Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

Fyreslayers are cool

Fuck you faggot

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>>52575376
Eels, Mae. Eeeeeeels.

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>>52575436

So I am building a Soulblight Army and I decided to go with a Draugr/ Norse theme.

I'll be using Chaos knights as my Blood Knights, with Chaos Emblems removed and maybe using some upgrades.

How does this list Look:

Allegiance: Death

Leaders
Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440)
- General
- Vampiric Sword & Chalice
- Trait: Red Fury
- Artefact: Ring of Immortality
Vampire Lord (140)
- Mount: Nightmare

Battleline
5 x Blood Knights (260)
5 x Blood Knights (260)
5 x Blood Knights (260)

Units
3 x Vargheists (160)
3 x Vargheists (160)
2 x Bat Swarms (80)
2 x Bat Swarms (80)

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Does anyone know where I can find out what year model set was released? I'm curious at when some of these sculpts were first made and sold and when they were most recently updated,

>>52575429
Yes they are. Reading their battletome only reinforces that. I really hope they at least get an updated battletome. An across the board points drop is definitely a step in the right direction, but I fear not enough unless they get their own relics and toys

Are moonclan gobbos viable?

>>52575651
I don't give a shit about their rules. No matter how you stat them, they're still an army of gay midgets and it's embarrassing to field them. You can't fix it without remaking the entire model lineup, and that's not gonna happen.

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Finished the skin on my Keeper of Secrets conversion because I hate finecast.

Does it look chaos enough or still too elfy?

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>>52575591
>I'll be using Chaos knights as my Blood Knights
good luck explaining that to the tournament host

Slaanesh when?
I need to make cummies for the cummies god

>>52576008
a couple months ago I bought and painted a cauldron of blood.

That monstrosity of an eye-sore that is supposed to ride on top went strait in the bitz box and hasn't seen the light of day since.

yours looks better than almost anything I've seen done with that model.

>>52575376
How will GW buff them?

>>52575787
moonclan grots still are the best melee grots, even after the nerf of nets (you can only use 3 nets per 20 models now).

>>52575787
Depends entirely how you play them.

>>52576089
Why don't you just base it and paint it like stone. Use it as a statue terrain piece or give it to a 40k player for an eldar avatar

>>52575609
Sprues and slotta base tabs have copyright dates on them. Solegends.com has catalogues (look under Citadel) if you're looking for stuff from early 2000s or before.

>>52576008
Looks good

>>52575609
tomb kings are mid eighties
empire was late eighties
some vampire stuff early nineties
dwarves stuff was late eighties early nineties
then some elf stuff in the mid nineties
more stuff for someone
other stuff, them more elf stuff later
some death stuff
then end times happened
then fyre slayers

obviously I don't have a clue but am also curious.

What's the policy on using conversions of one model to represent another? It's not straight proxying if you're using a model as a base to build on, right?

I.e. converting a Khorgorath or Plague Drone or something into a Daemon Prince

I am starting seraphon, what are the best behemoths and how good are they?

Bastiladon seems great as a ranged unit that can become a very tough nut to crack with re-rollable saves.

But there are 4 melee behemoths and I not sure which to get.

The carnasaurs look okay but how do they compare to the stegadon? I imagine that the stegadon is better vs hoards and the carnasaurs are better vs elite units. The troglodon just seems terrible, am I right?

>>52576762
Troglodon is absolute garbage. Bastiladons are damn near unkillable if you give it mystic shield and celestial rites from a priest. 2+ rerollable sv that ignores rend. Plus it has a laser on its back that'll wreck shit and if it's a daemon, will further wreck it shit. IMO Bastiladon all day.

What to equip to the tree revenants? Glaive seems to make more sense even on the scion. Am I right?

>>52575376
I like their beasts

>>52576676
Mainly depends on the base size, the model size & the conversions you bring to the mini itself so they are not just elfs dragon prince painted in red for BK for example.
Kitbashing is always a good way to convert models, especially with chaos !

>>52576862
Glaive and enchanted blade are statistically the same. I use the glaive because having less attacks it makes better use of the single reroll.

>>52575376
I like them.

>>52576676
If the base and height match the intended model and it's Wizzywig, and a good conversion nobody cares, if you can make The Nightbringer look like a daemon Prince then IMHO and many people's it's a fucking Daemon Prince. Though, always best to check with a tourny organiser. Base size and height have to be the same though.

>>52577049
>Wizzywig

???

>>52577049
I'm this guy, not trying to be the OP just that was in the name field for some reason.

>>52577060
What you see is what you get, often shortened in Wysiwyg.

It means that if the warscroll has a lance and a shield the conversion should have a lance and a shield.

>>52576762
Bastiladon + Stegadon are in almost every Seraphon list

>>52577060
What you see is what you get, so As long as you're daemon prince has wings and a sword and mark of khorne in your list the converted model better have a sword and wings and be covered in khorne signs ect.

>>52577081
>>52577084

I know what you see is what you get, and wysiwyg, but seeing Wizzywig really confused me. Never seen it before.

>>52576008
For example this is a brilliant conversion, I duno what base size it is on but it should be on a 60mm round base, then height wise a Keeper is around 5'' From the base i'd say, perhaps larger.

Truly a great conversion though.

>>52577101
Sorry i'm used to saying it more than typing it so I just typed it out how I've been saying it rather than its initials. I can see how that might be confusing.

How is mortal nurgle as an army? Will nurgle get a battletome soon?

>>52577101
Moreover you were talking about a daemon prince, & chaos allows you massive conversion since the main idea behind it is change, mutation & disorder. A daemon prince can either be a flying creepy kid surrounded by nurglings (to up it to the right size) or a big spider covered by corruption & dicease

>>52577185
No one really knows. Maybe there'll be some kind of tie in with the Nurgle 40k release in May.

>>52577205
Not the same guy, just someone confused by a term he'd never seen before. But I'm sure it'll help the actual guy.

>>52576133
Yup. Double Damage through the command ability of the grot warboss is too good. If you run bellowing tyrant you now have a squad of gobbos that can hit 3 ranks deep on 4+/2+ that on a 4+ to wound does double damage. Your nets hit on 3 and wound on 3+ with 4+ being double damage.

Gitmob grots use of the goblin warboss (+1 bravery and +1 attack) and the gitmob shaman (+1 wound -1 rend) makes for 3 ranks of goblins who double attack, have a rend of -1 and can hit on 2 and wound of 3's.

