Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

I'm new to Aos, what do you think?:
Allegiance: Sylvaneth

Leaders
Branchwych (100)
- Artefact: Ranu's Lamentiri
- Deepwood Spell: Regrowth
Treelord Ancient (300)
- General
- Trait: Gift of Ghyran
- Artefact: Briarsheath
- Deepwood Spell: Regrowth

Battleline
5 x Tree-Revenants (100)
- Sylvaneth Battleline
10 x Dryads (120)
10 x Dryads (120)

Units
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Scythes
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Greatbows
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Greatbows

Battalions
Gnarlroot Wargrove (80)
Household (20)

Scenery
Sylvaneth Wyldwood (40)
Sylvaneth Wyldwood (40)
Sylvaneth Wyldwood (40)

Total: 1500

>>53061000
Isn't Wyldwood 0p if you have Sylvaneth allegiance?

>>53061000
You can't take Sylvaneth Wyldwoods as part of your army. You can create them with whatever abilities, but you can't take them like units.

They are also 0 points if you have the Sylvaneth Allegiance, so there is no need for you keep aside any reserve points for them.

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KO hater from last thread back to say I may have been too hasty with my judgement on them. After looking at the battletome closely I can see that they aren't that bad at all. GW put in alot of work with the details on the models and the lore is actually interesting. They aren't as cogs and gears as I first thought and I guess they are pretty original. However I haven't changed my opinion on the shitty fyreslayers. In fact after seeing the KOs the FSs look even worse in comparison. They are ugly, uninspiring and lazy. Their lore is lame, their aesthetics are shit and their rules are shit. They are easily the worst army GW ever put out in fantasy.

>>53061000
>>53061123
Oh, also, while you CAN take the same spell twice if you want to, you can only cast it once per turn in matched play, so you may be better off taking something else on one of the mages.

Would it overly complicate/break the game to try and implement some sort of "push" mechanic in combat?
Like, say I have a bunch of guys in a shieldwall in melee with another unit. Something like instead of attacking, they can push everyone forward 1-2". Same thing with I wish there was a middle ground between "stuck in place" and "full on retreat". Like a tactical step backwards.

>>53061148
>FSs look even worse in comparison. They are ugly, uninspiring and lazy. Their lore is lame, their aesthetics are shit and their rules are shit. They are easily the worst army GW ever put out in fantasy.

This

KO's make Fyreslayers look even more embarrassingly shit and i didn't think that was possible.

Those flying things you posted look at as bad as the Stormcast angel dudes, i feel flying units that aren't daemonic just flat out do not work visually in AoS, but i gotta admit the KO troops and ships look good.

>>53059485
Add an arachnarok and add webs and spider tattoos and face paint to all the ogres.

>>53061000
Dryads don't get the bonuses at 10 so only take them in units of 20 or more. Like the others correctly pointed out, Wyldwood do not cost points if you are a Sylvaneth allegiance, which you are. My Gnarlroot Wargrove is similar to yours and I have success with it. For another caster, I'd take either a Branchwraith or a Branchwych, either is fine, they will likely be your Mystic Shield/Arcane Bolt caster.

>>53061227
I agree but those edrineers are the only image I had at the time.

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so what's the next big release going to be?

Here's hoping for Shadow Aelves

>>53062089
I really hope they will release a nurgle battletome along the nurgle release in 40k - death guard gonna be included in 8th edition starter set.

>>53062089
It will be elves, and they'll be in grand alliance death.

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>>53061148
M'lady

*tips*

>>53062135
Fuck chaos shitter. Nurgle is the worst of all the chaos gods and chaos is shit. We want more Death releases asshole!

>>53062148
I'm okay with this.

Nagash learned black magic from them to begin with.

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>>53061148
The only thing about the Overlords I have any real dislike for is the ridiculous top hat on Brokk Grungsson. It's completely out of place not just in the wider Warhammer setting but even within the Overlords themselves; he looks like some terrible cogfop steampunk character thrown into the middle of Dwarfs that are otherwise surprisingly true to the traditional Dwarf aesthetic.

Allegiance: Order
Saurus Sunblood (120)
- General
- Trait: Legendary Fighter
- Artefact: Phoenix Stone
Saurus Eternity Warden (140)
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160)
Skink Starpriest (100)
10 x Saurus Guard (200)
10 x Saurus Guard (200)
10 x Saurus Warriors (100)
- Clubs
10 x Saurus Warriors (100)
- Clubs
1 x Salamanders (60)
1 x Salamanders (60)
1 x Salamanders (60)
5 x Chameleon Skinks (120)
Bastiladon (300)
Stegadon (260)

Total: 1980/2000

Reposting because Ive a game coming up soon and need to get stuff painted

>That one model you love, but is terrible in games

What's her name, /aosg/?

>>53062480
Centigor and Dragon Ogres

Admittedly Centigor don't really have 'good' models but still, Centaur creatures in games are always shit and it upsets me

>>53062209
I didn't say I don't want death release Anon - I just hope for something for nurgle

>>53062480
Warp lightning cannon. Stormfiends are more efficient points wise. But they lack a certain quality that the WLC has.

>>53062286
>why the hat?
He's rich. Thud everyone needs to know how rich he is through the fanciness of his hat.

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>>53062480
>ftw its Valkia and she's cash.

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>>53062286
>fancy hats aren't warhammer

>>53062783
>the WLC is 'terrible'


You're supposed to say 'Globadiers' or 'Doomflayers'

But okay.

>>53061019
>>53061123
>>53061187
>>53061356
Allegiance: Sylvaneth

Leaders
Branchwych (100)
- Artefact: Ranu's Lamentiri
- Deepwood Spell: The Dwellers Below
Treelord Ancient (300)
- General
- Trait: Gift of Ghyran
- Artefact: Briarsheath
- Deepwood Spell: Regrowth

Battleline
5 x Tree-Revenants (100)
- Sylvaneth Battleline
20 x Dryads (240)
10 x Dryads (120)

Units
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Scythes
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Greatbows
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Greatbows

Battalions
Gnarlroot Wargrove (80)
Household (20)

Better?
Also, is it really true Kurnoth Hunters with bows have no real counter-unit?

>>53062978
>Kurnoth Hunters with bows have no real counter-unit?
No, of course not. They have zero mortal wound defense and a lot of very fast flying stuff can get on them and tear them up before they do much.

Remember that no one gives a shit about the offensive ability of anything in your list except those hunters. They are going to draw hammerstrike retributors and vampire dragon lords, and stormfiends etc.

