How do I make a beast race without me looking like a furryfaggot?

>>53618780
Have more races in your setting so the two furry races don't imediately stand out. your setting completely sounds like a furry setting, you furfaggot

>>53618780
make em ugly as hell or something idk what furries find attractive.

>>53618780
You are a furry, aren't you? You just want us to tell you how to trick people into joining your furry setting.

>>53618780

So different people at different times playing different settings you devised called you out for being a furry faggot?

You must be a furry faggot then. Stop putting furries in your settings, faggot.

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>>53619134
>>53619204

Yeah, that's what I have. I'm tired of orcs, elves dwarfs and halflings so I've been making my own.
But it always fucking happens, even though there's 4-armed giants and brass automatons some greasy pudgy fuck comes in and tells me that it's a furry setting even though the beastmen are fucking anger fuelled maniacs and the lizards are slimy fucks from the desert who can barely think.

>>53618780
>that pic

Fucking Sleestacks

>>53619134
>>53619204
Also, they don't even really know anything about my setting when they start bitching about furries.
All they do is look at the race options and immediately dismiss it.

I think your problem might just be that you're using animal men that are based one specific animals instead of races that are inspired by or amalgamations of animal traits. People are calling you out for anthropomorphizing animals because that's exactly what you're doing.

It's also troubling that you mention that this has happened multiple times, and instead of pulling back and doing some self analysis you come to /tg/ and call them greasy, pudgy fucks. Assuming the races are fine, you must be doing something with your attitude or presentation that triggers their furry alarms.

>>53619344
The simplest option is probably to just not play with these people, and ignore what they have to say.

>>53618780
Ignore him.
>it's always a different guy as well
Ignore them.

>>53619244
Use rulebook of Ironclaw and try to excorsise them like if it was Bible

>>53619244
The only solution is to stop giving their opinions more attention than they deserve.

You've put the work in to make your animal-people detailed and interesting. If these individuals are either jaded or stupid enough not to at least hear you out, then it's their loss, and you should stop trying to cater to them. If you want to put work into getting them to shut up, you're better off compiling a list of beastmen commonly understood to be good rather than adjusting already fine races to please greasy douchebags.

>>53619415
Yeah it just pisses me off. I'm pretty fucking greasy and pudgy myself anyway.
I didn't make this thread to complain, I wanted genuine advice.
And they've already gone through various iterations as well because of this. They used to be more like Argonians, being able to function in a society etc. It was probably for the best anyway since both of them are
way more interesting now.

do the gay test were you watch gay porn with your friends after you've taken viagra but watch furrieshit instead. no erection=not a furrie= no reason to not have beastmen in your game.

I think it depends on the context, or the people.
IIRC minotaurs are playable in D&D4e (yeah yeah I know it's 4e) and all editions of Dragonlance and I don't recall people instantly calling anyone running those games a furry. Nor do people usually get too uppity about kobold PCs in my experience. So chances are that it's something besides that they're there, or you just keep running into asshats.

>>53619415
>People are calling you out for anthropomorphizing animals because that's exactly what you're doing.
Doing literally one of the oldest tropes in human imagination, how fucking awful.

>>53618780
>but there's ALWAYS some faggot in my store who dismisses my games as furry ERP (it's always a different guy as well)
Not sure if this is a sign your store is polluted with a cancerous numbers of memers who can't hide their powerlevels or if it's a sign more of the younger crowd is becoming this altogether, but regardless I'd honestly just find a different spot to play. Most people I game with have an offhand familiarity with "furries", but they never visit 4chan or even reddit so they're not getting their panties in a twist whenever someone plays an anthro character. As long as the person playing the character in question isn't being That Guy, I'd rather have him in the group than the guy spouting memes all session.

At the end of the day, just do what you want. If you aren't making your settings magical realm aside from a few anthro characters, then it's their loss for sperging out about it. Anthropomorphic animals have been around in fiction and folklore a lot longer and will doubtlessly outlive some dumb Something Awful tradition. There's no reason why you have to limit yourself creatively because some other assholes don't know when to keep it on the internet.

>>53618780
maybe the beastfolk are all cursed people?

>>53618780

>Lizard dudes

WTF do furries even like lizards?

