How common is it for the average person to own a spaceship in

>>53709693
The few ships belong to some of the richest states, even fewer belong to corporations.

It's relatively easy to get hold of the material (asteroids are mined extensively and materials science is advanced) for a spaceship and the actual physical assembly is not prohibitively extensive. HOWEVER in my campaign setting FTL travel is done through a warp rip-off and the only people who can navigate it are virgin orphan girls of caucasian lineage. They have to be hooked up to a special terminal (which is very expensive) which causes a total sensory override leaving them blind, mute, deaf, etc. and they'll most likely die if ever detached from it.

Govts usually raise a certain number of these girls themselves and speed/accuracy/safety of not-Warp travel correlates with their education (high level understand of mathematics and astrophysics) and emotional state (sadness/trauma are less likely to draw not-Warp predators) so they go through academies of varying levels of cruelty designed to produce a high quality output. Neither of these are essential to their use though so if you're trying to build a space ship on the cheap there are plenty of slavers and human farmers who sell girls you can use, without the training.

>>53709884
>(You)

>>53709693
Depends on the size. They're pretty expensive, but if you get a few guys to go in for it together they can afford a reasonably priced certified preowned spaceship. If you're talking about just spaceplanes that have no interstellar capabilities, it's only about as expensive as a year of rent in a decent apartment (assuming used). Not super useful for your average guy, but it'll get you anywhere in the planetary sphere in about 4 hours.

Did a campaign where a bunch of broke fucks got an old shuttle, paid to get it taken to the local asteroid belt, and had adventures and shit trying to get the money to buy a proper ship and get the hell out of the system. Good times.

>>53709884
40k meets ERP.

>>53709693
Small ships capable of doing short FTL jumps are cheap enough that smugglers and pirates flying such ships (rarely new ones, though; usually they use old decomissioned ships formerly owned by some corporation) are commonplace in fringe colonies. However, large ships that can travel long distances in FTL drive withou having to stop and rechage for several days are expensive enough that they're mostly owned by corporations and very few are found in hands of individual people (although there are many companies consisting of a relatively small group of investors pooling in resources to buy and operate one trading ship).

In my setting, Jumpers (orbital non-ftl craft) are about as common as boats, and ships with FTL-drives are about as common as private planes, with armed ones being even less common, within lawful space

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>>53709884

Small ships capabale of travelling in system are fairly common but tend to be owned by groups or companies and are more like busses that help move even smaller vessels. Larger ones that can travel outside of the solar system are the same.

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>>53710727
It is non-sexual. The girls/women plugged into spacecraft must be virgins.

>>53710788
the mere fact you must specify that means it is sexual

>>53710788
That's hot though.

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>>53709884
>warp rip off
>sadness and suffering drives the NOT!Daemons away
this confuses me more than anything.

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>>53709693

Any respectable spaceship, with a reasonably powerful engine, is a weapon of mass destruction.

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Pretty much everyone can, if they really wanted too, seeing as becoming an alpha clone is cheap as fuck these days.

Private property has been abolished.

In WESTPACT countries, nearly all spacecraft are operated by the military, and the handful which are not are operated by civilian government agencies. Until recently, EASTPACT was much the same, and in most countries, still is, but the recently elected syndicalist governments in some of the Latin European countries have allowed worker owned businesses to begin construction of a few ships for their own use.

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>>53711742
Wait, really? How much?

No, anon. You are the spaceship.

>>53710788
Gee I wonder where they must be "plugged in" for the ship to know if they are virgins or not

Huh huh

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>>53709693
The average person is a spaceship.

>>53712207
but wait anon, if they get "plugged" does that mean they're still virgins? does the ship take their virginity anon?

>>53711742
I do really enjoy the bits in the chronicles when capsuleers interact with normal people downwell - a couple of ISK being like a month's wage in local currencies.

Pod pilots just have no sense of normal people scale, they're terrifying immortal war machines that spend more on their ammo in a day than entire towns will see in their lifetime.

>>53711633
Killing the boners of demons with negative feels.

>>53711633
They swarm in on joy and more positive emotions.

>>53712207
The girls get a bunch of cybernetic ports put in but mostly the brain, face, spine and hands. Not in the vag.

