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I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING ABOUT THESE FUCKO'S. PLEASE EXCUSE

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I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING ABOUT THESE FUCKO'S. PLEASE EXCUSE YET ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THE MARINES PRIMARIS, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT.

LOOK CLOSELY AT THIS DESIGN. LOOK CLOSELY AT THESE MODELS. WHAT DO YOU NOTICE?

THAT'S RIGHT. TINY PAULDRONS.

THEY SHRUNK THE SPACE MARINES GODDAMNED PAULDRONS
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>>53339075
No, they're the exact same size as regular marine pauldrons, so they're just smaller comparatively on the jumbo-marines.
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>>53339075
FOR COMPARISON, HERE'S AN ILLUSTRATION OF A STANDARD TAC SQUAD. THEIR FUCKING PAULDRONS ARE HUGE LIKE THE EMPEROR INTENDED, AND COME ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GODDAMN ELBOW, WHILE THE PRIMARIS PAULDRONS STOP A GOOD GODDAMN 6-10 INCHES ABOVE THE ELBOW

THEIR ELBOWS ARE EXPOSED LIKE FUCKING PAULDRONLESS SLUTS

THIS CANNOT STAND
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>>53339092
LOOK AT THIS FUCKER. LOOK AT HIM. LOOK AT HIS GLORIOUS PAULDRONS.

IS THIS THE FUTURE YOU WANT FOR THE IMPERIUM? A FUTURE WITH INCREASINGLY SMALL PAULDRONS?
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>>53339092
Is your keyboard broken? Are you alright?
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>>53339111
HERE'S A SIDE BY SIDE SO YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELVES

THEY STREAMLINED THE PAULDRONS. ALL IS FUCKING LOST
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>>53339131
I LEAVE YOU WITH AN IMAGE OF THE IDEAL, A PICTURE OF A TRUE WARRIOR OF THE EMPEROR. YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT THIS IS WHAT PERFORMANCE LOOKS LIKE
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>>53339131
Both have the elbow exposed.
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>>53339075
At least they get another pair on their knees
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>>53339075
I'm cool with this. The giant pauldrons are really dumb and look bad imo.
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>>53339131
>still posting this shop
Why.
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>>53339075
>smaller pauldrons

These new guys just keep getting better and better.
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>>53339075
The big pauldrons looked cartoonishly absurd, especially when they were extravagant ones on veterans and heroes.

Now they are a bit more reasonable and save on having to replace shoulder kits.
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>>53339873
How much will the new marines cost anyway?
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>>53339735
>shop
>he actually believes the size discrepancy is smaller
Boy oh boy you're in for a surprise
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>>53339075
They look a lot better like this.
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>>53339075
Theyre the same size you retard
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>>53339115
He thinks he's Mister Rage.
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>>53340659
>GW says they're bigger
>"No they aren't!"
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I get that GW wanted to move closer to true scale Marines. I wanted it! But this just wasn't the right way to go about it. I think they shot themselves in the dick with this.
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>>53340725
Yeah, poor GW, now all they have left is all the money people will be throwing at them.
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>tfw you're slowly getting convinced there actually are shill threads on /tg/
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>>53340725
How? They will be supporting the current line of Space Marines.
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>>53340725
The fluff could have been better, but I think the models are the best possible options they could have come up with. They're truescale, the pauldrons are less fucking ridiculous, and they're completely compatible with old SM customization options. Probably least frustrating basic troop model replacements they've ever released.
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>>53341103
I'd have been nice if they'd admitted out the gate that they're basic troop model replacements, saving us the awkward shift over the next couple of years, but you can't have everything.
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>>53339075
look at the old and new marine armour, pauldrons are smaller because new marines have built in neckguards, before pauldrons provided additional protection to the vulnerable seal between head and torso.
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>>53341166
That would have been a terrible business decisions with Horus Heresy miniatures being as popular as they are.
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>>53340692
GW said the pauldrons are the same so you can use older ones you git.
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>>53341219
This is an incredibly valid point, thanks for bringing it up.
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>>53341220
And they said the dudes are bigger and that they're not entirely compatible with existing SM kits, outside of a few bits.
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>>53339131
>they are the same size
so all my extra pauldrons are still usable?
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>>53339090
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Are all primarines from the Ultramarine chapter? even if they're in other chapters? I'd like them to keep the ultramarine color and change the shoulder pad to fit the chapter they're in, or change the color of the armor but keep the ultramarine shoulderpad
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>>53339873
bdz
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>>53341329
I'm pretty sure that was the intention, yes.
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>>53341285
Hmm well i hope the deathwatch pads can be used with em
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>>53341329
I think even the heads are still usable, in case you're a cock sucking faggot who doesn't like that awesome MK IV like helmet, because GW also thinks in pillow biters.
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>>53341365
>Are all primarines from the Ultramarine chapter?

