Gee Papa Smurf these new Primaris Space Marines sure do sound

Nah. It'll be fine.

>>53280017
/thread

>>53279929

>Guilliman ever doing wrong
>Ever

Guilliman will unite the Astartes of the Imperium and Imperium Nihilus and cleanse the galaxy of Chaos.

>>53280151
Nah, this is how GW splinters the SM ("Hey, maybe Horus was onto something "), allowing the fluff to 'move' and give noobs an advantage while keeping Failbaddon 'on the verge of' buttfucking Terra and Ol' Moldy.

IF THE SPACE MARINES DIDN'T WANNA GET REPLACED

THEY SHOULDNA SUCKED SO MUCH HUH?

>>53280300

this man has a point. Also checked

So does this mean they're going to kill 40k and replace it with "Age of Guilliman"?

Why would they start a civil war when the Imperium is getting invaded by everyone and one part is cut off from Terra. Do you really expect the Chapters to behave like petulant manchildren because superior space marines made from the geneseed of their Primarch showed up?

>>53280498
I wish. Then we'd have a 40k general and a AoG general and peace will return to the board eventually, like with Fantasy.

>>53280499
historically speaking?

yes

Guilliman should just build up the technology, education and healthcare of his planets and outfit his regular armies with more advanced technology and better training

Fuck Space Marines, just outfit every guardsman with carapace armor, plasma weaponry and select mechanicus cybernetics

>>53280643
Too bad the machine cults are all assholes

>>53280697
So annex them

>>53280499
>do you expect historically giant man children who are use to having their balls pampered to throw a hissy fit when they are put on the back shelf to even bigger man children with even more pampered balls

idk anon you tell me

>>53280732

I don't think you understand the extent of the autism of the cult mechanicus. You're asking for civil war

>>53280732
They have the equivalent of the empire from the star wars in term of gun about 5 feet away from holy terra. Not the grandest idea.

>>53280643
And where does Robby Gorillaman get all the resources? Half of his manufacturing base is fucked on the other side of the Warp storm divide, and he can't switch off the supply lines for all the other wars there are and say "Just hold out until I send you the dope shit I'm retooling all the factories for".

>>53280977

Girly man finds a way

>>53280977
Something something, Primarch intelligence something something shut up and buy models.

>>53280821
>>53280819
Robert is separate from the Imperium therefore what he does won't impact on Terra.
>>53280977
Apparently he has enough to create and outfit a new super Legion

>Guilliman was possessed by his dying father when he went down to see him on the golden throne
>yfw

>>53280977
Compound interest for 10k years

>>53281114
>Robert is separate from the Imperium

Except for the Fact that he is Lord Commander of the Imperium

>>53281165

I would be a little perturbed tbqh. I actually like papa smurf more than big e

>>53281196
Oh well then he is a fool

Should have made Imperium Secundus again

>>53281165
The Emperor isn't as smart as Guilliman.

After Guilliman dies, Chaos will destroy the tech to make primaris marines and they will slowly die off in the fluff.

>>53281396

He told Imperium Secundus to fuck off while there eyes are currently rotting out and the only cure is his literal presence. He decided to look at the big picture this time around. I think it stupid but who knows

>>53281451

you're going the no consequence route?

>>53281517
Yes, I am confident GW will return to the stagnant imperium.

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>>53281165
We already know who hides behind Roboute's appearance.

>>53282003

The Tau?

>>53281114
Well, nuMarines may be fluffed like "One in a million makes and Astartes, one in a billion make Astartes Plus." It's pretty much a given that they will be more expensive points wise. And it's not like their gear is a quantum leap above SM gear.

>>53281495
Please, this is GW. Stupidity is the norm. It took seven editions before someone finally thought "Let's actually play test our shit."

>>53280643
Stage 2 anons.

>turning all guardsman into Thunder Warrior bezerkers.

ALL OF THEM.

CHAOS WILL GET THE ASS RAPING IT DESERVES.

>>53281569
Nope.

You can't come up with new overpowered snowflake units if your Imperium is stagnant.

That's what 40k should be, the Imperium as the big bad monstrosity and the other factions trying to survive an ever more empowered yet fragmented humanity.

>>53279929
>Neglected chapters
He's giving Primaris marines to many, many chapters. As reinforcements.

