>The women of Magic Which one is the best role-model

Sisay

This >>53638672 or Elspeth

>>53638644
Tamiyo

>>53638644
Not Liliana.

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>>53638644
>implying any of them are
>implying every female MtG character isn't pure feminist bait
>Implying that modern MtG writing isn't straight up liberal propaganda SAMUT, WE WUZ KANGS

>>53638644

Literally none of them. Chandra is completely immature, Nissa is austitic, and Liliana is an unrepentant bitch.

Hell, the best role model for girls is Gideon.

>>53638644
The one with the biggest breasts and widest hips. Teach them to be good mothers.

>>53638644
Tamio

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>>53638897
I too think it would be Teysa, my good man.

Nahiri.
>if something bad ever happens to you just scream and break things and hurt people and you win

>>53638897
>The one with the biggest breasts and widest hips
Wouldn't that be Sheoldred or Tsabo Tavoc?

>>53638787
That's it. I'm going to casual Commander tonight, having a delightful conversation with the hottest available female there, and, with her permission, taking a photo of her holding a sign that says "Fuck you Anon."

>>53638960
qt cripples that manage to succeed in life either through playing on their other strengths or overcome their handicap through sheer willpower are love

>>53639051
Pictures of qt3.14s are always welcome but I fail to see how that is in any way an argument against that anon's points.

>>53639099
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

>>53639051
>with her permission, taking a photo of her holding a sign that says "Fuck you Anon."
I'd like to explore the hypothetical possibility of doing this without her permission, just for the logistics of it.

>>53639051

Please report back with your results, intrepid hero.

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Elesh Norn.

>strong female leader
>not bound by traditional gender roles
>doesn't rely on her sexuality for power
>great fashion sense

>>53639099
Wait, Teysa's an invalid? Poor girl

Tamiyo is literally the only planeswalker without an incredibly fucked up past and personal life who manages to have a wonderful, happy and stable family in addition to planes walker shenanigans.

The story where Ajani visited and told stories to all her little moonfolk kids and she comforted her adopted ratfolk kid who felt out of place was the best magic story I've ever read.

>>53639619
Orzhov problems, due to all their fucky genetics. She's got a hell of a club foot, which is why she has a cane.

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>>53638787

>>53638787
>implying every female MtG character isn't pure feminist bait
I'd agree with you if you talked about the last 10 years max. But to say every single one of them is feminist bait makes me think that you're nothing but just the other side of the same coin as SJWs.

53639530 (You)
53638787 (You)

>>53639431
>great, unifying figure of multiple religious factions
>empowers her peers and colleagues
>demoralizes her enemies with her aura of grandeur and fortitude
>doesn't shrink work

Checks out for me.

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>>53639691
(to be fair i should have said that too, old MtG was baller)

>>53639668
nice straw man nigger

>>53639431
>flat as a pancake, but makes it work

>>53639431
>>doesn't rely on her sexuality for power
>all that bare exposed flesh
most sluts at least have the decency to put some skin on

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>nuMagic waifus

This entire thread is disgusting. Read the lore instead of just chugging down blogposts, you underage troglodytes.

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>>53638960
My fellow of fine distinction.

>>53640020
You calling Teysa nuMagic, punk?

>>53639101
I made an error and assumed it was real women we were talking about here. Then I remembered where we were. This changes nothing. Still doing it and it'll prove him wrong, regardless if it's the right point made in the wrong argument.

>>53639126
Everything works better with consent. Even non-consent.

>>53639530
Please, it's SUPER ULTRA MEGA Fucking white knight beta cuck numale virtue CUTIE TOOTIE FROOTIE LOVE signal. The transformation scene doesn't work if it's not the right chant. Plus it saves on animation costs to just repeat it.

>>53638644
Dear lord that pic is like a 5 fetish pile up for me

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>>53641516
you, I fucking like you

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>>53639169

Sorry, I just got here. Took a quick photo of my group before we start setting up for tonight.

