For some reason have his trademark beer-gut in the artwork

>>53433408
>For some reason have his trademark beer-gut in the artwork
That's not a sentence anon. I think Google Translate is better, try that.

>>53433450

English not first language

>>53433408
No guts.
No glory.

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Don't like how bland and sterile nuMarines are. Where's the heraldry and religious artifacts adorning their armour?

>>53433522
Welcome to age of gulliman/not drawn by Adrian Smith

>>53433522
Guilliman isn't into the whole fanatical worship thing, seeing as he actually knew emps

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>>53433522

The armor is brand spanking new and hasn't had time to be decked out yet

Also GW wants to give people a clear and clean look of the new suits before they go crazy with them

>>53433566
>Also GW wants to give people a clear and clean look of the new suits before they go crazy with them
And an issue GW art has had for a while is just illustrating models instead of the world.

>>53433408
did you think this was going to be a funny thread with 400 replies?

>>53433566
>there's a bone hanging between his legs
>it's strategically broken in half in the middle so that there's just the two processes and a short section

What did they mean by this?

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>>53433566

>>53433566

What armor is this specifically? Is this some kind of new Terminator Armor?

>>53434132
it is the same armor as the new assault marines

>>53433522
The artist is not a very good artist.

>>53434171

Weird, I thought the jetpack was connected to the bubble helm

>>53434113
>cocklets
Is this secret marketing to the chinese at work?

>>53434224
>>53434132
No, it's the new Artificer armor, called Grativon iirc

>>53434224
It's a different armor, that anon was wrong.

It's called Gravis armor and is their equivalent of regular Artificer 2+ save armor.

We might get their Terminator suits and heavy/special weapon teams tomorrow.

>>53433566
This looks so gay though.

I don't understand why anyone would think making newbmarines bigger makes any sense. It's a small scale tabletop war game, the proportions will always be not true. It's like you losers think the shoe and the car in monopoly should be bigger and smaller than each other true to size because HURRRRRRRR A CAR IS BIGHET 5JAN A SHOE IN RUULLL LOFFFE

>completely fresh, new Marines
>deployed for the very first time this Crusade
>there are already Ancients
Are these just the cucks destined to always be in the mentor, flag bearer role and never get a promotion?

>>53434284
It matters when model shape and size matters for the game.

By your logic it would be entirely reasonable to bring the small Land Raiders from Apocalypse or whatever its name was and field them as regular Land Raiders because "lol size shouldn't matter in a board game".

>>53434315
it shouldn't tbqh

true line of sight is an abortion

>>53434315
That's different and you know it you little cunt.

Infantry being equivalent in size makes sense.

Vehicles being equivalent in size makes sense.

Jetbikes and bikes are equivalent in size and it makes sense are are landspeeders.

Having things equivalent in size makes sense. You just want your gay little special models.

>>53433686
Where Greyfax on that scale?

>>53434343
It's not different when you compare fucking Monopoly scale to a tabletop wargame, which is a ridiculously retarded comparison.

When the entire fucking game is based around tiny little special models and its whole purpose is built around models being cool to look at, varied and making for good decorations and cool looking tabletops then those models should look the par and not be fucking categorized and castrated to always fit a specific size. If you want to play something with normalized model sizes, go play fucking chess and don't bitch about the things the game's entire concept is built around being a detriment to the game.

>>53434414
About 1 hat taller than current Marines.

>>53434284
>what is every single historical, great war, and world war wargame ever made

Nice post GW.

>>53434450
>the entirety of 40k is based on MUHHSPESSMUHREEEEEEs being slightly bigger than normal infantry because you have a small penis

Yeah okay buddy

>>53434581
Your proposal has nothing to do with fucking Space Marines. Primaris Marines are supposed to be bigger than regular Marines in lore and people have been asking for more appropriate Marine sizes for ages, this is them finally sizing them in a more lore-friendly way.
What you're proposing is that every infantry model, be it an Ork Boy, a Guardsman, a Marine or any of the small Tyranids, should be the same size, which is utterly fucking retarded and impossible to do without destroying every sense of scale the models are supposed to have, as many units simply do not have equivalents in most armies.

Making everything the same size across it's category would fuck over every single army and make everything look like utter dogshit, disregarding the changes it would force upon the rules and how good/bad that would be. If you only play the game for it being a game, you're not only retarded for choosing fucking Warhammer as your choice of wargame, as there are arguably far better balanced ones out there, but are also seeing this from a completely screwed point of view as the game is primarily about the models, not any of the fucking rules.