>Bulls:

Maybe some 40k Orc shit. They are completely asexual beings reproducing through other means. Or maybe they are created like Uruk Hai.

>>53618780
Oldfag reminder that hating on furries didn't come from some fundamental epiphany that anthropomorphic animals are satanic, but simply that furries (the subculture) are insufferable tremendous faggots, who had to be booed off of 4chan just to stop of them from pelting moot with legal threats and Do Not Post lists (practically unenforcable, especially at the time.)

It practically became a meme to hate furries, and that united front of hatred was necessary to get them to fuck off.

But it was never really about "ew they have gross porn and you are gross for watching it" or "fuck Ducktales, Golden Compass and Mouseguard am i right!? How degenerate!"

Stop trying to fit in so hard. You make me want to vomit.

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>>53621618
>>Lizard dudes

Sleestak.

>>53618780

Make them bestial (ugly as fuck) and not anthropomorphic in the least. Also give them inhuman characteristics and behaviour.

>>53618780
The problem is with the retard dismissing your setting because of aesthetics.

>>53621618
>WTF do furries even like lizards?
Oh you sweet, pure anon.

do not go into kobold threads. Dark things are happening there.

>>53618780
>but there's ALWAYS some faggot in my store who dismisses my games as furry ERP

Do they play in your campaign? No?
Then their derision is like fart in the wind. If people who you actually play with like your setting and your lizarddudes or whatever this is what matters.

Jeez, anon. Grow a thicker skin.

>>53618780
Pro-tip: you will never get faggots to stop being faggots.

If you put effort into your races and they aren't just furrybait, then you have nothing to worry about. You cannot convince other people to stop being retarded.

Alternatively, insist all Elf players are Elf fetishists, same for Dwarfs, Tieflings, etc., and see if they connect the dots.

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>>53618780
1.try to adjust their form to make them non-sexual (move away from the human-adult bodyshape).
2.dont make them [animal]-folk, but try out a new blend.
3.Dont make them behave in a way a human would if they pretended to be an animal, or as if they actively bring out the animalistic traits they find within themselves.
4.make them mechanicly interesting (not really addressing your propblem, but you should do it anyway)


works for me every time.

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>>53618780
I hate furry with a burning passion for this very reason. Years ago, I could have any fucking races in my setting, dog people, lizard people, bat people, and now even if you have a fucking gnoll in your setting you're gonna be called a furry.

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Make them more offputtingly inhuman.

Bull dudes in particular would cause me to immediately call you a furfag if I was in your vicinity, because I cannot think of a way for them to not be sex objects. The animals themselves, are historically sex icons. It'll be hard to progress from here.

It's not even that hard to go far enough outside the box though. Consider a race of deer dudes who have antlers protruding from all over their body, creating a kind of bone cage that they live inside at all times, eating grass and the remains of whatever they can batter and ram to death. Suddenly they are weird and offputting enough to no longer be the immediate anthropomorphisation of their core animal, and thus a little too complicated to just be a sex object. I don't give the slightest fuck about how fancy the culture of your dog dick toting Gnolls are, it's the fact that they are just a dog head on a ripped and fucking sculpted man body, maybe some changed joint directions, that matters.

If Gnolls had dog heads for hands, I would assume there was more to them than your own sick fantasies.

Lizard races are pretty easy to make unique. "Lizard" is a broad category. There's all sorts of wild directions you could go. Maybe they get bigger with age and can spend smaller and smaller periods of their day away from the buoyancy of water. Maybe they have telecopic eyes, whatever.

Bull people are a bit harder because you picked a hella specific animal that is also pretty boring, and has a strong tradition of anthropomorphism and sexuality (literally all of a bulls distinguishing features as opposed to other cattle relate to sex) already. I spent a good 5 minutes trying to think of anything, but I am not convinced that you can think of a distinguishing bull feature that doesn't lead back to them being sex objects.

>>53628068
>move away from the human-adult bodyshape

Actually a pretty good start.

A deer on 4 legs with humanoid features would be horrifying but like, probably not furry at that point.

>>53618780

Couple of notes how to use beast races and avoiding furry territory.