No.

>even if they're in other chapters?

No.

Read the Warhammer Community articles about them, it explains it all.
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>>53341419
They can. Helmets too. Gotta make use of those chapter conversion kits.
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>>53341365
Just because they all use Guillimans geneseed doesn't mean they're Ultramarines in heart
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>>53339075
>>53339092
Fucking finally, that shit looked retarded.

Now all we have to do is get Vlad to ditch this insane shit, and wargames will be free from the scourge of cumbersome, unaesthetic pauldrons. This may be a difficult task, seeing as he canonically wore this armour to his wedding.
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I honestly prefer these proportions over the current ones. They actually look like they have dignity now.
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>>53339075
>That dude with Guilliman's pose
Daw
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>>53339111
Yes?
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Anime ruined me, the more I think in current Guilliman the more I imagine him like pic related

Gonna commit senpukyaku
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>>53341699
Holy shit I actually kinda can see the resemblance.
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>>53341699
I don't get the reference
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>>53341877
Old and battered hero who suffered a life threatening injury that left him pretty much unable to fight anymore so he just became a symbol of peace but has to pick the mantle once again and fight the unstoppable force of villains that are threatening the world. He's generous, stoic and with an incredible sense of justice but always has a smile in his face because above everything else he loves helping others. His motto is Plus Ultra (go beyond).
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>>53339873
Why not just scrap all marines, full stop.
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Please refrain from calling the God Emperor's holy Angels of Death "fuckos," citizen.
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>>53339075
post the full image you fuck.

Nu-marines in the middle, standards to the right and left...to use your methods ALL THE SAME SIZE. The difference is literally a millimeter at best. These Marines fold into standard armies pretty well judging by this image.
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>>53339075

They use the exact same pauldrons and size of helmet

They are interchangeable, it's been said officially by GW
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>>53342160
>A milimeter
You're blind
Look at the normal marine with red helment in the left, now lookt at the immediately next to him primarine, look the difference in height
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In gonna go backwards and get some of those sweet sweet metal marines that are way smaller
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>>53341535
>realism
The cancer killing Warhammer.
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>>53342183
Yes, there is a difference, a negligible one. you could even put the difference down to pose. Even looking at those two, who are admittedly the best for compare since they are almost touching bases, the difference is like a quarter of the head more for the nu, maybe. One or two millimeters at best. Were not looking at 3 inch figures here. If these were 3 inch we'd see more of a difference.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/15/primaris-space-marines-faq-may15gw-homepage-post-2/


"Are the kits compatible with existing Space Marine kits?

Good Question. There are certainly elements of the existing Space Marines kits that will be cross-compatible, while the new armour mark means that some parts won’t mix as easily. Shoulder pads and helmets are the same scale, and will still work, whereas the legs, torso and arms are different, and not quite as interchangeable. In terms of the Primaris sets themselves, you’ll have loads of fun kit-bashing them."

At least read their Warhammer Community articles to keep up to speed, OP and other anons on this thread
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>>53342279
with the new marines using any parts, particularly the head and shoulders, the difference in height is going to be tiny, as in the picture above, almost unnoticeable among the more standard marines.
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>>53342364
Are you retarded? The heads and shoulders on the original models are oversized, so on the Primaris Marines they're actually proportioned well. There's no way it's going to be as stupidly small as you think.
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>>53342267
It's not realism. It's verisimilitude.

If you don't understand the difference, you need to go back to school.
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>>53342601
>verisi-
THIS WORD HAS TOO MANY SULLABLES! APOLOGISE!
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>>53341245
>>53339873
>tfw ork
LAUGHING AT YOUR PETTY CURSES
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>>53339873
>>53341245
Fuck off with this shit
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Gonna buy lots of them from chinaman and use them as normal marines with aquila helmets and if possible normal backpacks
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I am not sure how I feel about the fluff.

