Do you think players would be willing to play a game where they

My players are huge star wars nerds so yes. I've run an alternate timeline game where Anakin dies on Mustafaar and the party was a bunch of bounty hunters and Dark Jedi who were trying to impress the emperor and become his new apprentice.

I can say that they'd love to play as clone troopers blasting Jedi or even battle droids.

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As long as the story is interesting and the gameplay is fun you can get players to do any setting.

>>53102831
Depends on how good the players are
It can easily fall into blindly following all orders of the player is lazy

>>53102831
Shadow Troopers with Teras Kasi, or Blaze Troopers?

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>>53102831
Get them to all play Republic Commando first, then any doubts would be removed.

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Clonetroopers and everything surrounding them were the only redeemable part of the entire prequel saga, including the EU material.

>>53102831
is this a sneaky way to make everyone play a male so that its a great game and everyone has fun? sounds like a good idea

>>53104041
Someone would just decide that their Clone identifies as female.

>>53104104
>Execute Order 63

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>>53104104
Fucking no

>>53102831
If the system was even half decent I'd play it.

>>53102831
Fuck yes I would. I will win the war those stupid fucking Jedi are trying to run into the ground.

>>53105650
The first thing that comes to mind would be Only War
but no idea if that's good or if there's something much better

>>53105650
Star Wars Saga is pretty good from my experience if you like d20 systems, it's simple but manages to balance Jedi and non-force users.

>>53103425
I disagree with you.

I'm not saying the prequels were great - they weren't. But they weren't any worse than the badly paced awful fight scene original trilogy.

Everything great about star wars comes from TCW, and the Dark horse BBY comics (especially the various old republic comics).

>>53105650
Saga and FFG are both half decent.

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>>53108450
>But they weren't any worse than the badly paced awful fight scene original trilogy.

I had an idea once and I still want to run it
>establish that they're doing premade char gen, paranoia style
>hand out envelopes with char sheets marked with only numbers
>hand out envelopes with character portraits
>different stats
>same portraits
>everyone is a slightly defective clone of the same person
>its the villain

>>53102831
>no qt 3.14 Jedi to bang between missions

Going to be a hard sell once they find out about that part.

>>53104185
Underrated post.

>>53103425
>>53108450
The prequels fucking sucked in terms of execution

Conceptually they had some good shit tho, the republic becoming the empire was fun, both the clones and the droids had some good aesthetic design, most of the locations and ships conveyed a lot of information at a glance.

Mostly just wooden acting, awful script and lazy direction that fucked it.

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>>53109169
TCW is the highest peak of Star Wars for me

>>53109169
Clones were, prior to prequels, the enemy army. As boring as that is, it's at least more interesting than disposable people vs disposable robots in which the populace has literally zero personal stake

>>53109169
This is really it. I really want to return to coruscant in the new trilogy, but it's probably been tainted so much by "I hate sand" that we'll never see it again.

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>>53109139

>>53109391
dude, coruscant got btfo'd in the new trilogy, the first movie, or didnt you pick up on that? that one planet out of seven planets that was being destroyed was coruscant.

>>53109409
>>53109391
wtf I hate the Disney Trilogy now

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>>53108450
>But they weren't any worse than the badly paced awful fight scene original trilogy.

>>53104185
Not bad

>>53102831
The character creaton must be really fast.

Speaking of clones, it reminded me about this scene from Ep II

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6aD-m7Cw84

>>53109409
According to wookiepedia that was the Hosnian system, coruscant is still a-ok.
Still, anything can be retconned at any time.

One time we played in a one shot as clone troopers. It was order 66 day and it ended with us turning on our Jedi with a big fight. It was pretty fun.

>>53109409
Spend five minutes reading even Disney's lazy information about what happened and you'd know it wasn't coruscant

>>53109409
The New Republic isn't actually based on Courasant. There are multiple city-planets in the galaxy.

>>53109630
>I am retconning the Canon. Pray I don't retcon it any further.

>>53109539
They'd call be combat specialists of some sort, but there's a surprising amount of variation between individual clones.

Would probably depend on what they were being raised for. Commando units have more individuality than line troops, but even line soldiers can be drastically different from one to the next.

