Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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first for competitive 40k

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Last for genestealer impregnation fantasies.

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>>53363061

>Previous thread
Dayum, that's so true.

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>>53363208
Oh my god, anon... please tell me there's more

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So this guy charges you gf from the other side of the table and hits her ass with 80 rending attacks
What do you do?

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Ok, so instead of shitposting - do you think that pic related will stay as an Elite choice in 8th, or will it be taken back to the HQ slot ?

I'm wondering this since I started scratch-building my own with various random bits and a flyrant body.

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>>53363260
Game over man. I simply welcome my new genestealer overlords.

>>53363233
>mfw
>also, captcha says "field stop"

>>53363270
Dunno, but definitely one of the coolest tyranids, lore-wise.

I hope HQ. commanding tyranids that are attacking pockets that survived the main onslaught to pick out worthy genetic material to incorpirate into the hive fleet.

>>53363260
>Tau pulse rifles are 30"
>Genestealers can charge 34"
>A dedicated melee unit with no guns can outrange the shootiest faction

>>53363378
>And everything was exactly as it should be.

How assmad would you be if someone used a night lord army as Carchardons?

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>>53363255
>W-WHAAAT?!
>G-G-GUILLIMAN IS BAAACK?!?!
>NOOOOO!
>The primarchs have been proven to be corruptible! Power was given to us High Lords for a reason!
>If you trust Guilliman he'll put Primaris in your chapters to replace you!
>H-He'll bring back the legions! It will be anudda Istvaan!
>HE HAS TO BE STOPPED!!!!

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>>53363378
I'm happy for you, 'Nid players.
Consume a riptide or two for me!

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>>53363378
That's what you get for playing blueberries
I'd play them too, since I like their aesthetics, but since I prefer melee and since Tau's just can't into it instead of kroots and farsight himself, I gave my soul to the hivemind instead

>>53363378
>Not having a wall of kroot or a Devilfish to protect you Fire Warriors

Do you even 8th edition?

>>53363378
Not a tyranid player and I kinda dig that possibility. The onrush ought to be fast enough that sometimes you can only get off snap shots. Not always the case with random charge distances, but I like the possibility. It means sometimes you'll have to accept the casualties and just regroup while the rest of your army shoots them down.

It means the genestealers need to be pointed at a high value target, like they should be, and even then they might not make it.

>>53363443
What a coincidence I play nids, I just thought it was funny my guys can run further that your guys can shoot

Ork faction focus next plz

Having them wait so long to do it feels likee theyve got something to hide

>>53363233
>Oh my god, anon... please tell me there's more
Working on it. Will probably draw some more tomorrow. Stay tuned.

>magos biologis in charge of backwater forge world delves into psychology/sociology to try to figure out how serfs tick to better motivate them
>makes shocking discovery: cute things are cute
>begins experimenting with Theory of Moe (named after an assistant); machines with more human/feminine aspects tend to increase productivity and morale, reduce mistreatment of machine spirits
>begins sequestering and indoctrinating young girls into local Machine Cult and Skitarii en masse, relying on Hive World imports for labor as prole population swings towards completely male
>invasive biomechanical reconstruction arrests physical growth; as (the appearance of) injury increases coefficient of Moe, warplate is scaled back in favor of subdermal plating, respirators are replaced with mechanical lungs and nasal filters, and artificial muscle compensates for smaller stature
>new Skitarii deployed in limited engagements, favorably edited data uplinks are screened to test audiences with favorable results
>recorded exploits (and later, daily lives out of combat) of Skitarii become cornerstone of forge world propaganda, with vidscreens erected everywhere and in every hab-block
>seeing what could have been their sisters or daughters fighting to protect them, and increasingly desperate for the touch of a woman, manufactorum output and registry for auxilliary forces explodes, fear of the Xeno subsumed by hate, to the point where recruits have to be turned down in droves to maintain production quotas
>Skitarii slowly allowed to retain more personality and autonomy/receive less training to increase Moe appeal and drama; Maniples are supported by forge world auxiliaries, and, in sufficiently dangerous situations, doctrina imperatives turn them into cold, analytical assassins/berserk killbots
>when bandages/cosmetic flesh/metalsculpting can't hide aging or disfigurement, Skitarii are recycled and replaced

TL;DR: Magos Biologis tries to increase productivity; inadvertently invents anime.

>>53363309
If it's your warlord, you get a special Ripper buffing strategem. That'd be fun.

>>53363480
Stop trying to make Magical Girl Warhammer happen.

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>>53363480

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>friend invites me to his lgs
>has some cool terrain
>decent amount of shit in stock
>check prices
>MSRP or higher
>mfw

That is the first shop I've been to that wasn't at least 15% off msrp. I wanted to buy something, but I couldn't bring myself to do it.

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>>53363480
This is... beautiful, anon.

>>53363480
I'd watch that show.

>>53363378
It only needs a 300 point unique character and a 1-in-216 roll to work! Now you can finally kill those five FW!

>>53363556

You underestimate how wide 20 Genestealers are.

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>>53363411
Completely buttflustered

>>53363556
That's assuming they aren't charging from an outflanking or deep striking or infiltrating position.

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>can't deepstrike within 9 inches
>can't crash your drop pods into enemy units

>>53363524
I've never been to a lgs that wasn't msrp.

>>53363494
no

>>53363529
>>53363535
Thanks!
The real question is: How would I model them?

>>53363603
I never understood this, since this is basically the entire point of using them in every non-tabletop medium.

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I'm guessing you guys have some experience with recasters. The one I see referenced a lot around here is 'the chinaman', which I guess is probably CCON or Z.

Does anyone have any experience with Fast & Cheap? They are russian, have an actual website you can order through and offer free shipping.

G-guys...

Will my deathwatch be good in this edition?

>>53363638
>I never understood this,

Gameplay must take precedence over fluff.

>>53363660
Honestly, despite being very cynical about the new rules fixing the game, I think there is actually a reasonable chance every army and most units will be 'good enough' that skill and luck become the main deciding factors.

But it depends entirely on points costs. We've seen like three actual points costs, plus another half-dozen or so power ratings which we aren't sure how to translate. There's nothing like enough information yet to judge if the game is balanced and if not, in who's favour it is unbalanced.

That said, I very much doubt that your existing models are going to stay competitive if the game is at all unbalanced. They are old marines, exactly the range that GW feel the least need to support now that the new improved marines have arrived. If deathwatch are good, it will be because they have the best primaris units, not because their existing guys are good.

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With the stat-line for regular dreadnoughts being confirmed, what are your thoughts for how their leviathan brethren will stack up in the new edition?

Will they be just as durable? Even more so?