> NO romantic interests and beast people don't talk about their wives or children. Just avoid that shit.
>Short descriptions of their physique. Lionman is huge. Snakeman is agile. That is it. We all have previous knowledge lodged in our mind how they look. Lionman doesn't have huge bulging biceps and Snakeman isn't lithe and slender. That is furry territory. Avoid it.
>avoid using animal noises in their speech. If they howl or growl you say they howl or growl. You don't try to produce those noises.
>If for some reason you need to use a cat beastman he must be male. Avoid Catgirls. Also you aren't to say meow or nyaa.
>Avoid animal mannerism like describing that their lick water, lick their fur, waggle their tail, scratch their ears with hind-legs and similar shit.

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>>53618780
Everyone got different ideas about what a beast/furry character should be. Make what you want and quit letting the other nerds bully you.

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Literally why do you even give a shit.

>not having proud lion kings
>not having cunning fox thieves
>not having badass bull barbarians who crush human pussy
>not having wild, untamed wolf rangers
>not having badger blacksmiths, forging great steel armor and weapons
>not having sleek otter pirates
>not having gentle sheep healers
>not having powerful owl wizards
>giving even a single shit

Does the thought of some fatass jerking off to these awesome character archetypes really gross you out so much you just can't even fathom having an instantly recognizable, insanely expressive animal-person-character? Do you have an idea how much more generic and sexualized an elf ranger girl or sorceress is compared to those?

And once again, why do you give even a single shit? "Furry" characters have never been a problem, they aren't bad, there is nothing wrong about sexualizing them or not. You sound like you're an immature 14 year old boy who just discovered Encylopedia Dramatica. Literally get over it.

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>>53618780
>caring about what retards think

>>53628210
Minotaurs are in basically every generic fantasy universe and have been a general race as early as D&D2e. Are you calling any setting that uses one of the oldest monsters in pop culture furry?
I mean yeah the original myth is pretty...that but as long as that context is gone it should be fine as long as their pants stay on at all times.

>>53628068
I keep seeing this creature here.

Did Colette/2hu finally switched the object of his autistic obsession?

>>53628224
Feral Furry.
The only cure is to stop fucking caring about opinions of people you wouldn't want to play with anyway.

>>53628210
>Bull dudes in particular would cause me to immediately call you a furfag if I was in your vicinity, because I cannot think of a way for them to not be sex objects. The animals themselves, are historically sex icons. It'll be hard to progress from here.

M8.

m8.

Are you

Are you sure it's not just you?

>wow, you have wolverine-people in your setting? wow, you're such a furry
>fuck off you goddamn closet-furry. don't you have a fucking date with a noose? go home and fucking end it already.

Problem solved. Telling someone to go kill themselves in real life is double as effective as online, so that should work.

>>53618780
Make them chimeric and ugly in nature. Like, don't just make lizard guys, make them lizard crayfish guys with mantis shrimp natural weapons or something.

>>53620971
Lots of people call those options furry though. They just don't dismiss the entire setting, like lots of people like Dragonlance but not kenders.

In all honesty OP should just stop playing with faggots with no manners, this is always the first step. With this done, if he wants to play with the people who is calling his animal guys furry he should just convince them with other things of the setting and leave animal races for those who enjoy them. You're not gonna change people's tastes.

>>53618780

Make them unfuckable and non-sexualized for starters

>>53628702
The problem is that if you have General Autissimo in your group, he will halt the game because furry and object to the furry until you kick him, which you might not be able to do. So your only other option is to sterilize your setting so the social retard doesn't get upset.

>>53629082
Or expel General Autismo.

>>53618780
Why are they doing that Italian thing with their fingers?

>>53628962
That's even worse. That's admitting you think you made a furry race and that's wrong, so you're going out of your way to make them unappealing to compensate.

>>53629090
> which you might not be able to do
Maybe you're playing in General Autismo's house. Maybe the group doesn't care and would rather play without your race than without General Autismo. Maybe you have multiple Autismos and if you ban them there's not enough players left for the game to continue. Sometimes there are no good options.

>>53629154
As a longtime GM, compromises with autismos don't work. If it's not furries, they'll blow up over something else, and i value my time too much to tiptoe around easily agitated retards. I'll find another group, the one that doesn't fly into autistic rage about things like race variety.

>>53618780
Sleestak are insects, not lizards.

