Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

>>52620683

I feel you anon, but I got around that shit by kitbashing my Blood Knights out of Empire and Bretonnian sets. Limited, bad or dated models is my excuse to get creative.

>>52621606
>probably me being stupid

Yep, glad we resolved this.

So me and my room mate want to get into AoS. I already have some skaven from back in the day and we are looking to start lizardmen, the enemy of the skaven. We want out list to both be strong but also pretty evenly matched so one person is not always winning. However, it would be nice if these lists could hold their own against other armies if we take them out to play against others.

For the skaven we have
40+ clan rats
a screaming bell, warp lightning cannon, and doom wheel
20 monks
Tons of giant rats, weapons teams, and ogres.

For a 1000pt match we are looking at
Screaming bell 260
20 clan rats 120
20 clan rats 120
doom wheel 140
warp lightning cannon 180

We then have 180 pts left over. I am thinking
2 x warpfire thrower weapon team
1x poisoned wind mortar weapon team

We could also add a warplock engineer or gutter runners or something.

If we want to expand the army I am thinking of getting a vermin lord (which is the best?) and some storm vermin.
For the seraphon we want to have a skink heavy army.

Skink priest 100
Bastiladon 300
stegadon 200
10 skinks 80
10 skinks 80
5 Chameleon skinks 120
5 Chameleon skinks 120

If we wanted to expand the army for higher points I am thinking of adding some ripperdactyles for the skink patrol and another box of skinks. Maybe a skink starseer and skink chief. If the stegadon or bastiladon work out well we could get another one of those too.

So, how do the lists look? Keep in mind they are written by someone who has never played age of sigmar. Any advice on how to expand each army? I am worried that because skaven are chaos the lizardmen will wreck them hard with all their anti-chaos stuff, but at the same time skaven have so many mortal wound applying weapons that maybe the skinks on dinos won't be able to handle it.

4th for slaanesh

>>52623054
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Would you say 1k is the best points value?

I've found army building and matches at 2k or higher to be very unwieldy, and at 2k+ list building basically becomes 'your opponent gets to take everything they could want and need with no hard choices made'.

MOONCLAN grots are best grots.
Spiderfang are okay too.
Gitmob why even bother?

>>52623282
Is there any Lore for Moonclan in AoS in any of the tomes or Campaign books? Or any art?

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So guys, when is the new Bretonnia Battletome due out?

>>52623202
Posting from last thread, I played mostly at 1000 but t b h I've just started so I don't even have more than those points in units. It's a good point racket as it's not too expensive and you can get a lot of variety and wacky tactics as it's fast and fun. Sc boxes are 500 all I think and those are pretty fun too but ain't much to do apart of clashing in the middle.

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>>52623331
Not as of yet, unfortunately

>>52623437
So they've not even been mentioned?

What are some decent 1000 point beastclaw Raiders lists? Best I can see if I want to stay pure raiders is like a huskard on thundertusk and a bunch of Yhetees.

>>52623202
Id say 1500 as 1000 usually restricts you from using most Monster/Behemoths efficiently.
I think GW intended standard games to be 1500 - 2000 points that way summoning is actually a decent option too

One Meme I really hope dies is people playing at 1200 points as it literally boils down to 1000pts+ 1 extra Battleline in most cases. which further pushes the Balance of armies which have good and multiple battleline uníts (read: updated battletomes) vs Armies who buy their nice toys after paying Tax with their Battleline which usually is low variety

>>52623331
They murder grots whose skin is not green enough and noses not long enough.

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>>52623936
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Played my first game today as a Demo. I actually enjoyed it. I like how melee combat switches back and fourth, and it's not set on who goes first each turn with initiative. I'm actually surprised how much I enjoyed it.

>>52624183
Welcome, friend. It's good you're giving the random initiative a chance. There are many who still hold out against it because of those dreaded double turns. And I will be hones, there have been a few times I was on the unfortunate end of a few of those that lead to my losses, but for each time that has happened, it has worked in my favor. Also it provides another level of tactical depth that is hard to grasp initially for a lot. A common knee-jerk reaction to first getting introduced to the rules is to either hate it, or ignore it altogether and do standard alternating turns. Good for you.

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>>52624140

>>52624243
If I wanted to start a small army for our Escalation league starting soon, which army would I want to look into if I wanted to me on the more snooty spectrum? I liked some of the Stormcast Vanguard with the sniper bows.

That's shooty spectrum, Damond auto correct.

>>52624296

Sylvaneth, Kharadron when they drop, Stormcast, Skaven are all good choices. Tzeentch as well if you want magic fire shooty and bucketloads of magic.

>>52624314
I have the silver tower box. Tzeentch wise I have what's in there. Not sure how decent that would be.

>>52624183
Wait until you start meeting enemies that let you fuck up the attack turn order. The new coming Sky Dorfs will have access to bombs that force people they hit to attack last.

There are ways to do that already, but I forgot what has that rule.

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Did some base coats on armor, chains, weapons, and cloth

>>52624527
Chaos Dwarf anon here. Love that pale skin anon, it's lookin great!

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>>52624564
Thanks

I'm gonna put purple and red washes over it to make it look bruised and disguting, like I did with pic related

>>52624524
Is there anyone who has bonus to init rolls?

>>52624609
Fire dqarf

>>52624609
seraphon can reroll their own initiative and the enemy initiative

archaon knows ahead of time what his initiative roll will be

fyreslayers have a battalion that gives them bonuses to the roll

>>52622927
Get the start collecting for Lizards.
The carnisaur alone costs the same as the box so you get the saurus and cav for free

Endrnigger

>>52624644
>>52624731
On the note of Fyreslayers, despite a lot of the army being "meh" right now because of their overcosting, I think I will always have a place in my heart for the Grimwrath Berserker. He fits into pretty much any army, since he is basically a bearded cruise missile.