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>>53062890
But it's a fancy hat evocative of a far more modern era than the historical well Warhammer typically draws its inspiration from.

Plus he just looks steampunk-y as all hell, and not the rare good steampunk either.

Is the chaos warshrine good with pure rotbringers? Are rotbringers good at lower point games? They seem too slow and low model count.

>>53062480
saurus guard

>>53063498
Hehehe you have got to be shitposting

>>53063375
Bloab Rotspawned (260)
Harbinger of Decay (140)
- General
Battleline
10 x Putrid Blightkings (360)
- Mortal Nurgle Battleline
40 x Chaos Marauders (240)
- Axes & Shields
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle
Total: 1000/1000

Like everything Nurgle its slow, no rend, and practically unkillable.

>>53063531
He's not because Serafags are the Tau players of AoS

Sylvaneth are of course the Eldar players before anyone asks

>>53063498
>>53063531
Hes not wrong, theyre pretty weak.

100 points for 5 1w models with no mortal wounds save is terrible. Thats why the eternal starhost is a trap formation.

And as a bonus they keep getting worse as more high rend or mortal wound units are released. KO have -2 rend weapons on the battleline infantry.

>>53063531
No anon yours is the true shitpost

>>53062154
>he is still accusing random people of being the elf poster who aren't the elf poster.

t.elf poster

>>53063573
Thanks, I'll check this out

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>>53062480
drake spawn knights

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>>53063498
When will we get a fucking updated Battletome for old armies like Seraphon and Ironjawz? New shit like these KO are blowing our shit out of the water!

>>53063858
>old armies
>Ironjawz
pardon?

>>53063887
Their rules came out before the points update. They are shit because of it compared to newer armies

>>53063932
fair enough

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>>53062480
also these please fix.

they are unfieldable at 200 points.

>>53063887
Their battletome is outdated as fuck.

>>53063628
You can't have a high save and do a lot of damage and have cheap wound/point counts. Fulminators are 5 wounds for 120 and do less damage than these guys even without the d3 from starhost, do they suck?

Are the empire horse knights all discontinued or something?

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Painted up a test model for my KO fleet.

I wanted to go for a polished sheen on the red armour so I tried using the reikland fleshshade gloss but I'm not entirely sure about the result. Would shading with carroburg crimson work better along with stronger highlights?

>>53064092
>k-kill me

>>53062480
Troglodon
It looks really cool but everyone says it's garbage

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>>53062148
>It will be elves, and they'll be in grand alliance death.

spooky spooky death aesthetic written all over these models

>>53064092
THIN
YOUR
PAINT

>>53064092
>Using metallic color on metal i stead of NMM
>Obviously plainted without an airbrush

bro...

>>53064092
_____ your ______.

>>53064379
Bore your barrels?

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>>53064092
if you're going to take a close up like that at least make the model look decent first.

>>53064092
The scheme is pretty nice, it's a bit messy though.
There's a mold line on his left arm.
I'm not a big fan of the gold, I can't quite place why but something bothers me about it.
it's ok/10

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>>53064429
There are people that don't?
And surely they wouldn't be employed by GW and have pictures of their armies with barrels not bored displayed in official GW media?

>>53064008
5 wounds on a single model. You know thats still better than 5 single models? Because you dont lose damage output when you lose them. Theyre also cavalry, 2+ vs shooting, 3+ standard, which guard dont have, have mortal wound output, a shooting attack, the list goes on. And thats before taking into account their bonus damage rolls.

Your comparison sucks.

High save single wound infantry just arent good in a game where mortal wounds are abundant. And theyre even worse when theyre as expensive as guard.

Like the rest of the seraphon list, they were better when aos first came out and got worse as the game evolved.

>>53064008

>do more than fulminators

Look carefully at fulminators shooting attack, they're beastclaw tier absurd

>>53062480

Mother fucking pistoliers to my absolute sadness

>>53062209
My, aren't you a cunt

>>53062978
>>53063098
Agreed. Bow Kurnoths are studs but artillery can knock them down, such as Warp Lightning Cannons, Skull Cannons, Organ Guns, etc. Bow Kurnoths are the closest to artillery Sylvaneth will get.

For example, I play against Skaven regularly, some of the best artillery in the game imo. If I had that list, I would get murdered. I would yank your 10-model Dryad for another 5-model Tree Revenant since those 10 Dryads aren't going to last long against anything. Revenants can take down the artillery fairly quickly and reliably before your Bow Kurnoths get taken down.

>>53064601
I'm supposed to make an exact comparison with the fictional unit that does exactly the same thing as saurus in the same way but better to avoid your nitpicking then. Fine well just only take into account raw stats and assign unidimensional roles. Everything in the game is trash except Storm Vermin, Skyfires, Stonehorns, and Plaguebearers. Everything in Seraphon is trash because something else does it better.

Allegiance: Order
Alarielle the Everqueen (620)
- Deepwood Spell: Regrowth
Spirit of Durthu (400)
- Artefact: Glamourweave
Branchwych (100)
- Artefact: Ranu's Lamentiri
- Deepwood Spell: Throne of Vines
20 x Dryads (240)
5 x Tree-Revenants (100)
5 x Tree-Revenants (100)
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Greatbows
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Greatbows

Total: 1920/2000

Taking Alarielle and a 400 point treeman is probably a mistake and I know I should just drop them for more Hunters but here's my initial attempt at making an army

>>53064873
Either go Durthu, Alarielle and Free Spirits battalion or full monster mash with Durthu, Alarielle, Drycha, and 2 Kurnoths.

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Did you ever try to get your partner into AoS? How you ended up? When I tried to take my GF to LGS on demo game it was the first time she used a safe word. At the end of the day she find a faction she liked so we are playing together but fuck me if most people are not born with some anti-warhammer gene

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>>53065025
>the first time she used a safe word

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>>53065025
>When I tried to take my GF to LGS on demo game it was the first time she used a safe word
How exactly did this come about

>>53064379
paint your models?

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hey guys, been away for a long while. How is AoS doing?
Are WFBfags still being spergs?

>>53065323
>WFBfags
They are dead until the next AoS update hits

>>53065134
Nah, nothing interesting. These Anon >>53065114 probably get it right. We are very into BDSM so the safeword is a vital and necessary "feature" for us. She is pretty fucked up like me no tipping - we are just lustful so she never used a safeword, even when doing really perverted stuff. Somehow she was reacting very aversively to the any mention of warhammer. You know - highschool, bitchy nerds with greasy hair and shit. She loves tabletop games, play MtG etc but somehow every warhammer player she met in her life was just a huge dick. It took me a while to talk her into play few games with me and other people and sinking into lore inb4 le AoS lore meme but at least I started to understand what is the problem with females and WH.

