CHAD DREADNOUGHTS INBOUND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG

>>53463457
I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THIS BROTHER

WHY DO I HAVE THESE "KNEES" NOW?!? THEY SEEM... USEFUL

>>53463457
>Tau gun
activated my walnuts

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>>53463457
>GOLIATH ONLINE

>>53463457
that is the most hideus fucking thing I have ever seen

>>53463495
They always had knees.

>>53463660
its literally a boring ass combination of the two main extant patterns of dreadnought

>>53463457
Okay, so these awesome numarines are already dying?

I guess they weren't so great after all.

>>53463457

FOR FUCKS SAKE
I JUST STARTED A SM FORCE AND NOW ALL MY PURCHASES ARE WORTHLESS BECAUSE IM BUILDING A PRIMARIS FORCE

THANKS GW, THANKS A LOT

>>53463696
Or they put the old dreads into new chases

>>53463769
Or they chopped up a new trooper and put them into a dread.

I don't believe even Legions just sat on their Dreadnought technology waiting for casualties, there must have been some plan to take select troopers to chop up and put into a dread, and once casualties began to pour in, they'd get used instead.

>>53463749
>just as planned

Also lol at playing marines, the Honda civic of Warhammer armies.

>>53463908

Depending upon how long they've been fighting so far it wouldn't surprise me if they just scooped up the injured and stuffed them inside rather than go ahead and do it from the get go.

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>>53463457

Marines have to buy their armies again lol.

>>53463908
>I don't believe even Legions just sat on their Dreadnought technology waiting for casualties

They are a force made for war, they breathe, eat and shit war. Casualties are just routine for them so there's no need to chop someone up when you have 10 crippled marines and are on your way to the next warzone.

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>>53463457
>never ending marine releases for the next six months

so hype

>>53464010
>"Marines, you are the best humanity has to offer, you will wade into the enemy and defeat them, your superior armour and gene-enhancements will make you gods among men. Your weapons will rain a fiery wrath upon your enemies."
>"Sir?"
>"Yes?"
>"What about those big walker things?"
>"Don't worry about them, they're reserved for the fallen."
>"So we're not taking them to battle now?"
>"No, they'll be here, waiting for the injured to arrive."
>"But wouldn't they help?"
>"Yes, their adamantium plating and heavy weaponry makes them strong and powerful weapons."
>"But we're not taking them with us?"
>"No."
>"Oh, ok..."

>>53464065
Yeah, remember when we didn't have endless Marine releases? Me neither.

But these guys just got here. How the fuck did they end up in Dreadnoughts?

>>53463948
This

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>>53463457
That torso/head would make a good Metal Gear head for a conversion.

>>53463620

GO AHEAD, TAC COM

>allthoseflavorsandyouchosetobesalty.jpg

>>53463457
>Running for Large Thigh Gap of 40k

>>53463948

Fuck you I have a FW marine army. That's like the Civic Si at the very least, if not a Type-R.

...I think I'm going to go for a drive in my S2000 and cry.

>>53463457
>I love it
of course you do, the sales pay your monthly bills

>>53463457
Not bad. I prefer the Contemptor family of walkers but It's defiantly better than the old school walking bricks.

>>53463457
tall boy dread?
is that an assault canon under the fist?

>>53464244
Hello, this is the iron hands, is that you inquisitor?

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>>53463660
Ahem

>>53464394
I still can't get over this being designed and actually released. Like has anyone ever thought it looked cool? It's not even like a niche thing, like one of those models most people hate but a few people think is badass - it's just terrible. Literally nobody likes it. What the fuck were they thinking?

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>>53464394
BEHOLD

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>>53464470
I call him Stumpy

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>>53464394

>>53463457

ffs, GW is going to make me collect marines.

how does it see where it steps? there's a huge prow right under the vision slit and auxiliary optics. no secondary cameras under the belly. no gun-cameras.
you could literally sneak up to it, just by not being tall enough for it to see you.
how does it fight in melee? does it just ignore everything that's not a tank, another dreadnought, or a monstrous creature?

>>53463457
Looks awesome, reminds me of the 80s models just better.

it looks great i don't know what you people are on about.

>>53464551
>doesn't already play marines
>likes this shit

Well it's not like I needed any further confirmation of the "hur dur marines are boring why does GW release so much marine shit" hipster faggots had shit taste.

Go play your DE faggot

>A few days of life
>Already dreadnoughts
Kek

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Hey /tg/, it's me, /m/.
Saw a thread about this on /m/ just now and it just kind of ticked me off. I like 40k's mecha design a lot, and this definitely looks fine aesthetically, but something doesn't sit right with me. Is it the knees? I just don't know.
Can you help me out here?

>>53464810
It's still factory new. Once it's been in war for a few centuries it'll have that nice comfy well-worn look of normal dreds.

>>53463749
if you we're starting a primaris force and didn't wait for thhe inevitable minis you've only yourself to blame.

>>53464810
It's definitely the knees or legs. They look really weird. The top half looks fine.

>>53464810
it looks too non-retarded. not blocky-choppy enough, aka not imperium enough. as mentioned before, it could be a battle-mech as well.

>>53464810
I'd say because it's a landwhale
Look at it, it's so fucking WIIIIIIDE it's like a dorf
Still hoping they rip off an atlas thoughif they are going to shove a square urbie in the game

>>53463457
ED-209 looking motherfucker

>>53464810
it actually has thighs

I think the angle is exacerbating things, but giving a box regular-ish legs throws the look off a bit.

>>53464345
looks a little small.
probably a rotorcannon.

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>>53464394
I prefer this version.

>>53464750
probably used interred oldmarines for the initial batch.

>>53464887
I dunno, Primarines are much bigger than regular marines...

Wonder if it comes with two fists with miniguns. 30k BAfags would love some power fists with assault cannons for sure.

