Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52554980
They pump-a-rumed and pickle-peed a lot

>>52554952
>>52554944
Well, I'm not saying they were ENTIRELY wrong - Pathfinder buffed most other damage dealers as well. They just went way overboard with it while overloading boosts and stances. ToB had like, two stances that increased your damage, and both were something like 1d3 extra. Compare that with PoW.

It was a terra cotta monk that crawled on the walls and sniffed out traps.

>>52554980

Aren't Tengu just a race of Varisians?

>>52555040
yeah dude, you're right, 33d6 x3 strength damage at level 5 is just going overboard

Its not being literally fucking retarded and not even running the most base of math.

>>52555085
You say that, but Varisians don't really ever seem to steal in-universe except for a specific organization.

The thought occurs Varisians kind of have no identity at this point, with how widespread and civilized they are. There's the occasional mention of caravans, but really, Paizo seems to have forgotten about them.

>>52555137

Paizo has begun to forget about a lot of their world, is seems to me like they're actually winding down with developing the setting and switching to Starfinder.

They forgot about Absalom when Varisia got two APs in a row, and then they forgot about Varisia when Cheliax emerged as the next big thing. Now it seems as though they're focusing on the Lake region, which makes me believe they're going to make another Mythic campaign dealing with the Whispering Tyrant, Tar-Baphon.

Got a question/challenge, what are good ways to increase unarmed damage?

I am feeling a bit sad over this because it seems so difficult to pump up the damage to match that with a two hander. Even then, when you are TWFing with fists, your attacks become inaccurate and ruins the point

>>52555191
Dragon Style

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>>52555183
So when's the "Fuck it, let's wake up Rovagug" AP at this rate?

>>52555206
But Age of Smegma exists.

>>52555191
Is "TWFing with your fists" even an option? I didn't think it was...

>>52555191
Pre-errata Pummeling Style lets you deal flurry damage as one big lump sum rather than as individual pieces.

Also, Dragon Style and Dragon Ferocity are badass (unless you went for Dex over Str). Better yet, go Master of Many Styles, dip Warpriest (Sacred Fist) to get your flurry back, and do both.

>>52555230
Flurry is basically innate TWF

>>52555230
you can TWF with fists

>>52555183

When was Paizo's last great push to expand their world and make it seem both alive and vibrant? Was it really as long ago as Inner Sea Races?

>>52555206

Next AP is dealing with Azlant and (probably) the Spire Elves, which are one of the last great mysteries unexplored by AP or Adventure.

There will be three more APs before that, methinks. One dealing with Tar-Baphon and focused on Mythic, one dealing with Runelords, and one dealing with Taldor. Then we'll see Rovagug.

>>52554954
I didn't say strikes, just everything maneuvers. Strikes, boosts, counters, stances, anything under a discipline, bump that shit down to d4s.

>>52555312
Yes, and that still hurts (standard action)strikes more than just ignoring them and full attacking with boosts and stances, because what you deal with your greatsword with no maneuvers attached will still stay the same.

>>52554980
I want to make a Large humanoid. How do I do this without being stupid?

>>52555191
Style feats make unarmed a good option. Outslug Style for reach and more damage. Pummeling Style for pounce and melee clustered shot. Dragon style for 1.5x Str. Boar or Jabbing Style for more damage dice. Brute and Panther Style for more attacks, albeit situational.

>>52555370

Are you the DM working to make a PC, or NPC?

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>>52555370
Ask your GM to let you play an ogre very nicely.

>>52555411
Nope. Player trying to play something different.

Lysander and Bonbon are getting their intro session tomorrow! Nobles and parties abound while trolls lurk!

>>52555527
No one cares Vult.

>>52555527
Wait what's the actual schedule of this game, two players haven't been introduced yet?

>>52555527
>trolls
that troll x cashmere erp copy pasta will need to get amended

>>52555560

It's every other Thursday, but due to schedule fuckery Vult is doing two by two, with Sigmund confined to being introduced via an IC channel.

>>52555542
That means the psy-op is working

>>52555370
Buy a casting of Polymorph Any Object on yourself.

Alternatively, play anyone with abilities to get ripped with:
Anyone with Enlarge Person on their list (every arcane caster or alchemy user plus a domain).
Psychic Warrior for Expansion or any psionics user with the feat that lets you grab a power (this one can be augmented to 10min/level unlike Enlarge Person).
Synthesist Summoner who takes the Large evolution can be Large all day.

Unarmed fighting style has always been suboptimal, but people here say Broken Blade is well, broken, how so?

>>52555370
Grab the advanced race guide and construct one to your tastes.

>>52555712
Because it can be used with weapons

>>52555630

Did he really confine sigmund while others get to do minisession stuff.

Is it going to remain this way until vult gets to rape gloriana since his first attemlt failed

>>52555712
Weapon group adaptation a greatsword into Broken Blade

Enter pugilist stance

activate bronze knuckle boost

use steel flurry strike

3 attacks with a -2 modifier

Each strike will deal 8d6+str, and because you'll have a high bonus for all of them, because you use your full modifier with a -2 adjustment

this deals 24d6+x3str

Be a vigilante Stalker with accomplished sneak attacker and get the first turn in.

Add 3d6 sneak attack three times, for 33d6+x4.5str damage.

AT LEVEL 5.

An unarmed character would be dealing 30d6+x3str, and could take greater unarmed strike instead of WGA, to deal 30d6+4.5str

>>52555748
WGA adaptation just makes an already ridiculously bad situation slightly worse.

>>52555712
It has a fairly large power spike very early to make unarmed on par with weapons.
Then people take traits and such to apply those bonuses, meant for unarmed/natural weapons to scale to regular weapons, and use regular weapons which leads to massive bonuses.

>>52555750

It's hardly that insidious, I think Sigmund's player is going to be busy this weekend so Vult can't exactly do a session with him, and since Lysander/Bonbon and Gloriana/Cashmere are already paired off with intro sessions they just decided to roll with him joining the group through IC Channel stuff.

>>52555370
>How do I do this without being stupid?
You tripped up on the sixth word of your post.

>>52555787
what a disaster.

