Last time on Song of Swords: Jimmy provides Mass Combat out

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Ballad kickstarter in 2018 or 2019?

>>52950460
The latter seems more likely.

How hard is SoS to learn? Is there magic? I've been intrigued by these threads since mid last year, it sounds interesting.

>>52950904
dueling flow is pretty easy to pick up. About the hardest thing is chargen because of how stupid proficiencies are.

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>>52950904
Magic is still WIP so at the moment the system works best for low fantasy with out magic or adding the magic from call of the void that is a bit more developed.

>>52951327
Sounds great.
>>52950979
Doesnt sound great. Are there a lot of stabbed monster opponents?

>>52951430
No non-humanoid ones, unfortunately. Basically if you want a decent simulation of a HEMA duel, this is the system to play, but for anything else it's not going to be great

>>52951430
the proficiency are getting fix and monsters are coming in the future, by this time next year everything should be finished.

>Coffee OD'd and died

Anyone here play For Honor? I wanna hit someone in the head with a polearm without dice for once

Anybody got pics of Byzantine soldiers to dump? Preferably focused on the 13th century, both post-Palaiologian restoration and the fractured sub-realms like the Empire of Nicaea and Despotate of Epirus.

>>52951430
A few. There's a basic monster system in Call of the Void, but things are very much based on the regular combat system right now. They want that absolutely down pat before expanding.

>>52951676
He's alive.

>>52949949
>949949
Praise Kek indeed

>>52951916
I want shugoki to sit on my back and smash my head on the floor

>>52952251
Shit taste in executions. Also why do all the samurai use fucking wooden armour. I hope there's costumes released that's fucking no armour. That triggers me less than goddamn wood

>>52952307
Why is leather better than wood as armour, again?

>>52952048
No u

>>52952360
Because leather contains the soul of the slain animal and its spirit will ward attacks and grant you strength to glory its killer thereby glorying itself in heaven.

>>52952307
[Spoiler] desu I prefer the nut slap into gut thrust because shugoki is a fucking meme.

>threads constantly on fucking life support
Fecht when Jimmy

>>52953663
Idea for meme team supreme. Roll a character. 2d4+1 down the line on categories?

Rolled 2, 4, 4, 3, 2, 1, 4, 4, 3, 3, 1, 4, 4, 4 = 43 (14d4)

>>52953737
Uh, sure. You'll have to manually add the ones and separate the pairs mind

>>52953888
>>52953737
7
8
4
9
7
6
-
9

>>52953888
7,8,4,9,7,6,9

That made a significantly better character than I thought it would.

>>52953952
So what now

>>52954503
We try again with 1d4+2. Shitters only.

Rolled 3, 4, 2, 4, 3, 1, 4 = 21 (7d4)

>>52954632

>>52954632
>>52954641
5,6,4,6,5,3,-,6

>>52954659
>>52954632
2d3?

Rolled 2, 3, 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2 = 27 (14d3)

>>52955328
Okay boss

>>52955328
>>52955983
5,3,3,6,4,3,-,3

>>52950904
It's not hard, but there's a lot of stuff to read before you can consider yourself truly proficient.

>>52956722
It's a bit like a martial art in that respect.

>>52956000
It's a bit more realistic.

>>52956722
What is Ballad Spain like? Did they undergo a civil war like Spain did historically?

>>52957322
Ciervosia, often called "Cervantes" by the Albish-speaking world. Yes, it underwent a terrible revolution following the assassination of their King by anarchist radicals. It is now a popular conspiracy theory that the King was actually killed by ultranationalists because he was considering abdicating his position voluntarily.

Regardless the assassination plunged the country into civil war as revolutionary Left-wing elements seized control of large parts of the country, and the military and Nationalist elements fought to bring order back to the nation. The resulting civil war did not last long, by this time the Volgin Socialist Republic was itself collapsing and could not meaningfully fund the rebels, while Chiron was very much able to assist them. The Legionary Party eventually emerged on top, and declared Anarchism and Socialist thought to be a genetic disease. Great camps were established in which many hundreds of thousands of prisoners were experimented on (fatally most of the time) to find a "cure" for the mental illness. Eventually it was decided that there was no cure, and the remaining stock were simply executed.

Today, Ciervosia is one of Chiron's closest allies, and has embraced a eugenics program almost identical to theirs, albeit with different parameters. As one of the few countries with which Chiron has no contested territories or political disputes, they are perhaps the only country that suffered no meaningful losses in CWII.

>>52957773
I don't know dick about Spanish history, did this actually happen?

>>52957836
You see any communists in Spain?

>>52957836
More or less. The bit about the king dying is different though, in our history the Spanish king eventually came back and was reinstated. Here it sounds more like a fascist coup.

>>52957836
Ever see Pan's Labyrinth?

>>52957836
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Spain)

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>>52957920
>"Reforma agraria", the joking name given to organized peasant hunts on horseback, became popular among the sons of landowners, the name referring to the grave they would ultimately dump their quarry's body into as the piece of dirt the landless peasant had always wanted."

They're going to have to send someone into space if they want to bury my sides.

>>52957920
>>52958096
It's some cartoon villain shit dude, history is weirder than anything a writer could make up.

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>>52957920
>>52958124
>A Francoist psychiatrist, Antonio Vallejo-Nájera, carried out medical experiments on prisoners in the Francoist concentration camps in order to "establish the bio-psych roots of Marxism".[166][196][197][198]

Do we have the results of this research anywhere? This sounds like the plot of a Hunger Games ripoff.

>>52957773
I've been thinking about this for a while, Jimmy, but I have finally decided. I believe either Pain is too effective, or Grit is too weak.
We can sit here and handwave about how damage soaked by toughness are effective fleshwounds or about how "pain" and CP are abstractions, but when it comes down it
Pain gimps people way too quickly.

It's intended behavior, I know, for the wounds to add up and lead to a death spiral. That part isn't where I draw contention.
It's with how quickly and readily that spiral can occur.