>>53065330
>They are dead
serves them right

Hello, coming from 40k and i want to pick an army, i usually play good tyranids or the genestealer cult but i hear hordes don't work well in AoS is in the setting any army that is in good state for play and that is like those two?

>>53065417
if you like appearing out of nowhere and being a bit tricky then Sylvaneth might appeal to you

>>53065417
The closest thing to tyranid is Moonclan grots.
tou can spam hundreds of cheap grots or just use 2 behemot squigs and a dreadmaw/magma dragon.

>>53065323
>hey guys, been away for a long while
Glad you came back
>How is AoS doing
Apparently it turns out that AoS was just a huge beta-testing for new 40k edition - GW copy-pasted like 50% of AoS rules into 40k 8th edition (magic, battleshock, 3 ways to play game and few other)
>Are WFBfags still being spergs
They are mainly shitposting in /40kg/. When 8th will be released and turns out to be a good game they will come here again. Their general is pretty dead

>>53065471
>Apparently it turns out that AoS was just a huge beta-testing for new 40k edition
Uh, I didn't mean that it is something bad just to be clear. AoS turned out to be great game and I'm looking forward to see next updates and stuff. With new 40k rules it will be easier to make a khorne daemons army I was thinking about for a while

>Chakax/Eternity Warden uses a two handed weapon, but the arms actually don't fit with the model
His arm doesn't connect to his hand, they're too far apart.

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The Klad Barag is coming together

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>>53065546
I'm still sad we didn't get a big ass dwarf mecha

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>>53065546

>>53064763
Well when youre finished rambling we can have an actual discussion about the meta basics because I dont think you understand how it works.

>>53065576
Me too. That's why I am making this.

>>53065025
Most of my friends are female, the non gaming ones anyway. Ran an ultra-simplified version of Silver tower for them which was basically a glorified story where they rolled a couple dice. Just werent into it at all even though they asked me to find a boardgame to play. They were almost suprised by how many rules there were even though I cut out like 70% of the rules that werent move or attack.

Some people want to play games, and like the idea of playing games, but are just not interested in the actual playing of anything more complicated than cards against humanity.

>>53064092
Makes me think of McDonalds.

I just ordered Clan Pestilens rulebook for fluff and collectible reasons.
Did i do good??

>>53065683
You sure did

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Going to my first AoS tournament at my LGS in a couple of weeks. How does this look? The Loremaster will be throwing Hand of Glory on either the Luminark or Tyrion. The one thing I want to use is the Luminark, because it's my favourite model.

>>53065683
>I just ordered Clan Pestilens rulebook
Oh
>for fluff and collectible reasons
Well, If you feel good about this than yes. Shae it's one of the first battletomes so it's an "old" type

>>53065683
Nope

>>53065703
>>53065705
>>53065708
i see you guys imply i did bad, sadness

>>53064092
>Thats a four dollar model
Jesus anon, thats glossy as hell

>>53065725
Nah man, I'm serious - it's your money so everything what makes you feel good is a good purchase. Personally, I bought a Storm of Sigmar just for few Khorne and SCE models - I'm not even playing Khorne or SCE army but they look neat as fuck

>>53065725
I literally said you did good.

>>53060969
>tfw you are so tired of painting undead, other armies are looking attractive

Not gonna lie, I love the idea of starting up a new force, and KO are looking really good right now.

Also, I think I might try some Writefaggotry when I get home. Any suggestions?

>>53062480
Fiend of Slaanesh

>>53065704
Run the numbers for a charging Dragonlord with legendary fighter and a relic blade lance with hand of glory anon.

>>53065839
Lance: 4 attacks
3+ to hit: 2.6R (rr: 3.5R)
2+ to wound: 2.692R (rr: 3.4117+)
-1 Rend: 4+ save becomes 5+: 2.274496+
4 damage: 9.07986+


Claws: 6 Attacks
4+ to hit: 3 (rr: 4.5)
3+ to wound: 3 (rr: 4)
-1 Rend: 4+ save becomes 5+: 2.6R
2 damage: 5.3R

Jaws: 3 attacks
4+ to hit: 1.5 (rr: 2.25)
2+ to wound: 1.875 (rr: 2.1875)
-2 Rend: 4+ save becomes 6+: 1.822916R
3.5 damage: 6.3802083R

Total: 20.7934016R

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So I see there is no Death release today.

W-we will g-get one s-soon.

>>53065738
4.5 Ameribucks actually

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guise post Skaven art pls, bonus points for wallpapers and lewd

>>53066366
You're purposely trying to besmirch us shaven players. You don't need to, we're already reviled.

>>53066543
>us shaven players. You don't need to, we're already reviled.
Why don't you grow a beard then you pansy?

>>53066143
If the rumours are right we will see something 6th may

>>53063943
This is with pretty much all cavalry, especially on the lighter side such as cairn wraiths. I'm pretty sure all cavalry are either meant for playing the objective or assassinating artillery/gun lines/wizards.

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>GW has the best models in the industry

>>53065375
What exactly is the problem with females and WH?

>>53066653
That really annoys me about sigmar, if you want a big fluffy lance charge its Blood Knights or bust pretty much.

>>53066773
kek

>>53066773
>posting a mini that is probably older than you are

>>53064092
He literally said
>test model

I like the shiny red

>>53063600
>Play Seraphon in SoG
>Would play Tau if I played 40k
I just think those little drones Tau have are cute, and their robots are cool.

>>53066884
AoS of course.
Adding to this, what other core would Seraphon take? I heard that Knights aren't that great and skinks are really squishy. Is it that much better to take a bunch of Warriors?

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Allegiance: Kharadron Overlords

Skyport: Barak-Zon
- Additional Footnote: There's No Trading With Some People
Arkanaut Admiral (140)
- General
- Trait: Stickler for the Code:There's No Trading With Some People
- Artefact: Aethersped Hammer
Aether-Khemist (100)
Aetheric Navigator (100)
- Artefact: Aethersight Loupe
Endrinmaster (140)
10 x Arkanaut Company (120)
- 3x Aethermatic Volley Guns
10 x Arkanaut Company (120)
- 3x Light Skyhooks
3 x Endrinriggers (120)
- 1x Skyhooks
- 1x Drill Cannons
Arkanaut Frigate (280)
Arkanaut Ironclad (440)
Arkanaut Frigate (280)
Iron Sky Command (80)
Iron Sky Squadron (80)

Total: 2000/2000

I love these guys getting them painted tomorrow!!

