Doom Slayer wakes up from another long nap and emerges in 40k.

>>52800621
>How fucked is Chaos?
Depends on the fanbase

>>52800621
Not very.

It takes him several hours to wade through a small science outpost, by WH40k standards it wouldn't qualify as a tool shed. The first time he comes across a demonworld, he'd be there fighting and winning forever. But the likelihood of him inflicting any critical losses to Chaos are slim to none, even if he takes down some princes.

We have this thread every day, don't we?

Doom slayer vs doom marine: who wins?

There are so many daemons and monsters on 40k that you can't just let him loose on the galaxy. You'd have to leave him on the Eye of Terror or that webway portal under the Golden Throne for him to actually make a difference.

>>52800621
Not really.

He dies within a few hours and doesn't rez because he's no longer in a videogame

maybe he takes out a few scores of bloodletters and a couple major daemons

if he's lucky

really the only reason why he's so badass in Doom is because you can keep playing after dying once.

>>52800801
Just because it takes you 20 tries to get past the first level, doesn't mean it takes Doom Marine 20 tries to get past first level. It's just that you're not badass enough to be Doom Marine.

>>52800675
He only has to murder so many demons before he starts to pick up the attention of the big guns, like the daemon princes and keeper of secret tier demons tho. And then, they are fucked.

>>52800801
You got it all wrong.
The only reason he's so weak in Doom is because you're supposed to die and retry. Or else the gameplay would be boring.
Canonically, he rip and tear his way through the entire game without any issue.

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>>52800675
>The first time he comes across a demonworld, he'd be there fighting and winning forever. But the likelihood of him inflicting any critical losses to Chaos are slim to none
This.

>>52800848
>Canonically, he rip and tear his way through the entire game without any issue.
Canonically doesn't he literally absorb energy from demons into his suit, becoming more powerful with each kill?

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>>52800621
He and Maugan Ra become best buds.

>>52800698
>Doom slayer vs doom marine: who wins?
What's the deference?

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>Drach'nyen aka the End of Empires aka Echo of the First Murder
>It's a daemon that was born when the first sentient human murdered his fellow man in cold blood
>This act, It's birth, is THE defining moment of mankind. It's when humanity's destiny was sealed
>As it was born, it reached out into the minds of all mankind. Every man, woman, and child that live, lived, and will live felt its touch as it tainted mankind across time and space
>Truly, a daemon of Chaos Undivided. It's kindred with all the daemons of Four and yet it stands apart. Wherever it goes, it will find a home each and everyone of the Four Powers
>It can sense anyone who shed blood no matter who or what it is. Machine or flesh. They are its prey. It hunts those who committed murder and feasts on their souls and flesh
>It can shapeshift into anything. From the tornado of claws and jaws to microscope bacteria
>It can mass possess machines and humans. However, it cannot possess the Custodes or the Sisters of Silences, these hated enemies it just slaughtered.
>It hunts the Emperor seeing his destruction and the fall of his empire as its singular purpose
>So strong its connection to mankind that Emperor was vulnerable to its lethal violence. Where it wounded him it sucked out his soul. Its destruction or banishment was something beyond the Emperor
>The Emperor fooled into imprisoning itself inside a Custodes who then fled as far as he can from the Emperor to protect he Emperor from the daemon meant to kill him

Doom marine faces the Drach'nyen and dies screaming. Doom demons are shit tiet compared to warhammer daemons.

>>52800936
>Doom demons are shit tiet compared to warhammer daemons.

I'm not so sure about that. The only real indicator of power of Doom demons we get is that they're capable of blowing up the world and that the Marine himself can mostly deal with them. It doesn't give all that much context on just how terrifying they are.

Could be they'd be precisely as bad as the WH ones if you gave them some more room to spread, more planets to blow up and less badass soldiers to slaughter.

>>52800621
Chaos is doomed.

>>52800931
Non. They are literally the same person. The events in Doom 2016 is likely in another dimension that the Doomslayer entered because Hell is a junction to various dimensions.

>>52800951
Doom demons were captured and restrained by humans who subjected them to all kind of scientific experiments.

Not only would 40K daemons would never have this happen to them but they will drive humans to insanity by just being close by,

>>52800621
If this doesn't end with him and Kaldor Draigo tag teaming Slaanesh, I will be wholly disappointed.

>>52800975
But 40k Imperium also does that kind of shit all the time.

>>52800936
So why is not Drach'nyen the supreme Daemon of Chaos Undivided instead of Be'lacuck?

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Oh wonderful, a thread where Doom wank and 40k wank can collide and become a giant autism splooge crusted jizz rag.

lets get this out of the way

>YOU CAN'T BEAT CHAOS BRO IT NEVER ENDS BRO THE WARP ALWAYS CORRUPTS YOU CHAOS ALWAYS WINS YOUR STUPID VIDEOGAME CHARACTER COULDN'T HANDLE REAL DEMONS

and

>DOOMGUY RUNS FASTER THAN ROCKETS AND PUNCHES MONSTERS SO HARD THEY EXPLOAD

Now that we have that out of the way, here's an honest fucking answer: Doomslayer in 40k would be a demonic entity of some kind himself, similar to the Legion of the Damned. This is actually pretty high tier because the Legion of the Damned routinely fuck shit up. He's not going to be taking down any chaos gods any time soon, but he can rumble with major demons and chaos champions.

Given his extreme HATE and RIP AND TEAR, Khorne would probably purposefully draw him onto a demon world and feed him a never ending tide of demons to slay, much like that ork warboss everyone likes, because Khorne rolls like that.

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>>52800988
Now since this thread is fucked, lets learn about the Legion of the Damned instead

>The Pyrocataclysm of Vilidad Prime (006.M40)
After broadcasting a terror message condemning the lack of beauty in the populace, the Renegades of the Flawless Host invaded the Adamantium mines of the world of Vilidad Prime. The 122nd Imeldan Destriers, a veteran Imperial Guard regiment assigned to monitor the tithe, made a valiant attempt to hold back the Renegades. Modified nova charges were set by the Flawless Host throughout the Adamantium mines and the population centres above them. Though the surviving Destriers fought the Chaos Space Marines every step of the way, the vast majority were slain in battle, their persecutors claiming the kills are "for the sin of mediocrity in the face of true beauty." Though the Destriers were reduced to their mortis threshold within the first three solar days of fighting, reports of strange Space Marines appearing in the mining districts croped up again and again, each time engaging the Flawless Host and driving them back. At first, the strikes were so sudden and brutally effective that the Destriers thought they had a real chance of outlasting the Renegades. When the Chaos Lord that called himself the Visionary joined the fight, a hundred daemonic handmaidens at his side, the tide swung back again, for many of the Legion's number were banished by the vorpal claws of the Slaaneshi daemons.