But the actual models are great.
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>>53342733
Gork & Mork are the eldar's gods of peace and tranquility
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the pauldrons are the exact same size, the guy is just larger

this is so numarines can use shoulder pad upgrades
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>>53339873
Faggot.
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>>53339873
>>53339873
>>53339873

BEGONE THOT
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#pauldronequality
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>>53340885
The problem is that these AREN'T true scale marines, they're super duper marines with separate rules and fluff that are closer to the scale that regular marines are usually portrayed as.
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>>53343721
That's not really a problem. It makes sense form the Imperium to improve their Space Marines since Chaos has been improving theirs with Warp dickery.
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>>53341166
They have far too many models in old marine scale to do this suddenly, and you know as well as I do that there would be untold numbers of autists who would rage at their entire marine collection being obsolete in an instant. This way they can encourage people to gradually buy new scale and update their army over time. Gw already confirmed that the primaris process can transform current marines not just new recruits, so expect to see all marine models (including heroes like Dante, calgar, Lukas, etc.).
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>>53343051
He's also a fat dog.
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>>53341492
>>53341492
But that's wrong. they have the geneseed from whatever primarch their chapter is from.

Gulliman ain't that much of a dick, he's like....a quarter of that dick.
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>>53342954

I hope NuMarines come in boxes of 10 for around $30. I won't buy them at that price point, but eventually I can find $20 lots on eBay and finally make truescale Black Templars just like the comics.
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>>53343721
I kinda dislike this too.

GW should have just bitten the bullet and make these the new Mehreen models.
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>>53344058
The endless bitching would have been too much to bear.
I mean just look at what we've had the last few weeks on /tg/.
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>>53339075
>>THAT'S RIGHT. TINY PAULDRONS.
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>THEY SHRUNK THE SPACE MARINES GODDAMNED PAULDRONS
maybe, they have less to compensate
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>>53341699
You called ?
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>>53343948
Only because he's been eating all the world's sins so we don't have to suffer for them, anon.
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>>53344117
Eh.

Anyone who has played the game long enough has had to switch out their Marines eventually. I don't know anyone from 2nd Ed days that still uses those models.
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>>53339075

Spess Muhreenz are shit

Guillimarines are shit

GW is shit
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>>53344318
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>>53342267
40k should be more realistic so we can have tacticool marines and guardsmen. Then scream Humanity Fuck Yeah as we kick everyone's ass with our badass tactics, strategy, and technology.
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>>53339075
I like that GW has toned down the ugly baroque meme.
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Gonna take my nuMarines and put old marine legs on them to create some stunty marines.
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>>53339873
>>53341245
Nice try I'm behind 7 immunity animals.

>>53343051
This dog may be already dead, he died to protect us, now he ascended to higher level of existence.
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>>53344468
I'd be happy to say you're right if Girlyman's armor wasn't so over the top.
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>>53343926
That's what I like to hear. Good for poorfags and those like me who don't really have a collection yet.
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>>53339873
kys
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>>53339873
Jokes on you, I have seen immunity cat.
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>>53339873
yup
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>>53342870
ELDAR 'AVE SOME NOISY PEACE AN' TRANQUILITY
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>>53345060
Character models are not the infantry norm, though. The Primarchs typically don't look like average Space Marines either.
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>>53342160

Neo New Marines look way nicer than originals.

I assume this whole "Primaris" thing is just GW coming up with an unnecessarily elaborate excuse for updating the models.
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>>53339075
Yes but there are BIGGER PAULDRONS. THE LARGEST EVER.

The Galaxy is split in half yes? The Emperor of Mankind wears both sides of the galaxy as his pauldrons in the warp.

Truly the largest.
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>>53341699
Oh fuck me I can't unsee this now.
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>>53339873
I've got a terrible indigestion
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Game featuring Nustartes when?
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>>53339873
>>53341245
hrmm witchcraft eh. Alright.
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>>53346086
>Space Marine 2
>game split between Titus working to clear his name and NuMarines tasked with chasing him down
>Titus sections are more based around fighting your way alone through levels and using unconventional tactics
>NuMarines operate as a unit and rely on combat more
>You control the team leader, Leandros
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God damn I love how the new guys look. Never been interested in getting a SM army, but a force consisting only of these guys would be pretty sweet.
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>>53339873
Fuck off
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>>53341245
Why
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>>53339873
This post has so many replies. I'll add one more like the enabler piece of shit that I am.
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>>53343948
I think you mean a little husky husky.
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>>53341219
30k exists in its own bubble anyways.
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>>53339111
>there's a pauldron within a pauldron
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>>53341365
GW released an FAQ that answered all this.
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>>53339873
Fucker
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>>53341245
C U N T
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>>53343984
Even people like vulkan and khan?
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>>53339075
The best part of Primaris Marines is that they're going to make Marines a more elite army. Best of the best yet on the board there's probably 5 Guard to every 1 Marine when in the fluff there's millions of Guardsmen in a regiment and only 1000 Marines in codex chapters.
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>>53341245
FUCKK
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>>53347157
Astra have Ogryns which is basically Primaries humans.
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>>53348913
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>>53341245

I CURSE THEE

NEVER SHALT THOU ENJOY THE SCOOPS AGAIN
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>>53341245
that's unfortunate
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>>53339427
Knee pauldrons are the wave of the future.

