Does Guilliman know about those "ork snipers" yet?

>>53294345
wherent this guys wiped out or something?

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>>53294345
cool i love sigmarines too

>>53294648
No. But the chapter suffered over 90% losses in the Third War for Armageddon. As Fist successors they're a pretty strong candidate to receive Primaris reinforcements honestly.

>>53294345

I doubt he's going to scoure the Inquisition but it would be interesting to see how a conflict between the Inquisition and Girlyman plays out with Greyfax totally in his court.

>>53294814
>niggers demanding government handouts

wow big surprise. they never stop do they?

>>53294814

That depends on how long it's been since Armaggedon III and the current time of the setting.

Helbrecht made Ekene take the oath of Chapter master, gave him one of his swag armor suits and sent him back to Elysium with a few Black Templars and Grimaldus' apprentince to go rebuild.

>>53294913
Unless they changed it I think it's only been two years or so. A3 is 998 and 13th BC is 999.

>>53294345
GSIII he basically said "Everything bad about the Imperium is chaos' fault! Let's go fuck them up."

If you're hoping he's going to tear down the Inquisition and Imperial Cult, you'll probably be waiting quite a while.

>>53294831
Some factions will jump to his side and some factions will drag their feet or quietly work against him. They've always been rather fractured.

>>53294844
Fuck off .

>>53294345
Tell GW we want a full chapter of them. And maybe the Flesh Tearers, too.

Or lets do it ourselves.

>>53295018
How would you handle reinforcing them?

I'm curious as to how this kind of situation would be handled without just folding them into another chapter.

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>>53294844
10/10

>>53294831
I'd love to see the Inquisition try to pull some shit on Guilliman, and he just stares them down
>I am LITERALLY the Emperor's son, how do you FUCK with me on this shit.

>>53297771

Then Marneus pulls a Cato and squishes the head of said inquistor with the Guantlets of Ultramar

>>53294345
>>53294786
Sigmarines are perfect for converting into Celestial Lions.

>>53297771
Horus was the Emperor's son too.

>>53297893

Guilliman is a better son.

>>53294345
Celestial Lions are the shit, if Primaris marines will save the chapter then I'm all for it.

>>53297893
horus was sick and twisted, though
rowboat guiltyman is probably not guilty despite his name

>>53297893
i cant wait for some fat shit inquisitor to try that line, and the aftermath

>>53297935
>I knew Primarchs were strong, but who knew they could crash an entire Inquisitorial shuttle with a single punch

>>53297924
>Celestial Lions and Lamenters are filled up with Primaris
>End up becoming some of the strongest Chapters solely for that fact

Minotaurs are going to get their shit kicked in by these marines aren't they?

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>>53298067

Make Badab War chapters great again.

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>>53294345
>Do you think any of the Inquisitions shenannigans are going to be addressed soon?

OH, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE IMPERIUM!

IT'S OUR DUTY TO PROTECT THE IMPERIUM! MALCADOR SAID SO!

>>53297925
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INNOCENCE, ONLY DEGREES OF GUILT.

>>53298067
>primaris were actually still experimental and flawed
>strongest chapters end up with high maintenance cost
>they get less and less funding because bureaucrats
>a tidal wave of budget cuts follows
>empire loses military strenght and is crushed to bits
>horus was right all along

>>53298159
hey, he's got a penis and eldar were morphologically compatible
things happen
it's only natural

>>53298196
if the primaris marines the lamenters get end up just going psycho and melting down on the battlefield that would just be perfect.

especially if everybody else's primaris troops are normal and healthy

>>53298220
but they won't
GW has to sell toys

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>>53295007
Yeah, some people don't seem to understand that the Inquisition is among the most decentralized, divided factions in 40k, probably only behind Chaos and Orks. What one Inquisitor does has rarely has any reflection on what another does, even if they operate in the same sector.

There will probably be cases of Inquisitors going "rogue" because they doubt that it's the real Guilliman, or even just fear that their power will be taken from them. But there will likely be just as many, if not more, cases of Inquisitors immediately signing up with Guilliman because he's one of the Primarchs, and/or see him as the best chance the Imperium has.

>>53298262
Well, you also have ones like Quixos, and it's kind of hard to say exactly what was going through his head.

I mean, he was crazy like a fox, but he was definitely crazy, too. Massive upheaval in general caused by both sides is like yelling "COPS" at the top of your lungs inside a crack house.

Weird, unpredictable shit is going to happen.

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>>53298133
I don't think the Red Scorpions will except any primaris marines.

Those vat-grown freaks aren't pure enough and aren't mandated as part of the codex astartes!