I've been chewing on historical reports of knights continuing to fight (and kill) while disemboweled, and on how many knife and bullet wounds it sometimes takes to even stop an attacker (let alone kill them), but what really cemented it was all of that coming together while I was watching MMA, and hearing about how the contender had three fingers on his main hand completely broken during round 1, but elected to continue the fight and went on to defeat the then relatively unwounded champion.

Shock does exactly what I want it to although my players complain bitterly about Overshock. But pain just adds up so quickly. A single level 1 wound is all that even a toughened soldier will be able to withstand before losing dice, and with the level of CP every character I have seen played has? The next wound, even another level 1, will decide the fight. 10 v 15 CP can be hard fought, but you're still going to lose.

This part doesnt feel right. I shouldn't be so in-pain from getting my knuckles rapped twice that I begin to completely falter in my competency, and the historical accounts of the *heights* of grit simply don't see any play in SoS as it is right now- although the depths of it are exactly how I'd expect.
Maybe it's because there's nothing like Spiritual Attributes, maybe it's just Grit being relatively ineffective compared to the common wound, maybe I'm just an idiot.
But these are my thoughts.

>>52957773
The funniest thing about Laser Whales is that the game is supposed to be about adventure in space and exploration, but 90% of the lore is about how fucking horrible and dystopian the countries that you won't ever see are.

>>52958678
Sacrifice Arc Points to negate Pain? Maybe at a 2:1 rate?

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>>52957913
>that scene with the wine bottle

>>52958678
SoS is an outlier of the Riddle game family because it lets wounds stack without restriction. I recommend reading BoB, Bovine, and Riddle/Flower of Battle to see how they handle things differently. Wound stacking, Pain, and Bleed are the three things you're looking for. Try them out with your players. If you find a good alternative to what we have now, tell us about it.

>>52959459
Vidal is a Ballad-tier character.

>>52957773
>tfw I learn more history in SoS threads than I did in college

>>52959167
Because as an adventurous space pirate, those shitholes are both your backgrounds and your principle antagonists.

>>52957773
Wait a second, so it's modern Spain if Juan Carlos was killed and ushered in a redux of the civil war, or is this the first civil war in the timeline with a quite different origin?

>Ciervosia
Should probably just be "Ciervo", shouldn't it? Like how it's "León" and not "Leonía"?

>often called "Cervantes" by the Albish-speaking world
Nigga why?
Your naming sense for Spanish countries is so fucking weird.

>>52960187
Literally none of that is accurate to real-world history.
The only part that's close is the part after the war is done where they persecute anarchists and socialists, and make friends with the nazis, but even there, there's details to quibble over.

>>52961011
I don't speak Spanish--my strategy for years now has been to use my name idea, and then wait for someone (like you) to correct me, at which point I change the name to fit the suggestions. That's how we went from Nisperoa to Nisperada.

Always make use of your foreign fans, lads. They'll give you good linguistic advice.

>>52961857
Why not just straight up ask: "Hey, does this make sense guys?"

>>52962357
Would you trust a drunk Californian to ask properly?

>>52962475
Well, if it is his job, then yes.

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Alright lads, the last thread iconic poll yielded pretty close love between the squire and Dwarven explorer. Have we any other ideas? If not we ought to start thinking of fleshing out the two favorites in terms of gear, style, and skills.

And then fecht them

>>52963561
If this is for an Iconic Visionary slot, I'd recommend that we push a character who embodies our group well, but who also isn't so weird that they push people away. Premade characters are supposed to be easy to get into.

Personally, I'm surprised we didn't just default to Ohanedin Kenshiro. Possibly female. Aryan Elf musclegirl who does Wing Chun would be fucking based.

>>52964414
Dion please, I know you have a build for this you love to trot out, but vomiting blood from every orifice doesn't make for a good campaign character.

>>52963561
The squire is attempting to be the chivalric ideal, so he'd be in heavier armor with a sword and lance as a minimum. The question that becomes from that is: how has that ideal been corrupted in his time away from home? What lands has he traveled to and absorbed lessons and acquired gear from during his exodus?

I like Jimmy's idea of incorporating a clover into his heraldry in some way; maybe he patrons ranchers?

>>52965132
Dion advocated the dumb alligator man because he's from Florida. He's also so ideologically extreme that Jimmy only occasionally chastises him for being too lenient.

>>52965176
>because he's from Florida
That explains a lot

>>52965176
I always imagine Jimmy as the Cuban bad guy from Black Ops 2 for some reason, so it's natural he has genetic authority over Floridans.

>>52965251
Is Jimmy a spic? I thought he was white.

>>52965404
I think he's like 1/8th of a spic.

>>52951453
Sounds interesting, but I want to run a low magic fantasy rpg, not The Great Joust: The Tabletop Game. Although that too sounds great in its own way.
>>52951539
Nice. Is the combat rules hard to learn, is there more a basic fighter guy can do than "I hit it"?
>>52952009
Understandable. Guess I'll have a look myself on my next free weekend.
Sorry for the stupid questions, folks, but I'm in the army and dont really have time for hobbies outside of vacations.

>>52965461
He's an octaroon on his mom's side (1/8th black) but his dad's a spic. He's actually a total mutt which makes his fascist as fuck opinions really funny. On the Disco he once said "If they put every Californian in a gas chamber I'd run to the door and hold it closed to make sure none of us escaped."

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>>52965718
>If they put every Californian in a gas chamber I'd run to the door and hold it closed to make sure none of us escaped

Had a feeling Jimmy was our guy.

What the fuck are you talking about, Jimmy's a leopard seal. 100%.

>>52962687
>expecting Jimmy to do his job

>>52961857
I'm a Californian too, mate. If you're a Californian, you should speak Spanish fluently. Otherwise, you're just some spic who speaks Spanish poorly, and thus little more than a Mexican.