I am hoping the Kharadron Overlords will have a battalion or code interpretation that lets you grant the "Skyfarer" keyword to any Duardin unit, just so I have have the fucker jump from a blimp into the thick of it.

>>52624805

That's pretty much what I'm hoping for as well. Dwarven combined might would be a fucking awesome force to field.

>>52624609
Death has the Coven Throne which can reroll a single die in the game and its command ability lets you decide you goes first on a iniative Tie it is pretty meh tho

>>52624805
>>52624902
I honestly wouldn't count on it. It would be cool if it happened, but I don't see it happening. Just because they're dwarfs, does not mean they are buddy buddys with the dispossessed or fyreslayers.

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>>52622415
We need unification among spooky stuffs!

>>52623936
>>52624140
Normally, I ignore the Brits when they talk about Americans ruining their game.
But I'm beginning to understand them.

Which is the best Verminlord build? Just ordered one and I'm planning to magnetize it, but which should I run most often?

>>52625224
The eshin one (deceiver) with skitterleap is pretty gud

>>52625040
Well, they still have a lot in common, and their goals do not interfere with each other at all, since Fyerslayers want Ur-Gold, Overlords want Aether Gold and Dispossessed want somewhere to live. Also regular gold, since you know, Dorfs.

Also, GW have been shown willingness to get a bit weird with their fluffy rules with the Sylvaneth book, letting you take 2 Duardin units in the Ironbark Wargrove.

Incidentally, the airships will most likely have the Duardin keyword now I think of it.

>>52625346

>Also, GW have been shown willingness to get a bit weird with their fluffy rules with the Sylvaneth book, letting you take 2 Duardin units in the Ironbark Wargrove.

Well I wanted to run Sylvaneth/Kharadoran overlords anyways... airships ahoy!

>>52624564
Why does anyone need to know who you are?

Just become a tripfriend if you're that obsessed with "fame"

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>>52622415
Soon

>>52623384
This

>>52623384
Never

WHEN THE FUK IS WE GITTIN' NEW SQUIGS BOSS?!

THEMS 40K BOYS BE GITTIN' ALL SORTS'A NEW SQUIGS AN' GUBBINS!

>>52623384
They won't be Bretonnians, but early to mid 2018.

>>52626165
What? 40k Orks haven't gotten a new model for years.

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>>52626191
Dat squig tho

>>52626220
Like I said, years.

>>52624764
How good is the carnisaur? I wanted a skink army list and the troglodon seems like trash. Compared to a stegadon how does the carnisaur fair? I feel the tegadon may be better vs hoards while the carnisaur may be better against other behemoths.

https://mega.nz/#!S8J2WSJC!jEW6Nw8NAAHr82Ef0b5zw_mwOIOInWOSoVyQSgOtHAg

Proper version of BoK pdf.

Thanks to our slav friend.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12714517

What army should I play, /tg/?

>>52627168
Thankyou brosef! Much appreciated

>>52627232
Moonclan obviously

Is it just me or is something up with the store? There's weird numbers beside the "add to cart" button

>>52627476
Not seeing anything, screencap?

What region are you and what page?

>>52627476
You might be in a weird region. Sometimes it puts me in the Netherlands or Australia if I go to a specific page from Google. Idk why.

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>>52627168
Read it
Pretty nice fluff, and the new rules are also great too

Kind of annoyed that there isn't a DP warscroll in there, but understandable i suppose

All i want is a VC one now ;_;

>>52621802
I don't. And yes I can't get one. Am working without permit, so no bank account for me.

>>52621925
The way it goes here, if I understand it correctly is that at the store only GW models with proper bases and fully painted are allowed. At the club, they are a bit more lax with stuff. But only as far as painting or assembly goes. Models have to have proper bases. You could play with legs on a base and it would probably be ok, as long as it is an AoS base.

What does Ironjawz infrastructure look like? What is their kultur like? I know they're more-or-less nomads and value the same things as more orruks/orks/greenskinz, but I wish their battletome discussed their kultur a bit more. I need inspiration for terrain.

>>52624527
What plans do you have for the armour? I am going to get some Blightkings for myself sometime soon, and I would like them to have some variety in their armour besides just regular metal and rust

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>BloodBlooderofbloodstampede
>Bloodmaster of skullbloodblooding
>3x8 Bloodcrusheskullblooder

>1 Hero
>8 Battleline
>1460/2000

Wat do with the 540 points left ?

>>52628632
>complaining about blood in Khorne units

You knew what you signed up for.

>>52628632
You'll need some ranged
Just go 3x1 and you'll be 2k on the nose

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>>52628632
>That Army + 3 Cannons since all you need is range
>Over £260 w/ 25% off
wew

>>52628759
300 ish pounds isn't bad for a complete army.

I pay full price for everything.

What's the easiest army to collect AND play? Girlfriend looking to join

>>52628961
>I pay full price for everything.
Why? Especially if your UK - just order from Dark Sphere or something

My girlfriend is away and my friend bailed on me for the second time

So I impulse bought 2 Daemon Princes just for something to do. Put them together, greenstuffed 'em and now today I'm going to paint them

>>52628759
>>52628961

Bro I ordered 9 start Collecting on wayland and got another 10% discount on top.
I already have all the minis on the way thats why i asked

>>52629048
>My girlfriend is away and my friend bailed on me for the second time

Hows the weather in Cuckistan today

>>52629048
>my girlfriend is away and my friend bailed on me
>for the second time

KEK

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Ironjawz Gargants confirmed?

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>>52629063
>>52629099
Oh yes, hue hue, cuck etc

Totally got me there guys, very well done

>>52629137
No, but confirmed that they're going to do something Aleguzzler related sometime in the next 2 years.

>>52627990

The rules of AoS say that measuring is done from model to model. Bases are only for keeping your model standing. Square and round bases are both allowed. If the GW store gives you shit, then whatever employee is doing so is in the wrong, especially since so many AoS kits are just old WFB boxes and still come with only square bases.