>>53464987
>two fists with assault cannons
>two more assault cannons replacing the guns next to the coffin
>assault cannon bolted onto the top

It would have enough dakka

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>>53464987
nah, they're only a little bigger.

>>53464842
I DIDNT KNOW DAMNIT
I BOUGHT THEM ALL BEFORE THE REVEAL
I DIDNT KNOW *Absolutely poor sobbing*

>>53465034
BA dread can only have 2 ACs, though. But it can have a havoc launcher or 2 HK missiles.

Now BA predator... TL turret AC, sponson ACs and a pintle mounted AC. Das sum dakka.

>>53465039
interresting

so they dont dwarf old marines quite as much as the old pics suggested....

>>53464244
I just realized "Tac Com" was "Tactical Command"

When I was little I thought it was saying Takon, like a terran general or something.

>>53463457
I like to think that they will move some "pilots" over to the new Dreadnoughts and they will be like gleeful children.

>BROTHER, I AM HUGE NOW
>THIS IS THE GREATEST FEELING SINCE MY LIFE
>I CAN'T WAIT TO SHOW THE TWINS

>>53465469
>They're actually triplets

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>>53465654

>>53465143
And the plaguemarines are still old-scale

>>53464279
S2000s are rare. I figured an S2000 owner would play Genestealer cults or something less common

>>53465693
Then explain >>53465039

>>53464394
I always thought it could look better if the marine was at the back, kinda puppeteering the whole contraption.

>>53464437
I've seen a few conversions where someone slapped a centurion or dreadnought cover over the spot where the Marine goes and I thought it looked pretty cool. But otherwise, no, the Dreadknight babycarrier is otherwise a stain on an otherwise really cool looking faction.

>>53464745
>sperging this hard
He's just saying he likes the new models, anon

>>53465714
If the one on the left was standing straighter (like the plague marine) and was on a 32mm base as well (which are about 1mm higher) they'd be the same height. Like how the rubrics and deathwatch look bigger but they actually aren't.

>>53463908
The very, very first Dread pilots were likely decorated Initiates crippled by the implantation process. Worthy soldiers who got unlucky.

>>53465826
>"Sir! brother bartlebee stubbed his toe!"
>"INTER HIM IN A BOXNAUT!"

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Just sayin'

>>53465859
did you try running some aloe on his neck first?

>>53465693
I held one in my hand today and compared it to a Dark Vengeance Chosen, no they fucking aren't.

>>53465909
Techpriests with massaging mechadendrites when.

>>53464394
It was good for converting.

>>53465940
>Techpriestesses
FTFY

>>53465983
LEWD

>>53463457
>It looks like something straight out of BattleTech
>I love it

You could just...play BattleTech

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>>53466000

>>53463696
Timeline skip, girlyman got the numarines at the end of 7th and now the idomidus crusade is in full swing during 8th

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>>53465940
>>53465909

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>>53463457
KILL ME NOW
JUST KILL ME
NOW

>>53463988
THaaaaaaaaats why i dont hate this new boxnaught

>>53464131
They're the biological cast-offs, like how 70% of the Spartan-II recruits became horribly ravaged by the steroids and developed cancers and tumors.

>>53463457
I like it

fite me

>>53466173
But I also like it.
We shall stand together against the hoards, brother!

>>53463457
>2017, still buying GW merchandise

Y'all niggas dumb as fuck.

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>>53463457
Sweet. I love stompy mechs and this sits in a nice space between manlet dreds and overpowered knights.

Will probably field at least 2-3 if they're allowed for csm.

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>>53463457
>It looks like something straight out of BattleTech
Not always a good thing. Notably a boring thing if all the scifi game art is homogenizing. The inefficient ww1 box designs, overly exposed cables and skulls were part of what kept 40k from looking like halo/ME/generic contemporary scifi. I'm interested in what the new hotness is going to be, but for now everything is still unifying towards clean tacticool.

>>53463696
there were dreadnoughts in the legions before the great crusade ever left terra

Any comparisons between Primaris Marines and 30k Marines? I know the FW ones stand up taller.

How about Primaris marines and Terminators?

>>53466441
Nah, it's remidning me a lot of early 80s Nue and ARTMIC designs. Iglesias is a good designer.

>>53463457
I like it, but I'll always love the boxnoughts.

>>53466441
>everything is still unifying towards clean tacticool
I disagree. The scions and taurox were almost too far in the other direction. Marines have always been a little bit more 'modern' than most imperial stuff.

>>53465039

How much bigger are they than Thousand Sons?

Are those guys still old marine scale?

>>53463457
>that fucking pot belly
Into the trash it goes.
(resin) Contemptors look way better.

>>53467372
See
>>53465822

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>>53463620

>>53467372
Thousand Sons are old marine scale, but they stand straighter, so will end up about plague marine height.

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>>53467401
Thank you, anon, that means so much to me!

>>53465039
I'm fucking sick of the
>just edge highlight everything
meme.
What are they even supposed to be? Is this Tron?

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>>53467415

>>53467436
With a couple obvious exceptions of course.

>>53467365
That's a good point about the tonka box, although it still struck me as trying to make a 40K humvee design. So there's still some large box things, just not the face of the franchise. The modernization of numarines I find it looking more like what 2010s futuristic a e s t h e t i c is. Which fits with the idea of marines being more advanced, its just what style thinks advanced looks like is changing.

>>53467441
It's fine, though he could have used a more subtle colour on the Ultramarine.

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>>53467415

>>53467441
It's till the best way to paint power armour I think, but a lot of people (GW included sometimes) make the highlights too thick or too bright, and put them in places where they shouldn't be, like the inside edges of shoulder pads where it meets the trim. It's not an edge - it shouldn't be highlighted

>>53467446
I can't be the only one who thinks James Franco has an utterly punchable face

>>53467659
The best way to paint power armor is to take advantage of the large smooth plates to paint the light's reflection with glazes.