I was playing around with list concepts, how well would this all boar force work?

Gorbad Ironclaw - 160
10 Boarboys - 200
10 Boarboys - 200
10 Boarboys - 200
10 Boarboys - 200

Also, what are the advantages of having bigger/smaller units; why should I take 20 men instead of 10 or vice versa?

>>53065375
I would never even take mygf near a a GW or ect, she calls them ''figurines'' which i find hilarious. But fuck me does she think warhammer players are the biggest pile of unattractive wettys on the planet. Me included probably.

>>53062480
Dragon Slayer/"Unforged"

Best dwarf model to ever exist, and it will never be topped. It is pretty much the pinnacle of miniature design.

But in-game it is terrible.

Unless you give him a relic blade and he is up against chaos. Then you can just buff him with your other characters and he will happily beyblade across the board, but that is REALLY specific set of factors.

>>53066951
I'd be scared to play that

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A quick question about death. Please keep in mind I'm new to the game and might very well have missed some obvious info, in that case forgive me.

Acording to the general's handbook, death armies has the following trait:

Deathless Minions: The servants
of the rulers of the dead are all but
immune to pain, shrugging off wounds
that would slay a living creature. This
unnatural resilience is bolstered if their
lord and master is nearby, making
them even more difficult to kill. Roll a
dice for each wound or mortal wound
inflicted on a DEATH unit from your
army that is within 10" of your general
or another HERO from your army. On a
roll of 6 or more, the wound is negated
and has no effect.

However this looks alot like the Wight King's banner effect: Infernal Standard: Infernal Standards
are saturated with death magic, which
can sustain the undead. A Wight King
with an Infernal Standard has the Totem
keyword. Roll a dice each time a Death
model from your army is slain within 9" of
an Infernal Standard. On a 6, the magic of
the Infernal Standard sustains that warrior
and the wound that slew him is ignored. In
your hero phase, a Wight King can plant
his standard; if he does so, you cannot
move him until your next hero phase, but
until then the Infernal Standard’s influence
is extended to18".

My question is, do these effect stack or not? Seems really strong if they do.

>>53067269
Its stacks roll for deathless then roll for the banner.

>>53067367
Hot dayum.

With RotN thats stupidly good.

I don't get why people say Death is crap, this seems absurdly good with hordes and all the other stacking stuff.

>>53062286
Don't forget the mustache gun

>>53062286
If you pay attention to the hat, you will see that it has the runic icon of King on it. It is basically his "crown" to let everyone know he is the richest.

>>53067419
Nah, I think they could get away with the moustache gun without the hat. The hat is just too much.

>>53067387
There's a bunch of small problems with death that don't seem like a big deal until they start adding up.

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I thin my paints I swear.

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Newly painted up celestant on dracoth. Turned out great.

>>53067525
Always like your stuff man

>>53066777
In my opinion warhammer is everything that females don't like in tabletop games. You have to spend your time to make up a decent list, burn a lot of money (if you have no idea how to make it budget), the hobby itself seems to be messy and slow - most games look like dancing around the table. Pretty all my female friends prefer to play pre-constructed games or lcg with small card-base. If anyone of them (like my gf) is playing mtg or pokemon tcg It's because someone build the first deck for them and they are trying to improve it as long as they can. Most of my female friends are a fuckin beasts if we talk about boxed games like neuroshima hex, catan, munchkin and stuff like that but ask them to look for the cards on gatherer and build up their on deck and they will be bored as fuck. IMO most males are into hobby and collecting when most females are into playing pre-cons games

>>53067387
Deaths problems arent survivability

>>53064092
I think the gloss is a bit much. It does't really work on that sort of armour in my opinion. I think using pretty much any other shade will look better, as long as it isn't glossy.

Try to take a bit more care with the overalls as well, the shading and highlighting just seems random. Although I guess that is rich coming from me, looking at the Arkanaut I posted yesterday.

You have paint in the wrong place quite often as well, such as the gold on the helmet just above the eyes, and brown coming from his gloves onto his arm.
It would look better if you picked out the details, such as various belt buckles, the rivets etc.

Although I suppose those last two could simply be because you was testing the colours.

>>53067562
>wannabe oldblood on carnisaur
>not a dino riding a dino
kill all stormfags.
Seraphon > wannabes

>>53067610
>prefab games
Disgusting

>>53067525
make a banner dude with those clipart lizards as the army crest

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>>53066561
Hopefully my dreams come true! they wont.

Are the rolls for the number of mortal wounds dealt by Bolt of Tzeentch and other spells considered damage rolls that you can use destiny dice for?

>>53066951
You need a third battleline for 2000 points.

>>53069390
Yes

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>>53066951
Has KO opened the door to make things like pic related possible/likely in future AOS releases?

>>53070596
Also for the Iron Sky Command battalion.

If he wants to keep both battalions, he will have to swap the admiral for more arkanauts.

>>53070721
>le epid AoS is 40k meme
Well meme'd my friend. You are being totally original.

Skyvens? Shadow elfs? New death shit? Whats your bet for a next release /AoS/?

>>53071143
the safe bet is more Storm Cast Eternals. Maybe SC riding lions or some shit like that and SC lightning bolt shooting war machines.

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>>53062286

>>53066951
>endriniggers

>>53071379
>Really like the endrinrigger's rules and want to use them for healing shenanigans/aethersaw dmg
>Realize how careful I will need to say their name
Why the fuck did GW settle on Endrinriggers and not Endrineers? Do they want people to fuck up? If so 10/10.

>>53071460
>moonman klan vs endriniggers
Its like they're trying to tell us something.

>>53071560
and people say GW had lost their humor

>>53071560
>Brits being racist
What? No way!

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>>53071205
>SC lightning bolt shooting war machines

the liberterprosecutojudgementagor 100 points 5 wounds 3+ save war machine 3 attacks hit on 2+ range 48" upon successful hit every enemy unit within D6 inches of target unit suffers D6 mortal wounds.

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>>53071009

>>53071207
I wish this dudes statline was good enough to be auto include, he's worse than 240 points of riggers.

>>53072037
Him being fucking 300pts is whats bumping him to the bottom of the buy list.

What's the most popular point value in tournaments now?

1000? 2000? 2500?

Talking about General's rules and big tourneys and GTs like South Coast or Adepticon.

>>53071980
Maybe the dwarves were the inventors of the terminator armor? I mean there was always a connection between 40k and WHFB.

Skaven calling eldar with a stone telephone, Araloth finding Klador Draigo in nurgles garden.

