EDH/Commander General Missed trigger edition. >Commande

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>What's the worst card you've ever seriously put in a deck?
pic related, fucking awful but wins the game with Repercussion in play

Here is my Xmage Kagemaro build for the anon who requested him
https://pastebin.com/qQmKnzCr
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>>53374206
feels bad man

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>>53374206
>What's the worst card you've ever seriously put in a deck?
I have no idea why I bought this card
started playing 2 years ago (jumped right into edh) and thought this was bonkers

>>53374353
The art is pretty nice though.

>>53374206
>What's the worst card you've ever seriously put in a deck?
I played a few games against kids who thought EDH was a variant of Standard, so their decks were Standard legal. Just crammed full of godawful draft chaff.

>>53374239
>https://pastebin.com/qQmKnzCr
really interesting thanks for posting

>>53374353
It's interesting for a Macar deck, or any other Inspired cards; gives you an free, safe, reliable way to get your dudes tapped.

I feel like it could have comfortably cost 2 fucking mana though.

>>53374353
i put one of these in my dedicated oona mill deck so that all the faeries she poops out can be mill dorks too.

>>53374369
the foil is only a buck :3

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>>53374379
>>I feel like it could have comfortably cost 2 fucking mana though.
Dude it's Kamigawa

>>53374370
Draft chaff EDH sounds kinda fun though

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>>53374379
>I feel like it could have comfortably cost 2 fucking mana though.
yeah for sure
>>53374489
>Draft chaff EDH sounds kinda fun though
AVOID IT LIKE THE PLAGUE
its REAALAAAAALY slow and the color identities never really shine

>>53374489
It's the kind of thing that starts out seeming like an interesting challenge, and just ends up being boring very quickly.

>>53374501
To be fair, Phenax requires the creatures to not be summoning sick, whereas the Koto lets you tap a creature the moment it hits the field.

If you had to build Block Constructed EDH, what block would you pick from?

>>53374544
Alara.

>>53374544
Theros
Enchantments are too fun. Anyone who says Urza's is a fag.

>>53374544
Alara or Khans. I'm a sucker for good mana and 3 colors. Khans is probably empirically better, but Alara has a lot of nostalgia value for me.

>>53374544
Kamigawa

>>53374544
Ravnica

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>>53374544
HOMELANDS

not even technically part of the ice age block any more

>>53374544
Scars. I bet it would be a blast.

>>53374544
Khans has by far the most fun commanders and it also has a lot of staples and generally good cards
Alara is close second for basically the same reasons
Mirrodin is also pretty good

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>>53374883
Addendum: What commander would you most likely be playing from that block?

>>53374908
>Kamigawa
Skyfire Kirin probably

>>53374908
Alara-non here.

Kresh or Thrax.

>>53374908
Clearly Skittles or Thrun.

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>>53374908
The only multicolored commander from the set

>>53374908
Ya boi Ravnica, going with either Tolsimir Wolfblood or Teysa, Orzhov Scion.

>>53374973
Remember when this, Memnarch, Bosh, Thelon, and Rhys 1.0 were technically not legal as Commanders?

>>53375008
>Team Skull Theme intensifies

>>53374908
Hisoka, Minamo Sensei
I'm also playing Gifts Ungiven, Sensei Top and Jitte

>>53374908
>Khans
Atarka, World Render
>Alara
Thraximundar
>Mirrodin
Sheoldred

>>53375028
yeah, that was a bummer. my first edh deck would've been bosh, but because he couldn't be used i ended up making sharuum and going down a dark path.

So why 100 cards and not 50 cards?

>>53375106
Why 50 and not 100?

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>>53375037
>it's ya girl Teysa

>>53375106
Because Highlander is 100 card singleton.
>but why was Highlander 100 cards and not 50 cards
Because some anonymous MtG table wanted to have 100 card decks.

>>53375106
Because Tiny Leaders is shit and you should kill yourself.

>>53375106
i always figured it was to make games less consistent overall so that you can play the same deck with varied results over and over again.

>>53375053
OG Mirrodin ya dunce

>>53374206
>What's the worst card you've ever seriously put in a deck?

Wood Elemental, in Gitrog with Titania in the 99. I've yet to build Titania on her own but I might drop ol' Woody in her as well.

>>53374353
I was considering Koto in my Brood Tyrant until the zombie version that's a million mana cheaper came out in Amonkhet. The art's good enough that I might still consider it in Macar or Oona, I kind of allow myself a slot or two for jank in EDH, as long as it still does something to help me and play well with my strategy.

>>53374908
>theros
Brimaz or Anax and Cymede most likely

Post group hug staples

>>53375154
I think that was the original idea with Highlander, yeah. 100 card singleton intended to make games less consistent so games were more varied. EDH was just a variant of Highlander, so it started from that point.

>>53375124
Speaking of Teysa, im cutting a single high cmc card from my traditional Teysa, Orzhov Scion deck and need to replace it. Out of these cards which seems the best?
Mikaeus the Unhallowed
Day of Judgement
Martial Coup
Vampiric Tutor
Idylic Tutor
Reanimate

Which are the best and which are the worst?

>>53375200
>RitesofFlourishing.png

>>53375229
vamp tutor if you're a combo build, martial coup if you're a token build

>>53375229
Oh, best to put -in-. I thought that was what you were looking at cutting.

Going in blind, probably Dirty Mike or Vampiric Tutor. Day of Judgement is a bad Wrath, so I'm assuming you already have Wrath and Damnation, which means it's probably overkill. Coup is an interesting option, since you can use it to clear the board and have a ready suite of dudes to feed to Teysa. Idyllic could be useful or bad depending on how many enchantments you have, and Vampiric can find anything that can find. Reanimate is okay.

So, yeah. Without seeing a list, I'd say Dirty Mike or Vampiric Tutor.

>>53375160
I meant Scars, sorry

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>>53374608
>Theros
>Enchantments

>>53374908
>>53374544
it would be extreamly easy to turn my mana mastery deck into alara blck.dek

>>53375200
Tooth and Nail
wait, you thought I was giving you all those lands just for fun?

