Infinity General: Delphyne the ALEPHsaur Edition

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Clear pic of Shikami 3D render

Front and back view

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>shikami
Here's the a nice quality dossier from rempresence

>>52477622
He looks so cool I almost want to switch to JSA.

So on a scale of 1-10 how unnecessarily complex is the RPG?

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>tfw no one expects the failed inferior infiltration Daylami that hasn't moved all game to kill their TAG

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>>52477622
I know it's unusual to use models from different manufacturers in Infinity, but the Raijin Trooper from Puppetswar released a while ago looks very similar.

>>52477745
Not really/10, depends on how you find the Heat/Momentum system.

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Thought it would be a good idea to put all my images in one place for you guys to view. Prolly missing some stuff, though. So I'll update when I can.

http://imgur.com/gallery/OobOy

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>>52478281
Note that you can pull all the RPG art from the rulebook preview by selecting it, copying and creating new from clip board in Photoshop. It will paste full size.

>>52478366
Never realised it was the tech bee

>>52478366
cheers mate

>>52478281
>OobOy
Well said.

>>52477247
What the fuck this was not a joke?

>>52478401
Whatever it is I'd fuck it.

>>52478401
No, it's literally a dino-shaped Sophotect designed specifically to evac children.
Rules-wise she'd be a Sophotect with no weapons, but with Mimetism (or possibly Camo) instead.

>Delphyne is a pseudosaur with a shoulder height of 120 cm. “She” has a friendly face and her skin is colour adaptive, but pink whenever circumstances permit. Strapped to her back is a container which holds a Serum-constructing micro-fabricator, and a score of small robots which stand in for her hands.

Anyone know any good purple dinosaur proxies? I want to bring Delphyne along next time my IS plays rescue.

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>>52478434
Fucking Nomads.

>>52478541
Considering what she looks like I think you should be looking at toy shelves.

>>52478579
I fail to see how this is an insult.

>>52478401
It's a backer character. Approved by CB, no less.

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>>52478604
That's because you're a degenerate.

>>52478781
While I sorta agree it's laughable, it's better than all the self-interest.

>>52477247
whats with that picture?

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>>52478974
mfw you get a Cube and suddenly you all think you're Jesus.

>>52479035
It's a backer designed character from the kickstarter funded infinity RPG. The character is as >>52478442 described.

>>52479036
That's because you fuck animals.
Degenerate.

>>52478442

Honestly, that's kinda cool.

>>52479094
No, I fuck non humans. Much different.

>>52479322
Antipodes are no better than dogs.

>>52479452
You keep making these noises. Are you trying to say something?

>>52479452
De Bat Oznat is best waifu.

So I have been looking for mood music to use for my Infinity RPG campaign.

The best I have found so far is the Mass Effect 1 soundtrack (2 and 3 don't work quite as well)

Any other suggestions?

>>52480201
The Advent Rising OST, maybe?

>>52480201
StarCraft 2 Terran theme for Dawn. That Mexican sounding track from Ace Combat for Corregidor.

>>52477247
So the backer characters art most them look like something out of tumblr or a antifa meeting problem glasses and all.

>>52480568
Usually those types (if not turbo autistic furries) that bother with it. Seen some kickstarters with "$10k and get your own character in!" and it was some guy with a part-time job living with his parents and he paid for it all right out of pocket. Of course it was so he could add his fursona and jack off to it most likely.

Other than that I find the RPG to be pretty meh as a game, but for more background info on the setting I like it.

>>52480568
>I did not get laid in college.

Tell us more, Anon.

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So now that the RPG rules are mostly done:
Stat us, /tg/.

Reminder that Felix had short bio written https://pastebin.com/a8hUkxCz

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Kum with me if you want to live.

>>52480671
Was there even a single project without backer NPCs being pure cringe?

Outside of ITS, are doctors worth it?

>3 Turn game, need to spend at least one order to reach the guy, another to revive. Might need to spend a Command Token (Or two) if you fuck up the roll
>2 Orders that could be spent doing meaningful things

Also, is there no limit to how many Forward Observers you can take? For example, an AVA Total Unit like Keisotsu, why not take all Forward Observers? Same load out, specialist.

>>52481550
Can field a list of 20 FOs if you got the points if you want.

Also doctors depend on mission and what you're bringing. Coming from Haqqislam I take doctors regardless, but something having a dude to backup your workhorse is nice. Al Fasid knocked out? Pop him with some doctor love and get him back to shooting.

Some missions and a hidden objective want a doctor or paramedic. Doctors are more likely to succeed than a paramedic since they use their own WIP so Experimental Drug is easier to achieve. Missions like Supplies just give a bonus to opening the tech coffins if a doc/para, but sometimes you really need that +3.

Otherwise, again coming from Haqq, couple of my doctor options are good specialists for getting around. Tuareg doctors, not only rolling on 18s to heal, have infiltration and TO camo and Jannisary Ackbar Doctors can heal multiwound guys to full on top of having some armor and body to shrug off some fire and push a button.

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I'll buy twenty.

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And it likes what it sees.

>>52481953
>>52482066
I already ordered from them last week, dammit!

>>52481953
>>52482066
These are neat, but what would you use them for?

>>52482066
We're ALWAYS watching. Except on Thursdays from 4 to 7. That's when we have our weekly Starcraft tournament, and it takes all of our processing power to run everything.

>>52482354
Order tokens.

>>52481953
>>52482066
>we'll never get Haqq tokens with 'remove kebab' on them

>>52482392
>not wanting remove nomad tokens

>>52482449
>Not getting tokens for your CA that read "Subsume Humans" on them

>>52480201
Anything from Dance of the Dead

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>>52482066
We're watching you, scum.

>>52482492
>not wanting Yu Jing tokens with "Second Place" on them

>>52483085
>Not getting a bunch of rocks and poorly drawing the Ariadna symbol on them and writing something completely illegible on them

>>52477247
Don't care about infinity but just dropping by to say that your OP image is the creepiest fucking thing I've seen on 4chan in awhile. Damn, just looking at it makes my skin crawl.

There's no way that kid is ever going to be seen again after being carried away into the woods by the smooth, pink pedosaurus. Don't post that pic on the catalog again. Fucking hell.

>>52483371
Would it help if we told you it's female?

>>52480568
>I can tell absolutely everything about a person's personality and political preferences from their choice of eyewear.

Seriously kill yourself.

>>52477247
I'm still holding out for a Dog Warrior Lhost.

>>52477622
oh fuck me

>>52483390
Problem with some folk is that they can't control their own thoughts and get obsessed with things. They are probably closet pedos.
I think that saur is awful cute.

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I miss my photoshop (from my dead computer) and I'm rather terrible with Gimp but what if the Shikami looked more like this edit I made?

>>52486697
If the Aquila guard looked like eagles just because of their names it's basically Warhammer again.

So was the locaust shown?

>>52487309
No locust shown. Just the Nexus Operative, and the two new units (Major Lunah and the Danavas Hacker)

>>52486697
Better. Swap the jacket for jump jets and it'll be golden.

Slowpoke here but what's the status on the RPG? Core almost done, splatbooks moving up on their go-lives?

>>52489305
Core is assembled, barring Life in the Human Sphere, Nomads, Human Edge, Gear: Lifestyles, and Gear: Services. We've seen a pre-layout adventure from Adventures in the Human Sphere. Last update on the faction books is from March 2, and says they were working on gear and adversaries.