Shoulder pauldrons are so last millennium.
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>>53341245
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>>53345638

You are correct, it's a way of containing the utter rage marinefags will feel now.

They play SM because they're the biggest and the strongest, so if GW replaces their biggest and strongest with actual big truescale marines they lose the majority of the market.

In years these nu-marines will become the standard of all space marines.
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>>53349914
I really want to believe that in the back of the design team mind's, they secretly wanted to trigger the majority of the SM fanbase.

So I will
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>>53341245
you fuck. i hope you shit your pants next time you try to fart.
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>>53346086
Not for a while. Game Devs seem to ignore nu GW lore. Centurions and Stormravens haven't appeared in any 40k game that I know of, and total war pretends Age of Sigmar doesn't exist
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>>53343721
If they had made true scale space marines with the same stats as original marines you would have a mob of neckbeards descending on nottingham with torches. EVERYONE would've had to replace their armies.

This is the best solution for everyone. People that want truescale have their fix, people who don't can keep the munchkin marines.
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>>53350431
but they could just.... let you use the old models too...
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>>53351380
>Show up to tournament
>HEY TO THIS GUY IS USING MANLET MARINES TO MODEL FOR ADVANTAGE

You know it would happen. There's always that one fucker. People still get shit for using old Termis and rhinos. What makes you think this would be different.

Plus you know that would look awful, ridiculous, and everyone would feel forced to swap out their whole armies for new marines.

On top of that, what are you going to do with all the old character models, chapter specific units, chapter upgrade kits, etc. etc. etc. You would invalidate thousands of dollars of perfectly good molds over night. It would be the worst thing you could possibly do. GW would have to release dozens of new boxes over night to replace the range.

By making them Nu marines GW is literally saying "hey, here's truescale marines. You want them, cool, but you aren't required to get them at all and your old army is still 100% legit, no worries."

It's the closest thing to a win win you're ever going to see on this issue.
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>>53341245
ok
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>>53341245
What happened to Draigo, anyway?
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>>53341245 you need therapy please seek help
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>>53341245
G A Y
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>>53341245
eat shit
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>>53339075
Why is it important, OP?
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>>53339075
So they are both reusable and look much better now? sign me the fuck up
Please change chaos too GW ;__;
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I fucking hate how much Primaris Bolters have a rail system. How the fuck hasn't the 41st Millennium developed something other than a picatinny rail?
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>>53353025
At least Death Guard is getting some beefed up dudes, GW said so themselves.
We'll have to wait and see for the future
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>>53353041
Usual answer: tech is heresy and you cannot invent new things easily?
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>>53353025
The community post did say Chaos was getting an equivalent unit, not sure if they'll look this baller though.
>>53353041
It's the simplest thing to design, even in-universe, that is still immediately recognizable on a model. You know exactly what it is and what it does at a glance. Plus if you want to consider the FFG P&P's as canon it looks like humans never stopped using them anyway because it seems like fuckin' everyone has them.
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>>53353095
In the grim darkness of the far future, picatinny rails are the height of modular weapons technology.
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>>53353108
Sure, why not? They work for the same reason Lasrifles and Leman Russ' do, they're easy to make and maintain, not likely to break down, and you don't even need to maintain that shit.

You could come up with a better option, but why would you make some needlessly complex tech option, that's the Tau's schtick.
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>>53353138
That's totally fair. I just love the idea of this one piece of serrated plastic lasting tens of thousands of years through multiple technological revolutions. Something about that makes me chuckle.
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>>53353138
>easy to make and maintain
>you don't even need to maintain that shit
What in the fuck was I smoking? I guess it makes sense but jesus christ.

>>53353148
I get the same chuckle every time I remember the M2 is still somehow in service.
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>>53339075
>>53339092
>>53339111
>>53339131
>>53339152
not funny you 12 yr old spastic
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>>53341245

fucker
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>>53341330

Heads too.
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>>53341699
>stopped at 7 episode and forgot about it
should i read the monga or watch it?
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>>53341419
yeah they can. paaldrons were specifically mentioned as one of the bits thats the same size.
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>>53347051
everyone.
we've already had mention of them having to deal with various chapters geneseed curses as hints of death company primaris marines or the like.
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>>53341245
I hate this meme
>>53341535
Oversized pauldrons are a staple of the genre, they must remain lest we dishonour our ancestors.
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They told pauldrons and torso are the same size,legs and arms not,head is in scale with Centurions,so slightly biggher
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Small paldurons turn me on even more - ohh god GW don't stop !!!
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>>53339075

First time Space Marines don't look like shit.
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>>53341245
hello, reddit!
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>>53353437
>appeal to tradition

Maybe in old 40K that would have meant something.

