>This is it >The proudest moment of your life >You've

Gideon tribal is going to be a t1 deck for sure

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>>52677555

>Set is literally about white people coming to a plane of brown people and shitting on their traditions and way of life
>People will still accuse WotC of being SJW shills

>>52677664
if the gatewatch doesn't get their shit pushed in, ideally by the planes inhabitants, I'll be pretty fucking disappointed.
also Gideon has long since morphed into some pseudo unidentified arab race.

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>>52677664
B-but there are black people

>>52677664
isn't that the meta definition?

these people had "internalized" the racist, badthink, that Bolas imposed on them and as such they need to be "awakened" to the real situation

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>>52677723

Who else is going to farm the cotton for the Plantation Watch?

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>>52677555
>Now I have to get a REAL job?

>>52677555
why the fuck does that cost 4 mana when it only names one card? This isnt even draft fodder its just bad.

>>52677555
Am I fucking crazy or is Wizards just reprinting the exact same cards with slightly different mana costs and effects

I swear there's a white 'opponents can't cast spells of the chosen name' card in every set

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>>52677720

Gideon is Greek, and Greeks are white!

>>52677745
its so you can't hit either gideon with it

meddling mage is apparently too good for standard

>>52677723
>>52677736
>yfw this time they akully wuz kangz

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>>52677745
It's Nevermore with pseudo-Runed Halo stapled on. Why the fuck do you think it would cost less? I mean, it'd be good at 3, but it might be too strong at that point.

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>>52677756
>Am I fucking crazy or is Wizards just reprinting the exact same cards with slightly different mana costs and effects

Limited design space, anon.

There are only so many variations. it's why RoboRosewater works.

All of this has happened before, and will happen again, with a moderate increase in power each time to sell sets.

>>52677962
>with a moderate increase in power

laughingdevelopement.mtg

>>52677945
Nevermore is not especially good, neither is runed halo.

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>>52678028
You don't want to know what an immoderate increase in power looks like.

>>52678041
Whoosh.

>>52677962
>moderate increase in power each time to sell sets.
>literally cant even have elvish mystic in standard because it's 'format warping'
The fuck are you talking about nigga. We were excited when they reprinted SHOCK last set.

>>52677555
>Hey assholes your way of life is stupid and we're here to fuck everything up
Is WotC really doing the same story two blocks in a row

>>52677799
But he's also african and 30-50.
At the same time. It just works.

>>52678144
It IS format warping.
When they've taken out the good stuff from all the other colors, especially at low mana costs, the one mana mana dork reigns supreme and becomes the Correct Choice.
Wait, fix the problem by giving the other colors good stuff at that cost?
Don't be silly, just drop the mana dork.

>>52678364
it also seems they're pushing a "strong independent women who are minorities are the heart of the hardline resistance" angle too.
And at least with robot india they made things feel fresh and interesting in how it looks.
I'll say the architecture in this block is fantastic, but seeing straight up real world sarcophagus's and the like really shatters the mood.

>>52678039
>anon has never windmill-slammed runed halo naming borborygmos enraged against grishoalbrand.

>>52678364
It's actually kind of comical how inept the Jacestice League is

Like it's supposed to be this awe-inspiring stories about wizards going between worlds but instead it's a band of faggots that pop into a world, kick some stuff over, shit on the floor and poof to a new world to start all over again

Like really we JUST DID THIS on Kaladesh

>>52678705
it's actually justified though since this whole plane is just an elaborate planeswalker factory to produce minions for Bolas.

watch.
the second set he'll show up with his own 5 power rangers/ pillarmen to legitimize him to his people and as a show of strength to kick out the jactice league to the cheers of the people and remind them there are stakes.

>>52678756
>The Bolas Legion of Doom

It's so bad it has to happen

That and Gatewatch: Civil War

If they live a cushy life in their city where all of their enemies are kept out by a magic barrier, why would someone need to learn to brew poisons?

>>52678813
Because it's an ancient, honored position decreed as such by the God-Pharaoh.
And in case a sandwurm gets inside I guess. Or one of Rhonas's pets breaks out and he can't be assed to take care of it.
Maybe Bontu decided to offload the job of making the horrible poisons for his trial onto someone else so he could play more Zombie Kickball.
Or perhaps they're used by trialgoers against the various things they face in the trials

>>52678144
If we remove them we can push other things instead, like four-drops, anon. Everyone loved Siege Rhino, but we had to restrain ourselves and not make it as awesome as we wanted to die to Elvish Mystic being in Standard at the time. Now that we don't have to worry about turn 3 Rhinos anymore, since the cheapest mana dorks costs 2, we can finally print the cards that we always wanted Siege Rhino to be.

>>52678039
When they are good they win you the game

>>52678813
Because as long as there's two people left alive, someone's going to want someone dead.

All that said, the gatewatch should be being booted and attacked at every opportunity. The culture is built by and around Bolas. They question his leadership (their deity and protection) and insist he's evil despite clear evidence to the contrary with the barrier that protects them from a VERY shitty outside world that anyone foolish or brave enough to venture out can see while giving them a life of luxury and competition with a built in sense of duty and self improvement.
Aside from the death as the ultimate reward thing, top shelf society all around. Especially for magic lore.

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>>52677962

RoboRosewater knocks it out of the park sometimes.

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>>52679083

Other times...

>>52678458
There isn't just one Gideon. There's Gideon and his many stunt doubles. So many, that no one even knows which is the real Gideon.
It's why he looks different in every card.

>>52679106
I don't see the problem here, that's perfect design.

>>52678041

But no one uses that you cock

>>52678775
God no please

>>52679236
Whoosh.

>>52679161
>Gideon goes by the DOOMbot rule
but that would actually make one of the gatewatch characters kind of interesting

>>52678948
Bu-buh!!! He baaaad!!! Lik drumpfyyyy!!! Bolas mean bad!!!! HE MEAN BAD TO VIBRANT POPO PEOPLE!!!! das mean gatewatch gun def him!!!

t. Lore writer

>>52678948
Honestly, Amonkhet sounds like the best plane to live in since M:tG got created.

Which means that, obviously, it's going to be entirely about farming people for a nefarious plan that's conveniently going online right as the Gatewatch arrives, so they can save the day and be heroes despite coming there for all the wrong reasons and having no ideas about what they are doing.

M:tG should send their scriptwrites to Hollywood.

>>52679654

Are you ok anon? Do you need help?

>>52678756
>pillarmen

No anon, you need to wait for the aztec plane for that.