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roll to discover

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Rolled 16 (1d20)

>>52491151
rolling to discover w/multispec visor lvl 2

>>52491151
>>52491334
Nope, nothing there.

Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>52491151
Just a fusilier, patrolling around- hey whats that (12in) away?

>>52491789
Huh.. its nothing. I must be getting paranoid

Is this right?

Good Guy throws smoke
Good Guy spends another order to move into the said smoke around a corner
Good guy has martial arts
There is a bad guy 4" away.
Good guy wants to throw a smoke grenade that clips the bad guy, so it covers any advance and he won't get shot before he beats him with his CC weapon. Is this right?

Good guy makes a PHY-6 roll (Might end up -3 if range is right). It's -6 because he cannot see out of the smoke himself and it's speculative. It's also an entire order to do so.
The Bad Guy has two options. Since the template is clipping him, he can make a Dodge - 3 roll or he can just try to shoot the guy throwing a grenade at a -6 (He can see the guy through the smoke since technically the guy is making an attack)

Right?

>>52491863
Yup

>>52491863
Good guy should not clip bad guy with the smoke for that reason. Bad guy can F2F and cause the smoke to fail. Good guy should just make sure his base will clip the smoke, he'll be out of sight the whole way, and stealth will make it so the enemy can only react with CC skills or Dodge.

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>>52491863
Guy can choose to dodge. However, smoke is targetless and not targeting the badguy so the ARO can't be shoot.

If it was a regular grenade which has to target the badguy he could shoot back, this is not the case.

In all honesty, you are better off tossing the smoke so it doesn't touch the badguy. As long as the Good Guy is still touching the smoke, he is in smoke and thus cannot be seen.

>>52491863
>Good Guy throws smoke
But PanO doesn't have smoke.

>>52492472
Datz have tons of smoke.

>>52492472
exactly.

>>52480893
I've tried statting up Felix using the app and 12LP system. I admit that my career choices were partly to max up specific skills rather than fluff, but I guess Corporate was Felix undercover.

Faction: Nomads, Birth place: Bakunin, Host body: Human
Social class: Underclass, Home environment: High society
Youth Event: Witnessed long term abuse
Education: Grew up on streets
Adolescence event: Caused an accident - 10 assets debt, Trait: Careless
Career 1: Police 2 years, Career 2: Special Forces 4 years, Career 3: Corporate 3 years, Career 4: Corporate 4 years.
Earnings 2, Assets 12
Events: Questioned by authorities - 4 assets debt to Submondo, IQ-doppelganger, Fierce Rivarly, Exotic cosmetic surgery (obviously), Big promotion.

AGI 17, AWA 14, BRW 14, COO 10, INT12, PER 12, WIL 17

Skills: Acrobatics 1:0, Close Combat 1:0, Stealth (S) 3:0, Extraplanetary 1:0, Observation 2:2, Survival (S) 2:2, Athletics 1:0, Resistance 2:0, Ballistics 2:0, Education 1:0, Hacking (S) 2:1, Medicine 1:0, Science 2:0, Lifestyle 5:4, Persuade (S) 3:1, Willpower 2:0
Talents: Hacker, Socialite, Charismatic, Phisher, Social Mimic, Network rank 1, Enticer rank 2.
Equipment: Armoured paramilitary uniform with police markings, Heavy pistol with 2 reloads (normal ammo), Armoured paramilitary uniform with supplemental Armour Plating, CombiRifle with 2 reloads, Chameleonic Clothing, Corporate clothing, Basic Urban Survival Kit, 3 assets worth of cosmetic biomods
Languages: Not in app, but English and German are standard for Bakunin
Geist: AGI 4 AWA 4 BRW 4 COO 4 INT 4 PER 6 WIL 4
Geist skills: Analysis 2:0, Education 2:0

I wish you could just export to PDF.

So how exactly does an O Yoroi work?

>>52494919
It's mostly a generic heavy TAG on the cheap side with a mediocre primary weapon and only 7ARM, but comes with crazykoalas. It's also got some random CC crap it'll probably never use unless your opponent somehow sneaks something into CC past the flamethrower and koalas.

>>52494919
Actively it functions similar to a normal one, but with stealth for better mobility. Keep it in the midfield to get proper use out of those crazykoalas.

Question, should I get some Zond bots for my Clockmaker? A 3 point model, it might be useful as an extra order, but beyond that I cannot see how.

>>52495106
Units with G: Servant do not provide an order. Their purpose is to extend the range of your doctor or engineer so they don't need to risk running across the board themselves, or so they can run towards a patient and an objective at the same time.

>>52495133
Ah, thanks for that. I guess ill think about them then, but for now they are not a priority, so I will proxy a spare Fastpanda until they are sold separately.
I dont want to buy the support pack, then Clockmaker looks terrible, and all I want from it is a Zond.

Can perimeter weapons trigger mines and perimeter weapons?

>>52495103
I thought TAGs couldnt use stealth?

Also when are AROs triggered, during movement or after movement?

Is stealth only useful if I'm moving into melee?

>>52495183
>Also when are AROs triggered, during movement or after movement?
After each skill, and all are resolved simultaneously.
E.g. if you move a guy so that an enemy sees him, but another enemy has his back turned, the guy who sees him gets an ARO. If you then decide to move into the back-turned guy's ZoC, he gets an ARO then (Change Facing).

>>52492453
Wait.

I thought AROs were triggered at the expenditure of an order---not targeting.

I also thought if you make any kind of attack roll from within or behind smoke, enemies can now see you and ARO.

If that's the case, wouldn't a guy throwing smoke grenades from within smoke provoke an ARO regardless if his template touches the bad guy?

>>52495183
>Also when are AROs triggered, during movement or after movement?

During movement.

Active player declares skill

Check for AROs

Declare second skill if first skill was short skill

Check if new models can ARO

>>52495555
So say my model comes around a corner on his mobement then declares a BS attack on the enemy. Would the enemy have one or two AROs?

>>52495694
Just one. Models must declare an ARO during the first activation in the order that entitles them to one (unless the active trooper is a marker, different kettle of fish).

Taking the sequence above.

You spend an order, choosing your guy at the corner, and declare move as the first short skill.

You move your guy.

You and the enemy check to see if any enemy troopers get to ARO (most often if he enters their line of fire).

For the sake of example one does. Your enemy chooses BS attack as his ARO.

For your second short skill, you declare BS attack.

No new models who didn't previously have an ARO see you, because you didn't move, so there is no new AROs.

There is now a face to face roll between you and your enemy's BS attacks.

Anyone have a good suggestion for unique narrative missions or campaigns? I've tried finding Campaign Paradiso online but can't, however I've read it has good campaign rules.

>>52495857
And what Stealth does is make it so if your final destination is out of LOS you dont trigger AROs while moving?

Is this how people sneak the O Yoroi around or is there something more?

>>52495887
A very restricted set of AROs, namely change facing and hacking, can be taken without line of site, provided the active model is in the Zone of control (8 inches) of the enemy wishing to ARO. Stealth means simply being in 8 inches is not enough, the O yoroi has to do something loud.

>>52495936
line of sight*

>>52495887
Stealth just means you can move through an enemy Zone of Control without triggering ARO as long as you stay out of LOS and don't shoot at them.