>>53709693
Pretty rare desu.
It's medieval fantasy, so...

>>53709884
Do non-Caucasians not have souls in your setting?

>>53712620
I'm not too into the metaphysics of it but there's no spiritual difference between Caucasians and non-Caucasians. The reason they have to be of Caucasian ancestry is because part of the process involves inducing a kind of haemochromatosis in the candidate and the treatment used for that has a far greater uptake in Caucasian girls than ones of other races.

>>53712593
I mean shit nigger, I'm sure it's a fine and dandy setting but your FTL travel comes off more like some form of ryona fetishism, especially since you specify it MUST be a specific type of girl.

>>53712708
You can come up with reasonable in-universe explanations for pretty much any random thing you like, but there is no escaping the fact that you clearly decided that your FTL requires deeply traumatised virgin white girls to function and then you came up with a justification for that, and the in-universe justification for this has no bearing on why you decided it that was the result you wanted.

>>53712713
Well, the devils in the not-Warp are really horrible and they zoom in on a particular kind of person. The mostly fascist police states in space aren't really meant to be all that nice either.

One of my players is playing a woman who escaped from these academies and who now works as an blackmarket doctor/geneticist. Her whole motivation as a character is trying to find a way to reverse the process: she's trying to heal a navigator girl she rescued and has hooked up to a custom cybernetic rig that keeps her alive.

>>53712829
Like I said, fine and dandy. But the description certainly comes off like something I'd find in a fucked up japanese doujin.

I imagine the least cruel of all the schools have grade schoolers learning advanced physics while the teachers grill them intensely about the work and silently encourage the other girl to bully each other. Just so they can end up as promising human beings, but sucked of any emotion besides sadness and frustration and hooked up to spaceships to be turned into vegetables.

>>53712173
Eve has been F2P since last November IIRC. Problem is alpha clones are racially locked to their ships, and you can't fly anything larger than a cruiser. T2's are also completely locked as well.

>>53709884
So what do you call it?

>>53709884
So on a prison world are all of the women systematically raped in order to prevent escape from your magical realm?

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>>53709693
I would say it's about the same as buying a boat. Kayaks are hover bikes, fishing boats are hovercars, speed boats are fighters and up to battleships being, well battleships. Only groups and the well off can actually buy a space faring vessel, and even then only the smaller ones. Pic related is what megacorps can buy.

>>53709693
In my setting, ships are exceedingly rare. Usually owned by the nation governments (who live in giant sealed off colonies orbiting earth) or exceptionally rich megacorp douchebags on the earth's surface who usually use them to transport mercenaries into space to raid supplies from the many asteroids that orbit the earth (which is the main source of metals for the space governments so battles naturally occur). But instead of full fledged ships, small fighters/bombers are common and space capable mechs are a dime a dozen. though these are usually powered by more conventional engines instead of a nuclear reactor like a space ship.

>>53712826
You must think in a pretty fascinating way about just about anything you read, watch, play, etc

>>53712943
I'm worried to ask if they are actually old enough to be considered young women, or if it's a bunch of soon-to-be vegetable 14 year olds that are cultivated and sold like animals.

>>53712916
Oh!
I thought he meant the paying/omega clone, I assumed PLEX prices had gone down massively. Which seemed weird.

>>53713115
Nah, I usually don't bother analysing the media I consume in detail because I don't find doing so very entertaining. Sometimes though you can't help but come across a concept that that makes you stop and wonder what the fuck the creator was thinking.

>>53712916
Well, Meta 4 items are still usable which are almost, but not quite, as good as T2. They just cost a lot more. Alpha's can fly the Gnosis, which is a (relatively) cheap Battlecruiser.

>>53709693
>An armed carrier belonging to """pacifist""" japs.

Right now, even in Africa, pretty much any person can own more horsepower, eat better food and have access to better medical technology than a 19th century nobleman, Anon.

It's really not too wierd to think that folks'd have access to spaceships in the future.

>>53713483
Maybe not in real life, but we're talking various people's specific settings. So who knows what crazy circumstances changes everything so that spaceships are exceedingly rare or exceptionally common.

