackie Chan.

>>53718411
Only good part of that movie.

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>>53718196
>How would you play a christian monk?

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Thanks to a Greek mistranslation you always have the option of being a werewolf.

https://imgur.com/gallery/WHBtZDC

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>>53718196
>How would you play a christian monk?

>>53718196
If you wanted to focus on scholarly you could do a pious Wizard.

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>>53718232
Who needs kung fu when you have bayonets?

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>>53718196
Take nobility 1.
Proceed to murder the fuck out of my political enemies then go back to the convent.

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>>53719872

>>53719856
Clearly not a monk.

>>53720094
Right, he's an inquisitor.

>>53719134
>tfw born too late for snail memes

>>53718196
Do you like underaged boys? This is important.

Take a cue from St. Boniface or Augustine of Canterbury.

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>>53719946

As a joke-telling bard.

>>53719378
>when you accidentally invent modern france

>>53718196
Use lots of skill points in knowledges. Read a lot. Have good charisma or something.

You'd be more of a navigator / knowledge based class, not so much about combat. But you would know lots of things and be able to get the party from A to B with no problem - know a bunch of languages and be able to solve problems, maybe find traps. And know a dick ton about religions.

You could probably even work fighting in if you tried hard enough - some kind of swordsman or archer like friar tuck

>>53720150
His title is paladin.

>>53722720
You'd be a bard with Sing as your perform skill.

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>>53718196
If he's in a D&D style adventuring party?
Probably some kind of alchemist or wizard. All that time time translating ancient texts probably turns up all kinds of crazy lore in a fantasy world. Accounts of lost rights, apocryphal revaluations and mystic geometries, diagrams of ancient machines and treatises on forgotten crafts. So he has a smattering of mystic knowledge, he's probably so immersed in it he doesn't see it as anything heretical but just an enlightened view of gods creation. He might be over eager to share his eldritch discoveries and heartbroken to learn that he's a heretic.
>Giant bag of scrolls and books
>Spell-book is a bible filled with notes, corrections and doddles of knights fighting snails. He has a generalised set of spells.
>Knows lots of languages and knowledge skills: history, religion, some arcana. Skilled in alchemy or UMD and might have stuff like artisan(book illumination, gardening, brewing or cheese-making) or appraise
>Might have a concealed bandoleer of home-made concoctions (alchemists fire, acid, ect..) contained in small vials with holy verses inscribed on them

If we're going "The Fat Friar" route then rogue,thief or bard all the way. A jolly charlatan conning people out of pies and beer and generally having a great time. He's not technically a heretic, he's just kind of a bastard. Hard to stay mad at him though...
>Thickly layered robes serve as light armour, carries a shillelagh owns donkey and maybe a cart too
>His bible is actually a book of bawdy poetry, the misplaced his holy book a while ago and prefers to improvise anyway
>Skilled in bluffing, diplomacy, seduction, slight of hand, lovemaking, streetwise, drinking, handle-animal performance(tent-sermons/story-telling/opera) and maybe even religion if he has time

>>53720094
He's a paladin of the Order of the Iscariot, a militant order of the Vatican, so he's either a priest or a monk. Considering that he does not preform duties relating to worship, I'd say he's somewhere closer to Monk than Priest.

>>53722953
He's been called "father" several times. Are monks called father? I really don't know

>>53723108
Father is reserved for an ordained priest. But we don't actually have militant orders anymore, or at lest that's the line I'm supposed to say, so idk.

>>53718196
best thread op

clerics/monks were involved heavily in botanicals and medicine as well as history and even some political roles in places where money and the military didnt do all the talking

>>53722854
No, I would be a learned monk immersed in old tomes and religious texts - who also learned a ton from those old books.

Not all monks sing, but all monks usually have religious studies.

>>53723108
They can be.

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>>53718196
Angry.
Angry about snails.

>>53723709
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE(th)

Also, fuck snails, snails pleb tier.

>>53718196
As puglists who will make sure you follow the philosophy ''Ora et labora''.

>>53719134
You left out the booze making.

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Have a murder mystery set in a monastery for inspiration. I'd also suggest A Canticle for Leibowitz.