>>52576886
>>52577049
>>52577121
Intredasting gents, cheers for the input

I have the Nurgle Daemon Prince model, but I want to field a second one and I'm looking for different avenues to create a more Nurgley DP than the standard kit

>>52577220

Sorry mate, didn't paid attention. Thx

>>52576676
So this message was for you => >>52577205

Painting Undead with a snow theme.

What's a good secondary colour?
Thought about using black fabrics and brass weapons but I'm worried it'll look boring.

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>>52575548

>>52577303
Blue is a good cool colour. Maybe yellow if you want something warmer?

>>52577531
But blue is the warmest color anon

>>52577083
Every casual list, I havent seen a competitive one that hasnt been running bloodclaw and shadowstrike in ages. Just no room for either monster in those lists.

But then again, seraphon are one of those armies with a ton of viable playstyles, its why I like them so much.

>>52577303
Red fabrics with white trim.
Make an army of evil undead santa clauses.

>>52576008
Looks great man.

Whats a good scheme for Bloodbound that isn't red, black, bone, iron, steel, or bronze?

Am I just fucked?

>>52577780
Go for ice theme with blue & white. Frozen bloodbound seems nice in my head

Who else Serves the best God here?

>>52577780
Green

Even the Khorne daemons are green

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>>52577121
He is on a 60 my dude.

>>52577910
>Even the Khorne daemons are green

Wut. When? Where?

>>52577917
just awesome, ready to hug the hell out of you !

>>52577917
What buts did you use?

>>52577910
Tuska plz go

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>>52577690
>>52577625
>>52577355

This is my inspiration color-wise so far.

My only real problem is models with fabric AND wood since I can't really paint both of them black. Maybe just paint the wood an off white?

>>52577640
>Bloodclaw and Shadowstrike
Anon you are the casual

Bloodclaw costs too many points and Shadowstrike gives you almost nothing for 120 points. Ripperdactyls are really crappy units, deep striking a squad of bad units into the enemy army is not an effective strategy.

The best seraphon lists are defensive shooting lists that have stegadon/bastiladon and razordon/salamander backed by an Astrolith Bearer, Starseer, screens of warriors + guard, and a skink priest.

The absolute best seraphon list is kroak + vortex but it gets hard countered by TK and stormcast.

>>52570929
>sneaky evil wretched thing that hides in the dark

So what's with the skaven hate then?

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>>52577956
The main body is the Cauldron of Blood (I used the medusa for my Boobsnake, pictured here).
So the leftover made me the heralds and this guy.
The horns and the bottom sets of arms/horns are from the Chaos Chariot/Gorebeast Chariot
The Slaanesh icon is from the Warshrine, and so is the back piece
The tail is from the Chaos Manticore lord

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>>52577917
Yeah it looks
Brilliant, also made the best of a
Bad sculpt with those Daemon princea I hate that model. Here is my converted Nightbringer DP,
Magnetic weapons which is nice. Also working on two heavy convertions of the Ogroid into khorne DP's.

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>>52578053
Same model. Not the best ever done but I'm still only new to converting.

>>52578009
ouh awesome, you are the one with the Sigvald's return theme army. I would love to face it on the tabletop. Very good job , inspiring

>>52578009
That's pretty hot, babe.

Do you have any lists to show?

>>52575376

> Thinking.

That's the problem, they weren't.

>>52577985
>Alpha striking chamo skinks and terradons with rerolls to hit and wound is bad.

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>>52578082
Yeah its me. seems like nobody else plays slaanesh

>>52577303
Ever seen game of thrones?

>>52578087
You need to leave.

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same dude with the Night Bringer DP I mainly do Khorne but I wanted some Diaz sculpts and have been trying to convert them as little as possible but getting a command in

>>52578087
Ive never played with the army yet.
I'm a dumbass so I am going to have every option ready to go before I actually start playing with it.

>>52577985
Not in the current high end competittive meta. Defensive lists get fucked by mortal wound lists, and there are a lot of those. If youre seeing a lot of defensive lists then your meta is slow. Rememeber that new releases push seraphon down tthe pecking order quite a bit.

>>52578138
Cool. Those look good but I cant deal with metal anymore so I use the regular ones.

>>52578142
word of advice if you play Slaanesh, take hordes of Daemonettes in mods of 30 or use Slaves to darkness with mark of Slaanesh, units of 10-20 daemonettes just don't do the job most of the time unfortunately.

>>52578112
Well, some people are not at ease with the whole sexuality & androgynous aspect of Slaanesh but armies like yours can bring some new followers. How are they performing on battle ? Very fast army if I remember well

>>52578159
I know what you mean, plastic is really all I want, my Metal Nightbringer bugs the hell out of also.

>>52578166
Will keep it in mind.
I'm thinking as assload of warriors with the shrine, and then the mounted lord to let them attack twice. I like mortals best because Sigvald.

>>52578197
yeah a unit of 20/30 warriors with the right buffs is one hell of a fucking force. a unit with 60 wounds and saves v mortal wounds is very powerful, I find having a unit that threatening takes a lot of firepower away from my monsters and into them which is good.

>>52578186
I don't really care about the sex aspect. I'm more into the Excess and perfection thing.
In Sigvald's book hes more interested in wine, killing powerful foes and feasts for example. He has a wife, and it never really mentions sex

>>52578233
Good point, I love the pride aspect sigvald & slaanesh represent. perfection and excess & excess in perfection. I think GW tried to cut this sex part a bit with the new models (the juan diaz models were more about tits)

>>52578100
>using chameleon skinks for damage
Literally playing the game wrong
3+/4+, no rend, 1 damage?

Chameleon Skinks are only good for capturing objectives and killing artillery crew

>>52578157
Thats why you use Saurus Warriors instead of Guard. Theyre more cost effective.

Seraphon struggle against mortal wounds but theyre still relevant in the competitive scene if you play them properly. The have excellent shooting and being able to control turn order is always going to be a powerful ability

>>52578116
(You)

>>52578142
Cool. My experience has shown that Slaanesh wins and loses based on how piling in and hit modifiers are manipulated.

Are sisters of the Thorn better as one unit of ten, or two units of five?

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So I've come into the possession of the Battle for Skull Pass Night Goblins.

Upon looking at how it comes with this big boss and the rules say to use the Warboss rules for Big boss, would you say this fellow would play by the rules of Squig and Prodder since he's got a squig and only one kinda moon shaped spear?