>>53463457

> all these triggered tau players mad af the imperium has better mecha designs

>>53464513
Nigga, that's just a regular dreadnought.

>>53467814
I thought that exact thing. Put a regular dread next to that pic and it'll be identical.

>>53467688
This band did a whole music video about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK5P94toDkI

>>53467740
Alright maybe not the best but certainly the most time efficient and tabletop-effective. Glazes are fucking difficult.

>>53463457
So 40k now oficially action-figure game?

I hope those hand fit regular boxnaughts. They look much more poseable.

>>53463457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCmrp38KjYg

all systems nominal

we want the battletech audience for not just tau

>>53465034
Dere's nevah enuff DAKKA!

>>53469046
Was it ever not? If not what about the new dreadnought makes it so?

>>53463457
The Good:
Hey! They finally did a new Dreadnought without the goofy ass exposed head!
The proportions are pretty nice.

The bad:
Nipple guns are a bit silly.
Belisarius Cawl's new plasma guns make him seem a bit Tauoboo.
>Primaris

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>>53464470

>>53469797
>primaris
I don't think it's primaris, actually. Just a new kind of dreadnought.

Hopefully there are more weapon options, though. Plasma is for fags.

>>53465151
I didn't understand anything in SC as a wee Korean lad who didn't have the korean language setting.

I didn't think any Protoss dialogue was in English because they were so ham and had weird echoey filters on them.

>>53464394
>Put Primaris Marine inside a Centurion
>Put the CEnturion inside a dreadknight

ultimate space marine

>A Dreadnought that can actually walk properly and doesnt have the ratarded head design
My fucking God it actually happened

>>53465151
I still do not know if General Duke's battlecruiser movement quote is "good size of action" or "look at the size of that ship" or what.

>>53470136
decisive action

>>53470136
WHUT!?

I haven't got all day

Should work...

Alright....

MAKE UP YOUR MIND

>>53469844
>I don't think it's primaris
nigga r u serious

>>53464065
Allegedly the Tau will be the first xenos to get a full codex. Near the end of the year. I have no idea how valid of a rumor this is since it comes from a spanish facebook page or something.

A reliable rumor monger says the Tau are definitely getting something that are not directly part of the T'au Empire. If she says it it's going to happen.

So the big question is. When. If the less reliable rumor is right then this year.

Allegedly the Tau Empire is now GW's third best selling faction just behind Space Marines and Astra Militarum.

The Tau are ascending.

>>53467441
it's supossed to look like this so the new customers can achieve similar effect without giving up. Sure, they could paint them with NMM and TMM all over, but people would feel depressed with their wash n' drybrush models.

>>53470687
>Tau are definitely getting something that are not directly part of the T'au Empire.
What the fuck does that even mean?

>>53470728
KRROOOOOOOOOOOOT NIGGUH

>>53470728
Vanished 4th sphere expansion would be my guess. Or maybe a new auxiliary race

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>>53470687
>Allegedly the Tau Empire is now GW's third best selling faction just behind Space Marines and Astra Militarum.

Disgusting. If that's true then there will be no end to the Tau plot armor. Can't wait for Farsight and Shadowsun to singlehandedly conquer planets and take out whole chapters of marines by themselves.

I sure would like some plastic Aspect Warriors, Grotesques, Mandrakes and Incubi someday.

>>53470734
>>53470737
Kroot and the auxiliary races are directly part of the Tau Empire. It's the EMPIRE part.

>>53470728
Auxiliaries my friend.

>>53470687
>and Astra Militarum.
I call bullshit

>>53466441

The The inefficient ww1 box designs, overly exposed cables and skulls designs already exist though, creating new stuff with the same aesthetic is derivative.

>>53463457
Eh, not bad at all, but boxnaughts still = bestnaughts

>>53465039
Are the Primaris models Custodes size? Or are the Custodes bigger?

>>53470955
They are about the same size but Custodes have taller helmets

>>53470687
>Allegedly the Tau Empire is now GW's third best selling faction just behind Space Marines and Astra Militarum.

Of course they are. Teenage WAACfags always buy up whatever side is most OP in any given edition; that's just taken as read.

What's impressive is that despite being basically NPCs for a couple of editions, the 'umble Guardsman is still number 2.

>>53471044
Also don't forget, weebs gonna weeb.

>>53471044
Everyone loves the Guard son.

>>53471074
Tau is the go to faction to male space marine players cry too. So that's a big factor. Nothing more satisfying than tears and salt from marine players as their chapter master gets blown off the face of the universe.

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>>53463457
He a big boy

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leave contemptors to me

>>53463457
kek
it will feel weird when this and old version of it on field

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>>53471133
More big boys

>>53471140
>neverskiplegday.jpg

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>>53471140
>that csmanlet naut in the background
how can the dark gods even compete

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>>53471140
What a horrible mish mash of styles.

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>>53471133
>that plasma cannon

So when is it revealed that Cawl just went to the Tau to get his stuff?

>>53471044
Wouldn't Eldar be at the top then? They've been far more OP than Tau during most of 7th edition, and generally top-tier in almost every edition?

>>53467688
Technically, everyone's face is punchable, some are just more tempting than others. And you're not alone, I too would like to punch him.

>>53471259
Cawl has been around longer than the Tau empire. Maybe they stole it from him?

>>53471133
>looks okay

>>53471140
>looks fucking retarded

Strange. That missile launcher thing on top has to go, though.

>>53465039

I'm disappointed they made the new plague marines the same size as the nu-marines. I guess there's no point in me buying the starter set now.

>>53471146
The Custodian ones are the best so far IMO, I honestly want to get one for my Black Legion and play it as a Leviathan after some Chaos-ification

>>53471140
I like it.

