ITT Cliches and tropes you're still a sucker for >The

Please, no frogposting on /tg/. Thank you.

>Eldritch horrors
>Humans beating eldritch horrors
>HFY garbage
>The whole theme of locations being corrupted and twisted and it's populace turning into monsters through their own insanity and debauchery
>A hero with a sword and shield

>>52563898

>A character that is extremely weak, unskilled, or childishly simple, yet extremely likable and/or loyal to the party, sacrifices themself during a crucial moment
>Their actions don't necessarily stop the BBEG, but create just enough of an opening or window so that the protagonists can accomplish the mission
>Nobody save the individual, and MAYBE the protagonists, are even aware of their sacrifice at the time that it's made
>The protagonists honor the individual as if they were one of their own because of their heroism, for without their actions the protagonists could not have succeeded

Every fucking time.

>Character busts out a new technique or form when things seem dire and turn the tables
I don't give a shit if it's an asspull, or a Deus Ex Machina, if it's done right, it's so fucking hype

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It's silly but I always put the old "small guy and big guy best friends" in my campaings, either as potential villains or as friendly recurring NPC's.

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>Character A is tasked with protecting Character B at all costs
>they fall in love
I don't care if it makes me a fag, I'm a sucker for cute things.

>Giant muscle guy who doesn't use fancy kung fu or powerful weapons, just hits shit really hard, sometimes with other shit
I don't care, I love it so much

>>52563898
>The civilized world constantly being under attacked by uncivilized beings
>A hero stopping the BBEG and securing civilization for another millennia
>THICC

>teaming up with an evil character/faction to combat a mutual threat

gets me every time

>MC is average at best, underwhelming at worst
>Nothing is expected of him, he isn't the chosen one
>Overcomes every odd through force of will alone
>Becomes a legend
Classic hero's journey done well makes my dick diamonds.

>main character(s) dies at the end but still defeats the bad guys, á la Rogue one
>the main hero defeats the BBEG but loses so much in the process that he commits suicide some time after
>main character gets their shit beaten by BBEG, but don't give up and still get to defeat the BBEG by a way or another

I like tragic ends, but unfaltering determination gets me everytime.

>>52564417
My brother of darker skinshade

>Hero is a repentant villain on a quest of redemption
>Hero settles down with love interest in a sleepy village where no one is the wiser of their identity and mentors the plucky wannabe-hero of the next story
>Supporting character is secretly a runaway member of the royal family
>Prequels where the villain of the original story was, at one time, a hero or (even better imo) anti-hero that defeated a greater evil and never changed alignments

>>52563898
>the ally was an enemy all along
>BBEG doing what they do because 'It's for your own good'

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>sucker for the lesbian princess and ladyknight meme, but despite being considered a gag-inducing cliche on /tg/ it hardly actually exists in fiction

>>52563898
>Plausible sexual tension between rivals
This is a thing between two gods in my campaign.
The god of war and the goddess of druids are completely at odds with one another. The reason the goddess of druids developed wildshaping was to help her followers fight against armored and armed men. Now, the god of war didn't take too kindly to that, so he developed an alloy that basically gave the finger to wildshaping/shapeshifting and gave it to the soldiers of the world.
She's short and quiet (she doesn't actually talk, using telepathy), he's fuckoff huge and prone to boasts. He's a son of the god of fire, she's a daughter of the goddess of water. His animal form of choice is a wolf, hers a rabbit. They're both very physically attractive to one another, but neither of them are willing to admit it out loud. The god of war has tried to resolve this by catching her and forcing himself on her as a show of superiority, but he's never been able to catch her. She intends to make him come to her and have him admit his feelings, and takes fun in taunting him.
It's like a divine version of Kaguya Wants To Be Confessed To, except with more violence.

>Giant slab of a man, usually drags his feet, seems slow about everything. Possibly a dullard.
>when shit hits the fan, this motherfucker is lightning

>>52564873
Sorta like sloth from FMA:B?

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>>52564022

>>52564918
I'd forgotten all about that dude. But yeah, kinda. But usually not to such an extreme

>>52564022
the frog is the heart and soul of /tg/

/tg/ is comprised entirely of /r9k/ tier losers except we actually hang out with our own kind irl.

I know it's the worst, but I still love a well executed morally grey BBEG

>>52563898
>Friendly Eldritch horrors.
Something about a cthulhu esque monster saying hello to his neighbor while picking up his newspaper just gets me

>>52564417
My fellow of melanin abundance.

>>52564809
I love this sort of sexy danger.

>>52564954
Wrong.

I have a girlfriend. Who introduced me to TTRPGs. With whom I roleplay. Both sexily and not. I hold a job and am the owner of my own LLC for my side business. Frogposters are scum. They mock the idea that we can ascend beyond what we are, and that we will never be more. They are the BBEG of the chans.

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>>52565351
That cool but we don't really believe you

>>52564186
MY nigga

>>52564417
My African american of bretheren

>>52564417
My companion of Nubian complexion.

>Old master comes out of retirement for one final adventure/job/mission
>Guy who acted like a total asshole at the start sacrifices himself for someone else
>Cults who engage in all kinda of weird rituals, preferably while wearing masks

>>52563898
>hiveminds and group conciousness
>Lovecraftian abominations from other dimensions
>ancient advanced ruins
>Not!AtTheMountainsOfMadness storylines
>sounds in space
>space battles

>Super strong old dude on death's door
>Takes one last stand
>Wrecks shit but inevitably dies

Never not hype

>>52565457
>Rolling and banking in space

>>52565471
>spaceship to spaceship combat
>ridiculously lound and crazy guns on saod ships
This shit gets my rocks convecting

>>52565471
>Drifting in space

>>52565374
And that is irrelevant to the point made Skippy. Even if I were a lossless virgin who never saw anyone but mother dearest, it doesn't imply that those who want us to wallow in suffering like themselves are not dragging us down to darker depths to simply further their own sadomasochistic goals.