>>52578938
It's what I use. I just ask my opponent if that is okay beforehand. I've only had one game where someone said no out of about forty.

>>52578768
its hard to imagine a situation where more than one unit of five is the right choice.

Was there a box that had 3 Sepharon monstrous creatures?

Hello, never done this kind of thing before. Interested in getting a bunch of skeletons or undead or something like that. Except for those Flesh Court things, they're kinda gross.

Anyways, how do I get into this if I want to have a big horde of undead led by a skeleton or lich or something?

>>52579557
You buy a shit ton of skeleton boxes, a wright king, and a necromancer. Necromancers and wright king not only buff the skeletons who hit like a brick in hordes, but also keep them from dying. Then flavor with other units to flavor.

>>52579596
Cool, how many skeletons do I need for an average game?

>>52579557
You're just starting out, so aim for 1000 points.

Get yourself your core, so 4 boxes of 10 Skeletons, to make up 2 units of 20. Then get a Wight King with either a Black Axe or a Baleful Tomb Blade.

Necromancer is optional but does buff your skeletons with a really good spell.

>>52579642
At a thousand, you need at least 2 units of them.

They can have from 10 to 40 Skeletons per unit. At 2000, you need 3 and at 2500 you need 4.

>>52579412
Thunderbeast host is probably what you're thinking of.

>>52579596
>>52579644
>>52579680
Are the spears any good? And I should grab the Champion and hornblower and stuff, right?

>>52579707
Is Seraphon being updated or something? a lot of sold out on the US store.

>>52577973
excellent taste anon

working on a bunch of kitbashed blood knights at the moment, basically been looping the WotLK soundtrack while painting them

>>52579793
Spears are the best option, gives you reach, meaning more skeletons can attack at once.

And yes, always grab those. You get skeletons back with them.

>>52576066
As long as there is a small conversion made and that the paint theme fits blood knights, why not? I use the dragon blade princes as blood knights model and they are very fine substitution for the real model, which is shit.

Or are you just a douche?

>>52579897
Hes a douche. Im using some obscure model range for mine.

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>>52579557
If get 4 boxes of skeletons, one of each wight king, a necromancer, and two boxes of hexwraiths (one unit on duty, and another for summoning). If you feel like it, grab another two boxes of skeles for tarpit/charge blocking summons.

This is what I'm using for 1k ATM.

>>52579948
I mean, are your models correctly sized cavalry? Do they have some kind of edgy/red paint theme that COULD be associated to vampires in some way? If yes, why the fuck not.

>>52575436
Please let it be shadow elves next.

Do I need to use the official models in the store? I found some really cheap skeletons that look pretty cool, but they aren't the right brand.

>>52580014
if you're playing in a Games Workshop store then yea, you've gotta use GW minis.

>>52580014
I'm guessing they're mantic? Yeah, GW will flip the fuck out on you. I had considered them, but chose otherwise.

>>52580014
Link to them?

Also: some stores might give you shit for using non-gw minis. Some will be ok with it.

>>52580059
>>52580069
>>52580075
Shit, that sucks. I don't know where I would play outside the store.

>>52579197
I mean personally I don't see why not, as literally every other weapon option doesn't fit. Do you think if I emailed GW they'd give a concrete answer?

>>52580132
I know. It's a pretty dumb policy. Once again, it changes from store to store.

>>52580069
Wow, those skeleton models are very very nice! And cheap as fuck! I'll use those for the bulk when I build deathrattle. Pretty sure those chumps at GW wont even notice it. As long as the other models are obvious GW minis.

Slaaneshi Aelves when?

>>52580263
>Pretty sure those chumps at GW wont even notice it.

They will.

>>52580277
Just too bad for them. A busy hobby store attracts a lot more people than an empty one. Only GW is in montreal anyway and its always empty. Better go to the other stores around the city that are actually nice.

Does anyone know how the Mantic skeletons compare to GW? I was thinking of using Mantic for the infantry core and then using GW black knights.

>>52580309
Hard to say. Better google that shit instead of waiting for a response here.

>>52580166
I doubt most GWs would allow non-gw minis in there. The store first and foremost is an advert for their minis. Outside of the display case, the players are an added seller in that walker bys can see your minis. If you are using some other minis not GW, then you are advertising other options.

Why does GWs make so many bundle sets limited time. Really annoying.

>>52580418
Which one?

>>52580555
Pestilens, i.e. The best army yet

>>52575972
What if I greenstuff kilts on all of them? Bam, manly instead of homo.

>>52580732
I must say, it would be a pretty cool army. Good idea, anon.

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Guess what time it is?

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>>52581256
It's Spooky Time!

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Grot sky pirates fucking when?

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bump for interest in aelves.

>everyone worried about trump bombed Syria just now.

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>>52581256
>>52581270


>>52582420
ITS SPOOKIN TIME!!!

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>>52582420
Looks like its skeleton time for all of us.

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Sup aos, noob here so please bear with me. I want to start a nurgle demons/mortals army in the 1000 points range as I really liked the look of the minis.
I've been told they are pretty good and soak damage like no tomorrow but I'm a bit lost, I want for sure a lord of plague and the blightkings for aesthetic reasons but from there I'm not sure.
>Option A
Buy a start collecting slaves to darkness and use:
10 warriors
5 knights
1 chariot
1 Chaos sorcerer
1 warrior converted to exalted with bits and shit
According to scrollbuilder this list can be played(?) and sits in 940 points
I don't like the chariot or the knights much desu but if they're useful in game then I don't mind doing them.

>Option B
Buy a start collecting nurgle daemons
1 herald
1 nurglings
1 plague drones
1 plague bearer
plus having to buy
1 plague bearer for battle line
This gives 880 so I could add something more maybe but I think this one will end more expensive than the other.

Anyone can give me some insight or post a better alternative list?

>>52582566
Either pick up two start collecting nurgle daemons, or grab two boxes of blightkings, two boxes of chaos knights, a lord of plagues, and a sorcerer lord (NOT the rotbringers)

>>52582566
Allegiance: Chaos

Leaders
Lord of Plagues (100)
- General
- Trait: Great Destroyer
- Artefact: Chaos Runeblade
Chaos Sorcerer Lord (140)
- Runestaff
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle

Battleline
5 x Putrid Blightkings (180)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (180)
5 x Chaos Knights (200)
- Ensorcelled Weapons
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle
5 x Chaos Knights (200)
- Ensorcelled Weapons
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle

Total: 1000/1000

Here's the mortal list I listed off in my last reply

>>52582583
>>52582616
Thanks! Any reason why should I pick knights(curious)?