>>52629192
What happens when Skydorfs are all out of model-to-model range?

>>52629201
Then the rest of the armies as fucked. I sure as hell wouldn't want to face of an entire flying army that has long ranged weapons with my Brayherds

>>52629210
That sounds decidedly unfun.

>>52629201

Then ostensibly you can't hit them, particularly with melee dudes, not that it makes sense for a a grot or whatever to walk up and stab a boat with a spear. That's why so many people are concerned that the airships will be broken. The truth is that we just don't know how melee combat against the boats will work until we see some rules. That doesn't however, preclude you from blasting the thing out of the sky with ranged weapons.

Anyone checked out the new Mutalith rules?
50/50 chance of a free arcane bolt or better seems gretty pood

>>52629210
Ground units can hit them, they got destroyed by Flesh Eater Courts in the WD battle report.

>>52629223
I know. So I am not so thrilled about them coming out

>>52629223
>>52629238

It seems like >>52629237 has settled the issue. Apparently ground units can attack flying dorfs. I hadn't seen the WD battle report, though I had heard that Overlords were apparently the first army to ever actually lose their debut WD battle report. Doesn't bode well for them as a faction unless whoever was running them got fucked on rolls or something.

>>52629255
Rolls did not go well for the Kharadron player.

>>52629259

Well, there it is. To be fair, even if Overlords dropped and were shit tier right out of the gate, GW would sell a ton of them anyway because people seem to be digging the aesthetics of them.

So, Cthulhu Aelfs (sky pirates) and Sky Gobbos next, right?

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I'm thirsty for some Your Dudes, Antoine who can aid an Anon in need to satisfy his thirst.

Seraphon or beastclaw

>>52629297

I wouldn't count on either for next, but the skygrots will probably show up at some point, and and people keep mentioning early art depicting junk dirigibles that belong to Ironjawz, so with the skydorfs out of the gate and everyone obsessing over their boats, we'll probably start seeing aircraft for other factions before too terribly long.

>>52629313
Seraphon.

>>52629297
Cthulhu Aelves next.

>>52629269

Pretty much, I'd still play them. Airships are A) cool as fuck, and B) they really stand out on the table which I like.

>>52629299
Here you go Anon, here are my dudes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DleJ7guokNXxnsKZX7hu-vjRa0Hw4edANjkYRwm0PDY

>>52629394
C) will die to My Dig Bick Bloodthrister
(Hopefully ;_; )

>>52629430

We'll just reel him in with giant skyhooks, have ourselves a little Bloodthirster BBQ

>>52629313
Beastclaw

>>52629313
Clawbeast

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>>52629430
>>52629442

>>52629255
Tyranids also lost their new Codex Battle Report in 5th Ed.

>>52629479

I have to admit, that's some awesome looking art.

>>52629515

To what army?

>>52629479
I love the one guy shooting a tiny pistol at the Bloodthirster. He really thinks he has a chance.

>>52629522
Salamanders.

Played by Ward.[/spoilers]

>>52629541
They might live in sky fortresses now, but they're still Dwarfs.

>>52629551
jesus fucking christ

>want to advertise new or revamped army
>let's make them lose
Not even a Nidfag, but that's just hilarious.

>>52629551
Wow. That's just fucking low. Taking the flamer marines against a horde army in a match that's supposed to showcase them is some serious bullshit. What an asshole.

>>52629479
So some faggots like you already has the Kahradrons Epub ?

>>52629720
No, GW posted that on their community site.

>>52625110
>mfw Moonklan shitposter
>from Europe

>>52629313
Beastclaw if you want to powergame and like Moonklan/Bonesplitterz/Ogors as well. Seraphon otherwise. Vanilla Beastclaws are not fun for your opponents, but they also suck at scenarios.

>Really hate the GW zombies but after finding an old vid by WarbossTae i can stomach them because his painting makes them seem less shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsmVUHPtnrs

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How do I naked fire dwarfs, /tg/?

>>52629720
>Nurgle worshippers

>>52629809
Step 1: don't buy them
Step 2: repeat step 1

>>52629917
No, I want to play them.

>>52629809
>>52629922
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Age_of_Sigmar/Tactics/Edition_1.1/Fyreslayers

>>52629932
>trusting 1d4chan

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>>52629961
Then why are you here?

I want my Sky Dwarves nao!

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>>52629809
>Buy literraly anything and paint them
>Wait for the steelburner pack to have points in GHB2
>????
>TurboCurbRolfstomp everyone

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Are Orruk chariots any good?

>>52629922
They're impossible to win with, which would be okay if the models weren't fucking horrendous. I've only ever seen them beat Khorne Bloodbound.

>>52629932
This article is pure bullshit

>>52630009
>muh GHB will make gay midgets faster than sanic!
Face it, they're unsalvageable

>>52630009
This.

>>52629977
1d4chan is not 4chan.

Like this guy said >>52630016 it's bullshit.

>>52630027
>Dealing 6d6 free mortalwounds a turn in the hero phase will not make the dwarf better.

I mean i didnt expect anything out of an Aelf fag like you but...

>>52630011
No. The only good thing from Greenskinz is the Warboss on Wyvern, great and reliable budget Behemoth.

>>52630051
Dealing it to the thin air, I presume?

>>52630008
It begins this Saturday.

>>52630096
I
If you have no idea of the Fireslayer formation that will/should have points in the ghb2 then just stfu

>>52630065
>What are boarboys

>>52630124
Post it please?

Just wait for the updated battletomes, lads.

>>52629809
wait till generals handbook 2 comes out, they all got a reduction in points, which would make the so much better... Grimwrath berserker is 80 points... hot damn

>>52630136
Boar boyz got nothing on Gruntas

>>52629255
>Overlords were apparently the first army to ever actually lose their debut WD battle report.
There were some before, still it's rare

>>52630166
3
>Aelf fag shotpost then ask for spoonfeed when he has the name of the formation and google.