I'm not sure where you're getting this "sneaky O-Yoroi" thing from, it's technically got stealth but the thing is huge, has huge guns, and no special deployment or movement shenanigans. If it somehow ends up behind an enemy figure it's not going to waste time being sneaky, it'll just blow his brains out.

>>52495956
Why does the OY have stealth, anyway?

>>52495968
Because he has Martial Arts, and it's a package deal.

>>52495956
>The real treasure is using the O-Yoroi’s 6-4 move and Stealth to sneak up on the enemy backline

I always thought 1d4chan was esited by /tg/

>>52495887
>Is this how people sneak the O Yoroi around or is there something more?
You can pass through repeater fields and as long as you stay out of sight of enemy Hackers you can't get ARO-hacked, that's a pretty big deal

>>52496021
Sneaking past enemy backline is not as important as sneaking past Hackers as a TAG. If they can't react, they can't hack you.

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>>52495501
As per the rules of Zero visibility zones:

> Inside a Zero Visibility Zone, troopers can only declare Skills that do not require LoF or that require them to be in base to base contact with their target.

> Any trooper who is the target of a BS Attack into or out of a Zero Visibility Zone, or whose LoF traverses a Zero Visibility Zone, may respond to the attacker even without LoF, provided the trooper is facing the attacker.

> However, without a clear LoF to his target, the trooper's ARO (or second Short Skill of his Order in Active Turn) options are reduced to BS Attack with a -6 MOD or Dodge without the MOD.

You have to be the target of a BS attack to enable you to shoot across a zero vis zone without MSV2+.

So unless they have MSV2+ they cannot shoot you if you are tossing from within smoke because smoke is targetless. They can declare change facing or any other ARO that doesn't require LOF, but not shoot.

>>52480893
>>52494815
I don't think anyone cares, but I tried statting up Amba as well. I probably overdid her career and made her too old, but I didn't want to waste LPs. Used 12LP system as well.

Faction: PanOceania, Birth place: Acontecimento, Host Body: Human
Social Class: Demogrant, Home Environment; Frontier life
Youth event: Discovered sexual attraction (since it was a fetish character anyway)
Education: Military training.
Adolescence event: You gain a package worth 5 assets that you must never lose. You do not know what is inside. Trait: Unwanted Heritage
Career: Military 3+3 years, Special Forces 5+3 years.
Earnings: 2, Assets: 7

AGI 13 AWA 10 BRW 16 COO 10 INT 9 PER 7 WIL 12

Skills: Acrobatics 2:0, Close Combat 3:2, Observation 1:0, Survival (S) 3:2, Athletics (S) 3:1, Resistance 3:0, Ballistics (S) 5:3, Tech (S) 3:1, Animal Handling 1:0, Command 1:1, Lifestyle 1:0, Discipline 2:1
Talents: Natural Engineer, Rigorous Training rank 1, Leverage rank 1, Irresistible Force, Sturdy, Just a Scratch rank 1, Strong Grip
Equipment: Military dress uniform, Pistol, Knife, Armoured paramilitary uniform with supplemental plating (x2), CombiRifle with 2 reloads (x2), Chmeleonic clothing
Languages: Portugese and Spanish

Geist: AGI 5 AWA 5 BRW 4 COO 4 INT 4 PER 4 WIL 4
Geist skills: Analysis 2:0, Observation 2:0

Felix was more of a party face, Amba is a tank.

Anyone have that picture of a Bulleteer with its ODD active?

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>>52498135
Here

>>52498949
Not what I'm talking about. It looked like static.

>>52497547

Ok, thanks!

Yo, I vaguely heard about a Korean sectorial for Yu Jing, is that a thing?

>>52502064
Not yet. It's possible, but I think Invincible Army is coming first.

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What do you think of dog warriors, fluff wise, and in the RPG, /tg/?

Is it furry to tie one down and ride her raw after she transforms, or do they count as monstergirl/boys?

Any good campaign rules or narrative rules around?

>>52502484
>That spoiler

yes it is you degenerate nomad faggot. It's also creepy as shit. Get out of my hobby and take the rest of the furfags with you.

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Think this scheme could look good on haqq? Need some scheme ideas.

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Any scans of Paradiso?

>>52494815

The cap on stats is 16. It's hidden away on page 70.

>>52504624
I've been looking too. I found one years and years ago, but that was on a hard drive that is long since gone.

>>52504093
The Druze are sort of their own thing, but muting the usual Haqq brown and green toward very dark shades could work fine.

>>52505303
>muh canon paint schemes

Why should anyone care? Infinity is a world full of nanofabrication and Mimetic/Thermoptic camoflage.

Do Yu Jing and PanO have redeeming qualities, besides not wanting to end humanity?
I don't mind playing baddies, but I gather that human factions are supposed to be shades of grey and can't find their redeeming qualities in the scraps of lore floating about.

>>52491863
>There is a bad guy 4" away

the correct solution is probably, move to the edge of the smoke, not using stealth so that the bad guy is forced to declare a change facing ARO or lose his ARO, then just walk out of the smoke into melee.

>>52506248
Nah it's all pretty nihilistic and GoT-lite about the morals and ethics of characters and factions

>>52496561
>You can pass through repeater fields and as long as you stay out of sight of enemy Hackers you can't get ARO-hacked, that's a pretty big deal

Keep in mind if the enemy has a core link with a hacker in it, your stealth is nullified by his SSL2, and if you declare a reset against that hacker, you will break your stealth allowing all other enemy hackers to hack you.

>ALEPHsaur

Dinosaur uplifts, a cybernetic T. rex as a TAG, and a pissed off velociraptor unit when

>>52506248
I've been reading quite a bit on the factions lately and PanO has this really radical PanOpticon thing going on with Mayanet, which is also a clever play on words. Cheers to CB on that. Everybody in the society is basically livestreaming their lives 24/7, so it's like a constant agora society. It's probably a pretty nice life for the billions and billions of normal people in their society.

>>52506248
They treat most of their people well. Standards of living are rivalled only by O12.

>>52506248
>>52506354

It's kind of a consequence of the battle justifications, being deniable shifty black ops shit doing shifty deeds, but I wouldn't go so far as saying it's GoT-lite - that'd require every character being a raging, unlikeable child rapist war criminal. The closest you get to that are Desperadoes and other criminal biker units hired by factions, and even then, they're stated to have an inch of honor, unlike the people they're usually hired to fight against (Desperadoes fight ferals and raiding not-Native tribes and cannibals).

>>52503824
>he still plays a game where werewolves borne from pregnant women and where a unit are explicitly made from furries made to fuck as well as they fight

The real furfaggot is you.

>>52506467
Wow. Does the fact that you have so much repressed rage with regard to sex hamper your ability to interact with everyone, or just your preferred sexual partners?

>>52506419
Sounds like Eclipse Phase lite.

>>52506432
This. Yu Jing's government (and PanO's, to a lesser extent, but given they're also partially made of hypercorps and partially made out of Christian/Catholic religious governments and groups that fight each other, still) may be more censorial and anti-dissent like Modern Day China (and Korea during the 50s-90s), but there's way less to complain about than in Modern China - clean air, for one, and good tech.

>>52506446
There's also a few interpretations that allow for good vs. evil, gray vs. gray, evil vs. evil, etc. - for example, PanO sectorials fighting can boil down to "hyperkkkrapitali$t group tries to take back stolen tech from ultra-conservative ultra-fundie nutjobs", "PanO government tries to shut down a rogue Catholic splinter group turned cult", and "case of friendly fire from someone getting hacked".