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>>53363590

Why?

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All my dudes are getting buffed. Everyone told me terminators and dreads were shit, but I loved them and ran them. Now they're going to be good and people will think I'm a bandwagoning WAACfag. What do I do?

>>53363816
I could see them becoming t8 2+ save maybe 10ish wounds

>>53363646

The only non-china I used was Legion Forge, and I loved what they made. In fact, I'm kind of sad that their 40k was taken down because I wanted to order more shoulders and shit for my Night Lords. I think they were Ukraine based, though.

>>53363854
You're just gonna have to kill yourself

Can someone tell me what all the tyranid hype is about?
I read the faction focus, what did i miss?

>>53363890
But I've already tried that...

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>>53363854
tell them to fuck off if they have any problem with you, Terminators and Dreadnoughts are one of the best parts of playing Space Marines

Considering how hard they got shat on throughout 6th and 7th edition its about damn time they became tanky again

>>53363924
High to extreme movement/charge ranges depending on how well you roll. Plus synapse makes you immune to morale. Since bad morale rolls incur more casualties instead of falling back, tyranid blobs will be more resilient.

>>53363924
Tyranids are fast as fuck and good at melee, expect guaranteed T1 charges and put you back line stuff in transports or it will be raped to death by bugs

>>53363731
I mean, an army of practically sternguard surely should pack a punch right?

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So, I guess my lore is out of date (been out of the game since 5th), do Harlequins no longer use possession and self-exorcism to recruit new members anymore?

>>53363947


So shooty nids will be shit?
Fuck, i like my shooty nids..

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What are you guys doing tonight?
I painted my first black templar. I really didn't enjoy it, I don't think I'm gonna do space marine allies to my guard...

>>53363963
Well, kraken penetrators might translate well into 8th edition, since AP -1 is way better than AP 4 was. Also, they seem very close to the new marines' basic gun, so that's likely to be at least somewhat useful.

Power armour got tougher and much better in cover, so shooty marine units are looking good.

Heavy bolters and heavy flamers both seem good, so that big combi-weapon thing should rock pretty hard.

>>53363924
Trygons burrow in with a unit of 20 Genestealers + Broodlord, Swarmlord casts Hive Commander on them. Boom, guaranteed turn 1 charge generating 80 attacks hitting on 2+.

>>53364094
Don't know yet, only Genestealers and the Swarmlord were really talked about.

Warriors are apparently more resilient due to the changes in 8th, whilst pyrovores are meant to be good or so he says.

So I guess we'll wait. Would be nice to get some decent firepower though, hopefully the Rupture Cannon actually lives up to its fluff

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Everyone stop sperging out and post pics of the table(s) where you play.

Below the table are several large totes of terrain for classic 40K golf course forest, desert, ash wastes, hive world, and death world jungles.

>>53364144
Well, considering that Genestealers, the Swarmlord, Warriors, and Pyrovores were all some of the worst units in the last codex, the fact that they're seeing improvements across the board is a good sign.

>>53364136

Don't reserves come at Turn 2+?

How can the Trygon burrow with the genestealers T1 and attack in the same turn?

>>53363638
>I never understood this, since this is basically the entire point of using them in every non-tabletop medium.
That was just the rule for Trygons, though. It's safe to assume it won't be identical for Drop Pods.

>>53364181


Yet I still don't understand how Warriors got better. Their T and W is literally the same right now, yet they wrote they are more durable.

Terminators got an extra wound, why not Warriors?

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Post models that need to be updated.

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My wife Yvraine is so cute.

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>>53363816
The real question is what till the stats on a chaos contemptor be? Loyalist variant is fine too.

>>53364095
Working on said contemptor.

>>53364245
No more ID and they're wounded on 3+ instead of 2+ at S6 and S7

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>>53364254
I think someone said this thing turned 25 years old.

>>53364245
They're improved by the removal of instant death, which had been their biggest problem.

>>53364245
Well, there are a few things to consider. Firstly, that they no longer lose as much from weapons with AP. AP 4 is now -1 and leaves them with a 5+, and you need a Lascannon to ignore their save entirely.

Also, even with toughness 4, they're now wounded on 3+ by S6/7 guns. That helps them out a lot against the likes of autocannons.

Finally, having 3 wounds matters more now that Instant death isn't a thing. A Lascannon that used to be a certain kill now has a 1/3 shot of falling short.

I do hope they take the chance to add in some cool biomorph options though. Now that specific toughness, wound, and save values are less key, paying points for an increase wouldn't be as drastic or hard to balance for.

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>>53364254

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>>53364156
Garagehammer table from yesterday. We set it up for my friend and I's first game of SW:A.

>>53363260
Use the heavy flamer I have on overwatch. Nobody is getting cucked exceot for that genestealer!

/40kg/ Discord: https://discord.gg/mjZcYAN

All are welcome, steadily growing, various channels are set up such as WIPs, fluff talk, listbuilding/tactics, and tabletop simulator.

>>53364320
>One heavy flamer

That'll do great. 6 shots if you're lucky, wounding on 3s, only a 5+ invuln save to protect them.

That'll probably kill 1 or 2!

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>>53364305
Got ya covered

>>53363618
That must suck, anon. I've never been to a LGS that sold MSRP or above. Maybe paint but thats it.

>>53364186
Welcome to 8e, friend.

Man, although it's unlikely that non-aligned legions will get anything new I really wish they got some cool toys. I feel bad for those who aren't in servitude towards on of the gods and are likely not getting cool new models. Can you imagine something like at the very least a new set of hq kits in the manner of exalted sorcerers? Dark apostles for WB (maybe with some sorcerer options for alt builds), Warsmiths with options for warpsmiths, or a more raptor/warp talon looking jump pack chaos lord for NL.
Hell, if they got new terminators and stuff like we did then WB could get possessed terminators, IW could get siege terminators like those from HH, and NL could get something or another like that fan concept of heavy raptors perhaps? I dunno
I feel bad for you guys.

>>53363470
I have a request anon senpai please draw pictures for the hivestrain azure story!

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Hivestrain_Azure

>>53364305
>>53364338
The thing needs to be like 1/3 shorter and 1/3 more broad (at least the crew/passenger section)

But I know realistic proportions are anathema to 40k

>>53363494
How do you know it hasn't happened on some world in the imperium?

>>53364338

nein.

https://www.zinge.co.uk/collections/vehicles/products/apc-vehicle-conversion-kit-2-x-axels-4x-27mm-wheels-and-2-upgrade-forest-sprues


this one is best

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Odds on Lychguard getting a nice rule for their shields as a defensive melee unit to counter stuff like super charge nids?