>>52564805
I do dislike that trope for some reason, but I don't dilsike you for liking it, anon.

Old person in a line of work where people generally die before they're 35.

>>52565028
If they do that then they were never eldritch, just tentacle monsters or whatever.

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>>52565503
Wouldya look at all those syllables!

>>52565548
I gotta agree with you here, anon. Nothing kills my interest faster than an "eldritch" abomination reavealing that they're not so bad/are just like us.

>>52564417
I'm being obnoxious here, but in a /classic/ hero's journey, he'd be somebody special, the chosen one.

A "Prince" as Campbell puts it.

>>52564119
Oh man this is actually one of my least favourite tropes, holy fuck it triggers me.

>>52565555
Wouldya look at all those digits!

>>52565471

>Wings in space

They both make *some* sense, for rotational momentum on mav thrusters, and because you might have more thrust in your pitch or yaw axis than the other.

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>The BBEG has a small ensemble of elite servants/warriors/underlings, each of whom is characterized by a very particular ability or aesthetic choice.

Bonus points if one ends up falling in with the party because reasons. Double bonus if it's a romantic one.

>>52565590
I always describe it to myself with a simple houserule hidden behind the story plot:

>unlocking a new ability early in combat costs large chunks of EXP and is almost never worth it unless you're fucked anyways.

Honestly helped it make sense in every medium.

>>52565555
Wasted quads. Make a wish, I guess.

The hero gets with the princess (or female equivalent).

Probably the biggest cliche but its always something I enjoy reading.
Wheel of Time was a nice way of diversifying MCs and their relationships (but still had the princess).

>>52565555
Yeah look at that dumb fucker, using language to convey ideas.

What a shithead.

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>>52565843
>princess (or female equivalent).

>>52566049
probably meant the equivalent for a female hero

>>52566049
>Princess (Male)

I'm not sure if its a 'cliche' but
>Big buff warrior lady
>Ripped usually, tears through people with weapons/hands all the time
>Complete sweetheart, loves wearing pretty clothes, cooking, so on.

>>52565950
Don't pretend that people don't string together sentences like a thesaurus just to look smart. Not even saying that's what's up with in this case, but you know that's a thing.

>>52564266
the goon is the best example of that

>>52564809
Now this is the kind of worldbuilding I can get behind. A bunch of interesting details to the setting come from straightforward and understandable reasons.

>>52566070
As far as I can tell every goddamn girl on this fucking website, whether its a poster or an image, is a girl (male)! I almost don't remember a time when anyone remotely feminine wasn't just assumed to have a cock!

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>>52563898
>redheaded well proportioned qt 3.14

I am a simple man with a simple desire.

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>>52565843
>princess (or female equivalent).

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>>52564266
>>52566248

>>52565548
>>52565563
I meant friendly to a point still destroys the world or whatever the fuck it's doing but it gives a nice greeting beforehand.

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>The bard seduces the dragon and the party doesn't have to fight it

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>The oldest party member has to be dad-like to all the other party members

>>52565457
>ancient advanced ruins
bruh

>People of drastically different backgrounds and agendas had to team up for common goal
>backstabbing and secret objectives
>forcefully recruit shady character with necessary skills but no loyalty to any cause
>use that one as hatesink to diminish tensions
>form unbreakable bonds, even by rising conflict between their home factions

>>52563898
>buying time for the party to get away

This doesn't happen nearly as often in our games, though.

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>>52565555

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>the bad guy is doing it all for love.

>>52566592
couple months later the bard
gets a dragon egg from a terrified courier with a note "Your problem now"

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>>52566748
>tfw I know that feeling, bro

The main villain early on becomes a rival, becomes a tenuous ally, becomes a fucking bro
Gajeel
Viral
Vegeta

>>52564954
>the frog is the heart and soul of /tg/
dumb frogposter get out.

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>Sword-and-board fighters/paladins/clerics that use their shield as a second weapon
>Magicians that only seem to know spells that fit a very specific theme regardless of viability (the frost witch, pyromancer, walking tesla coil, etc)
>the hero or villain that ascends to god or demigod status by sheer force of will, mastery of their craft, strength of conviction, pure virtue, etc.
>brave, headstrong, well-meaning, but stupid character slowly becomes the calm wise man/woman over the course of their character arc
>little girl possessed by hyper-cthulhu spooking up the property
>the two-person buddy cop team that compliments each other perfectly
>characters that don't believe in objective morality when it's a literal fact in-universe

>>52564918
What a pain

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>a character has suffered catastrophic injuries/damage
>stands up
>continues the fight

also:

>immortal befriends a mortal
>mortal passes away
>immortal wishes they could have gone with them

Gets me every fucking time.

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>>52565503
Neat dissertation, professor

Big guy and slitle shit team up, inseparable and fight as one.

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>>52567120
>second one
Every fucking time.

>>52567042
>Magicians that only seem to know spells that fit a very specific theme regardless of viability (the frost witch, pyromancer, walking tesla coil, etc)
I love this and it really shits me off that it's rarely viable for players to do the same thing

>brave, headstrong, well-meaning, but stupid character slowly becomes the calm wise man/woman over the course of their character arc
Bonus points if they're the narrator
>>52567042

> "i reject your reality and substitute my own"-style unraveling of enemy's magical/duvune/otherpower
> lonely smoking while standing aside during the celebration
> "Is that not what you asked for?"
> "If you go there, you are on your own" - go anyway - NO RESCUE comes for them

>>52563898
A well done What You Are In The Dark moment always gets me.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatYouAreInTheDark

>>52567282
Something I like that's similar to this is the dark mirror thing, where the hero is shown to have suffered and be hurt in a way similar to the villain but refuses to go down the same path and does the right thing anyway. Bonus points if the story really highlights that your choices make you just as much as you make them.

An example of this is Harry Potter (pls no bully).

>>52565503
For a number of years now, work has been proceeding in order to bring perfection to the crudely conceived idea of a transmission that would not only supply inverse reactive current for use in unilateral phase detractors, but would also be capable of automatically synchronizing cardinal grammeters. Such an instrument is the turbo encabulator.