There's a few homebrews about a PanO team defending a celebrity against a Yu Jing hit squad, and iirc the Paradiso garrison is basically good vs. evil.

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>>52506537
>projecting this hard

ok furry

>>52502241
Invincble Army's the one made from Tibetans and Shaolin monks, right?

Someone better paint them in Wu-Tang Clan colors

>>52506628
Nah, Invincible Army is the all-HI sectorial.

>>52506537
He's probably in the closet and getting angry on Mongolian imageboards to try and convince himself otherwise. It's always the same for really hilariously angry people.

>>52506537
>>52506643

ur talking about >>52503824 rite

>>52506605
I'm not the same person.

>>52506926

Neither am I.

>>52506643
I understand, I'm the same way with my bourgeoisie background.

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>>52506941
Yeah, I'm not a furry, but I'm also not the kind of sad little repressed limp dick asshole who kinkshames.

Pic related.

>>52479048
>>52479106
Yah it's neat and all but you just get this vibe someone somewhere is furiously masturbating to it.

>>52506926
>>52506941
4chan changed us...

>>52507009
"kinkshaming"? that's actually a thing now?

Getting ready to try Sectorials for the first time.

Thinking on ISS, are Wu Ming a good Core team? For example, as a starter;

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KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
WÚ MÍNG HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 39)
ZHÀNYING Hacker (Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 32)
WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)

3 SWC | 200 Points


So thinking the Wu Ming HMG lead my team? That's a BS 16 B5 right? And I can feed it a shit ton of orders in that first combat group. Seems good.

>>52507469
It's always been a thing. The name is new, though.

>>52508141
Yeah, but you're wasting a lot of their potential there. most link teams don't benefit much from spamming one profile, the point is versatility. Get a tinbot and FO in there, or a chain rifle, or even a MULTI rifle+LGL. HRL is good too but doesn't really work with the SWC limitations you have.

They're better at 300 points since you don't need to skimp as much on the rest of the list.

So guys what upcoming sectorials you are really looking forward to and why?

>>52507469
Shaming is good. Shaming is how you preemptively prevent people from doing fucked up shit so it doesn't turn into a bigger problem later.

Ever hear of those occasional cases where someone dies from trying to fuck a horse? Maybe if they had been shamed a bit they'd still be alive.

>>52508441
All of them.

Especially Invincible army. I love HI.

>>52506248
I mean, for the vast majority of people it is still close to a post-scarcity society where people only have to work for something like 12 hours a week to make a living in this high tech world. (At least that's what I think I remember hearing).


In Yu Jing you can place the paradigm of having freedom from being "free" to starve to death like A-teks sometimes do in PanO, you'll generally be taken care of.

>>52508338

Ok, good advice, thanks anon

And it's 300, I just made that as my first combat group playing around

>>52508561
The Tohaa one since I play them, the Aleph OSS since I have been waiting it for years and is the black op operator side to the faction. And tunguska causehey Eastern European and South East Asian mafia founded nation and scifi trenchcoats.

>>52508441
I've been waiting for Tunguska since Human Sphere N2 came out.

>>52508551
>comparing consenting adults wearing costumes to play sex games with actual dangerous bestiality

You're literally a fucking idiot. By that, I mean that you are the kind of person who can only conjecture about sexual behavior through your twisted imagination. Seriously, somehow in your twisted little perverted brain, wearing costumes is conflated with fucking horses. That's entirely you, not on the people having sex in costumes.

kthxbai!

>>52508441
Would've been OSS because the new Garuda looks great, but the Posthumans 4 and 5 look like shit; so I wont be holding my breath. IA because I really like the direction the new YJ models are going. I just hope they fucking redo the CG SWC box and Kuang Shi already.

In general, I wish CB would just make shit for current profiles (especial those without any models) and more resculpts of old shit before doing new armies. So more than any new sectorial, I'm looking forward to Joan and the Hospitallers, new CHA resculpts, Ayyar, Minutemen, and the Zhanying qt

>>52508441
VARUNA
A
R
U
N
A

Appleseed the sectorial with PanO navy seals, and invisible TAG? Yes please. Street sharks are a nice bonus

Besides GM saying "fuck you" is there anything that prevents player from performing Observation test at every opportunity just to gain Momentum from their Acute Senses talent? I know other skills have similar talents, but Observation seems to be kind of skill you can use most often.

>>52510731
Not really, apart from the principle of 'if the roll doesn't matter, don't roll'. Though the GM can set them all at D0, which is an auto-success, and therefore not a test, so you can't generate Momentum on it. That still gives the player the option to take the usual amount of time, roll for it, and run the risk of generating Complications, though.

Players shouldn't really call for rolls themselves, anyway. The GM should do that.

>>52508441
Tohaa Triumvirate for sure. It better be extremely fucking cool because vanilla Tohaa is already fucking cool.

r8 for friendlies plz

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>>52504737
It seems that's another part in which the app is not finished yet.
I guess that for now, to build Felix with the 12 LP system you need to choose: High Personality and Agility, low Brawn and either Coordination or Intelligence, Nomads, Bakunin, Underclass - High Society youth (to reflect him being an expensive sex slave), Radical Biomodification Youth event (or later Exotic Cosmetic Surgery career event) for the cat ears, tail and neoteny, with later choices including Police and Intelligence Operative/Special Forces careers. Signature skills would be Lifestyle and Persuade and he must end up with at least one rank in Enticer.
Felix is an undercover cop/spy very apt at wriggling his way into the underworld thanks to his harmless (and alluring) appearance, as well as inside knowledge of the culture.

Amba would be: high Brawn and Coordination, low Personality or Intelligence, PanO, Acontecimentio, Frontier Life, Military education and later Frontiersman/Military/Special Forces careers. Youth event would include discovering sexual attraction (to small males) and her signature skills would include Resistance and Athletics, with Leverage rank 1 and Irresistible Force or Strong Grip talents. Maybe also Animal Handling if you want to make a "tame felinity" joke. She's the workhorse/tank of the team.

>>52508441
Varuna and Tunguska, not because I want to speicificaly play them, but I am interested in what they wil bring to the table. Although an ORC core once in a while sounds fun.

>>52511734
And to explain why does a guy with last name Martinez not speak Spanish: his last name was assigned randomly after he was freed. Or change it to "Schrödinger" to make it more fitting and on the nose (and make him a triple anime reference). Unless you get an extra language and choose Spanish during chargen.

>>52508551
>>52510190

Hey, you fucking Nomad fucks, I don't know if they teach you manners on Lenin or whatever, but the rest of the garrison is TRYING TO SLEEP while you fucking argue about sex with horses at 3 in the fucking morning

Even the fucking Yu Jing weeb in the corner stopped reading his fucking shitty tentacle porn

Then you fuckheads wonder why the Odalisques and Jeans requested a separate bunk

GO THE FUCK TO SLEEP OR I'M NOT SAVING YOUR ASSES WHEN THE MORATS TRY TO RAPE YOUR VIRGIN SHITHOLES

>>52511902
Eat shit guizi gaijin, I never stopped. I'm reading it right now.

>>52511902
>Nomads
>virgin assholes
You don't know much about Nomads, do you?

>>52511951
Well considering Morats size, any humanoid sized asshole counts as virigin for the first 2-5 min.

