Pathfinder General /pfg/

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Have any of your characters ever had a personal encounter with a deity? Tell us about it! Who was your character? Who was the deity? Why did they meet? What happened?

Since I was was asleep for the errata discussion, I wanted to weigh in as well.

I understand that PoW does to much damage and they're working on fixing it, which it's good my but I worry that changes like the ones to full round boosts might overly harm twf and features like defensive focus. Also, nerfing the damage of non-full attacks to fall in line with 1pp levels will just promote 1pp-style full attacks, unless the DCs of the low level condition inflicting strikes are changed to be IL based and not maneuver level. Nerfing damage is good, but not incentivizing the control options just makes them use 1pp tactics. PoW offered me variation in actions while keeping the ability to maintain 1pp damage levels. I hope DSP doesn't balance too much around the 1pp martials.

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How do I min-max a witch?

>>53265350

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW (embed)

Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj (embed)

>>53266415
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/rods/rod-of-abrupt-hexes/
Use this nigga to slam a bitch with Misfortune, Evil Eye, and then Cackle that shit pronto, turn 1

Turn 2, lay on Ill Omen and fucking Bestow Curse wif ya Quicken Rod. Cackle ya early shit.


Now they're right fucked, son. Keep cackling while they flap their bitch hands impotently and cry about it.

>>53266307
You don't even know what boosts are being changed, not all boosts and stances are being changed, chill the fuck out

>>53266457
I don't, but the concern is still relevant for the people who forgot to give golden lion two first level stances. I won't put it out then to overlook the twf and defensive focus things.

>>53266475
its not an overall change though, its a case by case change

>>53266484
I get that, but my concern is that they still might overlook it. I mean they though OD, RBS, BBPF were all fine on case by case examples

>>53266533
but the focus isn't even on things like thrashing dragon, its on broken blade, scarlet throne, and PF

people are acting like this is a huge overall nerf, when its targeted

>>53266415
>>53266451
A witch with a mount (either through making the familiar ridable, or crafting a broom) can keep cackling while retaining mobility.

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>>53266623
This.

>>53266415
Slumber hex

Once again, Augunas's Unchained Ninja is a shockingly legit class

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/unchained-classes/rogue-unchained/alternate-classes/everyman-gaming-unchained-ninja/

Did you ever see your character get laid to rest? Ever write your own eulogy?

Saw this happen last night

>>53266939
you gain brouzouf

>>53266939
I hope not. Be gentle, DM. You wouldn't kill a female PC, would you?

How would you artificially increase the population of a kingdom (conventional or magical methods)?

>>53266988
Declare anyone who shows up in your country to be an economic refugees and eligible for welfare benefits and free housing

We need a compromise candidate; malleable,flexible, likeable, no firm opinions, no bright ideas, not intellectually committed, without the strength of purpose to change anything.
Someone who can be manipulat....professionally guided, and leave the business of government in the hands of the experts.

>>53266963
I would. If you had to quit my game

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>>53265350
>No Anime Allowed

>>53266913
Augunas is really good at making satisfying crunch and solid mechanics, he just can't keep it in his pants.

>>53267035
Seriously if the man didn't feel the need to jerk off into his books he'd be as beloved as jolly

>>53267026
She can retire for personal reasons you know.

>>53267032
Ayyy

>>53267035
So guys I was wondering

What if all classes had both the same amount of combat-applicable skills, and not-combat applicable skills? Even if some are a bit less useful.

>>53267066
Death makes it more appropriate to pass your responsibilities on to the party and causes character growth

>>53267100
My character is not fodder. Only bad writers need to kill characters to have a good story.

>>53267125
Writers dont have to deal with a character suddenly being unavailable for the rest of the story and its more inappropriate to posess your character

>>53267157
Like, you know... You can plan leaving the campaign weeks before you say "oh btw I'm not coming next time or like ever".

>>53267173
Are you assuming that any player ever really does that? 99/100 they just up and quit

>>53267092
Maybe you could split the abilities they get up into categories. Things like can-always-be used, can-be-used regularly, can-be-used rarely, can-be-used-OOC.

Then you could just have characters get a similar amount, or at least similar strength of each.

>>53267198
Well I do that because I don't like thinking my character got killed.

>>53267218
Can we agree that classes are not really equal in roleplay? Like Bard gets to talk with and CONVINCE PEOPLE. And me, if I have zero charisma? I can make a really compelling argument, I'll roll bad.

>>53266939
Who was it for? Was it sweet?!

>>53267252
Bards should be the master of General roleplay, but a 10 Charisma Knight should have just as loud a voice as the Bard in a courtly setting.

It's not about what's fair, it's about what's right.

>>53267309
>It's not about what's fair, it's about what's right.
And I'll be fucked in a faggot with a harp gets laid with everything but a gruff war veteran can't make friends. I imagine what it's like when two people with 6 CHAR combined meet and it makes very little sense.

>>53267035
Color me ignorant, but I gotta ask. What's this about him not keeping it in his pants? Far as I know, the guy just likes to play Kitsunes a lot and use them in cover art for 3pp stuff.

>>53267298
It was for the party dad, and it was sad

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>>53267387
RIP chocolate man

>>53267376
The Grimoire of Lost Souls is sort of his magnum opus, it's an excellent system for binding spirits that also happens to have tons and tons of age regression, pregnancy, and furry fetish shit.

>>53267368
>And I'll be fucked in a faggot with a harp gets laid with everything but a gruff war veteran can't make friends.

No no, I agree with you, and I'm saying the DM should say the gruff war veteran is able to make friends, allies or even lovers with people related to their expertise - it's not about the Charisma in this case, it's about the skillset.

A princess should get just as weak in the knees for a dashing 10 Charisma Knight as she would for Florian, the 18 Charisma Bard from Gin Alley.

>>53267432
>it's an excellent system for binding spirits that also happens to have tons and tons of age regression, pregnancy, and furry fetish shit.

>Paizo releases a book that says people worshiping Lamashtu must try to get pregnant to get their obedience, or an Arshean must have sex and praise their partner's body, or Lymnieris worshipers get Age Regression tech
>But the moment Augunas takes a page out of that book everyone loses their GODDAMN MINDS

>>53267493
Well yeah, but none of that really lives up to the level of 'a panther jumps out, rapes you, and turns you into a busty female anthro panther that lusts after the cock of all dominant men and hates other women for getting near their glorious DICK.'

>>53267540
>sex obsession not kosher
Who are you and what did you do with the usual unhabitants of this thread

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>>53267614
I am you but stronger.

>>53266623
>A witch with a mount (either through making the familiar ridable, or crafting a broom) can keep cackling while retaining mobility.
I don't think that's how riding works.

>>53267309
It's not right to allow people to give themselves mechanical advantages just by stating shit in their background. That's why we hate freeform, remember?

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>>53267697
>mfw i love freeform

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>>53267717
That's it, I'm outta this thread.

>>53267697
Except PF has no mechanics for making friends besides the leadership feat or the incredibly shallow diplomacy rules.

There are no influence or connection stats. Having people in a certain situation pay more attention to you isn't a mechanical benefit, it's a roleplaying one.

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Who would have thought the rat would be the coolest character in a game full of dragons?

>>53263586
>>53263599

>>53267767
I mean.
Everyone would have?
Rinka was the most memed character even before the picks were announced.

>>53267775
I simply assumed that was residual RotJR hype

>>53267664
It is.

Controlling your mount only takes an action if you aren't linked to it. Witches are linked to their familiars, so a witch riding a familiar (through it being a mauler, and the witch being small sized, for example) can laugh away.

>>53267664
Like many things, riding is better for casters. A fighter needs to get close to full attack, and moving takes time regardless of who does it, fighter or mount. Meanwhile the witch can do all their stuff while the mount moves, they just need concentration checks.

>>53267797
The other characters are kind of one-dimensional and, dare I say it, anime.

>>53267888
Its not like Rinka -isn't- anime.

