>PC on table with highest INT >keeps saying stupid things

>>52463116
>playing a low int, poorly educated character
>keep having to resist the urge to immediately answer my GM's "challenging" puzzles
>text them to the party wizard instead to fast forward through his head scratching

>Playing a high charisma character
>keep on fucking up social situations, either through lack of information or own incompetence

wew lad

>>52463116
That's my problem, I'm pretty stupid in real life and whenever I play high int characters I fuck up.

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>>52463116
>PC on table who can cast spells
>Can't use magic in real life

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>>52463116
>tfw I have this problem except I'm the DM
There's this villain who's supposed to be a genius, not just by orcish standards but even by elven standards. I'm incredibly afraid of having him do something stupid.

>>52463405
I think "genius" villains doing stupid shit has become a trope at this point. Don't worry about it.

Someone send help, my barbarian player won't stop screaming and squatting

>>52463389

Reminds me of our self statting campaign. We split schools of magic into analogous hard sciences, so if you didn't have at least a bachelor's in physics or Chem or something, you couldn't play an arcane character. It was a low magic setting, and a bachelor's only let you cast up to 4th level.

>>52463116
>those stupid things are actually genius
Problem solved.

>>52463405
There's a limit to human intelligence. Even Mensa members and shit make mistakes and poor judgement calls. If he's got an Int score of like 25 then you can always just deus ex machina some bullshit thing he had "had planned the whole time!" but that's kinda shitty regardless.

>>52463116
INT only controls your ability to succeed on knowledge checks and Investigate. It doesn't determine what words you say.

>>52463575

That sounds pretty autistic and elitist towards players who aren't scientists, anon. TBQH.

>>52463575
Do environmental science majors get druidry? Do music majors get to play bards? Do theology majors get to play clerics?

Did nobody play any sort of martial character?

You sound like the fucking Big Bang Theory.

>>52463116
>play a stupid or uncharismatic character
>still end up doing all of the dialogue and investigation because everyone else is just waiting to be led around by the nose

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>>52464950
Holy fuck this. The worst is when the cunts you have to lead through the campaign complain that you become the "protagonist", even though they are the ones that completely refuse to take the initiative even when they are given all the chances and hooks in the world.
IT AIN'T MY FUCKIN' FAULT I LIKE TO PLAY THE DAMN GAME YOU SHITS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>52463165
>playing high charisma character
>constantly drunk whenever in town because character is an alcoholic
>have to roll all my checks at disadvantage
>still pass

Roleplaying this character is killing my body.

>>52465110

Robert Downey Jr.?

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>>52463116
>This thread again

>>52465013
I know how you feel. This is but a sample of my previous campaign.
>RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M THE FUCKING BULLYWUG FIGHTER YOU FREED FROM SWAMP ELVES!!! WHY AM I TALKING TO THE KING !!!!

>>52466084
kek, he is a manlet elf bard too

>>52463575
I'm a Ranger School graduate, does that mean I can only play a ranger?

Does my lack of a college degree mean I have the option of playing a Barbarian?

Do I have to play a Dwarf because I'm a metalworker by trade?

>>52463575
>tfw you have working knowledge of several fields of sciences, but don't have a degree in any because it's too expensive.
Does that make me a sorcerer anon?

>>52463575
So if you didn't have any military, martial art, or other fighting training you couldn't play as a fighter, right? Or would you just have -5 to all your rolls?

>>52463447
Give him an axe and point him in the right direction, might as well get something useful.

Like lumber

>>52463575
If I beat the tar out of everyone else at the table, do I get a bonus to strength?

>>52463575
I don't know why everyone is so angry with that post. It sounds like a fun campaign between a bunch of academic friends. I have a BSc in bio, what school do I cast? Am I a druid?

>>52466524
>>52466432
>>52466333
>>52464922
>>52464892
Did you not get that was the specific theme of that specific campaign they played or are you actually this ragingly autistic

>>52468420
did you wanna suck my benis like your mum did last night?

>>52465013

I joined a Rogue Trader game that had already been going for a while, taking the RT role after the previous NPC one died. The rest of the party doesn't seem to have too much initiative on their own, so I guess it's a good thing that I'm playing the de facto leader. Unfortunately for them, I'm also playing the RT as a mix of horribly incompetent bumbling fuckup and horrifyingly competent smoothtalker, the end result being that he gets otherwise reasonable and rational NPCs to go along with his absolutely godawful ideas. They occasionally turn out wonderfully, because god damn can the guy power through most scenarios with charm and a refusal to acknowledge any and all problems, but the stressful situations he keeps putting everyone in is prompting the other players to start being more proactive.

It's great fun.

>>52463575
Sounds kinda fun
Too bad I dropped out of college

>>52468420
>say something autistic and get made fun of for it
>wow guys can't you see I was being autistic ironically? What a bunch of faggots you guys are

>>52468704

I don't think he mentioned or even implied any use of irony in their decision, anon. You seem angry about something.

>>52463575
So what if you've got three majors?