>>53364391
>tiny Tzeentch Daemon taking the form of an innocent animal goes around teaching young girls heretical sorcery so they can change the world for the better
>magical girl fights evil, tiny daemon summons bigger daemons to terrorize the populace, claim souls, and continue propping her up as a hero
>eventually becomes sorcererous queen of the planet
>has grown jaded and paranoid after years of conflict, summoning daemons on her own to watch people
>tiny daemon starts it all over and finds another girl to empower to take down the first

>>53363646
Could I get a link to take a look?

>>53364449
You mean like a 3++ invuln so they just don't die to the 80 attacks and then kill the genestealers afterwards?

>>53364483
>yfw Wraiths are even more bullshit in 8th

>>53363854
Pfft get on my level. I finished painting my dark eldar right before the GS2 leaks.

>>53364483
>80 attacks hitting on 2's and wounding on 5's against a 3++ and 4++
>deals roughly 4 wounds on average

huh, yeah assuming lychguard are 2 wounds each the genestealers are fucked.

>>53364186
>Don't reserves come at Turn 2+?
Not in this edition they don't

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/17/new-warhammer-40000-reserves-and-deep-striking-may17gw-homepage-post-4/

>"At the end of any of your Movement phases, set up the Trygon anywhere on the battlefield more the 9" away from any enemy models."

Genestealers have Movement 8. Swarmlord can give them an extra move during the shooting phase. Your do the math.

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>>53364254
Fingers crossed for plastic berzerkers before the end of the year.

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Two eldar related questions:

1) Could the Eldar Empire, at its height, repel the Tyranids?
2) Now that the Tyranids have shown up, why don't the Eldar take some inspiration from the Tyrands and GTFO the galaxy?

>>53364095
> I really didn't enjoy it
Why not? Was it something about the sculpt or color scheme?

>>53364095
He looks good to me.

>>53364449
I really hope so. I love lychguard so much, they're one of the reasons I started Necrons before also starting Thousand Sons once they got updated since space egyptians of both kinds are sexy
>that one scene in the world engine where the lychguard challenges the assault marine to a one on one in glorious melee combat

>>53364550
1) Likely they'd lose a few worlds early on but would pretty quickly change to hunting nids for sport and having enough psychic strength to just overpower the Shadow in the Warp

2)They probably assume they can take out the Tyranids eventually thanks to their remaining big guns from their glory days and manipulating other races and the Webway is only in the Milky Way

>>53364550
1) Most likely yes, though they might need to get off their asses to do so. During the reign of the Eldar they were mostly above any concerns of real conquest, which is why the physical remnants of their rein on the galaxy pretty much just amount to the webway.

With full control over the galaxy and nothing to oppose them though? I think they could do it. Especially since Orks were still around back then to trick into fighting the bugs.

2) I think they've pondered leaving beforehand, though the answer basically boils down to the risk that Chaos might follow them to another galaxy.

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>>53364156
It's a little dirty right now but this is where I play. I built this table in my attic and use it for games with friends that live nearby as the nearest store is pretty far away.

>>53364156
Love the old school ork dwellings on your shelf anon. Really excellent. Brings me back.

>>53364541
Aren't they already plastic? Regardless, I hope they get updated, look really nice, and have it like the rubric kit where there are both enough chainaxes or chainswords for everyone instead of a forced mix just so my bud has cool new guys to field and stuff

>>53364598
Oh my fucking god it flipped the image again

>>53364598
Pics of your antigravity generator?

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>>53363260
Counter-charge with my own 20-man unit of the best close combat troops in the game.

>>53364338
Looks like a bloody tonka truck

>>53364598
>>53364615
I don't think they use those in Australlia. They just go for magnets and straps to keep everything in place.

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>>53364320
Well shit I shoudl've brought more heavy flamers and sisters. GG anon I have been nidded.

>>53364611
Yeah, they're already plastic. I meant updated sculpts but it's late and I fucked up.

>>53364621
That's not a furry.

>>53364541
They're already plastic.

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>>53363854
>caring about what other people think
Get a load of this fag.

>>53364283
>>53364245
>>53364217

If they're characters, maybe they aren't targetable until they're really close as long as you've got enough smaller guys around.

>>53363480
Nechronica?

>>53364621
>>53364645
Oh wait you said troops, nevemrind.

>>53364589
>>53364595
Thanks for the answers, guys.

>>53364550
>Could the Eldar Empire, at its height, repel the Tyranids?
We don't know the tue scale of the Tyranid threat. GW has kept it a mystery as to how much worse it gets when it comes to the nids.
Also we don't really have an accurate idea of how powerful the Eldar Empire was at it's height.
But at a guess. Probably.

>Now that the Tyranids have shown up, why don't the Eldar take some inspiration from the Tyrands and GTFO the galaxy?
If all the Eldar left that would tomb king a whole load of peoples armies.

>>53364645
>he didn't see the GW facebook post
Blood for the Blood God, nigger.

>>53364550
They don't leave because the Webway doesn't extend beyond the galaxy proper, and going into the Warp is basically setting up a giant neon sign reading "Daemon Buffet". They're trapped.

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>>53364305
I always thought the taurox fits my Firstborn's aesthetic.

>>53364654
I believe you are using that word wrong have you read the dictionary?

>>53364658
Not familiar. Explain?

>>53364678
Craftworlds are fully self sustaining. They're basically colony ships already. It wouldn't be hard for them to just sail to another galaxy.

>>53363464
I hope what things they show are good for you, as well!

>>53364700
They'd lose any chance of restoring their empire without access to soul stones.

>>53364641
>>53364320
You can't Overwatch with flamers if they start outside its range.

>tfw just bought 8 fully built leman russ for 120 bongdollars


gonna run some heretics over in 8th thats for sure.


I hope dozer blades let you do more damage when you charge with a vehicle. Speaking of which does anyone know if you can charge with tanks after firing in 8th? that'd be doubly sweet.

>>53364256
Shame about the sevenhead though.

>>53364727
Isnt that just if the charge move started outside their range?

>>53364256
>Aeldari
Top kek

>>53364725
Which is unrelated to them not having access to the webway or not wanting to risk warp travel.

Getting to another galaxy would not be the hard part. It's whether or not another galaxy would be any better that's the question

>>53364739
What varieties?

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>>53363480
awful

>>53364725

This. A lot of people seem to forget the Eldar need soulstones which come from crone worlds or they get fucked. The only Eldar that can leave are Dark Eldar, and why do that when there is already easy prey where they are?

>>53364765
Yes, and...

>>53364320
>only one heavy flamer
U gonna get r8ped m8.