Now basically the only new principle involved is that instead of power being generated by the relative motion of conductors and fluxes, it is produced by the modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and capacitive diractance.

The original machine had a base plate of pre-famulated amulite surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings were in a direct line with the panametric fan. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented.

>>52567042
>Sword-and-board fighters/paladins/clerics that use their shield as a second weapon

That's basically how you're supposed to do it.

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>>52565843
>it's an Elayne / Seafolk chapter

>>52567326
>An example of this is Harry Potter (pls no bully).
Ewwwww, anon.

>>52567445
I was a just a kid I didn't know any better. Have mercy.

>>52563898
>Member of an always evil race / a demon partying up with the goods guys to do good.
>But has to hide the fact that they are part of said always evil race / a demon because they know they'll be imprisoned or killed if found out.

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>hero has completely met their match, even giving it their all they cannot win
>So they say fuck you and give it more than their all, to the detriment of their own perminant health, in order to triumph

See also: Rock Lee/Might Guy

>>52567538
*darth sidious-style voice* There is no mercy....

>>52567551
>was a traitor all along

>>52564022
Screeching about cartoon frogs is just as autistic as screeching about terms for antagonists. The thread has actual content to it, you don't need to get mad over the chosen mandatory image the OP used.

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>>52567575
im sorry

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>>52567282
>>52567326
Related to this, I love when the Hero is successfully pulling off what the villain failed at.

The villain tried and failed to do every with nobility and honour, but couldn't proceed, and ended up having to betray their own morals in order to accomplish their goal. And then the hero shows up and did everything they tried so hard and failed to do, and makes every sacrifice they made meaningless, because if they had just waited the hero would have done what they couldn't without having to sacrifice anything.

In summary:
> The final confrontation revealing a tragic villain who ends up going through a mental breakdown

>>52564498
Fucking quality taste. I mean Rogue One was eh, but sacrifice and determination are great. In a similar vein, I like protagonists that aren't well liked, or perhaps even shunned by society but do what's right anyway.
Wolf Among Us was absolute top tier for these tropes I swear.
>>52565463
related

>>52567674
Wolf among us was tubler-tier trash, shitlord.

>>52566294
It's the simple things in life, anon.

The one trope I seem to keep revisiting is a scientist/intellectual needing to protect or save somebody they love, and creating some sort of magnum opus in order to do it.

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>>52563898
>depressed and nihilistic character who has all but given up hope that there is even such a thing as 'good' in the world
>still willing to give it all for what they feel is right

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>>52567568
Quality taste, buddy

>main antagonist is polite and traditional
>very specific about the way things are to be done
>no personal grudges against the protagonists, perhaps even respects them for their abilities
>willing to sit down for tea/dinner/some kind of proper proceedings before a last stand scenario

>humanity manages to hold its own against technologically or otherwise quality-superior foes through utilitarian pragmatism, necessary discipline, sacrifice, and ruthlessness, and stubborn refusal to surrender in favor of suffering further in hope of avoiding defeat

>>52567781
This

>well mannered, and ultimately reasonable in discourse
>sees the point of view of the protagonists, and possibly even sympathizes with them
>continues on with his plan regardless, out of necessity and fatalism
>"we're all just actors on each other's stage, and this is my part to play."
>"It may be wrong, it may be right, but it is what I must do."

>>52564119
You can do this in Anima. If you don't have enough points to buy a tech but you have points you can do a power stat roll and if succeded the tech will work once until you buy it totally

>>52566547
>Eldritch abomination
>understandable

Pick-a one

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>BBEG is basically just some guy, his only claim to fame is that he's survived as much crazy shit as the protagonist

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>>52568092
Is a decentralized intelligence which operates on a child-like level of understanding and intellect technically an Eldritch abomination? Asking for a party member.

She mostly likes to indulge in mortal/flesh sensations when she's around the party, but she's also only something like three years old so she's probably going to get more inscrutable over time.

>>52568129
Holy shit Ulysses was bad written. Like Kreia or maybe even worse.

well seeing as nobody else has done it
>BBEG
ugh

Mentor characters walking into a fight they know they're destined to lose but do it to save the protagonist anyways

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>>52567417
>it's an anyone chapter
WoT is shit

>>52563898
>Mooks or jobbers that join the protagonists as typically unwilling aides, but eventually come to like and defend the protags.
>Innately evil races/characters that end up acting in the interest of the good guys simply because they like the group/protags.

>classic fuckboy pampered prince is actually a competent character and becomes likable without doing a complete character 180

>hero with a spear

>the soldier who is just a normal dude in a party of super powered heroes
>Isn't a greyed old veteran, just some peasant with a potbelly who was recruited and survived via mediocre skills, luck and cowardice

>>52563898
>Protags pretty, Antags ugly.
>Not killing the Antag cause it will "make you just like them."
>Rescued falls in love with the rescuer.
>Toku tropes, ALL OF THEM! Justice, love and friendship!

>>52566789
Having an actual dragonborn son or a big omelette. There really isn't a downside to this

>>52564186
Excellent taste, sir.

>Motherfucking ancient ruins full of magitek.
>Thieves' and Assassins' Guilds openly operating.
>Fantasy cities full of corrupt nobles and underground mystery cults.
>Barbarian raiders threatening the edges of civilization.
>Foreboding mountainous northlands.
>Weird one-shot henchmen or side-villains that show up just to be weird and memorable encounters.
>Cute monster race girls (and guys).
>Apathetic commoners that roll their eyes at the PCs' bullshit.

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>>52563898
>animal companions are the only truely loyal things in existance

>>52568479
>Thieves' and Assassins' Guilds openly operating.
>Weird one-shot henchmen or side-villains that show up just to be weird and memorable encounters.
>Cute monster race girls (and guys).
Bad taste is bad.

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>>52568519
>Stop liking things I don't like.
You showed me.