>>53639668
>and then Trump got elected

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>>53638644
Not Smug Anime Lily

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>>53638644
Both Thalia and Anafenza are great role models and great waifus. And this was before WotC went SJW pandering with Fate Reforged and Orgins forward.

>>53639431
But she's removed most of her flesh and replaced it with ceramic armor plating for aesthetic/philosophical reasons.

Clearly not promoting a healthy body image for young girls.

>>53643511
On the contrary, Elosh Norn teaches us we're all beautiful - on the inside

>>53640103
if the artifacts are silver, it's nuMagic

>>53642227
Nice choice

The best is Jhoira though.

>>53639051
That has nothing to do with what he said though. You're pretty fucking stupid.

I really liked jeska/phage

>>53639965
THE FLESH IS THE WEAKNESS
THE FLESH IS THE FAULT

Honestly, Narset.

>Apparently has actual autism
>Doesn't draw attention to it
>Doesn't ever talk about it
>Doesn't ever demand concessions for it

She has a problem, she deals with it, and she excels without ever whining about how "neurotypicals" have it so easy.

Selvala. People giving you shit? Make nature rise up against them. You want the throne? Make nature tears your enemies to shreds. You want your people to stop suffering? Stampede through the streets.

>>53639632
Link that shit, yo

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>>53638644

None, Allah has forbidden the use of magic from mankind.

>>53643570
Thank you for noticing. I worked very hard on becoming so.

>>53641960
>>53639530
>>53639169
>>53639126
>>53639101
>>53639530
Sorry folks, I severely misjudged the traffic size of my new LGS. Just moved out at all. Give guys and myself. That's it. I'm used to twenty to thirty players at any given MTG event.

Not to worry, I'm just going to visit the more trafficked store south of me next week. Expect a thread with no context except the pick and me being extremely smug.

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>>53644953
that anon here and all i have to say is HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHA

>>53638672
>>53638710
My BOYS

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>>53645115
No, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

>>53638787
>implying this post isn't 'pretending to be /pol/ b8

>>53638960
Greedy and probably a literal cutthroat.

I don't think so.

>>53639619
>>53639643

Actually, her leg is Necrotic. I found it hilarious that the church chose her to be the maze runner because she literally can't run.

>>53646294
She gets around well enough though. And is powerful as shit these days.

>>53646303

Well, her power might have dropped because she was caught by the ghost counsel somewhere she shouldn't have been.

>>53639051
m'lady

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>>53638644
Elspeth

>>53638672
Sisay is good as well.

>>53638644
Liliana. Teach those little girls to take up loan sharks' shit and then put a bullet where their brains should have been.

>>53646280
Not really. She's an Azorius lawmage, pretty much just Orzhov by birth. Definitely errs on the W side of BW.

>>53646350
Is this the last we heard of her? Being caught after her attempt at getting some leverage against the council with Tajic? Damn shame, I want more of the both of them.

>>53642100
>and then he is the biggest joke of a president you even had.

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>>53638960
>>53640093
Ah, I see there are patricians among us today.

>>53647310
Yep, as far as we know the Ghost Council have her locked up somewhere, torturing/pressuring her somehow until she gets with their program.

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Alesha

>>53643836
This desu.

>>53647310
Well if the story a short while ago is any indication, we might be getting another block in Ravnica some time soon.

>>53639051
LOL you fuckhead Wayne you aren't supposed to actually put your name in the "name" section.

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Engufling Slagwurm

>>53639431
>not bound by traditional gender roles
>Good influence
I couldn't disagree more.
The best is clearly Anax and Cymede.
A good man needs a good woman by his side.

>>53647577
As a non-American, I think Americans had more shameful presidents than Trump who truly made a mockery out of the presidential office. Andrew Jackson, for example.

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>>53649129

>>53649133
Stop biting on political bait on tg and stop with the shit tier opinions while you are at it

>>53639431
>my gf will never bring the glory of New Phyrexia to the denizens of other worlds

I've made a crucial mistake.

>>53649178
Oh, you're one of those who think Andrew was a total badass and not a mentally troubled man. Gotcha.