>>52555712
Actually the biggest issue with Broken Blade is that it was balanced(and I'm using the word very loosely here) around unarmed attacks, but you can use it with weapons such as greatsword thanks to weapon group adaptation, not to mention that Paizo has since released better weapons compatible with broken blade without the need for WGA. If you use it with plain 1d3 unarmed strikes, it's "merely" a bit too strong instead of completely broken.

>>52555750
IIRC Sigmund's player volunteered for the solo session.

>>52555803
no its still fucking retardedly strong

3d3+27d6+x3 str IS STILL RETARDED DAMAGE FOR LEVEL 5

>>52555801

Not really? He's doing just fine posting in the IC Channel, and Sigmund's player insisted Lysander/Bonbon be the pairing since Sigmund going solo made more sense than either Lysander or Bonbon.

>>52555818
Yes, if you take the absolute best maneuvers and use all of them at once.

>>52555842
>just shoot yourself in the foot and now you're not too fast, see?
>>52555370
Just grab anything with the Growth domain.

>>52555630
Its going to be every other week after intros. Bringing in Sigmund through the ic channel means the whole party comes together faster

>>52555842
How does that excuse the discipline in any way? "Oh, there are broken as shit option but just close your eyes and don' t use them" is not good design.

>>52555842
You're right, and if I just pretend the bad things about something don't exist, its good!

Holy shit! Everything ever made is good!

>>52555818
Thats assuming you hit with all your attacks no?

I am in a gestalt game and right now i am hitting at like...

+12 attack, 2d6+12 damage at L3 using my current build, just one unarmed attack, no TWF yet or anything

I was wondering if I am being pessimistic when I think this is a bit disappointing and that I am actually wrong and its actually good against CR 5(Gestalt, so benchmark is against PC Level + 2 CR)

>>52555913
+12 attack at level 3 on a highPB usually gestalt character is fine, and those attacks will likely hit.

>>52555913
How? I feel like I'm doing shit compared to that, even with gestalt builds.

>>52555913
This is the difference between theory and application, God knows I've made tons of builds that by the book seemed incredible but put into practice did diddly squat.

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Is chaika-anon okay? Did we bully him to hard? He hasn't been around recently.

>>52555948
"broken blade isn't insanely overpowered, i can just claim its attacks will not hit, even though they almost certainly will because its literally three times the attacks of a normal martial at the same level, and statistically like 2 will hit because cr5 enemies have like what 18 AC

>>52555981

They're as gone as Fennec-anon.

>>52555934
Sanguinist Medic 3 | Tripod Machine Martial Artist 1 + War Scholar Monk 2

Attack: +12 (+3 BAB, +5 Dex, +1 Chosen Weapon, +1 Insight, +1 Pain's Gain, +1 Enhancement from Gloves)

Damage: +12(+5 Dex, +4 Wis, +1 Chosen Weapon, +1 Pain's Gain, +1 Enhancement)

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>>52554980
I love strix but never get to play one.

As an aside, what is it about rabbits that makes us consider them inherently heroic? Two of the LoBaF PCs have rabbit familiars.

Does being memed by /pfg/ correlate to higher acceptance rate in /pfg/ games? Would the negativity or positivity affect that rate? Not asking if getting memed increases chances, but rather if the two qualities might be related to the presence of a potential third quality, such as the app's art, writing, build, shilling or others.

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>>52556068
Less slutty/cute version.

I know you deviants are into fully-clothed girls with breastplates and armor skirts.

>>52556075
>Does being memed by /pfg/ correlate to higher acceptance rate in /pfg/ games?

Not really, DHB has been memed since October and he almost never gets in.

You might expect high quality from some players and fun quirky builds from others, but by and large it's just idle prattle.

>>52555981
Sometimes there's just nothing to post about, senpai.
>tfw upcoming session is going to be nothing but dealing with loot, shopping, and RP for the trip back home

>>52556075
There's definitely correlation, and I think it correlates somewhat with app quality, but also with luck. The thing about memery is that it only takes two or three people to legit like it for it to begin snowballing, and any app that isn't lucky gets left behind. The same app at different times might not get meme'd.

>>52556095
DHB might be an outlier, hence my comment about "negative memeing". It may not be the case where all publicity is good publicity.

>>52556095
DHB got into two games in a row.

>>52556075
I think memed apps are memed because they stand (for good or bad) out to begin with, desu. Quality and QUALITY causes meme, not the opposite.

>>52556087

I wanna pinch those chubby cheeks!

To answer your question, Hares give +4 to Initiative, which is kind of a big thing in Pathfinder and especially PFG campaigns (As my main man Viper would say, Speed is Life.)

Hares are also fluffy, gentle and eager to fuck.

>>52556075
>caring about memes
fucking normies

>>52556118
As we see, good quality gets in and GOOD QUALITY does not. You have to have something worthwhile for people to take you seriously.

ReviewAnon savaged Vorelira, Brejik and some others, and gave lots of pointers to Rory and Rinka.

We know which ones got in.

Gamze was an upset, though.

>>52556095
I wonder if memed pairings (Etan-Rubio, Casimir-Valeriya) fair better than lone meme characters. Have any of DHB's characters ever been in a meme couple?

>>52556105
>>52556118
So the "success rate" and the meme-ability depend on a level of quality, but also on standing out from your peers in a way that promotes people talking about it? I can see that. Though this does raise the question of "what is quality, and what is QUALITY?" and if one can simultaneously possess both.

>>52556124
They are the cutest.

I might apply to a game as a bunny knight.

>>52556068
You sure? They arent inherently heroic per se, if anything the stereotype is that they are tricksters and often timid and cowards

I think they were chosen because bunnies are cute though

>>52556087
Funny how I admit that is true for me

I always find it odd if knight or warrior girls are wearing KMMO armor instead of practical yet elegant armor

>>52556153
On the other hand, Ulfric got a glowing review but didn't get in.

>>52556172
I could suspect that it does. It creates a level of similarity to dual-apps, while being flexible enough to not need the two as a pair. Memeing two apps into a couple could make some GMs think of greater RP interactions from the party, and therefore more likely to pick them in an RP heavy scenario.

>>52556172
>I wonder if memed pairings (Etan-Rubio, Casimir-Valeriya) fair better than lone meme characters.