>>52965796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltNfIA5kzt0

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>Queen Dahaka the Black

>>52966648
I really hope we get official art of her.

>>52965947
Jimmy isn't nearly that cute.

Elephant seal, maybe.

>>52966679
Huge, brutal, ignorant slav women is the motif of SoS.

>>52966679
>>52966648
I always picture her as thinner, she's a Zell so she has dumb baboon strength regardless of her build.

>>52966920
>dumb baboon strength
That's Ohanedin, friend

>>52966648
Hot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs-pTGqQPc4

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>Ivan and Kane
Laser Whales is by FAR the better game, and history will remember it this way.

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>tfw this system sounds right up my allew but I got nobody to play this with

>>52969787
Play with yourself like you always do at night

>>52969787
>tfw you're posting in a thread full of people who also love the game
>tfw you're not in the roll20 right now

Alright gents I need some help cause I'm almost out of time. I'm a visionary noble backer for the KS and need to write up a character for the Lore bit that I get. Problem is I'm having a bit of difficulty writing something satisfactory and wrapping my head around the setting, and so I've come to you guys for help. As far as I've researched I know my idea is probably hard to pull off/write in a lore friendly way, which is part of the reason I'm asking for assistance. Continued in second post.

>>52969385
Who and who?

>>52969865
My basic idea is a possibly Karthak(i?) Zoph mage, who despite knowing it's wrong and incredibly dangerous, who is using necromancy and the undead to fight against some far greater threat (or using them to power a large portion of land... idk it was mentioned as an idea to me). But the basic idea is that he knows he's fighting a pyrrhic battle, and he knows that things are bad, and what he's doing is wrong, but that in his mind, the use of the undead abominations is the only way to stop this threat. Now the KS asks for all sorts of things like origin story, hopes/dreams, fears, habits, friends/allies, enemies, family, occupation, etc. and that's what I'm having trouble with. I also don't really know what threat in setting would constitute such dire measures. So I am here, asking humbly for help /tg/. I look forward to working with you gents.

>>52965716
>Nice. Is the combat rules hard to learn,
With one of us teaching you, no.
On your own, yes.
The system is set up so that it's easy enough to understand that you could pick it up while watching a fecht play out on /tg/. That's how most of us got into it, watching John Galt's fechts and eventually realizing what was going on. Now with someone teaching you in the roll20 you can learn how it works real quick.
However, Opaque are terrible at writing books, so if you try to learn how the game works only from reading the PDF, you'll be entirely confused. Why it's laid out so you have a maneuver list before learning how maneuvers work is beyond me.

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>>52969865
>>52969907
I'll save us both many hours of second-hand autism by reading your idea directly. Bones and Claymore handle the art side, but I can pressure them into pretty much anything.

>>52969991
Uhm. Thanks? What does this mean for my KS input? Because I still need to put something in for my backer tier and there's another step after this one.... Sorry to bother you?

>>52970391
Relax mate, he's just saying he'll read it and you don't have to worry.

>>52970391
What I mean is, do not worry about expressing yourself, we will absolutely take as much time is necessary to talk everything out. A fear many of you guys have expressed is that we might move too fast and not listen to you fully, and end up getting the wrong impression.

I promise, that will not be the case. Art takes fucking forever, that means we have tons of time to discuss details with our clientele.

If I wanted to run a high lethality one-shot for a group of PC's taking part in a castle siege would this be a good system to do so?
Would I be better off running something like riddle of steel or GURPS?
Does SoS support monstrous creatures?

>>52970771
Yes
No to Riddle of Steel (SoS is basically the same game) but GURPS is usually a good option too
Not yet, but the stretch goal for it was funded

>>52965716
>is there more a basic fighter guy can do than "I hit it"
How do you want to hit it? Is the key question, as you have to pick where and how hard you're hitting things, whether to stab or thrust, feint to different attacks, chop shields, knock blades out of the way, push cut, half-sword, murderstrike, hook people or their equipment etc.

>>52965718
Which side is from Curacao?

>>52971347
Mom's Dutch West Indian, dad's Puerto Rican of French-Haitian descent.
I know, I know, but not everyone can be born of pure Bavarian phenotype.

>>52971750
>Mom's Dutch West Indian, dad's Puerto Rican of French-Haitian descent.
...and you write Nazi propaganda. How did that happen?

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>>52971893
I consider myself very good at what I do. If I were a Nazi I'd have a Nazi army by now. It would be large, and very well dressed. Very, very well dressed.

For the record, I don't consider the Nazis to be any more or less evil than the other major powers of that era. Communism, Crony Capitalism and Fascism are all equally guilty. The specifics may vary but I really don't care what excuse a country gives for its mass executions. A dead man is a dead man is a dead man. It doesn't matter if he died of Typhus retconned to choking on Xyklon B or died crying for his mommy in the basement of the Lubyanka building. Murder is murder.

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>>52972268
>Caim got his prequel canned because he wanted to fug his sister

>>52971750
>Bavarian
>wanting to be descended from mountain niggers

>>52972268
>Typhus retconned to choking on Xyklon B
Oy vey

>>52972268
What did you and Paizo talk about?

>>52976930
Weird fetishes

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>>52977142
Well, they would know.

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>>52977427

>>52977427
This is almost as good an eldritch monster generator as the Fursona book for Pathfinder.

>>52974424
Autocorrect. Supposed to be typhus or regrettably choking.

>>52976930
Elves. Mostly elves.

>>52977427
No fucking way.

>>52976930
Jimmy spoke to Paizo? What?

>>52979928
Yeah, they apparently called Jimmy and co. the "Huns", because they came from nowhere and are causing a ruckus.

>>52979967
Quite a nickname coming from a company who employs former Blackwater mercenaries convicted of war crimes.

>>52981204
JJ needs to get his authentic fapfics from somewhere

>>52981204
Is that true? Metal.