>>53374908
Lorwyn

Wydwen

>>53374544
>>53374908
Can I be cheeky and pick "Early Expansions"? It's a 'block' according to Gatherer and we all know I'd be gimping myself. Would probably rock an old-timer either on vanilla or trinket-text abilities from Legends or Autumn Willow Voltron. Maybe Adun Oakenshield or Angus MacKenzie could work? I'd have to actually investigate my support and get inspired.

If not, either Tempest/Rath Cycle (Greven Voltron? Selenia?) or Time Spiral (Jhoira, Ith, Kaervek, Radha, Saffi, Thelon, or Endrek... so many choices I haven't researched). While those two fight for the top slot, Ice Age is the clear bronze medalist: It's got a ton of fun cards and some neat themes (I for one LIKE snow), but it has crap for commander selection. Lord T. and the flying purple hippo are nice, I guess? I'd want to play Heidar but he needed another color to be a viable commander.

>>53375320
My brother of African descent

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>>53374206
This card in my Thelon Fungus tribal deck.

>>53375282
constellation was a good idea, they just played it too safe for the most part

>>53375229
what enchantments are you running? Possibly cut Idyllic if you don't have any real zingers

>>53375229
>>53375423
fuck, i thought you meant big teysa nvm

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>>53374206
>worst card
Ivory Tower in my otherwise optimized Karlov. The FtV foil is just so pretty.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hapatra2-1/

I've almost finished my hapatra deck. I would appreciate help with cutting the last couple of cards needed.

>>53375466
ivory tower is particularly good with necropotence

>>53375466
It's actually pretty good in Kuphrix, basically a 1 mana Venser's Journal

>>53375406
most of theros block was too safe.

Monstrous for the most part is a mechanic that matters in limited.

Bestow was a very expensive answer to the 2-1 aura problem.

Constellation was in a similar spot, tend to be overcosted, with minor benefits from enchantment etbs

What's the best Naya Commander? I'd really like a Naya deck, but I'm not sure which way to go.

Samut: Looks like Voltron (and can win that way too) but more like "Surprise motherfucker, infinite combat steps!"
Gahiji: Like above but minus Voltron.
Marath: Infinite combos
Mayael: Waifu Commander

What are your best Naya Commander funtimes?

>>53375498
Except it misses the point where Journal does something else.

Cards that do nothing but gain life are bad.

>>53375532
With Kruphix the other ability of the Journal is redundant

>>53375560
So you play a shitty version of the half of Venser's Journal nobody plays Journal for, instead of just putting in an actually useful card?

K.

>>53375528
johan exert

new mechanics are fun

>>53375580
if you're playing a card to have no max hand size why not just play spellbook?

kruphix already says you have no maximum hand size

>>53375638
Just play Thought Vessel.

>>53375528
Sidar Kondo+Tana the Bloodsower.

>>53375250
>>53375263
Yeah I already have Damnation and Wrath of God and Austere Command so it may be overkill. I guess Martial Coup would work better then Day if I want a Board Whipe as it also leaves behind Tokens for me so ill rate that higher on the list. Mikaeus is sweet although a lot of creatures in a Teysa deck end up being human so they dont get Undying, I actually own a copy of him tho. Idylic Tutor grabs Darkest Hour which is essential to the combo or Grave Pact if you need to control the board even Necropotence if you need cards. Vampiric I dont actually own and its kinda pricy but its the best as its any card I need.

>>53375638
You're missing my point.

I wouldn't put Spellbook into a Kruphix deck because Spellbook is a shitty card, and because Kruphix already covers it. I -might- put Venser's Journal into a deck because it does something more than Spellbook, but it's probably be a lifegain focused deck, where it's doing two things.

I would not put Ivory Tower into a Kruphix deck because it's a bad card.

>>53375504
>Kalemne's namesake creature has a Monstrous ability
>it costs 7 fucking mana
I'm still sad Eidolon of Blossoms was green. Heroic was fun though.

R8 and h8 my shitty budget "steal your commander" Memnarch deck I threw together

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/budget-memnarch-combo/

>>53375655
From what you've said, Vampiric is probably your best option. It can find your combo pieces, as well as finding you a Wrath or another answer if you desperately need one (though honestly, I like Demonic more than Vampiric as a one-off tutor since it gives you the option of casting what you find immediately)

If you don't already have Demonic in there, go with Demonic, since it's "better" in some ways, and monetarily cheaper. If you already have Demonic, I'd say put in Coup.

>>53375663
I had a crappy Constellation deck that used shit like Nyx Fleece Ram, Eidolon of Blossoms, and Doomwake Giant. It was kinda decent, but I had always wished we got more Constellation stuff.

>>53375580
People actually pay 5 for "No maximum hand size" now? An effect that can come stapled on a land, a 0-mana spellbook, or a discard-nerfing Library of Leng?

I don't think so. If you play journal, you play it for the life every turn. Ivory tower earns you less, but it also comes out as a 1-drop. There's a reason it was a control staple in early magic. It's showing some pretty nasty signs of age but

>>53375532
>Cards that do nothing but gain life are bad.

Is rather dated as truisms go. The only reason it holds up better in EDH is that higher-level metas tend to not attack your life total linearly. And as metas go there's plenty of space between ones that are combo out or gtfo and pure crawwurm.dec

>>53375658
i don't know man, i'm not the guy who put ivory tower in kruphix, i just thought you missed that he already said "no max hand size"

>>53375695
Skybind and Doomwake Giant are the two cards that make B/W Daxos control possible

>>53375663
I forgot about Kalmne's captain

>3(W)(W) for a 5/5 vigilant
>5(W)(W) exile all artifacts/enchantments

WHY.

For 7 mana it should have been asymmetrical

>>53375734
we cant let boros be a strong color its not blue enough

>>53375696
If you play Journal, you're playing it for the lifegain coupled with the Spellbook effect- and even then, that's not a lot of decks. It's probably not a great option. Ivory Tower is literally only lifegain, and cards that do nothing but gain you life tend to not be worth their slots. It was a control staple in early Magic because creatures were a lot shittier. You might as well argue that Serra Angel is still an amazing beatstick in Commander just because it was the go-to finisher for The Deck. 1993 Magic and 2017 Commander are wholly different animals.

>>53375727
i wish blaxos was better. he's a cool card, but he's so slow that my meta would just eat him alive before he could do anything relevant.