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>>52678948
Even death as a reward serves as a bit of population control for a society that doesn't seem likely to expand its territory.

My only hope is that during the Return to Tarkir event the Gatewatch are still overthrowing whatever government is native to the plane.
I'm pretty sure they'd be at their most popular if they decided to return the Khans/Shards and punch dragon lords.

>>52678705
>JUST DID THIS on Kaladesh
I'm still not even sure what's going to happen there. I mean the Consulate wasn't evil and didn't need to be overthrown, they just set some ground rules and the autists of the plane couldn't handle it and rebelled.

>>52683027
Actually fighting Bolas might be neat. The big problem I'm seeing is that the story is rehashed twice each time. BfZ and SOI were both fighting Eldrazi invasions and Kaladesh and Amonkhet are both fighting oppressive establishments.
They need to give us a bit more variety and maybe some more world building.

>>52683158
It could have been decent if they didnt portray the Aether Revolt as good vs bad. Hell, I wouldn't even have minded if they 100% ripped off MCU and did a Jacetice League Civil War. Have Gideon taking the side of the Consolate and Chandra the side of the rebels.

I'm also beginning to hate the Gatewatch because we never get a proper introduction to the Plane.
Like we never get to see what the plane is like, just what they're up to and the problem they inevitably discover.

Am I alone in this feeling?

>>52683242

THIS
H
I
S

I'm not even against the concept of the Gatewatch, but having all five of them around makes it near impossible to get a proper sense of a new plane's culture and world. They desperately need to cut it down to 2-3 members per set so we can have time to properly cover the native folk.

>>52683349
Even though I much prefer the new 2 sets per block, I feel like 3 sets would help the story out.
>Set 1: introduce the plane
>Set 2: Shit goes down on the plane
>Set 3: Gatewatch shows up to set things right
Then you'd have all the Gatewatch nonsense contained to the end so it might actually be enjoyable to watch them show up and kick ass.

>>52683236
I'm just thinking that any form of government the Rebels put together will either collapse under it's own uselessness or turn into the Consulate again.
Otherwise it's like putting the Izzet in charge and that's just awful.

>>52683563
3 blocks work with story telling 101 structure
>Presentation
>Plot
>Ending

>>52680261
He's just chandra's writer.

>>52679083
>>52679106
You know the picture means something right?
The more advanced the computer in the image box the more advanced neural network created the card. That why modern supercomputer cards could be real and the old timey ones are "what did I just read"

>>52683564
Don't think about the future, anon, actions of planeswalkers have no negativr consequences in Magic. Instead focus on all the totally cool and sweet things your favorite member of the gatewatch is doing THIS block!

>>52684112
The problem is wizards r&d is so shit they can't make a coherent 3 set block with the shallow garbage mechanics they've been shitting out so they altered the set pattern to hide their weakness

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>>52684330
Roborosewater frightens me sometimes.

>>52683349
Honestly this would help with the a lot of the smaller City Only planes like Kaladesh by digging deeper into the outer cities like Peema, Lanthu and so on.
Even showcase off some of the culture of the main city! Ghirapur is huge and we never got to see some of the neat areas like Freejam and Weldfast.

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>>52684862
You know the formatting is bad like most times. But land God's sound like a novel idea. I have no idea how you'd Balance it though

>>52677729
Bolas is also black though.

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>>52684902
>indestructible land gods with static effects and no mana ability
Unf

>>52685060
>take the uncounterable, hardest to interact kind of permanent and give it indestructible
Fucking madman

>>52684112
They couldn't even get that right with 3 sets per block

>>52684112
See, that would require R&D to be competent so that's not happening any time soon.

>>52684862
Oh yeah, there's nothing that could possibly go wrong with this and any of the muscle sliver variants.

>>52685246
>>take the uncounterable, hardest to interact kind of permanent
emblems

>>52685675
Emblems aren't permanents
>113.5. An emblem is neither a card nor a permanent. Emblem isn’t a card type.

>>52683349
There's a reason that even the capeshit that inspired this still gives folks their own movies.

>>52685675
Emblems aren't permanents, though.

Why would you play Standard after they got rid of core sets? No room for personalisation and everyone plays the same two or three decks.

Also is there a lamer planeswalker than Gideon?

>>52677799
>geeks
>white

>>52686376
WE WUZ GEEKS N SHIEEEET

>>52686400
Pay debt

>>52677664
>WoTC is just trolling people and making them think they are

Honestly I would love this but this kind of shit is par for the course with SJW's. They're so vainly obsessed with how intelligent and morally correct they are that they're incapable of recognizing when they've contradicted their own narrative.

>>52678039
Tell that to Zur and the two assholes I am playing with

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>>52677723
>black
>people
What did he mean by this?

>>52686368
Jace.
He's the only one that can be completely helpless against monsters with no brain; like here on Amonkhet with the zombies.
He also doesn't have a weapon t make up for this deficiency.

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Planeswalkers were a mistake

>>52688266
lore question.


How strong are the current Praetors compared to the old Praetors?

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Blue Lives Matter

>>52688293
No clue.


The Old Prateors were able to go toe to toe with old walkers, but they were created by Yawgmoth.

>>52678898
But you can still cast a 4 drop on turn 3 with a 2 cost mana dork.

???

>>52688342
Well they were also the products of something stronger than most old walkers. New praetors are definately weaker. The argument to be had is how many orders of magnitude weaker

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>>52688293
Considering Gix nearly killed Urza at the end of the Planeswalker book after being in Yawgmoth's Detention Sphere for Minions that Don't Minion Good for a few millennia, I'd say they're a bit stronger.

Damn I miss the old Phyrexian look.

>>52688692
Old Phyrexia had a look?

>>52688692
I miss Glorious Phyrexia too. New Phyrexia just doesn't compare even if it shifting in colors makes more sense for the Phyrexian philosophy.
And eventually they're going to go to Elspeth's homeworld, which is under the thumb of surviving Phyrexians. They haven't forgotten her backstory, so it's GOING to happen, and they're going to fuck it up by making them too much like New Phyrexia.

>>52688742
Not a unified one persay, but New Phyrexia just doesn't have that same charm. I'm not really sure how to put it, maybe it's just nostalgia.

>>52688810
I think New Phyrexia's problem when it comes to design is that it doesn't have that kind of "wretched" feeling that so many of the old phyrexian things gave off. Sure, Urabrask and Elesh are intimidating and cool looking, but they don't have the strange tubing and flesh of a plaguelord, or the confusing body structure of a negator. Old phyrexia looked really fucked up, at least in terms of physiology, and that was part of its charm.