Enigmatic trader -of secrets, artifacts, whatever- that is too useful for the protagonists (the trader might work with horrible people) or antagonists (who could try to rob/kill them) to really bother

>>52568540
But this things are objective bad.

>a race is considered evil or otherwise animalistic, creating a stigma that it should be destroyed
>one idividual grows up in the shittiest condition possible, but overcomes it through willpower and luck
>rise up the social ladder, doing good deeds and being a total bro
>eventually learns of what they are and seeks to end their race's oppression (not Tumblr oppression, but genuine "you are all subhuman filth" oppression)
>fights the good fight in the name of equality for their blood
>finally proves their race as not being total shitbags, getting them accepted into higher society
>they end up dying to see this come to light, making them a martyr for not only their race, but for all the people they associated with

I'm a sucker for heroes who have to earn the trust of others because of their race, but end up proving that it's better to give them a chance if even one individual can break the mould. I barely ever see it done though, and even less so do I see it done right

>Jaded old man, ex-soldier/adventurer, joins the party to keep them safe/make sure they don't end up like him

Just rolled up a character like this

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>>52568597
>Memerable minibosses and henchmen are bad

100% certified shit taste, anon.

>>52563898
>BBEG
>frogposting

Ugh.

>>52569331
(You)

>>52565503
Words words words

>The Hero and Villain are at a point where they exchange casual small talk during encounters.

>a chef character who is fat and has a moustache
>the friendly rival eventually turns into a major enemy because he didn't want you to be stronger than him
>the protagonist dies at the end
>the villain is utterly invincible, except for a very specific weakness
>the protagonist never hesitates to kill, it's for the greater good
>the hero everyone looks up to actually has many flaws
>ancient race of evil beings awaken from a millennial sleep (see Pillar Men)
>the protagonist is slowly turning into the antagonist itself and has to fight a mirror version/the embodiment of the evil it represents (just like my dear Vicarius Filii Dei from 7th Dragon)
>advanced race who looks down upon the lesser races
>the BBEG was not the final boss. There was someone behind the curtains

>brothers adventure together and bond
>end up on different sides of a war

>>52564417
My Congolese compatriot

> the final fight involves using every single trick and ability the hero has learned up until that point.
> godmode: in the reverse of the order he learned them in, so he finishes the big bad off with his original iconic attack

>>52568479
>Thieves' and Assassins' Guilds openly operating.

I always got a kick out of how in the original Assassin's Creed, once you think you've finished enough of an investigation you just walk into the guild building, tell the chapter master what you've found out, then go smoke a few bowls in the garden while you wait for the all-clear to murder. Followed by a highly public display of stabbing. The assassins are all very casual about the whole thing.

Morrowind's Morag Tong are similar, but paid murder is completely legal for them so the police don't even care.

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>the rival group is a mirror of the PC group

Whether they just have the same jobs and skill-sets (but not the same relationships, which is why the team fails), or whether they're actually evil twins, I love the trope. Especially if they PCs realize they either have to "fight themselves" to win OR if they realize they have to switch partners, as it were. Whatever is the opposite of how they first attempt to beat them.

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>>52570134
>the volcano scene is just joseph's coke bottle launcher from the first episode on a much larger scale

>>52566667
Gotta love the team dad/mom trope

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>>52563898
>Villain thought he was doing the right thing
>Villain realizes he was not
>Villain realizes the consequence
>Villain breaks down and cry
>Hero decides to spare him
>But it is too late

> A killer, usually a hero or antihero, sworn off of violence is put in a situation in which they either have to be violent to save someone/something
> They kick everyone's ass, maybe save some people, and afterward you can see their heart break because they broke their oath

> Hero refuses to kill an enemy, even if the enemy begs or even if it ends in the hero's death, just to stay by his morals

>Quest to save the world

>Hero is too late to save father/king/mentor/wise old master/whoever, but as they die they reveal the secret plot twist/mystery of the universe/final lesson/whatever

>Bad guys with redeeming qualities

>Heroes with damning qualities

>Grim settings where there is clear evil, but "good" is a spectrum of grays

>Training montages

>>52564035
Metzen, what are you doing here?

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>>52573792
>Spectrum of Grays

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>>52568208
You take that back you damn dirty profligate

>>52564082
You might like this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WDRxtd-2dQ

> character in love with another character
> feelings are not returned
> first character sacrifices their life to save the second anyway

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>>52564035
>Humans beating eldritch horrors
Fuck this shitty meme

>>52569331
Someone already beat you to both anon.
You'll have to find another meme.

>>52569660
"How's the wife and kid?"

>>52574121
"Ill ask them, AT YOUR FUNERAL! Hya!"

Clang.

"Laura's great, actually. I wasnt a big fan of how much space it was going to take up at first, but having our own garden is actually really nice. Fresh vegetables really do taste better. HAVE AT YOU!"

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>Small, physically weak character winds up becoming powerful due to hard work and dedication
>Group of people from different cultures that hate each other work together and become friends
>Cosmic entities that used to be extremely evil, had a change of heart, and now desperately fight to atone for their sins
>Hero uses a clever trick to beat the antagonist instead of just hitting him with his sword
>Characters undergo a physical change in order to show an inner revelation (bonus points for sprouting wings)
>Antagonist is defeated by teamwork
>Antagonist is defeated by the power of friendship
>Stories which focus on a character who is never in physical danger, instead focusing on moral choices they have to make with regard to people less powerful than them
>NPC you repeatedly meet eventually joins the party
>Inter-species or inter-racial romance, especially between two hated enemies

>optimistic hero who is always upbeat, never seriously hurts anyone, and genuinely has fun doing what he does

>that one time the villain does something so heinous it makes the hero stop being nice

>>52574121
MANTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>Unleashing the inner beast
Get me fucking hype every time

The BBEG has two henchmen that are not that smart and act like they think the other is a total moron but deep down care for each other.

>>52571688
Y'know I never thought of it like that, but Joseph admits the volcano was an accident anyway so I don't know if it applies.