>>53267761
>Having people in a certain situation pay more attention to you isn't a mechanical benefit, it's a roleplaying one.
Yeah and how many GMs agree with that? They don't even let you make friends without rolling CHA.

>>53267775
You fucks still got no clue what "meme" means.

>>53267988
>Yeah and how many GMs agree with that? They don't even let you make friends without rolling CHA.

...I have literally never seen a GM do this.
I've never /heard/ of a GM doing this.

What strange alternate universe are you from?

>>53268019
>What strange alternate universe are you from?
I don't know but please get me out

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Should i play a monk of the silver fist or one of the punchy archetypes for warder/warlord instead?

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This nigga is right. How did I not even notice that myself when skimming over Ironfang apps.

>Charlotte is in heavy load with 70lbs. Actually has 85lbs of stuff with her.

How do you even miss something like this when you make a character?

>>53268150
People who habitually ignore Strength tend not to notice these things.

>>53266797
Also add in Nic dragging in the bedsheets and screaming "HOW IT'D GET STAINED, HOW IT'D GET STAINED" because he's a clean freak.

>>53268150
No one tracks encumbrance or hunger. It just isn't done.

>>53268194
If you don't track encumbrance this stuff happens. Frail 7 STR girl in chainmail and with a tower shield.

>>53268150
People are already making stats and equipment?

I want to apply to Ironfang if I'm not taken for Mighty Quest. But I have to wait for Mighty Quest to pick first.

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>>53268141
PLS RESPOND

>>53268225
So kawai~

>>53268249
(You)

>>53268240
It's part of the application. So... yeah?

>>53267493
>Paizo releases a book that says people worshiping Lamashtu must try to get pregnant to get their obedience, or an Arshean must have sex and praise their partner's body, or Lymnieris worshipers get Age Regression tech

That's because that shit is expected from Paizo. In Augunas' case, it's not that he wrote a bunch of sex-related stuff, it's that it's to the extreme level that >>53267540 brought up. If Paizo's book had contained "Arshea's worshipers have to get busy, in public, in an orgy of at least ten members, once every other day, in order to receive spells" then there would be the same level of hue and cry.

I mean, did you miss the fucking Demon Mother's Mask bullshit?

>>53267838
They only need to do those when the mount moves fast.

>>53268141
>>53268249
(you)

Also, all of them are pretty good. Fiendbound Warder is probably my favourite.

>>53268272
But I've never played a PF game...

>>53267824
>>53267838
I'm gonna need some source references to this, because I'm not finding it.

You could theoretically make a case for it with Animal Companions, but I wouldn't allow it, since that only makes Handle Animal checks into Free Actions, not Ride checks.

>>53268306
We can help you anon.

It will be fun.

>>53268281
Demon Mother's Mask is beautiful don't you DARE QUESTION IT.

>>53266623
What's this about crafting a broom?

>>53268306
Buddy, if you've got a character concept for Ironfang Invasion, apply with it. The worst that can happen is you get into both and have to tell someone you'd rather play in one campaign over the other.

>>53268318
I want to wear demon mother's mask.

>>53268381
>Hey we can craft this item in PLD-
>It would be one of the most redundant things we could possibly spend money on

>>53268293
I know they're all good but im asking which one is mechanically the best?

I want to see that promised Iron Gods game posted.

>>53268408
anon don't tell me you're trying to minmax

>>53268150
you don't miss it.

You just hope the GM won't notice since many of them never audit carried weight.

>>53268381
Who are you?!

Well, I hope the PoW errata makes Broken Blade allowable again. Even if it'll be mechanically inferior to the original, I like the fluff a lot and I want to incorporate it into my next character.

>>53268509
rory

>>53268509
A true degenerate.

All these anime and overlewd posters merely adopted the degeneracy. I was born in it, molded in it.

>>53268542
Broodie pls.

>>53268542
By the time you first saw a /pfg/ campaign you were already a veteran, and they were adorably vanilla?

What tier is Legendary Kineticist?

>>53268441
Pls.

>>53268448
Yes

>>53268339
The thing is, I'm thinking I might apply to both, depending on how time consuming they end up being.

In that case, the characters will have something in common. In the event I don't get into one, it's going to be the same character. It's not like the applications close fast, no?

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If you have to ask, you are not someone's Roll20 crush.
It is not you. It will never be you. There will always be someone better, and you will remain alone.
More than likely, it will be someone else in your group.

There will be no last-minute realization, no big dramatic reveal that it was you all along.
Get comfortable with that fact, and give up on your hopes.
It will be easier that way when the blow finally comes.
I should know. I did.

>>53268875
Pick which mental stat you want first.

>>53268889
Yeah. Just wait until Mighty is done (which is today or tomorrow?) And then decide if you want to app for Ironfang. Nothing to lose.

So, is that 1st level Solar Wind infinite ammo stance bad when applied to firearms?

>>53268926
I'm fine with any since shes going to be a cohort and my party has just about everything covered.

>>53268935
Tomorrow, last I've heard.

...Basically my character has a twin, and so I'd be playing both at once. Sort of helps saving on the art too.

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>>53268921
Pic related?

>>53268921
Can you cut that crap? Like seriously? Are you legit autistic or don't you realize what the shit you're talking about?

You see people post fictional character applications for D&D and you just go and ask them for sex? And then you make a big fucking deal about it? Holy shit.

>>53268921
Tell me about that penultimate moment, Senpai. We want to know of this unrequited love that spiraled into depression.

Who was it?

>>53268962
>He's using the twin trope

Anon, I want to protect your smile because that's one of the most classic, endearing ways to replace a low-level character. Shine on, you crazy diamond you.

>>53269046
I'm not planning to replace any lost character. The character just so happens to have a sister, and I thought it'd be fun to play as that one if I'm applying for another game and still want to play basically the same race and sort of the same kind of character. Visually and personality-wise, they'll still be different, and also probably different classes.

>>53268921
>There will be no last-minute realization, no big dramatic reveal that it was you all along.

this actually happened to me though

>>53265350
does anyone have a good DIY guide for a two way, wooden dice tower? the ones i found are either not two way, not wooden or don't have a tutorial part to them, just an exhibit.
this is not bad: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:617991 but looks stupid and I didn't get a price for the printing yet from the local printer.

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Don't hide it from me, /pfg/.

Tell me about the time your character was reincarnated into a strange/incompatible race.

>>53269253
Explain?

>>53269374
I would if I could, but reincarnate isn't something people tend to risk.

>>53268150
As far as I see being in a heavy load only reduces you to 15ft and armor penalties to movement don't stack with encumbrance penalties to movement. So that person is wrong.

How do you determine a Gestalt character's starting age?

>>53269374
i wish. sadly rarely play with druids near, and the one time nobody died.

>>53269476
Roll from the highest of the two starting age categories.

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What is a better setup for DPR, primal fury + scarlet throne or primal fury + black seraph?

>>53269471
Hm. You're right. Charlotte actually doesn't even take any penalties from being in heavy encumbrance, right? Since the armor's penalties on everything are worse. Could technically just slam on another 70 lbs of stuff. The 5ft movement speed as a full-round doesn't come in until 140ish lbs for this particular build.

Very strange build.

>>53269551
The former, Scarlet Throne is more useful than Black Seraph for raw damage.

>>53269471
>>53269571
I want to make a high-STR man that mercilessly teases the skinny, twiggy girl all decked out in heavy armor!

>>53268947
To expand on that, the part of Phantom Sun Stance I'm wondering about reads as follows: Weapons that need reloading, such as crossbows and firearms, are fully reloaded as a move action (and if the character possesses the Rapid Reload feat, he may reload as a swift action).

So does that mean multiple firearm attacks are futile when using this stance because you can only do 1 swift action per turn?

>>53269374
Had a human barbarian get reincarnated as a kobold once. -4 Str and -2 Con hurt like hell, the +2 Dex was damn near meaningless.

>>53269615
Yep.

>>53269580

Cool. I am playing in a game with a lot of undead and demons though, would silver crane be a better choice?