>>53109304
Press F to pay respects

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>>53110206
>Press F to pay respects
>mfw the F stands for Fives

>>53109409
>dude, coruscant got btfo'd in the new trilogy, the first movie, or didnt you pick up on that? that one planet out of seven planets that was being destroyed was coruscant.

In the actual movie itself, they flat-out namedrop the "Hosnian System" as the one destroyed.

Or didnt you pick up on that?

>>53109616
Man, I forgot how obvious the CGI was in Ep II.

Kind of reminds me of an up-budget version of the cutscenes from DF2: Jedi Knight.

>>53110336
>Kind of reminds me of an up-budget version of the cutscenes from DF2: Jedi Knight.
>up-budget version

Is this something I'm not familiar with? Link?

>>53110347
Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight uses FMV cutscenes like Command and Conquer. That Ep II clip reminds me of one of those if they'd put more budget into it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GfgtBuhOxk

>>53110410
>IF

Oh. Based on your initial wording I was briefly excited that somewhere there existed an upscaled version, but I suppose I missed the word "an". Sorry.

Trust me, I'm very familiar with all things Kyle.

>>53110206
>>53110233
>FfF
>F for Fives

Use
>>53103173

to avoid
>>53102899

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Might be a bit overdone, but I've always loved the idea of playing Commandos that weren't affected by Order 66 and are declared traitors. Has so much potential for a lot of interesting shit.

>>53110566
>>53103173
>buy Republic Commando other day in star wars sale
>had all weekend to try it out
RIP
Well another week of sleep work sleep won't kill me. Probably.

>>53102831
I'll take it over jedi chosen one #3000

I would, it's a good exercise to see if you can roleplay a character based on what they've experienced in game rather than from some backstory.

>>53102831
Yes, Only War is good proof that players will play as standard infantry troops.

I'd suggest the 501st as they're so badass they became the Emperor's personal battalion after Order 66.

>>53103425
>Kemono Friends reaction image.
Opinion discarded.

>>53102831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYaNQ1R77Ug

I've always wanted to run a short star wars campaign with Troopers fighting against a Xenomorph infestation on board a derelict republic ship.
Leading up to a fight with a force-weilding Xeno born from a Jedi

>>53102831

I really want to do a whole session of the first attempts to colonize Endor for the Empire. Just fighting primitive domestic terrorist ewoks trying to murder you.

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>>53104505
>>53105662
my bro


>>53102831
i DID
>pic related

sad, because the ex-friend who played the jedi decided to cheat the fuck outta Order 66 and i got killed instead. shitty awkward poorly done ending.

>i was thinking i'd be cool to do an Order 66 ending closer to something like Quentin Tarantino doing Mice and Men
>...nope, nothing gloriously good, just awkward shitty player bullshit, and the GM decided to go ahead and kill my character too, even though any delay i had was for drama effect.

>loved the character.
>loved the setting.
>shit players.
>GM was a spoiled fucking princess.

>>53114107
My condolences for shitty players

>>53109304
F

>>53103425
>>53108450
>>53109169
>>53109304
>>53109346
>>53109616
Visually the clones are awesome. Concept-wise, a clone army is stupid as fuck, as was the robot army. Making them clones makes them really disposable, which is the opposite of what you want to do when you want to make people care about the war. They should have just been regular joes getting drafted.

>>53114107
story time?

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>>53114203
>Making them clones makes them really disposable
It changed the dynamic
Generally war stories involved what you said, regular people will regular lives.
Now with TCW there's a completely different dynamic that was explored in the cartoon. Exploring the mindset of a clone and what it meant to be one. Are they numbered disposable people or something more?
I find this option better than the same thing we've seen a hundred times just with a space fantasy spin on it.

>>53114219

sure. shall i actually namefag or no?

>>53114272
>TCW
I don't give a fuck.
FleshRobots vs MetalRobots were one of the supreme reasons the prequels sucked.

>>53102831
Sounds boring. It may have been done before.

>>53114311
Nah, just post it. I don't think anybody bothers enough to troll a story on /tg/

>>53114357
i am not afraid of trolls. besides, my name means little, it's just a tag.