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>>52800984
Sorcerers and Necrons can capture daemons because they have the mental fortitude to withstand their madness inducement.

Normal humans can't bare being in the presence of daemons for too long.

>>52800986
Because its a sword now.

>>52801005
Just saying that Be'lakor should have been the sword instead.

>>52801001
Those Legionaries that remained became searing columns of fire, fighting with a fury that made them every bit as frightening as the Renegade invaders. During what came to be known as the Pyrocataclysm, the fire of the Legionaries proved able to burn even daemon flesh, and the Slaaneshi entities were sent screaming back to their master's foul realm. Though commiting a number of spiteful acts during its retreat, the Flawless Host fled back to its ships rather than risking disfigurement and defeat. During the fighting, a dozen new seams of adamantium were revealed by weapon blasts that scared the surface of Vilidad Prime. The nearby Forge World of Lipitou Anville tripled its production of war materiel, ensuring the majority of its labours benefited the Chapters of the Adeptus Astartes.

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>>52801016
>The Swords Reforged (343.M41)
When Hive Fleet Moloch invaded the Imperial weapons testing planet of Ghodba, the Tyranids found that the world had a vicious bite of its own. Everything from unclassified super-heavy war engines to gatling Macrocannons was employed by the Tech-priest Enginseers that supervised the planet's defences, with entire phalanxes of Baneblades and Shadowswords leading each charge against Moloch's many leader-beasts. Yet though Ghodba's surface was soon thick with Tyranid corpses, reinforcements couldn't reach the planet for solar months at best. The war of attrition startsed to tip in favour of the xenos invaders. The last Steel Fury squadron, the Swords of Ghodba, was crippled by sustained bio-cannon fire and swiftly overrun by numberless Gaunts. Its crew commended their souls to the Emperor, taking up their Laspistols and Autoguns, preparing for a last stand. Upon throwing open the hatches of their mobile fortresses, the crew of the Swords were stunned to see squad after squad of black-clad Space Marines forming a cordon around their tanks, the relentless pounding of their Bolters and the billowing flames of their heavy weapons blasting back the Hormagaunts scuttling around them. The crew bailed out, their saviours maintaining the cordon around them as they fought across three miles of corpse-strewn battleground to reach a squadron of Doomhammers, whose crews had been slain by Lictor attacks. With the chameleonic assassin-beasts blasted apart by pinpoint volleys from their Legionary escort, the crews of the Swords quickly familiarised themselves with the weapon suites of the Doomhammers and rejoined the fight. The introduction of three more super-heavy tanks and almost a hundred Legionaries tiped fate in favour of the Imperium. The invading swarm was shattered, dispersed, and hunted to extinction, forcing the rest of Hive Fleet Moloch to seek its prey elsewhere.

>>52801015
Be'lakor is too smart for that. He didn't survive for millions of years as renegade daemon without being smart enough as not screw himself by shapeshifting into a form he would be stuck in.

>>52800936
Whoever wrote that shit fanwanked Chaos to the next level and beyond mate.

>>52801043
>Chaos shouldn't have their own version of the Emperor in form of daemon that represents all the evil within men born out greatest act of sin in human history
>A dark reflection of the Emperor, the damnation to his salvation

What do you have against poetry?

>>52800675
>>52800780
>>52800878
>>52800824

Little bit of all these.

Doom guy isn't particularly dangerous if you just avoid him: when he was originally thrown into HELL the demons for a time were content to come after him wave after wave in an attempt to kill the doom guy and get all that delicious glory, but eventually it became quite clear that the more demons he killed the more powerful he became.
To the point where he was starting to kill some seriously powerful titans of hell... So they just avoided him. Whenever doom guy came rolling into their shitty little cave-demon-shanty-towns all the demons would just get the fuck outta dodge.

So, yeah, I'm not 100% familiar with all the warhammer fluff, but I'm pretty confident that in the warhammer universe; doom guys threat to chaos would only really begin and end with the demons he'd actually be able to get to or the ones stupid enough to fight him.

Doom marine is physically tireless and seemingly unaging, appears to be totally resistant to mental fatigue or madness, is functionally incapable of dying or even running out of ammunition (not that he's really averse to using his bare hands) and in the past has killed demons so large that they're essentially a titan. One of the biggest ones. Whilst it was presumably focused entirely on him and likely had a lot of demonic support.
As for speed, Canon is probably a casual play through on a medium difficulty so expect him to have murdered his way through in less than 24 hours without pause. Which includes murdering his way through (a) hell.
Extrapolate from there as you will .

After wrecking the shit out of a couple daemon worlds or heavily corrupted hives, the Inquisition catches up and tricks him into being sealed somewhere back in suspended animation. As powerful as he is, Doomslayer has a history of falling to shit like this.

Then they'll release him again whenever they need to fuck something up in a corrupted world somewhere, like some non-doped all-natural Eversor.

>>52801082

Not that guy, man, but that wasn't poetry. It's not even really ballance.

>>52801041
Nah, mate.

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>>52800621
Don't forget to sage

>>52801043
Nah, it's mostly along the lines of the Old Testament. It's very fitting for a primordial force such as Chaos.

>>52800621
>Nurgle
Huge exposed guts. Gets ripped and torn
>Tzeentch
Makes a hundred thousand plans, all of which fail to take into account that the Doom slayer doesn't give a shit about any of them
>Slaanesh
Gets pummelled for so long that they eventually get bored of the sensation and promptly cease to exist as a result
>Khorne
Tries to corrupt Doomguy, but realises too late that he's encountered a being more pissed off than he is

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>>52801041

>>52800936
>>52801228
No anon it's pretty dumb. Not least of which because it's incredibly human centric, and relies entirely on a real earth judeo Christian world view. Why should the first human murder be significant, at all? The Eldar were busy raping a good into existence at the time. One of Khornes major demons would later be born from ghengis fucking Khan who killed millions.