Did anyone do a round of reviews for Mighty Quest? Can't remember seeing one and it's closing tomorrow, but I might've just missed it.

>>53269664
I see. Looks like archers win again.

>>53269745
Don't think so. One reviewanon was doing Blood and Oil yesterday and that game just folded so he might be up for doing Mighty Quest if you ask nicely.

>>53269745
I don't think anyone gives a shit.

>>53269789
All that work

for nothing.

>Captcha: Platz Entrance
If only it wasn't his exit, catpcha, if only.

>>53269802
They're always an entertaining way to see the apps without having to read them.

Which celebrity players shill themselves the hardest, /pfg/? I want to know who I should hate.

>>53269019
I hope that guy was the "aaaaaaaa I want to be in an unrequited love" guy.

>>53269835
Nobody on /pfg/ actually cares about each other, all shilling is self shilling with varying degrees of subtlety.

Is Legendary Assassins in either of the troves?

>>53269882
I have like three anons that I want to be friends with, but the majority of you fucks are shit.

Should I take sharpclaw on my unchained rogue?

>>53268921
Hey Anon. Fuck you.
Get up you sad piece of literal garbage.
So what if your crush crushed you?
Pick up the motherfucking pieces and keep going, because if you think that not everyone's been broken in their life, you're fucking wrong.
Life is pain anon, and what you do with that pain is what makes it worth living.

>>53269932
Who are those three?

>>53269835
Ask not for the shill. Ask for the sabateur, either intentional or idiotic


Rory and 2hu for example

>>53269932
t. one of those three anons

Try to be less obvious next time.

>>53270014
I'm not going to drop the names of them in the thread because I ain't a fag. Just know that you are probably in the latter group.

Is it ever worth playing as a gunslinger if the campaign doesn't have the Guns Everywhere rule?

>>53269835
The undisputed king would have to be Rory. The boy took self-shilling to such a new level that we might as well just call it Rorying. And he's learned that it gets him attention so he won't stop.

Other standouts include:
Protag. While it might not be entirely self-shilling, gathering a cult of personality in the discord so they can shout about your newest character from the highest mountains to the annoyance of all others is pretty much the same thing. I tried to read Priscilla's app, but had to stop half way through the personality section because it was so painful. The discord groupies would have us believe that this is the best TSS has to offer.

Disk. Dude offered reviews anonymously for several games he was in giving inflated scores and undeserved praise to his apps and those of his friends. In the game of /pfg/ popularity contests, this guy learned how to cheat real fast and is still reaping the rewards as reviews beget memes beget picks.

Sappy. Valeriya was a masterclass in self-shilling. She picked a popular character, one who had just lost his shippingmate, and just would not shut up about how Val and Cas would be so cute together. From what I've seen her character from TSS is more of the same, trying to trade on the heat of Valimir by pairing her app with Captain Slow's from the very beginning. Fortunately it doesn't seem like she's getting much traction this time around. Good riddance.

MaximumSleep. After more than a few flops following Rubio sneaking in to RotJR on Etan's coattails, he finally decided to take a page from Rory's playbook. He spammed shit about Kyras mercilessly until he reached the same kind of "overmeme" status and got into Blingmaker on those laurels. TSS is more of the same, sarcastically pretending that he's trying to shut down the other memes by being a stupid overmeme, but I bet he's secretly hoping the overload of attention will get him into another game.

>Guns are shit
>Crossbows are shit
>Any ranged option that isn't longbow with manyshot is shit
Why aren't all ranged weapons dex to attack/damage, free, non-provoking, reload, with no misfire? Why doesn't each weapon type get a style-distinct feat at 6+ bab like bows with manyshot?

>>53269932
>that I want to be friends with
Well, what's stopping you? Chances are, they want to be your friend too!

>>53270074
The Protag shilling is being carried out by a single dude.

>>53270074
>Sleep's TSS app is a serious attempt to get into the game

You almost had me thinking this wasn't satire for a moment.

>>53270061
Yes, anon!

Grab a Distance enchantment and be your party's sniper! Also, note that in the 'Emerging Guns' rules, advanced weaponry such as rifles are available in certain, high-level treasure troves.

>>53270074
I really think the Sappy shilling is one or two anons who got obsessed with Valimir, not Sappy herself. Unless I'm mistaken, she had an application for molthune knights that was never discussed in the thread, but got picked for the game. It was only the sudden pairing of Val and Casimir that made her into a real meme player. If that were Sappy herself posting those ship theories, she'd have Valeriya diving into Casimir's pants, but as far as I know the characters haven't expressed any romantic intent at all in game. As you said, the trouser snake stuff is just a retread of Slow x Sappy so I think it would be a pretty fair bet that it's the exact same group of people who can't shut up about Valimir who are shilling the vampire girl.

Which TSS characters do you want to see get reviewed?

Which TSS characters do you want to see get shipped?

>>53270074
>[Disk] is still reaping the rewards as reviews beget memes beget picks
Disk's characters are hardly ever memed, he gets into the games he does flying under the radar pretty much every time.

>>53270328
>Which TSS characters do you want to see get reviewed?

All of them.

>Which TSS characters do you want to see get shipped?

Priscilla x BOSS so the turbomemetards can finally fuck off.

>>53270074
>People liking someone for completely normal reasons and talking about their character is basically the same as that person self-shilling

I'm pretty sure most of the Priscilla shilling is coming from people who have picked up on pfg being a crybaby about it and overreacting to anything containing her. Do you think the thread OP from two threads ago wasn't done to either slander her worse or just get a rise out of people?

Also yeah the first half of Prisc's personality is annoyingly written. I think Protag was trying to make it cutesy by going way to purple on the prose but imo it just made it hard to read.

>>53270379
>The mutual mindrape adventure continues.

>>53268225
I will do a mix of both. like I won't care how much knick-knack on you but at the same time, I won't let you drag around a 100lb statue without any appropriate penalty.

>>53270344
>>53270237
>>53270074
Disk and Sappy aren't the memesters you think they are, while it's true Disk was a Reviewanon and it's true he maybe added an extra point here and there for people he knew, it's really not the puppet master-tier stuff you claim it to be. Same with Sappy, who just makes fun characters that, if you squint hard enough, seem to pair well with the types of characters Slow makes. It's not a conspiracy, it's a coincidence.

>>53270381
>Also yeah the first half of Prisc's personality is annoyingly written. I think Protag was trying to make it cutesy by going way to purple on the prose but imo it just made it hard to read.
My big concern about Priscilla comes from this too. The first half of the personality section seems like it's written in what Protag feels is Prisc's voice. That's not the kind of prose I want to have to slog through in game and it's bound to get really tired really fast.

>>53270155
I'll consider that, then. As for archetype, if I'm going to be a sniper, I should go for Musket Master?

>>53270540
Why not a Slayer (Sniper?)

>>53270540
Take 5 levels in Musket Master and then go either Sniper Slayer or Sniper Rogue.

>>53270485
>Same with Sappy, who just makes fun characters that, if you squint hard enough, seem to pair well with the types of characters Slow makes. It's not a conspiracy, it's a coincidence.
This is a really good point. Slow has a type: rugged, adventurous men who could be saved by the love of a good woman. Sappy has a type: seemingly vulnerable young women who need a man to tame them. I dug up Sappy's app for MK:
https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4427535/
Read through that and ask yourself this: if Captain Slow applied for this game wouldn't his type of character pair perfectly with Alexandrine?

>>53270540
You should go for bushwacker. A combination of things can make you almost impossible to detect while sniping.

How do I into Fool's Errand, /pfg/? What do I take, and how do I build for it?

>>53270530
I'm not used to writing cutesy characters, so when I started Priscilla I think I just kinda let myself type, fell into a stride that felt ridiculous to me, and decided to just roll with it (the alliteration, for instance, was originally accident, but I thought it was a funny thing to happen and decided to keep and and even tack a couple more words on).

Reading back through it though, it is pretty jarring. And by no means representative of her voice (her voice is in the italics at the end of the "Why are you on the Jenivere" blurb" and the now deleted joke about running out of hitpoints through life-link healing)

I may rewrite that part later, now that I have a better grasp of the character and am more comfortable with their tone.