>>53471317
Why would that make it no point in buying the starter set?

>>53471368
>>53471317
Bigger is WORSE

GUH

FUCKING GW

GAWD

>>53471395
after the rubric release, why is this even coming as a surprise to you?

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>>53471228
>Wilfred from the beano
fugg... im dying

>>53470687
>tau are third best selling
I think you meant to say
>riptides are the 3rd best selling

>instead of making the regular dreadnoughts finally playable, let's make new ones instead
every time

>dig a big ass hole
>this thing can't look at its feet
>wait
>...
>profit

>>53471476
It's even got the knobbly knees!

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>>53471613

>>53471591
Who says old dreadnoughts won't be playable?

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>>53471259
>So when is it revealed that Cawl just went to the Tau to get his stuff?
mfw we get a tau/imperial alliance
WEEABOOS OUT

>>53463749
That's what you get for being a pathetic manlet cuck.

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>>53471695
>Tau + SM

Just like in my Vietnamese scriptures!

>>53471304
Looks much better irl looks pretty funky in the release trailer

>Space Marines will still be supported!
>release more and more primaris kits
>scale up dreads
>vanilla marine players will either have to replace their whole collection or be cucked on the table with their manlet minis

This basically guarantees them years and years of income if they port every kit from the SM range into primaris versions

>>53471928
>delicious, sky is falling Marinefag tears

Never in my life could have I even dreamed of such a day... Please don't stop. Never stop.

>>53471958
I play chaos marines, every new kit for basic troops would be an upgrade and the DV snap fit versions are already upscaled, so it does not matter to me. I just think thats a wonderful business move if you sell armies that basically appeal to the whole "we superhumans now" crowd and then use the same superiority complex to give them even bigger kits they won't ignore.

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>>53467395
U wot git?

>>53471144
>never talk to me or my son again

>>53471140
>Drunknought
Imperium needs to lay down the beer intake

>>53471140

That just doesn't look like 40K to me.

>>53471144
You mean like how it's weird to have a Contemptor, Deredeo, Leviathan, Castaferrum, Ironclad and a Venerable dread all in the same army?

Also, this isn't replacing the Castaferrum, this is a whole new variant for the Primarines, like Dreadknight is a variant for the GK.

>>53471140
>>53471133

Huh... it looks kinda sucky from these angles :/

>>53471272
Eldar have shit/old models though and not enough weeb appeal

The Tau line is entirely plastic, or all the OP/good units that matter at least that's a BIG plus factor especially for new players who don't want to fuck with resin or pewter

>>53471044
>>53471565
>>53472342
Have you considered the possibility that some people simply like the tau?

>>53463769
Or they put a dreadnaught into a slightly bigger dreadnaught. For shits and giggles.

>>53472513
>geneseed
>inside a space marine
>inside a dreadnought
>inside a bigger dreadnought

>>53471044
If you were even slightly right the top3 would be MARINES-Eldar-Tzeenchian daemons. But it's ok. T'au will be here forever and your fits of autistic rage will do nothing.

>>53472513
nah man, the caskets aren't permanently stuck in the dreadnought chassis

that's what all those cables on the sides are for

>>53465909
>gets shot in the head
>squadie does cpr
>it works
>oh they joking now.jpg
>wait till one of you gets shot.png
>next guy gets shot in foot
>full arlington for a pinkie toe
>rub aloe on his neck, good to go next day

All fun and games until the medic is the only one who cares enough to hold you together.

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>>53472374
Yes i have, and those people should be shot, then chain bladed so that you die knowing what glorious close combat is. Aidios Y cunted blue bastard. May your days be short in number, and the emporer have no mercy on your evil, heretical, xenos loving soul.

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>>53472706
Sending a 3rd one already?

>>53471259
I mean, the Imperium is where it is right now only because of Necron and Eldar assistance.
Getting some Tau help as well is not all that far-fetched.

>>53472756
Why are they so tsundere for xenos dick?

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>>53472724
If you fish faced fucks had any decent medical staff instead of carving your wounded into sashimi, or whatever the primer says you do, then you would know that you deal with the biggest problems first, then work down. I, case your rinky-dink animu sensors havent told you, the galaxy is hemmoraging warp storms right now, so we are gonna focus on important first. Sorry you are litterally the smallest fish at the bottom of the barrel. Hope it doesnt break whatever your species uses to move blood that we rate you less threatening than the greenskins.

what the hell is going on?
you went from dreadnoughts to xenos, nay, HERETICAL xenos conversation

>>53472770
Maybe we're due for an Order alliance against Chaos just like in Warhammer?

Every faction is supposed to get major plot advancements this edition.

>>53472706
good job guardsmen the commissar is pleased

go get some recaf

>>53472107
>HALT! NEVER CONVERSE WITH ME, NOR MY NOBLE BATTLE BROTHER AGAIN!

>>53472793
>lost Vietnam war
>lost Damocles Crusade
Pottery

>>53472870
>fast forward to the present day: nation is sustained by chinease commie loan money
>post-gathering storm: cawl just recycles tau tech to make marines worth a damn

>>53463457
Human/Eldar/Tau alliance when
Pro-Xenos/Anti-Xenos Imperial Civil War would be dope as fuck

>>53472793
Thinking about it, tau should have a medic unit.
I don't know, a medic-drones assisted alien race or some sort of military ambulance (Angelfish?).
Or a medi-suit because suitsuitsuit.

It's a shame only the imperium (and orks admittedly) got those kind of specialists.
For example, if eldar life is precious, why don't they have an aspect dedicated to life-saving? Dancing around bullets to get their kind to safety, or falling that their soulstone.
Chaos medic diagnostic: not enough demons.