>>53709693
Depends. After you get through all the training, service aboard a registered ship for a minimum of three years, or if you have the cash to skip all of that, all it comes down to is if you have the mentioned cash to own and maintain one along with a crew.

It's boring but I didn't feel like over-complicating it.

>>53709693
>Weight
that varies with gravity.
Why not use Mass?

>>53714523
Because the greater the mass, the greater the generated gravity, ergo weight.

>>53709693
>Would it be the equivalent of owning a plane or boat? An eighteen wheeler?

more like owning an oil tanker desu

>>53709693
shits fucking expensive nigga, and there's not a whole lot to do with a ship thats anything in any way near what an average person could purchase

if you needed to travel to the outer colonies a lot and didn't want to ride on normal passenger lines for some reason i guess it could be useful, but you are gonna have to be rich as fuck to do that

if you want to go do industrial shit like asteroid mining, you're gonna need a lot more than just a personal ship and sure as fuck aren't going interstellar in it with no ftl travel

>>53709693
Somewhat common, depending on the size of ship
Lots of people are owner/operators of small freighters, but larger and/or armed ships are rare outside of business and governments

>>53711645
This, sci-fi that pays even the slightest of attention to basic physics is best sci-fi. I'm not even talking about hard sci-fi here, just that it actually uses the interesting setting that is space instead of doing the standard 'space is just an ocean' snoozefest shit.

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>>53712829
Why Caucasian? Is this a fetish thing or am I reading to much into it because of how fucked up shit gets on this website?

>>53717729
It's already clear it's some fucked up fetish thing. But he did describe it here >>53712708

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>>53717749
......so an obscure medical condition found more often in folks of European ancestry is the source of your ftl travel? Part of me wants to bitch, but compared to some of the shit I've seen on here, it ain't that ridiculous. Make of that what you will.

>>53717837
I can get behind ridiculous explanations for things if it's going for rule of cool to be honest. But when you have stupid explanations for painfully obvious fetish stuff it's just ruined for me.

>>53709693
Owning a car, a very nice car, that goes fast, and can into space

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>>53717869
This is most likely just a vehicle for fucked up sexual race play bullshit. Fuck the pure white virgin and all that. To each their own I guess. But I'm with you on the rule of cool thing. Just having in depth, well thought out background info on how shit works is fascinating to me.

>>53717942
Haha, I wish it was just basic raceplay, but I'd say this magical realm is more about the suffering of the girl. Hence the "government raises the girls in shitty conditions while drilling high quality information into their brain just to make them vegetables plugged into space ships" shit.

>>53713184
>plex ever going down

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>>53717967
So them being white is irrelevant outside of the whole medical condition thing? Very well. Part of me doesn't believe that, but maybe I'm just jaded as hell.

>>53718030
It's probably a small part of it, like having a preference for a specific body type. But the main attraction is the ryona shit going on.

>>53717942
>>53717967
>race play
Is this real? Do people really take "ooga booga where the white wimmins at" seriously enough to fetishize it?

>>53717967
>>53718030
The medical condition isn't natural, it's induced. That's why they use Caucasians, because they can induce it successfully. It's part of linking them to the ship as a single entity so they can skirt the not-Warp with it.

The whole thing is meant to be horrible and intentionally plays on historical sexual vulnerabilities and fears. Please stop reading fetish stuff into it like it's the whole point of my setting.

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>>53709693
>How common is it for the average person to own a spaceship in your setting?
Not very. There are a lot of people out there and most of them are too busy doing other things like being space accountants to learn how to fly a spaceship.
However, if you're in the right place, a spaceship is about as affordable as a modern boat.
Of course, there's still a world of difference between buying something the size of a Raptor from Battlestar Galactica that you might use to visit your family twice a year and a flying home comparable to the Millennium Falcon.

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>>53718059
So it's the torture and immense mental trauma then. Oh joy. Sometimes I forget that there are some folk into that kind of shit. Then I get back on here and have my faith in humanity re-shattered.

>>53709693
Citizens cannot own personal property in the Confederacy without the approaval of the War-Effort board.

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>>53718090
Folks be into some fucked up shit yo. Spend enough time in the abyssal pit that is the Internet and you will see things.