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Hey Jimmy. Should a Silver Guard or a Paladin kill a Sarturi Chosen, would they still gain Faith Arc thanks to No Hard Feelings? How do their patron gods Boccy and Genos feel about this double dipping divinity arc?

I know that this isn't exactly what the system was intended for but I feel like SoS would work very well for a dark ages zombie game. Any ideas for how a zombie should be statted or how they would fight and be a threat to a fully armored player?
Also after reading through the PDF I saw an infection system and was wondering if there would be any plans to implement a disease system?
Although as a player and DM I feel like it would not be very satisfying to lose a character to a plague, any tips for making the risk of disease more engaging?

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>>52983174

>>52983251
Thanks.

>>52983174
Undead aren't really an accidental thing in SoS's home setting. They're products of intentionally corrupted spiritual fire in each organism capable of sustaining one. I suppose a magical disease or plague could result in undead but I'm not really sure how you would combat it as a player without magic of your own. Perhaps certain herbs or rituals could cleanse you of the infection, or divine help. As for how undead are a threat in SoS it's simple. They. Will. Not. Stop.

Undead suffer no pain or bleed, are insanely hard to actually kill (usually requiring abssolute destruction) and never get tired. To a man in armor a single weak undead may not be a threat. But two, three, fifteen? They'll overwhelm him, that's not taking in to account the fact that as undead age, corrupt and kill more they become smarter and more powerful. PC level undead have all the benefits of undeath and average or better intellect anf ability to use weapons, armor and tactics.

>>52983320
I noticed the hard to kill thing, does that mean that beheading a zombie or destroying its brain doesn't seem to stop it. I imagine that unarmed/unintelligent zombies would probably rely on grappling and biting to actually grin someone down, but even an armored character knocked prone doesn't seem like they'd be in too much trouble with a zombie pounding on them, unless I don't understand how the damage is calculated.

>>52981204
Is this an actual thing, or is it one of those gamergate things where someone just comes up with a conspiracy condensed into one meme filled text wall picture?

>>52984023
I haven't heard of it, but a company hiring someone who used to work for a merxenary unit would be very easy to prove, and doesn't sound to unusual desu.

>>52983984
The issue is that the weakest undead is in olympian territory when it comes to strength, approaching and surpassing he physical human maximum as they progress. 8 strength is where the damage model kind of begins the breakdown, making you a threat to plate armor without anti-armor weapons like polearms. Grappling an entirely untiring and physically superior opponent is even worse, the undead can just throw all of its dice at you every round without much fear of reprisal, why does it care if you hit it? It doesn't feel pain and only takes half shock. Its only purpose in unlife is to cause misery and death. When grappling it gets it strength in additional dice to act with, meaning it is pretty likely to break bones, strangle you or throw you so hard its like you fell off a building. That is only one, undead are rarely alone. So while the one has you grappled and is breaking your arm with agonizing slowness and inevitability, the other one is cackling in your face as it lifts your helmet and slowpushes a dagger through your mouth. Undead are terrible man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L7VJl76i9U

>>52984676
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>EGG
I'm dying

>>52981229
That's kinda spoopy. Sounds like the sort of thing that's described as really nice but if you went there it'd probably be some Shub Niggurath shit.

>>52987036
That's because it is. In kind of romantic way of looking at lovecraftian gods, I guess.

Genosus demands work from you. You do not get to choose. You are, by definition, a slave to his will, a worker with no other purpose than build his monument, until he leaves leaving you in the void of darkness.

Boccanadessia owns you, like one would own a flower. The moon is the garden where you will forever be held, in form of a flower, singing along with her song until the day she decides to pick you up, or until Boccy leaves the garden to die.

And in lovecraftian fashion, they aren't the end all of gods. There is something bigger that they belong to. So, at any moment, that something bigger could command the sun and moon to leave this world, leaving everything in it to void with no light or song. And that's when the dark watchers will descend into the world.

>>52984023
I don't know who's baiting anymore.

>>52988101
Just consider it meta baiting, where everyone is doing it in a good humor. As long as nobody gets down to "You're literally hitlerwanker", it's fine.

>>52988146
>ballad is literally nazi propaganda
>"nobody getting down to 'you're literally hitler'"

>>52988193
Amazing, isn't it? The worst trigger I have gotten here is when somebody called sos a copy of tros, and even that has turned into a drinking game.

>>52988193
I think the subject matter of SoS is so esoteric that it necessitates a degree of levity because the community is just too small to hold grudges.

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>>52987578
>Meanwhile Sartur

>>52984270
>>52983984
Any tips on how to run it as more of a standard zombie?

http://ballad.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_the_Void_Wiki


The gun section is looking a lot cooler, I wish we had this level of detail in the SoS wiki.

>>52988839
Just tweak the stats if you want it to be a bit less ridiculous. Right now the undead are the opposite of what they usually are, they'll fucking stomp weaker characters.

In most Zombie fiction the key to defeating the zambambos is planning. Zombies are only dangerous if they ambush you. Here though, they'll kick your fucking ass even if they see you coming unless you have serious firepower or high levels of martial skill. I'd say reduce their CP and mobility dramatically.

>>52988839
Don't start them at STR 8. Go with 5 for normal zombies and 6-7 for extra nasty ones, like fully armored zombie men at arms.

>>52988839
>>52991254
>>52991355
What these guys said. It is also a matter of if you want to do away with the durability system too. Make it so that any wound with the dead effect to the head will kill them if you want brain zombies. You can also just play them a little dumber, make them easily escaped and avoided in small groups. The scary thing about zombies in most horror media isn't physicality but their alien nature and the fear and panic of people around them.

Make your players and their companions make fear tests and what not. They should be worrying about the macro game with an undead outbreak, keeping them away from cities and keeping the population calm. Keeping infrastructure working and shit.

>>52989374
I have some sword autism. I'm sure others do. We can make pages for them.

>>52992547
Alas, sword autism is one thing but having the right brand for a pseudo-16th century setting another.