>>53638644

~Good Role Model Tier~
>Tamiyo
The only functional adult of the lot.
>Elspeth
If you ignore how she was written in Alara and QFK and just go by the comics and NPH/Theros stories she's someone who had to face down a lot of hardships to grow into a real hero, overcoming her fears and giving the mission her all. Pity how that ended...
>Jaya Ballard
She's got a heck of an attitude but it doesn't prevent her from fighting for what's right.
>Michiko Konda
Like Elspeth, shows the strength of courage and conviction. Unlike Elspeth, comes away with something of a happy ending

~Neutral~
>Sisay, Hanna, Orim, Kayla bin-Kroog, and Rayne
The women of the Weatherlight Saga can be hard to pin down thanks to an ensemble cast handled by a lot of writers, but there's nothing really wrong with them

~Flawed Role Model~
>Xantcha
Differs from Elspeth in that ultimately she CHOOSES to die for what she believes in. Granted, she does it standing up to the monstrous authority figure that tormented and terrified her for her whole life, but still...
>Liliana
... Okay, so she sold her soul to demons and now is trying to weasel out of the deal via murder. That's pretty bad, but she's also the only Gatewatch member to have a cool head and an adult perspective. The rest of them are written like stupid teenagers, Liliana at least has a class and grace that's worth having
>Nissa
There's nothing really WRONG with her as a role model, I guess, but she's such a shit tier character that she can't make neutral.
>Teysa
On the one hand, she's Orzhov, a willing part of a corrupt theological plutocracy. On the other hand she doesn't totally agree with the worst of their direction and she's a successful lawyer on her own merits.

~Shit Role Model~
>Varchild, Selenia, Tsabo Tavoc, Belbe, Akroma, Phage, Jeska...
Various degrees of villain, fucked-up psychology, or both
>Chandra
TPF Chandra was flawed at worst, but modern Chandra... she is a whiney, immature, irrational, foul-tempered brat.

>>53640020
WHY WOULD YOU READ THAT GARBAGE???

>>53642048
You need to put the Brazzers watermark back on that image, anon.

>>53642048
>>53649559
Oh, excuse me. The New Sensations watermark was difficult to make out. Love you.

>>53638644
Liliana is a decent rolemodel because she bullies nerds (Jace)

>>53640103
Absolutely.

>>53643992
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/release-2016-10-05
It bounces between him saving folk on Kaladesh, and him on Kamigawa hanging out with Tamiyo.

>>53640020
>posting The Leg
You may be incorrect, but you're pretty alright in my books
>>53649064
>we might be getting another block in Ravnica some time soon
>worriedlaughter.jpg

>>53649923

The Kraul are getting ready to pull a coup and take over the Golgari. That's kinda cool.

>>53641516

You have rebuilt some of my faith in this message board.

>>53647647
>holding a Feldon's Cane
nice.

>>53647647
>>53640093
>>53638960
How do you feel about her limp leg tho?

There is a reason she got a cane

>>53647230
Delusional.

Her heroic action in Guildpact was directly ado with her alignment with long-term economic goals. And probably also for a touch of revenge.

She also
>Considers having the opposing advokist from her first scene killed, as an alternative to hiring her. Whatever gets a skilled player like that out of her way.
>Murders one of Zomaj Hauc's foremen in a scheduled meeting to make a point about how she won't deal with underlings.
>Shows over and over that she's willing to have people gamble their life's work for a chance at greater reward later.

>>53657147
>Her heroic action in Guildpact was directly ado with her alignment with long-term economic goals. And probably also for a touch of revenge.

Well, if the plan is "use ancient dragons to destroy most of the city and then take over," then that sure does fuck up the current economic standard.

Since it was, I think we can say that she was in it for sheer value.

>>53649621
>Bullies beta manginas
>Manipulates lesbians
>Kills demonic merchants
>Doest fall for BBC
Liliana is the purest smug not-anime girl.