>>53718105
It's really hard not to think that when you specifically specify "Virgin orphaned girls who are regularly abused and tortured for the sake of FTL". If you make them young it only gets worse. Like if I told you I have a race of immortal beings that live off of sex in my setting it'd be hard not to accuse me of magical realm that's because it may partially be on a subconscious level but that's beside the point

>>53717989
>seemed weird

>>53709693
About as common as it is for the average person to own a submarine.

>>53718201
>WHITE virgin orphaned girls
Fixed that for ya.

>>53718105
Dude, what the fuck.

>>53718304
Oops, forgot that one. But either way my point is, if you add something that can have sexual implications (such as vulnerable young women) your best bet if you don't want to be accused of magical realm is to make it as general as possible.

If you say "This is a society that's ruled by a matriarch" for example, it's going to come off as just an odd place to differentiate itself. But if you specify "This is a matriarchal society where the men are slaves to women and are commonly gagged to avoid speaking out of line and feminine figured men are highly prized by these women and..." you start coming of as implementing something for the sake of "It's hot.".

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>>53718379
Yeah. The whole medical condition thing ain't bad, but picking one that is so specific about who has it and the added torture elements make easy as fuck fetish fodder. But he said its referencing historic white fears of non white men messing with white women. So maybe it ain't as sexual as we are making out.
But I doubt it.

>>53718516
I doubt it as much as you do, because it's definitely not "non white men fucking my white girls" considering he never specified any other race but the girls'. The connection he might be making is "Women fear getting overwhelmed and violated by men who are stronger" or something, but I'm not seeing any of that in the work because it's all about psychological torture and then vegetablization.

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>>53718572
If that's the case then it's just 40k style grimderp chicanery. Which ain't much better, but at least it isn't so race baity.

>>53718705
Pretty much, the only thing I'm seeing is "What if I took 40k navigators but made them all young girls."

>>53709693
A Burroughs-Long-Libby Continua Device costs a few thousand dollars.
A 2-hour spaceproof enclosure for up to 6 humans costs another few thousand.
Good luck getting Aunt Sharpie to sell you a Continua Device though.

>>53718090
There are people into shit filled diaper play, roleplaying as a plantation owner and his slave girls is one of the most tame things you'll run into.

>>53718379
>if you add something that can have sexual implications (such as vulnerable young women) your best bet if you don't want to be accused of magical realm is to make it as general as possible.

Everything can have sexual implications.

Hell, everything does.

>>53720092
Well that is true, but some carry a lot more than others. Young nubile women bound and gagged for example carry a lot more sexual implication than a tree that looks like it has a dick.

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I'm working it to your crippled traumatized white navigator girls anon and there's nothing you can do to stop me

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>>53720478
Don't be like me and forget the virgin part as well. really kills the whole experience.

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>>53710788
Of COURSE! It's so obvious!

Varying degrees of difficulty, depending on how big you want it and how far you want it to be able to go. A smallish planet hopper is generally going to be something most middle/upper middle class folks could afford if they really wanted to. Most of the difficulty is in getting licensed and certified.
A corvette capable of running around most systems is generally going to be a rich mans toy, or maybe jointly owned by many people. Anything larger than that is both sort of rare and generally the domain of political, social, or corporate entities. Usually. A hypercorp CEO could probably afford to privately own something really big, but even in that case it's going to be a pretty chunk of change.

In most cases anything larger and fancier than a shuttle is going to be mortgaged and jointly owned by investors, crew, officers, and other interested parties and paid off over several decades


All of the above are generally slower than light. Ship specific FTL in setting is uncommon, at least in human hands. There's a galactic embargo /quarantine on human controlled systems, as well as a travel ban, and traditional warp engines make really obvious energy signatures. Generally humans travel via wornhole gate type dealies that the ruling aliens don't know work and that have allowed humans to sneak around and colonize shit.