>>52688771
They're not going to go to Elspeth's homeworld when they can just return to New Phyrexia.

Although having the Gatewatch have to crack through some Phyrexian border planes to get to the heart of it all would be sick.

Or just some old Phyrexians meeting new Phyrexians and showing them how it's done would be sweet

Huh I thought New Phyrexia looked pretty cool and I liked how there was a difference between each group.

>>52688872
That's the kind of thing I meant, actually.
Though sadly, knowing WotC, another possibility is they try to hit New Phyrexia, lose (but of course none of the annoying ones die, just someone like Ajani or someone else actually interesting) and flee, do some regular blocks as the Training Montage, then hit said plane to 'see how they've grown' and of course totally win because they're THE GATEWATCH.
They can have their superteam beat Phyrexia without having to lose New Phyrexia as villains, win/win as far as WotC is concerned!

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>>52688742
Old Phyrexians were metal-coming-out-flesh zombie cyborgs of a dozen different varieties, rather than the monsters-made-out-of-metal look of New Phyrexia, with one variety for each color.

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>>52689016
IDK I feel like New Phyrexia had a good mix going between creatures that were more fleshlike looking old style and creature that were more mirrodin-metal covered looking a lot more sleek

>>52677555
Is that motherfucker blocking a God's attack or something?

>>52689016
I think that both white and black New Phyrexia have that sort of look though.

>>52689143
Considering that White and Black are most aligned with Old Phyrexia in terms of colour identity that would make sense

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>>52688692
>tfw still no Gix card
>tfw Gix will never return and beat the shit out of the Gatewatch

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>>52689143
>>52689164
White Phyrexia's a bit too much about white porcelain plating and (occasionally) exposed sinew.

>>52688991

New Phyrexia being beaten by the Power of Friendship would be amazing for all of the anal pain it would cause Phyrexia fanboys.

>>52689252
Shattered angel is fucking terrifying in both appearance and in terms of just what the fuck it actually is.

>>52689109
Dude stood in front of Ulamog in BFZ and Ulamog shits on these gods

>>52689252
Right but an entire plane under the creative limits of Old Phyrexia >>52689016 would look very.... bland.

>>52689312
Is this the power of friendship?!

>>52689286
As a fan of Phyrexia, I want to see Elesh Norn specifically be defeated by the power of friendship just because fuck all the waifufags.
The rest of the plane is but a small price to pay to see them writhing in agony over their waifu.

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>>52689328
True enough. I personally prefer New Phyrexia, as someone who grew up with Old Phyrexia. The more stylized look for each color really works well for me.
>>52689290
How does the chrome-and-scalpels look of Blue Phyrexia make you feel?

>>52689178
>Gix is the only viable Old Phyrexian who could in theory still be alive
>Wizards has probably forgotten this

>>52689344
>Norn is killed by the gatewatch
>Jin-Gitaxias takes over and unleashes Phyrexian super science upon them

I want it.

>>52689364
>How does the chrome-and-scalpels look of Blue Phyrexia make you feel?

To be honest I like some of them. There's a few I don't care much for, but I think shit like Blighted Agent looks appropriate for some horror like Phyrexia.

>>52689368

There are actually a shit ton of Phyrexian planes that still exist from when Old Phyrexia was conquering shit left and right. Elspeth was born on one. Honestly an Old Phyrexia versus New Phyrexia match with Gatewatch caught in between might be cool.

>>52689409
Jin is honestly the best of the praetors.
He's Yawgmoth minus the NTR fetish seriously but still having the pithing and vivisection fetishes.
Well, and less disease-happy and less concerned with taking over things, too.

>>52689334
Gideon is OP as shit

>Ulamog
>Gearhulks
>the entire Aether Spire falling on him

White is one HELL of a drug

>>52689479

I really like how he beat the gear hulk by just going invincible and hopping into the moving gears.

>>52689466
I liked Urabrask.
His faction was pretty neat.

>>52689523
This guy sounds like he gets shit done.

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Here's a piece of trivia:
In the Scars of Mirrodin block, there were only five black creatures with the Mirran watermark. None of them were in the New Phyrexia set.

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I can't believe people want to go to this plane.
I mean from a design stand point it doesn't look very interesting a place. Just put some big rings in the background, that will make it look neat. There's no culture to it, nothing to make it unique enough to visit.

Plus it would just be a rehash of Kaladesh.
Got a corrupt government agency, rebels, and one planeswalker will have an emotional reunion with his parents.

>>52684125
depressingly accurate
>Hey mom, nice to see you how are you doing?
>MUH GUBBMENT
>Yeah that seems about right
>[bombs externally]

>>52689625
And two of them are retcons!
Vampires shouldn't exist on Mirrodin. The last one kinda died in the previous block.
And really, the Nim were one of the bigger hints towards Phyrexia existing in the cards the first time around anyways.

>>52689700
Look maybe if we can get wizards to burn themselves out on the muh revolution plot they'll start doing something interesting again.

>>52689700
Heck it even shares the same oppressive government colors U/W! Rebels will undoubtedly be Red aligned. On both planes they're fighting over a resource (possibly the same one?) and Vryn looks like it would be technologically advanced enough to have a lot of artifacts.

They're the same.

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>>52689725
That was back when design and development didn't give a fuck about creative, made whatever they felt like and demanded that creative find a way to justify it.

More trivia, Red Phyrexia has no creatures outside of the New Phyrexia set.

>>52689700
Now, now, it's not the same.
It's a corrupt government AND corrupt rebels! TOOOOOOTALLY different!

>>52689800
The corrupt government is the Arbiters.
Everyone else is just pawns.

>>52683564
The Consulate has remained in power, anon. The rebel leaders have just been granted positions of power within its hierarchy

>>52689896
the plane's going to have destroyed itself within the next few months due to their massive incompetence or go full EVE Online ancap

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And personally, my favorite Phyrexians are the green ones.

>>52689826
the arbiters do not govern, though.

>>52689941
>Its venom drips with Phyrexia's hate.
But that's wrong. Phyrexia, at its core, is about love. A desire so strong to embrace all others withinitself, to touch all and make them as perfect as can be, to elevate them to levels never thought possible, to cherish and hold them, even break down and share them could only ever be considered love.

>>52686368
Chandra

Actually Gideon somehow manages to be the second best member of the Gatewatch if you don't count Ajani as a full member

>>52690060
But Phyrexia does hate. It hates the divisive nature of skin, the horrid responsibility of thought and the crushing loneliness of freedom.