>>53657831
>Purest

Nice twist there, by the way
>kills demonic merchants
so she doesn't have to deal with the consequences of literally contracting her soul out four different ways.

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>>53649179
So it would seem, Anon.

>>53638644
Whichever has the largest tits now.

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>>53660971
No contest.
The little greenery at the bottom are trees, not weeds.

>>53649621
Nerds being bullied by cute girls is not a good thing

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Lili is a terrible role model. She sold her soul to demons because she lusts for power.

It's ok to lust for power, but earn it through bettering yourself, not selling your soul (which is itself something you're given and didn't acquire).

Any of the heroic women who fight against bad people are the good role models, and there are a bunch. Both magical and non magical. You don't need superpowers to be impressive/a role model, even in the mtg universe.

>>53649621

Don't forget that she bullies the nerd into fucking her.

Literally best role model

>>53649231
The two aren't mutually exclusive.

>>53660956
>skin
What the fuck is this shit?

>>53638644

If your little girl is interested in magic the gathering, i'm afraid it's already far too late.

>>53638960
Reminder that she was used as a submissive sex toy by her assistant with her uncle's approval.

>>53658367
It's no crime to steal from a thief.

>>53638787
Thanks for reminding me I need to add we wuz kangs to my meme words filter.

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>>53638644
Samut

>>53643836
Qt quiet asian gf that has a thing for martial arts. I like it.

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Sliver Queen

>Needing """role-models""" from shitty games
hahaha.
Wanna know how I know your seed is weak and your bloodline is made of sissies and queers anon?

>>53638644
Little girls have enough role models already.

>>53649410
I'd agree with pretty much all of that except for Elspeth, entirely due to the latter part of Journey Into Nyx where she goes full survivors guilt suicidal, but otherwise she's great.

Also fuck yeah, Michiko was great.

>>53661299
She is earning it. Demon murder ain't easy, but they are one of the few morally acceptable demographics to screw over and murder.

>>53649410
I can't argue against your analysis, this all seems accurate. Especially Chandra. The sad thing is I could actually like her as a character if the stories she was in and the people around her acknowledged how stupid and impulsive she is. The writers want us to gasp at how cool and badass she is, but if she was just presented as the fuckup with a ton of power she is she'd both be way more fun and have room for growth.

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>>53638644
Glissa.

>>53683708
>gets BLACKED and betrays her people
>good role model
Shlomo please go.

>>53649133
I mean you got a fair point. Andrew Jackson literally didn't do his job as President. Trump's just bumbling a bit with it.

>>53644151
So we should all use magic!

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>>53639716
it was an ad hominem you fucking mouth breather

>let me say nigger to sound edgy and provocative
you have to be 18+ to be on this site, anon

>>53674055
Why this card trigger so much people?

>>53685237
>:D

>>53685339
Legit question, I haven't been keeping up since last block was so shit.

>>53685361
Her lore is shit, her card is blatantly commander bait, and her walker card is blatantly commander bait. Standard players rightfully get upset when the planes hero is just edh fodder that they have no chance to play and is also 50% of the marketing material. Also shes got a huge chance of joining the gatewatch which people hate.

>>53685434
She's also really boring in terms of design too. "She's a Speedster" is fucking trash.

>>53685541
>key ability is doublestrike
>is speedster
I thought double strike was always combat skill not movement speed. What the fuck is duelist heiritage then? Is it a giest that gives you superspeed?

>>53639431
top lol-e

>>53686174
They literally took every word which seemed speedy and slammed it on her legendary

And giving haste as a +1 would be pretty bad

>>53686546
I fucked that up because drugs
>+1 until your next upkeep the next creature spell you cast is uncounterable and can be played as though it had flash. It gains haste

>>53639716
What's an NCR ranger doing with a sonic emitter instead of an AMR? Those things are fucking rare, and kinda shit.

>>53639051
>tips

>>53638644
Worzel.

Pros: The very first Planeswalker mentioned as such in all of Magic. OG Cred.

Cons: Is named 'Worzel'. Uses Scryb Sprites in a serious match.