>>53618780
dont make them cute make them semi ugly or realistic to get the "real" animal look.

>>53629154
Do people really bend over backwards to appeal to the whims of retards? I'd rather put forth that effort to find better players by that point.

>>53628799
he's kinda right there tho

>>53628765
I'm not saying minotaurs aren't a thing, I'm saying minotaurs are a hella sexual thing, even in the original greek context bulls were a fucking fertility symbol. It started furry, it hasn't gotten not furry, and it never won't be furry.

>>53628799
I knew people would try and get at this but if you actually applied critical thought to the situation you would rapidly realise I am right and that a bull man has for literally thousands of years up until recently when people starting making PG rated derivatives of mythology been a fucking weird sexual thing relating to hypermasculinity.

>>53618780
By making them not sexual attractive or attracted to humans.

The lizards do not possess pronounced dimorphism beyond size and color variance. They lay eggs. They are alien to mammal thought processes

The bulls keep here's of heifers. They find human women unattractive due to their small size and strange udders with only two teats. Humans are flimsy and not at all good for breeding. The only bulls attracted to them are sexual deviants who like little girls.

>>53630285
Sort of like your wife's bull?

If people don't like it, then their loss, if they drop a game just because it might be Furry, God knows what else will trigger them and make them drop the game.

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Just make fucking monstergirls if you don't wanna be a furry goddamn

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>>53628702
I've been meaning to buy Armello for a while now. thanks for reminding me anon.

>>53630533
I'm glad you understand that you have to completely deflect the topic, or pretend to be retarded to not understand my core premise, namely that there is no way to refer to half-bull half-human creatures in a way that couldn't reasonably be construed as carrying deviant sexual connotations. Or indeed, not even then, given your response.

>>53630533
You try to mock him, but the very fact that "bull" is the word chosen works in favour of his argument. Cucks won't call the other guy "dog", "bird" or whatever.

>>53629131
>so you're going out of your way

It doesn't really quantify as going your own way when you simply make an animal race look animalistis/realistic and thus unappealing

>inb4 bu-bu-but animals are appealing and sexy to me

you sick fuck I bet you're canadian as well

>>53630500
>The only bulls attracted to them are sexual deviants who like little girls.
Go on...

>>53619244

Are they in your game? No? Fuck 'em; they are just mad they didn't come up with it.

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>>53630713
How dare you sir, implying that person could be canadian. I should report you to the authorities for such language.

>>53618780
>Have beastfolk in setting because I love them
>Play with dudes
>They call the furrycard
>Now I'm ashamed and insecure what kind of beastfolk I'm allowed to enjoy

First of all unstick your high-school freshman head from your middle school ass and get fucking clean about one thing, nigger:

Furries and Anthropomorph animals are in the same boat. If it's an Anthro, it's a Furry, and you may very well be labelled a Furfag for enjoying them. That's the consequence you'll have to live with. No matter how much people are going to try and give some arbitrary differentiation between "Those annoying special snowflake furfaggots!" and "those awesome brutal beastmonsterraces!", the overlap is great, big and strong, unlike your weak-ass psyche.

So just fucking do it, man. Have those Lizards and Bulls and fucking rainbow coloured Alicorn pony people in your setting. Don't give a fuck. The fuse of beast and human is as old as our fucking species, it's abso-fucking-lutely okay to enjoy wanting to play pretend as an eight feet tall slothman. Don't let those assholes tell you otherwise. There's nothing deplorable about that.

What IS deplorable is if you're trying your worst to force everyone in the group to like your six-inch ant person and compliment you for your originality. You're playing pretend as a human who suddenly grew mandibles and frills or some shit, calm your balls, man.

Now get out there and if they give you shit you just tell 'em to fuck off if they don't like it, YOUR setting has juicy thicc shortstack goatpeople in it and that's the end of it.

>>53630848
>and fucking rainbow coloured Alicorn pony people in your setting
Alicorn PCs aren't allowed in ToE

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>>53630848
>juicy thicc shortstack goatpeople in it
Ill take ten please.

And since we're all talking about anthro races, what do you all think of substituting horse people for minotaur civilization. Basically keeping the greek style and mediterranean based culture of most minotaur versions, but swapping in horses instead. Say they were created when the sea mated with the king or great spirit of horses, basically doing a rule 63 of poseidon and his love of horse shaped goddesses.