Cain/Abel is only significant if you believe in a benevolent creator diety who created a world on which violence and murder was wholly unnatural, a corruptive element born from humanities freedom of choice and disobedience of God gone wrong. Not to be maximum fedora, but within the context of the Warhammer 40k universe? This is factually and completely incorrect. There is no singular universal all powerful god, benevolent or otherwise. The nature of the universe is not one of structured order in which disorder and death is unnatural.

The author - who was of course, Mr daddy issues himself - completely missed the point and lost himself in his own Abaddon wank.

>>52801315
Problem is, 40k Chaos is pretty human-centric as it is. It's mostly humans that get into that shit, mostly humans that're favored by them, and three out of four Chaos Gods have explicitly been born out of humans. Why would a guy being born out of the first human murder be any different?

>>52801315
Probably because it echoed in the Warp for an eternity until it manifested and then traveled back in time because that's how the Warp does things.

>>52801315
GW already gave Chaos hamfisted judo Christian bullshit when they inserted Be'lakor that's basically Lucifer.

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>>52801355
>>52801347
>>52801385
A single death is insignificant in the warp, especially in a warp that was relatively calm at this point, especially since humanity was not a psychically awakening race at the time.

Nothing about Cain's murder of Abel would not fall under the purview of one of the already long existent chaos gods, except for Slaanesh who would not be born until millenia later.

>>52801347
>three out of four Chaos Gods have explicitly been born out of humans

No they haven't? Khorne, Nurgle, and Tzeentch existed long before humans. Human signifigance is a relatively RECENT phenominon, it's one of the reason it asshurts the eldar so badly. We were literally banging rocks against rocks while they were fighting cataclysmic intergalactic wars against stargods. Humanity was the scum on the universe foot at the time. They didn't start to really 'awaken' pyschically until the age of strife, one of the reasons the Emperor revealed himself was the situation was becoming untenable and he had to act NOW to save Humans from being devoured.

Still, we can re-write this. We can even include the Judeo-Christian bullshit. We can make it all make sense. You want your primate murder? sure, fine. Drach'nyen can be the antithesis of the Emperor, born from Cain's murder of Abel. Please allow me to explain how.

>>52801490
>Khorne, Nurgle, and Tzeentch existed long before humans

They were born out of mongol invasion, plague, and renaissance, as I recall it. I don't think it was ever explicitly retconned away.

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>>52801499
False, DOOMBREED was borne out of the Mongol Invasion. Khorne was 'young' but already existed, and sought him out.

>>52801490
>>52801490
First, we must accept that everything we 'know' about the Emperors origins are likely null and void. The old 'shaman gestalt' idea, as it existed, probably is no longer applicable. This is important because this headcanon insinuates something about said unknown origins.

Now, second, we have to look at the myth of Cain and Abel. What is it about? The favor of 'God', and submission before him. Cain is a farmer, and offers God his crops. Abel is a shepherd, and offers god his meat. God likes meat more, because fuck vegetarians I guess.

>"Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. 3 In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the Lord. 4 And Abel also brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The Lord looked with favor on Abel and his offering, 5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.

>6 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”"

The language is a bit tangled up here like it usually is in scripture, but the lesson is supposed to be about submission. The insinuation is that God already KNOWS the defiance in Cain's heart, and is warning him against it. God is God, it likes what it likes, who are you to question God? The meat is better because I SAID so, now stop being a little bitch.

This is Cain's first 'sin', he questions God. A sin sprung directly from the fruit of knowledge, which gave humanity that very ability. Adam and Eve were the first humans to disobey God, thinking they knew better. Cain follows in their footsteps.

>>52800621
Is BFG Division playing in the background. Because if so, all of chaos is fucked. Thats coming from a chaos player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw

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>>52801550
>8 Now Cain said to his brother Abel, “Let’s go out to the field.”[d] While they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.

>9 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is your brother Abel?”

>“I don’t know,” he replied. “Am I my brother’s keeper?”

>10 The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.”

>13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

>15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so[e]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,[f] east of Eden.

Now Cain tricks his brother and murders him. We don't know why. It's always assumed and interpreted to be jealousy, but it never outright explains.

God immediately knows what happened, asks Cain about it (who plays dumb), and God curses Cain. He curses Cain to forever walk the earth, unable to die, and unable to return to his life as a farmer.

Cain becomes an immortal wanderer, and according to Apocrypha, immediately goes off and bangs a demoness to sire monsters and shit. In the Canon, he founds a city, which becomes the origin of all human civilization.

An undying wanderer, cursed by the Divine, who raises up civilization and breeds monsters.

>>52801115
You forget Khorne and Khornish demons who whole shebang is that they try to fight the big fight. That's where doomguy starts to become a trouble. When he slay a daemon prince of Khorne or someshit and khorne takes issues with him. Then he'll throw demons at him, powerful ones, before finally sending his own avatar or pulling him in the warp and fighting him 'in person'. Doomguy would end up sitting on the skull throne.

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>>52801595
You've probably already figured out what tired trope i'm heading towards with this but i'm going to pretend it's a dramatic reveal anyway.

Drach'nyen isn't BORNE of mankind's first murder. It IS mankind's first murder. Powerful in the extreme, able to defy the Gods. Just like it's brother.

The Emperor is Cain. For whatever reason - whether to gain himself power, or because Abel wanted to serve the Gods where the Emperor wanted to defy them, the Emperor 'killed' his only equal, his brother, and cast it's spirit into the Warp.

That's why Drach'nyen is so powerful, that's why it has a vendetta against the Emperor and all human civilization, that's why it's inextricably connected to the Emperor and all of humanity itself.

There was not one potential God Emperor of Mankind, there were two. And one seized that potential at the cost of the other.

At least that's how i'd write it. But I didn't, and That-Guy-Whose-Name-Escapes-Me but he loves to Wank Abaddon and Aaron Dembski-Bowden, author of Master of Mankind, are self indulgent hacks, so we got what we got instead.

>>52800621
>Khorne
Royally. By the time he gets to something that would present a challenge (a la Greater Daemon/Daemon Prince) he'd already have powered up beyond them.
>Tzeentch
Totally. If Tzeentch tried to mess with/get into Doomguy's head, all he'd be able to get out of it is AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

>Nurgle
Thoroughly. Regeneration simply postpones the inevitable and gives him more to rip and tear.

>Slaanesh
Sideways. You cannot seduce something made of rage. It will not be a good pain.