>>53114107
>>53114219
so, didja want story time over the whole campaign or just the part where the players fucked it over.

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>>53114326
>prequels sucked
Revenge of the Sith is literally better than Return of the Jedi

>>53109421
It's not a common opinion, but it's an opinion.

I'm inclined to agree with it though.

Prequel trilogy had better fight scenes and pacing but had bad acting, no character development, and plot holes aplenty.

Most of the star wars movies are kinda shit for one reason or another.

So far the only star wars movie I have no serious complaints about is rogue one.

>>53114414
>so, didja want story time over the whole campaign or just the part where the players fucked it over.
post the relevant parts, I'm interested in how you cheat Order fucking 66

>>53114464
no.
The Anakin plot was ridiculous and unbelievable and all the main characters acted autistic as fuck to make it happen. The pace was broken up all the time. Literally no emotional investment in the characters was created. Antagonists were handled incredibly poorly. Fight scenes sucked ass. Picture Direction ranged from 'acceptable' to 'poorly'. Lot's of things make no sense in the greater story line of the hexalogy.

Overall it's a 4/10 compared to RotJ's 7.5/10

>>53114107
I don't know the circumstances of your game, but that honestly sounds like just about the best tragic ending a clone trooper could ask for.

Also that's a nice illustration.

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>>53114650
it's you know who

i cooked up a greentext but it's connection erroring my ass

is greentext now illegal or something?

you can post copy pasta right?

testing

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>>53102831
Sure, especially since their stats don't need to be exactly the same, nor their skills. Despite being clones they had a fairly decent amount of variety in personality but some still made better leaders or snipers or pilots. It's kind of a giant experiment in nature vs nurture. Despite having mostly the same genes* some difference that happened in their upbringing made some lazy, others bold, some reckless, some snarky, etc. Some willing to betray their brothers. Jedi tended to influence them into exploring what made them unique, much to the frustration of the Kaminoans who saw the clones as products, not people.

*There was some slight genetic variation from Kaminoan tinkering, experimenting with different ways to improve their clone armies. The most extreme results ending up with guys like the Bad Batch who would otherwise have been rejected as too aberrant.

dear 4chan, quit being a nig. wanna post text.

>>53114650
so, just in short, the player had seen the movie, so he just wanted his jedi to have the knowledge. i tried to salvage it, but it all ended up being shit.
my 'salvage action' translated to me having delayed an order 66, i was declared a jedi supporter and shot by my fellow clones who i loved dear.

very. shitty. end.

>>53115355
>bad batch

i thought erry last Clone was a Temura Morrison

what is with THAT pic?

>>53115387
>so, just in short, the player had seen the movie, so he just wanted his jedi to have the knowledge. i tried to salvage it, but it all ended up being shit.
What a metagaming fuck. That's why I make sure to change up the dates slightly on all background events every time I run stuff in established universes.

>>53115420
The genetic sample for Jango was stretched thin and the Kaminoans were doing what they could to fix things.

So they started producing some altered clones.

You know, I've always wanted to ask, What did people think the Clone Wars were before the prequels?

>>53109407
>clone troopers

Not treason.

I'm sure Palpatine would have put in a clause of order 66 for 'hot jedi bishes harem' anyway

>>53109169
>lazy direction that fucked it.
The prequels are without exaggeration the most ambitiously directed blockbuster movies of the past 20 years. The direction isn't necessarily always good, but it's never lazy, in absolutely any way.

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>>53115420
Cloning is an exact science. Cloning AND genetically manipulating the result has it's ups and downs. That's why they screw around with the genes in the first place, to see what works and what doesn't. The Bad Batch were very extremely different but still functional as soldiers unlike the poor bastard in pic related.

With that dude on the left it's entirely possible Tarkin was visiting Kamino and for some reason decided to spooge in a petri dish that was later mixed in with his genes.

>>53115449
ok.

odd, but ok.