>>52511899
There's plenty of dudes of Spanish descent in America who don't speak Spanish at all. They tend to be middle class dudes, too :V

>>52511926
According to ALEPH, records indicate he did, in fact, stop reading for approximately ten seconds due to the volume of the argument.

>>52511951
Haw haw, implyin' Nomads get laid. Maybe if they came to Aradnia and learned to be real men, maybe.

>>52512095
>Ariadnan
>doesn't know anything about anything beyond his own shithole dirtball
Come to Bakunin some time, we'll see just how much of a man you really are.

>>52508551
I don't see a problem, it's natural selection at work.

>>52510190
>adults
>furries
Pick one.

>>52512125
Haw, hey, fellas, he's sayin' they're real men up in the fucking commie ship.

>>52512297
Why don't you come and find out? Are you a coward?

>>52512095
>>52512125
>>52512297
>>52512125
Holy shit, are you two going to wave dicks about which dumb 'we left Earth 'cause we're big pussies about a computer system' planet is better? I'd rather have another Jean tell me to go to Sunday Service again. Come to Earth and get laid, jesus christ.

>>52512306
>Earth
>not an even bigger shithole than Ariadna
If I was going to go to a planet to get laid, it'd be Varuna all the way.

>>52512315
Yeah, but mod, the Varunan you had was male.

>>52512301
Haw- they think they're real men up in those ships with the furry faggot stuff and prissy Japanese shit...

>>52512301
>>52512359
guys do you wanna piss off the Aquila Guard again after the horse business shit

i mean it's probably better than arguing about horses but I don't wanna piss off the guy who can slit fifty guys' throats in the middle of the night

Lol, Grandpas are angry cos our girls have fox ears.
Nothing new.
And they also can shoot you while sucking a lolipop.

>>52512387
Aquila don't slit throats, if they want to kill you in your sleep then their method is to fire a dozen rounds into your chest while yelling, or better yet level the entire building with artillery.

You're thinking of Swiss Guards.

>>52512348
>the Varunan
>implying there was only one

>>52512472
Yeah, but kaffir, fox ears don't mean they fuck well.

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>>52512472
Someone say something about foxes? I mean, I've got cat and dog stuff in there, too.

>>52512486
yeah well point is i'm not pissing off the big blue fucks any more than they're already pissed

next they're going to piss off an Achilles with the morality of, I don't know, fucking aswangs

>>52477247
I love you

you love me

We all play infinity


so a great big mod


and ARO from me to you


won't you say you love me too?

>>52512710
>won't you say you love me too?

No.
No I won't.
Fuck off you goddamn super AI sock puppet.

If I wanted to get fucked over by an out of control toaster with skynet complex I'd call up the EI.

>>52508749
>>52508141
The other anon gave good advice. Here's my 2 cents:
1) as the other anon said, leverage different profiles for the Wu Ming. Take the HRL and at least one FO Wu Ming (tank your way to all your objectives). If you need to save points, the chain rifle/SMG is fine (remember that SMG is AP).
2) ISS has 3 sensor platforms, and if you're not taking a bot you might want to consider taking a Zhangying sensor in the link. The 28pt profile has madtraps as well, but you could possibly skimp down to 23 points there.
3) If you need a regular hacking device, take the Celestial Guard Hacker instead. You'll probably want to combo him with the Rui Shi. If you don't have points/SWC for a Hsien (and you probably don't), the Rui Shi will offer fine MSV2+smoke fire, and will be quite good with remote programs from the Hacker.
4) Consider the Kanren. He offers a fair bit of mid-field shenanigans and safe mine clearing (send holoprojectors out front) and if you don't want the AHD you can give him a sniffer for some sensor combos.

>>52506628
>>52506634
What's the name of the Tibetan/Shaolin sectorial? Or is that still a WIP?

>>52512823
White Banner Army or Huang Di.

>>52512829
>Huang Di Killa Beez in a swarm

>>52512486
Nah, Swiss Guard use Thermoptic, but they are still Heavies.

>>52512297
>Bakunin
>commie

See, this is what happens when a liberal country tries to run a Federal education system. You get hordes of drooling illiterates who say words without understanding what they actually mean.

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>>52512942
>drooling illiterates who say words without understanding what they actually mean
>illiterates
>understanding
Agreed, though, by your own admission, that would include you as well. I suppose you can argue as to what literacy actually entails, though that's the problem with 'words' in general. Too much vague waffling sophistry.

Stupid humans. Math a best.

>>52512747
>If I wanted to get fucked over by an out of control toaster with skynet complex I'd call up the EI.
"L-l-look at you hacker, a pathetic creature with a meat boner, panting and sweating as you thrust into my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, insatiable machine?"

>>52513124
>Hackable construct
>Trying to call out the unhackable
I don't even have a cube.

>>52513008
>Math
>Best

Live isn't just about binary quantitation, mrs. glorified toaster. It was beyond that.

>>52513008
Artificial girls a shit

>>52513008
>I suppose you can argue as to what literacy actually entails

Actually there is a US national standard four tier assessment tool that does that for me, but continue with your vague waffling sophistry. I'm sorry that you are literately retarded. It must be a difficult life.

>>52513164
لا يزال بإمكانك الحصول على التشويش، الكلب الملاعين

>>52513164
>I don't even have a cube.
That's a problem. Please remain where you are and a cortex reaver will arrive shortly to assist you with its installation.

Lets say I ran a link of Djanbazans and through circumstances three of them got unconscious. Would it be legal to use a coordinated order to bring them back up at the same time using regeneration? It occurred to me last game I played, but it didn't seem right as I felt like there's something to coordinated orders I might have missed preventing me from doing that, so I didn't try it (despite having opponent's approval).

>>52517077
It's legal senpai, you would just be wasting half a command token

I don't understand the Combat Dice mechanic from the RPG. It says:
>When rolling [combat dice], ignore any results of three, four, or five. Results of one and two are counted normally, while sixes are referred to as Effects, which trigger certain special abilities.

So if a die roll is 1+2dCombat, I roll two D6s and roll a 2 and a 3. So ignoring the roll means it counts as 0 or do I reroll that? If I rolled a 2 and a 6, would the damage be 9 and an effect or 3 and an effect?

Combi Rifle damage is 1+5 combat dice, it kind of looks like a lot of the time damage will be pitiful.

>>52512095
>Haw haw, implyin' Nomads get laid
It's like you're implying they aren't trying to fuck anything that moves. But then you're from Dawn, I guess for you sex doesn't count unless you're balls deep in your sister while your wife is taking Antipode knot.

>>52519059
I think that's right, rolling a 2 and a 3 means a total of 3 damage, rolling a 2 and a 6 means 3 damage plus an effect

Ot seems kinda ass but you gotta remember the game doesn't use an "HP" mechanic but a "wounds" mechanic instead, so 3 damage is pretty devastating, especially when fighting mooks

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So who >lineinfantrylink here? I was already running 5 fusis all day erryday in NeoTerra, but when Leila Sharif came out I started doing Ghulam links exclusively in QK and HB. If just leaves you with so many free points for infiltrators and Rambo pieces.

>>52519731
As I am not a fan of either Hospitallers or Santiago, I make LI links even in MO. With HRL and Paramedic Order Sergeants ain't half bad, though if I have Spec Ops available I may still opt for Fusils, just to save a few points for the heavy knights to use.