Also I know it's a useless thing to say but I'm sorry for the drama she's caused these threads

>>53270693
keep it and*

>>53270074
>>53270485
Disk and Sappy are mostly victims of the witchhunt for /pfg/'s littlefinger a while back. It started as a joke, but soon enough I think some people really just wanted to assign blame to somebody else for their lack of success with /pfg/ games. The spotlight turned toward those who had been successful and mostly kept their heads down, so naturally these two who tend to write pretty good apps and don't really call much attention to themselves in the general or discord got mentioned. You can still see the threads of how upset some people are about this whenever people claim that Disk reviewing himself gives him an unfair advantage or call Sappy a worthless clinger to Slow.

>>53270757
>/pfg/'s littlefinger
>implying it isn't a group of people who are all nice to each other in the discord and games, but actually hate each other.
It's like you didn't pay attention in high school.

>>53270074
It really amuses me that people are jumping up to defend every player mentioned in this thread except for Rory. Meanwhile, this entire post reads like a thirsty anon who's assblasted his TSS character isn't getting more attention.

>>53270862
Defending Rory means you are Rory, though. It's what the cabal told me, so it must be true!

It's time for another daily shilling of Ironfang Invasion. Come play punt-the-goblin and attempt to beat the current high score of 200ft.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77293/ironfang-invasion-adventure-path

>>53270883
>>53270883
SHUT UP, RORY!

Would you let the cute nerd in your group put a magic collar on you that inly she can remove, but boosts your int by 5 points? And she assures you there are no other curse effects. It only USED to decrease your int by 5, she fixed that!

Note, cannot increase your int beyond hers

>>53270656
Avoid Lock.

Rolled 2 (1d20)

I'll start doing some Mighty Quest reviews because I'm bored and feel like people would have fun shitting on my awful opinion or atleast the awful apps.

>1: Innser Tpunn Ame, Dwarf Fighter
>2: Pip Khaja, Catfolk Ranger
>3: Olu Dasra, Tiefling "Tyrant/Dread Vanguard Antipaladin of Asmodeus "
>4: Zotos, Human Unchained Summoner
>5: Ian Hale, Human Magus
>6: Lucid Redhand, Human Bard
>7: Proditonne, Kobold "Marital"
>8: Eudora Meade, furry aasimar Zealot
>9: TBD, TBD/Fill
>10: Kozuni, Gnoll "Psionic equivalent of the DOOM Marine"
>11: Maximilian Pennyworth, Half Elf Druid
>12: Troaza Marin, Lizardfolk Fighter
>13: Yamanagi, Oni Monk
>14: Vynelleth Aimi, Ryuu'Kigen (=homebrew) Mesmerist
>15: Maine Aruki, Gnoll Unchained Monk
>16: Leovin Vinsu, Tiefling Unchained Rogue
>17: Sayashi, Elan (some telepathic master race) Wilder
>18: Tetya, Catfolk Oracle
>19: Maslan Fior, Aasimar Swashbuckler
>20: Kaidyn, Kobold Gunslinger

Let's hope this rolling works or I'll be real embarassed.

>>53270905
Only if she POST THE CATMERE LOGS YOU STUPID ERPING SLUT! POST LOGS OR FUCK OFF.

>>53270950
You can fuck right off and cry in a corner about it. Lord knows no one else is going to help you.

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>>53270978

I know it's a bad idea, but I am enthralled by the idea of Masked Wrestler/Tetori. Literally a luchador, running around wrestling for justice.

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Rolled 10 (1d19)

>>53270926
Name: Pip Khaja
Race: Catfolk
Age: 22
Alignment: - Neutral
Class and archetypes: Ranger/oracle (oracle in the future maybe.)
Role: Range, nature Skillmonkey

Story: (Tribal?) huntress who trades with strangers against the rules of her clan. Always on the move. Has visions of the future. Saves a sailing merchant who offers to take her along as a guard.

Female catfolk with the given art is a real furry redflag, but it's sadly one of the better apps of the whole thing. Which isn't really an accomplishment but has to be said. Can't help but say that the story is boring, but atleast it kind of segways into the actual campaign unlike pretty much all the other apps and there's not much you can do with a 1st level start. It's also not cringy and gives an idea of the personality (adventurous, self-confident). IThe most glaring mistake is probably that there's no reason given as to why she takes the merchant up on his offer to leave her clan.

In a normal game I feel like this would never even be considered, but here it's one of the likeliest ones to be picked. (My condolences to the DM)

>1: Innser Tpunn Ame, Dwarf Fighter
>2: Olu Dasra, Tiefling "Tyrant/Dread Vanguard Antipaladin of Asmodeus "
>3: Zotos, Human Unchained Summoner
>4: Ian Hale, Human Magus
>5: Lucid Redhand, Human Bard
>6: Proditonne, Kobold "Marital"
>7: Eudora Meade, furry aasimar Zealot
>8: TBD, TBD/Fill
>9: Kozuni, Gnoll "Psionic equivalent of the DOOM Marine"
>10: Maximilian Pennyworth, Half Elf Druid
>11: Troaza Marin, Lizardfolk Fighter
>12: Yamanagi, Oni Monk
>13: Vynelleth Aimi, Ryuu'Kigen (=homebrew) Mesmerist
>14: Maine Aruki, Gnoll Unchained Monk
>15: Leovin Vinsu, Tiefling Unchained Rogue
>16: Sayashi, Elan (some telepathic master race) Wilder
>17: Tetya, Catfolk Oracle
>18: Maslan Fior, Aasimar Swashbuckler
>19: Kaidyn, Kobold Gunslinger

You ever notice that wenever we have one of these shity "no anime" OPs with not even a single discussion question, that the meme-game shitposting seems to double down on how shit it is?

Seriously, if you're going to make an OP to spite the anime cancer, at least make it an actually good OP and put effort into it.

>>53270656
Invest heavily into climb.
If you can get rogue talents, there's one that lets you roll Climb checks twice and take the higher.
Then Ninja Trick can get you a ninja thing that gives you a climb speed for another +8.

I think the best classes with Fool's Errand synergy are the Brutal Slayer stalker, Hidden Blade rogue, and of course the two archetypes in the fool's errand pdf itself.

>>53270906
Lock is very strong when you realize the style feat or stance for free action locks lets you Lock people in the middle of your move action and then drag them into better position before you attack.

>>53271067
Jesus fucking christ I just don't want people to keep fucking shouting 'where are the logs'. Fuck off, they aren't coming, stop just repeating this again and again. Fuck.

>>53268323
Pick up craft wondrous items and make a http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/broom-of-flying/

>>53271129
What does Fool's Errand do and why would you put skills into climb for it?

>>53265396

Two pairs of my players had a simultaneous marriage performed my shelyn herself.

>>53271164
I remember this story, it was CUTE!

>>53269835
Swimming Eagle.

Ultimately every shit fucking thing about this general can be traced back to him.

>>53271129
Why are Brutal Slayer and Hidden Blade better? What does climb even do for me?

>>53271203
you probably have no proof

>>53270074

Popular characters are stealing attention away from my character characters that people actually care about! Th-they must be self-shilling in the most shameless and underhanded of ways! The only motivation for doing nice things is to increase your own chances of getting into the latest MEME GAME!

If giving out manipulative reviews guarantees you a spot in a game, why don't you do it yourself, you dunce?

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> starfinder iconic: DAD SPACE edition

http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljti?Meet-the-Iconics-Keskodai

>>53271254
Because he's not an asshole

>>53271246
>What does climb even do for me?
If you need to ask this, I'm going to ask if you've even read the discipline's maneuvers.

>>53271203
You make an interesting point

>>53269745
Reviewanon did mine, mostly criticizing the lack of visible backstory.

>>53270074
>giving inflated scores and undeserved praise to his apps and those of his friends

>Reviewed his own character once. Gave it a 7/10, saying it was mostly a joke.
>Hasn't reviewed any big name applicants, except Amalthea, which he shat on, and DHB.