>>53472941
Warlocs have revive power, they can pump wounds back to units.

>>53472941
>Thinking about it, tau should have a medic unit.
tau are averse to wasting their soldiers in combat, but at the same time view them as completely expendable thanks to their short life spans and cult-like view of the greater good

it's a weird dichotomy

>>53470927
Creativity is derivative, that's how time works. The part I'm talking about is a change in distinct styles over time in scifi aesthetics. 40K becoming less anachronistic takes away from its distinguishing features, leaving it with kitchen sink scifi, which there's already a lot of. Its new to people who only 40k, but its a watering down of variety in other perspectives. On the plus side, it encourages more indi/smaller companies to try stuff and hopefully interesting content will come from it.

>>53473001
Considering all the resources that go into training a Fire Caste warrior it's a pretty dumb policy to let them die from treatable wounds.

>>53464065
prepare to see them having a second release after one year, when not even a fourth of the existing armies have been updated, AoS style

>>53473029
A fourth of their entire race is pressed into mandatory service. Shit's a revolving door, and there is always enough new blood to go around.

anyways if you think that's dumb, don't look into what sorts of medical issues the battlesuit pilots have to live with

>>53473001
I see it as a very rationalised thing: they will let people behind if the risk/benefit ratio is under defined parameters, but will see letting die people that could be saved as repugnant.
I can see place for medics in the tau doctrines. More so than in the guards actually, who only got them because of "every war tropes ever" design of the IG.

>>53472951
Do they? I completely forgot about that I admit.

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>>53463457
OUT OF MY WAY DREADNOUGHT FUCKING SHITS

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>>53473260
>Dredlet

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Adorable.

>>53463457

Now Chad the Ironclad and Tony the Veteroni will have proper models!

>>53472374

Some people, sure, but more than Orks? More than chaos (both daemons and marines)? More than eldar?

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>>53470687

So when will Orks get a new codex?

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>>53470687

>Imperial Guard are top 3 best selling armies

Us Based IG players. Is there anything we can't do?

>>53473807
I think the name is ASTRA MILITARUM, kiddo

>>53473828
Guess how many times the name 'Astra Militarum' is used in the faction description on the swanky new Warhammer 40,000 website.

>>53473850
COPING

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>>53470728
Hi

>>53467564
saved

>>53470687
but Tau already have lots of new and up to date models...

gw pls

>>53471146
>>53471341
I just realised that primaris custodes will be a thing.

What would that even look like?

>>53473986
Aren't Custodes already much better than Space Marines though?

Are Chaos Marines going to be sized up too?

>>53471395
i'm sure your girlfriend says that to comfort you.

>>53474067
Exactly, so primaris versions of custodes would be op as fuck.

>>53473724
Yes. More than all those. Tau beachers and strikers have badass armor and helmets. Authentically i am very happy with Tau. I never used a riptide, but i have one.

>>53474151
Aesthetically*

>>53464131
Live fire training exercises

>>53473986

No they won't. Custodes were made by the emperor personally as far as I know. No geneseed.

If Cawl really has figured out how to make them and do it better, he may as well heal the emperor just to rub it in his face.

>>53473313

Chadnought looks cooler and know how to CQC

>>53470955
Same height, though the Custodes' plumes make them taller than Primaris. Primaris look more substantial given the new scale though, Custodes still have wildly oversized pauldrons which can look a little silly when the two are side by side.

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>>53463457
>It looks like something straight out of BattleTech

much as I love battletech, no, the model looks like it was well-sculpted. So it cant possibly be battletech.

(great game. Fucking awful figures. What I'd give for battletech with citadel-quality models.)

>>53471140
It's the legs that really ruin it for me, if it were on either bulkier legs or treads, then I think it'd look pretty good.

>>53463457
>Boxnought
>Not Contemptor
Indedesding
Thanks God I was about to start a Deathwatch army or at least buy some minis for the RPG. Now I'll wait and see what happens with the other codecii.

>>53474071
The Death Guard in the new starter box are the same height as Primaris Marines so it looks like all future Chaos releases will be in the new scale.

>>53474287
Contemptors might not be available for construction by the end of M41. Wasn't that why they made the Cortus variant during the Heresy, because they didn't have the resources for the regular one.

>>53471146
Ouch, not a fan of the blingnaught.

>>53463457
But aren't dreadnaughts supposed to be really old archaotech that can't be replaced or remade?

>>53474554
Welcome in the new bright future of WH40K

>>53474266
S-shockwave?

>>53474554
Turnt out AdMech was just pretending to be retards for 10k years.

>>53470687
>Allegedly the Tau Empire is now GW's third best selling faction

What a terrible reality we live in.

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>>53469869
...put Space Marine inside Primaris Marine?

>>53474599
Eh with the help of these primaris marines squatting regular SM and the god awful story progression we are #1 soon enough.

>>53472870
>vietnam
>lost

You've never been to Vietnam, have you, kid?

>>53474671
The war ended with a North Vietnamese victory in 1975
straight from the wikipedia

>>53473986
No. Custodes don't undergo space marine creation techniques or methods of any kind. They are unique genetic creations with hints at significant application of biomancy to get them to their final state.

Basically a complete metamorphosis vs implantation and augmentation.

>>53474844
The leviathan looks amazing by comparison. Distinctly warhammer, and the design is less tacked-on looking.

The primaris dread looks contrived by a child playing Legos by comparison.

>>53474844
I think all you have to do to make the new Dreadnought look good is make the torso front flatter and more continuous like the old one. Everything else about it is pretty much fine as it is/

>>53475115
So basically a normal dreadnought without retarded limbs?

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>>53475053
You're right, definitely distinctly Warha-

>>53474554
They can, it's just very time consuming and resource intensive. 99 times out of 100 it's easier to salvage a nuked dread and rebuild that than try and make a new one.