There is also the question of what exactly we'd put on the wiki. It's not the same as Jimmy filing the serial numbers off his favorite interbellum pistols.

>>52992899
One of the biggest complaints about the weapon list is that the average person doesn't know what some of the more obscure weapons are, or when they're appropriate. A perfect use of the wiki would be to provide a picture of a weapon along with a rough period and location of usage.

>>52992899
If we could put a picture and brief description of weapons and armor it be cool.

>>52988235
He hasn't been around. I miss him. That and the angry Polish guy.

>>52988235
Also katana bashing and/or wanking.

>>52995898
I feel like we don't do a whole lot of either; guys here tend to have a fairly realistic idea of what a katana can do.

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>>52963561
We need knives. Nothing but knives. A knife for every situation, and a parry to close every gap.

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Crippled thread, crippled bump.

>>52987578
Very much in line with Jimmy's religious philosophy. "A 19th century land surveyor loses his mind over the colours out of space, a 14th century peasant just gets out of the way."

It's a very occult way of looking at religion. Of course God is a monster, have you ever been outside? The whole world is monstrous. Religion is about contextualizing the monstrousness of the universe so that it is acceptable.

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>Jimmy blogging about his daily life

>>52996145
There used to be a whole lot of arguments, back in the day. People slowly learned though.

>>53000645
Hot

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>>53006727
Is it actually bronze, or just colored steel?

>>53007495
Isn't his armor supposed to be orichalcum?

>>53007495
Orichalcum I believe, with steel on the masks decoration

>>53007574
>>53008170
no, the mask is orichalcum and so is the belly plate I think but if I recall correctly, it is definitely not all orichalcum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlzLq5aadU

Everybody feel free to shill.

>>53009367
>dat thumbnail

Matt's meme powers are growing, "Top Ten Swordsmen in Anime" when?

>>53009797
Little by little we show them the light.

>>53009367
I vote Matt and Hendel discuss the magical secrets of the geometries of violence.

>>53010834
Post it in the comments. You'll be the second one to do so.

>>53010937
We must find that comment and upvote it.

>>53010959
It's not too far down if you go newest first.

>>53010959
Does anyone know how to link to a comment directly?

>>53010959
I think replies matter more than upvotes

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These threads keep dying. Someone should do something about this, a fecht maybe.
not it

>>53012689
It'll heat up once we get releases going.
I just had to kill one of my brother's pets. Poor critter was tumorous and terrible. We really shouldn't keep rodents as pets unless they live like 20 years. Chinchillas 4 lyfe. Trying to keep high spirits, I've never had to kill something I was friends with before.

Anyway the upside is I now know how long it takes to gas a R@, so we're prepared for the next Warhammer TW expansion.

>>52965787
jimmy is really just a libertarian who ironically memes /pol/ stuff.

SoS is made by an octaroon hispanic, black guy and neckbeard. The settings mascot is a short brown woman who lives in a multicultural democracy (that's shitty but so is every other country).

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>>52966648
>That midriff
I am now the most loyal citizen of Krajina to ever live. What do I have to do, eat eels and talk like a fag?

>>53013138
Also I'm Jimmy, I'm just upset at killing an animal so I forgot name.

>>52951327
Or just become an autistic retard like myself and make your own magic homebrew

>>53014069
Another dead commie, eh? How long until the shakes go away?

>>53004785
My only problem with the katana and the weapon list is general, is how weapon compare to each other. Katana to other swords is an example. Its almost like the guy decides which weapon gets what by pulling traits out of his ass

>>53014497
in general*

>>53014324
I didn't feel bad until I burned the little thing. I got sick because it smelled good. Rat smells alright when it cooks.

Who is the nukarama guy editing the wiki? He part of opaque, or just some guy writing fanon?

Which has more fun crossover potential?

People/polities from Tattered Realms in Blue Rose or people/polities from Ballad in Blue Rose? You could have a fleet of UCUC vs Chiron fighting a proxy war to influence the world. Or some renaissance kingdoms with equally foreign ideas trying to split up the world between them?

I'm thinking of Blue Rose since it's where the Palinka Effect comes from and because it's a very utopian setting, in contrast to Tattered Realms and Call of The Void.

>>53014879
He helped write most of Ballad

>>53014879
He's part of the fandom, but he's very, very into firearms and such, and he helped me write Ballad. He was also very influential on the Roll20, ran a few Fechts and so on.

But, mostly one of the lads like you.

>>53014497
Since there's absolutely no way to make an objective scale to represent a weapon's effectiveness and if doing so were possible would require hundreds of hours of testing, this is literally the only option. If you have an issue with how a weapon is represented, bring it up and give an argument.

>>53014497
>this again
Should I just link the last time this was brought up to save the trouble of restating already articulated arguments

>>53015885
Why haven't you yet

>>53015918
Just for that, I used Warosu

>>53014497
Read this whole shitty discussion and report back.

>>53015976
https://warosu.org/tg/thread/S52533958#p52559363

>>53015707
I demand that TNs and damage now be measured in joules and to have peer review of all stats.

>>53014154
Share with the class

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>>53018778
what a cancerous image

>>53009367
The absolute madman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv-ukY7l9iU

>>53017052
I made a Mage and Acolyte classes that fit with my own setting. Since the Tattered Realms have that cool Pyromancy and Sorcery thing I don't think it would fit.

I based the mechanics for Mages on a 15 or so year old Korean MMO I loved as well. I just made a few schools of magic that you can pay proficiency to get easier and cheaper training at it, and after paying a certain amount of arc and school prerequisites you can get to advanced professions, like Elementalists, Pyromancers, White Mages, etc. So in the end it's more of a thing to fit my own desires for a low power magic system than something that would actually benefit SoS

>>53018927
That last part does make it seem that Matt is planning a Youtube Deathmatch Tournament on a deserted island somewhere.

So Jimmy, after Matt teleports you using with a spell he found in a 16thC fechtbuch to his Grand Arena- what sword do you choose for the livestreamed gladiatorial combat?