This is meddling with the Emperor's creations. This is heresy on a new level!
But theres warpstorms and orks everywhere so bigger mutants to fry I guess.

>>53298418
but it's an order from the guy that wrote the codex astartes
it's like Tolkien writing some fanfic and then saying "this is canon on middle earth"
you can't say no

>>53294345
There's literally no proof that the Inquisition had anything to do with the Celestial Lions getting BTFO.

>>53298529
"Ork Snipers"

>>53298529
>There's literally no proof that the Inquisition had anything to do with the Celestial Lions getting BTFO.
>The last Apothecary of the Celestial Lions was killed via a headshot by a lasgun
Orks (outside of those Freeboota boyz ) don't use flashlights as a primary weapon (Even the Freebootaz only lasguns as hidden/back-up weapons).

Yeah, this has Inquistion written all over it.

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>>53298499
Well he is wrong. The codex astartes was perfect. He may be the prophet who wrote it, but this new perversion of the codex is not the word of the emperor!

>>53298599
DIGGANOBZ

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>>53297771
>"I am LITERALLY the Emperor's son, how do you FUCK with me on this shit."
>"So was this guy."

That was easy.

>>53298660
you're saying the man who inherited the emperor's butt is wrong?
clearly chaos influence

>>53298690
"yes but i don't have nipple horns"

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>>53298690
> "So was he."

Also I can't wait for Karmazov to meet with Roboute

>>53298740
How do we know you're not hiding them under that armor of yours?!
Someone should interrogate his Eldar whore, she'll probably know.

>>53298660
Speaking of codex dick-sucking, when do we get the scene where Guilliman calls Leandros a raging faggot for focusing on the letter of his low rather than the spirit?

>>53294345
>Do you think any of the Inquisitions shenannigans are going to be addressed soon?
was thinking the same, I can imagine that there will be some sort of civilwar between Guilyman and the Inquisition

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>>53294345
Welp. I know what I'll be working on 'til 8th edition comes out.

>>53298852
I'm probably in the minority, and let me just state that I also think Leandros deserves to get spaced, but he did have a point.

Hear me out, when you're Company Captain is suddenly Warp Resistant as all hell then that's really suspicious. Grab the Chaplain suspicious, not the =I=

>>53299016
>Grab the Chaplain suspicious, not the =I=
Yeah, grabbing the =I= for something like that is supposed to be for the Guard, NOT THE FUCKING SPACE MARINES.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH THAT SHIT IN-HOUSE DAMN IT!

>>53299052
That was my point, Leandros had a right to be suspicious but that fucker took it to the CIA instead of the local authorities

>>53298418
Damn that looks rad. I love marine art that makes them not look really bulky and top heavy

>>53298690

And then we find out that Primarchs have the strength to punch people through a ship

>>53294913
>Helbrecht made Ekene take the oath of Chapter master, gave him one of his swag armor suits and sent him back to Elysium with a few Black Templars and Grimaldus' apprentince to go rebuild.
Black Templars once again the most based Chapter


As for the Inquisition, unless things have changed one of the reasons they exist is because the Primarchs said "deal with it" to the rest of the High Lords and rammed them down their throats. So presumably they recognize their reason for existing, even if they don't like their methods in general.

>>53299317

Black Templars don't let their senpai go down like chumps
#fuckthe=][=

>>53299393

What the fuck? I wrote senpai not senpai!

>>53299410
>What the fuck? I wrote senpai not senpai!
what the fuck? you wrote senpai not senpai!

>>53299410
>word filter strikes again!!

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>>53294345
im actually planning on doing a celestial lions army once these nu marines come out
im thinking of making the right pauldron of the nu marines black with celestial spacey shit painted on in remembrance of their fallen brothers

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>>53299435

...Is this actually a thing?

>>53299466
how new are you

>>53298133

I can't even imagine the amount of ass rape that will result from the Carcharadons if they end up chock full of Primaris Marines.

>>53299466
Cuck.

>>53299317
>Black Templars
for that matter, what is guilliman going to say once he sees that the black templars have like over 6000 marines

>>53299492
Looks like they changed wordfilter.

>>53299479

Apparently newer then I thought because I've never seen it in action until now.

>>53299460
Perhaps to represent the BTs who went with Ekene some of the verterans could have Black Helmets while the Nu-Marines do the shoulder thing like you said

>>53299502
BTs were around before Girlyman got ganked weren't they?

>>53299489
what do you mean?

>>53299466
Yes. Odd thing is I can't think of anything you might've written in that sentence that would end up with some sort of word filter replacement.