Did they find a way to deal with the encroaching tyranid threat that is literally larger in volume than our entire galaxy?

No?

Then they haven't advanced the narrative. Chaos is a secondary threat compared to a monster that is so large that it eats galaxies.

>>53364768
Well apart from the ridiculous amount of time it would take them, sure. Craftworlds being self sustaining also means there's no reason to leave to avoid tyranids.

>>53364786
You going to rest all your charges on rolling 9+ on 2d6?

>>53363854
Just play them if you enjoy them

>>53364798
More bait. As if we were short of it.

>>53364498
Wraiths lost access to reanimation protocols via the crypnotek harvest so they might actually be killable.

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>>53364697
Japanese RPG where you play zombie robot girls can get weapons, mutations and enhancments like tachikoma legs

>>53364700
They need the Webway for FTL. You have any idea how far apart galaxies are?

>>53364809
He can use the command reroll for what is essentially fleet. And who knows what charge bonuses they might get from stratagems and such.

>>53364785
Dark Eldar would need a fuckload of slave stock not to just wither away on the road to a new galaxy.

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>>53364685

taurox are gonna be OP in 8th.

>twin-linked auto-cannons and twin-linked gatling cannons on a BS4 Toughness 5/6 body.

>>53364775

2 forgeworld exterminators without sponsons
3 normal exterminators with sponsons
2 regular russes with sponsons
and I lied and theres 1 leman regular still on sprue.

I think I lucked out since exterminators are probs gonna be OP in 8th.

>>53364836
That's part of the advance move though and has no bearing on outranging flamer overwatch. Nids are fast as fuck, they'll reach cc quickly no doubt. I'm just pushing back on they idea that they'll be able to ignore flamers all that often.

>>53364850
How do you figure they'll be OP?

>>53364850
Now If only they didn't look pants on head retarded.

Which army do you anticipate will get cucked the most in 8e?

>>53364798

they'll probably plot device in the destruction of the Hive Mind.

Then to add more 'character' to nids like they did with Necrons a whole bunch of Tyranid Dynasties will pop up with their own quirky characters that will communicate and make fun of the lesser non-bug races of the galaxy.

Or they'll have the Queen of Blades-equivalent turn up and wrestle control of the hive and take them on a merry trip through the universe.

>>53364823
Just looked it up, and it looks pretty interesting. I can see the parallels, but not quite the intent I was shooting for (being a morale and propaganda weapon)

>nechronica made by the same guy who made maid rpg
>it_begins.jpg

>>53364887
None

>>53364785
They only need them to protect themselves from Slaanesh, and whether or not the Chaos gods are limited to the Milky Way varies within fluff.

>>53364807
I'd imagine they wouldn't do it to avoid Tyranids, but just the Chaos gods and a galaxy filled with war in general.

>>53364830
Eldar vessels are capable of travelling through the warp. It's just not usually done because it's suicidal.

That aside, it's more of a matter of not staying rather than getting to somewhere new.

>>53364550
1) I doubt it, Eldar couldn't even wipe out the Necrons with Old One backup, and only got their galaxy-spanning empire because the Necrons were taking a nap.

2) Because even Eldar need at least stars and such to power their craftworlds ? Tyranids were only able to cross the unimaginable distance between galaxies because they hybernated the whole way.

>>53364880
A single heavy flamer wont do much against 20 5++ models, though.

>>53364882

twin-linked is now double the shots. as well as not being able to be one shot by most anti-tank anymore.

unless they have a hefty price hike they'll be spammed into 5th ed leafblower all over again.

>>53364901
They'd just bring slaanesh with them.

>>53364888
Please stop before some cunt at geedubs gets an idea.

>>53364905
Sure. I'm just narrowly pointing out that "outranging flamers" is a mostly spurious argument.

>>53364642
If nothing else, you could convert your own with primaris marines and aos khorne bits.

>>53364923

dont worry theyll be able to release a cool new bunch of Tyranid overlord individual characters at 30$ a pop to compensate for the fluff rape.

Am I the only one who finds Tyranids extremely boring, like an army of videogame npcs? Even the Reapers from Mass Effect had more personality.

Any guesses on the wounds a Chaos Lord, sorcerer, librarian, captain etc.. might have in 8th?

>>53364934
I did not make that argument though. I simply pointed out that a 9 inch charge is not that hard to achieve with the command point system.

>>53364948
Good thing there's a bunch of different races to choose from.

so whats happening with base standardisation, is everything on a 20mm getting bumped up to 32mm?

>>53364949
6 wounds most likely.

>>53364798
They seem to be setting up the Necrons to stop, or at least, blunt Leviathan. So don't start jacking-off your bug dick too hard yet. That's in large part what Shield of Baal was about. Crons deciding that Nids are the greater priority.

>>53364850
Being a fast vehicle in 7th, what kind of movement do you think the prime will get in 8th?.

>>53364974

bases arent such a big deal with no templates

>>53364888
>Admech discovers a working, uncorrupted STC for a planet-sized can of bugspray
>in an ironic twist of fate, Tyranids get squatted
>laughingspacedorfs.pict

>>53364972
Yes, I just dont find the appeal.

>>53364967
You mean the re-roll? Well if you want to blow your one re-roll for the turn...

>>53364256
Stay out, Girlyman.

>>53365011
Getting your 20 80 attacks, 2+ hitting rending genestealers into combat seems like a good use to me.

>>53364974
Base sizes arent changing.

>>53365001
Not everyone wants personality. Much of the appeal comes from how others interact with them rather than tyranids themselves. Same reason people like xenomorphs.

>>53364991
Shield of Baal was about trying to prevent the Tyranids from consuming the Cryptus System. That failed. Then it became about doing as much damage as possible to limit their growth. That had moderate success but the tendril is still going strong.

>>53364999
you mean swatted

>>53364917
Doubt it'll be cheap.

Doed anyone know an easy way to make tank traps? I'm gonna want to stock up on them, otherwise a rampaging hoard of 35pt rhinos will stunlock my guardsmen.

>>53364949
Chaos Lord has 6, others we don't know, but probably similar.

>>53365024
Still less than half chance

>>53365031
I dont get it. Why would you want an army with no personality?

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>>53365059
Use your leftover sprues, cut them into equally long parts and glue them together. There you go.

>>53365075
Because they look cool.

>>53365059

You can probably buy them cheap off eBay or just use leftover sprues and stick them together.

>>53365071
Thats what the reroll is for. It's a gamble, but it's worth taking IMO.

>>53365059
>>53365081
Egg cartons work well too.

>>53365050
Or, Exterminator pattern Autocannons won't be heavy 8. Heck, they'll probably stay the same, Heavy 4 with rerolls.