>>53433521
This, no guts no gory

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>>53433408
>>53433522

from glorious ink/charcoal/water color illustrations full of macabre and baroque character to bland, undetailed and unremarkable digital art that looks little more complete than concept art...

in the heroic light of the far future, there is only optimism.

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>>53433408
B-brother?

>go out of your way to create a new more realistically proportioned space marine
>continue to hire artists that can't draw proportions

>>53434841
Most of the recent art has been incrediably disappointing. But none of it is close to as bad 99% of the CG crap that's been adorning the HH BL series.

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>>53433522
Love the old art, especially from the codexes

>>53435312
agreed. People have consistently been buying these books for over a decade, you think they'd have a budget to splurge on cover-art that's more in line with what they used to do. Would add the level of class the setting should have.


fuck I'd rather have a blank black book only a Roman numeral and the title. If they all had a cohesive look I'd be more inclined to collect them rather than just selling the ones I don't like as much.

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Look how tiny his head and hands are.

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>>53434581
>tfw trying to appear like the rational side but can't hold back my autism and keep spurging out

You know, I love the primarines tacticals, but the hero and the jump assaults look awful

>>53435672
It's almost like GW ran out of ideas beyond "MORE MARINE MORE BIGGER!" yeh?

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>>53433544

>>53433522
Their just kids anon their not old enough for grown up shit

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>>53433521
>>53434835
did someone say...no guts no glory?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sso3h0xMJA

>>53435672
The assaults look weird because they aren't using jump packs, that's OVA gear. They probably drop right out of the ship.

>>53435764
Man, late 80s early 90s cartoons were so awesome

>>53435846
Too many she today, producers can't take the same liberties they used to have.

>>53435764
What the fuck, how have I never heard of this shit? The sickest weird 80s cartoon I grew up on was fucking thundercats, but this shit has it all. Space battles, laser guitars, robot horses, cowboy hats.

It's the complete package!

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>>53434058
His penis is so large it breaks bones.

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>>53433522
Not everyone is spiteful intolerant black templar.

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>>53433408
They're armor is getting AWFULLY close to looking like Dornian Heresy versions....

They're literally Ogryns in Power Armor.

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>>53433566
Alright GW, the numarines look alright. Show me what else you got

>fat man in a space helmet with the ugliest power fist imaginable
>retarded space hoppers with ghetto blasters

>>53433408
So is this terminator armor or artificer armor?

>>53434276
>We might get their Terminator suits and heavy/special weapon teams tomorrow.

I'm going to need some fucking sauce on this, I don't think my bank account is ready for the devastation primaris terminators would bring upon it

>>53436952
>the fanart from shitty fa/tg/uy fan fiction is better than the official stuff

>>53434276
>It's called Gravis armor and is their equivalent of regular Artificer 2+ save armor.

Thank fuck. I like it, don't get me wrong, especially the helmet, but it's no fucking terminator suit, that's for sure.

>>53437338
I seriously doubt they will do termie armor for the primaris. Termie armor is pretty much the opposite of the primaris- ultraspecialized and clumsy.

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>>53435769
They do drop from orbit.
>tfw they finally arrive on the planet but the combay is already finished

>>53433522
Don't they only get the loads and loads of medallions and scripture and holy charms and trophies and shit after decades of service? New guys don't get that to begin with.

>>53433408
i like the beergut armor. the belly is basically the place where you want the most protection.

>>53433408
Meh, they're mini Guiliman.

Nothing wrong with that, but it does make them bland.

>>53439153
The head is where you want the most protection and yet nobody fucking wears helmets

>>53435171
>this
Numarines look like someone wanted to make Marines but avoid copyrights

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>>53434113
what a shining boner he has got there

>>53439362
Fucking Aliens, man, we should kill all Xenos

>>53433522
They were literally offloaded just now. I doubt any chapter is willing to hand over any blessed artifacts to the babies.

>>53433686
So, what does this mean? Are Primaris marines proportionally scaled up versions of regular marines?

>>53439334
the new weapons sound like when 3rd party companies rename 40k shit to avoid the GW legal inquisition.