This only happens if the meme pairing builds off the personality and character development of the other. For example, Rubio desires to be a hero and Etan desires to be a hero too, even though he's a LITERAL ANIMAL. This can be seen as building off each other. Casimir and Valeriya are two individuals who can comfort each other over past regrets and traumas, which makes for good character interaction.

>>52556153
Was either Shizuka ever reviewed? She was kind of low-key no matter which group you were in.

>>52556225

Reviewanon did not exist until Dragons.

>>52556153
>Gamze was an upset, though.

The thing to remember is that my opinion is likely very different than the GM's. I don't have any mystical insight into how to get accepted, I'm some random asshole that enjoys dissecting characters.

I disliked Gamze because (from my perspective) she was little more than a moeblob, and certainly not a well-rounded character. The GM either disagreed with my assessment, or had different priorities when picking slots.

>>52556216
>RotJR's runner-ups also had a lot of compatibility with winning apps, but didn't get in because of schedule
Maybe it does matter?

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>>52556185
How do you feel about a cute dress + armor?

>>52556247
You also didn't like dogmaid, dog-autist, or genderswapped Alex Jones, yet somehow liked operabitch.

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>>52556262
Even more ornate edition.

>>52556253

I mean, there's a real good chance of it!

Who were the runner-ups that had a lot of compatibility with folk who got in? Shizuka and Onryou?

>>52556172
It probably helps since it makes the DM consider the broader ramifications of inter-character interactions, but it doesn't help a poor quality character. An A+ ship isn't going to save a shit app, just like a lack of a shiip isn't necessarily going to sink a quality app.

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>>52556193
There will never be one of Ulfric's line to enter a game on my watch.

>>52556153
The only thing Reviewanon said about Rinka that I changed was the formatting of her backstory. He did not give me tons of pointers

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>>52556269
Friendly reminder that Streamer-chan D.Va got into the weekly Group A but operabitch got second-stringed into biweekly Group B.

>>52556262
>>52556279
Even better!

For the record, I do play SV, I am just sad I never got animated Aurelia among others

>>52556172
Kyras x Milre started out as memes but has clearly evolved to being semi-official, what with the blackknightposting and blonde speargirlposting we had earlier in the week.

Memepairs are better than dual-apps because they feel more organic and tend to have more effort put into them.

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>>52556153
>good quality gets in and GOOD QUALITY does not
>cites ReviewAnon's savagings and Rory as an example
>mfw remembering how many positive reviews the reviewanons would have in general
>mfw a good review was given to THAT FUCKING CAT
Really niggles my noodle

>>52556172
>>52556216
>remembering all those OG pairings that didn't make it in
now that just hurts

>>52556235
False, there was a Reviewanon around the last week or two of RotJR, even if he was not specifically NAMED "reviewanon". I know this because Etan+Rubio was going to be a double-feature review for some reason, but the guy flaked before doing it. Then they both got in.

>>52556235
There was a flurry of reviews right before the RotJR deadline, but the whole slate of apps weren't reviewed.

>>52556298
I think it can help a poorer quality app sneak by, but it definitely doesn't make up for it. I would guess that pairings have a major effect on success, even if it's thematic like team roar.

>>52556291
Looking through the archives, it was Shizuka, the Dhampir bookworm younger sister of Ameiko, and Silvia, the awoo paladin who needed to know what love was.

What's wrong with e Trove II link? It's only taking me to a campaign setting folder now.

>>52556307

I don't remember D.Va's boobs being that big!

>>52556269
I never commented on dogmaid. (Though I did predict she'd get a slot)

I despised dog-autist on a personal level, but had no complaints when looking at it objectively.

Alexa's only submission was a shitty and effort-free meme post. I'm not omniscient, I can't make predictions based on private conversations the player had with the GM.

Noel is a well-developed character that perfectly fits the tone of the AP.

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>>52556321
I really don't like the pairing memes. They don't feel organic at all when you have a bunch of autistic anon's screetching on who should fuck who.

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A player posts this as the character image for his Ranger.

In your heart of hearts you know cleavage armor is impractical. What do?

>Matt from Two Best Friends is often called McMuscles
>He's a fat balding short guy with zero definition

What are some other examples of names or descriptions of PCs, NPCs or even monsters that don't live up to the hype, or directly contradict it?

>>52556375

>They don't feel organic at all when you have a bunch of autistic anon's screetching on who should fuck who.

Amalthea and Casimir felt organic.

>>52556384
>ranger
>cleavage armor

that is clearly a male bard, anon

>>52556392
"I like it" does not equal organic.

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>>52556384
>A player posts this as the character image for his Ranger.

I don't mind because character art isn't always indicative of the armor they actually wear, and by the fifth session they're usually wearing something new anyway!

>>52556410
And "I don't like it" doesn't mean unorganic.

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>>52556363
>Noel is a well-developed character that perfectly fits the tone of the AP.
But not good enough to make the A-team over Streamer-chan D.Va.

>>52556392
Fat people named Slim
A big guy who has a name that starts with "Little"
Just the most common ones

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Beep beep just posting blonde speargirls.

>>52556375
Oh, dude, of course. The thread's been trying to get characters cocksleeved for half a year now, but if anybody listened to /pfg/ on how to play their characters, we'd never get anywhere.

Like, while Kyras x Milre is cute, it's not like the thread can set this shit in stone. It's going to depend on who gets in, and even then, it's not like they're a guaranteed thing.

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>>52556438
I too like lancergirls

>>52556424
The A team is the meme team with 2hi

She was saved

>>52556424
Considering the "A" team has 2hu's abomination of a character, that's certainly the better option.

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>>52556321
Honestly, I just like throwing oil on the fire that is /pfg/.

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>>52556456
You sound frustrated. Care to talk about it?

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>>52556448
My fellow tribesman of Nubian descent.

What /pfg/ apps/characters have blonde hair and use spears RIGHT NOW?

>>52556384
I tell the player through NPCs that I think her character is a really fabulously attractive man with an eye for fashion, and make her blush.

>>52556442
I think that while being paired helps the success rate, I don't think it means that the pair will be both together in the game. I think it leads to people thinking about the characters in a more dynamic sense, with them interacting with other things, instead of in the vacuum of their roll20 app page. So GMs might be thinking of how it goes with other characters outside of the pairing, even if they only reached that point because of memes.