>>53115428
it wouldn't have helped. this guy just didn't want his pet jedi to die (where i actually have a folder for my honored dead characters: i embrace game death) so he cheated in a really obvious way.
but, yeah, and the GM handled it like ass.

things like this are the reason i no longer RPG: you get the most spoiled-ass cunts and wizards with no sense of right or wrong.

the guy and GM have long since left my friend circle

>>53114203
>>53114326
You're a massive moron

>>53115499
>dozens of scenes of people standing and talking
>wacky cuts
>cheap cgi instead of actors or miniatures
you're wrong.

>>53115529
What a nice argument, you sure convinced me of how awesome the idea of a faceless clone army is. Fucking retard.

>>53115520
>tarkin spooge

i kek'd

>>53115455
A lot of people assumed that there were clones of the Jedi, and that Ben was one of them.

Obi-Wan = OB-1.

Quite frankly, you'll never find two people who will agree on what they thought the Clone Wars were before the prequels, though, at least not until Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy came out and included some references to the Clone Wars and a cloned Jedi.

>>53115499
>all those over the shoulder talking scenes with the well timed "the audience is getting bored, have one of them go look out a window or something" moment
>they spend so much fucking time walking in a plastic corridor or sitting on the fucking couch while they do this
>not lazy

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>>53115455

for just asking this question, you deserve a (You) and some hot star wars ass.

originally, the 2 trains of thought were:
A: you had good and evil clones of everybody (jedi too), so there was backstabbing and mistaken identity everywhere.
B: armies made of clones fought vs. the jedi. a lot of us assumed the Stormtroopers were similar to the clones. they were kinda right

>>53115640
I assumed people cloned important key figures as impostors, driving the galaxy to war with the Empire swooping in and unifying what was left.

>>53115691

right, but i was just reporting what most other fans in the 80's-90's thought.

i didn't care. sci-fi has throwaway background elements all over

>>53115538
>cheap cgi
Holy shit, how stupid are you.

Okay, first of all, even now, cgi isn't cheap. This is a huge misconception that gets spread around way too much. It's still incredibly expensive to this day, often moreso than practical effects, and it's now a long established technology. When the prequels were made it was unbelievably costly.

Second of all, the prequels did use a lot of sets and actors in costume and make up. They built as many sets as they did for the original trilogy, still used miniatures, and were more ambitious with practical makeup and costume. The only major exception to this was the clone army.

And most importantly, you have to understand, cgi was not used in those movies because it would be easier or anything like that. George Lucas has always had a massive hard on for innovation. The original trilogy pushed miniature, oil panting, and puppet specifial effects to their limits, and the prequel trilogy pushed new limits and horizons. CGI would be no where near where it is today if the prequel trilogy hadn't pushed it so far forward. They were the best looking movies around in terms of cgi when the came out, and only within the past few years has Revenge of the Sith really started to show age in it's cgi, it's effects held up better than anything else from 2005, and middle to low budget movies even 10 years later looked worse. The cgi doesn't always look great, but again, it looked a lot better than anything else did at the time, and cgi as a whole has progressed a lot because of those movies.

The decision to use so much cgi was not one made out of laziness, it was a hugely risky and daring decision, that took a lot of money, effort, and time.

>>53115727
Go to bed, George, clone troopers your movies look like shitty video games.

>>53115727
this guy
>>53115764
does not deserve this bullshit.
we know who the pleeb is when a well posted argument get that bullshit reply.

>>53115786
>>53115727
>too lazy to do the homework and add proper weight to clones like they did for yoda
>low-res textures on stuff like the animals in Ep1
nah

>>53115499
>it's never lazy, in absolutely any way.

Everything is done in soul less green screen. There are rarely any interesting shots, even mustafaar got messed up. Sitting around panning back and forth between people sitting on a couch, horrible acting direction, I can't even understand what movies you were watching

>>53114272
Except Palpatine's behind it all so none of it matters anyway. TCW is a farce because Anakin and Asaaj, Dooku and Ashoka all work for the same person.

>>53102831
Fuck yes I would love that.

>>53104185
good post

>>53102831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOZ-w3hbF8M
Yes

>>53102831
If I want to be just one in a crowd of a lot of people exactly like me I'll just go work in an office from 9 to 5 like I do during the week. I play games to escape that undeniable lack of anything special in my existence.