>>52582628
They're fast, hit hard, and are fairly tough

The first part is very important in a blightkings list.

>>52582628
Tough cavalry. Papa burgs tends to have slow mortals.

Here's the daemons:

Allegiance: Chaos

Leaders
Daemon Prince Of Nurgle (160)
- General
- Trait: Lord of War
- Artefact: Chaos Runeblade
Herald Of Nurgle (100)

Battleline
10 x Plaguebearers Of Nurgle (100)
10 x Plaguebearers Of Nurgle (100)
10 x Plaguebearers Of Nurgle (100)

Units
6 x Plague Drones Of Nurgle (440)

Total: 1000/1000

>>52582654
>>52582642
Nice, thanks again. Last question I have is if (subjectively or objectively) one is better than the other, I suppose that "it depends" but maybe there's something that might come on top maybe.

>>52582714
Nah, they're both pretty fun lists. The opponents reaction when you throw 6 drones and a prince at them at 1k is usually pretty entertaining. I personally liked the daemons.

Now a days, I've started up a skeleton rape train for 1k.

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Here's what I think will happen with death:

-they'll combine deathrattle, deadwalkers, deathmages, and nighthaunt into a single battletome styled like the Tzeentch one with general traits, and allegiance special traits and spells. I'd hope that there would be some new units for deadwalkers, as they're pretty lacking in variety. Same goes for nighthaunt, and maybe rattle. Death mages should be allowed into any army.
I'm not sure about soulblight. It would be nice to see new forces for them, and new, cheaper blood knight models, with their own battletome.

Alternatively, they could just make a vampire counts battletome with all of the above mentioned factions.

>>52575591
Ring is garbage now that it costs points

>>52578112
I play Slaanesh. I stand with you in decadence, glorious sensuous decadence!

Death was a fucking mistake.

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Can I get a quick rundown on the Slaanesh?
If I paint their nipples pink and their skin with the colour of human skin, will GW co-workers throw me out of their store?

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>>52583010
Ok

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>>52583011
>the colour of human skin

Remind me again what colour "humans" are?

>>52583414
White

>>52575376
Should I kit my chaos warriors out with a shield or two weapons?

New ironjawz units when? I'm tired of always playing the same 3 units over and over

>>52583478
Go for shields

>>52583414
Just double checked, I Looked at my veiny hand I've been lying on while shitposting sideways, humans are confirmed to be blue and pink, with some yellow in the fatty areas

>roll the die
>rng determines I should collect Death

Cool! I sure can't wait for these upcoming releases and Battletomes!

>>52583835
Welcome to the Spooky side of Unlife, Anon.

How viable is a SCE vanguard only army? the new models are pretty cool

What will come after elves?

>>52583915
We don't know.

20 Ardboyz and a Warchanter for $80. How'd I do?

>>52583736
Incoming ranged and sky units, pls

>>52583835
Welcome to hell

>>52583478
Shield. Chaos warriors job isn't to do damage, it's too tarpit shit

I give the same advice for SCE liberators

>>52583932
This, i want brutes with fucking ballistas as crossbows

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>>52578112
I do, and quite successfully.
There are plenty of others.

The real question is why aren't you on Instagram or the facebook group for the Host of Slaanesh players?

>>52577917
We are using a very similar colour scheme. Nice.

>>52583929
Not very well

>>52583929
Ardboyz are shit, they are only good to get morre bodies for objectives

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Tzaangors were stated to be the most intelligent of all beastmen in the DoT book. Does that mean they're more intelligent than Skaven? Where are their machines, then?

>>52584692
Skaven aren't mutated beasts with human. Skaven are mutated rats.

>>52584692
Intelligence doesn't mean shit when you don't have the knowledge or actual ability to build things.

They're better at magic because of it, but not really much else.

>>52584692
They have use magic and craft goof armour and arms. That's as good as it gets. That's all they need.

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>>52576008

>>52577917
I like what you've done to the DP on the left!

>>52578112
Nurgle player here, and I can safely say that your awesome army makes me almost considering converting to your pansy god.

How well do Nurgle Blight kings perform for Mortal nurgle?

>>52584875
Fucking fantastically.

>>52584879
Elaborate? Thinking of getting some

>>52584932
They're tough as fuck and do decent damage, especially on 6s. They're great.

>>52584763
Newsflash, all beastmen can originate from humans, beasts, or other beastmen, they aren't exclusively mutated humans.

>>52581474
>winged beastmen
I want this

>>52583900
hunters and palladors are great

raptors and aetherwings are top tier

check out the aetherstrike force battalion, and imagine it with 9 or 12 longstrike raptors in a single squad

I wish Khorne wasn't so synergy-focused. I just wish they were by default great at close combat. Not having ranged attacks is enough of a tradeoff, instead of ALSO needing to set up a lattice of buffs to make them comparable to others.

>>52584763
some humans worship the great horned rat and get turned into skaven

>>52584875
Great, a bit slow, good synthesis with other units

Issue is that they're ONLY battleline if the army is PURE Nurgle Mortals, meaning you'll have to take Marauders, Warriors or Plaguebearers if you want to take something other than Rotbringers or STD with keywords

>>52585139
Which also becomes aminor issue at 2000 points since you need 3 Battleliners, and you'll be spunking between 180 and 540 points on that

>>52584875
+Great defenses, high wounds, high bravery, good save
+Work best at being defensive, Nurgle keyword gives them access to multiple defensive buffs
+Any hit roll of 6+ does D6 hits instead, great synergy with +1 hit buffs like Lord of War command trait
+Work best in sustained combat scenarios where they can use their hero phase ability
+If you can get them on an objective they'll be nearly impossible to take off

-Slow, hard to be aggressive with them
-No rend, need mortal wound support from other units to break enemy lines
-Slow melee, relies on support from fast units to flank and capture objectives

>>52585115
Bloodreavers are normal men driven to khorne worship by the order gods abandoning them in the Age of Chaos

The power of khorne drives them to even greater heights of rage and bloodlust

I like it

>>52575376

Motherfuckin' Dorfs.