>>53299502
Probably demand the Templars follow the Codex Astartes, to which the Templars would first flip Guilliman the middle finger, and then accuse him of being tainted by xenos filth.

Cue new Imperium Civil War.

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>>53299522

Space Sharks are even more brutal toward their enemies than the Minotaurs are according to records from the Badab Wars, and the Minotaurs are notorious for wiping out entire Chapters of Space Marines.

>>53299502
>>53299529
At worst I can see him telling them they gotta split up into separate Chapters, but more likely he'll turn a blind eye to it, and probably task them with some of the heavier war zones since they can take the attrition.

Also gotta bet some members of the Inquisition are sweating balls over the thought of him having a conversation with Grimaldus or Helbrecht about the Celestial Lions. They know they're not fucking around, but they're also not going to be 'easy' targets like the Lions.
>The following message was to be delivered -- Grimaldus knew he had to be careful how he worded his message -- it was only six words. "No pity. No remorse. No fear."
>No pity. No remorse. No fear.

>>53299520
>BTs were around before Girlyman got ganked weren't they?
Yeah but not with those numbers.

>>53299691
>Also gotta bet some members of the Inquisition are sweating balls over the thought of him having a conversation with Grimaldus or Helbrecht about the Celestial Lions. They know they're not fucking around, but they're also not going to be 'easy' targets like the Lions.

Yeah but how much of that was the work of a few inquisitors rather than the entire organization? I bet you if it came down to it they would gladly throw them at Girlyman's feet to get stomped into meat patties.

>>53299642
That tends to happen when most of the Geneseed comes from Night Lords, World Eaters and Terran Raven Guard

>>53298690
I look forward to the inevitable rematch between this guy and Leman when he returns. Finally this gay nerd can be put down.

>>53298548
>>53298599
>they were attacked by lasgun snipers in an active warzone
>IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE INQUISITION
Whatever you say, Alex Jones. It's literally nothing.

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>>53299892
>Alex Jones

Who is the Alex Jones of the Imperium?

>>53299923
Ciaphas Cain.

>>53299892
>As the ships left orbit, the Imperial Navy, under orders of Inquisitor Apollyon, bombarded the planet, and obliterated the entire population of the planet. This action horrified the Celestial Lions who proceeded to condemn the Inquisitor. Captain Saul had attempted to halt the bombardment, but could not counter-order an Inquisitor. From then on, the Celestial Lions were highly vocal against the Inquisition, believing it had been unnecessary to destroy the planet. They sent a series of very loud and public condemnations against the Inquisition in general. A delegation of senior Chapter officers left for Terra to further their cause, but the ship never arrived.
>On multiple occasions Thunderhawk deployments to Hive Volcanus were shot down by Imperial anti-air cannons, or by Imperial ships in orbit as Thunderhawks returned from the surface

>>53300102
Merely a (((coincidence)))

>>53299410
Welcome, Novitiate.

>>53300164
Is it f a m that gets changed to senpai?

Senpai

>>53300189
Yes it is, apparently.

>>53298262

Why would anyone design clothes that drag on the ground? That makes no sense whatsoever.

Imperium is in chaos atm. Half of it is encompassed by the biggest warp storm ever. Abby and his minions are rampaging around the northwest. There's shit like Hive Fleet Leviathan going as well.

Guilliman is too occupied with the above to start a civil war addressing the inquisition. It's why he hasnt disbanded the imperial cult.

>>53294844
fucking lol'd

>>53297935
>>53298046
Someone needs to write a book solely for this moment to happen.

Some Lord inquisitor walks up to girlyman and not only brings up horus, his brother, and all the fresh feelings of the heresy. (Girlyman has been sleeping this whole time) He goes even further and actually compares gulliman to horus to his face.

If anyone in the imperium would be stupid enough to do that, it would HAVE to be an inquisitor.


By the way, how is gulliman cool with the Imperial cult at all. He founded second us to uphold the emperors secular truth. Fucking GW can't write consistently.

>>53300319

Obviously he wasn't pleased with the way the Imperium turned out but he did go into the throne and talk to Dad so I assume he told him some shit and, considering all the bullshit that's going on. He just shrugs and says fuck it and goes about fixing the Imperium.

*uses cyber cherub to tip hexagrammatic fedora*

Excuse me m'Primark, but is there any reason why we should assume the destruction of the Celestial Lions was anything but a random act of xeno contrition? I mean, was it not you who believed space marines would never fight each other, and was blindsided at Calth as a response? I think the fallibility of Primarchs is well proven.

*lights Cybertheurgical Incense-Vapeum*

>>53300369
Turns out all the Primarchs are hanging out there with big E, laughing their heads off at the mess the Imperium's got into.