Would a pilots license get me anything?

Would my characters starting wealth be based off my current real world assets?

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>>52463116
>it's "muh statistics OOC/IC mismatch" episode on /tg/ again
DO YOU ALSO COMPLAIN WHEN A SCRAWNY MANLET PLAYS A FIT MUSCLED BARBARIAN, YOU FUCKING RETARD?
YEAH, I GET IT, YOU WANT MENTAL AND SOCIAL STATS TO MATCH WITH THE PLAYER'S, BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT IT - THEN DON'T PLAY SYSTEMS WHERE INTELLIGENCE, CHARISMA OR WISDOM ARE STATS, YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT.

>>52468704
>Hey guys! We're all college grads, and wizards have universities and do magical research. Why don't we do a campaign where we studied magic instead of science?
>Hey yeah that sounds fun! Since I'm a physicist does that mean...

I'm not even the guy you're arguing with, and the only autistic people in this thread are the NEETs who are offended that formally educated people exist in the world.

>>52468867

It depends. If the people in the game were indeed all scientists, then its fair, but if its a group of scientists playing with neets and barring them from having fun then it's just elitist and mean, unless they at least give them a balanced alternative set of options.

>>52468921
> barring them from having fun
You can stop someone from having fun????

>>52468921
>playing with neets
>without the intention of mocking, humiliating them and driving them to suicide
>ever

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>>52468973

You can by stopping them from performing the action or undergoing the process which makes them experience said fun, anon.

>>52463389
>DM: "Alright, so it looks like you'll have to solve this murder mystery. Where do you want to start investi-"
>That Guy: "lol I roll Intelligence to figure out who did it XDDDDDDDDDD"

Followed by:

>DM: "Uh, you can't just do that..."
>That Guy: "Muh agency! That DM! Le Railroad! XDDDDDDDDDDD"

>>52469009

Remove Intelligence and Wisdom from the game, replace them with Education and Intuition.

Charisma can stay as an add-on to social checks, not the be-all-end-all.

I actually did something similar, as a test to weed out autists.

STR martial? 45 pushups.
DEX martial? 100 m in 11 seconds or less.
High CON? Hold breath for 200 seconds.
INT caster? STEM degree.
WIS user? If divine caster, a demonstration of belief. If not, solve ten zen coans in my presense.
CHA class? A thorough interview with your SO present. If bard, a demonstration of creative talent. Published works preferred.

If you can do none, you have no place at my table. So is if you try nd fail. Only those who call me out on this bullshit are actually considered and may get to the table if they're okay dudes/dudettes in general.

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>>>52466333
>doesn't have a degree
>wants to be a barbarian
Better hope you know flower arranging.

>>52469342

>INT caster
>STEM degree

Le only STEM degrees equate to being intelligent

>>52469872

It's not a requirement, but it is an easy way to be sure.

>>52469956

You can be pretty inteligent whilst having a degree or qualification in other fields, although I agree that in general you can be sure someone with a STEM degree at least has decent mathematical or critical thinking skills, whereas other academic fields may grant degrees that are a bit wishy washy. I'd consider people doing plumbing, Translation, Economics, Mechanic work. Philosophy, Eletrician work, smithing/metalworking, music etc to be fairy inteligent as well,

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>>52463405
Don't stress about this too hard.

Step 1
Just take the time to ensure that he always has two backup plans so he can keep going 'all according to keikaku' or whatever.

Step 2
If you have more gamer friends outside of your game group, take the one who is most likely to help you and explain the character and the situation. There's plenty of people who don't have time to game regularly, but have the knowledge, creativity, and knowhow to help run an npc and come up with cunning plans, traps, defenses, and plottwists relating to a villain.

Step 3
Even if you fail as the villain or do something incredibly dumb, that's ok. Have a good in game explanation for why he couldn't utilize all of his intelligence. Maybe he approached a topic too emotionally, maybe he was betrayed by some underling at a critical point, maybe he just has some sort of blind spot. Afterwards it will help explain the story around the villain better and reinforce your player's suspension of disbelief.

Finally, good luck.

>>52463405
Geniuses are largely very persistent idiots.

>>52469872
>>52470000
The spoiler explains all.

>>52470000
that's just not true though. like, none of it. even people who get art degrees will tend to have a higher IQ than someone who does skilled labor like plumbing or carpentry as a career.

>>52463389
But he can roleplay using magic, does he?

It's not about being smart, or charismatic, it's about succesfully pretending you are in a controled environment for a limited period of time.

>>52470301
We're all just foolin here.

>>52470229

ah I see, tis a test of spirit.

>>52470251
>IQ is an objective numerical IRL stat point demonstrator for a difficult to define concept composed of a series of cognitive functions

>>52470029
legit good advice
two heads are better than one

>>52470330
It's also the strongest predictor of future success and the ability to win in competitive games like chess.

>>52470322
Sometimes it's hard to tell in /tg/.

>>52470359
>the strongest predictor of future success
I bet you really believe that.