>>53433544
>not drawn by adrian Smith

So it's garbage by default

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>>53433522

Because everything shown so far has been in the Ultramarines mold which tends towards being relatively clean unless you're part of the command echelon or a veteran.

>>53434299

The Ancients are in all likelihood Marines who were upgraded to Primaris.

>>53434841

Everyone is quick to blame GW without realizing that it may be completely out of their control. I imagine when you're a well enough known artist that you're not lacking for offers that you can actually choose who you want to work for and set a price for how much your work is going to cost.

While Adrian Smith's current asking price could be too rich for GW, it could be the reverse in that he simply doesn't feel like doing work for them or for 40k anymore, even if they're willing to pay him a nice fee.

>>53439712
They should try and find more up up-and-coming artists like Adrian Smith, rather than just people who can trace the miniatures.

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>>53433522
Most oldMarines stuff isn't covered in that shit either.

Not everyone is Black Templars or Dark Angels.

>>53439751

Well it depends on how big the pool is, like I said you could have artists who refuse to do work because it's not their thing or not where they're trying to get at, even if the money is decent. They at least seem to be looking at what is out there since they got the guy who did a lot of the art for the second edition of Malifaux.

The thing with just drawing the models is again something where I think people are automatically assuming the worst of GW when the facts aren't known. It could be GW's fault because they're giving poor or no direction or just accepting whatever, but at the same time the artist could just see it as a job and take the easiest route out and by the time it gets to GW there isn't time for them to make any major changes because they have to get the book together and to the printers.

GW is cracking out a lot of books per year, this is in contrast to FW or possibly even other developers where maybe they'll put out one book or a handful.

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>>53435769
>They are even MORE Mobile Infantry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThrVQKl04Ak

>>53439790
>Raptor
>Operator as fuck

But they aren't boring the fucking Chads, either.

>>53439526
no, their shoulder pads are the same size

>>53440063
Their heads are also the same and their arms and chests don't look far off either.
It's mostly the legs and waists that are bigger.

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>>53435764
Your pic's scene was amazing to me.
When even kids he was trying to help run alongside their bullies away from that freak, and then one trips and a bully helps him stand back up before they resume running.

Goddamn, that slew me.

>>53433686
So Eldars need to be taller, regular marines need to be Deathwatch sized and the Guardsmen could use less goofy proportions but their size is appropriate.

>>53439562
I wonder if that's why they're making all the new bolster varients, so they can throw around their copyright dicks at more bits sellers

>>53440240
Bolter*, god damnit.

>>53440229
Marines should have the size and proportions of Autilon Skorr, Eldar are fine they just need less goofy poses, guardsmen should be the size of Kriegers.

>>53440240
No, they did it because they knew that bolters just don't carry any weight as a primary infantry weapon, but the boltgun statline is too much of a sacred cow to slay.
So they made an alternative.

>>53440290
>but the boltgun statline is too much of a sacred cow
it really ain't, especially in an edition where they're redoing everything from the ground up

That's the main reason all this intermediary dicking around with two styles of marine feels useless to me. I fully understand there are more factors in play here than just the rules, but Marine players would be 100% thrilled to get 2W tacticals with guns that aren't just the straight average. They've been clamouring for it ever since marines lost rapid fire as their unique, faction-specific ability.

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>>53440229
>So Eldars need to be taller,

Yesss.

Pic related should be the standard for Eldar.

>>53433408
There is definitely something wonky with that chest-piece.

I can't quite decide which part of it makes it bad, though. For once it actually looks better on the model than in the art.

>>53439712
>The Ancients are in all likelihood Marines who were upgraded to Primaris.

Ancient is just a title they give to Standard Bearers. It doesn't denote age, just the fact that you are worthy of the honour of carrying a sacred relic.

>>53440558
>The Blame! anime has been released.
Ho-ly shit, did I live under a rock for the past year or what?

>>53441556
It only came out recently.

It's also just one hour and a half movie. It's done super well on Netflix tho, with normies loving it, in part because pewdiepie posted some shit about how he loved the manga and often rereads it. So there's a good chance of a film series.

>>53441609
In addition to this, I agree with that other anon that Eldar should be more like Cibo

Nothing would be better than fielding an entire army of my waifu and equipping them with enough D as possible.

>wraithguard become ciboguard when GW?

>>53439790
>heraldic shield thingy
>skull relic
>scripture on pauldron
Are you using that Raptor as an example?