Boyo, you may want to do some research.

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>>53271117
Name: Maximilian Pennyworth
Race: Half Elf (Multidisciplined alternate racial trait)
Age: - 24
Alignment: - True Neutral
Class and archetypes: Druid. Will take a dip in (Infiltrator) Inquisitor.
Role: Crafter/Healer/Face

Story: A fuckton of completely unnecessary text. Also the character's grandpa seems to have some gender issues since he's addressed as both male and female on multiple occasions.

Grandpa is a powerful druid and has two daughters. Fights with settlers but eventually lets them settle as long as they don't expand further into the forest. Grandpa dies and leaves behind phat OP items, one of the daughters marries a human and gets pregnant. Expansionists try to kill them because they're blocking expansion. Only kill the daughter that has just given birth to Maximillian. Maximillian becomes a druid, but then also a civilized merchant. (Because these two mesh so terribly well, right?). People still want to kill him so he has to find adventuring friends to protect him.

Now, the story to this app is atleast somewhat intriguing, but literally everything else about this app is trash. The character has no personality. He meshes two concepts that are pretty much direct opposites. He has the typical "family left behind epic loot" shtick going on. His character image is probably the least druid-looking thing I've ever seen and is anime too. I'm not even going to touch on the image for his animal companion being an IRL dude with a horse mask.

Feels like this guy is 13.
Cringe/10

>>53269952
Pls

>>53271291
It seems that it's mostly for throwing people with one counter and one disarm as well, is that useful?

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Why am I getting hyped at the prospect of a campaign where you play a group of excavators wearing exoskeletons you can gradually bulk up with enhancements (which serves as your "magical" items) until they're Power Armor?

Like, you can scavenge bits of tech that aren't ID-locked to a person's signature, or you can hack the tech and slap it on after scrubbing the original information.

>>53271376
Because you want to play something that's not pathfinder.

>>53271347
It also gives you pseudo-flight, AKA "flight but you look REALLY dumb doing it".

>>53271325
Will you tripfag?

>>53271406
What about STARFINDER?

>>53269374
My aasimar paladin was ressurected into a gnoll

>>53271407
So why are brutal and hidden blade good at the discipline? The rogue talent thing?

>>53271347
+8 racial, double rolling, and then competence items on top of it is probably the highest you can boost any skillcheck, so whenever you roll climb counters you're in very safe territory.
The disarm counter is very good and the fact tornado slam is a swift action makes amazing battlefield adjustment at little action cost.
Skill point investment in climb pays off with The Ladder stance and for qualifying for its Martial Flexibility style feat.

tl;dr half of the fun things in fool's errand are tied to Climb, being able to use them almost without fail is invaluable.

Other standout maneuvers that don't involve climb or lock are Death at Ten Paces, the mimic maneuver, and the onepunch man maneuver.

>>53271431
Great!

Rolled 11 (1d18)

>>53271418
Implying there is ever a need to trip when reviewing.

>>53271325
>1: Innser Tpunn Ame, Dwarf Fighter
>2: Olu Dasra, Tiefling "Tyrant/Dread Vanguard Antipaladin of Asmodeus "
>3: Zotos, Human Unchained Summoner
>4: Ian Hale, Human Magus
>5: Lucid Redhand, Human Bard
>6: Proditonne, Kobold "Marital"
>7: Eudora Meade, furry aasimar Zealot
>8: TBD, TBD/Fill
>9: Kozuni, Gnoll "Psionic equivalent of the DOOM Marine"
>10: Troaza Marin, Lizardfolk Fighter
>11: Yamanagi, Oni Monk
>12: Vynelleth Aimi, Ryuu'Kigen (=homebrew) Mesmerist
>13: Maine Aruki, Gnoll Unchained Monk
>14: Leovin Vinsu, Tiefling Unchained Rogue
>15: Sayashi, Elan (some telepathic master race) Wilder
>16: Tetya, Catfolk Oracle
>17: Maslan Fior, Aasimar Swashbuckler
>18: Kaidyn, Kobold Gunslinger

>>53271432
Brutal Slayer and Hidden Blade have access to the climb rogue talents, but also both benefit from flatfooted enemies, so the 3rd level stance is a big damage and accuracy boost.

Hidden Blade is surprisingly competent at Lock: debilitating strikes can give an enemy a -4 to attack, enforcer gives then another -2, and then if you're a Thug that's an extra -2 on top of that, so your enemy is at -8 to hit against you and they can't walk away from you because they're locked.

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Is the adventurer's guide any good?

>>53271464
I'm just asking so that, if you roll mine, then I send you the full backstory, since most of the criticism was about how I didn't display that.

I did take it into account and agree it's not such a good move, so I'm sending it privately to the DM. But I'll be interested in hearing the review and more criticism is never bad.

>>53271432
Brutal Slayer is a STR/WIS-based archetype for Stalker, you'll be pumping Strength (and thus Climb) very quickly. Plus you get access to the rogue Climbing stuff (and remember, having a climb speed at all gives you a +8 to Climb checks innately; pretty nasty for Climb-based maneuvers).
Hidden Blade can be stapled onto Unchained Rogue, which means that your Debilitating Strikes will debuff them enough that your Lock becomes RELIABLE, not just sometimes-handy. You'll be amazing at crowd-control and battlefield manipulation between Lock, Gambits, and Rogue Talents for the occasional extra trick.

>>53271487
If you knock them prone with Tornado Slam as a swift action before that, they've actually got -12 to hit you because they're prone.

>I've played this exact build, and there was also a harbinger in the party
>GM needed a big box on the map every battle just to track every debuff

Which is the best bonded item for a Magician Bard?

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How do I steelfist commando? Just focus on unarmed fighting and pick up primal fury again?

tell me about DHB's TTS character /pfg/

>>53271665
No.

>>53271464
Name: Yamanagi
Race: Oni
Age: Technically 1, reincarnation is wierd.
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Class and archetypes: Monk / Drunken Master
Role: Frontliner

>Story: Gets summoned as a familiar to a mage. Mage dies soon after. Wants to die but too proud to sudoku herself. Starts trolling people so that finally someone snaps and kill her. The mage that was hired to get rid of her doesn't kill her but instead took her with him. There's some bonding going on. Yamanagi eventually dies. When she reincarnates her master is (presumably) dead. She wants to explore the land since he can't anymore!

Holy shit this app made me step down from the chair, but I'll keep the noose hanging for later. I'm not a fan of "anime" characters and especially pictures or muscle girls, but this one skirts the lines and makes it bearable. The story is well-written, lore-friendly, concise, amusing, comfy and cute. I personally prefer serious games and feel like this character would be a bit too exotic for games I'd host or play, but for this game it's perfect.

I like it and will feel bad for the player if they get put into a game with any of the shitty apps. I'll probably get right back on the chair if this doesn't get picked.

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Rolled 10 (1d17)

>>53271681
Fuck. I forgot the picture. Now I'm embarassed.

>1: Innser Tpunn Ame, Dwarf Fighter
>2: Olu Dasra, Tiefling "Tyrant/Dread Vanguard Antipaladin of Asmodeus "
>3: Zotos, Human Unchained Summoner
>4: Ian Hale, Human Magus
>5: Lucid Redhand, Human Bard
>6: Proditonne, Kobold "Marital"
>7: Eudora Meade, furry aasimar Zealot
>8: TBD, TBD/Fill
>9: Kozuni, Gnoll "Psionic equivalent of the DOOM Marine"
>10: Troaza Marin, Lizardfolk Fighter
>11: Vynelleth Aimi, Ryuu'Kigen (=homebrew) Mesmerist
>12: Maine Aruki, Gnoll Unchained Monk
>13: Leovin Vinsu, Tiefling Unchained Rogue
>14: Sayashi, Elan (some telepathic master race) Wilder
>15: Tetya, Catfolk Oracle
>16: Maslan Fior, Aasimar Swashbuckler
>17: Kaidyn, Kobold Gunslinger

>>53271681
>comfy
>cute
Bias coming in 3...2...1...

