>Assassin specialized in long range shooting >Speaks rarely,

>>53111722
power fantasy self inserts are bad character archetypes

>>53111722
Sure thing mister Coldsteel

>>53111722
Psssssh nothin personnel kid

>>53111722
>has an extremely cynical and nihilistic sense of humor
No, those characters are usually horrid.

>>53111853
A character with a Bronn-like humor is the best. The humor of a mercenary who sees the world as disgusting, depressing and violent as it is but kinda love it because the only thing he knows how to do is killing for money, and a pretty dark world offers a lot of occasions to practice his favorite skill.

>>53111944
Bronn the bro. Played once a character inspired by him, he was a fighter with some levels in rogue. Fun times were had.

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One shot one kill.
Proper, silent and perfectly executed contract.
Damn, I love my job.

>muh ghost training brain-controlled ass-ass-in who's fully integrated into/understands a cruel and malicious world on a level no one ever should
>better archetype than fruity and pompous elves
u wot

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Psh

>>53112013
>gaylordius of the green leaf with a thumb stuck up his ass
>better archetype than rowdy and tipsy dwarves
u wot

When did assassins go from being, well, assassins just doing their job to being edgy teenager nuthin personnel nihilist with a sense of humor caricatures?

>>53112065
mid-80's

but that's probably only when I first became aware of it

The most boring character to play as/with.

>>53112065
You can be a proper assassin who do his job perfectly and have a nihilist sense of humor. Plus, live from killing other human beings will logically develop a pretty dark sense of humor, while the lifestyle of the assassin is pretty dark in itself. Or maybe the guy will keep an ordinary sense of humor and a cheerful attitude, but it will highlight his sociopathic tendencies and what is more edgy than a Joker-style psychopath who laugh innocently while slaughtering people ?

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"Boo!"
"Nucular (sic.) launch detected..."
"You call down the thunder..."
"...now deal with it!"
"Almost counts in horseshoes AND nuclear strikes!"
"I think the female ghosts have nicer equipment."
"Did you see that? (pause) Exactly..."
"Pain don't hurt... (painful grunt)"
"Today's forecast is...extra bomby, slight chance of mushroom clouds."
"I see live people. (two shots are heard) I see dead people."
"Whenever I see a world untouched by war, a world of innocence, a world of lush forests and clear rivers. (pause) I really just wanna nuke the crap out of it!"
"You have something on your face. (gunshot) Got it."
"I'll paint the town...dead."
"Feeling lucky, punk?"
"We all got it coming, kid."
"Make my day."
"I know what you're thinkin'..."

>>53112038
>hurrdurr muh rocks and alcohol in lieu of any real thought or character depth
>better than archetype than rambling autistic gnomish tinkerers who are probably responsible for inventing all of the tools that the dwarves use to indulge their asinine fascination with minerals in the first place
w a t

>>53112065
I still see both. But to be honest. The assassins just doing their job feel like some anime-woe-is-me character while the cynical wisecracks are fun.

>>53112138
>>53112206
Why do you think there is a dichotomy between edgy sociopath, anime woeo-is-me and cynical wisecracks?
Do you think soldiers are those things? At the end of the day, both assassins and regular soldiers made the life decision to kill people as their occupation.
An assassin isn't anything but a specialized mercenary. Why do they have so much cultural baggage?

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>>53111722
>Definitely the best character archetype

...for angry man-children who weren't hugged fucking *ever* when they were little, sure.

For other people, the best character archetype is the handsome, charming Danny Ocean, who does his best not to kill and is all honour-among-thieves. Really your idea of what's best says a fair amount about you, but the idea that there's one single universal "best archetype" is kinda short-sighted.

>>53112242
In my opinion the soldier who goes to work to just kill people with a serious mood the whole time is just a boring psychopath you'd find on Criminal Minds.

I'd much rather read about the one's who joined to protect something and developed a dark sense of humor among their squadmates to make light of their shitty circumstances.