>>53433566
Holy shit that minis looks pathetic

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>>53441920
It's a pretty good example. Shows that Marines aren't necessarily decked out like that Black Templar.

That said, the best example would be a standard Tac Marine model.

>>53433522
I like the cleaner look of the armour. Having your marines look like they were doused in glue and tossed in the saucepan cupboard is a 13 year old's idea of 'cool'.

>>53442394
I tip you my fedora good sir.

>>53442394
My african-american brutha! Halo armor is the ultimate which every soldier should strive for and I for one am glad that GW are moving away from intolerant religious markings.

>>53443688
>instead of doing your own thing, jump on this bandwagon over a decade old and see how long that contemporary art style lasts

Next they could insert some fresh memes from the early 2000's.

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>>53443288
>>53443688
The problem isn't that it has religious iconography, it's that it has the wrong religious iconography. DEUS VULT.

>>53433521
This.

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>>53442394
They're demigod(or perceived as such) knight monks with centuries of endless battles under their belt. They need some flare. Leave the clean cut tacticool look for the Guard.

Where's that quote from Blanche when he said he imagines marines marching to war like a medieval religious ceremony?

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>>53433686
Primaris memerines are a shitty excuse to legitimize truescale marines, based on the misconception they're 8 feet tall due to a wrong image

>>53446737
The misconception predates that image, as the scale in that image was specifically made to take the piss out of that misconception.

Either way no matter how you slice it the old marine models were very badly proportioned, but something like Deathwatch with a bit more of a waist and meatier thighs would probably have been enough.

>>53446824
I'd put the blame more on big headed cadians than on tiny marines.

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>>53446857
Cadians are also at fault here for comparative scale, but if you look at most old marines ignoring the actual size and just look at how they're proportioned, they look awful.

Pic related I think illustrates well the difference between a fairly well proportioned old marine and the average old marine.

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>>53446950
Potentially misleading image, doubtful.
Look at the base. Perspective makes the greatest difference.
Presented evidence pending validation.

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>>53447010
Okay but really I can tell you from actually owning both of those models in my post that the guy on the right is about a head taller than the guy on the left and has much longer thighs and an actually existent waist.

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And that one butthurt asspie that stalks 40k threads will still bitch that Primaris Marines and Custodes are only 7 feet tall

>>53433566

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>>53447230
Looks more like how a body builders stomach bloats out.

>>53434841
40k art has been bad for a good few years now. Blame the assholes who actually like the shitty CG stuff or the """realistic""" piece of the Dreadnought laying down covering fire.

It's gross that people actually prefer that over the baroque stuff because Warhammer and 40k art used to look like shit that just walked out of a Dore or Durer piece and it was incredible.

>>53447503
Basically you miss Adrian Smith and Karl Kopinski.

>>53447544
Further back than that anon. Ian Miller, for example. And John Blanche who essentially invented the specific design aesthetic of 40k.

>>53447589
>Ian Miller, for example. And John Blanche
If you'd have given Bosch as you're example I think I'd have though of them too.

>>53440277
Eldars are described to be as tall as Marines. Clearly not the case here.
And Custodes are head taller than marines, which is the case here when compared with the Deathwatch member. They don't need to change much.

In addition, Skorr is an Alpha Marine, so taller than most marines.

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>>53447503
>Blame the assholes who actually like the shitty CG stuff or the """realistic""" piece of the Dreadnought laying down covering fire.
Oh fuck me, ukitatamuki's stuff, like that blatantly traced and lifeless pice you mention trigger me to no end. The guy doesn't make bad art, he just doesn't fucking *get* 40k. He makes it sterile, lifeless and devoid out of all that outrageous flair that 40k has.

Just makes me sad to see how GW has degraded in the art department when I remember they had ambitions of becoming their own art house/art style.

>>53447657
Eldar have never been described as tall as Marines. As tall as a human, yes. Possibly looking taller than a human due to their bearing IIRC, but still not as tall as Marines.

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>>53433521
I lol'd

>>53447673
They basically WERE their own style for a long-ass time. Even when you had like, Clint Langley's heavy CGI stuff it was still running off the same design as what had come before.

>>53447657
I thought Alpha marines were shorter?

>>53447370
Presumably geneseed doesn't give you HGH bloat.

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Funny, the guy that does the HH book covers uses CGI models (pic related, one of them) then just draws over them, he claims it's to retain "proportion consistency".