>>53375696
>Dated as truisms go
In -standard-, most pros agree that a 1 mana spell that does nothing but gain you life would need to gain you about 13 life to be worth considering. All lifegain does is make you die slightly later.

>>53375734
or make it a cheap flasher in exchange for that horrendous cost

meanwhile Ezuri & Meren get XP counters out the ass every turn for just playing a goddamn From Beyond/Awakening Zone

>>53375762
i built a dedicated stasis edh deck. serra angel was pretty good in that :^)

>>53375768
you have to lock out artifice right away or you'll get murdered

>>53375727
After having multiple people rite of replication doomwake giant.

I have stopped running it.

>>53375789
Meren, at the very least, really needed to say 'nontoken'.

>>53375831
i'm fortunate (unfortunate?) enough to not have any blue at all in my playgroup, so it's an arms race between the stax decks trying to get a lock and the green decks trying to shit out kozilek with haste

>>53375831
>Kicked Rite on your Doomwake Giant
>All your creatures get -25/-25
WEW LADS

>>53375762
>Serra Angel is still an amazing beatstick
shes still surprisingly efficient
the myriad version is insane in stax decks
yeah sure Archangel Avacyn and Herald of the Host are strictly better but the idea of a 5 mana 4/4 flying vig beater isnt super shitty

>>53375831
Eh, if it was kicked then they just payed 9 mana for a board wipe. Your colors are better at doing that and I imagine they wouldn't get as much value from it in the long run compared to you.

>tfw you resolve Replenish with Doomwake and 7 other enchantments in the GY

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>>53375876
>Kicked Rite
You rang?

>>53375878
>The myriad version is insane in stax decks
To be fair, a stax deck could beat all three opponents to death with Squire once the lock is out.

And if your argument is "That card is still great, because this version that does triple the damage each combat is playable in a very specificly narrow archetype", your argument is flawed. Yes, Serra is still efficient as a 4/4 vigilant flier for 5. The problem is, that's just outclassed by better things nowadays. Like Ivory Tower.

>>53375689
I guess ill need to take a good look at my list. Atm its a toss up between Mikaeus, Vamp, and Coup.
I personally dont run Demonic Tutor for religous reasons.

>>53375789
>Ezuri & Meren exp counters.


Don't get me started. It baffles me how out of balance the exp counter commanders are.


Meren literally shits out massive amount of value from something as fucking simple as sakurai tribe elder. while Daxos/Kalmne have to pay massive amounts of mana to gain benefit.

>>53375883
A boardwipe that leaves them with 5 6/6 creatures still capable of acting as boardwipe

>>53375883
Well, a board wipe that left them with 20 power on board.

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>>53375916
>I personally dont run Demonic Tutor for religous reasons.

>>53375911
>Like Ivory Tower.
whats going to get your life back as quickly as ivory tower when you pay life to draw cards?

>>53375920
everyone i've seen with a kalemne deck completely ignores the experience counters altogether and just uses her as a 4 mana double striker to hold swords and things

>>53375778
And yet Soul Sisters and ProclaMartyr have been things in standard and continue to exist in various forms in modern -- because while the key cards do basically nothing but gain life, often fairly little at a time, they gain obscene amounts of life if allowed to run. Tower (and journal) work the same way, they're not one-and-done Sacred Nectar bullshit. Journal is stronger, but Tower comes online either earlier or alongside other plays/counter mana up. Either one or both are viable in corner-case EDH decks.

>>53375911
>To be fair, a stax deck could beat all three opponents to death with Squire once the lock is out.
you would be surprised how often drawing a forest and casting nature's claim can get you out of a jam like that

>>53375943
I just refuse to run the card. I know its powerful but I have other powerful cards like Yawg Will and Necro so its not too much of a loss. Id run Imperial Seal if i had the cash.

>>53375949
Why do you need to get your life back? Why not just win?

Or why not gain life via cards that do other things, too?

>>53375969
Soul Sisters also uses that lifegain for something (usually Serra Ascendant), and it's not exactly a good deck.

I have a lifegain deck, and none of the cards in there are "just lifegain". I wouldn't put Ivory Tower in that deck even if I began every one of my turns with 10 cards in hand.

>>53376001
to be fair this all started because of the thread question being "what is the worst card you've put in a deck"

i think everyone knows it's not the absolute best option compared to other cards

>>53376001
>Why do you need to get your life back?
because sometimes drawing 15 cards with necropotence doesnt just outright win you the game and sometimes people hit you with creatures between the time you draw the cards and you win, especially if you are using something like adnaus
were not talking about tier one decks or anything here, just normal edh decks

>>53375911
>To be fair, a stax deck could beat all three opponents to death with Squire once the lock is out.
Depends on the lock, Squire isn't vigilant so if it's a tapdown lock it might be out of luck, and even in Stax rounding out the game before anything shockingly untoward occurs has its value.

(not arguing the main point, just being a nitpicking little shit.)

>>53376037
And what if you have Tower with no Necro?

You're constructing a situation where it could arguably be useful to defend including it in a deck. In literally every other situation it's worthless.

>>53376023
>I wouldn't put Ivory Tower in that deck even if I began every one of my turns with 10 cards in hand.
>He wouldn't take 6 life every turn for 1 mana

Yeah, either that's a heck of a hyperbole or you're undervaluing life in mid-tier metas.

>>53375951
Ingot Chewer + Sword of Light and Shadow is breddy gud

Flamerush Rider is the only other card I'm aware of that would facilitate quick, repeatable XP

>>53376041
>even in Stax rounding out the game before anything shockingly untoward occurs has its value.
this if people actually bothered to sit around and play out stax games they would know that
personally I love long grindy stax games but my first game of magic was my oloro precon deck against 3 turn 5 combo decks which kept me alive long enough for the guy playing niv miz to show off killing me with a jtms ult
>>53376067
>what if you have tower and no necro
well if you are playing suicide black like I suggested you are going to be paying life for a lot of spells and its 1 freaking mana I've had a lot of success with it in casual decks like phage

>>53375951
Which is probably the most viable way to run her.

Which is a shame as I think exp counters are a great mechanic

>>53374239
I may actually put this into my Daretti deck, thanks!