>>53282280
Yes, but this will settle into a new status quo of "SM begin battle, lose ground/Chaos/Fucked up Goto level shit, NuMarines save the day, resentment felt from SM, some say "Fuck it, I'm down with the Big Four, shit goes nowhere."

Primaris vs Murder Hobos

who wins?

>>53282334

Post Horus Hersay 2: Electric Boogaloo

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>>53279929
>Jealousy
>Civil War
Why do people keep acting like Space Marines are giant insecure babies

Mind you these are the same people who will go on to say how absolutely loyal and indoctrinated and staunch they are

Fucking decide already

>>53282381

>Why do people keep acting like Space Marines are giant insecure babies

The Horus Heresy.

>>53282381
>Why do people keep acting like Space Marines are giant insecure babies
Have you seen the people who play them?

>>53282381
Because of a little thing called the Horus Heresy, where entire Legions kind of got jealous and fucked the Imperium to shit ten thousand years ago. This is kind of 'Warhammer basic history' level shit to know.

>>53282393
Literally started by magic, unindoctrinated assholes, and many many many many many unfortunate poor decisions

The fucking imperium is getting fucked who cares about their fee fees get some fucking reinforcements and strike back

>>53282410
The truth hurts

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>>53282433
You mean the primarchs got jealous of the Imperium having human leaders, the primarchs generally being massive bitches, the emperor being heavy handed as shit, Fucking Horus, Erebus, warp magic, and other dick heads

Compared to

More Astartes

That's like saying they should have rebelled when the Custodians joined the battle again

>>53279929
>Mat Ward

If anything, all the oldmerines accept numarines as their spiritual successor and their rightful superiors.

>>53282436
>Implying Imperium is worth saving
At least the Chaos gods care about ME.

>>53282706
We already know some chapters accept them, some are wary, and some rejected them outright.
Get with it, punk.

>>53282738
>t. hand rubbing merchant

>>53282381
>>53282393
>>53282436

The cause of mass defections among Astartes for the Horus Heresy were the Warrior Lodges. No warrior lodges this time around so no mass defections. Indoctrination method was also probably improved by Bob and Cawl, so the idea of heresy is even less likely. There is a possibility that a few Primaris Marines will fall into the hands of an infiltrated Chapter, but its equally likely that these Primaris Marines will be considered too loyal to turn and will most likely compromise any traitor operation or be killed first.

>>53282842

And on that note, I'm amusing myself with the thought that Captain/Chaplain Diomedes is so full of himself because Primaris status.

>>53280017
Honestly, this is more likely.

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>>53282247

>these rules
>playtested

You believe that after seeing what they put out so far?

>>53282915

I haven't taken look. Give me a quick run down.

>>53282915
From what I've seen so far, the tard quotient on this edition is much lower than 7th. I'm not saying that GW won't inevitably find a way to fuck this up, but so far I can't really bitch about some of the rumored changes

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>>53282915
>Orks and Tyranids dumpstered
>tau's only weakness of melee gets negated and they can leave it at will and fire in the same turn while also being able to overwatch
>Tzeentch army fucked in the ass by the new summoning rules like Tyranids
>Eldar literally shits on everything that isn't Tau
>melee all but useless because your dudes will almost never make it to the enemy
>lasguns can take down titans
>fabius bile can take down 3 with a sword
>should you make it to melee range you shred everything and any dudes even looking in the same direction take hits

And that is a simple primer of what they revealed. Can't wait to see this shit when it comes out fully and I can see every 40k player try to justify this. My dick is already hard.

>>53281114
>Apparently he has enough to create and outfit a new super Legion
nope, Cawl had enough ressources, and 10 000 years of spare time
Rawbooty is only the guy who gave him the idea, he hasn't bio-engineered shit

Real scale SM, fuck yeah!

>>53282972
This.
We have stated intent, playtesting, and everything people have said so far is based on conjecture.
But you will still have retards like >>53283018 anyway.