>>52690060
Nah, phyrexians are a buncha dicks

even new-white phyrexians

>>52690060
And that's why, when the Gatewatch moves in to try to beat them with friendship, they're not going to succeed the first time, because as everyone knows, love triumphs over friendship.
>>52690110
That is not hate! That is merely the joyous removal of the things that impede true love!

>>52690093
>Gideon
>good

Oh look I spotted the closeted homo.

>>52690141
Is it not right to hate that which impedes love?

>>52690060
>>52680238
>Makes being eaten by a mechanical based Thing sound comfy
>Makes living in a Brave New World distopian fascist death city sound pleasant
I need to stop coming to /tg/

>>52690184
This is /tg/.
We're horrible at Magic, but we can rephrase anything to sound wonderful and nice. Or horrible and monstrous.

>>52689700
I wanted to see this plane in action before we got Kaladesh. Now I don't want them in arm's reach of it.

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>>52685246
anon...

>>52690416
That's not a God with a static, nonmana ability.
It's just a Darksteel Citadel that traded in its artifactness for a shitty mana filter ability.
Still useful for 5c EDH when you have 7 lands and none of them make green goddamnit

Why is Chandra so gay?

>>52690612
because they bought into the diversibux meme way too late

>>52690612

She's not. She wants to be the filling in a Naya Sandwich.

>>52690450
G/X Tron will like this too, I think

>>52690416

God fucking dammit the new Bolas is going to be 5 colors.

>>52689016
>Phyrexian Soulgorger
Did they forget to write "Trample" on it or something?

>>52691167
That would be fucking sweet, a good antithesis to the colorless Eldrazi

>>52691119
For what though? I don't think this does anything particularly amazing for tron.

>>52677664
>Story is about white devils shitting on "not egyptian" kangz culture, literally SJW doctrine
>not SJW

Never go full retard, anon

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>>52677664
>>52691652
>The Amonkhet is actually about a diverse group of "white" "people" going to a pseudo-African land and tell them how to live.
There's some sort irony here I just can't tell by whom.

>>52677664
>Set is literally about white people coming to a plane of brown people and telling them they should be kangz and shiiiieeetttt.
>not sjw

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>>52689523

>>52678144
like>>52678559 said in a way elvish mystic is format warping with the new standard's power level, 3 4 drops are so much better then 1 2 drops that skipping to three mana in turn 2 is sadly actually op in standard.

>>52691167
Bruh, Bolas could already use magic of each color. He's just a master of three.

>>52689965
No they do something even worse; they advise.
They're sneak blue mages and prove me right when I say that all telepaths are evil monsters without a soul.

>>52690405
Why?
I legitimately can't see a reason to be interested in Vryn. No cool culture, boring designs and bland.

I wonder what Bolas' red plane will be.

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>>52690612
Because she's flaming.

>>52677555
I'm reading the third "story" now.
Fuck, I can't even begin to point at how shit it is.
> Chandra is using modern slang
> characters know what coffee and police are. Yes, fucking (((police))) in a fantasy setting
> unsubtle grrrl relationship bullshit
I know only hate. The fucking writer for this chapter deserves to be hanged.

>>52683000

>protein from the sea

>>52692856
People keep saying that the mtg stories and books were always bad, but after just having finished up the Odyssey block of books and starting on Kamegawa, they certainly arn't high brow literature, but they're nowhere near as bad as this middleschooler writing workshop schlock they've been feeding us lately.

I'm going to miss you Chainer, you where the realist nigga

>>52692944
Kamigawa had Toshi Umezawa, for which I am forever grateful.

It's not high art, and certain aspects do drag on, but it's good fun.

>>52692856
>police
Doesn't every society create those at one point?
Or are you mad that they aren't referred to whatever the Egyptian equivalent would be?

>>52692856
They know of police from Ravnica, one of the more modern planes in existence. They kinda lounged around there for a few months after Innistrad.
Ravnica seems to have invented coffee as well.

>>52678775
Chandra: I'm sorry Nissa, but Liliana is my friend
Nissa:....oh

>>52692978
I read the books when they first came out along with the sets, it's more of a revisit seeing as how I'd forgotten them.
I do remember Saviors ends in a rushed slapped together way with a DBZ fight though.

>>52692986
I thought the police were called Wojek or something?

>>52692979
>>52692986
> police in Ravnica
I think you mean "guards"
Because a police force is a very different thing.
The coffee thing I can sorta accept.

>>52686449

Ex. Steven Universe's hilariously unintentional anti-feminist currents.

>>52693336
Or how they drone on about Chechnya's gaycentration camps and always forget to mention it's a predominantly muslem country then proceed to campaign to allow more muslems from those areas into their home countries.

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>>52693336

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>>52677962
Fixed your image

>>52691576
It does make the Bringers way more playable in just about every deck that they could have any potential in. In any tron you could easily jam in a white or black bringer

>>52686376
Greeks are definitely white. My employer is Greek, and he burns quicker than I do - and I'm Anglo-Celtic.

>>52692986
I love Ravnica. It's a rare thing for me to give a flying crap about a Magic faction, but the Boros Legion did it for me. Them and the humans of Innistrad. Something about White and White/Red human factions makes me so happy.

>>52693892
>Malakar is in the tavern
>Won't shut up about how Wolfir are great and peaceful and not vicious werewolves any more
>Know better than to trust those canine cunts and the wispy forest hippy cults
>Sounding a lot like heresy
>Motion for the barkeep to grab the rope

>>52689941
I think Vorinclex and Thrun are the same person. It feels right

>>52677962
Roborosewater prints cards that read "all cards" with 2/0 stats and the jellyfish tribe for 6 mana.

>>52694111
Vorinclex was already around when Thrun was still up and alive.
He may have once been a troll, but he wasn't Thrun.
If any Praetor was at one point a former character, the most likely is Urabrask having once been Slobad, honestly.

>>52694217
DEEPEST

>>52692856
> Chandra is using modern slang
God, it's this argument again.

Go ahead, tell me what century Chandra is in. What should she speak like? Should the writers make everyone sound like they were written by Shakespeare? It's a fictional setting, there's absolutely nothing wrong with how Chandra talks and you're a moron if you think otherwise. She's a college girl talking like a college girl and I'm not sure what else you expect from her.

>>52694296
Maybe she should sound like her character was before the gatewatch, when she used words that made sense for the worlds she had been to There's been no world that she's been to that called anything police, no other character anywhere talks like she does and if she's the only one in the mulitverse that talked like that no one else should understand her except maybe Jace because he's been in her mind.