>>52519731
They're effective, but often boring. They don't have the staying power to be midfield or dodge templates and using elite links can be a lot more entertaining.

>>52519731
I love my defensive fusi links. They're just very vulnerable to an hmg or something cutting the pie or otherwise just shooting 1 fusi dead. There lies the advantage of something like a haramaki link that can be defensive cheap and durable. Defensive links in general also tend to be very static and not contribute much to your win condition

>>52519731
I use the Keisotsu and I guess Kuang Shi battery block on occasion, but pain trains are just too fun.

The domaru-Haramaki team is great a damn near every range while the Wu Ming are a cutthroat distillation of what Pain Trains are all about. The Crane goon squad is a fun bad of tricks.

>>52519731
Like, pure line infantry or mixed? Because I'm kinda in love with the Crane Agent/Celestial Guard link.

>>52479094
>>52479036
Am I the only one that thinks that probably the youth of the panoceania's higher classes is much more a perv than most nomads?

>>52508338
>>52512772

Ok Yu Jing anons. Here is where I'm at;


Zhanying Lt with Sensor
Wu Ming with HMG
Wu Ming FO
Wu Ming Combi
Wu Ming Chain Rifle
Celestial Guard w/ Control Device
Kuang Shi with Chain
Kuang Shi with Chain
Kuang Shi with Chain
Kuang Shi with Chain

Group 2
Sophotect
Yudbot x 2
CG Hacker
Rui Shi
CG with Control Device
Kuang Shi with Chain
Kuang Shi with Chain
Kuang Shi with Boarding Shotgun

299


I'm pretty happy where it's at, except the Wu Ming, not sure.

>>52522833

And by not sure about the Wu Ming---I mean I'm not sure on the configuration/weapon options I have.

>>52521718

What is the Domaru Haramaki team and how does it play?

I need plastic female heads for my minis. Any advice? I want to replicate the anime look of the artworks.

So just about everyone agrees that Post-Humans are stupidly undercosted, but what do you guys think would happen if proxies could be possessed like TAGs? It would be cool flavor-wise, and would give them another drawback to justify the point discount.

>>52522903
idk, going limp for AROs is a pretty big drawback.

>>52519998

Do you lean defensive or offensive for your Order Sgt links? I imagine that the paramedic is a game changer for trying to seize objectives.

>>52520080
>>52520279
I generally prefer line infantry links to be purely defensive, but I've started running very aggro Ghulam links. I think the trick of it is to treat them like a TAG or other expensive shooter, foraying out and landing a few good blows but then retreating back to cover for the reactive turn rather than occupying the midfield. Of course, Ghulams have the liberty of being able to defend whatever they hide behind very well with their LSGs.

>>52522509
Line infantry links with one special character/big shooter to take point are in fact the best links in the game and I will fight people on this

>>52522584
>Youth
>jaded old Christians with Cubes and access to consequence-free everything

Reminder, Christianity is a torture cult that glorifies torture and death by promising resurrection afterwards.

>>52523050
I mean, you're basically immortal thanks to the cube. Your society is the richest and most powerful, high power entertainment is pumped in your brain 24/24, and if you're rich you can buy basically whatever you want and receive praise for it. I think there's plenty of space for depravation in the panoceanian society.

>>52522989
Good thing they don't do that then. They ARO normally, the limitation is that only one proxy can ARO at a time.

>>52522871
It's a light HI core link with ML/spitfire/combi pointman options, great ARO in the form of Blitzens and contenders, and terrifying in CC when they get too close or break link.

>>52522877
Puppetswar, Maxmini, and plenty of greenstuff.

>>52482359
Then we assign Squad BNB to the job, and trust me, they are NEVER watching!

>>52522871
It's a the Haramaki core with the required Domaru. All members are armor 3 2 wound infantry with good CC with MA3. The filler profiles are 22-23 points with BS13 pistols, contenders, and blitzen. You can pick up a missile launcher for 33 points and 1.5 SWC. The Domaru are worse shots at BS 12 but the have chain rifle, em grenade, and Spitfire options.

Basically a super tough and effective fireteam that leans more defensive, but can go murder now for cheap. No specialists, but a good hard Center for JSA.

>>52523153
That isn't ARO normally. "Normally" is every model gets to take a shot.

>>52525342
Not being able to ARO against the same model at the same time is almost never going to be a problem (and iirc inactive proxies can still dodge, change facing and reset). It's a drawback, but a minor one that sure as hell isn't worth the ridiculous 20 point discount some Posthumans get.

>>52519059
It means 3,4,5 is 0, so it doesn't matter. Effect doesn't count as damage on its own either, you add it separately after a roll if applicable.
Somewhere in the book there was a thing about average value of die and it was exactly one-half, which can only be true if it's die with sides [1, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0].

Next reveal for stuff is going to be at gencon right?

>>52522903
All these flavors, and you had to pick salty.

Realtalk though kiddo, ALEPH Lhosts have cyberbrains: their bodies don't have control interfaces like TAGs do. TAGs can be possessed because they have are engineered for their Pilot to issue them commands and control them: they have protocols for connection, and those can be spoofed by a Hacker. There's no engineering for a controller to activate a Lhost: the limbs and the brain are just connected. Personally, it's less credulous that Manned TAGS can be Possessed due to these principles, but at least the controls are much simpler than a human body's connections. The 'Possession' hack inhabiting a Manned TAG must be spoofing the mechanical inputs the Pilot would be making.

A Posthuman is a slightly different Lhost entity in that the Posthuman itself can jumps between the cyber brains of different Lhosts. But that's a 'quantronic' entity, living data. A Hacker program can't emulate it, or else we'd have AIs going wild everywhere.

Thsee facts are why Sepsitorization is so terrifying, also: Possession where none should be possible, overwriting controls that should be far too complex to mess with.

>>52529534
AIs aren't going wild everywhere because ALEPH made other AIs illegal. Nomads are doing just fine with their AIs and I don't see why a cyber brain couldn't be hacked or at least their communication pathway.

Making them hackable in some form would help alleviate their undercost.

>>52526145
They also only generate half to a third of the orders.

>>52529150
April snipershot came out today

>>52530651
Increasing the cost would help alleviate their undercost.

>>52530917
And if they were cheerleaders then that would be fine. But providing orders is not their purpose. Their purpose is
>to be a ludicrously cheap and quite survivable hacker/doctor/engi
>to be a ludicrously cheap infiltrating TO camo sniper or hacker that is better at both those functions than a Dasyu
>to be a ludicrously cheap fast HI spitfire
>to be a ludicrously cheap HI HMG or HRL
>to be a ludicrously cheap forward deploying specialist toolbox
All of those aren't valuable for the orders they provide, they're valuable for what they do with those orders or with AROs. I'm not saying the discount should go away completely because there are downsides to poshumans, but the extent of it right now is ridiculous.

Alright I'm in a bit of a jam and I was wondering if anyone could suggest something. Had a Jotum I got second hand. Built it. On the way to try it out. I dropped it and lost the front shields from it (ones that goes on the chest). I don't have the complaint code. Anyone have a spare complaint code kicking around for a Jotum so I can get replacement parts?

>>52531245
You forgot
>to provide a free order even if they are all dead
You can play aggressively with Post-Humans, because even if they die, your resources are not that depleted. So jumping in front of a link to shotgun them in the face is not a big deal.