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>>53112301
Especially (You)

>>53112242
Assassin's lifestyle is darker than soldier's lifestyle. Soldier kills people he knows, or at least thinks, to be enemies of his nation. In his head, what he do is good (if he kills people while knowing that they are innocents and that what he does is useless, but does not resign, then the guy is a fuckin psycho (yes, there is the case of the soldier doing horrible things because he's forced to do, but I talk about modern soldiers)). An assassin can be hired to execute people that he knows perfectly to be innocent and to have done nothing, or almost nothing, to deserve what will happen, except lacking a little bit of respect to the wrong guy or just hearing something he shouldn't.

>>53111722
>Not playing a support sniper-assassin who uses things like long-range security hacking, wall-piercing vision/superior vantage point, and priority target elimination to assist teammates and has a yappy, dog-like robot buddy spotter
>Not being pleasantly conversational and also being the Party's DJ and setting up the best songs for each encounter
>Not being the first to be taken out of action via an off-hand shot out the window from the target building to show just how badass the boss is.

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Best archetype is Robin Hood.
Just imagine the shenanigans.

As far as assassin archetypes go, the best is probably the consummate professional. Might not even like what they do, but it's their job and they're good at it. Perhaps they try to counter-balance their work life by r

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>>53111722
>extremely cynical and nihilistic sense of humor
>Sense of humor
>Humor
no, they are living weapons, nothing more.
Y'all fuckers need to watch this for what a Vindicare character would be like

>>53111722
best archetype is the coward whose main concern is his own survival.

>>53112405
I didnt realize just how much fun the Robin Hood style "Lovable Rouge with a Heart of Gold" archetype was until the Nikolai Dante storytime a while back, now its my favourite when done well.

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>>53112421
sounds like the HERO OF THE IMPERIUM

Best type of assassin character is a completely normal character of a more mild background who falls on hard times and simply starts killing people for money, however their skillset allows. That "one shot one kill" "nothin personnel" shit is played out as fuck.

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>>53112510
Another fun rogue archetype is Arsene Lupin.

>>53112528
His finger clips right through the magazine.

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>>53111999

>One shot one kill.

Only one kill? you need more training son.

>>53112596
A RIVER IN A DRY LAAAAAAAAAND

>>53112647
I've been hired to kill one guy.
I never make any useless victim.
That's what I call a well executed contract.
This is your first lesson, boy.

>>53111722
>Has been trained to be a living weapon more than a human being
>Is part of an organization in which members see themselves as a large family

What did he mean by this?

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>>53112662
As long as we're going that route.
But seriously, read the Arsene Lupin books. Coffin Island is one of the best.

>>53111722
>Intelligent, nihilistic, and a wicked sense of humor
You're literally describing me.

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>>53112674

>imperial assassins
>"hired" to kill the commander of an army
>well no point in poping off a few of the other top dogs while im here

Pro tip boy. Imperial assassins are not "hired" we are sent on missions.

I think i found you here though. the tau got a good pic of your body suit!

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>>53112764
>autist saw a 40k image and thinks it is a 40k thread

>>53112752
I was going to ask you if you needed help for sucking your dick but it looks like you can do it yourself.

>>53112764

Holy fuck, the vindicare in this picture looks way to juiced. Even a space marine isn't that jacked.

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>>53112792

>Oh shit i got btfo!
>Damage control mode: Engaged
>I KNOW! ILL CALL HIM NAMES!
>LOL I WIN NOW!!!!

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>>53112838

>>53112812
But the character he's describing is literally me.

>>53112792

>OP post a picture of a Warhammer 40k character and describes similarities of what's in said picture.

40k is the most talked about subject on /tg/, you're the autist for thinking this wouldn't happen.

>>53112181
>lolsorandumb XD goggle wearing gnomes
>better than a proud family man who just does his day to day job (like a lumberjack or something) to support his wife and children
Excuse me?

>>53111722

>The nature of my profession requires me to be a people watcher
>I suppose I would have trouble in polite society but I feel I have a vantage no one else does
>I can see how people really are from behind my scope
>And when the time and situation affords it I can watch them as they pass
>It's times like that you can really get to know someone
>Would you like to know what sort of man your commander was?