>>53376096
Oh boy, gaining 6 life a turn is surely going to stop me from losing to mill, infinite damage, Skittles, or Commander Damage

>>53376113
to be fair the counter mechanic is not to be blamed here its wizards being afraid to give boros something playable
yet again

>>53376113
I feel like the two biggest sins they made were not making non-Commanders that interact with it (either cards that give you Experience counters themselves, or cards that have additional effects if you have a certain threshold of counters/scale with your counters), and how imbalanced they were. If all 5 of them were roughly even, instead of Meren being fucking stupid and Daxos being trash, for example, it would have been a lot better.

Kinda like how I like Partner as a CONCEPT, but I dislike it in EXECUTION because it was the textbook definition of "Fuck it, close enough" as a 'solution' to 4 Color Commanders.

>>53376098
>they didn't include either of these creatures in the precon

fuck you wotc

>>53376158
>not making non-Commanders that interact with it

Proliferate.

>>53376134
So it's the latter, got it.

Play against Oloro at 75% some time.

>>53376098
>>Flamerush Rider is the only other card I'm aware of that would facilitate quick, repeatable XP
There's still affinity

>>53376211
I meant new stuff. I'm aware that Proliferate works with it, I just wish they'd printed some "experience counters" specific cards other than the Commanders.

>>53376215
I think you're vastly overestimating lifegain in a format where a rule was created specifically to kneecap it.

How important is it to run stuff that puts your graveyard into your library in a Niv Mizzet deck with Curiosity & Ophidian Eye?

>>53376211
11 of the 15 cards that do that are in either Green, Black, or Blue

what a shocker

>>53376256
And the remaining ones are four artifacts and a single red spell.

>>53376220
true, but Frogmite et al doesn't translate too well into EDH without devoting the entirety of the deck to it

>>53376285
>and a single red spell
And a shitty burn one.

>>53376158
Partners are great, all we need is more of them so we can mix and match things. Some are too situational - Sidar is only useful if U is included (for Edric and combat damage effects) and some are just total unplayable trash like Ikra and Ludevic.
Akiri, Thrasios, Reyhan, Tymna, Vial Smasher, Bruse, Kydele, Tana are all powerhouses in the right deck.

>>53376297
You could do much worse than Boros for affinity colors

>>53376233
You mean something like

>(2)(W)(B)
>enchantment, during your upkeep opponents lose life equal to the # of experience counters, and you gain life equal to the # of experience counters?
Would have been great.

>>53376318
Hey Ikra has her uses, some anon mentioned a "buttlink/buttbreathing" deck with her and Bruse some threads ago and it sounded plausible.

>>53376348
>Animal Brollective
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>53376348
Sounds jank as fuck
Ikra is only useful in the 99 of Doran, and even then she's pretty much useful because Doran is garbage

>>53376318
My complaints about Partners are "the ones we got are boring" and "They used Partner as a bullshit cop-out".

Had Commander 2016 been FOCUSED on partner, and we'd gotten some interesting/unique/synergistic ones, I would have loved it.

>>53376321
Kinda, yeah. Or a spell that does a 'base' thing, but does it better/something additional if you have N or more counters.

>>53376437
They are synergistic enough if you ask me. What sucks though is that allied color pairs only got 1 partner each.

>>53376462
Eh, I disagree. Only a few of the combinations really synergize with each other in an interesting way.

>>53376437
>tfw no super shitty mill partner to pair with the regrow partner
self mill is best mill

>>53376475
That's because only like 9 of the total 15 partners are playable.

>>53374544
ice age or time spiral

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>>53376493
>slot Ravos into my Orzhov tokens deck
>can't wait to reap the sick value
>9 games go by
>never draw him

>>53376484
Honestly though why did they skimp out on so many color characteristics when making partners? Where is my
>azorius tax partner
>dimir mill partner
>rakdos discard or reanimator partner
>gruul control punisher partner
>selesnya "all your spells have convoke" or something partner
?

>>53374908
ice age would be lovisa
time spiral would be radha or mirri

>>53376493
Well, that and most of them have really boring abilities.

>>53376588
Because "Partner" was a 5 PM Friday solution to a corner they painted themselves into. The theme of C16 was "half-assed".

>>53376547
ive done this with dreamhalls its been over a month and not a single time did I draw it nor did I get a tutor that can go and grab it
so what gives bring to light, why cant you grab enchantments?

>>53376547
>Ravos in the 99
>"Sick value"
There are so many better options in those colors.

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>>53376614
As I say, they're mismatched for their colors
>because nothing says Golgari more than "I gain life through my ass"

>>53376619
And yet on an idea level, it's the perfect solution for 4 color decks, much better than clunky 4 color legends

>>53376418
>Sounds jank as fuck
That's the only sentence you need to use to sell me a deck idea. But yeah, if you're not already keen on Doran you won't like the shenanigans I had planned for Ikra.

>>53376588
>selesnya "all your spells have convoke"
Paradox Engine says hello. But yeah, Azorius tax and Rakdos discard or discard interactive partner would be hella better.

>>53376588
>>53376619
it appears as though 4c has very little working room, thats what the development team said
and you are right the partners were clearly a tacked on option because they, and this is their words "already had trouble getting a single 4 color commander that felt on flavor" the partners are intentionally weak because that mechanic has so much room for abuse and they didnt have time to go through them all
that being said I like a lot of the partners

>>53376658
>Paradox Engine says hello
Limit it to a spell type. Make it enchantments only for example, since Selesnya is either those or tokens, and also gives enchantress support to other colors by proxy.

>>53376645
i am not a smart man and i never claimed it was a good deck
i just wanna get back my Greel discard fodder.

>>53376646
Eeeeh. Like I said, if Partners had been the FOCUS and we'd gotten some interesting designs that partnered up to do unique or fun things, I would have loved it. That's what they should have done.

When you're promised "Four Color Commanders" and you get one of each, then are told 'it's too hard to design, so here's a bunch of half-cards that you can glue together to build your own 4 color Commander', it's a bullshit cop-out. Hell, if they'd said from the start that Partner was their solution to 4 color, that'd be great. But it wasn't. It was a bullshit "Close enough" solution to them writing a check they couldn't cash.