=>>53280498
Nah there will never be "40k is dead, welcome our new franchise", it will still be 40k, but now Guillimaned 40k

>>53283018
>Orks and Tyranids dumpstered
wat!? The only thing they said about Tyranids is that Hormagaunts are faster than Eldar (who are faster than guardsmen), and they're about to eat Baal. No word on Orks except on the twin-linked article, confirming they earned a lot of shots for some of their weapons.
>tau's only weakness of melee gets negated and they can leave it at will and fire in the same turn while also being able to overwatch
only the "flying" units can, so battlesuits (and not even all of them). Their markerlights were nerfed to the ground (reroll 6s instead of +1BS), reducing Tau overwatch efficiency by quite a lot, and the Stormsurge is nerfed too. Also: they acknowledge in the T'au article that there's a problem with the Riptidewing (just like they acknowledged it for scatbikes).
>Tzeentch army fucked in the ass by the new summoning rules like Tyranids
you don't know how it works for Tyranids yet, and it's the good thing Tzeentch armies were nerfed.
>Eldar literally shits on everything that isn't Tau
how do you even know that!?
>melee all but useless because your dudes will almost never make it to the enemy
not if the rumors of "everything is an assault transport" and "charge out of no-scatter deepstrike is possible" are true
>lasguns can take down titans
correct, though judging by the current points and assuming the rules stay roughly the same, it costs you more points to field enough lasguns than it would putting your own titan on the table
>fabius bile can take down 3 with a sword
Instant Death is gone so no. Plus I really doubt vehicles will be squadroned, just to avoid these morale problems
>should you make it to melee range you shred everything and any dudes even looking in the same direction take hits
how is that a problem!?

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>>53284085
Where can I find more Anon?

>>53283666
Ok satan

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>>53280643
>just outfit every guardsman
This, desu

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Will Abaddon concentrate his resources on taking over Guilliam's half the Imperium or the isolated Imperium Nihilus?

>>53284375
The armless failure himself wants to invade Terra first.

So, what was the reaction of the High Lords of Terra to Guilliman becoming the new Emperor?

>>53284426
He's not the new Emperor he's the Lord Commander again.

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>>53284208

You only have to ask and you shall recieve

>>53284489
>He's not the new Emperor
>bears Emperor sword
>supported by Custodes
>making best super soldier
Actually he is new Emperor

>>53284392

So he's going to fail again?

>>53284489

He's the new Emporer thats legitimately better than the old Emporer

>>53284514
>>53284535
No he's not you fucking idiots he's taken up the position he had before he got put in the stasis pod. Read the fucking books.

>>53284554

Ahhhh....yes, my mistake. Just First Citizen.

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>>53284506
Praise the Emperor

>>53284506
Not enough hip and leg emphasis.
6.5/10

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>>53284518
Until we get new info I would assume that would be the case unless something strange happens like a Hive Fleet Leviathan finally reaching the Sol system.

>>53284554

Octavian wasnt technicaly Emporer either

>>53284648

I still don't understand what the tentacles are supposed to be. A god? The rest of the fleat?

>>53284814
the hive fleet coming into the galaxy

each 'tendril' is a swarm

>>53284554
>No he's not
He is.

>>53284392
I hope Matt Ward gets to write it. In coordination with Dan Abnett.

just so we get Failbaddon being punched through the roof of the Imperial Palace and back into his Fagship by Roboute read by Toby Longworth

>>53284814
You're just now understanding the size of a hive fleet. There's just just much Tyranids approaching the galaxy they form visible formations on that fuckhuge scale, which are called tendrils as anon said here >>53284835

>bug gets into car
>grab bug, try throwing it out of window
>fingers holding bug get stuck on cars ceiling
>accidentally squash bug in hand
handling civvies as a SM has to feel somewhat like this

>>53284996
it's not an actual visualisation of the Tyranids Swarm, the tendrils are just artistic renditions showing the paths of the hive fleets all belonging to the same Hive, Leviathan.

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>>53284996
Those are depictions from translucent fleet trajectories, not representations of fleet mass

>>53280977
The same place he got the resources for making the primaris my dude.
Also >>53281019 . Never underestimate the marysueness of Robot Gorrillaman.

>>53285120
>Tyranids could have been the big bad of the setting
>nope, it's Chaos again
>Tyranids become seventh fiddle to orks even

Wait i just realized something. Ward's finally done it: Since Guilliman is the leader of the Imperium and he's not denying his divinity( for the time being) then that means he's become the Imperiums Spiritual Liege hasn't he?

>>53280732
gee bill, war on TWO fronts, with chaos and mechanicum?

>>53284648
Technically, and mind you this is 5th ed. lore, the closest hive fleets to Terra are Scylla and Charybdis.