>>52469956
You'd be surprised. Sometimes I really wonder how some of these people got their degrees.

>>52470359

I'm not sure I buy that it's the strongest predictor of future success, but I can believe it might be the best indicator of chess skill. I'm not saying IQ tests are meaningless and inconsequential and not demonstrative of anything whatsoever, I'm saying they're flawed and reductionist. Sure, they can probably somewhat measure some skills and specific cognitive functions, but not the whole span of capabilities of the human mind.

>>52463389
I am an amateur illusionist. Does that count?

>>52470398
It is. Children with high IQ are more likely to be wealthy in late adulthood then wealthy children without high IQ

>>52470455
>then
than

>>52470455
You're likely to be successful if daddy knows successful people

>>52470435
Not reductionist, just a generalization. I don't think people who create IQ tests claim to measure 'the whole span of capabilities of the human mind', but they can pick out the smarties from a group of individuals

>>52470525
I'm not saying that doesn't happen, of course it does some time. But if daddy knows successful people it's probably because he's successful, which would probably because he has a high IQ, like the successful people he knows, and you probably have a high IQ as well, because you're the offspring of a high IQ individual.

>>52470547

That's the thing, being "smart" or having that word, or using "inteligence" as a word to measure all the individual particular capabilites a human mind has, is reductionist, I think. Some people may read particularly fast, or have great memory, or have really good spacial awareness, or be able to visualize objects in their minds and rotate them easily, or have great arithmetic skills or perfect pitch of fuck knows. IQ does give you a good general indicator of the particular traits it does measure, which seem to be skills related to logic in itself like geometrical puzzles, mathematical ones, riddles, etc, but it can't measure everything. In fact, certain people that have shit IQ scores may happen to be excellent at other things, such as emotional manipulation.

Let's not forget that skills related to balance and dexterity also stem mostly from the brain btw (although to group them with "inteligence" is far fetched, but the point is that they originate in your organ responsible for other cognitive tasks)

>>52470746

>Let's not forget that skills related to balance and dexterity also stem mostly from the brain btw (although to group them with "inteligence" is far fetched,
That's exactly why IQ tests are meant to measure what the creators of the tests and people in general call 'intelligence'. They're not saying people with high IQs are necessarily good at emotional manipulation or dexterity, or that people with low IQs can't do shit. They're specifically measuring 'intelligence.'

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>>52463165
>play a high charisma character
>make convincing out-of-character explanations, arguments, and sales pitches
>"roll for it"
>fucking >10 every time
>"the guard doesn't believe you were in the alleyway taking a piss, roll initiative"

>>52470825

I used balance and dexterity as examples of skills linked to the brain to show that the brain is in charge of more than one type of ability, but maybe that was a poor example. The emotional manipulation one isn't, though. That requires literal "inteligence": The ability to read a person, to register subtle body cues, to act in a certain way whilst being aware of your posture, tone of voice, physical contact, to have a quick mind and tongue. That all related directly to what one would conventionally refer to as intelligence.

I guess I'd say "Inteligence" might be measured accurately by these tests in regards to what a common person would refer to as inteligence, but perhaps this common understanding of what inteligence is is in itself inherently flawed and doesn't take into account the other mental capabilities you may have that make up what I'd personally refer to as intelligence.

>>52470589
>But if daddy knows successful people it's probably because he's successful, which would probably because he has a high IQ
He's successful because he knows successful people. It's very much an in club kind of thing where opportunities come to those in the right places. IQ isn't very relevant unless you're somewhere on the far ends of the spectrum.

>>52470905

I always run it such that a Charisma and/or social skill check is required, but giving a good argument gives you better odds via a bonus or lowered DC. It's a lot easier to convince the guard you're actually an undercover cop than it is to convince them you're God, but at the same time, even a convincing argument can be foiled by poor presentation.

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>>52468420

>>52463148
I know that feel. I was doing an adventure as a pretty stupid orc who had a pretty intelligent party when we found a magically sealed door with this written next to it. I figured it out pretty fast but my friends took way longer.

Another one was yet another magic door that said
O T T F F S _ _ _
and yet again the rest of the party couldn't figure it out.

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>>52471088
forgot my pic

>>52471030

If they're a bunch of degree-holders and/or they're all fine with the premise, what's the problem?

I mean, it sounds like even those with degrees are limited in caster selection by the nature of their degree. An Environmental Science major might be limited to playing a Druid. Maybe a Physics major can only take Evocation and Abjuration. Perhaps Enchantment requires Psychiatry or Neuroscience. Maybe Bards require being able to play an instrument or holding a Fine Arts/English degree. Rogues require knowing how to pick a lock, crack a safe, scale a rock wall or do magic tricks. Fighters require you to practice Fencing or MMA.

You're taking a weird degree of offense at someone who gave an example of something he and his group did: something he didn't even recommend others do.