>>52585139
Blight Kings don't work well as a battleline choice past 1000 points because you really want to run them as a single squad of 10-15 to get the most out of buffs like Lord of War and Mystic Shield

Plaguebearers are a really good battleline choice though, so it's fine

>>52585343
I just meant that they basically require you to take other units, so if the anon wanted to use a plague claw or daemon prince or something, he'd have to adjust his list

>>52575376
>What the fuck were they thinking
We've been wondering since this whole AOS bullshit began, OP.

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>>52585691
>mfw it would have been better merging fantasy with 40k
>all fantasy shit took place in God emperors dream
>chaos slowly crept into his sleeping mind as he began to fade
>sigmar was embodiment of emperors remaining consciousness

>>52586081
>It was a dream

I'm glad you don't work for GW

>>52586118
Either that or time travel to fix everything right last minute.

>>52586251
>both of your suggestions literally being the most lazy and shitty resolutions for anyone who's written into a corner

I'm glad GW had the balls to actually END the world when they did End Times, instead of giving a shitty resolution like that. AoS at least is trying new things and it's great

Any tips for painting tattoos? I was thinking of tattooing up some of my beastmen, but I have no idea how to do it.

>>52586550
I don't kniw if beastmen are advanced eniugh for tattoos. I just put warpaint on mine desU

>>52586550

I've never used them but Hasslefree sell some tribal tattoo transfers so it might be easier to use those.

>>52586273
agreed

>>52584620
I know how they play ye fucking orruksplainer, asking about deal

>>52580132
>>52580166
In a store that makes its money selling and displaying gw models, why would they let you play non gw models on the tables they pay for in the store they pay for?

Cmon guys i know you wanna use your toys but lets be realistic here.

>>52582845
Yea. When I look at slot of the factions, it looks like it would be the same as if they had skinks, Saurus, and slann all as separate factions.

Doesn't make much sense.

>>52583414
Pretty much all the colours in your picture.

Generally not blue or purple...unless something is wrong with them.

I hope Ironjawz get their battletome unit soon. I've bought everything but a mawkrusha so far and I'm thinking about expanding into Bonesplitterz, but fuck if I don't want more/better Ironjawz

Quick question: Do Sylvaneth have to pay reinforcement points for extra Wyldwoods that they bring in from Verdant Blessing, Acorn of Ages and their Allegiance ability? Seems a bit overpowered if you can just flood the table with them.

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>gw let this through design

>>52587308
>when your model gets dirty but its part of the scenery

>>52587308
That looks sweet as fuck though

>>52587235
>wanting more
There's other battletome factions in more need of update. Isn't ironjawz already on the new format?

>>52587300
wildwoods cost 0 points so I'd assume not

>>52587331
I want some grotz update, moonclan specifically with new squigs

>>52587331
Ironjawz was one of the last books before GHB.

>>52587347
I won't mind grots. I actually think moonclan grots are pretty cute. And I don't even play them, I play pestilens/nurgle/BONEZONE

>>52587300
They do, however if you have a Sylvaneth Allegiance, then they cost 0 points.

Flooding the table with them is also harder than you would think, but even then, without being able to make and use Wyldwoods, most Sylvaneth units are actually pretty shitty for their price.

>>52587105
Getting pissy at not being able to use non gw models in gw stores is like getting pissed you cant bring your own beer to a pub.

>>52587308
WELCOME TO MARIO KART!

>>52587373
Moonclan grotz are actually pretty neat, I like the Goblins a lot more than Orks because they actually seem to be cunning and sneaky, and I've always been a fan of evil ugly goblins living under the mountains. Moonclan reminds me of the goblins from the first Hobbit movie and I actually loved those

>>52587333
>>52587387
That feels a bit silly, but if those are the rules then fair enough. Thanks guys!

>>52587473
I thought it was called Formula Waaaaaaagh!

>>52587387
>most Sylvaneth units are actually pretty shitty for their price.
as a new player who picked Sylvaneth that sounds concerning.
Also how many units of hunters is too many before people start moaning? The models look really nice but I've heard people get annoyed if you take too many.

>>52587539
That is specifically without Wyldwoods. With them, they go from shit to meh tier, to very good.

Tree Revenants: Average Melee profile, "ok" armour, but shit model count. Would be horrifically overpriced if you didn't have any wyldwoods, but when you have do, their teleportation makes them strong, since they can be used to pick at weak points of the enemies army, then just fuck off to the next bit. They are a legitimate threat to warmachines etc

Dryads: Average all around, with exception for attack range which is better than average, but when they are in Wyldwoods, then they become a lot harder to kill, and again, ability to travel from one to the other means they are very mobile.

Spite Revenants: Profile is shit no matter how you look at it, but their special rules let them cause havoc in the battleshock phase, and the more wyldwoods (well, terrain in general, but wyldwoods are the best choice) around, the better for them. Even with Wyldwoods they are tricky to use mind you.

As for Kurnoth Hunters, it depends on how many points you are playing I guess. I would say if half your armies points are hunters, people have a right to groan about it. They are very strong. They are one of the units that is silly strong even without the Wyldwoods to help.

>>52585090
Tzaangors on disks is probably the closest we'll ever get to this.

Did the April WD get put up anywhere? I just want to find out the prices for the new Duardin stuff if possible.

>>52587968

It doesn't show the prices, or release date.

>>52586550
Don't paint them on with pure colors. It might seem like a small thing, but mix a little bit of the skin color into your tattoo paint. It helps tie them together so it doesn't look painted on. If you're doing black, mix in a little blue, green, purple, etc to make it not so stark.
It also helps to do tattoos before you wash the skin areas, so they get the same shading and don't look flat.

>>52587539
Tree/Spite revenants cost too much but Kurnoths cost too little

I would increase Kurnoths to 200, maybe 220

Everything else is fine

>>52587968
>>52587976
Pre orders up tomorrow I think

>>52586550
For beastman, just slap globs of texture paint on them to represent shit.
Poop smithing gets you dirty man

>>52588118
No. Tomorrows preorders are just newcromunda terrain. The 15th is kharadron overlords preorders.

>>52587368
Which means we got some years before an update... sadly.

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The Stormcast enter the Waifu Wars with Angharad, how does she compare with the other waifus?

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>>52588265
Stormcast waifu is best waifu

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>>52588265
ANGHARAAAD?! THATS MY CHILD, MY PROPERTY!!!

>>52587522
No shit, my local GW is doing a Formula Waaaaaargh this month. Paint up a bike and go nuts.

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>>52588330
>Somebody actually spent time drawing this

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>>52588451
I know. It's great. We're getting fanart and commissions done now.