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>>52574461
This

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>>52574461
>>52574602
My nigger

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>>52564022

>>52566789
>>52568433
>having a dragonborn daughter to seduce

>>52566294
That's neither a cliche nor a trope. It's a fetish, anon.

And it's my favorite

>Once-villain becomes on-again off-again ally
>Character has one or two unexpected traits that put them in a very different position than they could have been
>Beastmasters/summoners
>Barbarians, both male and female, wear as little clothing as they can get away with
>Dramatic tone shift from dire/hopeless to the PC/PCs to assured and eminent victory partway through a BBEG fight
>All the major people the PCs helped along the way make an appearance to support the PCs during the final battle

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>A character, typically the rival but not always, strays from the path of good and is drawn or corrupted into evil.
>May or may not be redeemed

Character usually ends up as the big bad or the protagonists personal nemesis. Darth Vader in the prequel trilogy and Riku from Kingdom Hearts 1 are the two that introduced me to this.

It's also better if they were the chosen one or some sort of paragon.

>one of the protagonists companions is secretly the Prince(ss)
>extra points if they become the love interest

>>52564082
This seems nice. Never seen it in anything though, care to share some stories that did this?

>the group has a character that's insanely strong
>other characters have to work hard but that guy is strong from the beginning
>gets split up from the party
>constantly revered as the party's ideal of a powerful ally

>>52574796

Sorry, man. But pepe is officially a pro-Trump altright symbol now. /pol ruined it for the rest of us, so its time to quarantine the meme.

>>52565555
Damn nigga

>the one party member that's dead weight, but once things get real they're terrifyingly strong

>>52563898
>The various unrelated factions of the story unite for an epic final battle against the BBEG's doom legion

Our party tried to do this last campaign. We thought it was that kind of game.

Our cautious force-gathering cost us too much time and we almost lost everything. Half the human realm got destroyed in a giant explosion of dark magic, along with the entire coalition army we assembled, tens of thousands dead, the royal line and all high nobles wiped out, because we allowed our foe enough time to prepare and progress his ritual.

As far as wargoals go, at least we prevented the destruction of the world. 20/100, Bad End achieved.

>Victory at what cost

The heroes won. The world is saved. But at what cost? The hero had to sacrifice it all to get here, and is alone now.

>simple and brave

The tavern owners son. The blacksmith. The farmers. They are all arming up to fight against the evil. They arent special other then their bravery.

And my personal favorite

>simple desires

They didnt set out to be a hero. They wanted to own a book store. Settle down with a fine lady. Have a kid or two. But that can't happen. Not here. Not now. Not while the tyrant rules this land.

I especially love when these are combined.

>>52575268
Riku has some of my favourite character progression.

>Tired of waiting for the call to adventure
>Accidentally outruns it and is seduced to evil
>Realises his mistake caused by his "Main character" complex and atones by spending the second game being Sora's support from the shadows.

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>>52565555

>The most cheerful party member that's also the emotional support of the party is secretly the most depressed

Maybe it's because it's something I can relate to but I just love seeing characters like this

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>>52576441

It's a shame that the plot of the series became more and more convoluted as time went on, but the mechanics, music, and boss battles alone more than make up for it.

>>52567781
Makes me think of Elias in Person of Interest. That was pretty great.

>>52576015
Mobius FF at least did a parody of this, where the character described in the linked post sacrificed themselves to absolutely no avail because "the prophecy said the hero would lose a companion in this fight so if I die that makes you the hero."

>>52576032
Thanks Hillary

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>>52576032
>Letting the insanity of American politics ruin a meme for you
>Not rejoicing in the reclamation of a meme from the normies.
>>>/reddit/

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>the party consists mostly of teens/tweens, maybe a non-human animal or fae
>the rogue is a somewhat underhanded and greedy young adult who thinks he's smarter than he is
>thinks he's the leader because he's the oldest
>he's actually just as immature
>maybe a sad backstory

Swaine (far right) and Duster are my main examples.

>>52563898
>The heroes do their due dilligence
>The final battle looks not just winnable, but favorable
>The villain makes the big damn personal sacrifice and/or pulls bullshit willpower shenanigans
>And wins
>The remaining story is the heroes (and possibly a repentant villain) working to undo the fallout
>Not so much going up against an antagonist as picking up the pieces in the face of one or more pervasive problems

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>>52563898

>villain isn't actually completely evil, and it's mostly just propaganda
>the character that seems most like the traitor is revealed to really be the traitor only after an event where they have been redeemed
>nothing goes right for the hero and the final stand against the BBEG is pointless, but they sacrifice themselves to make enough of a difference to win in the end
>the story goes from low-level standard shit to extreme mind-fuckery by the end
>a single person faces off against an entire horde, and fucking goes to town

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>>52564539
>>52565261
>>52565403
>>52565431
>>52570037

Jeez, want to try to force it any harder with all that samefagging?

>>52564417
My anti-albino amigo

>strong guy and agile guy that always fight as a team
>melee fighters with weaponry and/or armor so heavy that they need superhuman strength just to wield it
>tournament arcs
>

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>>52566667
>>52572585

man I literally cannot stop playing the team dad no matter my alignment. inevitably they end getting me to pic related when they do stupid shit and I have to cuff them on the back of the head and fix their problems

>no chance of winning, every chance of dieing, still doing it cause its the right thing to do

>>52577563
Where has this been done?

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>>52564022
Try to fucking stop me

>>52563898
Forbidden knowledge/power that takes a severe toll on anyone who learns it.

>>52574461
My fucking niggah. I love this trope so much.

>>52565572

/classic/ is a shit board and isn't as good as it used to be.