>>53019926
Twin Urumi is the only acceptabpe answer.

How well does SoS mesh with BotLW thematically? Like if I want to play a life-or-death struggle on the edge of a knife -- but I want to use modernish guns -- does Ballad fit that as well as SoS does?

>>53013138
Don't keep chinchillas in California. They will get way too hot.

>>53018927
From the comments, this got the number one man on YouTube to give him a shout-out, so this will pay off for Matt's ad revenue.

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>>53020994
Not that it matters.

>>53020994
Yet the vid is only sitting at 12.5 thousands views, checking Pewd's Twitter it seems his followers are more likely to try and give their own "funny" reply than actually watch the video.

>>53020390
Yes. They're virtually the same game, Ballad is slightly more streamlined but still brutal.

>>53020390
Right now Ballad's melee rules are literally just "use SoS" so I guess they must mesh okay.

>>53021504
>>53021467
http://theweek.com/articles/468625/irresponsibly-stupid-dangerous-camouflage-patterns-military

On the subject of Camouflage. Ballad needs better rules for different kinds of camo.

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>>53022506
On this same subject, I served in the Marine Corps in Iraq. Entire divisions were outfitted woodland camo. In a desert. It's pretty embarassing when the Germans in WWII, who were starving to death in some places, were able to outfit their men better than what is ostensibly the wealthiest nation on Earth with the largest military budget by a factor of 5.

A part of this is actually intentional. Part of the USMC's internal narrative is that it is the underdog, the brass never assigns enough resources to the corps. Except it does. It absolutely does. But most of that money is deliberately wasted so that the Marines don't come in under budget, because Republicans cut funds if you come in under budget. The Republicans have a fetish for the USMC, so this is one area where they overlook wastefulness because muh patriotism, but only to a certain point. So the corps wastes 5 billion dollars worth of ammunition at the end of every fiscal year, but they don't splurge on uniforms and such because these are considered peripheral expenses, and thus frivilous.

I imagine militaries in Ballad, which fight actual wars against actual opponents, do not have this funding problem. Camouflage would be considered a high priority. I'd actually really like to talk to Jimmy about this subject because hte setting seems very interesting when it comes to camo, I'm curious about how lighting works there, each island has its own sun? Is most "light" actually starlight? It'd be cool to think about that.

>>53022652
What was your opinion of officers? I hear officers in the US army are garbage, we joked about it when I was serving in Finland. The average fighting yank is of good quality, but the officers are inept.

>>53022652
>So the corps wastes 5 billion dollars worth of ammunition
You don't call it corruption?

>>53022701
That's mostly banter. It's just grunts shitting on officers because most of them are college grads with high-minded ideas. The older officers get, the more the guys like them because of the hero-worship culture. Look at how people idolize fucking Mattis, it's almost a parody at this point.

>>53022966
>but they don't splurge on uniforms and such because these are considered peripheral expenses, and thus frivilous
Meant the other part

>>53011110
Next to the username of a comment you have "x hours/minutes ago" right click that -> copy link location. That (at least it should, doesn't always work for me) links to the comment.

>>53022966
I wouldn't call it that, none of the officers get a kickback or anything, they're just aware that if they come in under budget, the budget might be cut, and the way the requisition system works is retarded because bureaucracies are always retarded. You can't explain to senators that the costs vary depending on what's happening that year, they can't put that on a ballot. It's easier just to use all the spare budget in firing drills and stuff.

Corruption would be if the officers were selling guns on the side or something like that, and the brass takes that very seriously. Only the CIA is allowed to do that.

>>53023042
One thing that's almost corruption though, is that every branch basically embezzles funds for secret R&D. The Air Force is by far the most guilty of this, they've been developing shit under the table for decades now, and they get away with it because the produce results. The Corps doesn't really do that, or if they do it, they don't produce anything cool so they don't get credit for it.

I'm sure the Navy does this too, but the Navy is a fucking black hole of information. Trying to figure out what the US Navy is doing is like pulling teeth out of a duck. There's nothing to grab onto and if you manage to pull something out nobody will believe it was real anyway.

>tfw Jimmy just invaded me in MGSV
Thanks for killing 20 of my men and taking nothing, Jimbo. Those S-ranks weren't hard to get at all. Why did you even invade, what's the fucking point if you don't capture men?

>>53023010
It's astounding how bad the basic UIs of huge websites like Youtube are.

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>>53024212
Beef up your security or I will continue killing your men until you have none left.

>>53024567
So you're basically a serial killer?

How would you build a Grutte Zweihander fighter /sosg/? One of my players wants to use it but I have no idea what to suggest for him. We are 26 PCP

So I head shit's going down in Macedonia

The second coming of Alexander the Great when?

>>53026970
I'd probably take Tall level 2, Spear-Sunderer and laugh continuously till I was shot dead.

>>53027859
What's happening in Macedonia?

>>53027952
PM is breaking the constitution by refusing to step down because unlike in America, when the opposition says they're going to put you in jail when they get elected they mean it.

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>>53024212
>Those S-ranks weren't hard to get at all.
That's right. They aren't. You get dozens just by doing challenges and deployments, and redoing main missions every sixth or so guy has an S rank.

Just got a concept sketch of my backer art and I'm pretty stoked to be quite honest with all you famalams.

>>53030277
>STOKED.com

>>53030277
Gib gib so we can see

>>53026649
The Phantom Psychopath.

>>53031474
NNNNNNNNUUUUUUUCLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR

>>53030277
Working fast at least.

>>53030277
I really need to send in my stuff.

>>53027859
FYROM isn't really Macedonia though.

Do crossbows truly have less range than a normal bow, If so, why is this?

>>53036232
If I had to guess off the top of my head I would say generally short draw length.

>>53036232
Depends on the era and the crossbow.
They get pretty fast to same ranges as bows, and Jimmy is just retarded.