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>>53071143
I hoping the Freeguild will get an update to make them more High Fantasy.

>>53072468
Or MAYBE necessity breeds invention. Kinda like how everyone came up with the idea that putting a pointy rock at the end of a stick was a good idea back in the pre-civilization days.

>>53071205

>lightning bolt shooting warmachines

Those exist and are called longstrike raptors

>>53073108
>longstrike raptors
>tfw you ask google for an image of a raptor riding on a missile, but all you find are raptors riding sharks

>>53070721
god i hope not

huh so Archaon can take lore of fate and treachous bond himself onto infinite wounds worth of chaos marauder trash. This certainly sounds like it was intended.

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Stormfiends are kind of fun to paint. But they take ages.

>>53073600
He can also use your two destiny dice that were rolled as 6's and instantly wreck anything on the table.

>>53073650
Yeah that's just insane. I imagine rolling two sixes in your dice pool and just having your opponent running his stonehorn away from him. Like why is Gordrakk also 700 points?

>>53073767
Gordrakk has an excellent command ability at least. Archaon's is only good in like 3k+ since you need several characters with good command abilities to make his work.

>>53067456
It's actually a symbol of office, the hat has a specific name and only can be worn by the lord magnate.

>>53071980
Oh look, another thing made better by AoS

>>53063324
He has a top hat because his title is magnate.

>>53066653
chaos knights are arguably pretty good for 200pts

>>53066773
>Old mini that's on par with mantics modern minis.

What citadel color would you guys recommend to get a really dark, anthrazite-y grey?

>>53076320
Skavenblight Dinge.

Was looking Ebay for SCE Prosecutors with Storm javelins and there really aren't any but the hammer version is all over the place. Why is the Javelin version so rare? Is it that good or that bad?

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>wake up
>no death release

>>53076421
The reason is that hammer prosecutors come in the starter box, but the javelin ones have to be bought in their own separate box.

I'm working on the fluff to a slaves to darkness army but I'm struggling on incorporating the colours I want to the models.
My warband is an example of why chaos is so attractive; human warriors who are stronger and faster than the possible and achieve great feats. To the outside they appear like an army who have tamed monstrous beasts (see gore beasts and war herds) and have an ever growing empire. On the inside they're men obsessed with conquest who lose as much as they gain in their urge to own more new land.

The list is all mortal, with a few beasts around. I imagine peasants being awestruck as "tamed" Bullgors charge into an attacking orruk wave and save the day, backed up by legions of armed warriors. Displays of skill and suddenly these villages with no other aid are hooked.

My worry is how to get a white colour incorporated into the army. I looked at white army, but it can look bad so easily, especially on warriors of chaos. White cloaks work but with what armour? I've seen white on black before but that's more ominous than I'm hoping for.

Essentially, how can I get a good white scheme on StD

>>53076465
>White cloaks work but with what armour?
Metallic with golden trims.

>>53076465
Red or purple.

>>53076497
I thought about stuff like that, thought you weren't meant to mix metallic though, I.e. have either gold or silver? After painting some fyreslayers I sort of see why people say that too yet some models look great with it
>>53076515
Red is a good complimentary colour but won't full red be too garish, especially for rank and file? Considering I want their excess to be slaanesh linked and use the old sigvald model as a dashing leader maybe I should look into purple a bit though yeah

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What armies are common in your local meta?

>>53076646
Nurgle, Sylvaneth and a bit of Bloodbound

>>53076646
I read it in Bane's voice.

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>>53076646
Seraphon.
4 out of 12 players are Seraphon.

>mfw I'm Chaos Daemons

>>53076646
Skaven, SCE, FEC, and Ironjaws

>>53076646
we have two wanderer players and two Sylvaneth players. Other than that we have a stormcast player, and a slaves to darkness (leaning toward Nurgle) player. With me as a Tzeentch player who's waiting until the new dark elves show up.

Updated Fyreslayers, Seraphon, Everchosen, Skaven Pestilens, Flesh-Eater Courts and Ironjaws battletomes fucking when?

>>53076700
>playing Chaos
you did this to yourself

We are going to have a fun little tournament at lgs. How would you rate this list? I just hope that this isn't too op, at least I'm not spamming KH's. These large Sylvaneth models are just too sweet to not use!

Allegiance: Order
Alarielle the Everqueen(620)
-Deepwood Spell: Regrowth
Branchwych(100)
-Artefact: Ranu's Lamentiri
-Deepwood Spell: Verdant Blessing
Drycha Hamadreth(280)
-Deepwood Spell: Regrowth
Treelord Ancient(300)
-General
-Trait: Gnarled Warrior
-Artefact: The Oaken Armour
-Deepwood Spell: The Reaping
5 x Tree-Revenants(100)
5 x Tree-Revenants(100)
5 x Tree-Revenants(100)
Treelord(260)
Gnarlroot Wargrove(80)
Household(20)

Total:1960/2000

>>53076646
Iornjawz,stormcast, chaos
The ones youd expect really, theres loads of older armied ive never even seen used before. I hope GW keeps the releases coming, even if its just rules for the other factions and not models

This game needs way more elves

>>53077173
As someone who always wanted to start DE/HE in WFB, and never got round to it, I'd love to have some brand new aelfs.

>>53065648
>Some people want to play games, and like the idea of playing games, but are just not interested in the actual playing of anything more complicated than cards against humanity.

That is a huge sadness I have right now as well. I've been trying t dip some friend's toes into AoS or even Kill Teams in 40k, but all they want to do is do the same old shit with Catan, CAD, and some other games that get fairly old with repetition.

>>53077428
CAH*

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Leaked image of the new dark aelves!

>>53067525
Missed the bracelet on the left wrist, I see.

>>53071560
kek

>>53072128
>implying that at 300 points he isn't already better than 90% of units in the game
>complaining that if it isn't so under-points-costed as to to be broken it isn't worth buying

gota love those KO players

>>53077479
I'd be happy with this if they make sure stick to Pre Legion Illidan/Illidari

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>>53077173
>>53077373
agree
>>53077479
you think you're funny with your wow references but I am not amused.

>>53077936
Note he said bottom, that he would never buy him.

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>>53071560

Wait till they introduce the KKKrackerz klan vs Din Dooh Vermins

Is there any online Stormcast painter. Like the Bolter and Chainsword painter?

I have a colour scheme I want to test without wasting any paint.

The rumors about a big release tomorrow have any truth or just another shitposter like >>53077479?

Good people, some anon's in a your dudes thread have insinuated that AoS is not capable of a your dudes flavored army, would anyone care to prove them wrong?