>>53475164
-mmer 40k

>>53475167
>99 times out of 100 it's easier to salvage a nuked dread and rebuild that than try and make a new one.

[Citation Needed]

>>53474844

I think the new redemptor looks rather good.

the leviathan is just amazing tho because its forgeworld, compare it to a regular boxnaught and you will see the improvement

>>53475164
Warmachines derived its designs from 40k Artwork. NuGW takes their inspiration from Starcraft.

>>53475053
>The leviathan looks amazing by comparison.

If only it wasn't halfway becoming a knight in size. The size ruins it for me. Seriously, FW, stop it. You've made dreads the size of buildings and knights the size of titans. Anyone bitching about GW making stuff larger but doesn't address FW can get bent.

>>53475140
Boxnought is aesthetic perfection, so yes. Hopefully it won't be terribly difficult to transplant a regular Dread's front onto this new one.

>>53475186
There is none, it's just musing. Nowhere does it say the ability to make dreads has been lost and there's plenty of stuff Marines and the Imperium scouring the world for busted old relics they refurbish and put into use. You don't look for a MkII shoulder pad in some ditch if you can make them with ease. Or if it belonged to someone important. Salvaging space ship hulls, busted tanks, age old, rusted titan corpses, etc. is not unheard of and not something you do when you got resources to make those things for cheaper.

>>53475229
Doesn't seem too hard to just ditch the hull and just attach the leg assembly and arms to a boxnaught. The legs might look too long, tho.

>>53475194
Cool thing, that warjack I posted? Released February of 2015. Leviathan Dreadnought first reveal? Seems to have been a warhammer open day in October of 2015.

And no, I don't actually play warmahordes. The grill on the leviathan just made me think 'that seems familiar' and go hunting on GIS.

>>53474844
How long before the first 30k army fields these as Leviathans?

>>53473917
So, is he gonna fall to chaos?

>>53475332
Old age will get him before that.

>>53475362
How? Doesn't his sword steal youth from his foes?

>>53475246
Dreadnoughts are sometime referred as "relics" which would usually imply something you wouldn't be able to produce on demand. Usually, not in 40k but that may confuse some people.

Well technically, the actual relic should be the guy inside the dread but whatever.

>>53475444
You can have relic power armour, even when you're able to produce new units of that same armour. There are relic weapons and vehicles used by important people, even thought those same vehicles can still be produced.

>>53475482
But that's not grimdark. I can't find that pasta about Mechanicus adn the lack of technolgical base right now, sadly.

>>53475332
> The chaos gods offer Farsight to make him the tau Horus, sensing that there is a possibility tau may become the galaxy next big player.
> "We can't trust the ethereals, only YOU can lead the tau to success! And it's not just about the tau, other races too need to be saved! For the greater good you see?"
> "The only thing is that the tau will start getting psychic..."
> Farsight go on a rant about how eldar and mankind leaders have been fools, blinded by their hubris and the ethereals are just like them...
> "Yes, we can't let the galaxy in their misguided hands, right?"
> ... and that's why Farsight don't want to make the same mistake and refuse the gods offer
> Doing so he's denying the golden path offered to his race that now have to fight their place in the galaxy the hard way
> But also opening the faint possibility of a less "warped" galaxy...
> Heroic death. For the greater good.

>>53475512
Think you mean grimderp. The same shit that says admech can't make shit while new stuff comes out constantly, that plasma guns need a techpriest and hours of work to reload, and volcano cannons are powered by crystallized heretics.

Just because you can make a suit of MkIV armour doesn't mean it's easy of cheap, or that there isn't any point to scavenging any pieces you find in the field. There's a reason why Marine armour is a mixed bag of little bit of everything, even though MkVI and VII are still, along with Rhinos, Land Raiders, etc.

> I can't find that pasta about Mechanicus adn the lack of technolgical base right now, sadly.

I can find the one where it says Admech is all about the science and it's mostly their dogmatic approach and politics that get in the way of progress.

>>53475657
And you find the whole Quest for Knowledge thing in BF Gothic.

As for recovering tech, knocked out tanks were recovered or salvaged all the time during WW2, even T-34s and M4s that could be farted out at amazing speeds.

For a more current example, they are taking B-52s out of boneyards to restore to working condition because it would be too expensive to make new ones.

>>53463457
>Dreadnought's with reasonable proportions

THIS IS HERESY
SOMEONE CALL THE COMMISSAR

>>53475759
>And you find the whole Quest for Knowledge thing in BF Gothic.

If you compare STC tech to non-STC tech (Ragnarok vs. Russ, Macharius vs. Baneblade, etc.), you'll note that STC stuff is way better. So even if Admech can do their own R&D, there's a way better incentive to go out there and look for STCs.

As for salvaging, it tends to be less restoring slightly damaged, but still operational vehicles and more like raising the Bismark from the bottom of the ocean now, restoring it and going to war with it.

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>>53463457
Must. be. more. compact.

>>53474844

Knight-Cerastus, Leviathan, Contemptor, Fellblade, Fire Raptor and Primaris Marines sound like the perfect AESTHETICS astartes army.

>>53463457
>That looks awesome, look at those shoulders, and that torso!
>>53471140
>Beer gut
FFFFFFFFFFFFFF

DAMN YOU FORCED PERSPECTIVE!! DAMN YOU!!

>>53476059
Maybe for Mentors or whoever gets to test out the new toys. That stuff, especially Fire Raptor, doesn't look Gothic enough.

Though Fireraptor is far better looking than any of the 40K flyers and the new Thunderhawk is a great improvement.

>>53476096

Its ancient as fuck, of course it looks better than the shitheaps of the modern Imperium.

I could care less about 'muh gothic aesthetic' though. Less boxy the better, especially on Marines who are extremely rounded yet all their vehicles are hard angles. Bugs the shit out of me.