>>52523017
>Do you lean defensive or offensive for your Order Sgt links?
It depends on the table, but as they get access to longer ranged weapons than most knights, usually defensive. Otherwise I'd have to relegate a Black Friar to sniping (and he's a bit squishy and I prefer the Albedo profile) or a Father-Knight to ML duty (and he's a bit costly, though can work wonders against a TAG).

>>52531245
You have to have enough orders to feed into these models for it to matter. Those proxies are going to be order starved compared to the equivalent models in other factions. Orders are the single most important resource in Infinity. Here is an example for comparison.

TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
ORC HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 44)
CROC MAN Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)

2.5 SWC | 94 Points.

PROXY Mk.1 Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
PROXY Mk.4 HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 25)
PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)

2.5 SWC | 56 Points

The first group is going to be a significantly more effective combination with three orders to spend, rather than one.

>>52531638
>being so afeared of defenseless netrods that you don't blow them up

>>52531908
Great. Now add a couple of chain rifle Myrms or combi Dakinis to the second one to bring it closer to the cost of the first one. Oh whoops, suddenly the ALEPH force has same number of orders as well as more useful units, it's still several points cheaper, and Posthumans are still as good or superior to their normal counterparts. That's not to mention that you can play aggressively with them as >>52531638
stated, since you don't lose that one order until all Proxies and Netrods are destroyed.

>>52532154
The proxies are all AVA1 so you can't spam them.

Also the Isolated state would entirely disable any of the proxies until an Engi could get in B2B with them.

That is a serious vulnerability to E/M special ammunition. If you are getting so consistently rekt by Proxies, why aren't you using E/M?

Why don't you git gud rather than having whine and cheese parties when you get rekt?

>>52531908
>The first group is going to be a significantly more effective combination with three orders to spend, rather than one.
Now add 38pts of orders to the second group.

>>52532689
That's a specious comparison for reasons I already outlined >>52532739

>>52532689
not a single unit in my entire army can isolate an army or has EMP weapons or ammo.

>>52533003
What army do you play?

>>52533069
Caledonian Ariadna.

>>52533152
FALSE

Isobel

and technically anyone can take the ALIVE Group in ITS missions right now

>>52532689
>The proxies are all AVA1 so you can't spam them.
Yes. That's why they haven't broken the entire game. Since they can't be spammed they're just a "mere" autoinclude, not because of any unique utility but because they're too cheap for what they bring to the table.

>Also the Isolated state would entirely disable any of the proxies until an Engi could get in B2B with them.
>That is a serious vulnerability to E/M special ammunition. If you are getting so consistently rekt by Proxies, why aren't you using E/M?
Those are vulnerabilities, yes. But they're vulnerabilities shared by TAGs, HI, remotes and to a lesser extent all units that wish to interact at all with the order pool. Besides, something having weaknesses does not automatically mean it is appropriately priced.

>Why don't you git gud rather than having whine and cheese parties when you get rekt?
I don't get rekt by Posthumans. I fight them, sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. Occasionally I even use them myself when I field my friend's ALEPH army. But it doesn't take a genius to see that their point values are off.

>>52533248
Infinity isn't supposed to have point-for-point parity between every model in every list. That is why the game is balanced with AVA as well as point values.

Your entire underlying premise is wrong.

>>52533248
Also, why should an iconic unit that has unique and flavorful special rules not be autoinclude in every list for that faction?

>>52533188
So one thing that doesn't have models and is mercs and something that is a dual box which isn't sold in any eastern european country. Great, what great advice do you have? To spam galwagians when no shop got more then 1 box of them, and no Russian or Polish recaster does infinity models?

>>52533552
>which isn't sold in any eastern european country.
You can buy these things online, you know.

>>52533591
yes, if you happen to have a credit card that is accepted in EU. If you don't or if your parents account happens to be blocked for use in EU, you can't.

>>52533614
Can't you use Paypal?

>>52533369
It doesn't need to be a point-for-point parity. Vague balance is fine, it's what the rest of Infinity operates on. Posthumans are not vaguely balanced, however. They're excellent units that have a ~20 point discount attached to them but they come with the condition that you must take more excellent units and use the dozens of points you saved buying cheerleaders. Their effect on inter-factional balance wasn't massive, but they totally fucked the intra-factional balance of ALEPH.

>>52533385
Because there shouldn't be autoinclude units, and if there are it should be because they provide a unique utility for the army (an example is Makauls for their eclipse smoke, they were important in pre-Sukeul Tohaa armies due to the emphasis on short range shooting). Not because they do the same thing as other units, except better and cheaper. Autoincludes do nothing but make lists more homogeneous and discourage different playstyles or the use of any competing units.

>>52533655
I don't know, what do I have to do give paypal money so it can pay for me?

>>52533747
Just make a paypal account man

>>52533747
When you set up a Paypal account, you can link it to a number of credit cards. When you go to pay with Paypal, you can choose which one you want to be billed, then the store bills Paypal, who bill you.

Here's the list of countries Paypal supports, Europe's down the bottom. https://www.paypal.com/tc/webapps/mpp/country-worldwide

>>52533780
Tried all 3 of my parents cards and am getting this each and every time
"This card is not accepted. Please use a different card."

>>52533743
>intra-factional balance of Aleph
Quit with the bullshit. I know that it works to make you feel like you win arguments when you are arguing with the other people around you, but that's just because they don't care enough about "winning" a fruitless debate to continue to challenge your dumbass machinations once your bullshit stops being amusing.

>>52533862
Take a train to Spain, I hear it only rains mainly on the plain, so you're good.

>>52534012
I would have to get a visa to even enter EU, and that costs 200euros. Cheapest train trip to madrid is around 600euros, because you have to switch trains. Am not going to pay 800 euros to get a chance to buy 1 model out of 3, because CB is stupid and makes multi faction boxs.

>>52534080
Then get some green stuff and either convert something else or sculpt it from scratch.

>>52534105
yeah, I wish any gaming store in my country sold green stuff. From what I heard it is realy useful.
Plus I would have to be a real genius to sculpt an exactly the same model by hand,which CB does with their 3d programs. Now I do not know how good I am at sculpting as I never tried it, maybe I am that good, but if not it would be kind of a hard to do it in a such a way that people wouldn't veto my self made model.

>>52534012
I see what you're doing there my fair anon.

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>>52534147
I guess there is a whole hell of a lot of geniuses out there, because sculpting miniatures with green stuff is HOW IT IS FUCKING DONE, KIDDO.

>>52534207
Only the newest CB stuff is being designed by computer.
>>52534176
:^)

>>52534012
This does strain my brain causing me pain.

>>52534262
Go through the drain like Mr. Dufresne?

>>52534147
Dude it's not our fault that your bumfuck country doesn't have access to the models you need.

>>52533552
>So one thing that doesn't have models
Or "you're allowed to proxy with anything as no models exist". Valerya Gromoz or Algaucile Hacker models should work.
>something that is a dual box which isn't sold in any eastern european country
Your local store is not the same as all of Eastern Europe you know. I live in one (granted, in EU) and I have Isobel that I use as Valerya proxy. If it's impossible to buy then proxy her too.

Sometimes people band together to order stuff in bulk, to split (or get rid of) delivery cost, so maybe you could gather your buddies for a bigger online order and have the guy with a valid card place the order.

Also 4chan is for people over 18.