>>52801652
No one cares about your shitty fanfiction

>>52801652
PS: Abaddon doesn't have the real Drach'nyen, Cipher (who is in fact the long lost Custodes) does, and when he plunges the sword on his back into the Emperors chest finally the brothers will finally be reunited and become a true Warp God of humanity and anti-chaos, a fedora paradox of fuck you /headcanon

>>52801684
My shitty fanfiction is still better than master of mankind

>>52801695
Getting molten lead poured in the eyeballs is better than Master of Mankind, but that doesn't make getting acid in them feel any better.

>>52801732
The acis will probably get rid of the gold though,gold is very soft. I'm not sure if that means it dissolves easily someone should Google that. But it can't hurt more since you already have gold in your eyes. What we really need to look into is whose pouring all this gold into people's faces. I suspect the Parthians

>>52801652
That idea is more interesting than the shaman crap.

>>52801490
Chaos has minor gods outside the big four. Their presence is not required for Chaos or other malign Warp gods to be a thing.

>>52801652
It would explain why Emperor wanted to kill all religion: mental hang-ups from youth when God thoroughly and unfairly put him down, festered and grown over tens of millennia.

>>52801005
> What Are Inquisitors?

Look at all that headcanon and ignorance over Drach'nyen.

I will keep it short because I am planning on making a mega-post about the rectons of Chaos in the general thread or its own thread.

A) Not really a retcon but time has no meaning in the Warp.

-Drach'nyen birth part says that in the Warp there is no before or after. There is only now. Eternally now. Drach'nyen influenced and drank from the twisted darkness of mankind that itself inspired in mankind in the first place. It's a paradox and part of the reason why it was so powerful. The Echo of the First Murder is all the EVIL of mankind in a single entity.
-The Chaos Gods always existed the Warp. They were not born of humanity. They do not require humanity. They are immortal and eternal. In fact, the time of the Necrontyr and Old Ones, Chaos Daemon invasion was a big provlem that made the Necrons and Old Ones construct World Cages to imprison the Chaos Daemons. Be'lakor has memories of those times.

b) The Emperor didn't have a mega destiny that was given to him before he was even born. He choose his own purpose. He was just a kid born as a perpetual with psychic powers. Realised that humanity needed control after he slowly murdered his uncle because he murdered his dad. Without that event, the Emperor would have been one of the many Perpetuals that just hung around human history and melded in the background

C) The Warp was never calm

The Warp was a daemon infested hellhole before the War of Heaven even started. The Warp seemed calm only because of the Necron Pylons and the fact that humans and other races can only look at the surface area of the Warp which was calmed by the Pylons. Within the depths of the Warp where no psyker can see through, it was total anarchy and CHAOS. The Chaos Gods hid there bidding their time until their champions invited them back into the galaxy and started destroying the Pylons that kept them out for too long.

That's all for now. Get updated , you jerks.

>>52802537
ADB was a mistake

>>52801115
>>52800780
>>52800878
But if that is true having so much more deamons around wouldn't Doomguy just automatically make that much stronger and and stronger?

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>>52800698
The bigger question is

Doom slayer vs Sly Marbo

>>52801652
That's actually pretty good. Better than most of the Black Library stuff. Certainly better than the "BY YOUR POWERS COMBINED I AM CAPTAIN PLANETFALL!" origin story.

>>52801861
Gold should not dissolve. It is chemically almost totally inert.

>>52803314
Sly Marbo is one of Doomguy's silent expressions of rage that gained sentience and manifested itself in the materium.

>>52803454
Aqua regia can dissolve it.

>>52802584
Black Library being in charge of the big canon segments was a mistake. BL has always been better at telling smaller and more personal stories.

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>>52803638
>Sly Marbo is one of Doomguy's silent expressions of rage
>silent expressions of rage
>Sly Marbo
>silent

>>52804587
Even Doomguy's silence will be incredibly loud when forced out of mortal lungs.

>>52805066
>warp susceptible
i'd love to hear you explain this one.

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>>52805066
>Warp susceptible

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>Doomguy wank
>Cuck'nyen wank
This thread was a mistake.

>>52805066
>He's warp susceptible and would quickly fall due to his hate.
Except he isn't? The games directly describe him as being incorruptible since his only desire is to kill all of demon kind and his only emotion is hatred against anything related to hell. Killing demons is his literal only purpose in life and nothing else, you can't corrupt that kind of mindset.

>>52805066
>He's warp susceptible and would quickly fall due to his hate.
But he is the embodiment of the Emperor's hate against chaos, every amount of chaos energy he takes into himself strengthens the Emperor.

>>52802584
Literally this.

>>52804692
lol no. He resists possession and he was so powerful that the demons had to keep him asleep from stopping him from destroying Hell because killing him only pissed him off further.

Didn't we just fucking have this thread?

>>52805066
Wow I guess you are one of THOSE people that seriously think that as soon as you feel any emotion you immediately fall to Chaos. That is not how chaos works.

>>52805489
I thought he was angry because they killed his pet bunny.

>>52804189
It's one thing to fuck up things you can safely ignore, like the Primarchs, but allowing the unholy spawn of Matt Ward and Cruddace to dictate shit about chaos, abaddon and the emperor is simply madness.

>>52805635
Yea, i still don't understand what the fuck they were thinking allowing that to happen.

>>52805666
I suspect it was an overreaction to the failbaddon jokes.
They don't seem to grasp that turning him into an obnoxious SI faggot doesn't help, and that his personal powerlevel was never what made him feared.

>>52805550
No that was Doomguy, we are talking about The Doom Slayer.

>>52800621
He can kill as many demons as he likes, but he's still one man limited by time and space like everyone else, so Chaos won't be all that affected.

>>52800621
He is gonna destroy Chaos and THEN he's gonna murder the Imperium too for being a bunch of useless fucks. It's gonna be great. About goddamn time.

>>52801652

>>52805966
Same guy.

>>52800621
Here's the better question, what would the Imperium think of him

>>52806603
Honestly, if he were to die, he'd likely be resurrected by the Emperor and become a Living Saint, wings and all.

>>52806672
He has died before. It doesn't stop him. He just claws his way out of Hell while tearing it a new asshole.

>>52806727
Isn't the Warp Hell, technically? Has anyone come back from it aside from Greater Deamons and Living Saints (who are basically Emprah deamons)?

>>52806807
I figure that the Doomslayer is like a perpetual or something.