>>53447783
Alpharius is shorter than the other Primarchs, but his marines are taller than most. That helped pull off the "I am Alpharius" trick, since he could realistically pass for one another.
>>53447698
At the very least they are taller than humans. Which Space marines are, they stand 7 ft tall. Either way, it would help the leaner aesthetic.

>>53447896

Pretty sure Marines averaged 8ft

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>>53447589
>Ian Miller
But how am I supposed to know I'm looking at 40k without generic trademarked characters?

>>53447985
7ft is the average, you can have 8ft marines like Abaddon or 6'5'' marines as much as you want but 7ft is their canonical average.

>>53448001

right on time like >>53447230 said

>>53447083
Evidence accepted.
I would have liked it to be regular marines resized rather than "hey guise new space marine space marines, they're also taller because mankind are orks and the bigger they are the higher in command they are. Buy BOTH Primarines and regular manlets."

>>53447673
I'm pretty sure this was the image that got me into 40k. I remember seeing it on my friend's book. Was it the cover for Battle of Maccrage or something? Or the rulebook?

>>53448116
Hell just "Cawl made a bunch of fancy new armour and guns and bobby G is returning the chapters to legion structure" would have worked.
All the new Primaris units have legion equivalents after all.

>>53447673

No one gives the chapter serf enough credit. While everyone else is using power swords, chain swords and bolt guns this motherfucker is fucking up a gaunt with a hammer and some nails.

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>>53447673
He doesn't make poster pieces, if that's what you're talking about. But I'm a realismfag, so I have little problem with most of his pics.

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>>53448117
This one might be my fave (not full size here).

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>>53448174
Nobody ever gives chapter serfs enough credit, anon.
F.

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>>53448117
It's from the 4th ed Space Marine Codex.

>>53448174
Those kind of details are always what I love about old-school 40k art.

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>>53447845
Better than Kopinsky shrunken heads if you ask me. Besides, Neil Roberts makes marines look like fucking knights with those elboys and the gothic art he paints on their battle plate. I'm saving your pic.

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>>53448186
I'm not against realism but I prefer to think of marine art as romanticized propaganda pieces. Like a mural in a Imperial cathedral depicting humanity's glorious last stand.

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>>53448234
>four whole editions have passed since you last played 40k

>>53448186
This is at least tolerable. It looks more like art for a mobile game or something but whatever, there's a sense of motion and importance.

>>53448252
This is not tolerable. Looks like an Avatar Press reject.

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>>53447370
Marines look like big healthy strong men with a bit of gigantism, instad of like some ballon-looking bodybuilders. But the ones in your pic don't look toooooo strange.
Except the one on the left. Looks like he's developing a turtle on his stomach or something.

>>53448252
What is with this artist and having all his marines huddled around like they're the crowd in a concert or something?

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>>53448334

One of his biggest flaws as an artist

Would honestly prefer if the HH books were consolidated and converged into a handful of 1000+ page novels (like the HH opening trilogy for example being turned into a single book) and given more tasteful/classical art like pic related.

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>>53448263
That's the thing. Ukitakumiku doesn't really depicts romantiziced glorious last stands.
He just presents "yet another day in Imperial life" situations.
I mean, some pics are huge melees with mountains of soldiers in melee, everybody either posing, screaming or both, a central figure, proud banners, cherubs and fliers, the glory and carnage of war on a setting where the norm would be a wild dream to the uninitiated, deciding the fate of an entire planet...
And he paints skirmishes.
I'm fine with that. Won't ask pears from the oak tree.

>>53448334
ctrl+c , ctrl +v

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>>53448334
>The books narrate hordes of marines, shoulder to shoulder, sometines in a front 3km wide
>Art like this exists
Gee, I don't know what could have influenced him so.

>>53441609
I know I wonder if Pewdiepie is a normal person behind his persona. I hate him less for liking Blame

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Looks better in the art

>>53433408
>For some reason have his trademark beer-gut in the artwork
Can someone explain what did OP mean by this?

>>53449485
Doesn't fix his baby arms.

>>53448252
Who is fighting who in this pic?

>>53452995
Loyalist Death Guard who escaped Isstvan and made it to Luna to warn the IF of Horus' treachery being attacked by Nurgle demons.

>>53434132
Gravis, Bulkier Artificer armor

>>53433522
Apparently they were kept bland on purpose, so that people could customize them to specific chapters as they saw fit.