>>52694366
>There's been no world that she's been to that called anything police
Show me the dictionaries of Kaladesh, Ravnica, Zendikar, Regatha, Innistrad and Amonkhet.
>no other character anywhere talks like she does
That we have met. Stop projecting your limited experience of the setting on to the characters.
>if she's the only one in the mulitverse that talked like that no one else should understand her except maybe Jace because he's been in her mind.
But people do understand her, therefore there are other people in the Multiverse that talk like her. Judging from the fact that everyone from every plane seems to understand her, that sort of language probably sees widespread use.

Face it, there's nothing wrong with how Chandra speaks.

>>52694434
>there's nothing wrong wizards writing

>>52694434
That doesn't explain her gayness though. She has a mom and dad and should know homosexuality is immoral.

>>52694476
It's pandering.

>>52694434
>"UGH! What a dumb meathead" Chandra said rolling her eyes at the thought of Gideon.
>Liliana paced awkwardly about, arms crossed as she pondered how she could be in lesbians and also with the most perfect character ever.
>With a final grunt Chandra stood up and shook her hand clean having finished her street dealings as was customary for her people.
>"Great I can't wait to eat more of moms curry, but we better be careful and watch out for the popo."

>>52688252
>illusions are printed as a creature tyoe and are physically real and powerful
>jace's speciallty phantasm can kill a planeswalker in a few blows
>but somehow everything fucks him up and he cant do anything
I used to like jace before the gatewatch....

>>52694434
Amonkhet
>Mummies
Innistrad
>Cathars
Kaladesh
>Enforcers
Ravnica
>Wojek (or Nightguard)
Regatha
>Fuck knows
Zendikar
>No centralized guard force to speak of

Not that any of this matters because the core point the dude was making was "Chandra's modern speech patterns harm immersion."

>>52694434
We know the equivalent of police in Ravnica is Wojek, Innistrad has guards, Marshall's and Cathars, Kaladesh has consulate officers,
on Kephalai there are only guards no police, on Ragatha Chandra has been nowhere but Keral Keep and the city where the only law was the Order of Heliud who had no police, Kaldheim of which she was only in the wilderness hunting a shaman and Zendikar has no equivalent. I don't know enough about Amonkhet to say anything.

>>52694544
You're yet to point out what's wrong with speaking like that in a fictional setting.

She's a college-aged girl speaking like college-aged girls do.

What do you expect from her?
>THOU MUSTE VERILY WATCH OUTETH FOR THE TOWNE GARDE OR SUFFER THE MOST GREATLIEST OF CONSEQUENCES
Fuck off. If you want to read nonsensical trash written by dead white men, go and read it. But this is a character in a fictional setting talking the way characters in fictional settings do. Like ordinary people.

>>52694570
it gives him a weakness. And they keep breaking their own rules on what planeswalkers specialties are. Like the terrible intro pack Liliana doing -1/-1 counters.

also Sorin's still kind of ok at least.

>>52694580
Except they don't, because there's absolutely nothing to say that the word 'police' isn't in the vocabulary of any of those planes. It's a fictional setting. She could say literally anything and it shouldn't harm the immersion of the setting. If you think that it does, that's just an indicator of your autism.
>>52694581
Yes, and all of those things are police, which is what she was referring to. Police. Is that so hard to understand?

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>>52694630
>Please don't be disrespectful of the story. You might not care but others do.

>>52694603
>She's a college-aged girl speaking like college-aged girls do.
If you think that's how college-aged girls talk, I don't think you've ever met a college-aged girl.

>>52694630
>Y-you have autism!
You make a strong case. Did you really have to get so assblasted you made another thread, though? It's not a matter of calling the word police in-specific, it's that Chandra speaks like a modern-day teen when no one else, save for maybe Liliana, talks that way. I'll do him one better, though. It's not immersion-breaking, it's just grating.

>>52694668
Have you? You must think everyone in the world talks either like a 4chan poster or your parents, because those are clearly the only people you have regular interaction with.

>>52694674
If it's grating, that's a subjective thing that's merely evidence of your autism. It's a character talking in a way that fits the character in a fictional setting, where the character isn't required to speak in any specific fashion whatsoever. If that 'grates' on you, then you're clearly showing some symptoms of autism.

>>52694732
But the way the character speaks does not fit the setting, if it did there'd be no complaints.

>>52694705
I am literally in college right now anon, but thanks for showing up.

>>52694732
>No, you really have autism!
I guess I should be concerned since you made another thread to bitch about this, since you're clearly an expert.

>>52694766
There is no definition anywhere for what does and doesn't fit the setting, therefore your claim has no basis in reality.

Chandra's mannerisms and way of speaking fits the setting. The mere fact that one of the main characters speaks that way is an indicator that she does because if it didn't fit the setting, then the people who control what fits the setting and what does not wouldn't write her that way.

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>>52694296
>She's a college girl talking like a college girl
Is that what your market research is telling you these days, maro?

>>52686449
>>52693336
jesus christ nu/pol/ are you really this desperate for political validation from what are basically fantasy YA stories

>>52694819
>"They can't write her poorly because they're the writers."
That's some circular reasoning you have there.

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>>52692856
>characters know what coffee are
Hold up. Hold the fuck up.

When and where exactly do you think coffee was "invented" and why do you think it's so weird for Jace to know about it when that's practically all he drank on Ravinica?

>>52694851
Making her speak in a certain fashion is not writing poorly because they can literally state that her speech is entirely normal within the setting. The fact that no one is reacting adversely to how she speaks is a sign that how she talks is totally normal in the MtG multiverse, on every plane.

You do not know the setting better than the writers who have absolute control over it. If they say that something fits or doesn't not fit, you have no right to object.

>>52694851
I think the anon's argument has less to do with "writing poorly" and more with what kind of language is appropriate for the entirely arbitrary time and space that is the setting. The characters can literally talk however they want because there's no historical accuracy to contradict, there's no "proper" way for them to talk.

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>there are people unironically defending the state of Magic's storytelling post-Lorwyn

Could a kind anon please shop King Crimson from Vento Aureo into new Gideon's art?

>>52689523
Hey if it works it works. That shit should have been a fucking card though.

>>52694819
Are you saying it's impossible for a writer to write a character that seems out of place to the setting? Because characters can be written exactly like that, it's nowhere near as difficult as you may think.

Because anon, some people are just shit writers, some people write like that because of corporate mandate. As a result some characters sound like Steve Buscemi holding a a skateboard over his shoulder.