>>52801606
>When he slay a daemon prince of Khorne or someshit and khorne takes issues with him. Then he'll throw demons at him, powerful ones, before finally sending his own avatar or pulling him in the warp and fighting him 'in person'. Doomguy would end up sitting on the skull throne.

The only problem I potentially see with this is doom guy hatred is "purer" in the sense that it literally begins with demons and will end when all the demons are dead; he was sealed away inside hell for decades (possible longer by in-game time?) and he remained committed and unfaltering in his commitment to destroying all of the demons that were within arms reach.

He's only genocidally enraged when it comes to demons and as far as I know (by all means correct me if I'm wrong); he isn't interested in fighting any other beings unless they're associating/helping demons or it's self defense.

I think it'd be more likely that he'd either ignore or desecrate the skull throne before moving on to fight more demons.

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>>52800621

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Making Doomguy as the chapter master of the Doom Slayers, gonna replace the bolt pistol with a Kromlech double barrel and put a chainsword on his belt
Does anyone have any recommendations for Doomguy legs, he looks a little short and unarmored with these ones

>>52800621
>Doom Slayer
Im triggered

>>52801228
It reads like it was thought up by a 14 year old edgelord.

Doomguy/Doom Marine
Is effectively immortal. A champion in Hell (the Warp) killing demons so hard they flee from him.

Most detractors will say he will just become corrupted & that could possibly be true, even though he has immense willpower & holy hatred. But even if he was able to be corrupted he will still be able to resist because of his Doom Armor. It absorbs the demonic taint. Doomguy is corruption & insanity free. The Doom Armor would change the balance of power in 40k. The Warp literally is the bodies of the Chaos God's & demons are just small bits of thier power, his Doom Armor can actually steal the Chaos Gods' power a chunk at a time. He can kill all the demons & bring peace to the Warp, absorbing all their power into his armor.

>>52800631
Underrated post

>>52800951
Runes aside, Doomguy doesn't magically improve the potency of the guns he uses. We can at the very least assume a random soldier with a contemporary shotgun or assault rifle could stand on their own in a fight with an Imp, and might even be able to defeat a Pinky or a Cacodemon.

In WH40k, the only daemons that a Guardsman could conceivably make any meaningful progress against are Nurglings.

>>52801005
>Because it's a sword now

Man that's the most cop out answer.
Story tiem?

The real question is, could he successfully fight the Ork bosses that come his way for a 1 on 1? Will we end up 0 with a Yarrick situation where they find something they're actually SCARED to fight?

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Anyone who's made any decent progress in D44M knows that Doomslayer is somewhat slow, isn't very durable, and definitely has troubles with more than twelve enemies at once, even in a small arena filled with opportunities to circle around and flank them. Stuck in the middle of an open space with a few squads of Bloodthirsters or Daemonettes, he'd be run down and torn apart eventually.

A better question would be "how long would Sam Stone last against an Ork Waaagh!, and how would the Waaagh's Warboss react?"

>>52800936
But anon, Drach'nyen vs the Emperor wasn't a game of powerlevels. It was a game of rock, paper, scissors.

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>>52803314
>>52803638
>>52804587

Well if you were years of silent, probably somewhat repressed (Since Doomguy maintains a constant Level of operational 'calm'. He's angry but he isn't pure spaztastic, uncontrollable table flip levels of unpredictable autistic rage.) expression of rage made manifest.
I'm sure you would be loud as fuck too.

Also does that Imply that the Doomguy/Slayer not only existed with in 40K's prehistory. But left such a powerful impression on the warp his emotions are still being made manifest 380000nd-ish years later?
Shit dude. That's an achievement.

>>52813853
The fuck are you talking about SLOW. He can run 90 MPH easy while loaded down with a fuckton of guns.

>>52813853
A full retard Ork Warband vs a Full retard Mental horde.

I'm pretty such the noise such an act would produce would leave even the Noise Marines feeling jealous.

>>52813987
Have you played D44M? I don't think you have.

>>52814059
It's rather obvious you haven't, considering how you've convinced yourself that Doom Slayer can somehow run at 90 MPH when playing anything in D44M shows that to be completely untrue.

>>52814110
Great, it's good to be reminded that Doom Slayer can tear monsters apart when they've been grievously injured. That doesn't change the fact that he's slow, relatively fragile, and is at a severe disadvantage when fighting large groups of any demons more dangerous than regular Imps.

>>52814110
Sorry I was talking about DoomGuy when I made the speed comment. It's true that DoomSlayer is slower

>>52814147
Never had that problem...

Maybe you need to git gud?

>>52814219
That's alway the problem with games with difficulty, which one is the canon one? Like DoW 2 and Spess Mehren

>>52806576
no, it isnt. Doomguy was a human born on earth in the 2100's-ish and fought his way through an invasion on mars. when he got home, Doom 2 happened because they invaded there and killed his bunny too.

Doom slayer is a Promethean figure from the ancient history of mars that got trapped in hell by hell's minions after killing LITERALLY MILLIONS of them over the course of millenia. he only got trapped because they couldn't kill him directly.
>two very different beings

>>52814290
usually game difficulty is cannon when its somewhere in the middle of available difficulties.
Halo's was heroic, doom's was hurt me plenty. usually between medium and hard, but not very hard.

>>52800621
>how fucked is chaos
nurgle slaanesh and tzeentch would be fucked by the new champion of khorne, doomguy

>>52814388
>implying that pussy khorne can handle Doomguy's rage

>>52814388
Honestly I think Malal is a better fit, given his desire to only kill demons.

I don't get why you guys have fun pretending doomguy is an invincible warmachine.
He's just fast and somewhat resilient (not even that much if you play nightmare which is canon).

What if DoomSlayer woke up in RIFTS?

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>>52816311
>nightmare which is canon
>nightmare
>canon

>>52800621
For fuck's sake people, Doomguy literally has ZERO DEFENSE against psychic powers. There is absolutely nothing stopping the psychic variety of daemons from simply popping one of their numerous "do not pass go, do not collect money, go straight to death" powers that are unblockable and unstoppable unless you are a psyker.

You cannot simply punch everything to death in 40k. Try to actually understand the fiction you are discussing and I don't know, read a book on it before you consistently make yourself look like idiots. Doomslayer only has a prayer against Khornenate daemons, and that's only if they play fair. Bloodthirsters are unlikely to.