>>53271284
>Defending yourself in third person
No better than self-shilling

>But Im not even that anon dumbass!
Thats what they would say!

Wow this game is pretty fun, Ive been missing out.

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>>53271254
>>53271284
Honestly, reviewing other apps is a great way to see any problems in your own app. If the observations made are correct, then what's the issue? Why do you assume there is "undeserved praise"? Can you even point at a single review and say where this reviewer is giving the person a better or worse grade than they should be getting?

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>>53271662
Cry now that Broken Blade is nerfed.

>>53271487
>>53271535
Hmm, so if I were going brutal slayer, should I take bushi as well? Mithral Current seems less attractive on a str/wis, and death at ten paces replaces the wave strikes. Also losing the first stalker art really hurts, but the recovery seems too good.

>>53271284
Also, reviewing takes a decent amount of effort, a strong understanding of writing principles, and doesn't actually improve your chances of getting in.

>>53271464
>>53270926
Names and trips are useful when doing a particular activity as they allow people to filter you if they don't want to bother hearing your shit, and they allow swift location in archive websites if they DO want to trawl through your shit. Just drop the trip after you're done with it.

>>53271755
if you ignore the dance-based maneuvers, then Mithral Current is still pretty excellent. The recovery is also fucking ballin' as shit, especially since it's a free action after level 6.

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>>53271738
It can't be that bad and the archetype is still good.

>>53271774
Losing the stalker art at first makes it so you can't take one till third. And you'd want the flat for one and the two climb ones, and maybe the honor Bushido right?

>>53271761
>hats
No it doesn't. It just requires you to drop a couple of big words and make things sound fancier than it actually is if you like it and make it sound simpler/worse than it is if you don't.

It's just fucking attention whoring.

>>53265396
My group and I met (got kidnapped by) Iomedae and she was a bitch who blasted the group with 20d6 sonic damage (something like 70 damage).

>>53271731
Reviews of DHB have been literally nothing but attempts to jack him off.

>>53271731
My two cents from an outsider to this:

I deal on a constant basis with dumb criticism. Pompous idiots that consider themselves authorities on the matter but can't see for a second just how biased they are and how their "objectivity" is very much anchored into opinions, basic taste, primal reflexes. In some fields taste is very much a thing.

Therefore, criticism must always be taken with a lot of salt (not that salt Anon) and you must always background check whoever's reviewing you. You'll agree an anonymous board full of amateurs (especially on a thread where half the posters are anime fans / ERPs) is not ideal.

That said.

Reviews can often point out the most obvious points of contention. It's, in fact, YOUR job to be objective, and consider if the reviewer could potentially not be right, or if you persist in your belief that this "mistake" is part of what you are trying to achieve.

It's good to get plenty of reviews to at least receive SUGGESTIONS, which will bring a point of view you might not have considered at first and take you out of your narrow vision for your work. Shill or no shill, at least it's a return.

>>53271802
Better recovery method is definitely worth a stalker art.

Note that Stalkers can only take ONE rogue talent: I recommend the double roll one since you can get a climb speed from race choice or bloodforge feats instead.

Mixed Heritage trait from bloodforge can also let you qualify for the +1/4 stalker art FCB.

>>53271810
Do it then, if it requires no effort and a big payoff.

>>53271325
This app is an example of quantity over quality.

Don't do that, kids.

>>53271852
See
>>53271284
Just replace he with "I'm".

>>53271810
^
That guy is not entirely wrong

>>53271761
>and doesn't actually improve your chances of getting in
And that guy is not entirely right. If you correct some mistakes due to a good review, it kinda would.

>>53271830
I'd be DHB, I'd not like it one bit. Dishonest reviews are cancer no matter how hard they suck your dick. As an artist, a writer, or anyone in a skill-based field, you'd never grow. Ever.

>>53271830
Please. DHB has had moderate to good reviews because the majority of the characters he makes appeal. Not every review has been sparkling.

And of course neither of us are going to bother pulling up reviews to show the thread hat the other person is wrong, so it's your hearsay against mine. Given that most people still want a review, people are just going to write off your words as being whining about someone doing productive as jealous, rather than taking your side that there's a bias in a third party review system.

>>53271802
It's a pretty small price, imo. Granted, I also always take the extra art FCB and hate level 1 starts. I think the climb talent is just one, and the honor talent isn't too necessary. It hurts a BS less than a normal Stalker, since they want Killer's Implements ASAP, but

>>53271845
>>53271731
>>53271708
You know, unrelatedly, but isnt it a bit late to be reviewing submissions? I cant imagine any changes made right before the deadline are going to be good ones.

Is it madness to want to rewrite the Monk class to be better?

>>53271802
Losing the 1st-level art hurts, but it's not nearly as bad as you might think. Plus, in-trade, you get a better maneuver recovery method, two feats you want (but didn't have the room for), a better set of weapons to use because you no longer need high DEX (so you can feel free to use greatswords or whatever), and a really useful and mobile defensive set of maneuvers (seriously, "make a 5-ft step as an immediate" stops things that would kill you WAY better than anything else, since that completely shuts down full-attacks and the grand majority of other attack forms).

>>53271925
Better with what? Don't monks hold the title of highest damage per round?

>>53271810
>It's just fucking attention whoring.
So how come the people who get reviews tend to change their apps and have better chances of getting in? If people are doing reviews to shit over others and hurt their chances of getting in, it's the ones who get praised unduly who are going to be fucked, because those won't change the problems in the app.

>>53271909
Personally, I (Kozuni player) am constantly developping the character concept and so that is why I lurk around reviewers here. Getting more art, correcting details, testing new canons until the deadline. I do that for every character for at least a week before he / she's set in stone, but I can still add stuff a year later.

>>53271958
Would you trust a review of a "cute" character made by an ERPer to be impartial?

>>53271950
Really? Aren't Barbarians at the top?

>>53271958
>So how come the people who get reviews tend to change their apps and have better chances of getting in?
Do you have anyway of fucking proving that?

So what would be a good game for me to jump in on that I could play either a wizard or arcanist in and not get people shouting "REEEEE"?

>>53271996
I've got as much proof as the guy up here >>53271830
saying DHB reviews are just jackoffs.

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>>53271810

If we can't trust Disk to write a good and honest review, who can we? Everyone's got biases, even card-carrying autists like 2hu and DHB.

>>53271991
>>53271950
Both are incorrect. Summoners hold the highest DPR.

are scroll boxes actual boxes or are they cylindrical shaped because it says its still a move action to retrieve a scroll from them.

>>53272037
No one. That's why you don't fucking bother,

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>>53272046
This is a scroll case.

>>53272068
yes but scroll boxes are different. They hold ten scrolls instead of four, have higher hardness and hp and are watertight. It specifies scroll cases are not water tight.

>>53271810
I feel like people are missing the point of "reviews". They're not some objective look at things, they're fucking opinion pieces that give another perspective and are fun to read.

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Thank you all for voting recently for the game I should run.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77656/pathfinders-iron-gods

>>53272068
Textbook stuff.

>>53269471
She's over heavy load, though. She's above her max carrying capacity, and that does shut down movement.

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>>53272086
This is a scroll box.

If this is still inaccurate, assume it's akin to an oversized cigar box.

>>53272087
People treat them like they're fucking gospel. They make people act like fucking applications to play erotic goddamn elf games are high literature and they lead to nothing but drama.

They're not fun. They're pretentious.

>>53272061
>no-one can do something perfectly, so you shouldn't even try
Or one can provide reviews as best one can and get better characters out of it???

There are some hard and fast rules that signify a bad app, and simply stating that your app has some objective flaws like "FIX YOUR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR" is going to assist no matter what. You also don't have to listen to reviews if you don't want, if you judge them but don't think they are correct because of >some reason

It may point out you haven't said something very understandably so you might want to make things more clear.

Lots of ways reviews can help, even if biased.