>>53285153

Lets be honest is there even any big good?

>>53285018
The Dawn of War II cinematic trailer disagrees with you. It shows the swarm entering the atmosphere as literal tentacles.

>>53282393

The little kiddy bringing Tigerius and two flyers to a "friendly" game, as well as a chapter master in termi and a termi death star?

>I still won, Dark Eldar Master Race.

A single chadmarine is worth 600 cuckmarines

>>53285322
So do you like the new Primaris Marines or do you hate them?

>>53279929
Every single astartes will eventually fall to Chaos

Autistic edgy resented manlets vs noble, flawless, enhanced Primaris masterrace

Chad marines are going to take all eldar wymin and you can't stop them!

>>53284426
>So, what was the reaction of the High Lords of Terra to Guilliman becoming the new Emperor?
Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

>>53285628
They got fired the moment he took over good riddance I say.

>>53285155
>Since Guilliman is the leader of the Imperium and he's not denying his divinity( for the time being) then that means he's become the Imperiums Spiritual Liege hasn't he?
Fark I can see it now!

>>53285285
atmosphere =/= Galaxy

>>53285645
and they somehow aren't in space before reaching the atmosphere?
The way I always imagined it is that tendrils are fractals. You can zoom in and always find more tendrils - until you reach the single organism scale, of course

>>53285689
to be visible on that scale and distance, the Tyranid Flood would have more mass than all the Stars in the Galaxy.

>>53285737
I know that. This certainly means they already ate many, many galaxies, and are probably snowballing.
Reminder we're talking of a setting where one million Space Marines can roughly defend/cover a galaxy spanning empire. Scale don't make sense in 40k.

Having the Primaris thing work out with no problem whatsoever would be the biggest plot twist at this point

>>53286627
No one would see it coming, shamalaymadingdong would sue gw out the ass

>>53281114
>>53280732
>>53280643
Holy fucking shit this is retarded. Please tell me you're doing this ironically.

>>53279929
>Implying it's not incredibly convenient that Robust Girlyman not only came back, but came back with Betterrer Spess Mehrines
>Implying it's a coincidence that this also happens around the time when apparently the Chaos Gods are about to unveil similarly powerful creatures they've been developing "with no connection whatsoever"
>Implying there's nothing odd about the fact that the Custodes are now going to leave the Emperor and the Golden Throne unguarded to follow Girlyman and his special new toys around, even though it would take irregularly itchy phantom butt-cheek on the Emperor's bottom for Chaos to invade upon Holy Terra and kill the Emperor
>Implying this isn't a ploy by Girlyman who will be in an "epic" twist revealed to be the new champion of Chaos Undivided, rumbling daddy dearest's jimmied so that the entirety of Terra will be frozen into a single giant golden egg
There writing's on the wall.

>>53285826

If the Tyranids had more mass than the Milky Way, the galaxy itself would dissolve due the atraction of their gravitational pull.

>>53280017
This is what I am dreading. "it will be fine" is not grim dark.

>>53285826
Tyranids don't consume "galaxies", they consume organic matter, which makes up a tiny fraction of a percentage of mass in a galaxy. they would have had to consume impossibly many galaxies to reach that amount of mass.

>>53284623
This guys painting skills are ridiculous

Why do they disable comments on the youtube?

>>53279929

The question is who is the "you know who". Arent there no less than 10 mortas and gods/demons that could cuase a flaw including those in the imperium doing it unintentionally due to there own incompetence?

>>53287781

Id be ok with it being "mostly" fine as long as some progression happens. Making a new status quo so to speak. Not necessarily Humanity being back on top but simply shaking things up

>>53287963
Because the YouTube comment section is autistic cancer and they would probably have to pay someone to monitor it otherwise. They just run their community as Facebook instead.

>>53284593
Foundation reference? Foundation reference.

>>53282381
One primarch literally put thousands of soldiers through miles of fortress, gun placements, landmines, and killing field and fucked them over at the last minute even then because his brother made better sandcastles than he did.

>>53288370
Plus they're all vat grown. Last time that happened, it was the Raven Guard, and we know how that wound up.

>>53280498
That's what 8th Edition IS.