>>53721350
The other kinds of FTL are rarer and pretty much dispensed on a case by case basis. One is basically mass astral projection, but that requires dangerously powerful psis. The next uses highly unstable, juryrigged manmade wormhole gates, but those have to travel stl to get to where they'd lead. The last one is the most flexible and versatile, but it requires very specific people. To make a navigatior you need someone with a certain mutant/ancient alien gene (which is limited to a handful of families) exposed to a shit ton of LSD and nootropic drugs in utero, then trained from a young age while also being hopped up on a shit ton of drugs and neuromods that allow them to deal with the input of their special genes, which lets them see in 6d. The ftl system lets them basically move outside the universe as we understand it, and their training allows them to process what they're doing and not dissolve the whole ship into quantum foam or send it into a nightmare half reality. It also makes them absolutely batshit, or at least completely unable to deal with normal people. Most of them don't live til 30, though those that do basically start metamorphosizing into transdimensional superbeings. Or explode

>>53709693
It's extraordinarily rare for someone to own a proper interplanetary spaceship as an individual. There are a few large companies that provide shipping, and quite a few countries have a space-fleet, even if they don't have colonies.

Spacefaring in the 2100's is similar economically and sociologically to seafaring in the 1600's: the tech is there, but the expense of making a interplanetary vessel is so immense that only nations and groups of wealthy merchants can really afford it. Personal craft are common enough among the wealthy, but they rarely leave orbital space - The iridium-alloy plating they use to block radiation needs to be specially treated to block enough to leave the magnetosphere of the planet safely.

That doesn't mean there aren't fucktards who try anyway though. Plenty of people developing 13 different kinds of cancer after taking a trip in a personal craft to mars (they rarely make it there without committing suicide in the first place, and if they do the cancer will almost definitely kill them before they get back home.)

15% of Americans still believe the earth is flat though, despite personal space travel being accessible to the middle-class.

Of one wealth family or two or more middle class families were to completely liquidate everything they had, they could get a middle range cargo hauler, but the whole family becomes the crew and lives aboard, with the debt possibly lasting a generation or more, passed down the family.

Ftl is achieved with a (insert technobable) drive, but a human must act as an "anchor" of reality, wearing a helmet connected to the drive computer. The "diver"'s view, knowledge and belief in the ship keeps it together during the dive, while the fly computer also used the divers brain for extra processing power.

Larger ships can house the computers large enough to work around this, but when a tramp freighter captain says him and his crew know every nut, bolt, and fleck of paint on their ship, you'd beat believe it

In game, small craft able to reach orbit are fairly common and reasonably cheap/available. They are not interplanetary.

Interplanetary craft vary by system and most can't really get to the outer planets, legality and regulation apply.

The next step is the craft capable of outer planet travel, including within systems too close to engage hyperdrives.

Hyper drive ships are restricted to corporations and governments. They are considered illegal in the hands of others. Away from the 'civilized regions', control and ownership are no longer as tight. Most are huge monsters, cost savings in size, thousands one most, but even bulk haulers have crews of a hundred. Smaller ships are very expensive and fast, but horrible poor as cargo ships. Maintenance can be painful.

Our ship is in the same size and capacity as Han Solo's and is more aerodynamic. We also have an small triphibian (fly/land/underwater) that holds 4. The cost was high and in some systems, ownership carries the death penalty. It spends far too much time being repaired and tuned up. Fun little ship.

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>>53709884
>>53710788
>>53712593
>>53712829
Considering that 'virginity' is basically a made up non-state that bares 0% physiological differences from 'not-virginity', how the actual fuck is this relevant if it's not just your fetish?
I find this magical realm dull and uninspired.

>>53721350
Why the blockade on humans

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>>53709693
Ships were effectively cars. Enclosed motorcycle style, two seater, four seater and so on, used for getting around planetside and if needed, could take off into space and had a "sprinting" light drive for getting around the solar system. Later in the campaign series, they could be outfitted with a space fold FTL drive with no range limitations, but were dangerous if you came out in the middle of something.

>>53709693
Plentiful and common, but expensive. They're commercial vehicles, and buying one would take a few years' income from the average planet-dweller. A few decades for a brand new one.
Fortunately, Honest J'Onn's Spaceships exists. With a generous finance plan, you too can own a spaceship, if you can come up with the deposit.
Spaceports are way out in the middle of deserts, or on remote islands. Shipping stuff out to them is a bitch, but it's better than a nuclear-powered ship crash-landing on NYC.