>>53272093

>Core races only
>Level 1 start
>No 3rd Party.
>1 trait only
>Archetypes need to be "approved"

Aaaand into the trash it goes.

>>53271665
He's a serial killer that worships Norgrober and totally promises he won't murder the rest of the party in its sleep.

>>53272127
You sound like an anon who's salty about the fact they haven't been trying hard enough to get into games, and blame it instead on everyone else trying too hard.

I could get all existential saying that all human endeavors are only worth the effort people perceive them be, but if you think there are things better worth your time, leave and go do them.

>>53272093
>No 3pp
Well shite, that looked interesting for a minute there.

>>53272127
>they lead to nothing but drama
Only for characters that were causing drama without the reviews, because people latch onto every excuse possible to start shit.

>>53272160
Don't forget the fact he doesn't want to murder them so badly he's keeping himself heavily intoxicated while cooped up on the ship to suppress the murder sweats.

>>53272127
>People treat them like they're fucking gospel.

People treat them like they're gospel because people here, like anyone who joins a game through an application process, are starved for reviews. People want to read what an app does right, and what an app does wrong, people want someone else to point out a thing they noticed in a character application that rubbed them the right or wrong way, but was unable to really articulate that feeling until the Reviewanon came along.

>>53272093
>>53272152
>>53272168
The very first application is an android who is, and I quote
>anatomically correct and here is a SFW picture

>>53272163
Trust me I put plenty of fucking work into my shit. Then I realized pretty much none of it fucking mattered at all so I don't even fucking bother.

>>53272185
More like people here are starved for attention in general.

>>53272163
He's right about the fact that much of the criticism feels questionable at times. Such as how you're supposed to make a snowflake and ABSOLUTELY have to have a huge, dramatic backstory, as a more normal idea "wouldn't be considered".

Also yeah the TSS porn stuff, I mean I wouldn't review all that dickbait.

>>53272202
But you're still bothering to try and spread your nihilism to the rest of us?

I'm glad we matter to you, anon!

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I posted this last night before crashing. Got a good reply that gave me an idea, but I'd like to post it again before I make edits. It's an initiation archetype for slayers.

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>>53271712
Read the app and tell me the last paragraph is not comfy and cute to the max.

>>53271763
Understandable. There.

>>53271708
Troaza Marin, Neutral Lizardfolk Fighter of Dahak (formerly Apsu)

Age: 17

Role: Front-liner

Archetype: Dragonheir Scion (source: Pathfinder Player Companion: Legacy of Dragons) (Reviewer's Note: This is a fighter archetype. This nigga failed to mention it)
Draconic Bloodline: Blue

>Story: His parents get killed by a sand worm. He's adopted by two female paladins of Shelyn. They tell him to stop being a leech and start doing his own shit. He gets converted to Apsu-ism. He kills the sandworm with a band of mercenaries and starts partying. When he wakes up he's held down and geas'd to watch his two adoptive mothers get "strung up on crosses, then tortured, raped, and burned alive by the townsfolk right in front of him". Then they give him a good ol' torturing and leave him for dead. He sneaks back in and finds out the priests of Apsu want to kill the mercenaries. He poisons the oasis and leaves. Gets saved by priests of Dahak in the desert. He takes up faith in Dahak. In the end we get a metagame sneak-peak that the murderous priests of Apsu were actually priests of Apep.

This app actually got me on a rollercoaster of emotions. I really dislike the picture used (but atleast it's not furbait) and after the raping and murdering of his lesbian adoptive parents I was pretty much done with this app and thought this dude was just stupid and completely misaligned Apsu priests. While it crossed my mind that it might've been deception, I really didn't think he was going to pull it off. But he did. That ending really saved it and made me feel like a condescending idiot.

It's an engaging story, but I feel there's a fair amount of plot holes as it stands.
1/2

>>53272204
^
This

And we can all admit it.

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>>53272216
>Such as how you're supposed to make a snowflake and ABSOLUTELY have to have a huge, dramatic backstory, as a more normal idea "wouldn't be considered".

Except like half of the characters that have gotten into the less "anime" campaigns are pretty bog-standard normal as far as character backstories are concerned?

>>53272037
>>53271996
5 out of the 8 people accepted into overlewd got protag reviews, but to be fair I have no idea to what extent they changed their stuff in response. And its pretty hard to accuse him of bias when he doesn't actually rate the apps, just details how he thinks they could be improved and compliments them on a few standout points.

Rating apps is probably the worst thing a reviewanon can do and is probably responsible for all the flak theyre catching.

>>53272152
>Core races only
Plus android
>Level 1 start
Yes?
>No 3rd Party
If I allow any 3pp, I usually get flooded with people wanting me "to make exceptions for this 3pp too"
>1 trait only
1 campaign trait, 1 other trait that doesn't increase starting wealth. I'll look into clarifying the language on that.
>Archetypes need to be "approved"
The vast majority will be approved, just a few will be blocked. I can make a list of banned archetypes if that makes it easier.

>>53272271
>he doesn't actually rate the apps, just details how he thinks they could be improved and compliments them on a few standout points.
That'd be a pretty great format change yeah.

Rolled 10 (1d16)

>>53272229

2/2
Lesbo Shelyn Paladins kicking out a child at the age of 14-15ish seems to be very strange.
I'd assume the Apep priests started with a good aligned rhetoric and for some reason no one managed to figure out that they were telling falsehoods once they started shifting it to "burn, rape, torture and murder people". That part just seems to be very forced in and geas'ing him to watch is hilariously overkill. The fact that, after being beat down to near-death he, without any stealth experience, managed to sneak into their base, eavesdrop and then poison the oasis seems a bit far-fetched. I feel like I should also touch on the missing personality, but almost all apps are missing personality and the DM didn't ask for it. So I won't criticize a lack of personality anymore.

Overall, not a bad app. Not an outstanding app either. Having seen most of the other apps, still one of the top ones.

>1: Innser Tpunn Ame, Dwarf Fighter
>2: Olu Dasra, Tiefling "Tyrant/Dread Vanguard Antipaladin of Asmodeus "
>3: Zotos, Human Unchained Summoner
>4: Ian Hale, Human Magus
>5: Lucid Redhand, Human Bard
>6: Proditonne, Kobold "Marital"
>7: Eudora Meade, furry aasimar Zealot
>8: TBD, TBD/Fill
>9: Kozuni, Gnoll "Psionic equivalent of the DOOM Marine"
>10: Vynelleth Aimi, Ryuu'Kigen (=homebrew) Mesmerist
>11: Maine Aruki, Gnoll Unchained Monk
>12: Leovin Vinsu, Tiefling Unchained Rogue
>13: Sayashi, Elan (some telepathic master race) Wilder
>14: Tetya, Catfolk Oracle
>15: Maslan Fior, Aasimar Swashbuckler
>16: Kaidyn, Kobold Gunslinger


>>53271909
I'm not really reviewing so they can change it, but to make fun of the large amount of shitty apps. And maybe those who made good apps can use my shitty feedback for the future, because they're bound to get into this game without any changes.

>>53272229
>Read the app and tell me the last paragraph is not comfy and cute to the max.
Good motivations but cheesy. My counterpoint is that you're too emotional.

See rest of this one review.
>This app actually got me on a rollercoaster of emotions.
I personally felt it was edgy.

>>53272243
I'm not talking about those results. I'm talking about the criticism given. I've heard an anon, yesterday or the day before, that was basically saying RPG was all about slamming snowflakes together. Which I disagree with.

>>53272283
>If I allow any 3pp, I usually get flooded with people wanting me "to make exceptions for this 3pp too"
Just say "this is the allowed list, other 3pp are not up for approval, don't ask"

>>53272271
The ratings are arbitrary and look like they're done by feel rather than actually meaning anything.

Good points

>>53272312
>Just say "this is the allowed list, other 3pp are not up for approval, don't ask"
That doesn't stop them from doing so.

>>53272288
Good god, this please. I like the idea of saying an app is pretty fucking great or pretty fucking awful, but don't assign a number to it.