Guilliman is trying to do this whole schtick with a straight face.

>>53300484

Who do you think will come back next? My money is Blood Daddy considering the Angels are stuck on their own with bugs.

That said, there's no excuse for Wolf Daddy and Speedwagon to still be fucking around in the warp.

>>53300484
>Big E and the boys were hanging out at a Friday's down the road from the golden throne this whole time
>10 thousand years worth of unlimited appetizers

>>53300505
unlike Roboute, Sanguinius has the problem of actually beind dead.

Russ, Lion are much more likely to return.

>>53300553

There is that but I imagine that Sanguinor will be involved and I'm of the belief he's a manifestation of Sanguinous.

>>53300508
Turns out that's what the sisters of silence have been doing. Acting as waitresses.

>>53294814
I wonder if the magpies will be gifted any, given how under manned the are

>>53300749
I'm sure they were given some on their recent unscheduled surprise visit to Mars.

>>53300749
>Blood Ravens
>mattering
Not after DoW3

>>53301094
Ultrasmurfs remained relevant even after the shitty movie so one shitty game is hardly a metric.

>>53301161
Ultrasmurfs will survive almost anything, as they are the mascot of WH40k.

>>53301094
Ravens are the malleable chapter.
They can do pretty much whatever they want with them, which is why they were made.

>>53300319
Inquisitors are hardly stupid and not all of them are the cartoon villains people make them out to be.

>>53297771
The Inquisition has fought primarchs before such as the traitor primarchs. It's their job to protect the Imperium from everything. Since it is divided by different factions who believe different things, theres bound to be a puritan or radical faction that dislikes Papa Smurf.

>>53294345
>I'm sure the space wolves would love to have a chat with him too.
SW as we known were totally destroyed on Cadia, now it's only Primaris Space Wolves

>>53294844
wew

>>53294844
kek

>>53302472
Sources?

>>53301739
Yeah, sure, keep telling yourself that. Fact is GW has just decided to dodge any potential negative ramifications of Guilliman's return (with Xenos help no less) by just ignoring it.

Apparently the Ecclesiarchy just keeps going perfectly fine and Guilliman gets to become sole autocrat solidifying all power in one individual...despite previously having been explicitly opposed to that.

>>53302472
>13th Black Crusade
>Space Wolves - 12 Great Companies

Geez they really threw everything they had at Cadia. At least Logan Grimnar survived.

>>53304619
>Apparently the Ecclesiarchy just keeps going perfectly fine
And why wouldn't they? The Primarchs did nothing to stop their rise. They were the sole religious power of the Imperium inside of a thousand years.

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>>53304720
>perfect time to reboot wolves as vikings again instead of fucking furries
>in my heart of hearts i know that nugw will actually just use this as a chance to double down on their furry side

>>53304735
I know of no mention of their rise occuring during the living memory of Primarchs in recent fluff. Both Vulkan and Guilliman react to finding out about them by going 'Bah! What is this?' and generally disliking it.

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>>53304765
>Both Vulkan and Guilliman react to finding out about them by going 'Bah! What is this?' and generally disliking it.
Because GW either doesn't know their own fluff, or are catering to the fags who don't and want the Primarchs to give the Ecclisiarchy what-fer and project on.

From the 7e rulebook, as every rulebook. In about a thousand years from the HH, the Ecclisiarchy had destroyed or assimilated every single rival cult in the Imperium to become the state religion. A process like that doesn't happen overnight, and I find it hard to believe Guilliman wasn't around for at least the beginnings of its campaigns.

>>53294913
Its been like three years since Arma III
Most events have taken place in the last 100 years of M41

>>53304762
As long as Ragnar Blackman is alive that's enough for me. You just KNOW Leman is coming back soon so we'll get shiny Space Wolf primaris marines and Russ will tell them to tone down on the wolfing wolf lord of wolves shit.

>>53304814
Considering GS is what all the new fluff is based on and Guilliman Clearly doesn't know about the Cult taking power in it I think its safe to say that none of the Primarchs knew about it.

>>53304720
But this isn't true. Fall of cadia says only like two Great Companies stayed behind, the rest had already withdrawn, including all the major characters. Space Wolves are fine.

>>53298690
>>53297893

The first inquisitor that brings this up to his face is probably going to get the Blazing Sword shoved so far up his ass he'll become the new sword hilt

>>53304901
It is sad that pretty much all of the Imperium's intercine conflict and power jockeying has apparently been eradicated over night.

