Can a Huge-sized fire elemental squeeze through an arrow slit to attack someone? The book doesn't exactly say, and while my GM fiat said yes, because I did the same with water elementals, there's nothing in the rules to back me up. It's also very very important to a character's survival whether this can happen (I won't say whether it's for or against). So you guys are the verdict, /tg/.
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>>53652833
Specify a game and edition.
Maybe a smaller one but one that large is pushing it.
Sure, but not necessarily in one round, I'd say. Hedging, I'd say a typical two-inch gap for an arrow slit might let a medium sized elemental through in one round, a large size in three rounds, and a huge size in five rounds. (A Gargantuan might filter through in twenty rounds and a Colossal could have to wait up to fifty, depending)
Like a bathtub filling or emptying, it simply takes time for the elemental pseudo-matter to actually move through such a small aperture.
>>53652863
Pathfinder.
>>53653030
I'd say by the point you get to gargantuan and colossal they should just be ruled as pushing through every opening in the wall simultaneously
>>53653070
That's true. And there are multiple openings very close to each other. Should it just take a full round action or what?
Yes cause your GM said it could.
>>53653278
I am the GM, though. Sorry if I didn't make that clear in my post.
>>53652833
In 5E yes. Nothing I can see that says so RAW in Pathfinder.
Still it's your game the rules don't own you so choose yourself.
>>53653061
No. To explain why, they aren't just a bit of mobile flame, but are semisolid entities composed of elemental fire spirits. This means they have a body that can actually be hit and suffers damage.
Well logically it should be able to seeing as well it is nothing more than heat and light energy from a psychical perspective but it would have to snake through.Of course there is magic there is magic involved which may complicate or simplify the situation depending on how magic works in your world.
>>53653314
Well 5e says so so maybe I'll say it's just takes it a full round action thus giving them an extra round to hurt it.
>>53653356
Ahh I see. Perhaps he will have to open the door then. That does mean a fire elemental could grasp and open a door, right? It might be in smolders afterward but either way it would be open?
>>53653406
>That does mean a fire elemental could grasp and open a door, right? It might be in smolders afterward but either way it would be open?
Yes. In order for an elemental to interact with its environment, it must be solid in some fashion. This isnt just a bit of heat and light, but something utterly unlike we know in our reality. The same is true for a water or air elemental.
>>53653406
Elementals can grapple, therefore they can grab things.
>>53653289
Oh my bad yeah the wording to me looks like "my GM".
But to me I don't see why it couldn't. Plus you already made it happen.