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>>53102831
>everyone in the party is physically similar
>at the end of camaign reveal that they are all clones of adolf hitler
stop me /tg/

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>>53118127
no, that's cool with me....

>>53118058

lame.

do you really think your co-workers are all alike in an office? you don't work in an office, otherwise you wouldn't believe that bullshit.

go fuck yourself. the best thing about being a mass production model is that you have no reason to conform, since you begin at the 0 point of deviation.. each and every clone trooper in star wars we see on screen begins taking routes to be their own character.

it is the very best thing about clones. they are exactly the same. yet they are so different after a short while of growth.

it gives us who are just a face in the masses a very strong beacon of hope

>>53114541

You have no complaint about that awful chirrut imhwe (spelling?) scene where because he BELIEVED hard enough the force decided to protect him?

Slightly lesser issue: Cassian's 180 personality flip that didn't really feel earned at all and Jyn's somewhat tacky HOPE! speach.

Not saying I didn't like the movie, I enjoyed it, but it had some glaring issues, more so than I mentioned here.

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>>53118127
There, all Hitler-clones are done for.

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>>53102831
I would. I'd love to kill whatever the fuck this is.

>>53109304
>>53108450
>TCW
>Good

You are contradicting yourselves anons

The problem with games centered around Clone Troopers is that from session one you already know how it's going to end.

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>>53119275
>You have no complaint about that awful chirrut imhwe (spelling?) scene where because he BELIEVED hard enough the force decided to protect him?

>blind man kicks all kinds of ass throughout the movie, including such feats as shooting down a tie fighter such that it impacts an enemy AA gun
>but that one scene where he walks out into enemy fire to save the day is retarded

>>53119275
Nah, he was just walking where the blaster bolts weren't.

But yeah shallow characterisation and a slow second act would be my main complaints about Rogue One. I'd have loved more stuff about that old crazy rebel leader too.

>>53102831
if it's anything like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WBY-C-VKTg
then shit yea, I want to be the blue one

>>53119275
>You have no complaint about that awful chirrut imhwe (spelling?) scene where because he BELIEVED hard enough the force decided to protect him?

Baze pls.
>It bothers him because he knows it's possible.

>>53102831
I fucking would.

>>53114203
>They should have just been regular joes getting drafted.
Would that really make people care about them? I barely care about the Rebels.

>>53122250
Not you, the Republic citizens. They would certainly care more if it was peoples they know and can relate to that get killed in droves, instead of some clone that is disposable anyway.

>>53115727
If it helps I don't think most people can properly identify what in the Prequels is even CGI most of the time. Some people still swear the entire thing is, which is sad given the amount of effort that went into the model making for the environments. One of the most hated on scenes I'm aware of is the hallway scene in the Jedi Temple. People love to shout, "PS2 GRAPHICS!" Thing is the scene was an old school combination of a full sized set and a matte painting. Even Dex's Diner has a lifesize interior and scale model exterior set. The Geonosian Arena was a model, so were the seats for the pod race complete with tiny model people.

http://makezine.com/2015/10/07/the-surprising-practical-effects-of-the-star-wars-prequels/

http://www.starwars.com/revenge-of-the-sith-behind-the-scenes

Feels like where the movie suffered was from inserting real actors overtop the footage of models, getting the lighting and shadows right. That's where a lot of the digital wizardry came in and given it is nearly 20 years old perish the thought that they weren't quite up to modern standards. They were pioneering most of the techniques that would later be refined into modern effects anyway.

>>53119275
Chirrut is low level Force Sensitive. Not a deep enough connection to gain any powers but enough to sense the Force in higher concentrations, such as in kyber crystals which is how he sensed Jyn's necklace. In background material his staff has a tiny sliver of kyber in the tip so that he can sense it's position at all times. Other than that he's the old trope, or if you prefer cliche, of how when once sense is removed the connection to other senses deepen. Without his eyes to guide him, or if you will even distract him, he can sometimes hear the whisper of the Force guiding him same as a Jedi's intuition or enhanced Force guided reflexes work. That's how he can shoot accurately, even took out a TIE at just the right moment to both save the X-Wing it was chasing and send it crashing into the base defenses. Even when the Force is with him enough to let him walk through fire and push a button it's only with him up to a point, a rather explosive point.