If you're lucky enough to be spaceborn, then your first ship is like your first car. It's a right of passage, and marks your progress into adulthood and independence, and lets you buy yourself and your girl out of your parents' businesses.

Admittedly, my setting is based off the 1950s/602/70s Future In Space, where interplanetary travel was like air travel was then, and spaceships are kinda like aircraft were.

I'd do a 'future of now' setting, but I'm waiting to see how that turns out. SpaceX is pushing private space travel hard, but I want a few years to see how that plays out.

>>53721983
It's a psychological thing that the demons in the not-Warp zone out on.

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>>53711595
>>53712100

>>53712496
>tfw you will never have a qt abusive sensory deprivation fetishist literal starship bf

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>>53720478

>>53713483
>Right now, even in Africa, pretty much any person can own more horsepower, eat better food and have access to better medical technology than a 19th century nobleman, Anon.
Can they own the land which they live on? This is such an idiotic little factoid. Nobleman OWNED THEIR OWN LAND. They didn't pay rent, they didn't pay mortgages, they just fucking owned it. How many people do you know who can say that today?

>>53721983
The magical realm really is dull and uninspired, he could get away with if there were elements of "sexual fears and vulnerabilites" like he claims there are, but you don't see anything like that in his descriptions of the setting. So it's just torture porn for the sake of getting his rocks off.

>>53725710
Who cares if they could own their land if they had an objectively lower quality of life? Is the abstract concept of possessing a defined area of dirt *that* enticing?

>>53709693
Small craft (small being a relative term here, the smallest commerically available transport is ~100t and is essentially an apartment with an engine strapped to it) are fairly common, but expensive. Most people acquire them by getting a pilot's license, a profession that requires one and taking a subsistence paycheck in exchange for "working off" the cost of the ship they're given by the company that hires them. Once the ship's paid off, she's legally yours and you take on a higher pay grade, but have to maintain your own ship (usually meaning not much of a change in lifestyle). About 1% of pilots own their own ship.

They're not Jump-capable and usually can "only" manage 0.1C using the miniature Tauspace drives they use to skim across Tauspace instead of actually jumping into it. Within the gravitational disruption range of large bodies they're lucky to achieve 9km/sec, but are restricted to slower speeds by law as they approach any inhabited region of space. That means even a trip between nearby planets will take days, as between acceleration/deceleration, legal speed limits and impulse drive limitations it can take a day and a half to launch from Earth, reach the edge of G-Disruption range (about 100 radii of the given GD-capable mass), hit the half-hour jump to Mars, and repeat the process (though somewhat shorter, perhaps 18 hours) to approach and land on Aries Station orbiting the red planet.

Jump capable craft are heavily regulated, with few not being directly owned by System governments or the Imperial Navy. Most people using them will board via local shuttles or dock their ship inside the jumpship to get to other solar systems. The most famous privately owned jumpships belong to pirates who successfully captured them, paramilitary groups who seized them from pirates and have the diplomatic skill to keep it instead of being forced to return it to the original owner, and Admiral Jefferson S. Carmine, the only man to buy a jumpship single-handedly.

Sort of disappointed that no one has mentioned any interplanetary cruise ship, similar to Fifth Element. Potential for many wacky shenanigans.

>>53728025
To be fair, not a lot of people are actually posting the ships in their settings, a lot of it has been laughing at someone's magical realm.

>>53728040
Yeah I thought about having a laugh at his expense too. But really that's just low hanging fruit at this point.

>>53710788
>It's nonsexual.
>But it has to be girls.
>Caucasian slave-girls who are virgins and systematically rounded up for state-funded emotional abuse.

>>53710788
And yet here you are, jerking off to it.

>>53728108
>just as you say that 2 people take a shot at him
like pottery.

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>>53728184

>>53728184
Fruit's fruit, I gotta eat.

>>53718130
That's what you get for having hope.

>>53709884
It does strike me as important to ask why they must specifically be white, female and virginal.

Not "what is the reason in-setting". Why did you, the setting writer, make this decision?

>>53728362
He explained it >>53718105 here
Something about "playing on historical sexual vulnerabilties and fears".

>>53728402
That sounds more cringe-inducing than a fetish would be, honestly.