>>52470976
Of course nepotism and networking play a role, and I"m sure there are some people who can find their way into success even lacking IQ (although if you just look at the statistics higher IQ people are consistently more successful so it's a bit strange to argue this anyway).
There are some things you are forgetting to consider.
1. why does this person know successful people? there can be many causes, but certainly having some skill or ability which make him valuable to a successful person would be one of the more common causes.
2. Why are the successful people he knows successful in the first place? Again, of course nepotism and being friends with the right people is a factor, but of course a more intelligent person is going to have the upper hand in trying to succeed at something than someone not so intelligent.
3. Decay success. If a successful person is less intelligent, say they lucked their way into success somehow, they are more likely to eventually fail than a more intelligent counterpart. Additionally, 'unworthy' people who get into successful positions only because they know successful people are more likely to fail once they get the job they weren't qualified for
4. Intelligence is a heritable trait. If intelligent, successful people are favoring family members, be they children or cousins, they are incidentally favoring intelligent people.

>>52471100
That doesn't even count as a cypher jesus christ man how can it take more than an attosecond to "solve" that mellon shit?

>>52470916
>I guess I'd say "Inteligence" might be measured accurately by these tests in regards to what a common person would refer to as inteligence, but perhaps this common understanding of what inteligence is is in itself inherently flawed and doesn't take into account the other mental capabilities you may have that make up what I'd personally refer to as intelligence.
I don't think it's a problem for those mental abilities which fall outside the realm of what's considered 'intelligence' to be seen as different things. I mean, discriminating between different things with different words we can use to refer to them is kind of the point of having language in the first place. So people know exactly what we're trying to talk about when we decide to use words.

>>52471100
>>52471147
>>52471088

I can't solve these...

>>52471147
spoke too soon
>>52471191

>>52468824
> real life dumbass got triggered
Kek. Go play a barbarian anon.

>>52471199

Yea I'm very stupid I actually only play stupid characters because I can't play anything else properly

>>52471156

The issue is that when people think of intelligence, they just tend to this of it as "brain power". How would you define inteligence?

>>52471243
I actually really liked your definition (assuming you're the same guy)
"That's the thing, being "smart" or having that word, or using "inteligence" as a word to measure all the individual particular capabilites a human mind has, is reductionist, I think. Some people may read particularly fast, or have great memory, or have really good spacial awareness, or be able to visualize objects in their minds and rotate them easily, or have great arithmetic skills or perfect pitch of fuck knows. IQ does give you a good general indicator of the particular traits it does measure, which seem to be skills related to logic in itself like geometrical puzzles, mathematical ones, riddles, etc, but it can't measure everything. In fact, certain people that have shit IQ scores may happen to be excellent at other things, such as emotional manipulation."
I'm sure a dictionary definition would be good enough though.

>>52471191

anon please tell me the answer I'm dumb but I wanna at least be in on it

>>52471307
sent you a pm with the answer

>>52463116
>person is roleplaying
>is actually not playing a self-insert character
>bad thing
Yea how about you go and fuck yourself with a pitchfork please

>>52469342
I'd equate 100 m in 11 seconds with STR personally

>>52471321
Thanks anon, it helped.

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>>52471321

anon cmon please don't be mean

>Modern setting with people that are suppose to be normal people thrust into extraordinary things
>Takes two hour for players to figure out how they would get a spare hour to meet up on something while keeping the characters jobs and family matters in order. This none of them have a steady job for more than a year and live with their parents.
It's like the people with the most time for roleplaying can't even roleplay normal people due to lack of experience.

>>52471307
The first one is "speak friend and enter". I'll leave the means of solving out as an exercise for you.

>>52471377


the first one? I thought they were both the same thing and anon forgot the picture, maybe that's why I was confused.

>>52471191
neither can I, but I don't even know what the puzzle is supposed to be

>>52471377

oh it's obvious now, thanks. I don't knwo what the one with the magical door and missing spaces is, though.

>>52463405
>>52463405
High intelligence comes with a cost. You don't get to be super intelligent without getting a mental draw back. He could be a rocket science or a chess master but he's so rational that he's terrible at dealing with other people as they don't act rational. Or he could get flustered when he's defied which makes his anger over ride his intelligence.

Lots of way to make a genius into a retard.

>>52469342
What about the people who go through with it because it sounds like fun to try and bullshit your way through/entertainment for everyone involved even if you fail?

>>52471377

I mean, that much is obvious to me- I'm not that guy, just saying- but then what does OTTFFS_ _ _ translate into? Even using the cipher, it's still just BGGSSF_ _ _, which is just as incomprehensible.

>>52471447
>High intelligence comes with a cost. You don't get to be super intelligent without getting a mental draw back.
Only if you're using point buy characters. With rolled stats and genetics you can get a character of your example or one of many others.

>>52470251
>art degree
>intelligent
Pick one, anon

>>52471371
You know what's worse? When the GM is like that. No character will ever act normal.

>>52471479
OTTFFSKYS

Oh Trash Tits, For Fuck's Sake Kill Yourself

>>52471479
That's a separate puzzle, hence the "another one was"

Those letters and three spaces were all we got and I solved it almost instantly

>>52471481
Optimism is a flaw of low wisdom, not intelligence.
or a sign of high wisdom I suppose

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>>52463116
I always use Int as a dump stat because I know I'm not so bright. I don't know if this makes me smart or not either.