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>>52556438

Are you trying to make a Valkyrie, anon?

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>>52556461
Me too.

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>>52556475
Well, it's not right now

RIP ;_;

>>52556375
Do you think that, for example, Seht's character is going to actually stick with Shayliss just because we screech about /Seht-Shayliss/ though? If players want to inform their choices off of shipping done here, that seems fine to me, it's up to them to make sure it ends up being organic instead of forced.

>>52556417
>>52556392

At the end of the day it makes it into a popularity contest on here, and it's always the same 2-4 applicant's per game that get talked about constantly because people want to lewd their characters. It's not good practice for the other applications.

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>>52556505
Wh-Where is her underwear? Is she nopan?

>>52556075
Other anons have already mentioned that sometimes an app gets memed because it's already good. But I'll note that in some other cases, a weaker app getting memed will improve the quality of it because it brings it into discussion. I'd wager there is a correlation between memes and acceptance, but I'm iffy on causation.

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Did someone say chocolate blondes with TWO LANCES?

>>52556513
Honestly, I think the thread's been pushing Seht-as-stud way too hard. His appeal is that he's not really a master of romance, so him shacking up with *anybody* without a decent arc to support it seems forced.

>>52556384
So that's what an archerdin looks like.

>>52556475
Cecilia Ayers will probably run a trident or a tiger fork. Until she can reasonably afford an ioun+wayfinder and go Urumi.

>>52556384
I deprioritize them on account of weeabooness.

>>52556326
And look what that's gotten us, anon, Eiffel tower memes

>>52556475
Eh, I once made a lance/shield bro for a meme game, but he had black hair.
Sorry

>>52556529
I'd say that it's pretty hard to deny a correlation between memeing and acceptance, but yeah, the causation is really foggy. The pairing thing might actually just be a discussion thing that gets people, and importantly the GM, to think more about characters. It's also worth noting that there seems to be a few upsets per game, but usually no more than 1, maybe two on large parties, so even this correlation isn't everything.

>A team has 2hu
>B team has Vult
>Voip is doing all the posting of infowars memes
Which is better?

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The eyepatch is the most erotic part of the waifu.

>>52556548
I never thought about that. Good call.

>>52556562
Disregard weaboos? You're gonna have a bad time on /pfg/.

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>>52556492

What characters seem to have good potential character arcs, anyway? Most of them seem to be AMBITIOUS or GREEDY.

DHB's character seems to have a good goal of making amazing food, and I can kind of see Slow's guy coming into his own as a holy knight of the three churches of Brevoy, but what is Franze's arc, or Kyras?

>>52556442
Meant to also tag you to this one, >>52556519

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>>52556523
Who knows!

Maybe they can overcome their rank E luck.

>>52556578
Who are the big upsets of the last few memegames?

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What are some characters you'd like to play, but haven't gotten the chance to, /pfg/? Any sort of narrative or mechanical element you've been wanting to try?

>>52556424
The B-Team has played weekly twice, the same amount as the A-Team. Fuck right off with your fiction-pushing.

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>>52556605
You're gonna make it. We're all gonna make it.

>>52556546
>so him shacking up with *anybody* without a decent arc to support it seems forced.

Everyone's getting a relationship arc in SotJR, it's actually really fucking cute. Casimir and Valeriya seem to be doing a slow burn as they reveal secrets to each other (which is totally intimate,) Corwin hasn't even started crushing on Ameiko, and I haven't even heard of the things Onryou and Seht have done.

Spoilering because it's game drama.

>>52556545
Gee Billie, how come your father let's you have TWO lances?

>>52556592
>Kyras finds a place to belong among new friends
>Builds a castle (figurative or otherwise) to attract others like him
>Spits in the face of Brevoy's power structure by elevating commoners
>Either turns face and becomes the peoples' hero or doubles down on being a heel and makes himself Brevoy's worst nightmare

>>52556617
>Any sort of narrative or mechanical element you've been wanting to try?

I want to play an actual mounted knight.

I want to play an ex-bandit-turned-paladin.

I want to play the guy who's role is to die and make everyone really sad because of it.

>>52556617
Centaur Cavalier Charger. But no one lets me play a centaur x.x, even a version without the advanced stats.

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>>52556620
I sure hope so.

>>52556617
I have some dexfagging/singing tactician lance-aboo that I want to play, but it needs to be gestalt to get it to work well.

>>52556648

>When your left boob is larger than your right boob

I know that's the case for many girls, but this seems a little much.

>>52556646

Try asking more people, especially /pfg/ DMs!

>>52556620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gKf7RtrUys

>>52556546
And that seems to be the way Seht's player has been running him as far as I've seen. In fact I don't think any of the characters have even begun to move in the direction of a romance arc.

>>52556617
CE character in a heavily good party. My regular DM bans it as a rule.

>>52556608
Dragons2
>Literally everyone besides Calsci and Aurora.

Hell's Rebels
>2hu
>Alexa Jones
>some apps people liked not getting in

PLD
>nothing, it's a shitshow

RotRK
>DHB losing his slot due to scheduling

LoBaF
>last minute memes not getting in
>DHB finally getting a game, as a reverse trap

Sound about right?

>>52556680
Honestly, who expected Rubio in RotJR though?

>>52556660
I'll consider that then if I ever apply to another game on here.

>>52556680

The biggest hubbub from PLD was Lysander getting in.

>>52556619
>weekly twice
One of them is was just a one hour interlude between two players.

>>52556617
I've got a demon-cultist mesmerist that I'd love to play for more than 2-3 sessions.

He preys on the weak, the helpless, and the powerless, offering them a chance to throw off the shackles of the society that's oppressed them. Everything he convinces them to do is about personal empowerment, and securing the stable future they deserve.

>>52556691
Not RubioPlayer, he figured Etan had taken his schtick and done it better.

>>52556700

Why don't you apply to Blingmaker? Not only does it support "mounted" chargers, but it's in a region where you can realistically encounter centaur! You even encounter a tribe of them in the later books!

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>>52556660
>tfw there won't be another weeb game to play this qt

>>52556706
Because the other players couldn't make it. Voip planned a full session.