>>53365082
Debatable, and other armies also look cool and have personality as well.

>>53365081
Tank traps were made from left overs in most situations irl so I approve.

>>53365059
That would actually be kind of hilarious
>vast line of nothing but rhinos crests the hill
>METAL BAWKSES.webm
>rather than stopping to offload marines, the APCS plow directly into the traitor line
>once in melee, they keep reversing and ramming into/rolling over cultists
>it's *literally* nothing but rhinos

>>53365098
And if you don't care about personality that doesn't matter.

>>53365075
Because fuck you, we're a god damn force of nature.

>>53365059
You can make some out of L angle plasticard pretty easily.

>>53365081
nice

>>53365121
I'd like to think that's what Rhinos and Land Raiders are for in the first place, at least in a huge battle. Plow deep into the heart of the battle and unleash a load of Assault Marines/Terminators to take out a priority target, meanwhile driving over loads of mooks who try to stop you.

>>53365126
But why would someone not care about personality? We're going in circles. Looking cool is not an argument for not caring about personality, those arent mutually exclusibe or even related to each other.

>>53365127
Chaos is also a force of nature. So are Orks. Heck, even Necron weapons technically are.

And all of them have personality as well.

>>53365121
Hence the tank traps.

They'll be in front of my Aegis, so I will have an unassailable gunline of 3+ save Conscripts. Just need to put a commisar behind them.

>>53365166
I just like the aesthetic I don't give a shit about their personalities.

>>53365166
Nids "personality" is not having personality

>>53365166
Not in the same way, Anon.

We're the hurricane, the earthquake. The devouring swarm. We don't need personality for that.

>>53365166
What makes you say they have no personality?

>>53365166
This is top tier shitposting. Well done good sir.

>>53364992

dunno like an extra 4" maybe.

>>53365179
>i dont give a shit about personality
But why. Being reduced to an npc in every game has to get boring evetually. Even if you win it makes a boring story.

>>53365084
I think most people will just accept the flamer overwatch and guarantee the charge. Again, "I'll just outrange the flamers" is a mostly spurious argument.

I am currently watching if the emperor had a tex t to spech device drunk of f my ass with gin, and I haven' t laiuged this hard in fucking year s
Holy shit i love this

Anyone know how to get in contact with Zhanchui the recaster?

I want to order some eldar shit from him.

>>53365166
Wait, wasn't one of the biggest complaints neckbeards had about Newcrons that they had gotten a personality?

>>53365084
No, it's less than half chance WITH the reroll. Without it you only have a 28% chance.

>>53365201
Hasn't so far.

>>53365209
Is THAT Z's name? Good to know.

>>53365210

That, and they raped previous lore and turned the c'tan into pokemon.

>>53364727
Is that a thing now?
It always used to be that any kind of charge brings them into whatever range you want.

>>53365223
C'tan raped the plot when they were written into the setting in the first place. Seems like a fair trade to me.

>>53365181
That's not how it works. You either have one or you dont.

>>53365182
Except you're none of that. You're a swarm of man-eater space cockroaches. Orks and Daemons are technically more 'primal' since the former a mushrooms and the latter raw emotion.

>>53365183
The fact that they are a mindless swarm that is always doing the same thing everywhere.


>>53365191
>everyone who disagrees with me is shitposting
Wow.

>>53365243

How?

>>53364850
Taurox
>Just TL Autocannon
>BS3

Taurox Prime
>TL Autocannon & Gatling cannon (not TL)
>BS4
>Fast
>70pts

I look forward to seeing this 'OP' of yours.

>>53364887
Sisters, as always

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>>53365206

>>53365201
It's a power fantasy, just like literally every other army in this game. Tyranids are expendable, and above all these silly notions of glory and honor. They don't give two shits about your armies, your pleas for mercy. Chaos relishes suffering, but to Tyranids it's just the irritating mewling of their food.

>>53365247
>Mindless swarm

Now I know you're shitposting.

>>53365177
>3+ save conscripts

I assume you're not talking about 8th ed.
'Cos if so... Buddy you's in trouble.

>>53363618
>literally every place I look online besides GW is 10-20% off msrp
This is why physical stores are dying and they deserve it.

>>53365203
An argument I never made kek.

>>53365210
I thought most people liked newcrons over their past iterations.

>>53365217
Do you play narrative games?

>>53364892
Well yeah, you are wanting to subvert the edgy grimdark, but it will just loop back around if it takes off, especially with the disposal tidbit you added

>>53365210
>>53365223
It's not like anything aside from Lords, Crypteks and Overlords has a personality anyway. Everything is still slaved to the Overlords will.
And having Chaos-God-Tier beings stomp around in realspace was a mistake anyway.

>>53365283
Yeah I play narrative games.

>>53365275
What, you think Aegis will have higher than a 2+ modifier? I'd love that, but it'd be pretty op mang.

>>53365248
Tons of fucking shit in the setting became "C'tan did it." The Deceiver was suddenly behind everything. To the point it became a fucking meme. Shit sucked.

>>53365269
Not even that, you could almost compare it to white blood cells getting rid of bacteria and how aware you are of your body doing that.

That is how insignificant the mortal races are to the Hivemind. Or should be, at least. It is only a matter of time before GW turns the Hivemind into another saterday morning cartoon villain.

>>53365251

- Twin-linked Taurox gatling cannon..........10 pts


F U C K O F F


>>53365248

man, C'tan were like the only Cthulu-esque horror in 40k and they fugging ruined them.

>>53365269
That's what I'm saying, they're just animals feeding. Like a swarm of space ants. What's so interesting about them?

>>53365274
Are you just going to reply to all my posts with a shitposting accusation? Because THAT would be shitposting.

>thinking of taking AM allies
>found the Cyclops on Forge World
A C U T E
Is it any good? How long should I expect to have to wait for rules for it in 8th?

>>53364885
It's grown onto me honestly.
One of those "looks better in person" models, kinda how I was feeling about the leman russ till I saw it in person.

>>53365321
Because you're ignoring that there's a super-intelligence controlling the swarm.

>>53365283
I was responding to:
>>You can't Overwatch with flamers if they start outside its range.

Who are you?

>>53365312

Provide examples or stop posting.

>>53365297

>It's not like anything aside from Lords, Crypteks and Overlords has a personality anyway. Everything is still slaved to the Overlords will.
That does nothing to mitigate things.

>And having Chaos-God-Tier beings stomp around in realspace was a mistake anyway.
You don't have an understanding of what the c'tan were.

>>53364641
>masses of flamers being a weakness of the bugs and a way to ward off charges
This feels so right. So fucking right.
My bugs will be burnt to a crisp on many an occasion but it will FEEL right that that's a legit weakness to them.