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>>53112764
Ha !
You would have got a point if I was a imperial assassin but I'm not. Posting a picture of a Vindicare assassin don't implicate that I talk about a Vindicare assassin.
Your mistake illustrate your lack of training.

That was your second lesson, kid.

>>53111722
>solitary
Shove it up your ass.

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All these fags fighting over who the 2nd best assassin type is.

Bitch you mess with the best you die like the rest.

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>>53112764
>"What'chu gonna do? shoot me? come on you little corss-eyed blue baby bitch boy do it or so help me god your mother will die in her sleep tonight if you don't reply this this post."

>>53112837
three wounds counts for a lot, you know

>>53113151
fuck you

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>>53112837

Well he fucked up so bad he got into CC. My thought was that he did this enough he figured it was a good idea to get jacked.

Or its really a callidus assassin. Or maybe im a callidus assassin trying to make you think its one. Or maybe your mother is really a callidus assassin. then again you might be a callidus assassin trying to make me think im a callidus assassin.... one can never know.

>>53112625
>clips

>>53113071
The fuck is that box blocking?

A giant dick?

Is it an actual box? Did the imperium stick a post it note on a black box saying 'deliver to Tau theatre HQ' and the blueberries just ignored the vomiting delivery boys?

So many questions...

>>53113212

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xflp04zBD4Y

>>53113212
The Tau have never seen a human dick before, that's why they're all freaking out.

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>>53111722
>Speaks rarely
>Solitary
I'd much prefer to talk and be sociable.
after all, I love to camp

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Amusingly enough is _this_ the sniper-class assassin in one of my campaigns. Nice, social and bakes some mean cookies. Makes it easier to get into good positions when everyone thinks you're someones mother...

>>53113280

What about aun va? His look is one of disapoint.

>>53113303
He conducts the gue'vesa neuterings so it's nothing he hasn't seen before.

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Look at this, kid. Killing is an art, you know ?

When I aim for my target, I feel a deep serenity. The only that exist are the prey and its hunter. My bullet and the brain in which it will be soon.
I count : One inspiration, one exhalaison. Then I press the trigger. No need to watch the scene, to observe the head explode in a bloody cloud, to see the corpse collapse and to guess the surprise of the passers-by. It would only ruin the picture.

Killing is an art. I am an artist. My rifle is my brush, and I only paint in red.

>>53113787
That's pretty fucking gay desu.

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I love desperados characters.

>>53112625
Augemtic fingers, son.

>>53112953
>muh brown-haired male human fighter wearing all-brown with shit on his boots
>better than a tragically melancholic tiefling warlock who strives to rise above the base nature of their birth but constantly finds themselves seduced by the lure of easy power
Are you even trying to have fun

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This is my favorite assassin archetype.
He does it because it's his job and he's good at it.

>>53113203
His finger magazines through the clip
Better?

>>53113945
You forgot to mention it was an assault bolter

>>53111722
Vastly inferior to the assassin just putting in his hours, with the white-collar cubicle worker "man I hate my job" attitude, just doing it for the paycheck

You edgelord

>>53113151
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJ

>>53113979
I always liked the concept of an assassin who gets home from a long day of killing people, and just has the most normie home life possible.

>>53111722
The problem is really that it means that you do almost nothing outside of combat if so much of your character is based around rarely speaking and being solitary. You don't relate to other members of the party or try to get involved in most other interests.

It's not the worst archetype, but it's a lonely one that sucks for anything that's not fairly straightforward, or has people wanting to be your friends for narrative reasons.

>>53111837
>NIHILISTIC SENSE OF HUMOR

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I love how /tg/ hates an actually entertaining character archetype because it's """edgy""" (which is entirely a buzzword that has lost all definition) while shilling for retarded gimmick characters meant purely to create lulz and destroy any sense of immersion in the story.

No wonder you all like those dumbass Japanese cartoons, except even some of those can be somewhat serious from what I've seen of them. You like Rick-and-Morty type ironic lolzrandumb garbage.