Have we reached critical mass with games? There's so much more active complaining about them lately, are we at the point where there're just so many games running that players between them are secretly taking snipes at each other and salt from non-players has boiled past casual acceptance?

A month ago if people bitched about a /pfg/ game it was mostly in response to other shitposting. Now I'm seeing a lot of unsolicitated complaints and comparisons between games.

>>52556660
I think it's because of the way her clothes are and the angle of the picture.

>>52556680
How the fuck is Rinka an upset character

A well liked RotJR app returning to another meme game was virtually garunteed

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>>52556720
>mfw making a cavalier who rides centuars

>>52556720
But.... I've already applied to Blingmaker ;-;

Mostly because the DM was pretty strict on what races are allowed, so it wasn't happening anyways sadly.

>>52556738
Hey, I tried to turn the discussion to a deeper look into why certain apps were chosen. I want to move beyond the shitposting and maybe help a few anons out.

>>52556617
I really want to play an obsessive stalker and do creepy shit like sniffing the paladin's clothing and putting hair in his food. On the surface, I'd be a helpful, sugary-sweet person that likes to do the laundry and cook. I like to imagine the PCs horror when they discover my PCs collection of toenails and underwear, or they find out that I beat the baker's daughter for giving the paladin a piece of cake.

>>52556771
what the fuck

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>mfw the /pfg/ game I'm in is comfy as fuck and has no memes

>>52556617
A couple! Here's a few off the top of my head-

>a "nobleman" who, despite having pedigree and royal blood, has no holdings or land, and is the last of his line. It's his goal to acquire riches and continue the honorable line of the Marik clan!
>A simple tavern girl whose cooking attracts fey creatures to serve her, and a cute satyr boy who has pledged their service to the girl!
>A wolf that was captured by a mad wizard and turned into a man, before being tossed out to the curb. He's cold and chilly on the outside but that's only because he's desperate for acceptance in a pack-like structure... like a Party.
>A gnoll that isn't evil, more... meditant.

>>52556646
It's cause they're afraid of you horsing around anon

>>52556738
/pfg/ will always be full of stuff that somebody hates. Buildposting, DSP discussion, anime, meme games, shipping. All of these are some peoples' favorite things and all of these really annoy others.

>>52556743
If I didn't still have a slight sense of shame, I'd buy that pillow

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>>52556617
So many, several of which are ridiculous gimmick builds that require generous chargen and/or specific campaigns to function like a FE-style Cavalier aiming to be Not!Seth. Of the more reasonable builds they all kinda end up just being... Really generic, because I've yet to play even the most BASIC of character concepts like "stock barbarian build", or "the hyper generic onispawn unchained monk". Heck, i have a sorcerer build I've been itching to put into a real game for a while, the only issue with it is I'd look like I was trying to one-up a player in the game I'm in right now.

>>52556766
You're only encouraging shit posting. If people want to know that fucking badly they can PM the DM and ask nicely.

I'm not a fan of game discussion here aside from campaign recaps/session recaps, especially when it turns into popularity contests and shipping bullshit like it does on /pfg/.

>>52556738

Game quality is way down.

Now we're dealing with bamboozles and near bamboozles and games with terrible premises or barely any premise but a clusterfuck of autistic houserules

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>>52556771
>mfw crazy yanderes like this are a secret fetish of mine.

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>>52556781
That's exactly the kind of reaction I want.

>>52556785
Are we starting with centaur puns now? Comn guys don't do this to me.

>>52556666
>TFW I really hope Casimir and Val drag out their arc while anons here who want it to happen get blueballs

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>>52556799
>>52556807
>we will never get the RotJR chargen again

>>52556592
>Milre finds a new purpose to live exploring the Stolen Lands with her comrades.
>Decides to protect the land and the people in it by raising an army of freemen and mercenaries, converting enemies to her cause.
>Begins stockpiling magical items and artifacts collected by fighting foreign threats.
>Winds up betrayed by her own people, her base up in flames, due to the possession of weapons of magical destruction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLoytewvn0g

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>>52556810
Reminder that there is NOTHING wrong with being crazy and even LESS wrong with sticking your dick in crazy unless you're a meanie who wants to break a girl's heart just like that because you're sadistic and ruthless and cruel and deserve to be burned to death in a temple bell because honestly who would even dream of just abandoning their wife who's definitely their wife even if they haven't gotten married yet because it's JUST a MATTER OF TIME and there's literally no reason to wait for formalities anyway nobody needs to know you can just finish up the paperwork AFTER the first night this way you can have TWO first nights for the price of one without cheating because I mean se~riously who would CHEAT when they're already in a relationship they must be the worst type of scum who should be punished by being burned to death in a temple bell but oh of course this has like nothing at all to do with you forgive me dear I'm just rambling about irrelevant and COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE things and events and ideas anyway ahaha it's just a bad habit of mine when I get excited ahahaha so anyway this is just a reminder that there's no reason you should hold back on giving a girl the dick just because they're crazy it's not like they'll HURT you just by being crazy if they obviously love you omnia vincit amor or so it's said right anyway so now about that dick I've been talking about...

>>52556771
>>52556814

My dick is so hard thinking about having a waifu like that.

>>52556807
Eh

I don't think any of the current recruiting games are bad

>>52556745

Apply with a cute! A CUTE!

>>52556822
Don't be such a neigh-sayer.

>>52556680
>Dragons 2
>everyone except punchgirl and tittymonster

...I wonder why the rest of them were upsets?

>>52556799
Let's hear about this sorcerer build- why would it overshadow the other player?

>>52556822
Get hoofin'

>>52556828
What was the chargen for RotJR again?

>>52556771
>>52556781
What the fuck indeed.

She better be like ridiculously hot or dtf.

>>52556841
I'm still trying to understand how anyone could think Rinka was an upset

That rat was a sure lock.

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I need pictures, /pfg/!
Pictures of Battlemaids!

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>>52556844
Do you not like yandere anon?

>>52556828

The only difference between RotJR chargen and every other campaign chargen is Gestalt.

>>52556730
Nnnnnnnnnno, it really was just a little interlude.