>>53304884
If they honestly, truly, had no clue the cult had taken over when it was alive and growing while being actively prosecuted, and then grew fast enough for cults to take fighting, and one to take over an entire galaxy of feuding cults inside of 1000 years.

Then I have no idea how such blind people conquered the galaxy, let alone prevented a total collapse after the HH.

But I guess that's GW for you. "40k has a solid canon determined by the whims of the last writer to release something :^)"

>>53304938
Wouldn't surprise me, it isn't like GW fluff doesn't get that dumb at times.

>>53304985
Personally I just ignore Guilliman being surprised by the cult, and more repulsed by what the Administratum's become in addition to the excesses of the Imperial Cult. INB4 IGNORING FLUFF REEEE.

I also like to think one of the High Lords removed was a fatass Ecclisiarch and Guilliman's hand chosen successor was someone with a bit more humility.

>>53305019
Sure but by the same logic I could just ignore Primarchs exist and decide Guilliman's a collection of sentient mice pretending to be the Emperor.

Nothing wrong with it, just obviously not much point discussing fluff then.

>>53305070
Sure, nothing stops you from making a Reductio ad Absurdum.

>>53305122
Exactly. If you ignore some fluff you open the door to anyone choosing what to ignore and what not to ignore.

>>53305141
And that's their business. I don't agree that it means there's no point to discussing fluff when I have a lot of fun discussing with friends who don't agree with me on everything.

Every single one of my beliefs are based on fluff GW has written, even if they don't still follow it, and I can say the same for my friends so don't worry, there; you won't find primarch deniers among us.

But naturally this is the internet, so if someone does things different, you end up like the past 3 days of /tg/. I sometimes wonder if it's an extension of the ridiculous polarization occurring everywhere else in society right now.

>>53305141
there is literally no way to take anything of the fluff of HH and after seriously without being selective. selective as in "HH books were never writen"

fluff conflicts with itself more often than it corporates

>>53304814
It would happen fairly fast mate. Remember that God just deleted the Devil and it's all true. It's not like our religions.

>>53305281
It wasn't fast though. The Ecclisiarchy was founded by a veteran of the Horus Heresy. It literally did take them a millennia to take over the Imperium's spirituality. Of course, that's ancient fluff because the Sisters of Battle never get updated. But so far, nothing's emerged to contradict it. Probably because sisters never get updated.

>>53304762
>fucking furrys

You've been huffing too many memes. They are still Vikings, they have been forever. The furry thing is just shitposting.

>>53305390
Fair point lad

>>53305428
it absolutely is not a meme. i know the fluff just fine

they are LITERALLY furries since they have WOLF dna in them and slowly turn into WOLVE

also they freaked out when a few priests suggested they could take out the wolf dna. its something they cherish and love

>>53305469
The curse of the wulfen has been there forever though. And the space wolves see it as a bad thing.

>>53305428
> They are still Vikings
No, they are wolves. Led by wolf lords and the wolf guard riding wolves and chariots pulled by wolves bedecked in wolf charms and wolf totems made by the wolf priests.

>>53304814
>>53304884
>Clearly doesn't know about the Cult taking power in it I think its safe to say that none of the Primarchs knew about it.

Most of the Primarchs kinda fucked off and did their own thing after the Heresy, and didn't really pay much attention to the goings on back on Terra very much. Busy dealing with the Traitor primarchs/running off to the Warp for 'reasons'/Chasing DEldar into the Webay, that sort of thing.

I do remember when Vulkan came back to help against the Beast's WAAAGH! back in M32 he was not happy about the existence of the Eccleisarchy, which if my dates are right, gained its permanent seat among the High Lords roughly 40 years prior to the War of the Beast, which started in 544.M32.

Shame he got killed by the Beast though, he'd have made a better leader than our current "spiritual liege" ever could (well, a more inspiring, less heretical one anyway).

>>53299489
Theres an almost 100% chance Sharks won't have primaris fluffwise.

I'm pretty sure they are in the dark imperium and even if they aren't they predate the codex astartes and don't even have any contact with the rest of the Imperium outside of showing up in major wars and ruining it for everyone.

>>53305577
>>53305553
>>53305469
>>53305428
>>53304762
dont forget that there are no wolves on fenris ;^)

just people who had their fursona take over

>>53305216
>Every single one of my beliefs are based on fluff GW has written
This. If someone can give me a source, even an old one that's contradict it, I'll generally accept their view as valid. Because then you can debate on why your views are better (subjectively) and maybe come away a better person. But as this anon also mentioned, that's pretty much just practical in reality. In internet praticality, any kind of discussion that introduces nuance and/or subjectivity, just ends in ad hominems and Godwin's Law.