I'd even say you should keep the campaign-specific scores of Pulpiness or Smuttiness or whatever.

>>53272127
>>53272185

>People treat them like they're fucking gospel.

Which I've repeatedly stated is the exact wrong way to take a review.

A review is a single person's opinion on what does/does not make a good character. Oftentimes the opinions are supported either through evidence within the app itself, or by applying basic principles of creative writing. However, either due to a lack of confidence in their own creative ability or due to peer pressure, people kinda end up forgetting that disagreeing with a reviewer isn't a bad thing.

If you disagree with what's been said, then try to articulate why. Oftentimes you'll come out with a stronger understanding of the character or the techniques used in your writing.

>>53272288
>That'd be a pretty great format change yeah.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I don't put any thought into the numerical scores, and you shouldn't either. They're meaningless chaff that people whine about if they're not included.

>>53272332
My point too. I'm often told I'm not a very emotional kind, and I often say others are too emotional to think straight, but that's where that gets me to consider an app trash, and that gets someone else to consider it good.

You can't really say either of us are right. We are judging differently because our brains are different.

>>53272370
Or maybe you should stop trying to be a pretentious fuck and act like anything matters beyond you making the DM's dick twitch.

>>53272337
Then just ignore the questions because they specifically did something you didn't ask them to do? Or just say "people who ask even though I said don't ask are being dropped from game consideration".

>>53272370
Can you continue reviewing the TSS apps, please? I want to see how mine rates!

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>>53271810
>hats

What do hats have to do with this?

>>53272407
Hold on, hold on. I am liking these Mighty Quest ones so far

>>53272410
Clearly, the reviewers play TF2.

>>53272160
>>53272183
t. anons who didn't actually read the app

>>53272407
And which one is that?

>>53272407
Me too!

>>53271138
But why would that let you move as a free action?

>>53272407
There's more than one reviewanon on those, isn't there?

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Man, I just want a campaign set in Galt and centered around either growing fat off the Revolution, ending it in the name of Republic, or pulling a Napoleon and forming a Revolutionary Empire that consumes the Northeast.

>>53272457
From his app:
>Above all else he holds his own survival, and ability to return to his great work in Magnimar to be tantamount. This includes keeping his fellow expedition members alive and functional for the duration of their voyage. The overall group survival heavily outweighs the expedition's stated goals in his mind. Due to his urges having in the past overpowered him, driving him to kill the prostitutes, he has needed to take relatively radical measures to ensure he stays docile while not in a combat situation. This has taken the form of picking up a rather heavy flayleaf habit while on the voyage.
>Due to his urges having in the past overpowered him, driving him to kill the prostitutes, he has needed to take relatively radical measures to ensure he stays docile while not in a combat situation. This has taken the form of picking up a rather heavy flayleaf habit while on the voyage.
Literally drugging himself so he doesn't murder people on the boat.

>>53272037
What about Vult?

What could go wrong?

>>53272044
Hmm, I see. Anyways, I'd want to rewrite Monk so it gets a bit of that Unchained and Brawler love. One might call it the best of three worlds, but that still might put it on the middle tier when it comes to martials.

>>53272093
Fuck, I saw this game in the listings a couple of hours ago, and I had a feeling it was you.

>That first application
So is this gonna be an ERP as well, or...?

>>53272509
Unchained Monk is fine right now as full martials go.

>>53272463
Obviously, the one that is the weirdest for the campaign!

>>53272544
Yeah, but it does miss out on a lot of the stuff that makes monks base-cool

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>>53272299
I didn't find the Oni one to be too cheesy. But this one was certainly very edgy. Almost all of the apps are either cheesy, edgy, silly or stupid. Overall I'm just grasping at straws here. When pretty much all apps are shitty, the better ones do tend to strike out.

>>53272297
Name: Vynelleth Aimi
Race: Ryuu'Kigen (13 RP) (Custom Race)
Age: 137
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Class and archetypes: Mesmerist
Role: Controller

>Story: Is a homebrew dragonspirithuman-hybrid dancer from Tian Xia. Hears of a powerful magical artifact. Goes to find it. Gets some dream sequence about a castle and an eastern dragon(?). Gets branded by the sequence and also sees images of magical objects. Goes to find said objects.

Right off the bat this is snow-flake to the extreme. Super special asian dragon spirit people that can only be found in this one place? Not for me. No thanks.

The story is very nebulous, strange, and doesn't really touch on anything but the reason on why she enters the campaign. Which is still good enough and something that's lacking for the rest. I also feel like this character's personality is portrayed the best out of the bunch so far, but "Beguiler" is very cookie cutter and easy to describe.

Way too much of a snowflake with alien story and concepts for my taste though.

>>53272493
He has powerful urges to murder random people that he can't reign in. He also targets the weak and sick and the families of his enemies. I don't think he's badly written but I'd be really leery of adventuring with this character. He seems more like a villain.

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>>53272543

>voice only

>ERP

>>53272332
As somebody who has graded college level engineering assignments, even with objective measures of correct and incorrect, we have to constantly go back over grades we gave to past assignments to avoid disparities over time. Typically you'll catch yourself grading more harshly at the beginning of the process and becoming more lenient over time as student after student makes a similar error. I doubt reviewanons are doing such bookkeeping and I'd wager their scoring gets more generous over time too.

>>53272227
Shameless self-bump. I really want some criticisms before I continue working. Basically you can just jump to the bottom of the file for the important bit.

>>53272607

How many goddamn engineers and engineering educators do we even have here?

If you're not vult that makes 3.

>>53272589
I see nipples.

Pierced nipples.

>>53272590
See, the thing is, Adrian is fine. He seems like a fun and helpful person to have around.

The Laughing Man is the problem.

>>53272607
not a teacher but can confirm

>>53272631
Hey man, why you attacking engineers all of a sudden?

>>53272631
The hobby tends to attract some specific types. I don't know of anyone in /pfg/ that's a military man, but I bet if you asked during the right hour you'd get half a dozen replies.

>>53272678

I'm not. I'm watching a HS-level senior engineering project class finish up their stuff right now.

>>53272493
>>53272590
>>53272667
Read the fucking app, if you're not a member of the Council of Ushers or a literal prostitute, you're safe.

>>53272717
What I copy pasted is literally from the app.

Also:
>thinking no one on the boat will be a prostitute

Question for the GMs out there.
What's your stance on early-entry Mystic Theurge, entering at level 3?

Assume it's not a gestalt game, obviously.

>>53272736
They're sluts, anon.

Sluts are not prostitutes, they DO IT FOR FREE.

>>53272590
>He also targets the weak and sick and the families of his enemies.
Why does he do this exactly?

Okay, would Steelfist Command/Dynamic Striker (Brawler) be a good combo? It boasts plenty of punching power and it also has buffs for the party.

>>53272762
They're easy to kill.

>>53272739
IF you can get all the prereqs by level 3, I have actually seen builds before with it, so its not impossible.

>>53272463
Disk, can you just review the other memes (since you already did Amalthea) to get them out of the way?

>>53272667
I feel like i remember this application from another campaign too.

>>53272543
No, no erp. I will simply fade to black if it ever comes up.

>>53272717
It's okay because he only randomly kills prostitutes? What did prostitutes do to deserve this? It's unreasonable and violent. Why is he drugging himself on the ship, then? Is he drugging himself solely for the sake of any prostitutes he'll come across?

>>53272755
Why does he target prostitutes and not sluts?

>>53272921
Prostitutes monetize sex and are thus the first rung up the AnCap ladder.

>>53272589
It wasn't a bad app (Oni). I liked it too, it's certainly quality and one of the best. "Earnest friendships" just tend to make me uncomfortable.

>Super special asian dragon spirit people that can only be found in this one place?
And that place is Second Life. kek.

>>53272944
Would you kiss that dragon

>>53272921
Because nobody goes to the cops when their prostitute goes missing, but everyone goes to the cops when their slut does.

>>53272961
Heckin' no.