They'd be an old race, on the decline. Once having fought against the notAtlantis empire, and having sheltered some of its refugees when it blew up.

I got the idea after hearing and seeing a greek fisherman's dance after reading about Poseidon's love of mare. The image of almost 8 foot tall horse people wearing these silly outfits and singing greek tickled my fancy.

>>53618780
As a furry, I will say very clearly that this will not work. The secret to "non-furry" animal people is to not fucking think about the "furriness" when you make them.

If you say make everything explicitly as non furry as possible, said rude dude in the shop will just call you out on it, and he'd be right.

Just make the setting as you damn well please and fill it with whatever races you find cool.

As for your request, here's some non-furry furry races that I've used on occasion.
>Horror movie Wolfman
>Mothman
>Illuminati Reptillian Overlords
>Planet of the Apes Simians
>Egyptian Jackal Men

>>53631580
With this distinct Poseidon spin, I think there's a lot of potential for this race, possibly with a Khajiit style of morphisms where Centaurs are a distinct cousin or somesuch.

Personally I do prefer the Minotaur spin because of various historical references you can push in there.

Anyway go for it my Capribro, get your equine party going.

>>53631811
Ohh, centaurs being partially related. What about them being a horrific experiment by notAtlantis, creating a breed of horse warriors to fight against the Equicephs (taking a name from D&D for a horse race as a placeholder for now). Using them as a mocking abomination. Then the centaurs went wild after the ancient cataclysm, and settled into basic hunter gatherer nomads.

Equicephs could dislike them on an almost instinctual level, which would provide great roleplay for anytime a party with one has to travel through centaur territory.

>>53618780
Just use traditional AD&D minotaurs instead of your bull people next time.

>Minotaurs are either cursed humans or the offspring of minotaurs and humans. They usually dwell in underground labyrinths, for they are not confused in these places, which gives them an advantage over their prey.

>Minotaurs are huge, well over 7 feet tall, and quite broad and muscular. They have the head of a bull but the body of a human male. Their fur is brown to black while their body coloring varies as would a normal human’s. Clothing is minimal, usually a loin cloth or skirt.

>Combat: Minotaurs are very strong (equivalent human Strength of 18). Against man-sized opponents (minimum 6 feet tall) they may butt for 2-8 points of damage. Against smaller opponents, they bite for 1-4 points of damage. If a minotaur is 30 feet or more from its opponent, it can lower its head and charge against any creature that is at least 6 feet tall. If successful, the charge causes double head-butt damage. In addition to these attacks, most minotaurs also carry weapons – a huge axe (treat as a halberd) or flail, with which it inflicts normal damage +2.

>Minotaurs are not particularly intelligent, but are extremely cunning and have excellent senses. They have a +2 bonus on their surprise rolls, have infravision, and can track prey by scent like a ranger, with 50% accuracy. They always pursue an unfamiliar scent. Minotaurs are immune to maze spells. They attack any intruder without fear, and will retreat only if the creature is obviously beyond their ability to defeat (+3 to morale score in combat).

>Habitat/Society: Minotaurs live in communities of up to eight members. If the community contains more than six minotaurs, one will be an elder minotaur with 18/50 Strength and 8+4 Hit Dice. The minotaur elder is the clan leader; he remains in the center of the labyrinth and raises young minotaurs while others hunt. He is always encountered in the center of a labyrinth.

1/2

>>53632042
>A minotaur’s labyrinth is rarely natural. Often an evil wizard or a tyrant will construct a labyrinth and place the minotaur family there, feeding it prisoners and slaves on a regular basis.

>Occasionally this tyrant will be killed and the minotaurs forced to fend for themselves; since creatures rarely enter a labyrinth on their own accord, these minotaurs will usually be ravenously hungry.

>Minotaurs speak their own primitive language and are 25% likely to speak a halting form of common. They have little culture; their lives resemble animals more than humans. Their culture venerates physical strength above all else and particularly strong human fighters have been known to earn their respect. They worship crude gods and have weak clerics (maximum 3rd-level shaman). Rumors persist of more intelligent minotaurs with developed societies.

