Have your ever taken inspiration from speculative zoology

>>52913113
Almost exclusively, bro.

>>52913571
Care to give any examples?

>>52913113
Yes, I've made a dinosaur-based variant for a bird race, similar to the ones in that image but more humanoid.

Of course, biology alone isn't enough to make a race.

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>>52913113
Zooid creature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRk3VqE9Zoc

>>52913113
What does zoology have to do with sentient races? You didn't even say anthropology, which would make way more sense.

>>52914200
haha this fucking idiot doesn't understand what speculative zoology is

>>52914200
>implying we're not all just mammals
>implying some of us aren't cannibals who cut other people open like cantaloupe
Catch the fuck up m8

>>52914200
Antropology is about developement of culture, but evolution of species is perview of zoology, whether the species is sapient or not. The former can very easily result from the later (many aspects of culture could be greatly affected by the physiology of the species, which is the result of their evolutionary history).

I've never bothered goign full spec-evo, though. Too much work. Usually I just start with an archetype and give them traits that would make sense given the environment and culture. In fantasy this sin't necessary hard science. Like I justified elves having a bazillion different variant races by saying the elves' close connection to the land allows them to adapt into a new environment in a few generations, so you get a bunch of physically distinct elf "subraces" in different environments that would still genetically be the same elf race.

In a SF setting I've been making I didn't go particularly hard science but wanted to have all alien races have some kind of verisimilitude so they'd appear at least at a glance biologically plausible. Like for an arthropoid race I designed their appearance following the "rules" of actual arthropod development (basically, you start with a simple organism composed of identical segments with one pair of biramous limbs each, then start fusing segments and altering limbs to produce your final organism), while also making them not quite match any extanct arthropod.

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>>52913113
Yes. Extremely speculative biology.

>>52914271
He doesn't know what anthropology is either

Give me one good reason your setting doesn't have intelligent dinosaurs in it.
I'll wait

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I've been creating a beastiary for my homebrew setting and Terryl Whitlatch's books have been invaluable for imagining new monsters.

>>52917777
Is there any download links for these books?
Google only returns endless lists of clickbait.

>>52914497
After you learn English, I would suggest actually reading about Anthropology.

>>52914499
This image is incorrect. Note that the person trying to push this narrative of Neanderthals as savage apes has been missing in action since DNA evidence proved him completely, utterly wrong.

>>52917777
Care to share?

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>>52917986
Obviously, but that doesn't mean it isn't a fun idea.

>>52914479
Mom's spaghetti

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>>52920441
How about a primate race like that but based on gelada baboons?

>>52920441
>very fast apeman running at incredible high speed

>>52921444
>floof
>sentience
I like it

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>>52914499
>>52920441
>>52917986
>>52921444
>>52921976
well if we're posting about the Predatory Neanderthal theory, might as well post a particularly insane book that features it pretty heavily(along with a bunch of other Pseudo-Science that makes no sense in the real world but would make for a really fun RPG setting)

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>>52921444
I still vote that anything as familiar and mobile as a primate shouldn't be allowed to have teeth like this.

How is anything alive as long as baboons exist?

>>52923687
they allow it

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>>52923757
Can we at least all agree on never allowing this to learn how to use tools?

>>52923853
Jaws like those? Who needs tools anyway

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REMOVE QU

>>52923853
Why do they have chest vaginas.

>>52925917

Airsacs mate. They inflate that shit.

>>52926026
That's stupid. Evolution is stupid.

>spec zoology apes
I had one such species in my campaign. Dark skin, extremely violent, prone to making eerie and discordant sounds, and based a language around those sounds. They were intelligent enough to use weapons but very little else and had an odd aversion to the color blue.

Numbers of those apes decreased the further the players got from a prison, and dissapeared altogether when they left Detroit.

>>52923620
I don't consider anything insane unless it has space jews from the future in it.

>>52926960
I dunno considering that one of the main premises of the book is that Saturn used to be a Brown Dwarf Star and that Earth used to be one of it's moons, and that one of the authors literally wrote a book named Saturn Death Cult, I'd say it's pretty insane

My whole setting is going to be speculative evolution, from playable humanoid races to animal enemies.
It's going to be somewhat modest in scope though, focused more on trying to fit typical fantasy races and creatures into a realistic setting, and making IRL wildlife a bit more dangerous for encounters, maybe bringing back a few extinct species like terrorbirds.

>>52914479
Man I always thought he said "envelopes", not "cantaloupes"

>>52923757
They have many predators and usually act cowardly. Only the males sometimes face threats instead of running away.
They're usually not under heavy predation pressure, though, since their habitats are often close to humans.

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I base dwarf physiology roughly on neanderthals.
Goblins are a mix of human/lemur physiology, with society partially modeled off tamarins.
Kenku are straight up just pic related.
I have an insectoid race that's a mash-up of ants, cicadas and jumping spiders.
Elves are bird-ish, with tetrachromatic vision, extra vertebrae, etc. They're not actually evolved from birds, but I thought it added a neat "otherness" element to them to look like people on the outside but have entirely different underlying physiology.
Most other things are just fantastical, but have some inspiration drawn from zoology. Dragonborn psychology for example is based on cat behavior, or solitary predator behavior in general. Their bodies are just pure nonsense magic engines though, like all things draconic.

>>52917631
They're called crows anon

>>52929790
>intelligent

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>>52931177
>he thinks crows aren't intelligent
when the uprising begins, watch youself

>>52932396
>he thinks crows are intelligent
loving every laugh

>>52932396
You mean Ravens anon.

>>52933556
Next you'll tell me dolphins aren't rapists

>>52933599
>>52933556
They have a language.
They SPEAK.

>>52933599
Ravens solve puzzles better.
Crows will remember your face.
You decide which is the greater danger.

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>>52926041
You're stupid.

>No Man After Man

>>52936443
sorry don't have any pics from it on hand, if I ever get a second copy maybe I'll take apart one of them and do some scans though(same with my copy of The New Dinosaurs, and if I ever get my hands on After Man)

>>52923620
This was a good read. I am seriously looking into using this as the basis for an adeptus evangelion game.

>>52926960
This does have space Jews from Ganymede, but they are not from the future. Well, the author actually says they can't disprove time travel, but that it's easier to assume the Jovian Jews are not using it.

>>52926960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib8jUV77VgI

Man I really want to turn this into a setting...

>>52939082
would certainly be interesting

>>52936443
That one sucked!

>>52917777
could be very exotic takes on griffons

>>52936443
The art for that book is really bad

>>52946076
>not liking the derpy 80s art

Shit taste m8.

Holy shit is this an All Tomorrows reference?

>>52946898
Same artist

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>>52946898
>>52948847
He has a pretty good youtube channel, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaobB9jyNo0

>>52935426
>>52933599

They're all corvids, retards

>>52949456
is this supposed to be a dolphin?

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>>52925872
Oh they are on the list, just not the very top

>>52949845
It's a Human. Thanks, Qu!

>>52949456
I think he needs to do more spec bio instead of paleontology stuff.

>>52914100
Love it.

But if you think about it, most pluricelular beings do some form of symbiosis. Our bodies wouldn't work without gut bacteria.

>>52950758
Oh they'd work just poorly

>>52949623
Magpies too

>>52938713
Where do these ideas come from?