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>>52588484

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>>52588148
That's...actually what I've been doing for the theme of the army lol

>>52588593
Haha it really does look like they smeared shit over their banner. Is that a texture paint I'm assuming?

>>52580166
>I know. It's a pretty dumb policy.
You also think people should bring their store bought beer to bars?

trying to decide on an army here, do any of them play like nidzilla tyranids? like just mostly big scary monsters?

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>>52588631
Typhus Corrosion mostly. The gors are covered in that, Blood for the Blood God, and a little bit of Stirland Mud.

>>52588168
maybe not. SC and BB-khorne got updates "out of sequence", there is good reason to hope that the other codices will also see new books to make them current with the new standard.

then again SS and BB-khorne are the poster children for AOS so they might be getting special treatment

>>52588164
Wrong. 8th is preorder for kharadron, says so in the latest white dwarf.

>>52588730
Look at Seraphon (Order) and Beastclaw Raiders (Destruction)

>>52589094
are they really going to do pre-orders before dropping the points for the Kharadron?

>>52588730
Flesh eatter courts

>>52589094
I literally just asked the manager at the gw I'm sitting in and he said next week. Make of that what you will.

>>52588820
Dat shitlump

>>52589094
white dwarf has been wrong before, it could be wrong again

>>52588593
don't get me wrong these are awesome, I love them and really dig the theme your going for, but it bothers me that a lot of detail on the miniature is ignored with your paint scheme. Its probably not even worth worrying about because like I said, they look really good.

>>52587539
Meh Hunters are no more cheesy than Dracoth Cavalry, or Paladins, or Brutes, or Thundertusk. Sylvaneth battlelines are crap so what do people expect you to take, should I be wasting my points on worthless revenants.

>>52589094
You saw preorders for the warscroll cards, bro. The real preorders don't happen until next weekend.

It's going to be fun when we get the new zealand preview tonight to see how wrong you are.

>>52589280
To be fair, it bothers me too. I put a lot of effort into the skin and then covered it all up with shit. I've only done a few though, so I'm going to try to tone it down a little on the rest of the unit. The heroes are still "clean", I'll most likely leave them mostly that way. No sense painting a fancy Malagor only to cover him in poop.

Is there a recommended amount of units to have on the table like 40k does claim objectives and other stuff? What are some key points for army building?

I want to collect Fyreslayers.

Should I wait for the updated Battletome?

>>52589427
To collect them? No

To play games with them? Wait for GHB 2

>>52589427
nah, go for it now. It'll take months to paint everything anyways so you might as well get a jump on the things you can while you have the time.

>>52589427
You don't need to. It will be using the same models. If anything start collecting them, paint them up, and start playing them to get the feel of how they play. Then when their new BT comes out you will be able to incorporate the new stuff better.

>>52589427
Get whatever you like the models of.
Also play hinterlands.

>>52583900
I'm with you. A Vanguard army is one of the main things I'm aiming on assembling.

I'd also like to go hard on Extremis Chambers at some point, too.

>>52589376
It really depends on which faction you play, but 2-4 objective holders, a hammer and an anvil is a great place to start in general

>>52589666
Just started Hinterlands with some friends... is amazing

anyone have a link to that website that lets you design your own warscrolls?

>>52589875
Hammer and anvil?

>>52589956
http://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>>52590035
Thanks friend

>>52590035
Holy shit this is great! Didn't know it existed. Bookmarked!

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>>52589427
What kind of person likes fyreslayers?

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>>52590138
Lot's of people. I like them. The fluff in their BT is pretty damn kickass.

>>52590166
Who the hell are those hooded people on the right stairs? Female Fyreslayers?

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>>52590166
>why yes I would like to collect an army of fat naked ginger midgets

>>52590204

duardin without the runes hammered into them yet

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is there anyone hyped for blades of khorne ?

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>Starting my Death army next week
>Current army isn't even done
Y-YAMERO

>>52590508
no

This is my planned list for 2k mixed death, any thoughts? What to do with the remaining 120 points?

Liche priest - 120
Necromancer - 120
20 skeletons - 160
40 skeletons - 320
40 skeletons - 320
Wight king - 120
5 blood knights - 260
30 skeleton archers - 300
3 vargheists - 160
1880/2000

>>52579197
why would anyone say no? Like are really desperate to win that you wont let someone play with slightly different rules.

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>>52590508
I'm only interested if it'll mention Hashut given that a previous book mentioned how Chaos Dwarfs built one of Khornes greatest forts

>>52590612
scrap the army and build one out of squig herders.

>>52590508
I don't even play them and my answer is yes.

I want to make a second army with the three bloodthirster formation at the minimum legal points level.

three bloodthirsters, two with artefacts, attacking during the hero phase and the combat phase. I think it will be very ugly.

>>52576089
pic?

>>52590612
I'd focus much more on 1 aspect of Death desu
>Skellingtons
>Zombies
>VCs
>TKs

That's a lot of bodies to move too for only 3 synergy models

>>52584428
Greatest idea in the world. That or throwing axes, but fuckhuge ones.

>>52589085
I think Ironjawz have a good chance--they definitely are the poster-child of the Destruction Alliance.

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>>52590657

>>52577902
horned rat?

>>52590794
they look nice. Like the hair

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>>52590794

>>52590237
paint them a different colour?
ive seen metal skinned fyreslayers with blue beards, they looked rad

>>52586950
>"deal"

>>52590698
How do you mean? The skellingtons are the main synergy buff, with lich, necro and king all buffing them. The blood knights and vargheists are more fire-and-forget, fast flankers and able to take care of themselves. I find the BKs are more tanky than killy, able to last the whole game in combat if need be.

>>52590508

>Start AoS with a Khorne army
>3 weeks later, new Khorne book

THE BLOOD GOD GRANTS ME HIS BOONS

Seriously though. I wanted to run a mixed daemon/mortal army, and it seems like that's exactly what this book is meant for. I'm hype as hell.

By the way, is there any major drawback to me running as many heroes as I can? I love all the hero models and want lots of them.

My reddit rat playing friend refuses to play objectives, but thinks that in a straight deathmatch would be physically unable to cause enough wounds to kill my guys. What can we do?

>>52591029

He gets the fuck over himself and plays objectives, since that's how the fucking game works.