But this is Guilliman's 40K now, sonny. All the retarded shit has to go and stay go or Space Caesar will remove it forcibly.
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>>53341245
Yes'm
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>>53341245

nigger tits
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>>53341329
pauldrons and heads are the same size. Intended for customization. Read the faq about the new marines.
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>>53341245
nigger
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Did anyone save those greentext stories about the Primaris Space Marines being the innocent little brother?
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>>53341245
meme
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>>53360072
Gotcha
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>>53340858

It's a fact and has been for some time. These companies aren't shy about it, even governments do it. Given the amount of traffic 4chan gets you think they wouldn't come here where it'd be easier due to the anonymous nature of the site?

They do shill. Do they shill as much as people claim where anyone wanting to discuss shit is a shill? No, but they are certainly here and shilling, anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.
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>>53341245

...
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>>53362170
I was looking for them to show a friend. Had the archived thread in my history.

But thank you, brother.
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>>53341245
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>>53341245
this thread sucks
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>>53341245
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>>53341245
Go back to /b/ with this garbage
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>>53341245
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>>53341245
Nnnnnnnnoooooooooo
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>>53341245
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>>53339075
>THIS IS IMPORTANT
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>>53353082
DG are puny compared to Chad Marines.
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>>53341245
sumffin sumffin my pauldrons!
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>>53353095
>The community post did say Chaos was getting an equivalent unit, not sure if they'll look this baller though.
You mean equivalent army?
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>>53365490
>dat tinny shoulders
GW, please.
Also, cool rifle design
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>>53341245
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I hope GW spoils some more units in today's article. hopefully the primaris assault marines variants.
I was waiting for scaled up marines for years now and the intercessors gave me an itch that needs scratching
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>>53341245
Why aren't you banned yet?
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>>53339075
This is what real pauldrons look like. This change is a good thing.
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>>53341245
Fuck you anon.
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>>53367169
His pauldrons aren't smaller than usual, it's just that the chaos marine there has extra flanges bolted to his pauldrons, making them somewhat larger than usual.
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>>53339131
Lol, the manlet.
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>>53341245
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>>53341103
>Probably least frustrating basic troop model replacements they've ever released.
I disagree. This honour goes to DE witches and cabalites.
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Do you guys rebase your manlet marines? I mean, I have some very old plastic monopose marines (second edition I believe). Would you rebase them?
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>>53351441

I get shit for using my old ass avatar (far right in pic).
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>>53368518
He looks like he could pass for a fire dragon exarch. Pretty cute.
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>>53340858
Ex redshirt here.

We get a bonus if we spend time promoting gw on social media. A good chunk of us chose to interpret that as creating threads on tg, and I never got on trouble for it.

I'm certain that still goes on.
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>>53353148

Not plastic, it is made of gun metal.
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>>53350299

Centurions were used in the slytherine turn based game armageddon.
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>>53346185
>You control the team leader, Leandros
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>>53343926
>They have far too many models in old marine scale to do this suddenly, and you know as well as I do that there would be untold numbers of autists who would rage at their entire marine collection being obsolete in an instant.
This.

Anyone who doesn't understand this is a complete fucking idiot.
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>>53373031
"Game company headquarters burned down by angry mob" would be a pretty funny headline though.
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>>53373748
Implying fat neckbeards can do anything more interesting than rant on an anonymous chinese image board for thai chicken recipes.
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>>53340858
Op here, not a shill, I just wanted to make a dumb joke about the pauldrons getting smaller (or looking smaller) because, yknow, 40k and fuckhuge pauldrons. I was going for comical outrage at a non issue, as everyone knows pauldrons are central to the setting

Instead you fuckos used the thread for discussion and for some reason it's still here.
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>>53339075

If you replace the helmets with the classic and remove the hip armor i think you wont even notice the pauldron size difference.
They might look better, certainly lot better considering the fact that they were funny next to a guardsman before.
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>>53365490
The DG is taking a step forward whereas the Primaris almost stands upright though
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>>53362170
well, at least he haven't killed the childs on the spot
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>>53368518
the dude in the middle unironically remembered me about picrelated
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>>53374296
that paintjob makes me uncomfortable
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>>53374335
PIZZA THE HUTT?
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>>53339075
Why are you typing like a spastic 12 year old?
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>le funny all caps warhammer40k xD thread is still up
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