>>52471475
Depends on the attitude. Those you described sound like decent guys and get in anyway.

It was like a litmus test for tryhards and social failures.

>>52471088
[O]ne [T]wo [T]hree [F]our [F]ive [S]ix [S]even [E]ight [N]ine
>>52471100
SPEAK FRIEND AND ENTER

>>52468921
but anon, you have no way of knowing whether or not they did that kind of thing. Why would you make a retarded assumption like that

>>52471628

By the way it was written, it seemed to me like that was what you were implying. My bad I guess.

>>52471568
Stick with average INT and you just can't lose. If you get told that your character is too dumb for a certain decision, you can say that he's as intelligent as you, and you came up with it. If you can't solve something, then you're justified in admitting it.

>>52471622

oh my fucking god how did I not get the first one I'm a fucking mongoloid I shouldn't be allowed to play tabletop games

>>52471622
I demand more simple puzzles to make me feel stupid.

>>52471669
M T W T _ _ _
I mean it's gonna be too easy since it's too similar to the earlier one but if you can't solve this one...

>>52471698
MTWTFSS

>>52471669
>3 3 5 4 4 3 5 5 4 ?

>>52471664
Don't be so hard on yourself. Natural intelligence really doesn't matter if you act kind towards others, work hard towards your goals and try to be content with your life choices.

>>52469342
You're not meant to solve zen koans. I hope you're just baiting for (you)s.

>>52471735
see
>>52470229

>>52471726

no I'm a fucking morron my dad has an IQ of 160 and my sister has extremely good grades and is an acrobatic champion I'm a fucking loser I wish my mother didn't drink and smoke while she was pregnant with me

>>52471756
Well, it's not your fault. Just don't worsen your situation. Try to fix it if you want, it's very possible.

>>52471749
Yeah, I noticed shortly after posting. He might be serious about the part where he thinks you're supposed to solve koans though.

>>52471708
6?
I'm shit with math and tend to overthink anything with numbers

>>52471708
Felt dumb for having to google this but It didn't come naturally because I'm not a native speaker

>>52471783
No, obviously I'm not. It's bait, only IRL.

>>52471799
Ten has 3 letters.

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>>52471819

>>52471857

I know, I'm a fucking idiot. I'm never gonna have kids so they don't end up retarded like me.

>>52471894
That pic was about me fucking up. I always find these puzzles fun even when I'm doing tremendously bad though. Don't be too hard on yourself anon

>>52471479
OTTFFS_ _ _
One
Two
Three
Four
etc.

>>52471532
Alright, then what was the answer?

>>52471807
>It didn't come naturally because I'm not a native speaker
As someone that don't like to blame himself I will put blame on it.
As first 1-9 riddle would be for me:
R D T C P S _ _ _ S O D

I probably wouldn't be able to solve it either way

>>52471982
Oh sorry I didn't notice >>52471622 already gave the answers. BRB killing myself for being a retard

>>52472004
Do they use these on IQ tests? I remember seeing these puzzles in high school and just not getting it at all, by brain would check out.

>>52472023
It's ok there's plenty of us feeling retarded together.

>>52472047
It tests the ability or at least tendency to make associations between different categories of things, really.

>>52472088
I remember one was "1001AN" and I didn't get it even though I'd just read a few stories from the collection a couple months before.

>>52472004
Are you a slav?

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Ok, I probably made this way too hard and illogical but it works! Heck I noticed it works two ways but only one of them will give you a proper sentence

>>52468527
Inspector Clouseau?

>>52470251
D&D intelligence is a measure of learned information and speed of learning.
Those professions all require a lot of learning.

>muh art
The number of craftsmen who
• CAN free hand perfect circles
• CAN free hand long straight lines
• CAN eyeball lengths to a 1/10th of an inch
is almost a spooky as the number of artists who
• CAN'T draw short straight lines using a straight edge
• CAN'T follow image composition
• CAN'T explain Piet Mondrian's Composition with Large Red Plane, Yellow, Black, Gray, and Blue

>>52470905
>>52471020
Pretty sure that rule is in most skill sections.

>>52472346
>craftsmen
*draftsmen
Autocorrect can yiff in hell.

>>52472265
>DLC BUA...
Alright, you got me. Maybe after I go eat, something will come to me.

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>>52463575
You should have told your DM that if he hadn't written a New York Times Bestseller then he couldn't run the game.

>>52463575
>Compsci student pursuing Bachelor
Fucking hell, do I at least get Enchantment or something?

>>52472376
Maybe I should have made it more clear that the Z isn't really part of that formation. I also considered doing sort of what you thought I was doing but it's actually simpler than that

>>52472265
Man its just a pretty innocuous cipher, its not "illogical" it goes 1:1 for each letter.
kpaq qjjw cjd sj kjtq?

>>52463575

What do I get if I study Languages/Translation/Linguistics and I sing?