>>53376668
>it appears as though 4c has very little working room
Then they shouldn't have teased that they were going to make fucking 15 of them.

There's a reason there hadn't been 4 color legendaries (or ANYTHING besides the Nephilim) before: it's narrow and worthless design space.

>>53376668
>the partners are intentionally weak

Thrasios and Vial Smasher are fantastic choices on their own, not even counting the ability to be used with partner

>>53376668
>the partners are intentionally weak
Not all of them, for example Tana is one of the best Gruul legends and with Reyhan or Bruse she's a powerhouse.

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>>53376717
>Tana is one of the best Gruul legends

>>53376715
Thrasios isn't that great, in my opinion. He's only really 'good' if you can funnel infinite mana into him so you can assemble your real combo, and U/G has better Commanders that are more useful. He's not unplayable, or even bad- I just think he's not as good as people crow about.

Vial Smasher I'm just flat unimpressed by in multi, but she is bucking fonkers 1v1, even in the 99.

>>53376715
these fall under "room for abuse"
>>53376717
ur just dumb

>>53376745
I'll give you Ruric, Wort, Xenagos and maybe Mina/Denn but who else? She's certainly better than Memenath

>>53376717
>Tana is one of the best Gruul legends
>Who is angry Omnath
>Who is angry Borb
>Who is Ruric Thar
>Who is Xenagod
>Who is Wort the Raidmother
If by "one of the best" you mean "one of the."

>>53376781
I didn't say she's better than none of them, or that she's bad.

I was challenging your argument that she's the best option, and you just flat out agreed that at best she's 4th.

>>53376823
>>53376825
>what does "one of the best" mean?

>I was challenging your argument that she's the best option
An argument I've never used?

>>53376852
"Fourth" is not 'one of the best'.

And I'd hesitate to even put her that high. She's one of the most aggressively mediocre of them all.

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>>53376717
>Tana best gruul legend

How so?

Shes already expensive at 4 mana for a 2/2 trampler, she quickly becomes expensive should you need to recast her, which, given her small P/T and no evasion or protection will happen quite often.


Her ability to produce tokens is fairly inefficent requiring player combat damage, and having only 2 power, means you need to pump her.


The very fact of pumping her makes it so 21 commander damage is a more viable wincon then whatever you could do with the token spawning.

I do run her, partnered with Ravos.

>>53376825
>she's bad
She is bad

>>53376823
Seriously.

>2/2 with Trample for 4 in the most aggressive 2 color combination
>Makes Saprolings in a color combination that doesn't want to go wide with little guys, and is not great at turning them into value like G/B would

She has the quintessential partner problem: Instead of being good at anything, she's just shitty at two things.

>>53376859
For a legend that's intended to be coupled with somebody else, 4th place is hella impressive if you ask me
>>53376860
Have people forgotten to read today by accident? It says "one of the" in the very post.
>what to do with million tokens
Ashnod's Altar, Purphoros & friends, Craterhoof, Beastmaster Ascension, even Overwhelming Stampede if you've been pumping her, convoke, anthems etc.

>>53376905
>hella
>listening to the opinions of a niggerfaggot

>>53376879
>a color that includes red
>doesn't want to go wide
pls

>>53376905
The only hinky thing is, she can literally only make tokens by dealing COMBAT DAMAGE to opponents.

Why not just fucking kill them if she's your Commander? And if you're going to beat them to death with your commander, why would you pick a 2/2 for 4 with no evasion or protection? It's like the issue with Kemba- she's shitty at two things. Kemba wants you to stack a billion equipment onto her, but she makes tokens, which means she wants to go tall AND wide.

>>53376905
>a million tokens

You would have already won by now unless she isn't your commander. That is the unfortunate fact of having the tokens being tied to player combat damage.

>>53376905
I would rather play Radha to Tana.

>>53376905
She's definitely not 4th. Ulasht is probably even better in a lot of cases.

>>53376928
Not sure if you've noticed, but pumping somebody to 21+ AND giving them evasion is a tall order for any commander. Also even if you manage it, you can only kill one person that way per turn.
>>53376946
>What are figurative numbers
>what is Parallel Lives

>>53376949
Radha is at least guaranteed ramp to a 4-drop or instant 5-drop turn 3. That's pretty decent.

>>53376995
You don't need to pump them to 21. I can kill someone by swinging 3 times with an evasive 6 power guy that I'v egiven +1 power to. Generally if you want to go Voltron, it needs to either have built-in evasion (so you can focus on protecting and enlarging), built-in protection (so you can focus on evasion and boosting), or be hilariously big for the mana cost so you can focus on evasion and protection.

Atarka (not even a GREAT Voltron commander, but follow along here) doesn't win by swinging as a 21/X once. Atarka wins by swinging fucking twice, because she deals 12 damage unblocked.

>>53376949
>>53376958
And both of them lock you into Gruul colors. Ulasht needs to spend mana and weaken himself to be useful even
>Radha
Or you could play any other manadork or mana rock

>>53376995
>what is Parallel Lives
Another card that would be more useful if you were running another commander instead of Tana.

>>53377048
>best gruul command
>lock you into Gruul colors
you dont say
>play another mana rock in the command zone
I do, selvala mld is a very good deck

>>53376646
>because nothing says Golgari more than "I gain life through my ass"

That actually does make sense though. They've pushed Black lately as being more lopsided on toughness' favor to differentiate it from Red, so Black and Green are ostensibly the most "Toughness matters" colors now.

>>53377048
Right, neither one of them are especially strong options.

And they're still better than Tana.

>>53376995
>figurative numbers

Doesn't mean much given that 21 is player death, and that isn't hard to reach.

With parallel live out, that means you had dealt just under half the needed commander damage to spawn 20 tokens, why not just deal the other half of commander damage and be done with it.

>>53377039
>create 10+ tokens with a single swing
>next turn drop beastmaster ascension and swing with tokens at another player
???
>>53377070
Why are you comparing Selvala with somebody that will only ever feasibly net you 1 mana?
>>53377083
Well Tana wins me games and Radha doesn't, so there must be something amiss about that

>>53377088
Like I said: instead of good at one thing, she's bad at two.