>>52590525
>still need to paint 15 saurus guard, bastiladon #2, carnosaur #2, engine of the gods, slann
>still need to paint 200+ total skeleton infantry/archers/horsemen/horse archers, liche priest #2, tomb king on foot, tomb scorpion #2, chariots #4-9, warsphinx #2, 10 tomb guard
>2 boxes of morghasts
>warhammer quest
>an entire tau army
>just bought and built an entire stormcast collection (every hero and 2+ of each other unit except Stardrake)

HELP

>>52591029
play open play and make up your own objectives

forge the narrative son

>>52591029
kick his arse in a deathmatch then play a game with objectives and force him into a deathmatch again. keep kicking his arse until he learns his lesson,

>>52591127
That's what I'd like to do, too. Especially because his army allows for cool things (constant waves of reddit rats versus a small band of defending Ironjawz, for example).

>>52590621
The guy insisted I had to use the old Skarsnik model. I don't play against him much anymore

>>52591012

Same but only bought my stuff this last week.

Leaders
Saurus Sunblood (120)
- General
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160)
Saurus Eternity Warden (140)
Skink Starpriest (100)

Battleline
10 x Saurus Guard (200)
10 x Saurus Warriors (100)
- Clubs
10 x Saurus Warriors (100)
- Clubs

Units
1 x Salamanders (60)
1 x Salamanders (60)
1 x Salamanders (60)
3 x Skink Handlers (40)

Behemoths
Bastiladon (300)
Bastiladon (300)
Stegadon (260)

Total: 2000/2000

Im thinking this super shooty list for an upcoming tournament, its a change from my current aggressive list and Im not sure if its worth it. Theres a lot of shooting, but is it enough shooting to make it viable.

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>>52591029
God I hate reddit rats

>>52591609
>assuming all skaven players use Reddit
I actually know more sigmarine fags who use Reddit than I know skaven players who do the same.

>>52591648
So, I'm confused. Is it the same bloke who keeps posting this, or is it a nonchalant of them shitposting in union?

>>52591029
I feel you anon, theres a dude who plays the fucking most broken lists he can in my local and refuses to aknowledge losses he loses on objectives.

>I killed most of your units
>But I took the objectives, scored more points and won the game
>But I still won because I killed most of your army

It wouldnt be so bad except he brags about how many people he beats and how hes on a win streak without having actually legally won a game.

>>52590896
Also not forget to convert them to make them not fat, not naked, and to have beards instead of streams of vomit

>>52591701
Jesus fuck that sounds bad. How come nobody tells him to F off, if he's a twat like that?

>>52591701
are skaven player really this bad like i play them and i just accept defeat if it goes tits up.

>>52591701
Does he play reddit rats?

>>52591701
He doesn't even do that, he just accepts that he's going to lose every time instead of playing objectives, which he has a much better chance of winning. He doesn't seem to realize that I don't want to play an opponent who simply accepts that he has lost before playing.

>>52591740
I play skaven, and I'm not anywhere near that stupid. I play the game, I lose, then I lose, I win, then I win. I don't turn the game into a mosh pit, and I don't bitch about the opponent if I lose.

Can you all rate my list? Not sure on the artifacts for the leaders

Allegiance: Chaos

Daemon Prince (160)
- General
- Mount: Flying
- Axe
- Trait: Great Destroyer
- Artefact: Crown of Conquest
Daemonsmith (100)
- General
- Darkforged Weapon
- Artefact: Chaos Talisman
Chaos Lord On Manticore (300)
- General
- Blade & Lance
- Artefact: Favour of the Gods
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
Curseling, Eye of Tzeentch (140)
- General
- Artefact: Daemon Weapon
- Lore of Fate: Bolt of Tzeentch

Battleline
Warriors of chaos x20
Sword and shield

Warriors of chaos x10
Halberd and shield

Warriors of chaos x10
Halberd and shield

Fireglaives x20

Deathshrieker (120)
- General
Deathshrieker (120)
- General
Magma Cannon (140)
- General

Total: 2000/2000

The dragon price is the actual general with khorne mark and the lord is a tzeench marked.

>>52591767
Refuse to play him unless it's Objectives.

>>52591767
This is basically what I did the first time I played. I brought my 1000 point pestilens army against a 1k beast claw and made the error of moshpitting instead of going for the objective.

Haven't gotten a chance to play since because of school and work, but this summer, when the store starts up its league again, I think I get how to do this right.

Why is AOS shit so cheap on eBay? How do they get away with it?

Has there ever been an explanation in universe why Khorne worshippers have silly hats?

>>52592092
Depends what it is, a lot fo stuff is bought as part of start collecting boxes and sold for cheap.

>>52592092
Parting out box sets
Grognards selling thier old armies
Chinese recasts

>>52591590
2 Bastiladons is not ideal. They dont do enough damage for their 300 point cost and their defenses are at their best when they have mystic shield and the Skink Priest reroll save ability.

Your list is also very slow. You have nothing that can move more than 10" and you have no teleporting abilities.

Eternity Warden isn't doing much here. He adds +1 attack to the Guard but you only have 10 guard in a single unit, and it's tough to get all those 1" attackers in range. Hard to justify 140 points on this model.

If you want to be more shooty I would run a Starseer (reroll everything, even turn order, lets you get double shooting rounds)

You should definitely run a Skink Priest. Rerolling saves on your ENTIRE ARMY is insane.

-Eternity Warden
-Bastiladon
+Starseer
+3 Terradons or 5 chameleon skinks
+Skink Priest

You'll have 40-60 points leftover. You can either take more handlers (40) take the triumph table result, or bring another salamander (60)

>>52591716
Fat =dwarf
Naked = slayers

If you dont like dwarf slayers then you wont like fyreslayers

I like the beards, never heard anyone complain about them before

>>52592092
Supply and demand

Just started playing:
Khorne Bloodbound /Slaves To Darkness

Chaos

Mighty Lord of Khorne (140)
Chaos Sorceror Lord(140)
Bloodsecrator (120)
Bloodstoker(80)
Slaughterpriest (100)
-Hackblade and wrathhammer

Bloodreavers x 10(60) icon, reaver blades
Bloodreavers x 10(60) icon, reaver blades
Blood warriors x 15(300)
Icon, Goreaxe and gorefist
Chaos Warriors x 10 (180)
Mark of Khorne, halbreds

Khorgorath x 2 (180)
Chaos chariot x 1 (80)
Might Skullcrushers x 3 (160)
-Ensorcelled axes, horns, icons
Chaos Knights x 5 (200)

Total 1780

Assuming $$$ is no issue how can I make this list better?
Wanted to add a Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster, thoughts?
Also just accepting opinions too

>>52590000
Anvil is a unit that can take a lot of hits. And a Hammer is a unit that can destroy whatever is being held up by the anvil.