If it helps, in the new canon we're told EVERYONE has a degree of Force Sensitivity. This is because the Force resides in everyone. It's literally life, so every living thing has it. Only a very few ever make the deeper connection and gain abilities. It still manifests in everyone. What we would call intuition, feelings of deva vu, even feeling the doorbell or phone is about to ring before it happens. Han's flying skills may be aided by the Force even though he doesn't acknowledge it. Obi-Wan means it when he says there is no such thing as luck. There is only the Force. Even leadership, the ability to sway the masses, is a manifestation of making a deeper connection with others (via the Force).

Some people really don't like it, especially the idea that Han isn't just really really skilled despite being a complete normie. But it's just the way the Star Wars galaxy works. Yoda made it clear the Force is in fricking everything.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/775051626545504256

>>53123109
>Yoda made it clear the Force is in fricking everything.
Even clones. Early in TCWs series Yoda makes it clear to some troopers that although to the eyes they may look the same to the Force they are all truly unique. Maybe that explains some of the differences in their abilities and personalities?

>>53104185
What?

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>>53104185
/thread

>>53114326
>FleshRobots vs MetalRobots were one of the supreme reasons the prequels sucked.
You a dumb nigga. Enjoy TFA.

>>53102831
I mean if your players are mentally defective enough to think that the prequels aren't garbage they would probably accept anything

>>53123218
Chubby battalion forward!

>>53124032
Nobody said you had to like the movies, doesn't mean they can't enjoy the military wank of clone armies and droid armies with associated vehicles and ships.

This is /tg/. If you don't like military wanking you'll end up at odds with 70% of the threads.

>>53124195
This is /tg/. If you don't like the campaign the source material gives you write your own campaign. Be sure to send a copy to George Lucas so he can punch himself in the balls for not selling Star Wars to your genius ass instead of Disney.

>>53103173
This.
And have them read the Traviss's books to have a glimpse of their culture. Make sure to warn the players to take it with a grain of salt though, what's with her rampant fanboyism.

>>53124345
>Encouraging people to read Traviss' "novels."

You fucking monster.

>>53114541
>better fight scenes
Did it though? There was often so much flippy-dippy bullshit that stole all weight or made it hard to tell what was going on. The was good moments (Maul at the end of TPM) no doubt but was really that good on the whole?

>>53115727
You're right but that does not change the fact that cgi ageing badly hurts the films.

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>>53114203
Nigga the Clone Wars was the only fully fleshed out war of the Star Wars Saga, IMO.

I mean, shit
>the Stormtroopers and the empire forces are iconic.
>the Clone Army is distinctive.
>so is the droid army.
>Rebel alliance: ???

I barely saw the fucking rebels save for their starfighters. It's like the whole rebel force are just the pilots and Luke & the gang. Those guys in camouflage were forgettable. Like seriously, who the fuck is this guy?

>>53125078
That is clearly [infodump of the EU information on an extra that was in one of the movies for like 2 seconds] you faggot

>>53125090
God Wookiepedia is autistic.

>>53125112
Don't lay the autism at the 'pedia's feet, they've only collected it, it's all the EU writers that created the autism.

>>53108450
>Implying both Luke vs. Vader fights aren't pure cinematic gold
And the Ben vs Vader duel is a bit stiff but not nearly as much as people make it out to be.

>>53125044
>Flippy Dippy.

>He doesn't know that it is a reference on how Jedi-Shit is inspired by Asian cinema (OT = Chambara. Prequels = Wuxia)
>He doesn't know that it is also meant to convey to pleb audiences that the Jedi were full of life and vigor before their fall.
It's like those neckbeards complaining about how there were "too many lightsabers, a rare weapon," in the prequels when that is the point to begin with: showing the height from which the Jedi Order fell.

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>>53125078
Well, at least RO was good for that. Plus the Rebels had an absolute bitchin 'Nam theme to their apperance.