>>53111827
That's Mr. Jack Coldsteel to you, punk.

>>53114878
who here shilled for retarded gimmicks other than that one gnome guy

>>53111722
Asides from "long range shooting", this pretty much describes Geralt of Rivia, so you may actually have a point.

>>53111799
>tfw you're wrong

>>53114878
I like how you just recycle stale memes instead of being productive

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>>53114878

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Whats going on here?

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>edgelord
>best anything
>not being a tool of justice
>not protecting the weak
>not giving your all to protect and have fun
>implying an outspoken fun guy isn't the best archetype

>>53116647
how are these not Khornate abominations?

>living chainsaw filled with methamphetamines
>BLOOD DEATH KILL REEEEEEEEEEE
>not Khorne
shit just dont add up

>>53116899
They've been trained via electroshock to attack Khorne.

As soon as Khorne tries to offer them gifts they screech autistically and attack in futility.

Khorne actually feels bad for the little guy and lets him on his way.

>>53116899
Could you imagine what would happen to a world if Khorne gifted a Eversor assassin the ability to reincarnate every time he blows himself up?

>>53116899
How are Sisters Repentia not Khornate abominations? Faith.

Eversors are constantly getting pious messages and sounds played in their heads. Any desire to serve the Imperium is turned by drugs and surgery into a suicidal fanaticism.

>>53112359
People have a wonderful skill to explain their wrongdoings to themselves. I can imagine lot's of ways an assassing could see himself and his job other than "heh, nothin' personal, kid" -tier edgemasters. Though the latter might be just easier option in RPGs.

>>53117136
>Khorne tries to talk in Eversor's head
>can't even hear himself because Rules of Nature is playing too loud

>>53112764
This picture is beyond retarded. Why would 2 types of fighters who work in long-range combat and armed with long-range weapons close within 1 foot of each other? Better yet, why would, in all the time it takes for a tau to close, the assassin be sitting there like a dope with his gun pointed at the ground while the tau charges gun pointed ready to fire?

Jesus Christ these modern artists.

>>53114878
>You like Rick-and-Morty type ironic lolzrandumb garbage.

That's actually true

>>53117738
a cheap artist's result after given a short deadline to depict two riflemen facing off in a setting he's not into.

>>53112147
SCBW version is much better.

SC2 ghost sound like a gay-not-gay trihard.

>>53116141
Nothing I said was incorrect, though.

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>>53111722

>>53113913
>Crawling in skin snowflake race donte wanna-be
>Better than clannish noble savage dragonborn that comes to see the party as family and imparts onto them the secrets of draconic gastronomy

Pardón?

>>53113913
>muh edgelord marysue warlock with UNIMAGINABLE POWER
>better than a devout crusader paladin smiting evil everywhere he goes
Better than you, obviously.

>>53113195
>Neural Shredder kills a robot

>>53113071
Culexus cooks the souls of almost soulless creatures

>>53112764
>Vindicare doesnt tap those fagets with his pistol

wat

>>53113195
What the fuck is that Fusion Blaster doing?

>>53117738
>Why would 2 types of fighters who work in long-range combat and armed with long-range weapons close within 1 foot of each other?
well for starters, the carbine's a close quarters gun

and in the context of the story, the assassin was fleeing an army and ran right into a group of scouts

>>53113151
I hate you. That happening is a very real concern for me and I'm terrified that one of these nights I'm going to find her not breathing.

>>53112242
>Why do they have so much cultural baggage?
Because they visit fatal violence upon noncombatants. Same as killing civvies in a war.

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If and when I play another assassin, I'll play him up as a birdwatcher/nature photographer with a gun. Not a hunter, a birdwatcher. Like he looks around with binoculars, looks for someone with a huge hat or odd behaviors, and watches them in wonder for a few minutes, maybe even makes a sketch. Then he shoots them.

>>53111722
Sounds like a bit like a gary stu or alternatively that guy to me.

>>53117738
Thank god you haven't seen the picture with the Leman Russ and the Hammerhead. Probably the same idiot artist.