In DOOM, Doomguy is incredibly special and powerful. In 40k Doomguy is nothing remarkable, he's downright ordinary.

>>52816471
On Daemons

>I moved too close to the wall and made a mark just like that when we took the corridor from the corssroads,' he said. The scrape mark of red armour on the wall of the corridor was almost like a smear of blood. 'It must be a coincidence'
>With a metallic screech, he dragged the forearm of his armour in a cross stroke over the red mark, adding a blue stripe to the marking on the wall
>it took them barely five minutes to return to the red and blue mark on the wall.

Daemons can manipulate space-time and fold it in upon itself to create loops.

>No, said Inquisitor Remigius. 'No not impossible. Highly improbable, but possible nonetheless. Daemons have abilities we can only guess at and we are deep within the realm of a powerful entity. We believe that they can create...They can create pockets in the immaterium. Places that exist outside our awareness that allow them to move unhindered, unseen, until they desire otherwise. Perhaps the sergeant had been pulled into such a trap.

Daemons create pocket dimensions, zap people into them, and murder them.

>Even as shells struck the creature, it vaporised, a flow of ethereal mist marked its passage as it tore between them, only to rematerialise at the back of the group where Remigius stood.

LOC's can turn intangible to ignore damage and just walk through people.

>With a toss of its head it discarded the disembodied leg and reared up onto its hindquarters, lashing out with its front legs. The wickedly sharp claws at the end of each massive paw gouged into Kayan's chest armour just above the midriff and cleaved through the ceramite. They pierced his rib-cage and shredded his internal organs.

Daemon claws ignore armor completely and act like power weapons.

>>52812331
That's perfect for 40k.

>>52814326
Nah. Doom is a multiverse and the Doomslayer crosses over the dimensions through Hell.

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>>52816471
>>52816554
Now it's a party

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>>52801115
>all the demons would just get the fuck outta dodge.
sometimes i wonder if the population of /tg/ is literal retarded niggers that just intentionally hemorrhage bullshit onto their keyboards all day long.

the demons in doom did not do the things you say they did. and doomguy would completely fucking shit on chaos

>>52816471
>>52816554
>being this offended by the idea that the Doomslayer would destroy Chaos

>>52818730
For some odd reason, there's always one guy who shows up and starts REEEEEing the moment Doomguy comes up.
It's frankly hilarious

>>52818816
Yeah. It's like they don't get it that the Doomguy is the fun embodiment of kicking ass and taking care of business. That's why he wins. Because we like him.

>>52816796
>sometimes i wonder if the population of /tg/ is literal retarded niggers that just intentionally hemorrhage bullshit onto their keyboards all day long
>doomguy would completely fucking shit on chaos
The irony in this post is impossible.

>>52818730
>guy is the first person to actually provide some evidence for his claims
>''lel u so mad''
>>52818926
The problem with fun meme characters is their fans tend to turn into autists and force them (Saitama being the best example). This thread is a good example of that.

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He would be a threat to the Imperium too because his presence will attract even more powerful daemons to the point the Imperium will start having trouble dealing with most of them. Doomguy will become a freelance demon slayer and the Imperium (even the Astartes) would literally beg him to be everywhere at once to end threats

I think you people are vastly underestimating what 40k can throw at him. DoomGuy is basically an eversor assassin without the time limit, he could do some damage sure but once mayor players like Kharn, Skulltaker or a Bloodthirster shows up it's game over.

>>52819386
Yeah, the power he'll gain from killing one of those would be insane, then there's no way any chaos demon would stand a chance after that.

>>52819386
Yeah, but he also doesn't stay dead. Upon death he is just remanifested in Hell and then make his way out of there. That's why in Doom 2016 they trap him in a sleep coffin. They just can't get him out of their hair.

>>52800865
So he'd be another kaldor draigo

>>52819386
Let it go, man. You can't fight memes with logic.

>>52800878
Eventually he'll kill enough Daemons to become a Chaos God.

The Daemons he kills don't go back to the Warp, so he literally inflicts actual losses on Chaos.

Basically Doomguy is Malal. He is the Doom of Chaos, he cannot be stopped, merely slowed.

>>52801082
In the same vein as hating sand.

>>52801652
Can someone cap these? Its pretty good.

Seriously fuck doom wank

I had to deal with this shit in Quake 3 fucking retarded

>>52801082
By that logic, He should be an unending fuck up that has a BL author unload all his daddy issues on him in order to wank off an Imperium character.

>>52800698
They're the same person, dummy

>>52819492
>40k
>logic

>>52800621
Not at all as he instantly dies from the "shitty crossover scrotal detonation effect".

>>52800631
The only real answer

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>>52819681
>I want to know how others FPS heroes would fare in 40K.
>With luck I just get one or two answers before they speak of Doomguy again.
Pic kinda related.

>>52819681
Cry me a river.

>>52819413
Except he wouldn't be able to kill any of those.

>>52819436
Doom 2016 is a reboot. He never actually died in there, he was sucked into hell first when it ate his planet and then with the portal on Mars. And in 40k there is no Hell, only the Warp where souls are left to the mercy of the Gods. If he died he would most likely be reborn as a Daemon of Khorne or infinitely respawn like that one Ork WAAAGH Khorne took a liking to.

>Imp
WS3 BS3 S3 T3 W1 I4 Sv 5++
Daemon, Deepstrike, Move through Cover, Fleet
Claws: S: User Ap5
Fireball: S3 Ap-
Charged Fireball: S5 Ap5

>Bloodletter
WS5 BS5 S4 T3 W1 I4 Sv 5++
Daemon, Furious Charge, Deepstrike, Hatred:Slaneesh
Hellblade: S: User Ap3

DOOM demons ain't got shit against 40k Daemons.

>>52819792
Doom slayer defeats EVERYONE, up to and including himself.

>>52800621
There is already basically the same bullshit character in WH40k. I don't remember his name but I think he is from grey knights. They both do the same job and they can't completely win against chaos, but they could be a big threat to demons.

>>52820631
>T3
>W1
Bloodletters are fucking garbage. Daemons would get dunked on.

>>52813902
Kinda curious,i can guess but still wanna know what you're going on about: exactly what do you mean by game of rock, paper scissors?