>>53124574
Hence my point of taking it with a grain of salt.
When I bought the books, I had heard a lot about it beforehand and wa on yhe look out for her fanboyism, which becomes apparent quickly. As long as you put that aside, it's an interesting view on the Mandalorians and Clones. But that's about the only interesting thing about the books really.
The forced romance, Mary Sue-ism and blatant favoritism quickly makes them annoying when not in combat, which happens more and more as you read through the novels, to end up with Imperial Commando where barely any action takes place

>>53125078
I do like that the new canon is slowly fleshing out the Rebel Alliance more, especially Rogue One showing that they have distinctive military and political branches. They weren't just the alliance to restore the Republic they were trying to emulate it, practicing what they preached, so they'd have some structure to deal with the victory should they ever see it. This may not have made them the most reactive force thanks to an overabundance of caution, understandable given the size and might of their enemy, and while I couldn't recommend the Aftermath Trilogy to anyone at least we saw that the Rebellion didn't do too badly for itself after Endor. They were very well poised to seize Imperial assets as the Empire itself, without the Emperor or Vader, struggled to cope with the chaos consuming it.

Might have been a big too effective, honestly, enough to freak Mon Mothma out about how much military might she suddenly commanded and convincing her to drastically scale back the navy and abandon Emergency Powers (the same ones Jar Jar had been responsible for convincing the Senate to give Palpatine in Episode II; when they said they were going to restore the Alliance they weren't kidding, picking up the exact same system in place up to Palpatine's declaration of the formation of the Empire). Then they proceeded to be so afraid of becoming another Empire or consolidating too much power in any one body that they were completely dysfunctional for the next thirty years until the Senate was blown up in TFA. Yay.

>>53125227
Ben vs Vader fight's dignity cannot withstand that one agonizingly slow twirl mid-fight. It just takes one moment for the whole fight to mark up the whole damn thing.

Mileage will naturally vary. Personally I like to think Obi-Wan was deliberately making the fight as sloppy and shit as possible to drag it out and frustrate Vader who will always remember his fateful rematch with the old master who left him a melted stub on Mustafar as the most ridiculously unfulfilling shit of his entire life. Especially in the end when Ben just throws the fight and vanishes leaving Vader at a complete loss.

>>53125378
Or, you know, we could all be adults and realise that it was old geezers that had no idea how to fight and that's about it.
Just headcanon a more active fight if you want to, with the point that Ben indeed decides to die at some point when he knows his work is done.

>>53125331
Never read her shit and I'm only aware of her from the shitstorm when TCWs started exploring Mandalore and she had her meltdown and declared them all the Taliban, or rather her own word for it "Talifans".

The funny thing is despite all that the have slowly been making it more like the old EU, especially with Mandalorians like Fenn Rau and The Protectors training Clone Troopers and some elaboration on their conflicts with the Jedi. I don't know if she'd be happy about their introduction of an ancient Jedi Mandalorian but probably wouldn't mind House Vizsla breaking into the Jedi Temple to steal his lightsaber and make it the symbol of their rule. Though she'd no doubt emphasize it less as them using a Jedi weapon than using it as a symbol of their victory over the Jedi. Playing up the idea that it isn't the weapon that shows your fitness to be leader it is keeping the weapon from all who would challenge you. It would help that the Dark Saber is unique enough that it doesn't quite call to mind the Jedi (hard to say since maybe lightsabers in that era were more like the Dark Saber. Ahsoka's hilts are similar though the blade is more traditional minus the color which has been linked to extremely old Jedi with Tera Sinube).

>>53125414
It was one old geezer who, while his acting career may have given him some fight experience, he was damn old at the time vs a dude in a cumbersome samurai gimp outfit he could barely see out of.

But that's a meta reason, anon.

>>53123218
>Squad THICC

>>53125482
Yeah, which is what I'm saying. Basically no need to try and justify the meta. Just headcanon your own fight if you want to, as long as you respect the important points.

>>53125513
Why "headcanon" a new fight as you seem to suggest by imagining something completely different took place in lieu of finding a reason that accommodates the meta? Surely the better reason isn't to play make believe over actually dealing with what is on-screen. Especially if you plan on actually discussing it with others who won't necessarily share or appreciate your reimagining.

>>53125559
True, true.

>>53125301
I know, I just don't care because it looked terrible.

>>53102831
So long as you're clones of a white guy, sure.