>>53365301
Then you probably root for the other team then.

>>53365323
all fw models will have rules on the release of 8th

>>53365247
Well I mean considering the "personality" of most armies is either dumb, 2edgy4grimdark, or direct rips of other concepts some times less is more. If you disagree, cool, but understand nobody really gives a shit what your opinion is.

>>53365315
Well, yeah, GW will probably fuck it up.
But the whole otherworldly nature, the idea that this galaxy full of life and war and drama, filled with beings of unimaginable power and scope, is the Tyranid equivalent of a galactic gas station.

>>53365346
Not really? I'll grant you a nids vs nids campaign would be fairly boring to an outsider, but everything else is fine.

>>53365321
>shitposting
actually, that was me who thought you were shitposting earlier. That's a different anon.

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Before 8th Ed, I want to go out with a bang in a 1k pts tournament in 2 weeks.

C&C on this list please. Yes its super cancer/cheese, but I just want to wipe the board with any possible opponent in 1k.

>>53365339
Never even implied that. The swarm can be mindless and still have a Hive Mind, those arent mutually exclusive.

>>53365342
Just some guy~

>>53365321
I personally like the alien intelligence behind their activity. Yes, they're mindless bugs, but they also perform unexpected deadly attacks. Hit undefended supply lines, surprise backwater planets and generally act mysteriously smartly in the face of organised defense. I think that's really cool and like thinking about what my bugs are doing relative to the overarching invasion by attacking this particular force.

>>53365380
>Mindless
>Has a hive mind

Anon, please. Explain.

>>53365375
Very unique and original list :^)

More seriously, you'll be pretty fucking fine.

>>53365393
Ants are mindless but have a uniform structure and cohesion. They are merely mechanical action in an organic environment. They aren't just dead matter but they are by no means some higher lifeform.

>>53365290
Fair cop, and could be interesting nonetheless.
Hell, the first and largest difficulty would likely be the Magos finding a way to publish his work without being immediately decried as a Heretek, once the Munitorum/Imperium at large notices the sudden spike in munitions.

Also, how to make female Skitarii?

>>53365386
The whole mystery aspect is one of the cooler parts of Tyranids. One day they act like beasts, falling upon each other in a feeding frenzy. The next day they dig below your foundations and cut your power cables.

>>53364685
Fuck you. I want a taurox now

>>53365380
>>53365411

You're ignoring the part where the conduits of the Hive Mind have tactical minds that, in fluff, match or even exceed the best tactical minds in the Imperium.

>>53365375
>winning tabletop games is the only thing that makes me feel a sense of achievement

Clean your room and sort yourself oot.

>>53365359
Other factions have a myriad of personalities, including the ones you can create yourself. Tyranids have none, you cant even give them your own because they're all mindless puppets.

>>53365368
Why? It's always the same mission, eat things. For the same purpose, gather biomass. At least the others can have spoils to reap, people to save, glory to earn, etc.

>>53365373
Noted. I'm not shitposting though, screaming shitpost without arguing back is the real shitposting. Trust me, I'm one of the most infamous shitposters in this general so I know a thing or two about it.

>>53365312
>Tons of fucking shit in the setting became "C'tan did it."
And now everything in the setting is "Chaos did it." At least back then they had some competition.

>>53365344
Eldar War in Heaven. Just google "C'tan did it" newfag.

>>53365448
Same goal, but they have plenty of different ways to achieve it.

>>53365417
They already exist, make em like you make any skitarii. The main one in The Zheng Cipher is a female skitarii

>>53365386
But other factions can do that too and still have a personality. What makes Nids better?

>>53365393
The Hive Mind is not their mind, it's a psychic getsalt that controls them liek puppets. It's not that hard to grasp.

>>53365443
That is not a personality though. Just tactical calculations a computer could do. They dont feel emotions for example.

>>53365344
>That does nothing to mitigate things.
But why? Warriors, Immortals, even Lychguard are just following their programs. They don't have any free will, and act only on the whims of a Lord/Overlord.

>You don't have an understanding of what the c'tan were.
What were they back then? Genuinely asking, I only know the stuff about "Rivaling the Chaos Gods in power, but in realspace" thing for their older fluff, which seems kinda dumb if they have models that can be killed, and makes you wonder why Necrons didn't just run over the galaxy with such a force behind them. Nothing, absolutely nothing should ever be able to stop such beings from just tearing the galaxy apart, but you could still kill them on the table. The power discrepancy seems just too massive to justify them this way.

>>53365448
Oh, people think you're shitposting because you seem to be wholly incapable of comprehending that people enjoy different kinds of power fantasies. They don't believe that someone could have that little self awareness and just assume you're pretending to not get it to trigger people.

>>53365448
I think the different hives had some personality ingrained in their strategies of consumption. Behemoth would smash in real hard from the get go with heavy hitters, Kraken likes to sneak around heavy defenses and eat through soft parts of the galaxy, Leviathan had that whole "broken communications and confusion" aesthetic going, and that can really add character to your hive fleets behaviour, like how third edition nids had the custom fleet maker.

>>53365458
That's how the setting was written originally and it was worked into everyone else's fluff. Chaos was intended to be the primary antagonist. In an effect to make Oldcrons matter the codex author just went "fuck your fluff, we C'tan now".

>>53365467
So can other factions while still having a personality.

>>53365417
>Also, how to make female Skitarii?
They're heavily cyborgized and wear helmets/breastplates. The skitarii models could all be female and we'd never know.

>>53365510
You seem to be stuck on that point.

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>>53364745
Jokes on you anon I'm just some wanderer.

>>53365510
Some people like that there are no individuals. Are you really so autistic that you can't understand that?

>>53365321
What's so interesting about a bunch of Saturday-morning cartoon villains/edgy retards too stupid to realize signing up with literal daemons makes you the villain?

>>53365510

define personality pls.

>>53365448
You can create your own Nids dude, they can have a history of victories and defeats, Unique Hive Fleets that have their own methods based on the direction of their Norn Queens. Hell with special nids like Old One Eye and stuff you can have storied "characters" within your fleet. It's really not that hard unless you are actively looking to not enjoy it on any level, which is pretty apparent.

>>53365500
Idiot, I'm trying to find out why have THAT power fantasy instead of other, more complete one. And you're not necessarily having a power fantasy just because you're playing 40k, most Guard players would probably agree.

>>53365503
>namefag
Didn't even read your post.

>>53365269
>but to Tyranids it's just the irritating mewling of their food.

Actually the Hive Mind possesses a sense of superiority and malice. It's also vengeful and spiteful.