>>53377120
>create 10+ tokens with a single swing
>next turn drop Beastmaster Ascension and swing with tokens at another player
That's a real cool Christmasland you set up there, chief. Why wouldn't you have just given Tana Doublestrike so she killed that player instead?

>>53377120
>Why are you comparing Selvala with somebody that will only ever feasibly net you 1 mana?
because you can whiff with selvala and they are both commanders
having a mana dork in the command zone is much different than having it in the 99

>>53377120
>Well Tana wins me games and Radha doesn't, so there must be something amiss about that
list I'd love to see what passes for a deck over in spicland

>>53377131
>attack 1 player
>instead of finishing him off I start focusing on another player so the whole table hates me at once!
wut

>>53377120
>Well Tana wins me games
I can 'win a game' with a Raging Goblin, that doesn't make it a good card.

>>53377120
The thing that's amiss is you trying to pretend that these are actual scenarios.

>>53377157
Go look for it yankee, you ain't too poor to afford internet are you?

>>53377185
>too poor to afford internet
>he says on an internet forum
?????
wheres the list, buddy?

Is Tana guy this thread's meme poster? We need to have an archive of them. My favorite was the Easter European guy who's LGS would only let them use cards bought there.

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Cards you like that you don't see played as much as you'd expect?

>>53377253
>the easter poster
dude that was a dark day
>muh goalpost moving
>muh mono red
>muh partner commanders
>muh U/W tokens guy

>>53377278
That wasn't all the same day.

I know because I was the one who got suckered into the U/W tokens argument, and that was a few weeks ago, whereas the mono red goalpost moving was last week

>>53377253
Police State LGS is personal favorite. If their location is ever discovered, we're obligated to pizza-bomb them.

>>53377263
The problem with Wildest Dreams is that unless someone is milling you or you're playing Golgari Grave control there aren't too many cards that you NEED to get back, and if you just need one then EWit does it better.

>>53377263
that card is interesting but too expensive
e-wit is much more reusable
regrowth is much cheaper
if x = 2 its just restock
if x = 3 or higher you may as well cast Praetor's Counsel or Seasons Past

>>53377324
I demand storytime

>>53377312
>We need to have an archive of them
I dont know why you would assume it was all the same day
the easter poster was enough to make that day dark by itself

>>53377329
And usually you're better off dropping Praetor's Counsel to get back everything, whereas for a similar price Dreams would only get you 3 or 4 cards.

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God this general is full of autism lately
>Bryanposter
>MLDpastas
>Monoredsperg
>Tokenposter
>Goalpostposter
and now we can add a new meme
>Tanaposter

I would not be surprised if they're all the same person, they usually make an incredibly retarded statement or sperg out about nothing and then proceed to try to defend their statement in any way possible digging themselves even deeper

>>53377263
Pic related.

Also Vicious Shadows has won me SO many games.

Also Deathbringer Thoctar is silly good, especially against wide decks because it legit could just read "No 1/1's are allowed to live as long as this guy is on the field".

>>53377329
>>53377332
>>53377359
The point is that you're trading lategame power for versatility. It's strictly better than Restock, at least.

You can either use it as a manasink late to get many cards back, or use it as a clutch Recollect either early game or even late game if you want to be able to cast the card you got back. It's all-time utility.

>>53377349
this thread

https://yuki.la/tg/48993430#p48993430

starts at 48995552

>>53377412
Eh. It's pretty good early/mid-game when you can use it as a clutch E-Wit, or drop it for 5 to get back 2 specific cards, but anytime I cast it for more than X=2 I'd rather be playing Counsel.

>>53377391
They're not ALL the same person.

I'm monored and goalpost.

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>>53377403
Sorry forgot pic lol

>>53377403
An empty board has won me a lot of games too!

>>53377391
You sound pretty autistic on your own, which one is you?

>>53375478
anyone?

>>53377391
I made the MLD pasta, and I was the guy who kept pissing Bryanposter off until he mentioned Bryan. I also was the guy who was asking for mono red commanders and then mentioned that I didn't want to do artifacts and the guy flipped out about moving goal posts etc.

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Anyone else think Seventh Edition art is underrated?

>>53374353
oh that's kinda cute
>6 cmc
you WHAT

>>53377253
Don´t forget the guy with the 29 land vampire deck

>>53377549
Don't sell him short, he also had a Dark Ritual!

>>53374381
Might as well just put Phenax, at least he can block

>>53377532
Part of the problem is the age. One of the biggest issues with white borders is that they turn ugly in a fucking hurry, so outside of foils most 7E cards you come across show their age very badly.

>>53374353
>>53374379
>>53377547
It does end up looking pretty silly next to Embalmer's Tools.

>>53375138
This

>>53377549
Wasn't he also the Bryan guy?

>>53377605
No, Bryan

>>53377532
That's the Paladins core set, right? They had some neat art and flavors.

>>53377574
Phenax gives the ability to the creature so the faeries can't mill right away.

>>53377580
I always had this idea in mind: Wouldn't it be somewhat easy to "alter" the white border to a black border?

>>53375997
You know demons aren't real, right Anon?

>>53377635
For certain definitions of "easy". Taking a Sharpie to white-borders was a common thing back in the day, but it frequently looks like shit to start with, and ages poorly. You could have someone with some skill (including yourself, if applicable) just paint the edges black, but you'd need a steady hand to make sure you keep the lines perfectly straight, as well as technically needing permission from the Head Judge for any event you ever try to use them in, since they ARE altered.

>>53377655
>he doesnt think demons are real
wew

>>53377673
We're talking EDH anyway, the Head Judge has no business with my alters if I'm playing casual.

>>53377699
Fair enough.

>>53377580
>not appreciating the vintage look of played cards
I bet you don't have facial hair either

>>53377655
>He thinks demons aren't real

This is why you don't win major events.
Bob Maher is best friends with Beelzebub.
Jon Finkel is literally a succubus.
LSV is an incarnation of Moloch.

>>53377716
>Wanting cards covered in cheeto dust and pocket lint

>>53377737
>This is why you don't win major events.
I dont show up to major events though
why would I directly support mark (((Rosewater)))
all my cards are proxied

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>>53377737
6/10 would bang

>>53377744
People carry cards around in pockets where you live?