>>53113212
I'm guessing there was text on that box in whatever codex that picture is used in but they released the image without the text because GW literally refuses to let even a single paragraph of their intellectual property be seen without money changing hands.

>>53111722
>best assassin
Only one choice!
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

>>53116647
Drugs!

>>53111999
>>53112647
>>53112674
>>53112764
>>53112994
this is the worst thing i've ever seen

>>53120016
>furry incest and food fetishist
>better than the streetwise orphaned halfling who gets by on his wits alone while guided by the spirits of his mostly unknown ancestors

>>53112065
Grosse Point Blank

My favorite assassins in any medium are the Dark Brotherhood from TES (specifically Oblivion) because for a guild of murderers they're extremely nice and pleasant people.

>>53111722
>Speaks rarely, has an extremely cynical and nihilistic sense of humor
>Has been trained to be a living weapon more than a human being
>Solitary
I don't get why people do this in a group based roleplaying game.

>>53123084
I can see it, but not really as an origin. More like something that happened after.

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>>53112674
>>53112647
>>53111999
>two autists pretending to be assassins who both pretend to outrank the other one
please, for the God Emperor, gut yourselves.

>>53111999
>>53112647
>>53112674
Autism

>>53113979
>>53114288

Person with extremely dangerous and immoral job having mundane life otherwise is a cliche, but one relatively great one.

>>53117152
Stop. My dick can only get so erect.

>>53117212
Sure, but Sisters have been turned before. Like when that Chaos Commissar had a voice that instant-mind controlled anyone who wasn't a Grey Knight.

>>53111722
Well, I can't be too snotty here, I've played my share of ninjas. Reverse trap Kim Possible in a fantasy campaign, space-pikey boxer slash cargo handler, both ended up working like the fucking Midnighter. Not-Kim Possible even worked up a Door equivalent. (teleport but can only jump from an unobserved place to another) The space-pikey couldn't do that but got good enough to onepunch not-aliens and shrug off the poison.

Shit, I even tried to make your character in Twilight:2000 back in the day, and he was as bad as yours.

Anyway, your character is bad. Seriously. It's terrible. Those two midnighters, they had something to do outside of fighting. Helping their friends, having a job that could cause trouble for them, baking booze in a horrifying bathdub that was great for people with healing factors. (It wasn't even good for him, he was a fucking pikey)

Your guy sits around moping and nothing personnel-ing. Long range sniper assassin is OK, it's just a role, you can get shit done. The recon part can be more important, letting your team pick their fights is a huge support function.

But that noncommunicative, antisocial shit? It's useless. OK, it's _generally_ useless. I've played with a fairly turbo autist who can be really funny and engaging but if he's not in the right mood it doesn't work and he know it. So he can Coldsteel when he's not in the mood and be lots of fun when he is.

But generally your character is bad. Terrible, even.

>>53112647
You've got nothing on me faggot, and I'm gay.

Enola Gay.

>>53112625
Or does his finger magazine right through the clip?

>>53120037
They heard the mission was in Tau Space and decided it was the opportune time to get shitfaced and forget half their gear.

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>>53120037
He does blast them with his pistol, but having done those sorts of jobs before I'd imagine either the artist wasn't told the exact details in the brief, or the story hadn't been finalized at the time he finished his commission.

I really like the art. Assassins being turbo Beef is sexy

>>53112242
Because, Anon, they have been played and portrayed forever by people who never went through the same. Those that come back from war have seen another world you cannot explain, only experience, just like mental sickness.

I know it firsthand, sadly. Don't try to make someone understand you have ADHD, that's already too much to handle for many. So don't try with anything that is psychologically different from the norm, like autism and high-IQ, or diseases such as PTSD, psychosis, schizophrenia, disorders such as psychopathy, etc.

Imagine for a second that the way people represent these archetypes is the same way Hollywood portrays realistic fights, or jrpgs represent gravity.

>>53112376
>Not being the first to be taken out of action via an off-hand shot out the window from the target building to show just how badass the boss is.