>>53728412
It really is, it comes more off as a weak excuse trying to attribute deeper meaning that really isn't there (or at least not visible in his description).

>>53709693

Owning a civilian spacecraft is the equivalent of owning mid-sized ship. Basically only the super-rich have a private owned spaceship, 99% of civilian spacecraft are property of a company or corporation.

It would be like buying an 18-wheeler, with the expectation that you live in that 18-wheeler for months at a time. Space travel is rough going, though it is often romanticized.

While most people might be able to somehow purchase a craft, they would be unlikely to have the desire to do so, let alone the skills to operate and maintain it. A horse was once a status symbol that cost quite a bit of money, but relatively few people lived the romantic, nomadic lifestyle of a cowboy or outlaw; all the same reasons apply to spacecraft now.

Thus only people with an actual reason to travel through space actually do so. Freighters, smugglers, diplomats, Travelers, peacekeepers, large mercenary or outlaw organizations, etc. To everyone else, buying a spacecraft may be a realistic possibility but actually using it less so.

>>53709884
I didn't know Byron Hall posted on /tg/.

>>53728662
>It would be like buying an 18-wheeler, with the expectation that you live in that 18-wheeler for months at a time.
So it's pretty much the same as buying an 18-wheeler?

>>53709884
My setting is similar except you have to use LGBT freaks because demons fear that they would become faggots by devouring their souls.

Non-FTL civil spacecraft are common and relatively inexpensive. A somewhat larger money sink than a bushplane is nowadays, and good for getting around a planetary system.

Low-warp capable and photon-drive ships are less common but not wholly so. Very few people probably own these outright, but it's not utterly unheard of.

Ships with full-power warp drives or tachyon drives tend to be massively expensive undertakings, largely due to the amount of antimatter involved in the manufacturing processes. Normally only the very rich own these outright. But it's not at all unusual for experienced captains from corporate or government services to manage the loans and favors to purchase a ship against credit or services rendered.

All of the above is dependent on where you are of course. Some polities are going to have less of a focus and tradition of shipowning than others, and prices and expectations shift fairly wildly depending on where you are.

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>>53709693
Probably too common in my setting.

Fortunately, with just a sizable amount of effort, it's possible for anyone to get a spaceship.

Unfortunately, with just a sizable amount of effort, it's possible for anyone to get a spaceship.

You want a spaceship for a few months? Rent one! You'll need a large deposit payment, but hey.

You want a spaceship? Well, you can get one custom made from the shipyards, but that will be majorly expensive.

You want a personal spaceship, but you can't, or won't, pay the cash for a custom creation? Then just do what most ship buyers do, and buy one of the, "standard," models. They're churned out by shipyards in the dozens, hundreds or in core worlds, thousands! Easier to get parts. Think of buying a new car from a showroom.

You want a personal spaceship, but can't afford a new one? Buy one used. Might need some fixing, but hey! It's yours now!

You want a spaceship, but can't afford a used ship from one of the, "official," dealers? Buy a junker! You can find them everywhere. They're barely functional and will probably need some major repair, but wow! Look! Your own space ship!

You want a spaceship, but can't afford fucking anything? Build your own! It's not that hard to learn how to make one after spending just a few days reading up on it. There are nearly always scrapyards nearby shipyards and starports. These scrapyards can grow to be the size of entire neighborhoods or even cities on different worlds. It's common to hear stories about scavengers finding usable and rare ship parts after many, many hours of searching. In scrapyards that have accumulated scrap and wreckage over centuries, or ancient ones that are millennia old, there are folk tales about plucky scavengers finding incredibly rare parts that are countless in value.

>>53733642
As for FTL travel, an FTL engine is expensive, even at the lower end. In our terms, it would be like buying a large RV to be pulled by your car.

You can buy a used FTL engine, or with enough experience under your belt, assemble your own out of used parts at the scrapyards. This can be slightly risky to incredibly risky.

Or do what the vast majority of small ships do, and pay the toll for a stargate. They're just beyond the gravity well. It costs a bit, but not too much.

>>53713006
I should mention that travel is normally no farther than just outside the orbit of the moon as FTL doesn't exist unfortunately the moon itself is off limits thanks to the nazi moonbase that's hyper aggressive towards everyone.

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