>>52556827
Me too. A lot of people hate it but I enjoy it when couples don't get together until the very end of a story.

>>52556880
I fucking despise that

Fucking kiss already you pieces of shit

>>52556841
the now-standard /pfg/ chargen of 25 pb, level 3 with 3k gp wbl (at least), background skills, elephant in the room feat tax. But it was also gestalt, DSP, FFS, SoP, and really generous with houseruling things to work, like stat swaps or other small changes to get things to stack.

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>>52556865
They even have D&D builds.

It will never cease to amuse me that the "worst" thing to ever happen to /pfg/ was an opportunity to play Pathfinder.

>>52556680
>2hu
Literally nothing wrong.

>>52556829
inb4 Kyras starts communicating only through gestures and humming.
While wearing nothing but a speedo.

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>>52556771
>>52556830
You're a menace.

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>>52556828
>MFW BitF is the old SoP+Jolly no gestalt meme

>>52556894
Literally the best thing

I remember the times before RotJR

You know what this thread was

Fucking whining.

Just endless fucking whining about not having games.

>>52556894
I can't tell if you're being ironic or not.

>>52556894
I think it's a bunch of saltfags mad that they keep getting rejected or a bunch of "anime is trash" fags on a chinese cartoon forum.

>>52556891

That's for the end of Book 1, anon!

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>>52556865
>>52556893
Also the one in the middle has divine ranks

>>52556869
Only if lots of lewds are involved. Generally yes, in the small vacuum of hentai usually.

(Yandere characters are usually too creepy or obsessive without any real incentive for you to be with them. (Aside from not getting horribly murdered I guess.)

>>52556912
It was honestly occasional grumbling.

Now it's constant whining about not getting games, combined with people saying people don't deserve, while also sucking off the people that do get games.

>>52556912

Oh please, they were never that bad.

Though come to think of it, the best discussions we had before RotJR was lore dumps or waifu wars that spilled into culture discussions.

Because of RotJR and Blingmaker, we've dumped tons of info on Brevoy and Tian Xia, and Molthune taught us all about Molthune.

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Do you prefer to set your games during the early, mid, late middle ages, or the renaissance?

>>52556939
>occasional grumbling

Yeah no it was bad

pre RotJR /pfg/ was depressing as shit

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>>52556935
Shit taste detected.

>>52556950
Road trip from absalom to land of the linnorm kings campaign when?

>>52556880
>>52556891
>>52556920

>mfw all they do after Thisletop is walk Valeriya home gently

>>52556957
It really wasn't and if it was, post RotJR /pfg/ is even worse.

>>52556920
No kisses until they're on the top of the world literally.

>>52556900
But then we'd have to have a fake Milre for him to hook up with

>>52556892
>25pb
Not unreasonable
>level 3 start
For certain campaigns it works- but I like to start where an AP recommends
>3k wbl
That's in the rules
>Background skills
Needs to be OFFICIALLY ENDORSED
>Feat Tax
I feel that combining this with Path of War is a bit overkill.
>Gestalt
It's perfect for parties of 2-3, MAYBE parties of 4 in a tough campaign, but anything more is... iffy.
>DSP
They need a balance pass but I love what they've done
>FFS
I like what they're doing but I have a policy- no playtest content
>SoP
Agreeable, I usually prefer it as it's not an "I-win" button.
>Generous houserules
These vary from game to game. One I'm fond of is "thrown weapons are STR-to-hit in the first range increment". Some others are great too- I think I was working on a doc that made full-BaB martials more SAD. The stat swaps I'm iffy on but making small lchanges to stuff to make them stack isn't bad.

Seems reasonable.

>>52556957
I don't like RotJR. I rag on them from time to time. They got a bit TOO memey for my tastes

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>>52556839
>>52556841
Sigh...

>>52556838
Maybe, I'll have to wait for the right campaign. I've already got my Blingmaker app up, and I'm thinking of making a Kinetic Knight for Blood in the Fangwood.

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>>52556841
>the sorcerer in my party right now is a blue dragon sorcerer girl with a split focus of electricity and enchantment spells
>she spent almost an entire book either getting completely cockblocked (lmao undead with electricity immunity) or her spells just straight up no-selling (blocked by SR, enemies roll nat20's on saves)
>the handful of times a spell HAS gone through it's basically ended encounters in turn 1 or 2

Every time I look at sorcerer, all I've seen from the beginning is hardcore focusing on one school with the usual generic spell grabs to sling when my gimmick gets blocked. Enchantment, in this case, being the main thing My only issue with this path is that I would have to pick between +spell DC and not being an enormous faggot. Also that I would still be a horrible fucking person in-character for focusing on enchantment spells.

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>>52556991
Elephant in the Room feat tax is SUPER overkill with Path of War.

It makes initiators wreck the shit out of encounters and it makes Dexterity way too good on anything but a warder.

>>52556991
see I like high powered feeling games, so DSP is fun as is gestalt.

But I also like low party counts, because logistics are a nightmare.

>>52556871
Are you in the game? Come now, what's your character then? Because originally it was a full session, then someone had to miss out due to family issues, another was also called-away for business, someone ELSE had to do travel, and so to make up for it Dog-Autist went on a solo mission to save Alexa Jones from goons.

Come now, if you REALLY are real and not just a shitposter, you'd know this you fuck.

>>52556827
>TFW they do the Ross and Rachel thing where whenever he's single she's in a relationship and whenever she's single he's in a relationship

>>52556918
Note the quotation marks.

>>52557020

Well, don't put it off too long; bridle hands do the devil's work.

>>52557024
Feels bad man
Wait what game or AP is this?

>>52557063
Yeah, you're wrong.

It is legitimately the worst thing to happen to this general.

>>52556991
Feat taxes depend on what kind of players you have. If your players want to make ridiculous shit and use those feats to spread wide into things they'd otherwise never be able to touch without kneecapping themselves? Fucking fantastic, it's great. If they're just going to use those feat taxes to make themselves EVEN STRONKER? Well then you've probably got shitty players, and shouldn't bother with it.

>>52557089
Not him and not a player
ur wrong

>>52557089
haha wrong

>>52557100
>>52557101
So you're not even players but shipping fags. Even worse.