>>52630345
Not the same guy, just wondering if you had it. No need to be a cunt about it.

>>52628513
Scrap built I assume. It's probable that Orruks were also saved in Azyrhiem for awhile since Gorkamorka was one of the gods that ruled before getting bored and leaving. So if that's the case, they might remember or have an idea of what the barracks of the Stormcast were like or what buildings in Azyr are like and since Azyrhiem is literally a space station... you can probably get away with building ork 40k terrain and calling it a day. Obviously paint it gold instead of red cause gold is like the stormcast.

>>52627990
Jeeze your GW is strict then. Since our GW is one of the only stores in like 20 miles and our rep is actually in the hobby and has been for almost 30 years he understands that all the people in the store are like him. He knows people are gunna look for good deals and not everyone has time to sit there and paint, so unpainted models are okay. No one at the store even spergs about unpainted. We're all there to have a good time. and what's even an Aos base... it's just a black round disc.

>>52629328
There is the Skybashas who are ironjawz who own dirigibles to go fuck up enemies in the sky. I hope they just get added to the Ironjawz as stuff that they can take instead of a new faction.

So I'm starting out with a mixed Khorne army.

So far I have:

>A Slaughterpriest
>20 Blood Reavers
>10 Bloodletters

Where should I expand from here?

>>52630542
Maybe get some Slave to Darkness stuff?

>>52629238
Just play base to base. It's entirely allowed within the rules cause honestly, I did really good work on my Gordrakk for my ironjawz and fuck anyone who wants to go put their models on my base just to attack.

>>52630479
>It's probable that Orruks were also saved in Azyrhiem
Pretty sure Sigmar killed them all

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I made a Savage Worlds AoS book.

>>52630542
Bloodthirster - why the hell not?

>>52630542
Either of the Start Collecting boxes for Khorne are a great start. The Bloodbound one gives you tougher stuff, while the Daemon one offers more killy stuff. Personally I would lean more towards the Daemon box so you can get a cannon and add to your Bloodletters unit. As far as battleline units go, they're all pretty good. It really depends on your style I suppose. I would definitely recommend you pick up some Blood Warriors or Chaos Warriors as some point though, just for some tougher battleline options. You also REALLY want a Bloodsecrator. I would also recommend a Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut, as he's pretty killy on top of having a really good command ability. Also a Bloodthirster. No Khorne army is complete without a Bloodthirster.

>>52630651

That's a hell of a 0 to 60 move.

>>52630553

I was thinking that, actually. Just annoying that Chaos Warriors come in boxes of 16, when the unit comes in orders of 10.

>>52630648
>Putting the cancer that is snorecast eternals on the cover
Gee what a surprise

>>52630542
Get the AoS boxed set.
Trade the Stormcast straight up for another set of the Khorne and you get a fuckton of dudes.
Also you NEED a bloodsecrator with khorne, and this method will give you two of them.

>>52630666
Appropriate Bloodthirster trips

>>52629226
You can use destiny dice on it

The problem is that there are more efficient sources of D3/D6 mortal wounds and they have longer range

>>52630648
Cool, good effort mate

I'm perusing now

>>52630708

Bloodthirster trips would be 888, though.

>>52630666
Just get a BT honestly.
Its mandatory anyway.

>>52630726
But which one?
The one with the big axe is max damage, but the whip and axe one is the classic bloodthrister loadout and cooler.

>>52630677
Who would be better to put on the cover?

>pick Khorne as my first army
>aww yiss gonna chop some motherfuckers up
>entire faction is based on synergy and overlapping buffs

i just wanted to take some heads

buffs are for elves, dammit

>>52630648
Look at page 16, in the first senetence under "Effects" there is a misspelled word.

>Effects: Inhabitants of the Realm of Beats

>>52630733
Get one box and 3 magnets. done.
Literraly the easiest kit to magnet.

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>>52630755
literally anything else

>>52630785
>Realm of Beats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYKUa0iREwE

>>52630772
>Concil of blood
Done

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>>52630648
Oh, and a Chaos mutation extract from a future supplement to expand Chaos gameplay a bit. Inspired by the only Chaos book that matters. I don't really know of any other AoS communities that would tolerate this stuff, if anyone has any ideas that would be great.

>>52630785
Thanks, the Realm of Slaanesh shouldn't be mentioned on that page.

>>52630827
I dunno, that image seems to encapsulate things pretty well, it's a nice simple cover piece, it depicts a small group of characters about to do battle, and it relates to the namesake of the setting. Putting Ogors or Nurgle there wouldn't make sense.

>>52630827
>>52630755

Maybe 9th Age is more your speed.

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>*blocks your path*

Sheiiiit guys what do you do

WiP Nurgle Daemon Prince - first attempt with green stuff ever, only just put the first coat of Athonian Camo on it

I gave him Elephantiasis

>>52630952
Wow, he's also a master of stealth!

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>>52630952
Hurr durr retard

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>>52630959

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>>52630932
Kneel and pray tzeentch that doggo dont eat me. I can probably outrun BigBadGuy but not Doggo

>>52630977
That's Khorgos fucking Khul. You're not outrunning him.

>>52630963
Greenstuff work looks alright, but there's that big mouldline on his wing.

>>52630986
>Move 5"

meh. I can do it

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Looking for feedback

I was thinking 140 points

>>52630992
Only noticed it properly after the shade went on, it's dealt with now either way

>>52631023
Alright then, what's the plan for painting him?

>>52629201
If you are actually playing model to model instead of base to base, you are a fucking retard.
Everything about AoS before the GHB was literally Kirby being a fucking retard.
If you suppose ass hats like Kirby, by all means, play model to model.
Don't bring the Ever chosen though, or any model on a monster.
None of their weapons will ever be in range.

>>52629255
When they released the new Brets in 6th they lost the first battle, played a second battle, and still only tied.

Which army requires the least synergy?

I want to go balls-to-the-wall herohammer. Big Boys Fighting Big Fights.