Edge alert, not where you expected it

>>53112376
>Not being the first to be taken out of action via an off-hand shot out the window from the target building to show just how badass the boss is.

Edge alert, not where you expected.

>>53112596
This sue?

How do you play as a proper dandy?

>>53113151
Lel

>>53127266
You don't stab women and you always skip your initiative turn for last because you're polite.

Op here, I think some people misunderstood me. The character that I described is obviously not a good one to play (antisocial, etc...) but when I say it's a great character archetyp, I say it for RPG and fictions in general.

>>53128178
No, I understood you, it's just not a good character. It's edgy, and edgy is not good in general anymore. Because the year isn't 2008-2012

>>53128436
Everything can be called edgy. That's ridiculous.

>>53128699
Really? How would you call a halfling that enjoys folk music, food and gardening edgy?

>>53113979
>Not an assassin putting in his hours but loves his job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDr9axb7X7E

>Cold pragmatic sniper on a mission, kind of a guy that would hang upside down in a tree for a week without twitching a muscle just to get the shot

>While off-duty, life of a party, most cheerful dude you'd ever meet, kind of a guy who you mention your money problems to and he drops you a month's worth of rent no questions asked

Find me ONE example I dare you.

>>53116783
What the fuck is up with farsight's feet on his suit?

>>53125809
Why don't go first if you hate people having fun so much. You know cause you're autistic enough not to ignore it.

>>53112417
This.

A vindicare isn't some kind of misunderstood anti hero, trained to be a weapon but who finds grim humour in shitty situations.

He's an emotionless robot, no humour, no compassion, no sense of individuality, nothing. An empty shell carrying a weapon, nothing to admire, nothing to share a beer with.

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>>53112752
>Thinks he's intelligent
>Edgy moral relativist tryhard
>Thinks having a sense of humour is the same as being genuinely funny

God I wish I could grow up to be as cool as you.

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>>53112994
>Posting a picture of a Vindicare assassin don't implicate

That's literally exactly what it implies. If I post a picture of the Master Chief and then start talking about super soldiers, nobody is gonna think I'm talking about Space Marines, unless I explicitly state so.

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>>53111722
This is a terrible archetype, for two reasons:
>every young male gamer thinks this is them
>I've known real people like this, and they're all assholes -- and not the "cool" kind of assholes, but genuine assholes.

>>53131530
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2387499/

I'll give that they're not going to hang upside down for a week to get a shot, but pragmatic on a mission, and able to be the cheerful, giving, easily talked to, life of the party? Sure.

>>53111722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lxbdBQV11E

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>>53111722
Cringelord thread? Cringelord thread.

>>53112359
I'd argue that the assassin is in the same position as the soldier. An assassin could be discriminate about the work they choose to do. They don't HAVE to "execute people that he knows perfectly to be innocent and to have done nothing, or almost nothing, to deserve what will happen", just like the soldier doesn't have to follow orders to bomb innocent people to keep oil prices low.

Like that other anon said, an assassin is just a specialized mercenary.

>>53112764
>Not in that picture: The Gargant Snikrot just slipped onto the planet.
>In that picture: Snikrot and a full mob of his kommandoes about to get krumpin'.

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>>53111722
Mental defective.

>>53131530
I've seen Magoichi Saika portrayed kind of like that.

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>>53113296
good social skills is a must
I prefer folks whose laughter is a bit more contiguous

summer already?

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>>53111722
>being this autistic
>not reveling in the faults your characters have
>not making those faults integral to your character's development in the game

It's almost like you don't know how to have fun, OP.

>>53112812
Learn to spot pasta references.

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>>53112792

>>53134561
I bet he has lots of trouble walking through doors.

>>53134581
The hilarious part is you can interpret it as him saying he's going to rape and kill her.

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>>53111722
if Leon isn't your framework for an assassin, you're doing it wrong.

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>>53140148
I can't believe it took this long to bring him up

>>53113151
ah shit

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>>53113151

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>>53111722
>has an extremely cynical and nihilistic sense of humor

>>53111722
They used to call me Prophet
remember me

Leon is my boy.