>Ecology: The curse which creates minotaurs is unknown, but sages suspect it involves “crimes against the natural order”. Minotaurs are always male. It is also said that the first minotaur was originally a great and ill-tempered human fighter; he wanted to be as strong as a bull and his wish was granted in the most hideous manner possible. Minotaurs breed with human females to produce offspring, which are male minotaurs. Minotaurs have a lifespan of 200 years. They can live without food for years at a time, but are always hungry unless they are fed regularly. They are meat-eaters, but their curse causes them to prefer a diet of human flesh. Those transformed into minotaurs by curses may be restored to human form by a wish, but those who were born as minotaurs cannot be made human. Gnolls are their natural enemies; they will kill each other on sight.

2/2

>>53631957
I generally dislike the "Race is created from [XY] for purpose [YZ]" angle. In that regard your approach seems plausible.

I would rather go about the Centaurs being just an offshoot or different species to the Equicephs, much like Neanderthals to the Sapiens. Maybe spin it so that the Equicephs and the Centaurs, conceived in not!Poseidon's love, would be born unto the shores in the mist of crashing waves. The centaurs were driven away by the "pure" Equicephs, who viewed them unfit to walk the beaches and behold the beauty of the open waters, and exiled them further into the land. As such the Centaurs take rivers and lakes as sacred places, the few remaining opportunities they have to commune with their patron deity living in the water. The Equicephs would then go on to build a seafaring empire connecting archipelagial city states and their continental capitol together, until not!Atlantis raised their own armada and challenged them for naval supremacy. In an act of political intrigue did not!Atlantis provide weaponry and supplies to the Centaurs, who would go on to besiege and eventually take the continental capitol, making it their own, as well as re-establishing their connection to their patron deity.

Make them always evil.
Make them hideous and not that much antropomorphic, just vaguely humanoid.
Imply that they ARE effect of bestiality, and that's why fucking animals is wrong - it spawns hideous beasts that want to rip you apart.
See beastfolk races done right:
Gnolls, Warhammer's Beastmen, and Glorantha's Broos.

>>53618780
Make them like Warhammer beastmen.

Though if you have a That Girl, that will not dissuade her.

>>53618780
>How do I make a beast race without me looking like a furryfaggot?
>I really fucking love putting Lizard and Bull dudes in my setting, but there's ALWAYS some faggot in my store who dismisses my games as furry ERP (it's always a different guy as well).
I just tell them "No, I'm not a furry" and ignore them, but then again I'm a big boy.

>>53632410
This honestly just sounds like the furry version of overcompensating for being in the closet, like the people who become skinheads to hide that they're gay.

>>53618780
Give them alien mindsets, definitively inhuman physical and/or mental traits, and absolutely do not give them expressive faces. A lizardman's face should be as baffling to humans as his lizard cousins' faces are.

>>53628228
Sooo, why have them be beastfolk if you aren't going to even address their beast-like physiology and associated mannerisums? At that point you've just reskinned humans.
Genuinely curious why everyone is so scared of halving their beastfolk to "furry". As long as your intent isn't to make them over sexualized piles of yiffing and you don't allow players to turn them into that i don't really see the issue with beastfolk. So what if bob the furry gets a little excited when you describe the minotaur kool-aid manning through the wall with his imposing muscular body. If bob becomes a problem player because he can't keep his shit together, boot bob. Otherwise why are you tying yourself up in knots trying to avoid "the furry menace" so much.

>>53618780
Everything is furry. There is no escape.

>>53632056
So why do they hate gnolls, old war grudges?

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By not being magical realm. It's that fucking simple.

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>>53618780
Assuming you're not a furry, this should be really easy. Present them as you would any other race. Unless your design for bull people is a race of monogendered all-male minotaurs with glistening bulging muscles and foot-long cocks that swing hither and thither, you don't need to change anything about them. Just do what feels natural. You want a race of bull people? Go for it. Stop caring about what strangers in a fucking game store think about you, you're not obligated to value their opinion.