>>52631036
Everytime someone wants to play model to model I just use my 8" long black metal pegs for my skyfires.
Then its Base to base e.v.e.r.y.t.i.m.e

>>52630136
Shit

>>52631071
This. This is the right answer.
Sometimes, you got to out faggot the faggots. Well done anon

>>52631059
Thinking Beastclaws or Gutbusters is what you're looking for.

>>52631029
Shit knows

Probably darken the membranes on the wings with some seraphim sepia. Eyes yellow, do the armour plates in bronze, get some Nurgle's rot on him somewhere, and Typhus corrosion to add some decay to the metal

>>52631175
Sounds alright. Might want to get some Nihlakh Oxyde for added aging on bronze, too.

>>52629961
If there is one good thing about 1d4chan tactics, it's that they are optimistic.

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>>52631059
Warherds.
All minotaurs and ghorgons

>>52631416
How many point is this ? Looks like a pain train to me

>>52631468

Looks like 1k.

Apparently, these are the Kharadron units that will be available for pre-order on the 15th, and their respective prices:

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1877

>>52631534
If the medium airship is going to cost £50 I wonder about the other ones, I'm guessing like 37 and 80

>>52631416

I really wanna play Warherd, but I know if I do, I know they're unlikely to ever get an update.

What's the fluff reason for them not just being Brayherds, anyway?

>>52631566
>What's the fluff reason for them not just being Brayherds, anyway?
Brayherds are scrawny little shits to them. They don't want to be associated with such weakness.

I don't actually know why

>>52631566
>I know they're unlikely to ever get an update
A tomebook? No, possibly never

But I wouldn't be surprised if they'll update the Grand Alliance books.

So many units have their warscroll changed in the last year and so many new units, it would make sense to reprint and correct the other stuff.

Fiends of Slaanesh with 2 tail strikes and Pincer wounding on 3+. Do it GW!

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>>52631468
Minotaurs are 180 for 3 and are battleline
Ghorgons are 220 (they MURDER shit)
Doombulls are 120
Cygores are 180

>>52631566
In the GA chaos book it just says they fight along side the brayherds and will fight for other chaos factions as long as they are given payment of battle and flesh of the victims.

Also this art is some of the best to come out of AoS and has an awesome minotaur

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>>52631566
Do it

>>52631697
Nice thanks ! They could be the punch i seek for my skaven, I will take a look at their rules. moreover, 120 seems very low for a Doombull

>>52631697

I actually like the idea of warherd tribes. Just big nomadic wreck-shit fuckers.

Wait, wouldn't Chaos Dwarves love warherds? It's not a huge leap of logic to see them as basically Hashut given form, being the Bullgod.

>>52631734
Skaven have a lot of punch what are you talking about?

>>52631694
Fiends of Slaanesh should do Mortal Wounds with the tail. That way they will have a place in the army.

The other unit in the Host already do what the Fiend do.

>>52631734
They are 120 I took it right out of the GHB.

Also there is some cool stuff (2 pages in GA:C) about how other chaos factions will seek out a doombull to offer them the spoils of war to fight for them, using the warherds as linebreakers because they are wrecking machines, but to seek out the tribes doombull could result in disaster as it might just wreck and eat you.
Same thing happens in battle to those who try to seek out the doombull in 1 v 1 combat to end a conflict. It usually doesn't end well for those foolish enough to try

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So what BTs are likely?
>High Aelves/Lion Guard
>Drukhai/Pirates
>Vampyre Counts
>Lyches + Skellingtons
>Nurgle/Slaanesh
>Clan Skyre/Verminus

>>52631752
I know but i like to know all the things i can field within the chaos allegiance & i forgot about them. They can represent a big distraction on the tabletop & great opportunities for conversion, especially with skavens

>>52631824
>Free peoples
>deep elves
>Sky grots
>Nurgle
>Skryre
>Verminus
>rattlemebones

>>52631834
Get a jabbersythe or two, throw at the enemies strongest dudes and laugh.
You can convert them with hellpit parts if you have

>>52631865
I'm just looking at it right now & it seems to be a lot of fun to field. Passive damage ability + This nice crowd control effect can make my opponents mad. Monsters of chaos are pretty nice to field some role & seems not so expensive (140 point for a cockatrix or the jabberdude)

I really want to do a beast-focused Chaos army. Mixing Warherds, Brayherds, Thunderscorn, Monsters of Chaos.

How fucked am I?

>>52631911
Yeah they can make things not attack (aura of madness), and if they can actually attack it, they might get damaged back for each wound!
They are amazing

>>52631940
Just do beastmen
Honestly... with the tzaangor AND skyfires having the GOR keyword, you get new units, with range, and I can see them expanding the GOR faction in the future. Bestigor + Skyfires are a cool mix.

>>52631972

I dunno if I want to do god-aligned stuff like that. I was thinking these would be Chaos stuff from the Realm of Beasts.

>>52631943
Yeah, this would offer some blitz tactics with the flying ability & the control is not only about attacking, it specifies No spells-move-attacks-charge, so even on a 6+, this is a good distraction carnifex. My Spire of dawn box is arriving thursday, I will see if i can convert the big bird into a jabberdude

>>52631018
I read it as Skink Master of Skinks at first glance

I'm almost convinced to try out AoS
is points system balanced? is there any sort of core tax or limits on number of characters?

>>52631566
Bullgors are rad

2 attacks each at Rend-2 3 damage wrecks shit

Get a squad of 9, give them Lord of War for +1 hit and the Doombulls command ability for +1 wound and watch them tear units part

They can do crazy long charges because they get +1 to charge rolls for each enemy unit within 12". It's not uncommon to get +4 or +5 to charge rolls.

>>52632037
Go dl the General's HB and read all of matched play - yes there's restrictions
Yes it's pretty balanced

>>52632037
Yeah you just need battleline units.