>>52563898
>Villain's henchman switches sides when he realizes he was wrong or deceived by his boss.
>Socially awkward badass
>A character accidentally drops hints about his/her past, but says no more and changes the subject when pressed for details.
>When the hero is kicking ass so hard that you know it's too good to be true and something terrible is about to happen
>Non-evil "villain" whose goals simply cannot be reconciled with those of the main characters
>There's more to this ghost or monster problem than meets the eye. Put the clues together, and you can resolve the problem peacefully by lifting a curse or pacifying the restless spirit.
>The dude in super heavy armor still moves alarmingly fast.
>A climactic fight is won using a gimmick that was presented or foreshadowed much earlier.

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>Sword and Shield protag fights an evil dragon

>>52578574
Attaching Gurren Lagann to le ebin peepeepoopoo is an insult to every theme of that anime.

>>52564954

Man, unless you're from /r9k/ yourself, I don't think you understand just HOW loser those guys are. They're several levels above us.

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>>52564022
I will frogpost on /tg/
I will frogpost on /sp/
I will frogpost here and there
I will frogpost anywhere!

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>>52563898
>PC waifus getting fucked by Orcs AND LOVING IT!

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Small girl, big guy.

4u

>>52574086

That's how most of Lovecraft's stories actually end, bro. Read past the memes.

>>52568153
No, not really. An eldritch abomination is usually defined as being so utterly different that humans(or human equivalents) cannot grasp its reasoning and physical form, and the abomination is intrinsically at odds to our method of existence because of this. Your example is just a bizarre alien/spirit. If she was an actual eldritch abomination, NO ONE would want her around besides cultists/madmen, and she wouldn't be kind or even able to meaningfully interact with your party at all.

>>52576032
But the 4chan is pro-Trump

>>52579549
[citation needed]

>>52579561

Okay. Read his work and then get back to me.

>>52579549
Yeah, that's not true whatsoever(hint: Cthulhu getting smacked by a boat doesn't count)

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>>52576032

But we're members of the pro-Trump altright who like genociding greenskins and undead-identifying individuals via tabletop.

>>52576032
>altright
O-o-o-oh, so scary.

>>52579601

Read his actual body of work. Humans using science (or frequently fucking magic) to beat eldritch horrors is a lot more common than humans actually losing to them in Lovecraft. The problem is, you're more familiar with the memes than what he actually wrote.

>Cthulhu, the eldritch entity who was finally returning to life to drive humanity mad getting smacked by a boat and going back to sleep doesn't count

Why?

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>Undead/Zombie/Mechanical soldiers in a modern or setting with firearms
>Rags to riches
>Evil kings that must do what is needed and be viewed as damned but secretly is virtuous by making the hard choice
>Large scale land war
>

>>52579587
I highly suggest you do the same. Eldritch horrors are meant to represent the unknown, inevitability, and things that exist outside of human understanding. Defeating them misses the whole point.

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>>52564370
Something similar- Today's enemies are tomorrow's friends stuff I absolutely adore. Viral is a prime example.
Never really seen it in an rp though unfortunately.

>>52565351
>>52565503
You sound like a faggot

>>52579549
they don't really win though. They just sort of leave. You can't win against that. It's a cosmic safari and humanity is the penguins next to the lion enclosure. Sooner or later they're gonna kill us.

>>52579655
Actually, I've read his body of work, including his lesser known stuff. I can say safely that the only instance of a (semi-)eldritch abomination was actually defeated using magic was the Whately twin getting fucked by lightning. Also, the win-lose dichotomy never existed to begin with, because by the very nature of the Great Old Ones, "losing" to them in Lovecraft's stories would entail the entire planet fucking dying, so obviously that never happened.Most often, the protagonist went crazy or was severely shaken by the realization that the Great Old Ones exist/are coming.
>Cthulhu getting smacked and immediately reforming without a second thought and deciding to go back to bed is not "defeated" at all

>>52579561
>>52579601

>Be Cthulhu
>Get hit by a boat and sleep for aeons

>Be monster in Mammoth Cave
>Get hit with a rock and die

>Be eldritch abomination son of Yog-Sothoth, sorcerer and brother of an invisible monster vampire tentacle beast
>Get killed by a dog and have your bro destroyed by fucking scientists

>Be Deep Ones
>Get dynamited by the government

>Be Old Ones in Antarctica
>Get BTFO by your own creations

The list goes on and on.

>Be underground ancient evil creating a human-shaped stain on the floor
>Get killed by a homeowner pumping acid into your underground cavity


>>52579677

A pity Lovecraft disagreed, especially in things being inevitable. Being outside of human understanding, to him, didn't mean a white man with a college degree couldn't kill it.

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>>52566748
Oh yes

>>52579777

I'll add a few I remember offhand.

>Be advanced alien Mi-Go
>Get shrekt by motherfucking doggos and fail to catch more than one person

>Be inbred rednecks who've become teleporting monsters
>Get wiped out by vanilla humans

>>52579746
>deciding to go back to bed
>I-I wanted to lose guys

Old One pls.

>>52579795
This reminds me.

>a powerful evil still works together with the hero to save the world/city.

>>52579746

The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. Joseph Curwen gets straight-up punked with his own magic and killed again.

>>52579492
This guy gets it.

>>52578226
Dragon Age springs to mind, other then that not much.

>>52563898
>hated foes fighting each other
>new third faction shows up kicking in everyone's shit
>foes pause briefly, team up to put these newfags in their place, then return to going at it hammer and tongs

Bonus points if the first two factions are humans and the third is smug ayyys

>humanity is introduced to a new, sentient species and clashes or works with them
>lone human lost in new world with non humans
>humanity is a bag of dicks but wins anyway
>ebil proto-industrial bad guys win out against nature loving magic folx
>generally any cliche involving awkward interspecies encounters

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>former hero lost all hope for the world and everyone on it
>meets traveler that gives his all to make the world a better place
>never affects anyone despite trying his hardest
>traveler starts doubting himself
>something happens that puts traveler in mortal danger
>former-hero sacrifices himself to save the traveler because "You're the only person with a half decent heart here, and I know you'll put it to use."