>>52694914
Isn't Nissa green-blue now though

>>52694217
Isnt glissa a praetor now?

>>52694938
If you think that a character jars with the setting when the author has complete creative control over the setting they're writing the character within, then yes, you're the one that's incorrect. The author is the one who gets to define what fits the setting and what doesn't. Not you.

>>52678813
Because the whole plane was stolen by Bolas to make planeswalkers. Planeswalker sparks can go unignited if the walker does not face life threatening danger. From there most walkers evolve their already established talents. So a poison maker would commit to poison spells and the like.

>>52694938
They dropped the ball on writing planeswalkers. When I think of powerful magic wielders I think of something like Ten Who Were Taken from Black Company novels, not some "collage girls" as other anon puts it. I guess it's only appropriate that they no longer write lore novels.

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Are we still mad at Amonkhet for having a low power level and being Kamigawa 2.0?

>>52694954
Glissa simultaneously works under Vorinclex and is a Steel Thane, so she had protection when Norn took over Sheoldreds territory. She now "advises" Vorinclex while he muscles anything that Glissa wants out of the way as long as he doesn't disagree.

>>52694975
So you're saying I'm right? Because the writers don't have complete creative control over the setting and the characters.

>>52694975
So how much are you getting paid?

>>52689700
If they modify the plane to be diesel punk as fuck it would be 10/10 those rings already have the making of a diesel punk look.

>>52692856
>waaaaah waaaah fantasy is only medieval Europe from the real world.

Pretty sure Ravnica has coffee and police

>>52695007
>Glorious End
>Low power level

Nigger what?

>>52695111
Wasn't Ravnica having police an entire mechanic of the game even?

>>52695111
>>52695147
Coffee not police. no one ever called them police.

>>52695143
i think the implication in asking that rhetorical question is that earlier concerns about amonkhet being a weak set are no longer true

>>52695157
Isn't this just nitpicking the terminology for what's essentially a group of law enforcement officials.

>>52695159
Ehh Embalm was a serious let down. But then again every "set mechanic" looks fucking amazing and then is fucking worthless and its design space not properly utilized.

>>52694620
Being completely unable to fight is a lot different than him being the ace blue mage he used to be. He doesnt need to be able to unsummon/counterspell everything but hes fucking worthless as a character now
Before gatewatch
>can mind control everyone in ravnica simultaniously
>will perform a telepathic lobotomy if it helps him
>beats tezzeret
>beats vraska
>fights bolas
>tries to fix garruk
>fights chandra
>is willing to blow up a kid to win a duel
Post gatewatch
>is gay
>fights liliana
>cries and panics when zombies are around
>almost dies to werewolves
>"helps" other people cast their spells
>has no control over his telepathy
>tries to talk to people when they try to ruin his plans instead of mindjacking them or blanking them
jace sucks now

>>52695187
I think Embalm is going to be the new Vehicles. There's just too much synergy going on, as if just being able to play every creature twice wasn't valuable enough.

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>>52695007
the combos are real

>>52695197
i think they intentionally nerfed jace because he was a big fucking mary sue that people got tired of

>>52695180
It is, but we're talking about how a character speaks in a way no one else we've seen in the setting does.

>>52695197
The having no control I see more as a "How do I read this persons mind without turning it into a stress ball", he's trying not to be Liliana blue edition.

>>52695233
>It is, but we're talking about how a character speaks in a way no one else we've seen in the setting does.
Which setting in particular though there's like a whole multiverse of them

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>>52695197
>tfw you realize the old vs. new Jace reflects Wizards earlier and current view of how blue should be

>>52693300
Not sure if this is what you meant, but I assure you that Ravnica has a police force. The League of Wojek is an arm of the Boros Legion, where Wojek officers are assigned at precincts beats to walk or cases to investigate. Their job is to keep the peace and arrest anyone who would violate the law. In the days of the original Guildpact, once you were cuffed by a Wojek, you magically couldn't resist arrest any more.

The novels also indicate that Wojeks stereotypically have a fondness for eating too many roundcakes.

>>52695221
Well hes pointless now, a worthless human being amongst supermen
>>52695233
dude rode around in his FRIENDS body until it killed him, blue can be nasty.
>>52695257
[F]

>>52695249
The entire setting, like all of it. No one else in the setting calls anything the police they're either Wojek or the planes equivalent, and no plane Chandra has been to has called them police. No character that we've seen has used anything resembling the vocabulary Chandra has used, as far as we've seen her vocabulary and way of talking is jut out of place everywhere.

>>52695310
Like i said he's trying not the Liliana blue edition, so no boadyjacking, no mind melting and limit the mind reading to surface thoughts.

>>52695320
Those are all the abilities of telepathy. Hes not even jace anymore if he does nothing. If he doesnt want to hurt people he shouldnt be with the fucking gatewatch, he should be back on ravnica like the cuck hes become.

>>52695403
He should be back on Ravnica anyway, because he's shirking his goddamned duties right now.

>>52695320
>The entire setting, like all of it. No one else in the setting calls anything the police they're either Wojek or the planes equivalent, and no plane Chandra has been to has called them police. No character that we've seen has used anything resembling the vocabulary Chandra has used, as far as we've seen her vocabulary and way of talking is jut out of place everywhere.
I'm going to have to be honest with you.

I just see "police" as the general term for law enforcement people and didn't even notice anything weird about the way it was used in the story.

It did very little to influence my immersion and I doubt many other members of the target audience have the historical familiarity to see it as untowards either.

>>52695477
At this point in the story they should relegate jace to zordon and get a new blue ranger, maybe replace lili with garruk.

>>52695200
>That cost and rarity

This thing is spot on.

>>52695477
But he want's to go play with his friends and kick sand in brown kids faces

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>>52695200
>>52695007

>>52695157
The wojek police the populace. Someone could easily call them police.

>>52677720
He's Greek, idiot. Or I guess, Therisian. Theros-ian.

>>52695477
Oh shit I've forgotten about Ravnica. Did WotC too? I'd say there's no -real- way a huge company forgot, someone remembers and has it archived. But what of it? Wouldn't Ravnica be falling into serious disarray?

Build up for Rav 3: Melting Pot, where guilds finally cooperate, to overthrow absent Jace and his bullshit. You'll get like, GW rakdos people, doing like -/-1 counters in GW and shit, that'll be the gimmick. A white and black counter spell. Dope.

>>52695598
Mythic rare Simic bostdwipes, shows some fishy man scientist going raving ass with his new rakdos compatriots.

