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What do you do with a passive party? I'm trying to GM a

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What do you do with a passive party?

I'm trying to GM a game for a bunch of players who won't do ANYTHING unless prompted to. I feel like I'm constantly railroading them, but otherwise they'll just stand around and not do shit.

If the mentor-NPC is obviously wrong about something, nobody corrects him. Weird shit goes uninvestigated. One character was literally freely sitting in another room while her father was getting brutally tortured, without making an attempt to interrupt, and the girl's a lawful good for fuck's sake.

The players have complained that I take too much control over the game, and I'd be glad to improvise based on their actions, but THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.

What can you do to help that?
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>>53297847
Find a new party. Players are dime a dozen.
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>>53297858
Nope, not where I'm around.

Besides, me and my friends are a fairly tight-knit group. Everyone's known everyone for years. I wouldn't ditch them just over this.
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>>53297847
Get a PC to wrangle them.
You can have as many fucking cold fishes as you want as long as there's a horndog there to revel in fucking them regardless of motion.

Which is to say, if someone feels the call to ADVENTURE, the others are going to get dragged along despite themselves.
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Have you directly stated your problem to them?
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>>53297847
A) Have you tried talking to them about it?

If they're your friends you shouldn't have any trouble explaining to them what the issue is from your point of view.

B) Now, the truth is, there are a lot of types of players, and passive ones are a common type. It's usually a fool's errand trying to turn one type into a different type, but you can encourage them. Find out what sort of things they want to see in a game, what sort of game they want to play, and use that to hook and interest them.

C) Ask them what their character's motivations and goals are. They should have at least three. Ask them what they're willing to do to get there.

D) If that doesn't work, then ask them what they aren't willing to tolerate in the world. Then throw that at them. It could be mass slavery. Demon summoning. Crazed cults spreading foul plagues. Monsters raping stuff. Wizards rewriting personalities. Brothels with all sorts of stuff inside them. Whatever gets them riled up, use it. Get them to care about some sort of problem or perceived injustice in your world and then they're hooked.
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>>53300118
Basically this.

I'd wager just going full blunt mode.
"Your father is being brutally attacked, you better do something or else"

"That strange sighting by the moor sounds like the story the barkeep told about commie ghosts and their treasure."
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>>53300118
>/tg/
>actually communicating with people instead of complaining about your problems on a Nepalese zoetrope board.
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>>53297847
Put them in a do or die situation. Ditch them on a deserted island or at the bottom of a dungeon, and tell them that no-one is coming to rescue them. Put a counter with 30 days on the table, and tell them that its end their characters will fucking die from a flood or whatever. Ask them leading questions, like 'where are you looking for sustenance' or 'how are you going to find materials to build a shelter' to get them moving.
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Force them into situations where they either act or die
>The man you were speaking to yells out in pain and falls over dead as a previously invisible person suddenly appears holding a bloody dagger, he leaps out of the window and bolts. Someone starts knocking on the door asking what that noise was. What do you do?
Or any sort of situation where if they do nothing they'll be punished for it. No answer? He breaks down the door, sees the body and calls you a murderer. He starts yelling for the guards

Maybe even get a more experienced party member to get people into it? Chances are they're interested in the game but don't quite know how to act on that interest. Waiting for a "ok now it's your turn, what are you doing?" Some people like that just need a person to show them they don't need your permission to act after you're done describing (just find a player who doesn't interrupt you mid sentence so they don't start doing it all the time)
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>>53297847
They're not interested in the game. Run a better game, or find new players. That's all there is to it.
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>>53297847
What happens when they stand around exactly? Is there an awkward silence? Do they have conversations like...
>What do we do now
>I don't know, what do you think
>I don't know, what do YOU think
What prompts this? How do you lead into the "what do you do" phase?

Your players complain about you being overbearing. Have you told them you have a problem with their lack of initiative?

Let's be real though, it's all fixable. Sometimes you end up with a wallflower group and they need training wells before they can shine.
You must nudge them along and pull teeth a bit, but do NOT put them into fight or freeze situations like some anons recommend. They will only freeze.

I can't tell what happened with the Lawful Good PC. We need a transcript here dude. There is a lot of stuff you could say to prompt the player to act, and I don't know if you've already said it all.
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>>53301439
>They're not interested in the game. Run a better game, or find new players. That's all there is to it.
This.
Sounds like they don't really care about playing and are really just hanging out.
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>>53297847
Give them super male vitality
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>>53297847
I feel your pain as I've been exactly there. Acquire a different party.
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>>53300162
I came here for basket weaving.
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>>53297847
Introduce a plot of them angering someone or something really powerful and it coming after them relentlessly. There's their motivation: stay on the move, hide in a city or get assfucked until bloody death.
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>>53297847

Session starts
"Okay: in game, it's May 18th. What do you guys do today?"
Crickets chirp.
"All right, everybody deduct a silver piece for living expenses. Now it's May the 19th. What do you guys do today?"
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>>53304505
>Guys, it's almost August
>Guys! You are literally sitting out in an alley eating rats!
>You have all kinds of different diseases that need medical attention!
>Your dogs died for fucks sake!
>What do you mean "we needed to eat" you fuckwit??
>Why aren't you doing anything?!?
>Please go work for a plate of food at least!
>DO SOMETHING!!!

"..."

>Ugh... It's July 28th. What do you do...?
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>>53304610
>... Alright guys it's October now...
>the lines that separate you and your excrement and your excrement and the ground are indistinguishable
>good news is birds have taken up residence in your hair
>do you still just stand there?
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>>53297858

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