>>53036232
>>53036639
>>53036811
http://www.thebeckoning.com/medieval/crossbow/cross_l_v_c.html
Jimmy, read this.

>>53036845
Will do.

Can anybogy post The sos Zombie pdf? Im on The phone so mega doesnt work for me

>>53038144
>>52983251

>>53038199
Danke

>>53036845
Does this author have any credentials?

>>53038605
I'd say so
http://www.thebeckoning.com/lore/firewolf.html

>>53018927
what the fuck
I'm afraid to watch this

>>53042760
You could substitute Pewdiepie with Joe Bloggs and it would be the same video. But it does bring in the crowd.

>>53043187
It's not really got more views than normal despite getting a twitter shoutout from the man himself, goes to show that demographics are king I suppose.

>>53023010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlzLq5aadU&lc=z13hurwyrkzldfa4g04cc35opuzngz0hybc

>>53043242
The real money makers are the movie fight reviews. Look at the Force Awakens one. 150k views when his regular videos get 20-25k.

>>53043242
I'm just surprised Matt wasn't devoured by Tumblrites for associating himself with Pewdiepie in any way after the whole Nazi debacle.

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>>53045350
It's the social climate. People only cared what whiny tumblr types thought for a very brief time between 2012 and 2016. Then they gained enough cultural capital to humiliate themselves with massive cringey SJW nonsense (I dislike that term but it's a colloquialism), so now now the dominant internet culture is very much swinging towards the sort of irreverent nu-right iconoclasm that le edgy nazi jokes represents.

Also look at Easton himself, the guy wears "X against Racism" T-shirts, as though anyone except Andrew Anglin believes racism is a good thing. It's like saying "X against Chemical Fires," no shit everyone hates chemical fires. It's pure virtue signalling, but even he is willing to try to get into the Pewdiepie market despite the Nazi jokes. Just goes to show that practicality outweighs idealism every time.

Hell look at me. I'm on /tg/, a board with an EXTREME resistance to /pol/ ideas and I've gotten away with saying all sorts of hideous stuff as a joke. The narrative that le SJW menace has the power to punish people for being funny is dead, the worst you get is some dipshit Antifas showing up at rallies and getting the shit beaten out of them by dudes dressed like Spartans, and what does that impact anything we do? It doesn't. They have no power. The only constraint on people like us now is our desire not to turn our businesses into cringey soapboxes to preach politics. I certainly don't want to do that, and I doubt anyone else does. As long as you aren't trying to use your fun game as a way to brainwash people I don't think it matters what you say anymore.

Wish the people running the internet would just get with the program already. We're dealing with society-wide Streisand Effect right now and it's only going to get more embarrassing for the doofuses who think they can police what people say and think as time goes on.

>>53046511
I can never decide whether you're a liberal from California trying to infiltrate 4chan or a closeted NatSoc trying to infiltrate larger markets.

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>>53047175
Couldn't you at least imagine me as something interesting, instead of a cartoon character? I should be like a David Icke-tier conspiracy theorist. SoS is actually my vehicle for revealing the lizardman infiltration of our government to you impressionable young people.

You know I was super into Kropotkin when I was 20, I'm actually secretly an Anarchist. It was all a long ploy!

>>53047377
Yo Jimmy, now that some people have gotten a rough of their backer art how much leeway do they have in changing it?

>>53047561
For that, you should communicate with the art staff. I don't have a hand in that beyond advising--I'm scared of artists. They're like witches.

>>53047686
Are you telling me that Bones is versed in the blackest of magicks?

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>>53047377
They're putting chemicals in the water to turn the fricking zells gay!

>>53046511
I dunno man, the more I look at shit the more I feel like *more* people these days are buying into extremist social justice crap, not *less*. I don't really see any particular moment of total humiliation and cringe that stands out to anybody except guys dedicated against it.

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>>53049180
Well, it might depend on where you go, but I wouldn't be worried. Just keep posting swords m8.

>>53049180
I feel like it's more of both, the sjw types are firmly entrenched and proselytizing in the colleges which naturally leads to more people taking that opposition stance when normally they'd be more moderate. Personally I really like to troll the ultra progressive types with alt right statements, and I'm a freaking socialist.

I literally heard some nerdy white talking about how much he hated white people at a party last weekend. I interjected that some of my best friends are white, but I don't think he got the joke.

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>>53049482
Will do.

>>53049619
I think many people feel the same. I wonder how history books will remember this era of fad-ideology. Or, is this how it's always been?

>>53049180
Some of that shit is also becoming less extremist, though. Like, go down to your local middle school and ask some of the new generation how they feel about pronouns and genders. They may sound liberal as fuck but a lot of times what it really boils down to is that they are fine with using "they" for a singular specific person (as opposed to a singular non-specific person, which has been common for centuries) and consider someone else's gender to be their own business.

>>53049619
>I don't think he got the joke.
How did he respond?

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>>53050030
>>53051182
hush children, only swords now.

>>53047686
>I'm scared of artists. They're like witches.
Same but for voice actors, the demon-throats.

>>53051620
post S C Y T H I A N swords

>>53053839
Careful he'll hear you

>>53051182
He started hemming and hawing about not hating white people, but hating "white people" as a societal force or some shit, and I was too drunk to give a fuck and wandered back to my friends and my whiskey.

>>53054662
So not only is he a cunt, he's a pussy as well.

Figures.

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>>53054662
>>53051620
And, to stay on topic, pic related.

>>53054680
Indubitably. But rubbing elbows with cunts and pussies is the price you pay for going to the Punk party scene at colleges nowadays.

Not really related, but at the same party I had some crazy hippy try to convince me that "Vikings fought Dinosaurs," no fucking joke.

Not, "the ancestors of the Scandinavian peoples might have had to combat and hunt megafauna," nope, "Vikings fought fucking Dinosaurs."

Bunch of retards running loose these days.

Wait, sorry, the R-word is frowned upon.

Bunch of Intellectually Disabled persons running loose these days.