>>53471140
Christ those tiny legs... seems real top heavy

>>53476118
>I could care less about 'muh gothic aesthetic' though

It's "couldn't", anon.

>>53464624
All the primaris are unable to see their own feet. It's their signature look, like guard tanks which can't move over uneven ground.

>>53476118

People forget that "gothic aesthetic" is about being the opposite of boxy and hardened. Gothic is where you get delicate arches and big stained glass windows full of color and light and a bunch of shit that's intricate as fuck.

>>53476418

Now, with all the flat angles in the Redemptor, would it be possible for a skilled converter to replace those all or some with archway aesthetics reminiscent of gothic architecture, or possibly add in reliefs and embedded doodads to complicate the structure?

>>53476626
Use some of the Sector Imperial terrain bits? Would look bitchin' for DAs.

>>53476418

Yeah, exactly.

Their SHIPS are gothic. Some of the Ordos stuff felt kind of gothic. Perhaps the heaping loads of ugly, gloomy religious iconography feels Gothic. But nothing else about 40k really does. Least of all the vehicles and armor.

>>53476645

I've long had the idea of taking old Rogue Trader models and incorporating them into terrain to make statues. Old Harlequins sitting on plinths amid wraithbone ruins, or a stone space marine standing on a plinth in a town square.

If some of those panels are flat enough, you could embed some choice miniatures into them to create 3D decorations and embossments. Though perhaps given the scale it would be a better idea to do as much on Titans or Knights than Dreadnoughts. I suppose you could use Epic miniatures for the same effect, depicting choice battles on the war machine's armor.

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>>53475512
This one?

>>53471272
True but Eldar get their ass kicked more than Tau. Tau are the defacto plot armor race that can even beat the IoM and especially Space Marines. I like to think some of our popularity is because of how much tears and salt we get from everyone. I mean we're the faction that has most kept the space marine are super gods of death and can never fail circlejerk from happening when their space marine that took decades to train is shot by a gun made in like 10 seconds lol. Whenever we lose a Manta or Tigershark on an attack run to take out a titan I laugh since it will be super long recovery for IoM and like a few weeks tops for us. There is an element of humor to the faction in that way.

Eldar are technically superior on the TT by miles, but that doesn't stop people from hating Tau just for being Tau.

Like I said we're kind of the defacto anti-imperial faction right now. In a weird way the Tau truly have become a good representation of the player base who is fed up with IoM story lore that is insane and Space Marines especially. We are that motley band of players fighting against the rampant fan idiocy of the marines.

The Eldar are more plot centric than us though. I will give them that. Also those Dark Eldar models are super stylish. If you want to feel important and field super powerful armies most people don't give a shit about play Eldar isnce people seem to be more forgiving despite being way more powerful.

If you dislike IoM or love trolling marine players Tau are for you. We may not win the grand fight for the warp, but we're going to kick thre IoM's ass until the end of time.

We're the Stellios Kontos to the IoM's Stan Smith.

>>53463457
JUST LIKE MY JAPANESE ANIME!

>>53471259
Wait till Guilliman folds the Tau into the Imperium as a servant race.

>>53476681
Imperial cities and buildings tend to be gothic as all fuck.

>>53471140
>>53471146
So if redemptor is chadnaught and the leviathan is swolenaught what is custodes dread?

>>53477420
Pauldronaught

>>53477283
>servants

Surely you mean "equals"...

>>53477420
Pimpnaught.

>>53477461
Glorified servants.

Closest thing to equals.

Then after the whole Chaos thing it will be discussed if you become equals...and when the Squats become a playable faction again. Just don't try those sterilization things.

>>53477283
>first and only military defeat of indominus crusade will be against t'au
>t'au annexes ultramar while Bobby G has to defend Terra against armless the harmless

>Guilliman and Co. get caught in the Damocles Gulf for some reason
>Fighting Chaos or Xenos or something when Farsight and Co. show up to the party
>Bizarre team up ends with them noting each other's similar taste in tactics
>Farsight finds out that this is the author of the Codex Astartes
>Guilliman notes the entries Farsight has made for enemies he's less familiar with in the Mirrorcodex
>Gets the author to sign his book

>>53470756
Didn't they wipe out a good portion of the raven guard and white scars? Every battle had them loose 2 suites but kill like 30 marines.

>>53477599
Oh yes. Ha ha ha. I await the tears.

>>53463749
>Buying anything with a new edition around the corner

Deserved

>>53474071
The chosen / marines from the DV starter were already sized up.

>>53470728

4th Sphere of Expansion colonies across the galaxy.

>>53473986

You can't upgrade perfect though..

>>53476146
Classic Boxnaughts avoid that issue by being squat and having a low center of gravity.

>>53479287
And Leviathans and Contemptors avoid it by having meaty fucking legs, which this should also have had.

>>53474737
But youve never been there. You really dont know what its like. They have one of the highest infantile death rates on the planet, and they have more unrecorded cancers than most of europe combined. We defoliated and killed, not only jungle but huge amounts of their farming land, and we hyrt their infrastructure so bad that most of the north is actually worse off than they were back then. We killed a huge amount of their population, and the corruption we tolerated back in the 60s and 70s is even bigger and badder today. They never had a decisive miltary victory, the Vietcong died with Têt and never launched another major operation, and we just got tired of it and left. In fact the american casualty rates were worse in the later years of the war because the NVA got so scared of direct confontation that they mined their own country.

>>53472724
>implying the first two crusades were major

>>53479571
>we just got tired of it and left
>we were just bored of winning so much guys!

Holy shit americans are this delusional?

>>53479571

The Viet Kong won. The US did better in the long run and left Vietnam devastated for generations, but they didn't accomplish their aims and were sent packing.