>>53071460
Oh GW, you still got it

>>53079029

I would go so far as to say it's hard to do anything but a your dudes army in AOS since the setting is so gigantic

>>53079029
It's absurdly easy, the setting is so huge you can justify anything. There's a lot of problems in AoS' fluff but that isn't one of them

>>53079029
just to add to what others have said, the "grand alliance" system makes taking mixes of different armies absurdly easy allowing even more flexibility to create whatever army floats your boat.

dwarves, tree people, elves, and your favorite human wizard all in one army, no problem. Orcs with wolly mamoths and giant spiders in one army does it for you, go for it!

>>53065831
Why are they terrible?
I am new.

>>53079029
Its way fucking easier to have your dudes in AoS than it ever was in fantasy, there are countless NPC civilizations throughout the realms. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a salty as fuck grongard who only gets their information through memes and thinks the only thing that matters is stormcasts vs khorne

>>53079308

This

My army fluff is an Azyrheim treasure hunting Duke who owns his own free guild, unwittingly enlisted the aid of a vanguard chamber strike force also looking for the same artifact and bribed a dragon with 6 different kinds of gold in his quest to get fat loot.

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i wish warhammer was a skirmish game, i don't have cash and attention span to commit to a bigger thing.
Sadness, what should i do bros?

>>53079604

Beastclaw raiders

>>53079604
Anon, they just announced a Skirmish version of AoS in their community site.

>>53079616
they did? spoonfeed me pls

>>53076215
You don't even bring them in Rotbringers and that list is desperate for more speed,

>>53079648
https://wwwXfacebookXcom/GWWarhammerAgeofSigmar/photos/a.452227281640737.1073741828.452117934985005/626519007544896/?type=3
Replace the X with dots

It's on their facebook page.

>>53079728
holy shiet, i might be able to afford this hobby now.

>>53077936
No, I want to play KO for the ships, I don't have room to take him with the other shit I like. Good try though.

>>53078292
This as well

>>53077936
I don't think hes particularly strong first of all, but more than that he's the marquee unit and doesn't have a role in the list itself. No one is struggling to figure out why they should include a Lord of Change or a Treeman Ancient in their list.

>>53077079
You don't like Alarielle's command ability? It looks insane to me. Taking Gnarlroot and having 0 kurnoths seems kinda like a waste, you have nothing to use the resurrect on.

Thrall coven warscroll, worth it or not for the darklings order list?

>>53079837

The celestant prime problem

He's a bit too expensive to just be a beat stick and he really doesn't fulfill a role

>>53079746

While there are many, much better and affordable, skirmish games out there, I still like it a lot that they're going to do an equivalent of Shadow War for AoS.

I hope they'll produce more boxes than for Shadow War.... those have been sold out waaaay to fast.

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>>53079959
the rest are trash. actually the exiled warhost isn't "amazing" either but it is better than anything released after the compendium. Exiled blood cult is a mortal wound shitting machine.

>>53079980
I don't like prime but at least he does something unique, and he changes the way your opponent will play which is always valuable.

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>>53079959
the fact that executioners are "darkling coven" and not "Daughters of khaine" is proof positive whoever broke the elves into mini factions didn't give a shit what they were doing and didn't understand a god damn thing about the armies they were fucking up.

Allegiance: Tzeentch
Archaon (700)
- Lore of Fate: Treacherous Bond
- Lore of Change: Arcane Transformation
Lord Of Change (300)
- General
- Trait: Magical Supremacy
- Artefact: Wellspring of Arcane Might
- Lore of Change: Bolt of Tzeentch
Tzaangor Shaman (120)
- Lore of Fate: Glimpse the Future
- Lore of Change: Fold Reality
Chaos Sorcerer Lord (140)
- Runestaff
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
- Lore of Fate: Glimpse the Future
10 x Chaos Marauders (60)
10 x Chaos Marauders (60)
10 x Chaos Marauders (60)
10 x Brimstone Horrors Of Tzeentch (40)
10 x Brimstone Horrors Of Tzeentch (40)
9 x Tzaangor Skyfires (480)

Total: 2000/2000

Can the Lord of Change fit here or is the line too thin and it needs 20 Chaos Warriors or Tzaangors instead?

>>53080351
Archaeon is amaze-balls for sure but to get the most mileage out of him you really have to take max advantage of his command ability to let everyone else use their command ability and that is a pain in the ass to actually pull off.

>>53076646
Mixed Destruction (thundertusks + grots)
Mixed Chaos (stormfiends + sayl + plaguebearers)
Tzeentch
Tomb Kings (settra + 6-12 necro knights)
Seraphon
Stormcast Hammerstrike
Stormcast Aetherstrike
Dispossessed
Free People
Sylvaneth
Khorne Bloodbound
Mixed Death

A few people have started Kharadrons

My local scene is very competitive

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>tfw moved to new country and afraid to go to and play at my new lgs and meet everyone

Do other races benafit from ur gold or would it be purely a practice I'm pudding off the dorfs?

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So I posted a model yesterday and received a lot of horrified and memey comments about thinning my paints, mouldlines and so on. I did say it was a test model but only a few of you actually bothered to read that.

To the three of you that gave me helpful criticism, thank you. This is my second go - and again, it's a test model. Paints are thick from lots of layers, the highlights are too broad and I haven't cleaned the mouldlines properly. Looking for feedback on the colour scheme specifically - I tried Nuln Oil this time but I think it makes the armour too dark, going to try Carroburg Crimson next time.

>>53081779
looks nice desu, it's not blowing off my balls but it is tabletop friendly quality

>>53080995
>afraid of going outside
way to fit the stereotype you neckbeard

>>53081805
You are way to nice
>>53081779
Looks like shit. Thin Your Fucking Paints

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>>53081779
pretty cool anon. Painting is fun.

Don't pay the haters any attention they probably don't paint anyways

>>53081898
>I can't rate a movie because I don't make movies
>I can't rate food because I don't cook it
>I can't commentate a sport because I don't play it

>>53081805
Thank you anon, it's my first army project in a long while so hopefully I'll improve during the process. I have 30 of the Arkanauts alone to paint so after 5 or so I expect there'll be an increase in quality.

>>53081898
Thank you anon. I'm going to, if they can't be bothered to read the part where I explain it's a test model and I even list the areas that I know need improvement then I can't be bothered to read their posts.

>>53081779
Are you dead set on those colors because I really hate the fire engine red.

I would highly suggest looking at the storecast paint guide pdf. They show a lot of ways of painting metals and you can find a color that works.