>>53280498
It means you should probably burn all your minis then hang yourself

>>53287349
>implying terra needs more than the phalanx as defence

>>53288761

Well at least until Jaghatai Khan makes his apereance

>>53282381
Because GW can't come up with actual reasons for civil wars. They're terrible at writing drama and motivating characters. Every villain is basically just a caricature, because that's the extent of their imagination.

>>53279929
Whatever happens, I absolutely love his new armour.

I think second only to the Primarch Terminator Suits FW made, this is the best model of a Primarch. I guess there are some good looking non termies like Lorgar and Manus, but especially FW Roboute looks silly as hell. Biggest problem: FW Guilli isn't
wearing a Helmet, and robot is probably the one motherfucker in the galaxy who's learned his lesson about not wearing helmets and lives to tell the tale

>>53280783
And when they find out that the Ad-Mech withheld geneseed to make the primaris, as ordered by someone who is not their commander, the hissy fit will just get bigger.

>>53289130
Chapters give their geneseed to the mechanicus as part of the tithe. They did this to check for mutation and found new chapters, so no they would be happy that none of it was wasted.

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You're all ignoring the real question:

How are we going to save Guilliman from the space elf whore and have him instead start breading with best girl?

probably to late considering the Primaris Space Marines are eldar spliced abominations. Guillmans gene seed works fast you know. what im saying.

Shitposting aside its going to end badly.

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>>53290394
What kind of dere archetype would Celestine and Yvraine be then anon?

>>53290431

St. Celestine = kuudere

Yvraine = yandere

>>53290394
Go to sleep Celestine, Bobby G prefers to tap sweet eldar ass and make new chadmarines rather than being stuck with you and the blue midgets.

>>53290394


I want to BREED an entire legion with St.Celestine

>>53288473
It's also what the "Emperor" was in Rome as princeps. It was legitimately fashioned that way so as to "I'm totally not a king guys"

>>53284554
>Read the fucking books
why would I ever subject myself to that

>>53297518
But if you don't, how will you stay up to date with the weekly retcons?

>>53288396
>Making a new status quo so to speak. Not necessarily Humanity being back on top but simply shaking things up
so you don't like 40K

I really think that there is going to be a split in the Imperium again over what Roboute's doing. One of the reasons is probably going to involve the Ecclesiarchy being upset that he is not actually a god and he rejects the Emperor's divinity. (Though worse would be him thinking it is true and letting it get to his head) Plus I'm interested in how the Primaris marines will be getting along with the Unforgiven chapters, I'm sure they'll be keeping them at arms lengths since they could spoil the whole Fallen thing. (Mind you I don't really know what happened when all those Fallen popped out to help Roboute, does he now know about all that?)

>>53298114

I want 41k

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>>53284506
Immediate erection

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>Starting a civil war in the middle of a fucking invasion over some upgraded space marine (Who exist to stop the invasion)

Are you niggers retarded on purpose

>>53298576
if you want a different game, go play infinity

>>53299795
yes, we're 40K XD

>>53299795
You don't understand a single thing about the Imperium of 40K do you?

Lugft Huron of the Astral Claws (now the Red Corsairs) was declared heretic for withholding his geneseed tithes.

>>53289130
Guilliman was everyones Commander before and after his long rest.

>>53301122
>comparing some random fucker to Bobby "the aeldari rider" G.
>said no one was made so chaos shitters could have pirates
Threadly reminder of the outstanding level of chaos players and writers
>thinking that anyone on the empire forces would go against him when it's the second coming of Jesus but even a bigger deal
Wew

>>53285120
>hive fleet child sacrifice

>>53288438
The guy who monitors their facebook is some Ultrasmurfs playing intern named Nick. I don't see why they don't do the same thing for Youtube.

>>53302505
The bleed most of their interns to make the blood for the blood god technical paint.

>>53279929

I'm kind of nervous about the potential backfire in meta terms. People are really attached to their armies, and GW just coming up and saying "fuck all your regular ass spess muhreens, they don't matter, here we have the Super Snowflake Marines that are better than any of the other chapters at everything" seems like it would lead to some player resentment.

>>53302505
They would probably have to pay him more. Maybe they just don't want autists in the comment section screeching at Duncan or shilling other hobby products?

>>53303482
They pretty much had to go this route. The 20 old design hasn't aged with dignity.

>>53279929

The Emperor is dead.

Girlyman is the new Chaos God.

>>53304347
Girlyman is far beyond any Chaos God