Also if you just want to try it, get ONE box of dudes and you can play Hinterlands (needs like 5-10 models depending on faction). If you like how hinterlands plays, then expand into a proper AoS game with minimal investment.
A hinterlands warband for example could be 8 warriors of chaos.

is it okay to discus 3rd party minis here or only GW minis allowed?

Why do Khornate armies never play like fluff suggests?

They're a total synergy faction for some reason, despite their whole shtick being just charging into the enemy and hacking them apart.

>>52632077
Holy shit this Hinterlands shill like clockwork.

>>52629809

If you aren't above mixing them with other order support models they can be playable in casual use

Always take vulkite beserkers in units of 30 and remember you have great not-firedrakes for short ranged shooting. Take that hero that lets you reroll your Ward saves.

Runeson on fire dragon is p good

A hurricanum gives all your dorfs a +1 to hit and long range shooting as well.

Smallest 1k legal army?

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>>52632126
>VL on ZD - 440
>2x 5 Blood Knights - 520
960/1000

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>>52631940

>>52632126
Spirit of Durthu X2
2 X 5 tree revenants

1000

>>52632126
archaon and varanguard

>>52632100
>Why do Khornate armies never play like fluff suggests?

I plan too. Fluff is a typical barbarian tribe got rekt and only a handful of the strongest survived, but Khorne was displeased with this.

Gonna have a Priest / Bloodstoker and no generic mortal units, everything else will just be fun Daemon formations, Blood-hunt, Murderhost, etc representing the Daemonic incursion brought to the battle by the heroes rituals

You may strike down the priest, but he dies knowing his work is complete

>>52622415
anyone have a higher res version of OP's pic?

>>52629259
>>52629269
The overlord player also played absolutely terribly (most likely on purpose).

He sent all of his units and ships into melee range for absolutely no reason, other than to make the battle report interesting. This combined with him missing a lot of his rolls lead to him losing horribly.

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>>52632178
Sounds like another person needs warherds.
NO SYNERGY
NO TACTICS
NO SPELLS
NOT ENOUGH GUYS TO CAP OBJECTIVES
JUST SMASH IN THE FUCKING FACE

>>52632224

>RUN
>CHARGE
>SMASH
>KILL

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>Allegiance: Soulblight
>Leaders
Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440)
- General
- Deathlance & Shield & Chalice
- Trait: Red Fury
Vampire Lord (140)
- Mount: Flying Horror

>Battleline
10 x Blood Knights (520)
5 x Blood Knights (260)
5 x Blood Knights (260)
>Units
3 x Vargheists (160)
3 x Vargheists (160)
Total: 1940/2000

Give me new Vampires GW
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52632264
Back before the rule of 1,
>Doombull puts Slaughterer's call on Ghorgon
>Add 1 to wound rolls
>Every 4+ to wound generates another attack
>Each wound is 3 damage or D6 damage depending on weapon

>>52632304
Full wounds on the Maw it 2+ to get another attack before the buff, so it goes to 1+. Always got another attack as long as you hit.

>>52632100
There's nothing that says Khornates can't be organized Roman-esque legions.

>>52632100

>Oh cool, Khorne armies are heavily focused on their heroes, that'd be cool
>They're all support heroes for some reason

Why aren't Khorne heroes beatsticks? It's KHORNE. Why would he want his followers helping each other?! Their heroes should just be killy as shit.

>>52632350
Khorne's ultimate weapon is the power of friendship

>>52632100
>>52632350

Unless you're playing really competitively, Khorne stuff is still decent on it's own. Blood Reavers with Meatripper axes are still 1"/1/4+/4+/-1/1. Not AMAZING, but a solid offensive profile for a battleline. The synergy exists if you want it, but it's not like, for example, a Slaughterpriest can't also handle himself in combat. And if you do want a beatstick, take something like a Daemon Prince or a Mighty Lord of Khorne.

What's a good Death Summoning pool?
Would say 400-500 of summoning points be too much?

>>52632448
For 2000 pts 400 works exceptionally well

Should I give Khorne-marked Warriors of Chaos two weapons or weapon and shield?

>>52632633
What should I use?

>>52632633
different anon
I was thinking about this for my summoning pool

20x Grave Guard
20x Zombies
2x Banshees
2x Cairns
2x Harbringers
6x Hosts

>>52632100
>Take 4 BT and cannon
>Win

>>52632805
See, this is what I'm confused about. Do I have to lay out exactly what I plan to summon at the start of the game, or can I choose as I summon?

>>52632930
You choose, but that's a pool on units i'd take with me every game in a seperate case
Might have to get 40 zombies instead of 20...

>>52632287
Whatcha gunna do vs Sum Skarbrand nigga 1?1?

>>52632945
So like in my 1k bone zone, if I lay aside 160 points, could I bring an additional 20 rattlebones AND 5 more hexwraiths, and pick one depending on situation?

>>52632982
Yep
You'd physically take both units, but choose 1 depending on what you need on the table

Might even buy another Mourngul you know - just in case

>>52632142
take vampie on manticore and you charge in on 1 turn with blood knights

Any ausbro's around? Where's the best place to buy shit? I just want to paint really but it's rough out here with prices.

>>52632979
Charge him with the fatter squad of BKs and VLZD

>>52633046
Find an american seller

>>52624183
I actually really like that, because it adds a level of depth and forethought to multiple combats going on. Instead of just me punch you you punch back, I can kinda ignore units that just exist to stall out while heavy hitters get to fully do their jobs.

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I made a Seraphon Allegiance pack

It's a first draft so let me know what you guys think

Longtime Lizardmen players may notice some references to the days of Lustria

>>52632104
It's not just one. I probably recommend it as often as him. It's a good way to play aos, especially when starting out

So what armies are the old time Brettonia players running these days?

I'm trying to get my brother into Sigmar but he only played knights in WHFB.

I'm suggesting the idea of doing skeleton knights, and painting them with heraldry, but are there other options to appeal to them horse lovers?

>>52630717
How did you find it?