>>52695197
>cannot, in fact, mind control everyone in ravnica simultaneously - merely linking ten minds nearly fried out his own
>said telepathic lobotomies are almost always self-targetted
>he did the next two, yeah.
>lost horribly to Bolas because Tezzeret forced him to protect his mind, lasted for about a second
>Was manhandled by Garruk twice BEFORE Garruk was in slasher mode, got somebody else to help fix him because he didn't want it to happen a third time
>fighting Chandra is not something special, Chandra will fight pretty much anything

>>52695623
Everything in this post checks out

>>52695501
They just don't bother changing the rarity from mythic. If you check it out, EVERYTHING on Roboroswater has the mythic color.

>>52690183
Hate has no place in New Phyrexia. When witnessing the divisiveness of flesh, what lesser beings might see as hatred is actually the fervent desire to share Oneness in body, mind, and spirit.

There is no hatred for that which impedes love, only pity and sorrow for the depth of misunderstanding from those who are not One.

>>52677664
Upper class white people saving the stupid indefensive nigglets from the Patriarchy(tm) is literally what tumblr thinks it's doing.

>>52678756
He probably already has Nahiri and we know he has Tezzeret. Who else does he have? Garruk I'd bet.

>>52695598
Jace is magically the Guildpact now, and nobody's got the Oldwalker magic to cast anything that strong. Replacing the rules that he sets in place just by existing would be half-assed at best and the city would go into chaos. If the laws he put into place still function while he's gone, the city won't go into disarray, but no new issues will get resolved either and eventually someone's going to be an asshole about it.

The rest of your color-shifted stuff is absolute nonsense. Especially GW Rakdos, because the guilds are literally enemies because of how Rakdos views the entire Conclave (and how the Conclave sees him as a terrible evil).

>>52695787
Bolas is the leader
>W: Nahiri
>U: Tezzeret
>B: Ob Nixilis
>R: Tibalt
>G: Garruk

And yes, I know this would never happen, but at least it's a list of people in the colors who might be interested in fighting the Gatewatch.

>>52695598
Nah, that's not gonna happen. You remember the Commander 2015 stories? The one focused on Teysa ended with Tajik being taken prisoner by the Orzhov, and one of the most brilliant legal minds on Ravnica being forced back into slavery in service of her ancestors.

Ravnica 3.0 is probably gonna ride the revolution gravy train; either the guilds go to all out war and the guildless rise up against them, or it'll be a civil war between the guilds that stay loyal to the people and the ones that try to work for their benefit above all else.

>>52688653
Elesh Norn survived Koth using all his power to try and kamikaze her and effortlessly destroyed all black and red phyrexians already on the plane because she grew tired of Urabrask and Sheoldred.
She may be at least Volrath/Crovax tier.

>>52695789
Bah bah whatever you're not imaginative. The fact that it's nonsense was the hook anyways.

>>52695789
Orzhov doesnt care about the guildpact, there was a story for commander where tasijic and teysa get captured by the obzedot after she tricked jace into "reclarifying" some laws with her experience as an advokist

>>52695839
>tfw we'll get at least two more Ravnica blocks before anyone thinks to go to Tarkir and make the clans wedges again
It hurts.

>>52695827
>Tibalt
Part of me hopes that he gets some completely broken card if he ever comes back, but I'd be absolutely fine if he was dumpster tier next time too.

As for the choices, I think they're fine. The only change I'd make is to replace Ob Nixilis with Vraska or Ashiok. Ob just seems way too powerhungry to submit to anyone, if he ever does deal with Bolas it'll probably be from some kind of point of businesslike mutual benefit.

>>52695892
Agreed, Khanates>Broods.

>>52695883
Orzhov cares about the law to an extreme. Specifically so that they can take full, greedy advantage of it.

You know, like modern American politics.

>>52695930
Oy vey!

>>52695930
Na, they straight up break the law. Teysa is shitter shattered when her carefully crafted plan falls apart
>"The law is worthless to our kind, granddaughter. I have told you this for centuries."

>>52695827
>Nahiri
>Ob Nixilis
Can't work together, fucking waifufags that don't read the lore.
And between a hysteric self-righteous cunt and a military mastermind that's conquered countless planes. I'd take Ob Nixilis.

>>52696006
You may be right to idolize Ob Nixilis, he's fuxkinf awesome and I hope to see him more and as a more important character.

But Nahiri was entirely in the right, Sorin is a fag and fucked over Zendikar like 3 times. He's an awful friend

>>52695896
>Tibalt, Asshole
>2RR
>3 Loyalty
>+1 discard a card at random deal damage to target creature or player equal to that cards converted mana cost
>-1 Each player chooses two non land permanents. Then for each permanent chosen chose a player at random. Then each player gains control of each permanent for which he or she was chosen. Untap those permanents.
>-5 Flip a coin, if you win the flip you win the game.

>>52696006
You also forget he beat gideon in a melee fight when hes broken gearhulks, fought eldrazi titans and now tanked attacks from gods.

>>52696067
Gideon's high Con, average Str.

Nixilis didn't bother trying to actually deal hit point damage, he just grappled the fucker and tried to drown him.

>>52696080
Going on that logic the gearhulk should have torn him to peices. Nixilis beat gideon fair and square.

>>52696080
I wish the 3 inches of dirty water had won.

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>>52677555
So how does this work /tg/

>>52695852
Incorrect.
Elspeth, who is depressed as fuck and thinks everything is horrible forever and has massive PTSD issues involving Phyrexia, believes that Norn has taken over their domains, according to the 'limited access to information' she had.
She also thinks Koth is dead.
You cannot take anything in the one piece of writing that says anything about Norn's conquests because it is ENTIRELY SET UP to have her be an unreliable narrator. Koth is very much alive, after all - the creative team have said so outright. He's still fighting.
And even within the unreliable narration, nowhere does it say that what she did was effortless. Just that she was in control. Not even that the Praetors were dead or missing or anything. Just that Norn controlled Urabrask and Sheoldrad's domains.
What we CAN get from it is that Norn is in charge and that there are exceedingly few Mirrans left and they're all fucked

>>52696244
step 1 play tapper zombo
step 2-5 live
step 6 play noosegraff it enters with 5 counters, its a zombie so you tap a creature or artifact
step 7 opponent plays spell, noosegraff triggers and makes you remove a counter but you create a 2/2 zombie
step 8 the zombie enters the battlefield as a resolution of a triggered ability, because it is a zombie tapper zombie triggers and lets you tap a creature or artifact
repeat until out of counters or hp

>>52696023
Nahiri is shit.
Bolas has access to:
>Ramaz for W, R or G
>Tezzeret for U or B
>Vraska for B or G
>Baltrice for R
>Dack for U or R
Those are the ones that have worked for him or would work for him for nothing more plot contrived than coin.
Garruk wouldn't work for him, not only would he see Bolas as the ultimate prey, but he inherently hates schemers and will cleave your shit at the merest hint of social manipulation.
Ob could help with him, all Bolas has to do is promise he can take the Chain Veil back from Liliana's dead hands.
Nahiri wouldn't work with him, she's mad and stupid, any thought at all is too hard for that chalky rock she has in place of a brain.
Sorin would work with him, all he has to do is show him proof of Ugin lying to him about the indestructability of the eldrazi titans.
Tibalt would work with him, for the mere promise of being allowed and expected to hurt others without backlash.
Liliana would work with him again if it benefited her.