>>53365496
>They dont feel emotions for example.
In one of the novels they mention that the Hive Mind can feel rage so that's not true. (this fact buttblasts Tyranid players)

>>53365496
The Hive Mind has a personality. The Dante novel goes into detail about how it's formed a specific grudge with the Blood Angels over time and has set out to exterminate them.

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>>53364550
>2) Now that the Tyranids have shown up, why don't the Eldar take some inspiration from the Tyrands and GTFO the galaxy?

The others are idiots for not giving the proper answer. The idea of leaving the galaxy was reviewed by the Eldar. They saw it to be pointless since Chaos Gods, who knows no limits, care not for space and time, would simply follow them or just be there waiting for them. You cannot run from Chaos. It's omnipresent.

(picture related).

One of the main things with Tyranids is that when you play them, you are literally the Hive Mind. The snivelling prey sees this as a fight for survival, but you just see it as a small trifle. You toss away hundreds of lives, because they really truly don't matter to you.

>>53365461

Tried, got no relevant results.
Provide an argument or fuck off.

>>53365497

>I only know the stuff about "Rivaling the Chaos Gods in power, but in realspace" thing for their older fluff,
That's not a thing.

> and makes you wonder why Necrons didn't just run over the galaxy with such a force behind them.
They did.

>Nothing, absolutely nothing should ever be able to stop such beings from just tearing the galaxy apart, but you could still kill them on the table. The power discrepancy seems just too massive to justify them this way.
Christ, a c'tan you put on the table is basically just a metal container they put themselves in.
Destroying their body just means they have to ethereal their way back to a tomb world for a new one.

>>53365553
>>53365555
Yriel also made is shriek in pain, and it hates the Iyandeni.
It also tried to assassinate Tigurius because he's a baller who can read it's moves and that annoyed it.

>>53365483
>>53365519
I don't expect you to read back up the reply chain, but that's actually kind of the point; they don't look like it, and I want to ditch the breastplates and respirators so that they do (ref. here: >>53363480)
I'm willing to learn greenstuffing to make it happen, if there aren't any convenient models to kitbash, but that cog mechanicus is kind of a pain in the ass for my purposes.

>>53365549
Well, of course. If your hamburger bit you, you'd be pretty pissed too. It's not above vengeance, it's an organic being, not a robot.

>>53365497
>but in realspace" thing for their older fluff, which seems kinda dumb if they have models that can be killed, and makes you wonder why Necrons didn't just run over the galaxy with such a force behind them.

The C'tan did run over everything back then but were tricked into infighting....why the fuck am I spoonfeeding your lazy ass. Download the Oldcron codex and read the lore. If you got questions then come back here.

>>53365524
We will all be until it is refuted or answered.

>>53365533
But WHY like that? If you're unable to answer then it's not so much me being autistic and more you trying to show off and fucking up in the process.

>>53365535
There are so many flavors of said cartoon villains that the answer would vary greatly. And not all of them side with Daemons, and siding with said Daemons does not necessarily make you the villain.

>>53365537
Like having emotions, individual hopes/dreams/way of acting, view of the world etc. When everything acts thinks and feels the same you end up with an army of robots (or cockroaches in this case).

>>53365539
Disengage from the autist.

>>53365547
>my power fantasy is better
Really, you don't see the appeal of being a massive, otherwordly entity who directs your minions to conquer and devour the pathetic prey that tries to stop you? Have you never played Total War, Civilization, literally any strategy game?

So reading A Thousand Sons, man Magnus is an arrogant son of a bitch who thought he could do no wrong.

WTF I love Space Wolves now.

>>53365497
If I'm not mistaken, the Oldcrons DID exterminate pretty much all life in the galaxy, then hunkered down and went to sleep millennia before the Eldar moved in and set up shop, only to reawaken in the 41st millennium.

>>53365624
I can play all the same games, the aesthetic is neat and the personality doesn't matter. That's all the reason i need.

>>53365624
>Like having emotions, individual hopes/dreams/way of acting, view of the world etc. When everything acts thinks and feels the same you end up with an army of robots (or cockroaches in this case).
see >>53365587 >>53365555 >>53365577
individual tyranids don't have personality because they're the fingers of the Hive Mind. The Hive Mind has a personality and that's who you play.

>>53365624
The Hive Mind has all your requisites for personality.

>>53365624
>siding with said Daemons does not necessarily make you the villain

Anyone who genuinely believes this is retarded.

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Putting up a photo of my decommissioned sentinels before I glue them upright.

Rip rekt vehicles.
Now you can disintegrate into harmless giblets like the Tyranids do.

>>53365661
>the Hive Mind has a personality

That of a scrubby, crybaby bitch.

>>53365553
That's a very poor display when you considering the Hive Mind is like a rule in the actual game. If you could field and play with it then maybe, but you can't.

>>53365555
That sounds more like a strategic decision to counter a threat than a personal butthurt against the BAs.

>>53365577
I don't see the appeal of being the equivalent of a lizard or a spider following normal feeding protocols.

>>53365594
I mean you could always just use female heads, do you explicitly need female form for your piece-meal assembled wrecks of former humans that are basically made to be marched willingly into a meat grinder while subjected to things like your own weapon emitting lethal levels of radiation?

I can understand aesthetic but it's pretty up front in the fluff that skitarii aren't exactly uniform in construction.

I mean on some level you ideally want to convey they are

>>53365661
Hive Tyrants are distinct individual thought patterns within the swarm that can be spat back out again whenever necessary. They share the same goal, but not experiences/memories/preferences.

>>53365644
Just wait until you've read Prospero Burns, where it turns out Leman Russ is an even more arrogant son of a bitch on top of being the biggest hypocrit the universe has ever known.

And in the HH book Inferno from FW Leman Russ is even more of a dick, just wanting to see blood despite Valdor of all people desperately trying to reign him in and salvage the situation.

>>53365702
People have tried explaining to you. It doesn't get through, so either you will never understand or you're trolling.

>>53365702
>I don't see the appeal
That's the problem, yes. If you don't see it, even when people explain it to you, why do you keep asking?

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>>53364095
Painting an assault sergeant for my legion of the damned

>>53365644
>hate Thousand Sons for their sorcery
>uses psykers forbidden by Nikea

>disgusted by the Thousand Sons' mutations
>*wulfen howl in distance*

>>53365697
What makes you think vehicles won't be wrecked or exploded in 8th?