>>53473260
>>53473260
Christ your font choices just made me shit warp juice

>>53479953
We didnt have aims to begin with. Its the same shit that has dragged gulf 2 electric boogaloo out for years now. Shit happens and we get pissed, so we go in to rock and jock, and dont fucking think about it.

>>53479745
Yeah it was pretty nuch that. We got tired of killing off villages worth of people and bombing them back into the stone age. Our troops were tired of it, our tax payers were tired of funding it, and our young people didnt want to see it. In fact the only people other than lbj and the mccarthyites who liked it were the media because they put it on the news EVERY GODDAMN NIGHT until even they got sick of it. Its like tabling your opponent turn 1, sure you feel like king shit, and you strut around a bit, but its not really playing the game, and if it happens too often you lose interest. Welcome to the vietnam war.

We litterally got tired, defunded the military, and left. No goals, no plan, we went there to kill and we ran up a score that was a hell of a kill count. Believe what you want to, but thats what fucking happened.

>>53480411
I'll leave belief - i.e. certainty of something with no basis in reality - to you. You seem pretty gud at it.

>>53480462
Thats faith dipshit read a dictionary.

>>53480504
Sure, you read a history book first.

>>53479953
They didn't win though we forced them to a signed peace treaty with the south. By that time almost all of our American troops had withdrawn. Then being dirty commies they couldn't help themselves from attacking the south after we had left.

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>>53480411
Pictured: American victory parade on VV (Victory over Vietnam) day.

>>53480643
That was us getting out embassy people out. Man you guys really should read a book. Do you think they steam rolled out military to the heart of south Vietnam? He forced them to a peace treaty on our terms. We left. Then they attacked.

>>53480686
>it's not actually a victory parade
Well shit, you found me out.

>>53480514
I have, several in fact. Have you? Have you read anything at all? Hungriest caterpillar is a great place to start. Hank the cow dog. Ask your mommy if you can use the computer to look those up.

>>53480609
Considering the whole thing started because the US government wouldn't allow elections to take place and reunification to happen because they knew communists would win in the votes, I don't think America has any right to complain.

>>53480791
>americans think 'hungriest caterpillar' is the correct place to start on history

Fair enough. Can someone please tell me that not all Americans are like this? Like, at least some of you weren't raised by a guy who goes by 'Grand Wizard'?

>>53480817
We really dont. Same with Korea. Cold war us sucked a giant cock because we wouldnt act like sane human beings.

>>53480514
Also you might want to reread >>53480411
Because that anon didnt say they won, he said they left, which america did.

>>53480853
>we were just bored of winning so much guys!
>Yeah it was pretty nuch that.

>>53480825
Wow you really dont have reading comprehension. Didnt know english was your third language until now. Have fun growing up in the new sharia europe. Dont get beheaded on bbc: aljazira, i would hate to have to laugh at the news.

>>53480899
>difficulty reading
>aljazira
There is a level of irony here that i'm not entirely surprised the Grand Wizard never taught you.

>>53480885
>and then we left

See there's that last part you keep missing. Until 73 america was winning in kill count/KDR, which was their measure of sucess. Then they left. They didnt win, they choked.

>>53480817
I am not saying it was a total victory and we lost the sense they became a communist nation, but when we had pulled out there was a peace agreement. We thought we'd have south Vietnam as a buffer much like in Korea. The north Vietnamese attacked after we had pulled 99% of our personal out. In fact we had been pulling out since 1969. So we can agree that we thought we had our objective of a buffer zone. We killed over 1.1 million North Vietnamese soilders. That was WW1 level of dead for one nation. Another 2 million civilians and decimated the country side for generations to come. All while losing around 70k soilders. Now we didn't achieve total victory but it is pretty idiotic to say we lost. An example of this is if you played a game of 40k and had beaten your opponent so bad that he wanted to quit. So you pack up and when your army is put away he puts his models on some objectives and says he wins. We may not have had total victory but we sure didn't lose.

>>53480960
Our measure of success was we forced our opponents hand to peace talks. We had the luxury of growing tires of the war. In the end it didn't really matter. We tried to make a buffer zone with south Vietnam. We tried to stop China and U.S.S.R. from gaining more resources and allies. With what we did to Korea and Vietnam you could say we turned them into a hindrance for both nations. Wars haven't been the total war victories of WW1 and WW2 for a long time. At those periods we were playing proxy wars so we wouldn't have to nuke each other.

>>53481225
>okay so yes we ran away with the shit kicked out of us and it was a hideous debacle that left a lasting scar in our national identity
>but that's basically a victory! We just got bored and them dirty gommunists dun tricked us!

>>53481330
We didn't grow board. The civilian population got fed up with the war. Which country are you from? I'd like to compare defeats. How can you play a war game and not understand war? I wouldn't go as far as to say the war left a lasting scar on our nation. Maybe on the communist collective. Deffinently on Vietnam, but not on the US. The only thing it did was shoe us how not to treat veterans when they came home. Honestly though much like today the media had to spin a narrative to sell papers, but unlike to day fact checking wasn't as easy.

>>53481452
>my country is better than your country!
>only communists cared about vietnam!
>our veterans weren't traumatised to the point of suicide, they were just bored and needed fidget spinners!
And, of course
>it was dem liberals in the media trying to trick us!
I need a bingo card or something for this.

>>53481521
Suicidal veterans is a by product of any war my friend. I've know people who only severed and wasn't involved In a conflict commit suicide. Also sure doesn't everyone like their country more than others. I guess if they don't they leave. No one said the liberal media but the media did paint all vets as baby killers. When also that too is a by product of any war. It brings out the worst and sometimes the best in humanity. All I am talking about are wars and battles. So if you think I was gonna bring in anything else you're just projecting. If you actually are a liberal you give us a bad name, but I feel you're just shit posting at this point.