>>53377762
Old cards, sure. We started with Pokemon in my area (no game shop, so it was the first CCG most of my group was exposed to), and I can tell you that the most common way people carried their decks to the Pokemon/Yugioh League at the bookstore was usually rubber-banded together in their pocket, or a gallon ziplock bag.

>>53377794
Reeee that's not how you value something expensive you fucking trust fund babies

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>>53377827
>expensive

>>53377827
To be fair, we were 11 and stupid. I remember seeing Ultra Pro Card Sleeves at that store back when advertising acid-free plastic was a new thing, and not knowing what the fuck they WERE because I'd never seen a single person use card sleeves.

>>53377838
>tfw they forgot to print Energy counter tokens for Kaladesh so everyone broke these out

It was good times. If I had anything that cared about Energy, I'd probably still use them.

>>53377827
Those decks were probably draft chaff. Either that or they didn't knew the value of cards, most people are like that before they learn their wrecked Aether Vial is actually expensive af. Or at least would be if it wasn't folded in half or some shit.

>>53377838
One TCG booster was like a month of pocket money for me, you are all heretics

Yo /edh/.

My last commander was Shu Yun and I had a fucking blast, but now I want a monocolor deck.

Any suggestions?

>>53376622
Hedron Alignment.

>>53377871
King Macar the gold-cursed

>>53377869
>your pokemon collection wasnt just cards you found on the ground and/or cards you traded for
I found my first card on the ground and traded it for a chamander, my collection sprouted up from there
>>53377871
>mono color deck
I suggest suicide

>>53377891
i guess that almost makes sense in the most retarded way possible

>>53377904
Woah, he looks pretty annoying to play against. Thanks.
>>53377914
>I suggest suicide
B-but I don't want to worry about mana base...

>>53377930
Welcome to MTG.

>>53377957
>B-but I don't want to worry about mana base...
then play two colors
you can literally use nothing but basic lands especially if one of those colors is green

so you want green
you like combat damage and maybe some spell stuff
how about you get yourself a wort raidmother deck
be sure to have plenty of ramp spells (at least 9) that way you can ramp and color fix at the same time
now if wort isnt your slice of cake, you can use Rosheen Meanderer, x spell tribal
or the ever popular Ezuri, Claw of Progress

>>53377891
So Wizards are worried that instead of 0 decks using it we'd have maybe 1 deck using it?

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>>53378022
>So Wizards are worried that instead of 0 decks using it we'd have maybe 1 deck using it?

>>53377871
Daretti is the only answer.

>Inb4 STOP MOVING THE GOAL POST

>>53378022
Yeah, similarly that is their idea behind bannings, as they often attempt to utterly kill decks rather than weaken them, like Top in Miracles, Summer Bloom, Splinter Twin, Gitaxian Probe to kill Infect.

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What are the objective top 3 mono green commander?

>>53378090
>stop movign the shitposs t

>>53378090
But I already have a Daretti deck, can you suggest something more monocolor and less artifacts?

>>53378119
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53378111
Selvala
Azusa
Omnath
...if you're a pleb. Otherwise you play Multani

>>53378111
Selvala, Yisan, and then a massive power gap to Seton I guess.

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>People complain I play too much Grixis combo
>Play Ruric Thar
>Get asked to go back to combo

>>53378016
Mono Black, Blue, and Green are all perfectly viable. Even mono Red is okay if you go Purph.

>>53378111
Selvala
Yisan
Seton
Titania
Pick your poison.

>>53376622
>so what gives bring to light, why cant you grab enchantments?

They like to do formatting in bits of three, so Creature/Instant/Sorcery. They didn't want it to be able to grab Lands or Planeswalkers, but they hate printing Nonplaneswalker, so this is what we ended up with.

how do you curve in commander? I'm new to the format and just prototyped my first deck.
The curve feels pretty high, there's only a handful cards under 3 if you don't count X.

>>53376762
Nigga what

You get infinite mana and you draw your whole deck and play all your lands

It's literally go infinite and win.

>>53378285

It really depends on the group you play with. EDH ranges from casual battleship magic with an average CMC of 4-5, all the way over to groups that have 3-4 turn games.

For a sort of middle of the road group, you still probably want to be doing stuff right out of the gates though. Maybe toss up a list on tappedout or something and some Anons can help you out with your curve.

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>>53378285
upload your list to a site like tappedout that allows you to literally see your curve and analyzes your avg CMC/color use.

In very broad terms, an average CMC of 3.5 is considered good

>>53377871
MonoB best monoX

>>53378285
Generally you want a pretty normal bell curve with 3-4 drops being your highest point. Commander is different from other formats because you'll never have real consistency, but you generally want to be doing *something* on at least turn 2 or 3. It also changes based on your commander. If it's a 5 drop, you don't want to have a bunch of other 5 drops unless they're extremely important to the deck.

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>>53378324
>>53378334
We haven't started playing yet but we will soon (though with the prepacked commanders), we're just all building some decks that we'd like to play eventually once we've settled down in the format.
I guess i'll have to wait and see what people come up with and can adjust the deck when i know more about how commander plays out.

>>53378413
Which commander?

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100% of people who don't think partner commanders are insane are really, really retarded.

>>53378473
We went over this 3 threads ago, its about 8/15 partners that are worth playing, that split makes it hard to play certain color combinations and some of those 8 really aren't efficient at all

>>53378285

My slower decks tend to max out at whatever CMC my Commander sits at, which typically caps out around 6 (it's nice knowing that once I can cast my Commander, I can cast anything in my deck). Decks with more ramp or draw I might throw in some some higher CMC cards, but I still try to stay around what >>53378334 said.

>>53378473
only Vial-Smasher is anywhere close to insane and only in 1v1

>>53378473
Some of them are good like Vialsmasher, Kydele or Thrasios, some of them are decent like Silas Renn or Ikra or Akiri, some of them are complete and utter shit like Ludevic, Kraum and Tana

>>53378579
>>53378543
Two wrong posts let's see if we can get three!

Fucks sake /tg/, stop taking the bait.