>>52633689
just play bretonnians? theyre good

>>52633781
Are you still able to buy models though? Closest I see on the site are the free peoples gun horses

>>52631740
Do Chorfs even exist in AoS?

>>52633296
Nice work anon! Going to pass it along to my Lizard buddy to see what he thinks.

>>52630648
People are just buttmad about the stormcast eternals, having them on the cover is fine. It's iconic and recognizeable as AoS.

I'm looking through the PDF now. Savage Worlds I think is a solid choice for an AoS rpg.

>>52634093
Yep, they don't even appear in the pdf until page 27, I hoped diving straight into the non-stormcasts first would keep people reading past the first pages.

I was debating over whether to write it for WFRP (At the risk of enraging you know who's) or Savage Worlds, I went for the latter since it's built around fast action and heroic characters, something pretty solid for the setting, it's also designed for fan material, so less work on my part. WFRP would be a bad idea for loads of reasons.

>>52633829

Nah bretonnians aren't available from GW anymore but eBay is always an option.

Currently if you want to play fully supported non-compendium human knights who are still made by GW, it's a demigryph Knights free people army with a griffon general.

The list is pretty kickass with the usual free people synergies and it looks badass on the table too.

If he's cool with stormcast they can play some mean cavalry lists but they're dragons and gryphchargers rather than horses

>>52634194
Is there somewhere where I can get the rules for savage worlds?

>>52634390
https://mega.nz/#!nsN2iILK!Ji9e4IoK2Q1osGjv0xQPGjARpL6YBuM5aMC4mcuggJM

I have a huge collection of a couple hundred SW books if you want the link to that too. It's an extension of the one on pdf share general.

>>52634440
Thanks Anon!

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>Beginnings of my Death army shipped
>Planned theme + working on fluff
>Internet is currently fapping about Aetherstrike + Khorne BT
>Death is butt of every joke
I'll show them

I do it for him

>>52634505
What did you get anon?

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>>52634815
>Leader
Arkhan The Black Mortarch of Sacrament - 340
Necromancer - 120

>Battleline
10x Zombies - 60
10x Zombies - 60
10x Zombies - 60

>Behemoth
Mourngul - 400

>Other
2x Morghast Archai - 240
10x Hexwraiths - 320
Summoning Points - 400
--2000 points

Once VCs get a proper BT i'll run Vampires, but until then it's spooky time

>>52634890
You should get Vlad and run him as the generic Vampire lord if you like him so much.

So here are the guesstimated USD prices for the preorders this weekend

Battletome: $40
Arkanaut Frigate: $85
Arkanaut Company: $45
Admiral: $25

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>>52633689
>>52633829
Even Duncan plays Brets.
You can use them as their own army, or throw them in a Grand Alliance Order army with Empire etc.
Peg Knights + Steamtanks? Yes please.

>>52634936
I do, but i said to myself i won't touch any Vampires until they get a proper book
Even my summon units are just ghosts + skeletons

>>52634954
>Arkanaut Company £27.50
> £27.50 to USD is $34.14

Wouldn't it make more sense for them to be $35 then?

>>52634954
>Caring about squats
Nigga pls.

Where have they confirmed that the Age of Chaos was only 200 years? Every description I've found has said 'many hundreds of years' or more.

>>52634994
When prices go to usd, they don't directly translate from conversion. They rarely do.

I looked at the UK site and found similarly priced items, like 40k tzaangors are 27.50 pounds. In the US store, they are $45.

For the book, the blades of khorne battletome was similarly priced
For the frigate, the seraphon carnasaur was similarly priced
For the admiral i used the heraldor

>>52635007
My AoS and 40k dwarf/squat armies would both like a word with you.

>>52635039
Mkay that makes sense. Guess it was wishful thinking on my part since Dwarf Warriors are 35 for 16. I was hoping Arkanauts would be 35 for 10 or somesuch.

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rate

>>52635154
I think you need more jabberslythes

>>52635154
High save one wound blender blocks will hate you. Every one else will get mildly annoyed. As someone who runs stormvermin, you'd ruin my day.

>>52635154
>balewind vortex
Why

>>52635154

I guess that is one way to get around their shitty casting.

Not bad, I'll have to copy it with my own.

>>52635323

Balewind Vortex is damn useful, especially for Brayherds.

>>52635345
Okay but why is it useful

Shamans only get to cast 1 spell. Balewind is best on casters that get 2+ spells per turn.

>>52635323

Savage Dominion is a 9 to cast, familiars and balewind vortex are the only good ways to boost their casting if you are pure Brayherds.

>>52635368
Shamans also have arcane bolt and mystic shield.

>>52632224
Sounds like Beastclaw Raiders to me.

>>52635154

Put Sayl the Faithless in there in place of the second beastlord and its golden.

>>52635330
>dropping 10 wound Jabbers into the middle of the enemy deathstars
>taking objectives with the Gor
>By the time they chew through 2-3 jabbers the game is over and they've taken a ton of wounds or been wiped out

>>52635492
>Shooting that isn't hurling a giant rock
No thanks.

>>52635520

Statistically they will take 10 mortal wounds per Jabberslythe, possibly all on the same unit if shooty deathstars are the ~new hotness~

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Soon you'll pay.
You'll all pay.

>>52635767
go be edgy somewhere else

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I've been looking to start a beastmen army, any recommendations?
My brother has been wanting to start lizardmen anything to worry about or are they a push over?

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>>52635767
Can't wait

>>52635837

Beastmen aren't very good besides >>52635154
crazy gimmick lists like this. Tzaangors on the other hand, are very very good if you are interested in Tzeentch. They hit like a truck and have great special units and good daemon/caster support.

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>>52635834
REEEEEEE

>>52635837
>I've been looking to start a beastmen army, any recommendations?
Don't do it
t. massive beastmen fan

>>52635563
jabberslythe ability only "reflects" damage if it was dealt in the combat phase

shooty lists will be fine

>>52636034

Oh y ou're right.