Whether or not something is "furry" is irrelevant. Anthropomorphizing animals is old as the stone age, the Löwenmensch figurine is 40,000 years old, that predates pervs getting their rocks off to the furry Robin Hood movie. Furries don't have a monopoly on animal people, and neither does any other fetishist have on their subject matter. You don't lock up every character's feet away in unremovable shoes just so nobody thinks you're a foot fetishist, so why do you feel the need to add all these unappealing attributes to your beast races to assure people you're not getting off to them?

And really, the concept of something being "furry" is wholly arbitrary. Call it a bull-man and you're a furry, call the same thing a minotaur and suddenly you've got an appreciation for mythology. Something's an anthropomorphic dragon? Wow scalie, go buy a dragon dildo you fag. Oh, you mean it's a Dragonborn? That's fine, pass the PHB.

If someone is that opposed to beast races based on the fear that the GM is rubbing themselves under the table, then that's their problem, not yours.

t. furry faggot

>>53618780
Best advice I can give is create the race you have in your head and give exactly 0 fucks what /tg/ thinks. Because let's face it, /tg/ will criticize and ostracize you no matter what you do so "fuck'em".

Ultimately if it works, it works. And unless your idea actually is just wank material, the players at your table will likely be happy to run with it.

>>53618780
OP if you meet a person during the morning and you think he's a faggot then he's probably a faggot. If you go around all day meeting people you think are faggots then either you're the faggot or you're at a pride parade.

>>53618780
The trick is to disregard people who bitch and moan about that shit and put stuff in your setting that you enjoy.

How come no one ever gave the Elder Scrolls slack for it?

>>53630622
Those are way worse than furries, anon. You might as well try to get people to play your MLP homebrew.

>>53639596
elder scrolls is furry garbage too

>>53639604
playing one right now, going fine

>>53639733
A weeaboo faggot like you would be instantly kicked from one of my games

>>53619204
>if they're not guilty, why would they be accused?

>>53620997
I'd not be surprised if I saw someone call out American Indian groups for being filthy furries because Coyote talks.
Or ancient Romans because Zeus fucked every animal he saw.

>>53625725
>he thinks kobold threads are bad
Dragon thread alternates between decent discussion and wanting to get fucked and eaten at the same time.

>>53628102
Honestly that's less furries' fault as it is people who learned the Fresh Hip New Meme Straight From Four Channeroo was "anything with talking animals is irredeemable" and spread it faster than "covfefe"

>>53628702
>>53630848
nth posts best posts

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>>53618780
1. Don't be a furry
2. Don't play with furries
Literally all you need.

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>>53637731
>pic related
There's nothing *inherently* wrong with being a furry, so long as you're not Amazing Autismo, Aspergers Anomaly as well. But if you are, being a furry makes it worse.

>>53638630
>You don't lock up every character's feet away in unremovable shoes just so nobody thinks you're a foot fetishist
Plus, that does nothing but make you look like a foot fetishist.

>>53639733
Hope it goes better than mine in a homebrew went.
Played a kickass griffon warrior who could tank damage like a champ but not much else, rather ruthless and ambiguously having eaten pony in the past. Befriended the changeling party member, bonding over "ponies don't trust us, wanna trust each other?" and looking hella cute with her resting on my back.
Fell apart when Amazing Autismo got upset his unicorn mare failed at seducing the magic-wary griffon after he saw her steal secrets from everyone's minds but his, so he Mary Sued harder than a DM with a spine would've allowed. Fucker couldn't be hit in battle and was a single target per turn fucking nuke, but was pissy because the party tank had more health. Literally captured and controlled Nightmare Moon, eventually marrying her. And was still upset because there was a changeling sitting on a griffon.
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>>53640546
>10% is furry
Nice try, furfags.

>>53640693
How new are you?

Use only 'dirty' animals.

For example,

mammalian race, make it based on rats
avian race, make them based on vultures
reptilian race, make them based on gila monsters/komodo dragons
insectoid race, make them based on roaches

>>53640757
Not so new I can't tell kemonomimi from furry.

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>>53639604
>monstergirls
>worse than furries

Die in a fire

>>53640874
I've seen porn of every one of those animals in /v/ derails. There's no stopping furries.

>>53641119
They're babby's first furry. Where you start to want to fuck a cat but are still in heavy denial. There's no other reason to give then ears and tail:
>I don't even pay much attention to the furry parts!
Then she should be human.
>The tail and ears are cuter than humans!
Then admit you're a furfag, liking animal-human hybrids for their animal parts.