>>53433522

Guilliman would probably kill any marine he met who looked like that.

Astartes are the Emperor's *secular* warriors, not barbarians faggot.

>>53436952
I apologize, was tired and said "they're" instead of "their".

>>53439186
True dat.

Im going splits on the DI boxset with a chaos friend/scum, I mostly like the look of the numarines but it fucking annoys me that half the leaders are not wearing helmets (maybe they are just showing off the scuplts?). I better have a choice or I'm going to shit the bed.

Also I'm going to make them Astral Knights because damn it they deserve a 2nd chance.

So what's up with the Primaris marines only having WS/BS 3?

Lore wise, I guess it's because they are all fresh recruits?

Tabletob wise I guess it's a points budget/balance thing seeing as they have extra wounds? I'm assuming they'll eventually have to get veteran squads right?

>>53453740
The rules have been changed, I've only skim read but its 3+, meaning it hits on a 3+

>>53453740
this >>53453778

They're not BS 3. They're BS hitting on 3+

>>53453717
Old heads and shoulders work.

Just pick your favourite head.

Stop painting by numbers. Make them yours.

>>53453826
I want the new helmets is all, their perty.

>>53453800
>>53453778
Ahhh, I haven't played since 5th ed. Was wondering what that was about.

>>53448234

this piece is the catalyst for my interest in this fucking game. So rich in detail, over the top and unique. Not just a shopping list of models to get. Each marine is filled with minute details that you'd have to be creative to recreate.


11 year old me was captivated by this and I had to know more about what could only be an excessively dark and weird setting.

Nu-art I doubt would've caught my interest.

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>>53453826
>tfw you were making ChadMarines before they were a thing.

Chaost Fantasy Knights was a blessing.

>>53447994
Wow, that's actually nightmarish and conveys the true horror that is Chaos. More pls.

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Does anybody have that one reaction image of a live action imperial guardsman looking silly that's constantly edited? Thanks.

>>53433522
This initial wave is intentionally generic so they can sell them to Marine players of as many different chapters as possible.

>>53453928
warriors not knights

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>>53447673
And then there is this art which is one of best in decade, Ultras get best depictions.

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>>53433408
>beer-gut
If he turns to Chaos, I can see him buddying up to Eidolon the Fatass pretty quickly.

>>53439577
On the upside, it means that not every human in the art will have a raging Neanderthal brow.

Don't get me wrong, I like Adrian's work, but he does have a tendency to give characters very "blunt" faces.

>>53439712
I think the most likely explanation for the decline in art quality/style is that GW moved from a monthly to a weekly release schedule in the lead-up to 7th edition. Since that meant a higher demand for internal illustrations, they had to get freelancers (who often aren't very familiar with 40K) to shoulder a lot of the burden.

They've had some new stuff done by Karl Kopinski, Paul Dainton, etc. in the last year or so though, along with stuff by some newer artists who seem to understand the setting a bit more (a clear sign of artists not knowing the material is a tendency to blatantly copy the models, which isn't quite as rife now as it was 2-3 years ago). It makes me suspect that they've noticed the quality drop and tried to fix it.

>>53440882
Correct. "Ancient" is an outmoded term for a standard bearer, regardless of age.

>>53454105
Makes me hopeful that the art might be moving away from blatant model-copying again. The non-character UMs and CSMs are clearly inspired by their models, but without being effortless trace-jobs.

I get that model-copying is something that tends to be done by artists who don't know the material too well, but there's a point where it just makes you wonder why they don't just save money by Photoshopping photos of the models.

>>53453928
I've been considering doing the same just for the cloaks and helmets. They look like they'd make for great swaps on my CSM.

>>53454105
There's lore to be written here.
A sudden force of new elite marines to shore up existing chapters. Arriving freshly trained and equipped from mars. Great armor, great weapons, masterful training. But little experience in the chapter they must now join.

QUICK GET MY SCRIBES!
time to write a war novel...

>>53447673
>he just doesn't fucking *get* it

You honestly sound enough of a girl for me to believe there are women posting here

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>>53454164
I know the artist who did the pic you quoted, he's actually relaly fucking good and it's nice that he's getting a lot of work from GW now. Savier is a cool dude who understands that space marines are supposed to be bulky, and power armor is HUEG.