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Knights Hospitaller.
Or just outright Templar.
I can find right picture, but imagine normal monks with chain-mail under their huge robes/cloaks.
Then carrying blunt weapons shaped like the symbol of their religion.

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>>53724354
>blunt
>when cruciform swords not only exist, but are also by coincidence the optimal shape for a sword

You'd be the educated and literate party member. You know more about geography and foreign cultures than most people. You know latin, which means you can communicate with other people of the church from distant lands.

You're also rather socially awkward.

>>53724272
>A Canticle for Leibowitz.
Good novel anon. Anathem should also provide some inspiration.

>>53719517
This is the best way. Throw in some Umberto Eco too.

>>53718196
Get thee to a nunnery!

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There are rules for monks and laypriests in WFRP. Basically clergy with no ability to use a Divine Lore; essentially walking Fellowship and Common/Academic Knowledge checks.

>>53724354
>Then carrying blunt weapons shaped like the symbol of their religion.
I'm guessing you've bought into the 'priests are forbidden to shed blood myth/meme'. It's complete bullshit, the swords they used were wickedly sharp.

>>53719517
A brilliant series with an excellent TV adaptation.

That scene where he stares down the new Abbot was beautifully done.

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>>53724354
They would be as well armed as any military oriented guy really, the one with the white cuirass with a red sword is one of varied Spanish military orders of Monk/knights, if it wasn't for the symbol it would be the same than any other knight.

>>53724604
I fucking love sallets

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>>53724618
I'm more of a burgonet guy, but sallets are awesome.

>>53719517
This is unironically the best way to do a Monk; intelligent, clever, and with an extensive military background.

I'm dumb and lazy, I would just take a normal monk, refluff the kung fu to be boxing and mystic kung-fu is the power of the lord

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>>53719378
>ywn be a cardinal in plate armor

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>>53718196

>>53719375

What movie

>>53726773
Looks like that shitty Vanhelsing film.

>>53718196

Back when I was a kid I literally thought that RPG monks were meant to be Christian monks and wondered why the fuck do all of them have some weird punching and sneaking skills. I had never heard of Shaolin monks.

Anyway, a monk like that would be probably just a casting-specced healer or a mystic theurge or something.

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>>53718196
As a robot.

Remember, the earliest surviving treatise was a sword and buckler one potentially written by and for monks. Some of the example fighters have tonsured hair.

Sword and buckler was a common martial art back then, especially among university students and light infantry.

>>53718232
>Plebs dont know about Pope-fu, the greatest martial art in the world that only a pope or former Pope knows
>Its not white steam when they decide the New Pope... Its his faith/ki burning strong

>>53718232
Priest 3D was a dope movie, fuck the critics

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>>53726803
Pic related.

>>53727030
Thats funny and could by aplied to todays att too

>>53724534
It's not a meme. There were actual strictures about it; whether they were followed all the time was another matter entirely.

>>53718196
>known for brewing beer and wine
>educated in a time when no one else was, was expected to preserve forgotten lore of the old Empire
>Prayers took the form of musical, harmonically complex chants
>Frequent scandals to the point of inventing a new mythological being to explain why the nuns were getting pregnant with kids that look just like one of the monks

Bard.

>>53718196
>Be an Orthodox Monk
>Learn Pankration
>???
>Profit

>>53727030

Actually lolling out loud here

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>>53724604
Order of Santiago, which exist(ed) for 2 reasons 1. Killing moors 2. protecting people doing the path to santiago de compostela.

IIRC current grand master is Felipe after Juan Carlos resigned.

>>53727345
This should be each Oath for the 5e Paladin. Templar for default, Hospitaller for heal, Teutonic for combat... There are so many really nice Orders. Clerics should be priests, monks, Jesuits and so on, maybe Inquisitors and Witch Hunters for armor.

>>53718301
THICC

>>53727655
>Teutonic
>Combat
You mean betrayal/Edgelord and Santiago for combat right-o anon?