>>52593304
Also to add to anons point,
Make sure you get those units into the right positions.
Good anvil:
Chaos
1 groups of 20 chaos Warriors with shields and halbreds

Good hammer:
6 buffed mighty skullcrushers
These are just examples but you could find a good hammer and anvil in every faction or alliance

>>52593304
Is this really even a good strategy in AOS?

My experience is more that you want good tank units with lots of models to sit on objectives and survive punches to the face and or even better be able to shoot at things.

The other thing you need is to be able to delete stuff off the table. For me flying monster beat sticks do that job great because of their extreme high movement and fly ability.

I don't know if the old "hammer and anvil" combo is really so relevant anymore.

>>52593645
Yeah are, shooting into melee is really powerful and if you are running 2 meme cannons (hell cannons) and the enemy has 20+ models in a unit, you get 4 shots wounding on 2s for d6 moral wounds each, it's funny as hell

>>52593944
also not a hammer and anvil strategy so I assume you agree with me.

>>52592920
Hard to say

Wait for the new book to come out tomorrow

>>52594107
Fair enough

>>52593645
It can be an excellent strategy. Typically your anvil units can be your objective holders. Savage orruks and grots make good anvils provided they are buffed with inspiring presence so that while yes they will take hits and lose plenty of models, they wont lose the rest to battleshock. Anvils can even become pseudo-hammers themselves done right. Think Bone Zone. Skeletons are resilient due to death allegiance and being able to reanimate d6 skellies a turn. And when buffed right, become a scary as hell unit that can deal 90 attacks. Grots can become this way as well. Moonclan grots can do double damage on wound rolls of 6+ due to their command trait for the warboss, which on basic infantry becomes scary as you can get guys in 3 ranks deep that will hit on 5's but wound on 2+ with 4+'s being double damage. Buff them with bellowing tyrant if you took it and they hit on 4's.

Gitmob is scary due to the same reasons, but they get buffs to hit in general. Their rank and files guys can get +1 attack and bravery (which will be needed due to not having battleshock free grots) and with the shaman they get +1 to wound and rend -1. Thats now a bunch of grots that hit on 3's (if yoi have 30+) wound on 4+ with 2 attacks each.

Guys, I am going to have to say that this thread was relatively pleasant. It was nice not having as much shitposting or even slav in here. A lot of help was had and a lot was discussed. Well done.

This is the type of thread we can have if people just don't fall for slav shitposters obvious trolling. It's really sand when the guy knows he can get his daily dose of (You)s because too many fall for it.

>>52593972
No it's hammer and anvil use warriors as the anvil and the meme cannons as the hammers, really long range indirectfire hammers

>>52594512
aosg is usually really good

only time it gets bad is when mathfag, slav shitposter, and blood elf fag show up

>>52594512
Oh hold on I can fix that,

Enjoy your space marines with bolters.

Got you covered

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>>52592836
Slayers had pants.
And dwarfs aren't fat, except those who are.
I have no issue with this model; but anyone who has no issue with this >>52590237 should get out.

>>52594644
slav shitposter is the worst. I can recognize his style of posting. His usual replies. His baits. His broken english. His post formatting. His flawed logic. Him ignoring evidence and explanations.

He's tried baiting me several times, in which case i do not reply. It's sad so many others cant recognize it, or refuse to.

>>52594640
oh I got you. It isn't a traditional hammer but it does the same job.

>>52594644
>blood elf fag show up
>>52590794
>>52590826

he seems to have come and gone with no drama what so ever.

>>52594902
blood elf guy here. has everyone checked out my video? https://youtu.be/EQPfJahmt1A
t.engineer

>SCE from starter set + 2retributors, Venator, Questor, and foot Celestant

What should I get next? My opponents are meta-savvy so I want to compete with them.

>>52595333
from what I understand the most competitive thing to do is play the warrior brotherhood formation. I think that picking up some Dracothian guard, fulminators specifically, would be a safe move as well.

>>52594794
I really think he should be permabanned. He has never contributed to any discussion. He has never posted anything of worth. He is solely here to troll. Why a man who clearly has no other intention than to ruin the discussion for everybody is allowed to be here is beyond my understanding.

>>52595333
aetherstrike force with 12 + 3 vanguard raptors

>>52588730
Seraphon can rock that. You are limited in terms of total number of monsters, but you can rock minimum battleline and then welcome to Jurassic Park.

Any army with a monster can probably spam it though. Who doesn't love dinosaurs. Other armies have other sorts of monsters though.

I've just started playing but I'm happy my Lizardmen army is still valid.

>>52595402
>permabanned
That never solves it. There are several ways to get around it.

It could also be the mods just are not aware or dont give a shit.

Really to me the solution is not going to be a popular one on here, and puts me under fire user identifiers like the other boards have

>>52595426

Oldie on Carnosaur, Bastiladon and Engibe of the Gods a decent set up? I was going to run knights and warriors as battleline, maybe throw in skinks and kroxigor for flavor.

>>52595719
why do you need protection from the opinions of other people on the internet?

I'm willing to tolerate the occasional shit-poster to maintain this as a free place to have uncensored discussions.

>>52595791
Engine of the Gods is pretty bad in matched play. You have to pay points for anything you can summon, so sometimes you just get nothing from its unique ability

Use a regular Stegadon instead

>>52595803

The problem is the amount of anons who shit up the thread by responding to obvious bait.

>>52595816

Flame thrower or superbow?

>>52595825
This. So many respond to it that any possibility of discussing anything, or helping dudes out, gets completely drowned out. It becomes impossible to discuss anything outside of the baitwar going on.

When I notice a thread is barely a day old, and it's already at 300 posts, then I know exactly what is happening. But if a thread makes a few days before hitting max, like this one. Then that means slav shitposter is not present, which makes the thread workable. Shitposting still remains, just easily ignored or not as prominent.

>>52595791
I personally don't like the Oldblood on Carnos general ability(forgot the term) and I personally don't like the engine of the gods. Didn't even read its battlescroll. Gonna go do that now. That said there is nothing wrong with your setup.

>>52595840
I need to go read that warscroll too. I missed the flamethrower update.