The reason why Savier's space marines have a tiny head and tiny arms is because they're a semi human proportioned seven six foot tall dude in a giant suit of armor that boosts their height and makes their arms look stunty.

>>53439186

Would rather die instantly and painlessly from a headshot that die an agonizing death from a gutshot.

>>53455227
Also a further note, he draws them with tiny heads because he assumes the head isn't increased in size by the augmentations.

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>>53455257
Why wouldn't their head increase in size with the rest of their body?

>>53448186
>two (three?) spare magazines on chest
>can't reload because lost arm

>>53455358
Human heads don't grow very much, especially compared to the rest of out bodies.
That applies to Marines just as much as the rest of us.

>>53448194
Rules for the church on treads when?

>>53455227
This is pretty good art and I wish there was more like it. The problem is that most people don't understand proportions or the fact that SM shoulderpads are so large because meant to be literally shields that marines use to deflect incoming fire.

>>53446950
where is the model on the left from? I can't find it on the forge world store.

>>53455658
It was an event only miniature, a shame because I think it's one of the best marine miniatures ever made.

>>53453947
Pretty sure that is by Stephen Tappin, not Ian Miller. You might also like Wil Rees & Tony Hough.

>>53453717

They're carrying their helmets maglocked to their belts, go check out the sculpts again.

>>53449485
>pastel, candy plague marines
No

>>53447845
>>53448252

i love neil's art because he manages to surpass Alex Ross sometimes

and i say this as someone who loved Kingdom come and fucken Earth X art

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This guy is either hit or miss

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Step aside, plebs.....

>>53456903
Dead chapter

>>53453541
Are all the DG in that pic loyalist?

>>53455227
I know we have Dante but there should be more armor that has the statue as armor look about it.

>>53457035
Well, yeah, but Garro surely didn't have that many marines left under his command at that point.

>>53457085
Yeah thats what I thought. Plus the dude on the left looks like hes taking shots at the crowd. Plus I thought the whole bedazzled armor and livery thing didnt sit well with the DG.

>>53457100
I mean right.

>>53436516
Is there a full version?

>>53456903
Gary Busey?

>>53456903
is that based on prezzy-T?
shouldn't he be crying into his twitter because a scribes are mean and chapter masterin's 'ard?

>>53457100
Well with death guard the no fancy stuff had reasoning, they had a royal-like command structure, where if the leader died they knew who was to replace them, right down to the very freshest recruit. There was no "this guy is the sergeant" symbols because at the end of the battle the squad may have had a new sergeant 3 times over.

At this point in the heresy Garro's chapter has completely distanced themselves from the death guard, and could have put forth efforts to change up the command structure so that leaders were more prominent and more able to manage their units, which would make sense considering how much more important each marines life is during the heresy times.

Although the issue is there was very little time for the marines to play dress up considering their ship was attacked by nurgle who resurrected all the fallen on the ship as plague marine zombies to keep them busy on the way to Terra.

>>53434028
He's halfway there.

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>>53457199
http://imgur.com/a/5lMU9

>>53456903
>Almost offed completely
>Don't get the chance to redeem themselves in a last battle
>Saved by Guilliman
>Saved by Kapanda
You know, if I were a BA fan I'd kill myself to be honest with you

>>53457297

You're the kind of person that actually believes in the Russia narrative, lol.

>>53457458
nah, well somewhat. Like tzzench's ugly mug it's more complicated than that.

Russia's been doing alpha legion style shit for years. Giving money and training to far right groups in the US and Europe. So when Prezzy-T scooped up people from the far right. Their russian connections came with them, and it's been blowing up in his face.

baby tzzench somewhere in the 21st century: "Mehehehehe jus as pwanned"

>>53457458
>kind of person that actually believes in the intelligence consensus from multiple nations, lol

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>>53457400
Excellent.

>>53447503
>Blame the assholes who actually like the shitty CG stuff or the """realistic""" piece of the Dreadnought laying down covering fire.

I prefer the 1988 art of Wil Rees, Ian Miller, and Blanche, but even I liked that Dreadnought covering fire piece.

That being said, I'll concede that 99% of the new Devian-Tart stuff is shit. Magic the Gathering is going through the same problems atm.

>>53455496
Human rib cages don't fuse into interlocking plates of bulletproof ceramics either. The "tiny head is ok because human proportions" argument is hot trash and makes space marines look utterly retarded.