>>53081870
sarcasm is the lowest form of wit

Any advice on the stormcast unit sizes and formations? Given how they work, is there any benefit of MSU or big units? I was thinking just a bunch of little liberator units to stall till my Retributors or Star Drake can come in and munch them.

>>53081779
I would probably attempt to use either a less saturated red or beige. I think both of them at this intensity makes him look a bit busy.

Other than that keep at it!

>>53081779
>painting little red panties on your dwarfs
What did he mean by this

Fuckin CAVALRY YEEEEEH

Lord-Aquillor
Lord-Celestant on Dracoth - Mirrorshield, Shielded By Faith

Liberators
Liberators
Judicators

Vanguard-Palladors
Vanguard-Palladors
Fulminators
Fulminators
Concussors

1980/2000

R8 me

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>>53066143
>>53066561
>>53068258

What's with the "death is worthless" virus going around?

I just got into the game and got out my old Vampire army and, as far as I can tell, they seem strong as hell. big blobs with shittons of buffs, Deathless minion stacking with banner and so on.

I haven't even added any of my tomb kings yet and I seem spoiled for choice. Only thing that seem off is that Vargheist don't have any regeneration ability like the hunger or something, and that there are no smaller vampire option then "lord" when I wanna build a coven, and that's it.

>>53082054
They're just an inversion of the Barak-Thryng colour scheme. I do like the red though, so that's probably staying.

>>53082086
I see what you mean. I might use a more desaturated beige like Rakarth Flesh for the undersuit. It's the metallics being too busy I'm concerned about - all gold or all silver looks too dull, but it looks a bit gaudy when they're mixed. I'll think on it a bit before trying my next one.

MY FUCKING GOD

GIVE US NEW DEATH BATTLETOME

HELL, GIVE US A FUCKING FEC UPGRADED BATTLETOME

FUCK YOU, GW

>>53081779
Have you considered an off white color or something like ulthuan grey? I'm not feeling the cream color that you have there. I'd put some lead Belcher on the toes of the boots to bring attention there as the black and brown looks really washed out (highlight black with eshin grey); it also achieves a steel-toed boot look which you'd expect from being a skydorf on an airship.

I'd also put some weathering on the metal bits but I like the worn, im-out-in-the-elements look.

>>53082182
The gold silver should be fine if you just keep it as detailing, using the same bright silver on the edge for both helps to tie them together, whilst still keeping them separate.

>>53066773
Looks still better then skydorfs.

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Soulblight when?

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Plastic squigs when?

>>53082565
That is amazing. What is it from?

>>53082075
Big units of Libs can all get one lantern buff. If a Celestant is around with Staunch defender they are +1 hit and a 2+ reroll 1 save when they haven't charged. One big unit in a Vanguard Wing allows them to actually move around and keep up with Hammerstrike Paladins. With Bless weapons on a 15-20 blob and +1 hit they can actually do work.

>>53082112
Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
Lord-Celestant On Dracoth (220)
- Tempestos Hammer & Thundershield
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammers
5 x Judicators (160)
- Skybolt Bows
4 x Desolators (480)
2 x Desolators (240)
2 x Concussors (280)
2 x Concussors (280)
Thunderwave Echelon (140)

Total: 2000/2000

Proper fuck you, Dracoths list coming through.

>>53081779
I see no point in spending too much time on rank and file models when it comes to painting. They will be fielded by tens or twenties, and no one will ever look closer at them. They have to look good in group and that's it, and this is a perfectly adequate paintjob for that.

>>53082165
Their mortal wound and -2 rend options are very limited. The Skeleton blob with 240 attacks is scary until they run up against a Tree Man ancient with stomp and 2+ reroll and literally 1 attack goes through.

No formations outside of FeC means you never have first turn choice.

A lot of points need to be blown on support heroes to make their units good. For instance Flayers to become good need a Nercomancer(120) Ghoul King(100) Varghulf(160) and the command ability from a VLoZD(440), and they are one of your only ways to project mortal wound generation somewhere where you need them.

They've got no range units and shit offensive magic. So something like killing a Bloodsecretor that is childs play for Stormcast or Tzeentch is really hard and annoying for Death.

VLoZD is the only option for offensive hammer behemoths since the Necrosphinx cost $300.

Most people decide to not bother actually making a Death army work and put 2-3 guys on the table and just summon Mournguls and Morghast Harbingers around instead since they actually function independently.

>>53082898
The Strain, its nothing like that however.

Do reinforcement points return to your pool if the reinforcing unit is destroyed?

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Thoughts on fluff for my scheme? Pic related. It was either gonna be that they paint their armor green to resemble the wyldwoods they plunder (they are inspired by how easily fire consumes trees, and so fight with the strength of a raging fire) or simply because they want to remind the other orruks that even with gray skin they are still the orkiest.

>>53083503
nope

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>HE PAINTS HIS STORMCAST GOLD
What are you? Some kind of faggot?

>HE DOESNT PLAY HIS STORMCAST AS BRETONNIAN GRAILCAST
The best Stormcast are Bretonnians

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>>53083639
>GW could have made Grailcast and went with Sigmarines.

Hows this look for a first list?

Skink Starpriest 100
Oldblood on a Carnosaur 320
Bastiladon 300
Saurus Warriors 100
Saurus Knights 120
940/1000

I feel like building my Carnosaur as Oldblood was a mistake, didn't realise how expensive it was in points at the time.
I also own Terrain Riders and I think I can build a Scar-Veteran on foot

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>>53075393
So I have bought a Spire of Dawn box with my friend - he took Aelves, I'm gonna stick with rats. Played few games and actually we like it more than expected.
We both want to play 1k games - our lgs community seems to be not very competitive so anything that is no auto-lose army will be ok. What should we do now? Buy and split a second box? If yes, what then? Buy a skaven start collecting for lightning cannon and bell? What about Aelves? Also shitty cosplay for attention

So how does line of sight work? Specifically, would there be a block if units were in the way? I don't think that the rules specify so it looks like you can just shoot whatever you want.

>>53083770
I'm not sure if oldblood carno is worth it, but I haven't used it so I'm not sure. From what I've read it seems like people think that carnos are expensive for what you get in general, but I'm not sure if that applies to scar-vets too. I've been wondering if I should buy a start collecting box so tell us how it goes I guess!

>>53083523
I like the second option, but incorporating the wyldwood stuff could be fun too. Maybe they think it camouflages them in the trees

>>53083874
>What about Aelves
Most EZ mode thing to do for elves is pick up 2 boxes Phoenix Guard, 1 phoenix, and 1 loremaster. Run the spire of dawn stuff with that for a fun and not horrible army.