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>>53718196
As a dwarf dedicated to building communal infrastructure wherenever he goes. Giving self-made blessed nails, designing wooden aqueducts for villages, repairing grape grinders...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cistercians

>>53724354
>>53724396
>>53724534
>>53727066

Smiting weapons were a choice for Christian priests on the battlefield who thought weapons that drew blood were too cruel for the pious.

>Dagger is sinful
>Mace that can cave in someone's skull through their helm is perfectly fine

William the Bastard's half-brother Odo was a priest who was present at the battle of Hastings. He is depicted in the Bayeux tapestry as a club-wielding It looks more like a random tree branch desu knight in full armour.

Of course the Knight Orders were "Monks of War" so this kind of choice would have been ludicrous for them.

Do clerics use wisdom as their spell casting modifier?
If so a cleric/monk multiclass could be fun and viable. Is there a monk archetype focused around supporting others?

>>53728791
>suggesting that someone take levels that don't boost spellcasting
>in favor of monk

nigga u dum

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>>53726803

>>53724503
>Get thee to a nunnery!
I'm already there!
>>53718301

>>53727687
>Teutonic
>Betrayal
Enlighten me anon. Didn't they almost conquer Poland and just got btfo on the battlefield?
My knowledge of history stems exclusively from AoE2 custom maps.

>>53725782
The original Red Mage

>>53728943
Teutons are know to kill christians very fucking willy-nilly.

Santiago and most spanish orders (as pretty much all spanish things) is criminally underratted and is the ultimate oath of paladins (as said, they only existed to protect people doing a religions travel to santiago and kill muslims oppressing their people and land).

>>53724503
>>53728901
You may kiss nun once, you may kiss nun twice, but you must not get into the habit.

>>53728943
The Teutonic Order is a textbook example of Lawful Evil and how Christian orders can go sour, they spent more time killing Catholic Poles than Pagan Lithuanians, who weren't even aggressive and slowly become friends with their Christian neighbors.

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>>53719378

>>53723709
>tfw this was probably a meme

>>53728765
the whole "can't draw blood" thing is an exaggeration and sometimes an outright fabrication invented way down the line

the real reason some of them preferred maces was because they were a symbol of authority around that time

>>53724180

dont forgot the stuff they got up to with nuns

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>>53729039
>>53729332
>>53728901

>>53726970
And Chaucer wrote about armed monks. Disparagingly, to be sure, but they existed (before certain 13th-15th century reforms made everybody celibate and pacifist).

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>>53718196
By kicking ass

>>53729563
new idea

>two monk-bard multiclass characters
>eurpoean-style monks
>they wear all black
>they have magical artifact eyeglasses or monocles with black lenses that they can see through
>rest of the party are bards

"What is your business in this town?"

"We're on a mission from Gahd."

GM, be sure to recreate this scene with horses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMagP52BWG8

>>53729652
I endorse this

>>53718196
Make plants fuck each other.

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>>53730243
Then what are the druids going to do?

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>>53718196

If your doing D&D I'd try going for a high wisdom Bard. they have the lore angle covered and praise and worship would be kick ass on a Lute.

>>53731401
Fuck the plants himself.

>>53725782
Is this the only image of him in armor, because it's the only one I've seen and need more

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Put all your points in wisdom, live on a hard to access island, and become the mystic that other heroes seek out for knowledge to guide them on their journey.

>>53729248
I don't know if this is true, but I know the not drawing blood thing is bullshit. Smack someone with a baseball bat and see how much blood you get. Hint: It is an amount greater than 0 [insert unit here].

>>53718232
>faster than Olympic runners
>can jump several stories down and immediately bust into a sprint
>black keys are broken as fuck
>bulletproof clothing that doesn't restrict movement
>one-inch punch Christfu
Fucking Christians get all the cool toys, and THEN they scream heretic when you paint them in a negative light. Fuck them.

I'm making one for an upcoming campaign.
He's gonna be a xboxhueg dude built like Andre the giant, but he's going to be a dedicated healer with a code of nonviolence.
Gonna be fun.

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>>53733276
>Not even top 10 most broken fantasy christians
get on my level buddy. Bet you're not even making moves to over take the whole church or are a light elemental.

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Stat him.

>>53718196
3.x had the Cloistered Cleric that serms to work.