>>52472500
Duh Bard College of Lore

>>52472500
pussy

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>>52472546

lol yeah right

>>52472532

I guess you're right. I gotta get better at guitar and lift/become /fa/ before I can be a proper bard of lore though

>>52472499
>kjtq
I think you mean xjvq
I made the same mistake several times putting the original image together. Really should have made it a one way thing

>>52470976
http://time.com/money/3925308/rich-families-lose-wealth/
I don't think this practice is as common as you think.

>>52472265
here's what i know

J,W, and N are vowels,

W may be I, A or U since they don't repeat as much as other vowels

J and N will either be E or O since they repeat.

>>52472581
I was thinking of having a campaign being that there was a demon threatening to possess the king, and the court's jester, who had known the king for a long time, offered to take his place under the reasoning that he could get away with a lot more without attracting attention. The clown had prepared to have this done just in time for a group of clergy to come in and banish him, but the demon thought quickly and managed to escape.
So now a demon-possessed clown is forming a rogue band of forces to find and possess the king, and the king wants the demon's body in one piece so that he can give the man who sacrificed his life for him a proper burial.

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Don't know how I'd hint at the solution in a more subtle way, maybe it became too obvious

>>52472764
Nope. Still impressed
>>52472499
managed to figure it out

>>52471622
Well I feel like a goober now.

>>52472781
without even trying the code is it Nurgle?

>>52472981
No that would be LEHSNU

>>52472546
Tiu viro pravas.

That guy is right.

>>52473092

IDK Anon I speak 3 languages at 20 years old and feel like that's nothing and wanna learn more if I am to do anything with my translation as a profession instead of doing fuck all with my degree, because these skills honestly impress no girls. Well, if I sing at a party, girls go "wow, you're really good" and either leave it at that, ask me to sing for them at some event or join in with their own shitty rendition.

>>52472781
heresy

>>52463116
Why are the high INT PCs always guaranteed to be the stupidest players.

Or the High CHA Bard that refuses to RP and just wants to roll dice and add his +10.

>>52473139
Good job anon. Might make more of these some other day

>>52473176

God how do people figure things like this out, it absolutely perplexes me how people do these things which are absolutely mentally astounding for people like me and yet it's not even particularly diffcult, I'm just dum. I really wish I was smart.

>>52471088
forcing completely unrelated random puzzles like this into campaigns is the dumbest shit ever. Might as well just throw the newspaper at the group and go "yeah solve the jumble and the crossword if you want to go through here" (while the GM takes a smoke break). Heh like in every other video game there's a tower of hanoi puzzle or a sliding tile puzzle like fuck off this doesn't add anything you uncreative shit.

>>52463575
Very few house rules are bad every group. This is literally just being a douche.

>>52473200
You can still do cool shit even if you aren't particularly intelligent. Dedication and openness can get you a long way in terms of craftsmenship and understanding of the world around you.
Also maybe you could give meditating a shot. You'll be surprised what you come up with when you don't try to force anything to happen.

>>52472346

That's because postmodernism has infected and nearly killed high art, by pushing the idea that skill and craft don't matter (and even unironically pushing "de-skilling" as part of the educational process for artists).

>>52472781
Inner square of 9 jumps over the M. Outer square jumps to other corner.

>>52472346
>>52473316
Drawing perfect circles and perfect straight lines is what fine art is all about. what the fuck am I reading here

>>52470359
>tfw IQ of 163
>tfw 27 and still a worthless highschool dropout NEET
>tfw no face

>>52473451
IQs are a meme, anon.

>>52473316
Nigga, high art is what happens when people have moved on to a new medium and the ones whoare still attached to it are left to rot in an insulated space. It isn't relevant to the zeitgeist at all.

Normal people wouldn't give a damn about fine art, no matter how it presented itself.
Art is to be found where the ideas of a time clash with each other. For us that means it's to be found on the internet.

>>52473243
>REEE, STOP POINTING OUT THAT IM STUPID
Some people enjoy this sort of thing anon

>>52473451
>IQ of 163
>isn't smart enough to understand that one example doesn't disprove a general trend
pressing square to doubt right now

>>52473451
No result above 130 means anything

>>52473131
Kanti estas esti bela, sed lingvoj estas iloj por kompreni homojn. Mi pensas ke gxi estas la plej importa ulo en la mondo. Tio estas jxus min.

>>52463116
welcome to role-playing games, newfriend

>>52473484
yeah no doubt, those layton games are the bee's knees, but injecting that kind of abstract puzzle as if it's a thoughtful way to break up your boring dungeon crawl is just lazy. don't have puzzles that are completely detached from the world and the characters. that's bad GMing.

>>52470359
If you define "success" as possessing the ability to learn skill sets at a higher pace and in greater depth than other people and being more likely to end up in a well-paid position or starting a successful business as a result, sure.

>>52473483

I don't like art, I like individual pieces of art.

>>52470029
>last step is good luck
>not have fun

>>52472265
>>52472781
ALB CUD?
Am I just using the wrong reflection type?