>>53054809
Viking should have fought dinosaurs, that would've been awesome.

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>>53054956
Hell yes it would have, but that if you believed that shit's real you're a goddamn dumbass.

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>>53019647
My lad, share with the less artistically powered anons. The class desires the brew.

>>53014925
Tattered Realms.

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bamparam

Is there a discord server for SoSbros?

>>53058490
https://discord.gg/d66n2SW
The next OP guy should add the link to the op.

>>53058639
+1, cheers

>>53058490
Of course. Why do you think the thread needs bumps to get through the night?

>>53058062
>>53056648
Sweet.

>>53060907
I got bunch of sword and fighting pdfs, some whivh I might have gotten from here in the first place. Will post more when the thread needs a bump

>>53060907
What the hell, I'm too distracted and tired to do anything smart. Dumping shit.

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Fighting and weapon history pdfs, with some misc. stuff.

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End dump. Got few files too big to share on 4chan, but they are essentially just Fiore or Lichtenauer fechtbooks that you can find stuff for everywhere.

>>53061388
Hey, it's our old friend Fairbairn.

>>53061228
Read the whole thing, made me want to punch some enemies!

>>53061734
Don't get too excited. It's almost impossible to spin hitting someone with knuckles as self defense.

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MEANWHILE IN VENEZUELA

>>53063339
>tfw we're going to have IRL SoS footage soon
Venezuelans aren't pussies like we are up here, I expect to see people get their limbs chopped off.

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Also here's some spent tear gas canisters.

>>53063339
The fuck's happening in venezuela?

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>>53063548
Good things and fun times only.

President refuses to step down. Here's the source of these images:
http://imgur.com/gallery/bBGCL

>>53063548
Turns out that when your economy is going to shit and people have constant shortages of basic necessities, people will only tolerate you shrieking about how it's all the Americans' fault rather than actually making positive changes for so long.

>>53063548
The entire country's economy was based around oil because their last president was a retard and their current president was a bus driver and they refused to diversify the markets instead using the funds to buy shit for themselves and gibs for the people to pacify them and nationalizing all of the industries that might've saved them and drove them into the ground by installing inept party apparatchiks in the place of actual professionals in charge of them. Then Fracking happened in 'Murica possibly threatening OPEC's stranglehold on oil production and the Saudis went "nope" and flooded the market to drive prices down in the hopes of killing the Fracking industry in its infancy but this destroyed the Venezuelan economy and now they're eating dogs.

So they're rebelling pretty hard because they don't want to starve to death and there are only so many dogs in the country but the police are all drawn from the Party so they're loyal to the government so the retarded system is now collapsing. Good times.

>>53063740
Mind, fracking in America isn't why Maduro (and Chavez before him) constantly bitch about and blame them; they just spin up sensationalist fiction about more general economic sabotage and spying and invasion plans.

>>53063548
It might have something to do with that time they printed ~50 billion Bolivar in ~50 days at the end of last year.

So did the AHCA go through?

>>53063832
You aren't a good little Bolivarian Revolutionary if you aren't blaming everything on the yankees

>>53063914
o-oh, it did

well

i didn't need internet anyway h-ha ha

>>53063832
Oh sure, it probably wasn't what the Americans were trying to do either, an unintended side effect. I don't think anyone expected the Saudis to snap like they did.

>>53063948
It has always struck me as hilariously perverse how revolutionaries who get in power just love to pretend that they're still revolutionaries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4_PWKOCz0U
I'll just park that here for you guys.

>>53063548
Apparently you can prop up a communist regime on oil exports, but only until the international price of oil falls.

>>53063860
>the currency of Venezuela is called the Bolivar
What a meme country. It's like it was designed by a teenager playing NationStates.

>when Americans riot we talk about how the tactics of the Venetian stick wars would be appropriate to modern political fighting
>when the Venezuelans riot we talk about politics and communism
Not sure what this means, if anything.

>>53064531
We are an enlightened people, clearly.

>>53064490
Was there something communistic about the Venezuelan regime?

>>53064633
Actually more socialist, but the rhetoric and the whole "nationalize all important industries" things were pretty communist.

>>53064513
Well it was, it has no value now. I think they've switch to the U.S. dollar and if I'm correct then the irony is getting insane considering at least one government press release called the monetary collapse a U.S. plot.

>>53064531
There's no good footage, is the problem. American LARP-politics aren't the same as people who are desperately starving fighting the police, I think they're a bit hesistent to show the stuff, so we don't really know what's happening yet.

It'll never be as fucking bonkers as that mess in the Ukraine was. I remember Jimmy joked that he doubted anything would come of that. It's the only time he's ever been categorically wrong about a political prediction while I've known him.

>>53064876
>I think they're a bit hesistent to show the stuff
Who's "they"? Footage from both situations is almost entirely from people on the ground, the mainstream media doesn't care much in the US and are actively suppressing it in Venezuela.

>>53064876
Jimmy's mistake was probably because as an American, his knowledge of geography is very poor and so he assumed that Ukraine was a European nation, when in fact it is clearly an Asian one.

>>53064975
Your mistake is assuming Ukraine is an Asian nation, when in truth it is the worst of all, a Slavic nation.

>>53064513
Technically it's the Bolivar Fuerte. It was revalued from an older period of severe inflation in 2008.

>>53065166
So the previous currency is the Bolívar Débile?

>>53065154
Slavic nations also enjoy a spot of ice puck, so they can't be the worst.

>>53065195
>coming soon for 2017, the bolivar mas fuerte

spelling's wrong I know but I don't know the codes for spanish accent marks off the top of my head

>>53065317
If you enable the international keyboard you can switch between that and the usual with the windows key and space bar.

Or 0768 is the combining character that works with any vowel.

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>>53065317
>Venezuelan money names in 20 years

More venezuela.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH74j-dPu88

>>53065949
now post may day paris

>>53066123
Not him but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4gnKME4Bg