They won't be fine when you dogpile them in melee.

>>52636075
How do you plan on getting to them? Nobody is stupid enough to leave an exposed shooting unit. There will be a screen there that you have to bash into before you can engage the unit you want.

10 wounds each goes pretty quick against dedicated artillery lists. Longstrikes can kill 1 per jabberslythe salvo and they shoot 2+ times per turn. Skyfires + LOC can reliably kill 1-2 per turn and Kurnoths + Hurricanum do the same.

It's a nice army idea but you'll kill the enemy screen and then run out of gas.

>>52636136

>hurrdurudrudruhurrdurr everyone plays without terrain and always have a perfect set up

always these whitebox scenarios. come back when you've played a few games kiddo.

>>52636176
Damn dude greentext, hurrdurr, and kiddo?

youre the meme master, you win this argument

>>52636176
>post list
>get upset when people poke holes in it

Why even post it then

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worth it, y/n?

So is Khorne finally worthwhile? Can it finally be played without Sayl dumbassery?

>>52636566
Its basically Warscrolbuilder dot com but you only get the point of the battletome you paid in the app

>>52636593
Yes.
me gusta blood council.

Hinterlands question:
What win conditions do you anons use when running a campaign? Do you just use a ratio of wins/losses?

>>52636566
I'd say no. Not saying it's bad, it really isn't.

But I use scrollbuilder for free. Sure scrollbuilder doesn't catch everything you can do wrong in a list, but just having a basic knowledge of the GHB helps you catch that stuff on your own.

I guess if you've never read the GHB, Azyr would be for you. But if you are familiar enough with GHB's rules, you have no excuse with making a flawed list on scrollbuilder.

>>52636654
depends if they completed the quest or what. We have a big narrative, each hero has some goals

>>52636640
>only get the point of the battletome you paid in the app

oh well fuck that then.

>>52636654
Depends, most of the time he army/squad with the most win os also the one to complete the objectives in the story but not always

>>52636670
So you design it so that your heroes need to accomplish a specific goal?

Rattle Me Bones army with all my rattles done in gold, how stylish on a scale of Fabius to FAbulous?

>>52636704
Well we play by the book but also add recruitment and shit into the mix.
for example last campaign was won by khorne because the demon player had both kill the dark elf player (randomely rolled nemesis) and got a "insert magic object that is important".
but the guy with the most win/loss was a dorf, who didnt "complete" any "oath" (quest).

kinda when back in the day you could play games of WHFB that were linked to the small hexagonal ties that I forgot the name of. It was like a 3 months long Risk game.

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>>52636786
>to the small hexagonal ties that I forgot the name of.

it wass called mighty empires. we also use that for Hinterland

>>52635837
If I recall correctly, don't lizardmen get buffs vs chaos? That doesn't sound like a fun matchup.

>>52636920
i think i read its a buff against demons i know lizard men do fuckall against my skaven, however they are buffed against the demon keyword
so beastmen should be pretty safe

I've been playing Khorne for a while but now I'm tempted by Tzeentch.

Talk me out of it, /tg/.

>>52637004
Go with Tzeentch, better god, better models and you don't have to see the world BLOOD over a 100 times

>>52636694
>>52636786
>>52636670
I ask because I started a narrative campaign but, silly me, I forgot to designate a win condition. The story involves several warbands chasing after ab artifact that tire ab aelven empire apart, and the end goal is for them to either destroy it or seize it in an attempt to master it.

Naturally, the story will progress to that point, but it hit me that it's still kinda vague, so I was thinking about win/loss ratio being an aspect of it. I'm against that being the only condition, hoesver, because I don't want folks to be dripping out once they hit the point of no return.

The individual quests and win conditions would be a great way to keep some folks motivated, though.

>>52637042

Tzeentch does seem to fit my playstyle a little better. I hate having my heroes sniped and suddenly the rest of my army is garbage, but I also like having heroes actually be powerful.

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*Summons 10 seekers*
*Teleports behind you within 3 inches*
*takes your army apart*
nothing personell kiddo
*summons 10 more seekers*

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>>52637004
why are you such a fagit ? Khorne is literraly best god and won vs the old, grognard filled, world. also Remenebuh, mega khorne dragon with 88 wounds is comming and is bigger than a reaver titan

>>52637071
how can one "Snipe" a bloodthrister woth 14 wounds tho ?

>>52637004
Play Tzeentch

Khorne gets all the attention from GW

>>52637093

I don't run a bloodthirster. I only play 1k points.

>>52637093
longstrikes, skyfires + spells, bastiladon + stegadon, stormfiends, kurnoths + hurricanum

>>52637066
Say some shit like

-part of the campaign will be in the shadow realm
-randomly as the armies go throught their game (like in turn 3 or 4) the mist dissip and they see something on the groun (new meta objective)
-wow its clear part 1 of *special book* or *special object*
-each army can take the parts of the objects during the game so that even a bottom guy can still be in for the win if he win vs a guy with 4-5 parts etc

just spewing random shit to give you idead

So for Seraphon players; how much of a pain in the ass are carnosaurs to paint?

Thinking about picking up the Seraphon start collecting box but have never painted something as big as that

>>52637251
Its easy as fuck honestly. next to no detail, just airbrush then drybrush and done to tabletop levels.

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>>52637072
*see the big tits*
*Unzip pants*
Nothin' personel, cucq
*rape*

Slaanesh, when?

>>52637194
Thanks anon, I can build off of that. This is the first time I've run a narrative campaign, so I'm ad libbing a bit. I've run a few RPG campaigns in the past, though, so it's not unfamiliar territory.

>>52637427
They are fine already if you use slaves to darkness + Daemons and hellstriders

>>52635767
Ow the edge.jpg

>>52636566
Well I make a lot of money, so I don't really notice the few bucks a month. So go for it

>>52636759
As long as you make them all pirate themed, your golden bro