>>53083639

I'd love to make some grail cast but GW don't sell Brets anymore and stuff like perry and fireforge is going to be laughably out of scale.

I wonder if the chinaman sells Bretonnians?

>>53084237
>but anon that's like $200+ for like three units.

yes anon I know. Aelves isn't for plebes.

>>53081779
>>53081779
The candy apple red looks better less glossy. Still dont like the helmet scheme that much but its better than what you had.

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Death when?

>>53084431
*pulls out gun*
*shoots you*
right there, buddy
*shoots myself*

>>53084491
*it was a hologram*

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>>53083874
If you wanna go skrye, get stormfeinds and a warp lightning cannon and you are good to go.

If you wanna go verminus, get some storm vermin and a Vermin Lord Warbringer and you are good to go.

If you wanna go pestilens get start collecting pestilens

>>53083639

THIS HAS MY CONSENT

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>>53083639
even Duncan plays brets, its his favorite army.
Here are his new free peoples/empire spearmen
>Acolyte bodies
>Bloodreaver heads
>stormcast weapons and shields

>>53084062
Played my first game of signature using that list and I got ravaged by Flesh Eater courts
Terrorgeist annihilated my Knights turn one
Courtier added 2 horrors to his unit of 3, who then charged and one turn killed my Carnosaur
Star-priest and Bastiladon held their own pretty well and warriors were just meat sitting on the objective so couldn't really go wrong

Terrorgeist are not for cuddling and summoning free models is not easily dealt with are the lessons I learnt. Oh and the Carnosaur is far squishier than expected

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>>53084702
>implying consent is required to fight foar zee lady

>>53084741
hmm, now I want a buff ass spartan faction with hoplites and chariots.

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Love

>>53083639
>>53084702
>>53084785

QUICK! Sound your knight's vow or be shunned by the lady evermore.

>>53084202
I had the idea that they liked to camouflage themselves, not to be cowards and sneaks, but so they could get to places within the wyldwoods and then reveal themselves in order to trigger a huge battle

I want Neferata but I dont like her headress. Anyone know a good female head that would suit her?

>>53085040
use a skele head.
Bonez baby.

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>>53084989
Lady, I am your servant and in this time of trial I once again offer you my blade and service. When the clarion call is sounded, I will ride out and fight in the name of liege and Lady. Whilst I draw breath the lands bequeathed unto me shall remain untainted by evil. Honour is all, chivalry is all. Such is my vow.

GH2 WHEN?

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>>53060969
Soon

>>53085714
>Sigmuh reforges him as a stormcast like he did Vlad, Karl and other old world heros
>No memories but come back eventually
>WTF? I'm settra goddammit
>beats sigmars ass and takes over
>Age of Settra

>>53085714
Squatted

>>53085748
>Sigmuh reforges him as a stormcast like he did Vlad
wait what

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I know that the Seraphon Eternal Starhost is a trap, but if I'm going to be taking Saurus Guard anyway because I don't have any warriors right now is it really not worth it? The only thing I have that I can take instead are 10 skinks, and I feel like a free mystic shield and 1d3 damage would be better in the long run, no?

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In Hinterlands, do heroes generate skills for the five levels they start with?

>>53086068
There is some lore where one of the stormcast is from the world that was, and "is searching for his beloved"
They don't directly say it, but they implied its Vlad

>>53086389
wew, poor Vladdy daddy

>>53086126
>Triceratops helm
I don't care what their stats are. You cant fucking lose with that style.

With how GW structured AoS, they can create entire armies out of thin air without upsetting any kind of political or geographical stuff right? Like how they made the Karadron Overlords? I think at some point the successors to the Knights if Bretonnia will appear.

>>53086446
Their skull helmets are why I take Guard instead of Warriors honestly.

>>53086126
What armies are you facing and how much mortal wounds can they generate? If you are going against armies with lots of mortal wounds then they are crap. They are just too expensive at 5 wounds for 100pts + the battalion and warden cost. If you are facing something with only a few mortal wound then you can use something like a ripperdactyl to remove the mortal wound source then guards are rock solid.

Is Archaon a good pick for the DOT faction destiny dice?

>>53086488
>Seraphon
>Dinos Riding Dinos
Cool

>Seraphon Saurus Guard
>Dinos WEARING Dinos
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>53084573
>pestilens
Useless. Gw had potential with that release and they wasted it on a repackaging of a 2 unit army

>>53086724
The people I'm fighting most is Death, who's army I think will probably be a bunch of skeletons, some spirit hosts and maybe an Arkhan. Also a Chaos with a lot of Blightkings. I probably won't use it against the Blightkings.

>>53086472

That's been a back burner simmering rumor that a bretonnia spiritual successor is slated for 2018

>>53083055
>>53082075

Also keep in mind that with 20 liberators you have 4 grandhammers plus the extra prime attack as your front line which can do good work against other battleline.

In more realistic scenarios where not everyone in your blob can attack, this can really maximize your damage for your footprint. Plus they still get the reroll of 1 for saves if everyone else has shields.

>>53087235
That'd be neat. I never played fantasy but I really like the Bretonnian lore and flavor. One of my favorite campaigns from TW: Warhammer for narrative and thematic reasons.

>>53086850
No he is awful.

>>53076646
Local gw has:
>Stormcast (Manager himself)
>Stormcast
>Stormcast
>Goblins
>Orruks
>Nurgle Rotbringers
>Nurgle Rotbringers
>Seraphon (Who is actually the guy who posts his lizards in this thread)
>Death
Most people just base their army off having units that can take a lot of hits, anybody who plays lighter battle line gets destroyed.

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>>53088098
I never knew there were so many stormcast players there, I've only played against the Nurgle and Death.

>>53088098
>Stormcast
>Red Space Marines
>Stormcast
>Blue Space Marines
>Stormcast
>Space Marines
>Spikey Space Marines
>Stormcast
>Space Marines
>Space Marines
and me with my rattlemebonez AoS army and IG 40k army

>>53086896
Id combine them with blight kings
Basically you use plague monks as Bloodreavers, and Blight kings as heavy hitters.
Throw in a plague claw for good measure.

New thread
>>53088395
>>53088395
>>53088395

>>53081779
If you're dead set on that particular red, try mixing a small amount of balthazar gold of leadbelcher into it to give it a metallic undertone or paint it as a non-metallic metal. The flat red paint makes it look like their armor is plastic or ceramic instead of metal.

>>53084267

He does