>>53365321
theyre an implacable cosmic horror you nigger. the xenomorph isnt good for its personality its good because its scary as shit and only wants to face rape you and make new xenos/murderfuck you with its penis mouth. in that same way nids are scary since they just want to eat you and theyll evolve to your tactics to make terrible ways to eat you/fuck your women into submission and make hybrids

>>53365702
In essence Tyranids are what people would call an "NPC race."
NPC races are races played by people who dislike character and compelling narratives and would rather just play a third string villain.

>>53365539
Wasn't Old One Eye retconned? I hear about the Swarmlord being their only character all the time for example.

>>53365642
My point is that all the other factions can do that without being mindless puppets. Did you even read the reply chain before sperging out?

>>53365650
Then you dont play narrative games, because it'd be the same story all the time. That or you do and just really like routine, which is weird.

>>53365661
>you play the hive mind
Where is the model? Where are the rules? No, you play as its minions. Also, the Hive Mind is just like any other animal so it doesn't really have a personality. It's more akin to a rouge AI too good at what it was designed for.

>>53365665
Proof? The fluff I've read states it's just a mindless animal who eats to evolve.

>>53365675
>everyone who disagrees with me is retarded
Not an argument, though a prime exaple of shitposting.

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Was able to snag a leftover box of Death Masque at a local hobby shop!

I only play Eldar. What should I do with the spess mehreenz that come along with this box/

>>53365800
>caring about the "deep lore" of your plastic army men

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> Have $53 in store credit on the GW webstore
> Play Space Marines
> Want something new to build/paint
> Don't know what to buy

Suggestions?

>>53365719
>>53365776
Magnus damned all of humanity, forever, out of sheer arrogance and refusal to listen. Russ did nothing wrong.

Does betrayal of calth make a decent generic starting chaos force? I have plenty of imperial marines. Wife wants to start chaos.

>>53365276
>They deserve it because they have to devote their limited selfspace to taking up the product (which could be used for other things instead of warhammer), having enough product onhand and instore that people want to purchase, AND have the other expenses of running a store, instead of being able to just shove everything in a warehouse and not give a shit cause it's all done elsewhere, all of which results in the physical store needing to charge more to recoup the losses they're taking just from stocking this shit.
The places with the discounts likely have a LOT of people buying shit and thus can afford to keep things in stock.
Now, the ones going over MSRP, they're being stupid as fuck because they know damn well that GW has an online store.

>>53365776
I mean the book says the two Legions are surprisingly similar in a bunch of ways.

Dislike outsiders, a focus on "magic" as a part of their cultures, a mutation problem, superstitions.

>>53365829
Primaris Space Marines.

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>>53365697

>>53365782
Is correct, it appears than can and will be wreckable.

>>53365807
Proof has been presented to you regularly, you refuse to acknowledge it/you are trolling.

>>53365838
If she wants Deathguard wait for the new starter set for 8th

>>53365809
Resell on sprue for profit. Or just paint and assemble anyway cause painting and assembling is really fun.

>>53363967
They still do

>>53365807
>Where is the model? Where are the rules?
... The PLAYER is the hivemind. The guy moving the models around, making the conscious decision to toss the worthless guants into the engine intakes.

>>53365807
>Where is the model? Where are the rules? No, you play as its minions.
No, you thick fucking berk, YOU (You). The fat fuck in the pants moving plastic army men around on a table. You are self-inserting as the controlling conscious of the Hive Mind. I haven't touched a single Tyranid in my life and I can understand this. Do you unironically have autism?

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>>53364254
Cadia *is* dead...

>>53365829

That pic always triggers me because they put in the green rod before painting.

Anyway, the anser to your question is to wait a month and buy supahmahreens

>>53363967
>>53365858
Harlequins don't get possessed.

>>53365838
We where getting that for sure. But if BoC is a good buy to help her force I don't want to skip it

>>53365838

Dark Vengeance sets are going cheap as shit right now because everyone is trying to offload them in anticipation of 8th ed. Might not be a bad purchase, you could trim the wings from the bikes and sell all of the other DA stuff.

>>53365830
Magnus was an arrogant prick who deserved what he got. That doesn't change the fact that Russ and the Wolves are stupid hypocrites.

>>53364816
How is it bait? Look at how nids are always depicted and then look me in the eye and honestly tell me that chaos is the main threat. In the grand scheme of things Gathering Storm was basically just a side story. That little sidebar about genestealer cults on eartg is more important than anything else that has happened recently.

>>53365875
Meant for>>53365856

>>53365720
Because other factions do all it does while also having a personality, so by logic it loses its appeal due to being inferior to the other choices.

>>53365730
Because I'm a naturally curious person who likes getting to the bottom of things.

>>53365796
That makes more sense than previous explainations. But other factions are scarier, why choose Nids?

>>53365800
Why would they dislike those things and play a boring NPC faction then?

>>53365865

I don't want to wait a month.

Also, you are absolutely correct, people who don't sub assemble are just making life harder for themselves.

>>53365776
Shaman powers fueled by the Wolf Spirit of Fenris =/= Sorcery powered by the Dark Powers of the Warp.

>>53365830
If Russ would have put Magnus and the Thousand Sons in chains and transported them back to Terra, like what he was suppose to, rather than going on a fucking WOLFWOLFWOLF rampage the whole situation could have been salvaged.

And then, after making it back to Terra getting taken in the rear dry by the Alpha Legion the whole way, Leman Russ didn't stay put and wait so he could defend the Imperial Palace. Oh no, he decided the best course of action was to go and try to 1v1 Horus. With just what was left of his Space Wolves, no other support. Against Horus, who had more than one legion at his command.

Russ should have been put down like the dog he is the instant the Emperor found him.

>>53365830
Magnus was arrogant, but he was still really just manipulated. He was a weak link that chaos took advantage of. Whereas Russ was just as arrogant, and a total hypocrite as well. While Magnus tried to do what he thought was right, Russ is just a dick.

>>53365844
>superstitions
I agree with you until that point. The KSons have nothing but disdain for superstition.

>>53365891
>Why would they dislike those things and play a boring NPC faction then?

Some people are born with brain damage or gain it later in life through various accidents, and this attracts them to NPC races.

>>53365906
Channeling warp juice from an unknown warp entity somehow imprisoned inside Fenris surely doesn't sound heretical huh.

I mean they did the same on Caliban, and look how well that ended.

>>53365914
Ahriman has his brother's symbol that he touches when confronted by daemonic forces, the Rune Priest points it out and Ahriman concedes the point that he still might have superstitions. Might just be him though.

>>53365809
Sell them or trade them to get more knife ears

>>53365891
There is no bottom of the opinion barrel. You can't get down to the fucking objective truth here. Just because you like some faction with edgelords or mary sues doesn't make it automatically a "correct" opinion.

>>53365918
Some deep cut trolling. :^)