>>53378594
>he thinks buttlife is a playable commander
wew

>>53378594
bread is getting stale, it's about time we spice it up with a stupid argument before it gets nix'd

>>53377441

Borrowed a mate's EDH deck one day. Got hit with Wave of Vitriol. That's when I found out there were a grand total of 5 basic lands in the deck.

To add insult to injury the guy who cast it got it back from his graveyard and did it again a few turns later.

>>53377871
E M R A K U L

>>53374544
Definitely Time Spiral.
>Jhoira time counter shenanigans
>Dralnu drawgo
>Blue Braids big blue
>Intet ramp
>Linessa shenanigans
>Numot control

>>53378285
A CMC above 2 and you may as well play Craw Wurm.

>>53378733
>A CMC above 2 and you may as well play Craw Wurm.
this if ad naus isnt your win condition you may as well throw your whole deck in the shredder

>>53378708
>forgetting Teferi
You definitely aren't my nigga.

>>53378782
>forgetting Teferi
There's not quite enough good options for him in-block. I mean, I'd definitely run him and Venser in my 99.

>>53378590
>Tana is shit

Oh boy

>>53378806
I think you would be surprised.

>>53378766

>wasting life just to get a couple more cards

God this format is full of retards.

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>>53378874

>>53378303
Right. You use him to set up your actual combo. He does sweet Fanny Adams until you've got an infinite mana combo going, and "it combos with infinite mana" is literally nothing. If my Commander is going to be a combo piece, then the combo is going to win me the game, not find me the combo that does.

>>53375638
Redudnancy is a good thing usually

>>53379082
Some redundancy is good.

You don't need a ton of redundancy for that effect, considering it's attached to an indestructible enchantment you always have access to.

>>53379082

I read that as "Redundancy is usually a good thing usually" and laughed at the joke that apparently existed only in my head.

>>53379082
>>53379101
Good redundancy in this situation would be Reliquary Tower or Thought Vessel, so you don't end up getting blown out and losing a massive hand of cards to a endstep removal spells. Spellbook is bad redundancy, because it's weak jank.

>>53379101
Yes, but we're talking about 1 card here, not 10.
Besides, having max hand size isn't usually relevant unless being in battlecruiser meta and the lifegain is pretty bad by itself and only good if you can use it somehow or you're a ebin durdle in a battlecruiser meta.
Ivory tower isn't a good card nor is Journal, they only become usefum if the lifegain or hand size can be utilised properly somehow.

>>53379057
>generate infinite mana
>play Thrasios
>dump infinite mana into Thrasios
>win
Thrasios is a combo piece that you always have.

>>53379387
not to mention hes a mana sink for draw go strats

>>53378473
>you can play anything with partners
>even rakdos
>as long as you play rakdos

>>53378465
gonti

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>>53378896

>5 mana
>pay 4-5 life per card unless it's a land
>Get killed by the might of my Kalemne the next turn because you're tapped out from casting it

Fool

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>>53379571
>he has an average cmc of 4-5

>>53379619

>not running nothing but craw worm in your Autumn WIllow deck

Neck yourself you fucking Spike,

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I won three games in a row today. The third with Niv-Mizzet and curiosity. My playgroup got really upset and seriously discussed banning infinite combos.

Putting aside that Niv+Curio isn't actually infinite and is limited my deck size. My previous two wins were Bruna with Corrupted Conscience and Battle Mastery + Aetherflux Resevoir

And one with Avacyn + Worldslayer

Am I wrong for liking comboes?

mfw they are just mad I win too decisively.

>>53380171
They're boring but I honestly wouldn't want to play with you because games would just be interaction tests instead of actual games.

>>53380225
what the fuck is an "interaction test"
is this a new way to say "I don't want to run answers."

>>53380171
Yes, you are wrong. Why? Well, two card combos are anticlimactic. No one gets mad when you assemble a rag tag Ghave combo out of spare parts, but if you tutor doubling season and ashnods every game people are going to be pissed. Same with Niv and curiosity except curiosity is a cheap garbage card that instantly ends the game with your commander. To win with Ghave you need around 12 invested mana, your combo is significantly less.

>>53380244
>opponent plays dumb Johnny cards
>look to see if I drew into removal
>if yes win the game
>if no lose the game
It just isn't interesting.

>>53380282
>opponent plays anything that can win
>don't have my one removal card
>whine
pls go

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What's the best way to build Angry Black Woman Yelling In High Velocity? I already know Elvish Piper is pretty much an auto-include.

>>53377391
>fucking Stangg has more decks

>>53380282
If someone is playing a deck that's clearly combo, you save your answers for when you need them.
It's not hard man, it's simple threat assessment.

>>53380551
Stangg the Mangg

>>53380467
I'd probably go voltron with stuff like Captain Sisay and Mother of Runes for support.

>>53380551
>>53380586
I know it doesn't work that way, but my playgroup lets Stangg and Stangg Twin both count as commanders for damage, and also let people have two Brothers Yamazaki as their commander. It's pretty fun.

>>53374608
>likes enchantments
>enchantment block is gay
???
?

>>53380738
>picking the most busted block in history as your deck's theme, presumably to be competing against decks with similar building constraints

>>53380317
>>53380559
When the fuck did I say I couldn't do it? Just because I can beat it doesn't mean it's fun to play against.

>>53378590
I like Kraum

Haste, Flying, Card Draw, he ain't bad

>>53379057
>Commander enables you to win super consistently
>He isn't good because it isn't the winning card

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>>53380863
Clearly you're severely brain-damaged if you don't enjoy a puzzle.

>>53381354
Why would I solve puzzles when I can smash face instead? You're probably the type who reads instructions.

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What commander(s) best make use of this card? I got a couple from a friend who's piecing out his modest but really good collection

>>53381386
Mayael for even more "fuck you counterspell" tech
Feldon for getting stuff from hand to grave
Brion for flinging a Serra Avatar for RR
Riku for UGR: Keep a copy of the token

>>53381386
alesha comes to mind

>>53381443
>>53381443
>>53381443
new thread

>>53381354
>casting Path
>a puzzle
Magic isn't even real Beato.

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>>53380282

>Play my dumb combo deck
>Opponents have removal and counterspells
>I also have removal and counterspells
>They also have combos
>Bob brought Sisay Stax
>We all have a good time even though Bob is a dick