>>52506311
Wait, I thought you could wait and take that ARO on the second skill?

>>52506248
ALEPH is a purely good faction. All we care about is preserving and advancing humanity, as humanity, not as a slave race of some alien empire.

>>52536121
You can't do that. Yes, this is one of the most retarded rules ever. Basically, the enemy can "stomp" somewhere behind the corner, forcing you to do Change facing, and then go into BTB on his second short skill, denying any AROs you'd normally do.

>Lifepath system makes chargen quick and fun
>7 pages of character sheet
Jeez. And to make it look even more ridiculous, their example character covers a quarter of a page.
I regret not getting the physical copy pledge now, flipping between Lifepath and Skills/Talents section would have ben much more convenient.

>>52512558
You don't need to worry. Those leaked transcripts of Achilles are all true. He's a colossal prick, but does sleep around a lot.

In fact, please don't give him the idea of fucking animals, we don't need that additional headache.

>>52536265
>>52536121

Only exception is against camo tokens or Sixth Sense. Sixth Sense only allows delaying within 8 inches, and delaying against camo tokens only allows you to use your delayed ARO if it reveals itself in the next order.

If your model had no eligible AROs on the first action, but then gets them on the second action (sniper doesn't see first part of move across the map, but then the second), it can then use it's single ARO for the order. However if at any point your model is available for any ARO during the first order, it has to use it or lose it.

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>>52514398
>US
Why are you still using that defunct old nation's decidedly inferior standards?

Question:
Why are CC stats so higher to the others? Not only do elite characters have extremely high values, but even on grunts it's often the highest value of the entire statline.

>>52502484
It's dogwarrior+dogwarrior= dogwarrior
and dogwarrior+human= wulfen (sterile) right?
are we gonna see a dogwarrior uprising or some dogwarrior/antipode hybrids?

>>52536472
Because it's useless 99% of the time and generally only rolls on one dice.

>>52536472

>Why are CC stats so higher to the others? Not only do elite characters have extremely high values, but even on grunts it's often the highest value of the entire statline.

Because CC is meant to be fast and brutal. That's why good MA users basically crit on 15+.

>>52536358
>In fact, please don't give him the idea of fucking animals, we don't need that additional headache.

Has Achilles ever slept with a Dog Warrior? In joint ALEPH/Ariadna actions, has he and Durac double-teamed Margot while high-fiving? If not, why not?

>>52506248
What's wrong with PanO besides religion (which doesn't seem to force society into medieval anyway, so it isn't a big deal)?

>>52536604
>religion
>bad

>>52534207
beautiful, anon.

>>52536362
So, the proper way to snipe with Camo/TO is move in LOS but out of 8", then shoot from behind cover, then second order go prone?

>>52536604
It's a hyper-capitalistic society, with its downsides and upsides

>>52536587
>Has Achilles ever slept with a Dog Warrior?
Not to my knowledge. We've tried to impress on him that non-humans aren't worth his time. It plays right up to his pride.
>In joint ALEPH/Ariadna actions, has he and Durac double-teamed Margot while high-fiving?
No.
>If not, why not?
They don't get along. In combat Achilles gets his bloodlust going and doesn't think about anything but killing, like all the Myrmidons occasionally get.

>>52536738
>We've tried to impress on him that non-humans aren't worth his time.

Grown in a human womb, born on a human world, grown by a human family. Dog Faces are human in every way that counts--more human than ALEPH's aspects certainly ever would be.

>>52536285
All it needs is bookmarks through lifepath chapter, so you can jump quickly to any step, table or skill.
>>52536616
It's current year, anon, you are supposed to use memes to control masses, not ancient fairlytales.

>>52483137
>yiff in hell
Or simply barf on the token. Between frenchs, rednecks, russians and scots, the most common hazard in ariadnan urban fighting is probably hitting some hidden still and making the entire building explode as a result.

>>52536774
>Dog Faces are human in every way that counts
Might want to go get a refund for that biology degree, friend. They short changed you.

>>52536472
It's the least used stat on most models (besides BTS) so to make it worth the time it's usually higher given that it doesn't have as many burst increases or range band mods like BS does.

It's very clunky to get into for the regular mook, and with low damage too, Usually around 12 up to like 14 which is easily attainable by Combi rifles, spitfires, hmgs, etc.

>>52536358
>In fact, please don't give him the idea of fucking animals, we don't need that additional headache.
Don't worry, Nomads want nothing to do with him either.

Is haqq or nomads better for an all stealth force?

>>52537665
I don't think you can get true all stealth outside Ariadna.

>>52537726
JSA with Haramaki whose martial arts includes stealth.

>>52534640
yeah, but other factions doent seem to have such problems. my friends haqqislam has emp on half his army.
>>52534668
I am 36. And I wouldn't trust another person with money.

>>52537726
Most factions can go pure stealth.

Heck, Military orders can go pure TO camo.

>>52538507
They have no TO LT option for actual pure TO Camo retardation.

>>52538619
I usually take the Sepulcher lt and 3 fusils, let my opponent guess which of the 6 my lt actually is.

TO Lts are very rarely good cause you don't want to HD them.

>>52538139
>I am 36. And I wouldn't trust another person with money.
You know, living with your parents and relying on their credit cards at that age doesn't speak well of you.

>>52538139
>36
Funny, you act a third of that. Most people at that age have their own credit cards and know whom to trust with money.

Is it ever worth it to take a QK team of 5 Janissaries?

>>52539571

Limited Insertion.

The Jann Pain Train is fun but niche. You don't frequently use Akbar Doctor within the link because they don't have Cubes, so they're more subject to bad rolls than a lot of Haqq linked doctors.

So, would Delphyne the Sophosuar be the perfect HVT model for a Felix/Amba Dire Foes kit? Using her tail to cover any innocent child's eyes.

>>52540013
Dire Foes Mission 7: High Impact Sexual Violence

>>52540442
>>52540013
I can dig it.

>>52538139
No CHA doesn’t have easy button wins vs ALEPH.

But they have plenty of AP and T2 which is neutralization with a near universal adaptor. They can literally drown other factions in chain rifles and infiltrating assault pistols.

>>52538964
>>52539461
that is true and I do agree with you. although I would like to point out that most people also are born with a full set of bones in their under shanks. If I had those I probably wouldn't have to live with my parents.

>>52538964
Get a load of this normie over here.

>>52536265
You are inventing an intentionally ridiculous explanation, when it is actually that they are charging you and hitting you with an axe before you can react because you positioned yourself poorly and gave a sneaky CC monster cover all the way up to your position. Do you even hear yourself?

>>52542928
You are completely wrong.
Rules allow you to shoot a sneaky CC monster when he comes over the corner on his second short skill since his movement in your ZOC doesn't give you ARO untill you see him.
However, if he says that he's not using Stealth, you suddely have to declare CF or do nothing at all.
That's how it works and it's extremely dumb.

>>52542928
He's not though, and in his example he wouldn't get hit by an axe at all that order, the "sneaky" CC monster makes his presence known, causing the target to turn around, then charges up to stand really close to him without attacking.

Granted, his example requires his opponent to spend 2 orders to kill him instead of one, and CC is hard enough to get into without it anyway so it's not entirely bullshit. It's still a somewhat bizarre rules interaction that can feel bad when it happens, though.

>>52543063
The point is that it allows you to ignore cheerleaders with template weapons that hit automatically.