>>53641378
It's pretty fucking close between you fuckers and people who actually admit their furfaggotry, but you lot are insufferable with "n-no, I'm not a furry, I just like the idea of fucking a horse or a snake or a fish B-BUT THEY HAVE A HUMAN PART S-SO IT'S OKAY!!"

>>53618780
>Bull dudes
So Minotaurs? I don't see anyone complaining about them.

Normal, non-autistic people have no problem with this sort of thing as evident by the popularity of The Elder Scrolls. No one jumps up and down calling Bethesda a bunch of furry faggots because of the Kajiit or Argornians.

Dont forget about Daggerfall where you can take off all your character's clothes until they were nude.

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>>53641378
Monstergirls are diet furry. Go all the way or don't even bother, I say.

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>>53641501
>There's no other reason to give then ears and tail
Wholly incorrect. Kemonomimi exist as visual accessories with their own connotations and conventions distinct from those ascribed to furfaggotry; most common being the juxtaposition of the *ownership dynamic* of a domestic animal with a human person, or existing as novelty erogenous zones with no parallel to any existing animal. That you recognize only the appeal a furry sees speaks only to your own frame of mind and not to the actual nature of kemonomimi.
Monstergirls are the actual entry-level furries. It is at this level where the abhuman features, in earnest and not in connotation, become the significant point of appeal.

>>53632410
Gnolls are furry as fuck.

There seems to be a new, less terrible kind of furry emerging. And to explain what they are and how they came about, a brief story.

Furries began in the late 80's and early 90's, in the early days of the internet. They did something that, because of the result, hasn't happened to such a degree since: they tried to escape. Hence, furry lifestylers. Everyone else online and in the real world pushed back. Hard. Because of being excluded to such a degree, the furries began to believe that all exclusion is wrong. That's why they stick to their own community (e.g. FurAffinity no displaying any sign of any non-G/PG-rated image to non-users at all), enabling them to make their online identities all about being furries, and why, despite being so full of drama, they'll tolerate almost any other fetish within the fandom, resulting crossing over with more fetishes than any other (that they changed their minds about cub porn is, unfortunately,m impressive for them).

Fast forward to more recently. A new group emerges on the internet, able to emerge thanks to the anonymity and connectivity granted by the internet: young queer people. Seeking acceptance, of course they find the furry fandom. But here's the thing - they're NOT all about yiff yiff cuties and the Library of Babel of other fetishes. Their works actually contain stories and emotions and shit. (Crow Cillers is the greatest fucking thing - Stranger Things before Stranger Things - and I will fight you over it. Don't balk at the price, you can get it all for a buck on Patreon.)

>>53639733
Don't suppose you're looking for more players?

>>53618780
Try using ogre battle (snes) as a basis. Even include the wildmen.

>>53642889
>Beer is diet ethanol. Go all the way or don't even bother, i say.

I don't think Minotaur and saurian will get you beef.

>>53618780
Those dudes would have been shitty players anyways. Be happy that you managed to avoid them before you wasted time playing with them.

Your situation is much better than the asshole who constantly rolls his eyes and talks shit about the "furries" in your game, yet for some reason he keeps coming to the session. And it would be too awkward to make him leave, even though nobody else wants him there.

>>53618780
Play each race out to their logical conclusion instead of just making them animals but mostly human.

>>53618780
Just surrender to your inner furryness.

And stop giving a shit about what random faggots think.

Just do whatever you want. No person who matters gives a fuck about whether your homebrew races are "furry" or not.

If you're worried about furries trying to ERP in your game, just don't encourage them. Do it however you would stop a normal person from trying to do the same thing to a regular barmaid.

>>53637335
Better advice would be "if you use animal mannerisms, use them sensibly". If beastfolk race is sapient they wouldn't act like retarded puppies to the slightest of stimuli. Exploring animal behavior quirks and translating them to character's traits in indirect way is fine. "Hurr durr i'm a lizard" is not.

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>>53632434
or ratmen(they don't exist though) or lizardmen or frogmen.
I've never heard that Warhammer is furry while it have above and animalmen of Ind and monkey kung-fu monks of far Cathay