>>52468420
Its the theme itself that's autistic you sperg.

>>52473243
If I see one more fucking tower of hanoi puzzle in a video game I'm getting out my pen and writing some good old fashion hate-mail.

>>52473484
Yeah but when you're playing an action game and you want to fight some awesome boss or new cannon fodder but no. You have to sit down and waste 10 minutes of your time on something you can do without.

>>52465013
Reminds me of my first time roleplaying i had to be told to not be as talkative/active since one guy, who was playing a rather silent rogue, was bothered about it. In the end it was me and another guy doing most of the talk and i was really fucking pissed since the rogue guy didnt improve despite me being less in the spotlight
And since that time the fuckers didnt learn and everytime they play a shy or antisocial char it is a PAIN in the dick
>baaww i have nothing to or say in social situations

>>52475579
imo there's nothing wrong with being untalkative as long as you let more talkative characters do their thing

>>52464892

The while point was to make magic exceedingly rare, and to make parties almost entirely martial.

>>52464922

Yes to the first part, and most of us were martial classes or some form of civilian. We had a bard who was obviously a pro magician.

>>52466333

You would be a fighter. A ranger would be like a fish and wildlife ranger or federal law enforcement for department of the interior or some such. Barbarian had more to do with being like a criminal thug or someone who was illiterate from a third world country with combat experience. Metal worker by trade would give you metalworking skills.

>>52466432

No.

>>52466524

You would play as a civilian, we had a couple types.

>>52466838

We had a table using strength standards to judge strength.

>>52468795

Depends what those degrees are in. I've got history, so I just got a bunch of ranks in knowledge history. As for wealth, yes?

>>52472378

Lol, it was a group effort. It would have been hilarious if we were like, "welp, we're not actually literal cartographers so we can't have a setting"

>>52472442

Actually yes

>>52472500

Knowledge (whatever language) ranks, and perform ranks.

>>52473270

We've been playing since 2000 and it's been the best campaign I've played since my early college days.

>>52471271
And tons of people with high IQs are shit at everything else hey guys!

>>52471698
It's also easier because seeing the first letters of the weekdays in sequence is kind of common.

>>52472269

You know, I didn't realize it when I made the character, but pretty much.

>>52471142
That last one isn't entirely accurate. Emotions get in the way of logic and whatnot. Favoring a family member doesn't have anything to do with intelligence, but with familial relation.

>>52469007
>playing wizards is the only way to have fun
Get a load of this gu y

>>52476362
What's a philosophy degree get me? probably nothing, just like irl

>>52477941
Drunkard class

>>52477941

We'd probably give you knowledge (whatever philosophy)

>>52465110
>drinking to be a drunk character
Have you tried actually roleplaying

>>52477812
You'll notice that was kind of the point of the statement. "incidentally favoring intelligent people"
maybe inadvertently is a better word

>>52471521
Underrated post

>>52478077
It's called method acting, dude.

>>52464950
This. It happened to me more than once.

>>52469342
The DEX test sounds like it would be for STR though.

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>>52478351
>I'm dying because I do X, I do X to do Z
>Do Y to do Z instead?
>But X to do Z is a thing you can do.

>>52478636
I was told there would be no math.

>>52476362
>Barbarian had more to do with being like a criminal thug or someone who was illiterate from a third world country with combat experience.
That's pretty fucked up

>>52476362

>Knowledge (Whatever language) and perform ranks.

so a bard?

>>52473546

Is that experanto? I can actually sorta tell bits and pieces from it. And same anon, I love languages (Taught myself English by watching cartoons and playing vidya) and wanna keep learning more. As for singing, it's a good way of making money or drawing attention to yourself if need be.

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>>52463389
>comparing the use of logic, investigation and reasoning that is common to our species and thus replicable to a supernatural ability that has no official proof of existing in our world and whose rules depend on setting
>inb4 but muh meme magic
you are an idiot.

>>52477961
Just like real life!

>>52478078
But that's if all of their family is intelligent. There are 160 IQ people with low IQ siblings or cousins who they favor.

>>52466432
Bard, most probably

>>52477941
Arcana cleric

>>52468824
Unlike physical stats, higher mental stats are harder to play properly

>>52473139
>>52473176
HOW DOES IT WORK

>>52463116
Highly intelligent people also say stupid shit all the time.

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>>52479521

>>52479521
Start at M and move to the letter in the cypher. Mirror the action and you'll get the decoded message. For example, RUHUGA. To get to R you go Down one, so if you instead go Up one you get H. U is Down two, Left two, so by going Up two, Right two we get E. Keep doing this.

There's an interesting character in the game I'm running right now who is intelligent, but ducks most deeper discussions, and prefers brute force solutions most of the time because they work and they're fast.

It's like having someone you know could have been a doctor or lawyer but chose to be a carpenter because he prefers physical work and not dealing with people's lives. He's treated like the party dunce, and usually is in practice, until he chooses not to be from time to time.