>>53433566

Is this a librarian?

>>53448272
>Buy 3rd ed starter in dying days of M2
>Still have yet to play

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>>53459233

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>>53459454

>>53433408
If I were to paint this handicapped thing as a dark angel, what would the color scheme be?

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>>53459586
Look at official.

>>53459607
Oh fucking hell... i'm not fond of that color scheme.

But thanks for sharing this with me anon.

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>>53459560

>>53459607
Those aren't Dark Angels, it says so right in the text. It's for a successor chapter, looks like Angels of Vengeance.

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>>53459715

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>>53459937
Mikail's take on Space Marines putting armor on.

Primaris are the same size as SM in the fluff, right? Because if they are the height marines are supposed to be on table, and are taller in fluff, they are actually out of scale.

>>53460477
They said thy are bigger and stronger in universe.

>>53459607
>>53459822
This is what I can make out

>Ultramarin(e/u)s - from the Ultima Founding. The - follow similar patterns of marking and heraldry of the Ultramarines themselves

>The Knights of Vengeance are an Ultima Founding successor of the Dark Angels, and follow a variation of the Chapter's heraldic conventions.

>The Storm Keepers/Reapers were created during the Ultima Founding. They are successors to the White Scars and maintain their primogenators methods of marking and heraldry

>>53459607
>>53461495
The Ultramarines successors look like they are named Fulminators which is weird since that is an AoS unit.

>>53435764

I have seen this sequence so many times, and I still don't know what the hell it's from. Somebody help a brother out.

>>53461495
Why not the 28th Founding GW? Is Ultima easier to copyright?

>>53436532

That's right, some of us are just cock sucking Romaboos.

>>53462373
27th*

>>53457611
That's even more suspicious.

>>53462345
Plastic Nee-san, if I'm not mistaken

>>53434113
his boner

>>53454105
Fuck, that power sword marine in the left looks like a younger version of my dad. Wierd as fuck.

>>53464360
I wish my dad had a bionic eye.

>>53457400
>eldar waifu
>giant cow tits

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>>53465375
Eldar are not flat chested.

>>53434337
I mean yes, ideally things shoulde be based on Base size with height abstracted from the base like in Warmahordes, though for vehicles I may make an exception. Still size should stay consistent between those for scale feelings that seem at least close to natural.

>>53458682
yeah, but fluff tells you that that's what happens. Fluff doesn't tell you that their skull doubles in size.

Don't be so autistic

>>53453954
You mean "Excuse me?" ...I. Do you really not realize where that's from? That's from RLM's Star Trek First contact review.

You literally posted RLM.

>>53433566
i really like the stomach piece seem like it can take some punishment unlike the old one but it probably restrict alot of waist movement

>>53460477
they probably slightly bigger

>>53455526

It's called a Leviathan. Look it up.

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>>53447503
>>53458370
>>53447673

What is this "Dreadnought covering fire" piece?

>>53472187
It's a well done photoshop/paintover of a real ruined city with some real brown people with aks running away. Some guy added a dreadnought and some marines to it while changing the rebel guys to eldar. Did all that work but still left the eldar with banana clipazines hanging out their catapults.

>>53434113
>are you an archeologist, magos?
>because I have a large bone for you to examine.

>>53472255
But shuriken weapons do have banana clipazines.

>>53460095
Kek, whatta cute headlet

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>>53472187
it's a fun bit of art

I dig it, but then again I think the variety's what I like best about 40k's official art.

>>53454105
Very well painted 'n all but the winged face plates on the Ultras is one of the worst design decisions GW ever made. Looks absolutely terrible.

Too bad Nustartes are shit on the tabletop

>>53472357

Agreed, it looks like shit and it's even worse in 28mm.

>>53433408
>beer gut

He looks bulky and swole my dude, old marines had weirdly skinny bodies on some models.

>>53456903
His head is about the same size as Gabriel Angelos'. They must be related.

>>53472328
I don't really get the hate for this, it still looks pretty gritty and interesting. The newest 40k art all looks incredibly clean and cartoony, I really don't like it.

>>53433522

I just love this pic.

>>53472328
More importantly, is that supposed to be an Iron Hands dreadnought? Why is it yellow/bone colored?

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>>53448272
>tfw you started playing 40k at the literal exact moment it started turning to shit

>>53480507
He could be from a successor chapter and just on loan.