>>52557095
>tfw you're a PoW dexfag, so all the feat taxes get you is power attack anyway.

>>52557116
>bad wrong fun is bad

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>>52556830

>>52557116
No, I think the thread is less gloomy, more happy, more memey, and just generally more fun, esp. since it lead to a trillion other games.

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>>52557041
>voip running two games a week

Voip is going to burn out and end both games before Book 1 finishes, calling it now.

>>52557123
Yes, filling threads with gaia tier shitposts and shipping, celebrity and e-drama bullshit, and circle jerking is bad for the general.

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>>52557117
It also gets you free Weapon Finesse!

>>52557146
>using gaia as an insult in a fucking general thread
Generals are literally the opposite of what 4chan was supposed to be about.

>>52557146
I suppose endless grumpy bitching about not having games and arguments about path of war were better?

>>52557117
And weapon finesse

>>52557146
Pathfinder probably doesn't need a general.

Ded game
Ded thred.

>>52557137
>more memey,
This is not a good thing. And the threads aren't less gloomy. The only "happy" people in this arrangement or fags that obsess over peoples characters and fags that get off on people obsessing over them.

>>52557117
Getting power attack on a dex build is pretty fucking great.

>>52557168
ok then stop posting in the general, contribute to its death if you hate it so much

>>52557152
>>52557157
I like daisho expertise and polearm dancer too much. I have to spend the feat either way.

>>52557155
>implying it was endless
But yes, arguments about the games mechanics is much better than cute-posting and shipping.

>>52557189
We still have that now though. It's happening LITERALLY right now.

>>52557189
>Implying his opinion is fact

>>52557189
It was fucking endless, and it wasn't arguing about mechanics, it was a rehash of the same argument to the point that we made fucking bingo boards.

>>52557073
Shattered Star game, not one from /pfg/ though, it's between some friends.
>we also have no full BAB character
holy fuck combat is a headache

>>52557179
You guys are still pretty much the only place I can talk about Pathfinder that at least have an inkling of balance. It's either here or Giant in the Playground. I don't fucking have anywhere else to go in that regard.

>>52556954

I prefer the Enlightenment.

>>52557211
Sorry that we're having fun instead of being depressed and gameless then

>>52557207
>it was a rehash of the same argument to the point that we made fucking bingo boards.
Welcome to 4chan.
>It was fucking endless
No it wasn't. And how is it any different now. It just mutated from "I have no game" to "I can't get in a game" or "Now I can't fuck X character in Y game" and variations of that.

>>52556844
Oh, I'll find out your tastes and become your perfect dream girl. Maybe you'd like a modestly dressed provincial woman, or a sultry and stylish tart. All I need to do is ask and cast Detect Thoughts .

Of course there are lewds involved. And babies. Lots and lots of babies. All I need is some of your batter to put a few buns in the oven. The baker's daughter won't be using that oven any more, anyway. That slut won't be seducing any more men with her disgusting cakes.

>>52557178
I think that just makes the would-be str builds tankier, which is admittedly a problem with PoW counters. I'd prefer if it was either weapon finesse or power attack, but not both.

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>>52557225
So let me understand

The same thing over and over instead of new things that you don't like

What the fuck is wrong with you

>>52557225
>Welcome to 4chan.
Actually, this isn't how 4chan is supposed to work. The only things that have bingo boards are supposed to be memes. Having a bingo board is a sign of a general that's overstayed its normal lifespan.

>>52556788
I think most of the people here even hate the Pathfinder system itself.

>>52557210
Oh god that sounds terrible man, you need a face-smasher really bad in that AP- it's all dungeon crawls.

Wait are you the same anon who had the half-elf alchemist? You seem familiar

>>52557189
I don't get involved in any of these discussions but I wonder actually.

Cute-posting and shipping makes someone happy I guess? I feel like most game mechanics debates here tend to go nowhere and devolve into two people screaming at each other over their thoughts on options, while weighing them against completely different metrics.

Questions, clarifications, reviewing new books, that stuff is all good. The typical argument over build options or the worth of PoW gets pretty bad though.

The best discussions are about lore and modules.

>>52557238
the bingo was only for path of war arguments.

they were that predictable

>>52557219
>we're having fun instead of being depressed and gameless then
Why are you posting here if you don't really want to talk about Pathfinder. All this shipping nonsense is basically you treating whatever dumb fucking game like the next soap opera, if all you want is cute bullshit fuck off to /a/.

Also see this
>>52557225

>>52557117
Weapon Finesse, Agile Maneuvers, shortened TWF chain.

>>52557253
And it happened literally EVERY OTHER FUCKING THREAD EATING 100 POSTS

>>52557256
because i do want to talk about pathfinder, but i don't want to talk about boring shit i've talked about 100 times before like MUH POW IS BROKEN

>>52557264
>only 100 posts

please once a PoW argument started it was time to abandon thread until we got another fucking anime girl op

>>52557229
My perfect dream girl... Is (You)

>>52557268
100 posts if we were lucky, 400 if we weren't.
They're like good aligned necromancers

Has anybody seen BUILDPOSTER lately?

>>52557269
But I'm a boy!

>>52556982

Don't even joke about that, then we'll never hear the end of this!

>>52557272
REEE ALWAYS EVIL REEEE

>>52557273
he just doesn't namefag anymore, he's still around.

>>52557275
Put on this girdle

>>52557168
>Doesn't get obsessed over.
>Don't give a shit about memes on other characters.
>Is happy

I guess there are more people on /pfg/ than (You) after all.

>>52557265
And talking about how X characters are CUTE! CUTE! isn't talking about Pathfinder in any real capacity either.

>>52557295
Is it reversible?

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>>52557275
I'll still make you my woman.

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>>52557229
Stop this, this isn't supposed to give me a boner but it is.

What is happening.

>>52557299
Welcome to 4chan generals.

>>52557298
(You)'re lying! You're a filthy shipper I know it! Stop talking about things I don't like!

>>52557298
Well good for you I guess. These threads are still in an unacceptable state, but being able to wade through such shit with a smile is a nice skill.

Whatever happened to the Iconics? Have they been up to anything in the APs?

>>52557328
>unacceptable
To you.