>>52800621
That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Doomslayer" bullshit that's going on in the /tg/ board right now. Chaos deserves much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine Fanfic from the Black Library for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been masturbating to it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with the authors edge.
Black library authors spend weeks working on a single book and ruin canon up to a million times to make the most shameless retcons known to mankind.
Chaos wank is thrice as sharp as Doomguy wank and thrice as obnoxious for that matter too. Anything Doomguy can kill, a chaos daemon can kill better. I'm pretty sure a Chaos book could easily Character assassinate a champion of chaos wearing terminator armour with a simple vertical retcon.
Ever wonder why Cruddace never bothered ruining Chaos? That's right, he was too scared to fight the disciplined Fanboys and their chaos wank of destruction. Even in The HH series Chaos Primarchs were turned into manchildren first because Chaos authors were feared and respected.
So what am I saying? Chaos is simply the best concept that the world has ever seen, and thus, needs to win everything ever.

>>52824062
>Emps can kill any daemon except End of Empires.
>End of Empires still gets hurt by Blanks.

>>52813853
>definitely has troubles with more than twelve enemies at once
Lol no. At least I didn't have any trouble. Just dodge, run, shoot, repeat

>>52814147
Git gud scrub

>>52801606
Sorry, but no. If Khorne himself enters the fray, Doomguy dies in one hit from Woebringer.

>>52800936
You forgot

>Gets turned into a Sword that's no stronger than any other Daemon Weapon.

>>52800621
We've already had this thread.

The orcs make him leader of an eternal waaagh into the warp because he's the meanest and greenest.

>>52826661
>getting hit
You failed to git gud enough to actually be doomguy in the game.

>>52800975

Only because of the specific rules for how daemons work that makes them poof out of existence and such. They take what, like two or three bolter shots to kill? Not impressive.

>>52818730
Why do you retards post on /tg/ yet you know absolutely nothing about the subject matter?

>>52800675
>implying that has to do with killing and not because the base was constructed as a literal maze
Unless there's some standard issue maze-solving brain implant that comes standard in all space marines, called the labyrinthine gland, that I'm not aware of. I wouldn't be surprised, though.

>>52828327
I like chaos.
That's why I hate seeing it reduced to some faggots wank rag

>>52831602
/tg/ generally don't know anything about anything.

>>52831699
The Blood Ravens have a gene seed flaw that gives them a perfect memory, IIRC.
It's why Angelos is particularly tetchy over Cyrene.

>>52800936
So if Drach'nyen is such a super uber mega powered invinvible shapeshifting unstoppable ultradaemon out to destroy the Imperium, how exactly did he manage to fail so completely at it? The Emperor lived for an unbelievably long time and then got done in by a combination of the Big Four and his own hubris (and isn't even completely dead yet). The Imperium, his empire, has managed to keep stumbling along for 10,000 years without its Emperor and may even see a resurgence thanks to the return of Guilliman.

This super bestest daemon of all time EVER doesn't seem to be particularly good at the one thing he apparently exists to do.

>>52800801
Git gud.

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>>52833444
>how exactly did he manage to fail so completely at it?

He didn't fail though.

At the exact moment of its birth, it was drawn through time where it touched the minds of all humans like I said. When it opened its newborn eyes it found itself in the Imperial Webway during the HH.

Then it stalked the Webway all the way to the Emperor, leaving him mountains of corpses. It confronted the Emperor and inflicted terrible damage on him but the Emperor managed to seal it within a Custodes before escaping the Webway and ordering the Custodes to flee far far away. Each step the possessed custodes takes, is another day humanity gets to live.

Now Drach'nyen has been found by Abaddon locked within the form of a sword, and all he has to do it take it to the Emperor.

tl;dr read the novels please I cannot handle wilful ignorance

>>52826672
The amount of Drach'nyen's power that get unleashed depends on the user.

Same logic goes to Archaon's Slayer of Kings. When Archaon drew upon the full power of his Sword, he went toe to toe with literal gods.

>>52833511
So despite being super amazing he's still a stat stick for no arms magee

>>52833640
You

see

>>52833601
And what's wrong with being the weapon of the Champion of the Four Powers if ultimately gets you where you want to be?

>inb4 1d4chan menes

>>52833668
But why does this immensely powerful daemon need some second-rate Legion captain who only got anywhere because all the true Supermen fucked each other up to carry his ultra-powerful ass to where he needs to be? Why can't he get there himself if he's so great, and why has it taken him near enough 10,000 years to get around to it finally?

>>52833769
because there was a genuine problem that Abaddon's shitty writing made him a saturday morning cartoon villain, so they needed to make him more of a threat.
However, the retards assigned to solving this didn't get that Abaddon's personal power was never why he was supposed to be a threat, and as such needed him to be a super speshul snowfwake rather than simply solving the Black Crusade issue.

>>52833769
Your hatred of Abaddon is misplaced. Abaddon is the greatest champion of Chaos and was never second rate of anything. Traitor Primarchs are inferior to him in the Eyes of the Chaos Gods. So please take it elsewhere. Your wilful ignorance is enough as it is.

As for Drach, he was a prisoner in the Tower of Silence until Abaddon found him. Then a pact was struck between the two. Drach'nyen will be Abaddon's most potent weapon and Abaddon will take Drach'nyen to Terra. The alternative was Drach'nyen languishing another 10K years in imprisonment within the tower. No matter how powerful a daemon is, it cannot broke pacts that are made.

Also aside all your bellyaching, you got to remember that the Emperor fled from Drach'nyen like a little bitch.

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>>52833833
> super speshul snowfwake rather than simply solving the Black Crusade issue.

There was never a Black Crusade issue. The issue is that there some in the fanbase that refuse to read the lore because like being ignorant and take memes as facts.

Take this cunt as an example (picture related). This is your typical Imperial fanboy. Notice how he got EVERYTHING about Fall of Cadia wrong.

There is one solution to get rid of these kind of people. We must remove the Imperium as a faction. I am sorry but if it attracts these kinds of people then we have no choice.

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>>52833895
>There was never a Black Crusade issue
This doesn't help your case, Carnac.
It just means the Abaddon semen ADB shoved down your throat and that you proceed to regurgitate is even more obnoxious

>>52833918
See? No arguments. Just ad homs.

Like I said we have to remove the Imperium as a faction. It's the only way.

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>>52833946
I don't need to argue, because I know it happened.
I also know it's pointless to get angry about, no matter how shit the writing is, because it's going to be retconned in a few years anyway.
All I can do is bask in your fanboyism to make that payoff even more funny than it's going to be anyway.