Everyone else is too selfish, self-righteous or hates him enough not to even be in the same plane if at all possible. But what's more likely to happen, if Bolas does show up with his Power Rangers is for them to be 4 since there are four small thrones at the foot of the Throne of the God-Pharao, and for the white member of the group to be an Amonkhet hero to prove to the people the trials' reward is real.

>>52692828
give this anon a gold star

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>the three walkers we've seen are all gatewatch walkers
>Nissa AGAIN
>dude, walking lands lmao AGAIN

>>52696244
>tfw all these mummies make me want to build an esper zombies edh deck

>>52696023
She was in the right to get revenge on Sorin, she wasn't in the right to end the lives of thousands by baiting a blind eterinities abomination to pre-mature reset a still healthy plane. Its even more unjustified when you consider this all happened right after Zendikar has been saved from oblivion.

>>52696998
But anon she was feeling emotional. Genocide's fine if someone's feeling emotional.

>>52697015
Was Nahri a metaphor for Hillary losing and the cultists were antifa?

I expect a set of 5 uncommmon planeswalkers next set, since the plan is supposed to be a walker factory, and everyone suggests an evil Gatewatch instead. That bothers me a bit, why have a walker factory and then bring some old walkers to deal with the Gatewatch? Woudn't a new weak walkers set make more sense?

>>52697116
I think she was just a more general metaphor for women being evil parasites who have evolved to lack empathy with the real humans who serve as their hosts

>>52689941

Thundering tanadon is so awesome

>>52694834

It's true though about SU. Three immortal space lesbian moms combined are worse parents than one burnt out musician dad living in a van.

>>52696472

Vraska wouldn't work for him either, seeing as her whole character defining trait is hating authority

>>52685003
>Fucking Golden dragon
>Black
End yourself

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>>52698324
It's a legal target for this card

>>52678041
It's balanced because only 1 exists, so it's second ability is useless.

>>52698324
But in Shards they describe the scales as black, it's just the oil that makes it look green/gold.

>>52679106
Hmmm. Too bad bolster isn't at the end, you could bolster the snake, and use this card as a way to trigger counters matter cards without first a valid target, because it makes one out of the blue then poofs it.

The real question is how do I get a green snake token into my graveyard, especially one with a flashback cost, since flashback is not usually green and never seen on tokens.

>>52683349
Are you saying they should SPLIT THE PARTY?!

yeah, desu, a planeswalking justice league makes a lot better sense as West Marches. I mean that's how they did JLU, minus the exploration but add mission of the week.

>>52689787
I think it was because of draft archetypes

>>52684480
>>52684112
They simplified to
>presentation-rising action
>climax-ending

>>52684902
>land God's sound like a novel idea

Yewah, the promised
Land God
3UW tap: Gain control of target creature. Its controller draws a card
5UW tap: Gain control of target Land. Its controller draws a card

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>>52684902
>land God's sound like a novel idea
New gods of Ham/Eggs leaked. Wedge Colors.
Black/Blue/Red left. White/Blue/Green Right.

>>52698324
Gold border, and resultantly scales, but primarily black wedge.

>>52698723
>Black/Blue/Red left. White/Blue/Green Right.
>wedge colors

>>52696513
flying lands, anon. A difference.

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>>52699082
Is that shard? I always get them mixed up, cause I think shard=pointy.

>>52697239
This could be cool actually. Uncommon or rare walkers that lacked the third fatal ability, or had new ideas like the new Nissa's X cost.

And to answer your question, oldwalkers are a limited resource and much more valuable, so throw some nuwalker trash at them intead.

>>52699896
A walker ultimate that doesn't necessarily finish the game... Tibalt? Chandra ablaze? Jace living Guildpact?

>>52694603
>If you want to read nonsensical trash written by dead white men
Hahahaha man you almost had me there.

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>>52690416
I thought that card effect looked familiar.

>>52698042
It's not anti feminist, the show is simply consistent with the plot. Gems don't breed so they don't know about raising a child. Obviously Greg is just a good dad. This isn't a super layered agenda against any political ideology, it's simply not bias. Don't poison a purely innocent story and turn it into a weapon

>>52700828
>Steven Universe
>Purely innocent

Pick one.

>>52701156
I'd ask you to post proof, but I know all you'd do is post a screenshot of a black person or two boys kissing and shout "DUH JOOOS!"

fuck off

>>52701178
>Assuming I'm /pol/ because I don't want children fed poorly-drawn, poorly-written, poorly-animated garbage that lionizes emotional immaturity and features disturbingly blatant sexual allegories.

Yeah, I'm one of those big, bad nazis. You got me.

>>52701241
>Posts no proof of why it's not just a normal cartoon and somehow has a sinister/ non-innocent agenda
>but muh allegories!
>still no proof
Like I thought, you've got nothing.

>>52701281
You see, normally I might make a case, but when your first response is "FUCK OFF NAZI! REEEEE!" I'm actually not all that inclined to show my work. If my broad points about the obvious themes and imagery aren't immediately apparent to you as a seeming watcher of the series, I don't think any amount of effort on my part is going to help you. Enjoy Rebecca Sugar's play with the "semiotics of gender." I sincerely hope you don't have children.

>>52692979
Not really. In feudalistic societies of course the parties that wanted protection would often form or seek out groups to do that, but there were usually no structures that 'enforced the law'. If every person in a group is the authority on enforcing customs there isn't really 'a police'
Maintaining public order can take many different forms and many different structures and just saying 'Egyptian equivalent' is part of the problem of every plane being seemingly the same with a new coat of paint.

>>52696998
She didn't know Zendikar had been saved and thought Sorin still had all his Oldwalker powers until the very end.
And was kind of bugshit nuts.