>>52579838
>>52579746
>>52579655
You people always get the order wrong with this "Cthulhu went back to sleep because of a boat" meme.
It's not, "Cthulhu wakes up ahead of schedule, goes for a walk, gets smacked by a boat, decides to sleep again."
It's, "Cthulhu wakes up ahead of schedule, looks around, realizes it's way too early and the stars aren't right and starts sinking back into the ocean, then some assholes plow a boat through his head."

>>52580295
I still feel bad for Billy

>>52579777
>>Be eldritch abomination son of Yog-Sothoth, sorcerer and brother of an invisible monster vampire tentacle beast
>>Get killed by a dog
>>52579823
>>Be advanced alien Mi-Go
>>Get shrekt by motherfucking doggos

Are dogs the real elder gods?

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>>52565351
>being upset by a picture of a cartoon frog
>I'm mature! I have a gf and a job!
one of these things is not like the other

>>52579777
>Be Cthulhu
>Decide to go back to bed(not defeat)

>Be really ugly deforemed guy
>Not be eldritch abomination

>Be Wilbur Whately
>Not be eldritch abomination

>Be Deep Ones
>One group of you get shrekt, still rule the seas and are fated to live forever until the Great Old Ones return(Not defeat)

>Be Old Ones
>Be aliens, not eldritch at all

The list doesn't go on at all. Most of your examples aren't even eldritch abominations

>>52564022
If everyone with a frog picture was perma banned site quality would go up 300% over night.
I've been against this newfag shit from the start but I guess the era of decency is long over.

>>52580859

Nice post HillShill, now take a ChillPill.

>>52580329
Oh I never meant to imply that Cthulhu whent back to bed because he got hit by boat, more just the the two events happened at about the same time

>>52580834
God damn btfo

Hero of legend becomes BBEG after losing his lifelong hero companion and decides to Kill himself and take the world with him.

>>52580570
>Elder Dogs
Aaaaaaand that's going right into my next setting.

>>52579623
Holy shit, is that a 4chan City edit?

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>Everything goes to shit because somebody was nice to somebody else one time.

>>52580604
>i post frogs on the internet fir the purpose of making people upsey.
>i live a fulfilling life.

Pick one

>>52565471
MY favourite thing about Battlestar Galactica was the design of the ships. Those fucking side/front/top/etc thrusters so you can pull crazy manuavers just got me rock hard.

>>52564958
It's better than a bbeg whose actions are arbitrary, or justified by difficult to believe, unrealistic motivations/moral qualities.

>>52582962
Maybe anon is super rich living on his private island posting frogs. This brings me to:

>Incredible powerfull deity just likes to play harmless pranks on mortals.

Bonus points it the mortal changes into a better person afterwards.

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>>52568405
That's one of the things I always liked about Fire Emblem. By the endgame, you're fighting dark gods and warlocks using forbidden magic. And you've got heroes of legend, shape shifters, etc., But also a couple farm boys you picked up along the way.

>>52569685
I always hated the last one of those, if only because most of the time it seems like the author/gm is pulling it out of thier asses. If done well, I could get behind it though. I guess.

>>52564164
My bud and I do this constantly. I always roll a varient of a big bruiser, he's always a little sneak thief/rogue

>>52586040
Thoses farmers are often among the strongest too.

>>52579549
Most end with a Pyrrhic victory wherein the protagonists end up insane and incapable of living with the memories and implications of the event.

>>52580859
Its basically furries. Make a pepe board and see how quickly they all get banned.

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>>52586040
>The best non-Ike character in FE9 is a farm girl conscripted into the Crimean military
I kind of want to take Nephenee's background and make a character like her

>>52564417
You mean to say:

>Clean shaven town guard saves the day.

>>52565351
>I have a girlfriend
Well, i took the bait. guess i should go outside to think out my life

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>BBEG uses your gimmick better than you can
>Enemy party that mirrors your party
>4 generals
>Bad guy alliance

>>52563898
Fuck off, frogposter.

>>52565452
You need to tell one of the guys in my group that #2 doesn't work as well if the character is a total asshole the entire time.

>>52568511
>had a pupper that passed away while I was really young
>have a pupper that's not quite old but getting on enough in years that they cry when I leave the house
God damn it Anon, don't me want to kill myself, I can't choose.

>>52566592
I've done this told the dragon I was legendary dragon slayer, but ended after the dragon killed all the cultists and I jumped on it's neck and slit it's throat. It wanted the entire share of loot. Fuck that, I decided to go for it, turns out it was left with one health because cult leader had a dragonslayer sword.

>Also the story of how I actually became a certified dragon slayer

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>>52564022

>>52582250
What's the name of this manga, anonymous sire?

>>52597449
Nirvana from Comic Gene. It's not translated.

>>52565843
Rand gets three wives, because he is a Mary Sue who needs to get everything and still be depressed.

Fuck WoT.

>>52566292

You clearly haven't been on 4chan very long.

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>>52576032

>'ancient magical artifacts' that are actually the ruined / malfunctioning / broken electronics of an ancient high-tech civilization that died for reasons

>the whole masculine female / feminine male party dynamic

>dark past, but openly cheerful and happy on the outside.

>pretty much anything to do with Psionics, that shit was my jam. The only thing I don't like is the name, because it sounds too science-y.

>the antagonist surrenders peacefully when they know they're outnumbered and outmatched instead of trying to fight to the death

>on the other side of the coin, a character doesn't give up despite impossible odds and fails anyway.

>>52574461
It's even better when it happens to a 'nice' character who has been hinted at having an apocalyptic rage, should it ever actually be stoked.

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>Protagonists are flawed outcasts of society, most of them probably aren't even good people
>Come to rely on one another and learn the power of friendship over the course of their travels
>End up becoming heroes

>rejecting social norms that ensure good for every citizen but transform humanity in monolithic mechanism.
Equilibrium, golden age etc.

>Supergiant artificial structures with unknown function that exist in background but dont play huge role in the story, or completely misterious and unreachable.

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>>52564022

>Obvious fact that all npc know and is very important. Pc fails constantly to find out what it is because everyone thinks they are joking and digital databases designed by idiots.