>>52833980
See? Drivel and no evidence plus more ad homs. Imperialfags positions are weak.

>>52800621
He'd be the human equivalent of that Daemon-Killa Ork Warboss. He'd kill and kill until he inevitably dies and then Khorne'll just bring him back to life to fight again. At least that's how I see it.

>>52834063
If Khorne finds somebody worthy, he kidnaps them to his realm where they fight endlessly against his daemons and go through his challenges.

To this kidnapped warrior there is two ways to escape Khorne's grasp. Pass the tests and earn daemonhood or die violently.

Either way, Khorne will be pleased. So remember, if you are skilled warrior, beware of Khornate warriornappers

>>52801652
It fits well with the Emperor's insufferable arrogance, too. His foremost vice is pride, after all, which fits well with the Cain & Abel story.

Though I do feel compelled to point out that the general consensus is that Cain got shat on because Abel offered the "best," whereas Cain apparently did not. One of the recurring themes of the Bible is that a person will commit a seemingly minor action, but it's actually indicative of a deeper sin, which in Cain's case, as you noted, is defiance against God. They think they can hide it, and then they get pissy when God calls them out on it because he's God, did you really think you could keep that secret?

>>52834101
Pretty much

>>52816471
>no psychic defense
>slaughters volumes of possessed soldiers without so much as seeing a normal one, and is not possessed himself
Pick one and only one.

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>>52834106
Hold up. Why did you and the other guy agree that there is no God In 40K.

Olly Pius is an ancient immortal dude who fought in every war in human history. He knows about existence of Chaos and travelled the Warp. He knows the Emperor personally and hates the golden fgt. He and Alicia (a fellow Immortal) witnessed the Great Flood.

Despite all of this, despite all he had seen, Olly believes in Jebus. He is a Christian.

This proves that God exists in 40K.

>>52834163
...I didn't say that. I was just noting that I liked his "Cain is the Emperor" theory. Whether God is in the 40k setting is beside the point, though that being the case would certainly confirm that the Emperor is literally the most arrogant douchenozzle the universe has ever witnessed.

>>52834063
>>52834101
>Literally the plot of Quake 3/Champions.

The Emperor is really starting to seem more like the Antichrist. The asshole that everyone worships that will lead people to false salvation.

>>52834013
See? No actual substance in these replies.

As another anon, your end of the debate is oddly even worse.

>>52835819
It's because self-hating cucks with daddy issues, much like the ones in this thread, have been allowed to write him.

>>52814059

you must be fucking dumb because marty and id stated already that 2016Doomslayer is classic Doomguy

and the Timeline of doom goes by

>Doom 3
>DoomRPG
>Classic Doom
>Doom II
>TNT
>Plutonia
>Doom64
>2016

Doom 3 being the 1st Interaction that he had against Demons, and 64 the Time where sealed the portal between his Dimension and Hell

>>52800801
Spotted the 40cuck

>>52837009
>Doom now has an autistic canon

What a time to be alive.

>>52837009
Where does the Doom comic fit in the official canon.

Not at all, considering demons are shit tier compared to daemons.

Doomguy gets eviscerated by daemons ignoring the laws of reality or by a CSM vastly faster, stronger, and more skilled than him.

He could shit on traitor guard though.

>>52838270
Sometime in the middle of episode 2 of Classic Doom.

>>52835866
Moron, he gave me thing to work with but bitching and aed homs. No evidence. No argument. Nothing. You a fgt for standing up for this. Of course, you an Imperoalfag.

What kind of debate this is when one party says I don't have to proof anything just because!. What morons you both are.

>>52837009
What about Quake 3?

>>52839921
Different anon, you gave nothing. I prefer Necrons myself and I see that you'rejust spewing empty rhetorics. You've given even less than the other guy.

>>52840522
Follow the reply chain and you will notice I and anothe anon were talking about Drach'nyen and discussing its facts.

Then came anon throwing ad homs and crap. When asked to support his argument he refused so he indeed gave nothing when he was challenged. And you indeed a moron to defend him instead of asking him to defend his position,

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There is no single definitive answer, because it's a fucking hypotetical situation and you people will debate over this for years and never accomplish anything

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>>52840882
So?

>>52841252
The whole point of a debate is to broaden one's perceptions and open minds to new possibilities, but every single retard on the internet is so deeply entrenched in their own opinions that they can never ever think of anything new, change their minds, or come to conclusion their views might be flawed or even faulty. The reason anyone's debating is instead to smugly and violently tell everyone how right they are, while rejecting the notion that they might be wrong or that anyone else is anything but wrong.

So there's no point, and it just becomes a giant pissing contest that wastes everyone's time.

If he gets more powerful as he kills demons surely he'd get out of hand real fucking quick. If you threw him at a horde of Bloodthirsters and he fucks them up, then he's gonna be powerful enough to get a Daemon prince, and then a bloodthirster and then shit gets out of control. Maybe Tzeentch Magic or Nurgle's plagues could harm him? I think there's a fuck tonne of satanic magic in DOOM though so maybe we can rule out Tzeentch.

I'm a 40k fag, admittedly an admech one but Chaos Daemons is probably my 2nd favourite faction, so I'm hardly biased towards doomguy. If he's immortal like these guys say he is then nothing can stop the fucker, sure Tzeentch could send him off to some bullshit infinite labyrinth but if he's in combat the fucker sounds unstoppable.

I'm pretty sure he'd beat the shit out of a lot of stuff but as it's 40k he won't make a difference, kill a daemon and it just pops back out of the warp after a while, as much as I hate the bastard, look at Draigo, he's THE BEST anti-daemon fighter around and he's still totally irrelevant when endlessly fighting them in the warp.

>>52840586
I followed the reply chain. Besides spewing the names of fallacies you don't understand, you've done the equivalent of spew "UNRIVALED IS BEYOND WORLD LEVEL KEKACOCK WEW" like you're from /tv/ or /vg/.

The important part is that Doom's rule of cool is stronger than 40k's rule of cool and therefore the Doomslayer.

>>52842978
Oh my god. Don't mention Melvin. He's almost worse than Carnac.

>>52840586
An insult isn't an ad hominem, Carnac.
I know this has been explained to you multiple times, but unlike most things that have been explained to you multiple times, you don't have anything to cherry pick against it as an excuse not to grasp it.

>>52840127
If the rumors about Doomguy in Quake Champions are true, just after DOOM 2016.