I'm not sure if this makes him a genius or an idiot in the end.

>>52479585
Thank you, brother.

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>>52472781
Using a Hex grid you can get all 26 letters in and not need a middle letter that stays the same. Example here.

>>52479594
If it makes you feel better I'm not sure myself and that's basically my life story, just replace carpenter with working at a greenhouse because it's in line with my hobbies, leaves my mind free to think about whatever it wants while working and makes just enough to be comfortable and have savings for when I'm old/sick/injured.

>>52479528

This, being intelligent just means you learn, process, adapt, and create faster, not that you are immune to reaching stupid conclusions or having stupid ideas/thoughts.

Thats just a human trait that requires work to mitigate and control

>>52463575
What do I guess with an engineering degree in materials sciences and a master in nanocale engineering ?

>>52479799
What do I get*

>>52479799
Run of the mill conjuror?

>PC on table with highest STR
>keeps failing easy tasks because the player is weak

>>52469342
I'd do the pushups test, pass because that's literally middle school-tier fitness testing, then tell you that I don't want to play your game.

>>52479808
I'm all in. Can I pass the others test to get higher stats as well ?

>>52479151

please respond I need to know how my abilities would translate to fantasy. In addition to speaking multiple languages and understanding a fair bit about translation and linguistics/the whole singing schtick, I have a little bit of knowledge on many diffferent things, I lift weights and I'm a small Alberto Barbosa. Would I be a halfling?

Oh I also once held a world record for being in the biggest samba band ever and I come from a family of ex-criminals

>>52463116
Int 8 dwarf permanently sacrificed 2 int doing a ritual of drinking to unlock the dwarven science feat which lets him add two times his negative intmod to an int check while drunk. But has a 50% chance of not working anyway

>>52463405
It's easy. Just plant little, subtle ciues that bad things happen in the character's lives because it's all according to the kekaku of the bad guy. The nice thing is this works in retrospect too.

>>52463148
This is literally my problem. I am not really an RPGer, but my buddy wanted me to join his DH campaign. I picked an Ogryn because I made a sweet model for it. The problem is I know all sorts of 40k knowledge and the rest of the party has zero except for one dude. They also lack a real leader and so are frequently directionless and make poor decisions.

The Ogryn was the right choice because frequently I think I would ruin my buddies GMing by thwarting his ideas. It is some times infuriating because my party makes bad choices. However, I don't want to ruin the game for everyone else. I decided the solution is to only chime in when I make a roll under a 16 on a D100 (Ogryn has a 16 INT). Otherwise, I default to looking for snacks and smashing things the Inquisitor tells me to.

>>52479976

A bard would be someone who earns money from their performing as their primary income. We had to separate it from people who just passively played instruments or did it on the side, and decided if could sway people enough that they paid you to do it full time then you had sufficient reason to actually be that as a class and not just some guy who knows how to play an instrument part time.

>>52479799

Engineering skill and you could probably convince us you deserved to be able to go to level 6 as a conjurer.

>>52468459
>>52468704
>>52471030
>>52473854
This is why poorfags shouldn't be allowed to post.

>>52463116

>this is me perfectly

I did highlight the fact I'm one of the dumber ones in the group to my DM, that I much prefer taking the "fuck it, let's see what happens" route rather than actual planning, but...ah, fuck it

>>52471088
>Know the answer
THANKS PORN

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>>52463575
>tfw minister who has married people
>tfw 5 years as a infantry soldier

Holy shit can I go paladin?!

>>52484414
>minister who has married people posting on 4chan with an anime girl pic

>>52484542
He finally saw the light

>>52463116
>PC on table with highest Speak Common
>keeps speaking English because player only knows English

>>52480643

I'm a student atm and all the money I get part time is through gigs. Also, isn't that unfair if you have a degree in physics but aren't a physicist but get to play the equivalent anyways? What if

>>52480643
>>52484739

oops fucked up my post

what if you're as strong as a powerlifter, but don't compete in powerlifting competitions? Are you barred from playing a barbarian class?

>>52479819
But he can properly roleplay being strong, can he? Can the other guy properly roleplay a smart dude?

>>52463575
What do I get for being a vegetable/poultry farmer that doesn't use modern equipment? I've got a small farm and there's no use to use a tiller for 200 feet of garden when I can do it by hand. Got to keep /fit/ mate

>>52484542
I will bring moe to the drow anon-kun
I will guide them away from leather and chains to sailor uniforms and paper fans.
The only thing that won't change is the casual female on male abuse kek

>>52473451
>IQ of 163
>27 and still a worthless highschool dropout NEET

then how are you stupid enough to drop out of school?

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>>52486803
>trusting and contributing to the system

>>52486898
>not understanding the system is the only thing that will move you past mediocrity unless you posses an amazing talent.

>>52486898
I hate the way the school system's set up- it's cost me tons of grief over the years - but if defying the system doesn't accomplish anything, it's just as senseless.

>>52487242
If both things are senseless, it's only logic to do what causes you less grief. You don't really hate the school system that much.