>Supernatural powers that makes user weak and fragile physically

>There's a prophecy or legend.
>A chosen one will rise and do some shit.
>You are clearly not the chosen one, or one of many people to attempt these tasks.
>Through sheer determination or just being good you succeed.
>Basically kickstart the prophecy.

See: Morrowind, Dark Souls...

>>52594253
Ugh the enemy party that matches yours makes me wet.

>Powerfull narcotic that unlocks unhuman possibilities transforming the mind of the user
>Government and corporations trying to develop pure form that dont cause mental degradation
>Its not side effect. Its literally diferent point of worldview on drugs that makes people see The Truth on what is reality really are and with that knowledge comes power to change it

>Kingdom ruled by evil, cruel king
>He actually just demanding and he is only one who knows that danger awaits his people ahead and that they all die unless working on their limits

>Talking weapons
Optionally
>Talking weapons. Thats only superpower they have.

>>52579549
That is patently false

>>52600078
Holy shit this

>Long time ago ancient race ascended to a higher level of existence and leave behind trail of clues on how to do that

>>52600078
>Talking weapon is obviously evil and planning on betraying its' wielder
>The wielder can't seem to catch onto this

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>>52564022
go fuck yourself

>character always portrayed as weaker or less skilled/experienced than his enemies
>triumphs through cleverness or just possessing more force of will

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>>52566592
>that filename

>>52574577
Corey and Jacob?

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>>52576032

>>52578060

Fellow Party Dad reporting in. Every time.

Honestly I kind of love it.

>>52579375
I'm from r9k and I'm just lurking and wishing I had friends to do this stuff with. It seems fun. I got the three 4e books in high school and figured out everyone thought it sucked and had no one to play it with anyway

>Bad guy confronts heroes in some manner
>Good guy(s) confront bad guy in exactly the same manner at the end of the story

See: Powerpuff Girls episode Mommy Fearest.

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>>52600771
gotta make sure the kids turn out alright

wouldn't change it for anything

The promised hero actually dying just before achieving their mission and an average commoner finishing it for them

I don't know if there is a trope name for it

>>52586193
Yep, many do look like asspulls, but I, for one, really like to think "There was something more. This guy was jus a puppet. The end begins now" and shit akin.
See Asura's Wrath. Since the first time Asura dies, Chakravartin was pulling his strings. Hell, since millenia before it, with the creation of the Gohma because "The suffering this world has seen was all to choose my heir!".

>>52580859
>hurr durr look how much of an oldfag I am
Only newfags complain about newfags. If you weren't a newfag, you'd have known this already.

>>52567792
The early Halo series always gave me a hard on because of this

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>>52563898
>the villain's right-hand man is a hero who was corrupted by the villain years ago
>somehow he manages to overcome the corruption and turn against the villain, helping the heroes in the eleventh hour
>for his efforts he is mortally wounded, but is able to die with a clear conscience

>>52564417
My Samaritan of Sun-Kissed Superficialities

>>52564958
It's not the worst at all, as long as it's - as you say - well executed. There's a difference between an antagonist that's a perfectly genuine human being with complicated morals and "IN MY OPINION THE JEDI ARE EVIL"

>>52567568
>Might Guy goes Eight Gates
That scene and its affiliated flashbacks basically simplify my love for this trope, along with a heavy dose of feels

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>>52568411
2/10 made me reply

>The bumbling fool of an authority figure is revealed to be a cunning BBEG in the third arc.
>Power couple villains.
>Two characters reach an understanding and acceptance by fighting, and the loser doesn't resent his death at all.

>>52563898
>Bully/Jerk/That Guy is killed by greater scope villain

>>52600453
What if
>An evil possessed weapon that acts like a brain slug.

>>52563898
>DM pulls up art for a new character he's introducing
>95% sure it's cropped porn

>>52595505
That's even better, let him die saving the party while being an unbearing cunt

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>the bumbling henchmen was the true villain all along

or

>the downtrodden henchmen snaps and becomes worse that the villain they originally served

Fucking love that shit.

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>>52564022

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>>52565351
But muh hate speech

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>>52604901
Pic related.

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>When one mistake costs the heroes (or the villain) everything, their whole plan is destroyed because of one bad choice.
Even better when the big mistake was their first choice and everything since then has just been covering up that inital fuckup.

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>>52574231
>>Inter-species or inter-racial romance, especially between two hated enemies
>>52574014
> character in love with another character
> feelings are not returned
> first character sacrifices their life to save the second anyway

Christ /tg/ you disgust me

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>>52579405
>>52580604
>>52597289
>>52599952
>>52600667
>>52608696

>>52566082
my fetish

>best buddies who've known each other since childhood are borderline but not quite gay, but also you can't confirm that they're not gay

>>52563898
>A choice between someone or something very important to you, and everything else.
>"Which shall you save?"
>"Both"

Best answer: Both, but not as the result of a third option

>>52586040
As cool as FE Genealogy of the Holy War is, the near complete-absence of what you described slightly drags it down for me.

The entire premise of the story is based around special nobles with god-blood in their veins dictating the fate of the continent, and how everyone else is nearly powerless in the face of divine lineage. If the player somehow screws up and ends up with Holy Blood-less substitutes in the second generation, what little character traits they possess revolves around their insecurity.

I guess it's okay though, because on the other hand, it sets out to tell a different story that resembles a relatively mature mythological tragedy that no other game in the series quite reaches. That and Thracia 776 gives us a cast that's almost nothing but regular, non-special humans in a lower-scale conflict.

>>52612695
I wanted to mention something along those lines.

>selfish, greedy character with bigger goal in mind
>he finds himself party to work with
>his companions change him
>just as he is about to get his hands on the prize, he notices that his friends are in extreme danger and need his help
>he forfeits the prize, possibly forever, to save his family

Bonus points that one of my characers is on step 3. already.

>>52604901
hnggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VdcMWWh3s0