How do I stat this out, anons?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whz-LQlbI-U

>>52557332
Iconics don't really do anything other than show stuff off.

I guess if you count the worldscape comics
>Seoni is a traitorous whore
>Kyra get's cucked
>Valeros bangs RED FUCKING SONJA

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>>52557308
No, but it can be put on the other anon if you'd like that better.

>>52557299
All PFG character discussions inevitably degenerates into waifu and cocksleeving. The sooner you accept this, the better.

The only exception is DHB, who makes characters that entertain us all. He is true rebel scum.

Fight back by making non-waifuable characters and entering them into /pfg/ games.

>>52557348

>Seoni

That was Merisiel.

>>52557247
Yes. The saving grace is the fact that despite being a man down, we're a level or two higher than the AP probably expects, and also loaded as fuck with cash since crafting lmao.
There being like, 2-3 "companion creatures"
in the party also helps

>>52557361
Based nugget man

>>52557349
That can work for me! I like being the big spoon more!

>>52557361
People just won't talk about them then if they're not incredibly interesting on their own.
Also what about 2hu, although I guess 2hu's builds aren't 'characters'.

>>52557346
Start with a baseline of Kineticist or Monk.

>>52557361
That just creates a bara meta, which leads to a sudden influx of waifus to combat it.

>>52557361
I did. No one really gave a shit.

And if they can't turn you into a waifu/husband, they'll just kinda stop giving a fuck about you. DHB is an anomaly in that he's a known tripfag.

>>52557395
It leads to daddyposting.

>>52557395
BUY BUY BUY BARA

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>>52557373
Feels bad man

Was the full-BaB character at least cute? They sounded cute!

>>52557374
I want nuggetman to be my daddy

>>52556592
Franze's player here and that's something I've been thinking about. I've edited my app in the past couple days and plan on making more changes as I figure out the answers to your question. Right now I think her character arc could follow along a warmer alignment shift as she gets to know the party, or some sort of despotic power play after slowly subverting the party.

>>52557397
Your character was probably arse lmao

>>52557407
And we have the current state of /pfg/

Where do we go from here.

>>52557372
Fuck, I get them mixed up. Yeah, Seoni didn't do anything besides hang out with Martian man.

>>52557328
>REEEEEEE DSP ISN'T PATHFINDER, IT WAS BETTER WHEN WE ONLY TALKED ABOUT PAIZO PRODUCTS HERE
>REEEEEEE ANIME OP IS DESTROYING THIS GENERAL, HERE'S THE REAL ONE
>REEEEEEE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT CHARACTERS UPSETS MY GENTLE SENSIBILITIES

Same shit different pile.

>>52557395

Not really, Blingmaker got a glut of Bara and there's naught but skin and twigs applying to it.

Bara needs boobs, or at least thicc. Neither exist in that game.

>>52557429
??? Have you read Helck? The man makes Superman look like he skips out on gym and his companion (no romance but still) is this tiny flat elven woman who barely reaches his waist.

>>52557418

Franze! Franze! What characters would your eugenics master want to go full Crusader Kings 2 with?

>>52557429

It's strange.

WWW has too many waifus and Bling has too much men, unless you're into old hags.

>>52557425
>>REEEEEEE DSP ISN'T PATHFINDER, IT WAS BETTER WHEN WE ONLY TALKED ABOUT PAIZO PRODUCTS HERE
I don't really think this was ever the case.

Like yeah, that was just one consistent troll.

The other two are perfectly reasonable sentiments. This is bad because you can ignore an OP image. When 80% of the discussion becomes shipping and worshiping characters that other people made, that becomes hard to ignore.

>>52557314
I won't stop even if you scream. You'll learn to accept my love.

>>52557456
So we should combine the two!

>>52556592
Most of the submissions to Blingmaker are anything but just ambitious or greedy.

Don't just look at the memed characters and you'll see it.

>>52557429
Wait, I'm bad at english, does that mean that blingmaker needs more or less waifs?

>>52557458
>80%
It's generous to call it 50%, and it really ain't hard to ignore.
I STILL don't know who the hell Cashmere is besides apparently a slut.

>>52557456
What are you even talking about, they aren't even old in Blingmaker.

>>52557445
There won't be an answer to that until she interacts with the characters. Lawful is a must, though.

>>52557456

WWW is built in a world where dashing cowboys and hot men are totally a thing, while Kingmaker is in a male-centric part of the world in a region where fat-chested nymphs and lovely dryads are not only around, but characters with in-book mention.

>>52557467

Tfw the crazygirl character in your group probably isn't into your character.

;_;

>>52557456
>Milre is 64 years old

>>52557456
Two women over thirty. They're ancient, Anon.

>>52557491
Seriously where are the gritty cowboys

I bet a gritty cowboy would get an almost guaranteed slot.

>>52557476

It needs more women with voluptuous figures, or at least large chests. Waifs are skinny, often to the point of sickly.

>>52557514
Playing blingmaker.

>>52557506

24 is already beat and busted too.

>>52557514
I think grumpc@ was fairly gritty. Didn't he kill a man at thirteen?

>>52557474
This, fucking this. If everyone stopped paying attention to the character meme circlejerk they'd notice that a lot submissions to that game actually are good characters than their own little popularity contest seems to suggest.

>>52557522
Would a 10 str, 18 dex, 14 con, 18 cha be waifish or voluptuous?

>>52557481

This is a thread that thinks a 32 year old man is old, dry bones.

How do you think they'll see a WOMAN in her 30s?

>>52557531
Yeah but two things about grumpc@

1. Its Roryanon

2. He's confirmed not to be able to play the time after the timeslot change.

When are our next set of /pfg/ games coming to a close?

>>52557514

Everyone in /pfg/ is a twentysomething from the SF bay area.

They're far removed from cowboy culture. I considered a cowboy, but well. A female concept came first

>>52557525
What? No 24 is literally right before cake tier.

>>52557514

I was going to make one, honest!

But then I decided I wasn't a huge fan of the setting. Should I still make one to fugg the Doll?

>>52557547
>everyone in /pfg/ is a twentysomething from the SF bay area
Well I *never*! That was very insulting, young man!

>>52557539
HV Shizuka is 30, i think thats the oldest human woman we've seen in any game.