Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1417: Icy Titanic Love Edition

The world shall fall to my Icy goodness.

>>52462691
how will you do it anon?

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Tell me /JC/ do you keep your parents in each Jump? Or do you choose different parents? How many have companioned their parents, siblings...etc?

>>52462704
I will show up near the titanic and announce my great presence by shooting fire from my Iceberg mouth and saying in the best Heavy impression "Im coming for you."

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>No Mario Bros. jump

>>52462726
Prefer different parents, I like my milfs with variety

feels good to cuck your own dad, provided they are bad

What are some good charisma perks that can make me ruler of the world?

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>>52462192
Well, keeping in mind that they're white trash hicks who can casually throw a truck and tend to bully people and do whatever the fuck they want to do...
Keep in mind that even if you're the type of charismatic and/or stronk jumper who could wrangle them into order, they're likely to fall back into their old habits the second your back is turned.
So it's really just whether or not you find their shenanigans amusing.

They'd probably make a pretty good quirky miniboss squad!

>>52462726
Keep? Choose? My parents in each jump are prettymuch dependent on background, a couple perks, and circumstance.
I don't choose anything, it's basically random.

I have never companion'd anyone related to me. Although in the EMBROIDERY jump, a couple of my companions became related to me via import.

>>52460350
> Titanic: The Legend Lives On
> “It’s Been 84 Years...”

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...............

Okay.

I... NEED... someone to explain to me why this is a bad idea.

>>52462726
>Tell me /JC/ do you keep your parents in each Jump?

nope, being the jumper is pretty much like being the Buddha only you are not stuck in one universe.

>Or do you choose different parents?

you can't really choose family, but I've been parts of houses that exist in settings on occasions.

>How many have companioned their parents, siblings...etc?

No,never done that.

>>52462758
But, we do?

Also, a Paper Mario jump?

>>52462844
It's not? I mean, shit, a Jumper could do a lot of good during that time period. It's just like Force of the Times from MGS.

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>>52462925
> a Jumper could do a lot of good during that time period
Oh, certainly! In the real world, and even in the live action movie world, a jumper could do all kinds of fun things, like, you know, stop the sinking of the titanic, help out, enjoy the 1970s, all kinds of stuff.

But taking "The Legend Lives On" places you in the first animated musical adaptation.
Which is actually called "The Legend Goes On", not lives, but semantics.

Said musical includes such things as:
> Seven different plots
> Abrupt scene transitions
> Disjointed dialog
> Poor script reading
> Mexican mice
> Two evil step mothers
> Slapstick
> A "where are they now" epilogue where everyone lives
> A rapping dog

This is real footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxHNztg0X3s

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And I'm thinking about going there for 84 years.

And I need someone to talk me out of it.

>>52462844
>I... NEED... someone to explain to me why this is a bad idea.

>looks at jump
Hmm. 84 years on a mundane Earth could be darn pretty boring for some Jumpers?

>>52463059
>>52463048
Oh.

...

Um. Because NOBODY has that many sanity perks?

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So Jumpers, which companions, after you did some reading on them have made you realize that you may have made a terrible mistake and unleashed a monster on the multiverse?

As in, everytime you go through the companion options and start picking out options for them, you get a sinking feeling that no matter what, they'll still be fucking terrifying if not more so?

Mine was Tomoe Mami, an onee-san type magical girl from Magica Madoka.

She's terrifying yo.

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>>52463152
Not a mistake, but the more I think about Jibril from NGNL, the more I start realizing exactly how her personality would develop with me as her master, instantly seizing upon new impressions and opportunities of the multiverse and throwing herself into them, in her entirety.

'Tis glorious.

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>>52463152
Can you explain? She seemed to be an emotionally scarred young woman.

>>52463329
The Oedipul mother
Look it up

>>52463334
>>52463329

Actually, googling it is kinda hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPAfS8-wm8g

>>52463353
Psychoanalysis is rejected by the majority of modern psychologists, Freud.

>>52463435
It's an archetype, and Mami is a fictional character...

Anon, come on buddy.

Hollow Knight Jump when? Not it!

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>>52462844
Well, that's mainly because of PARTY TIME

Also this is a setting where rich snobs can hire shark gangster hitmen

Oh, and giant octopi exist but can't breathe under water

Wait, why this IS a bad idea?

>>52463048
People won't stop telling you that you can't go through this way, lest you force them to resort to violence. It will either get really, really annoying, or you'll be forced to fight.

In general the whole thing will be less entertaining than watching it because nobody can carry a conversation without starting to repeat themselves, and then descending into incoprehensible gibberish slang.

Also, it takes roughly 20 seconds for the male lead to fall in love after making eye contact. Boy has attachment issues.

>>52462726
I'm not exactly a bad child, but with a few exceptions my sheer amount of stealth gives most of them sudden bouts of amnesia.

There's just this vague awareness of homework being done and the lawn being mowed. And so far, I've only companioned the same sister twice.

>>52463152
Actually, I'm fully aware of what monsters I'm bringing along. At this point being associated with an apocalypse has become the community rite of passage.

Every jump I can't get them to work constructively on something runs the risk of a cosmic catfight, like the time Jadis talked shit about Bayonetta's hair. There's chunks of Arizona that are uninhabitable to this day.

The real surprise horror comes from the ones that team up. Like Adorjan, Delight and the Alice-gestalt's sisterly rivalry. Don't get me wrong-they love each other very much because they understand each other-but they generally share that love to others through the medium of stab wounds and psychotic breakdowns.

I still have no idea WHAT they did to that poor demon lord, but my crew was picking bits of him out of the Warehouse faculties for months.

>>52463450
You know what the fun thing about archetype is? They're just stereotypes, and assumptions. Not everyone agrees with the definition of every archetype, especially when you get into weird obscure ones based on a psychoanalysist's view of the female mind. Nor even does technically belonging to an archetype require a character to fit whatever weird ass sexual expectations people have of it, instead of being their own individual.

>>52463477
That's fine but, Mami has aspects of the Oedipal mother so.

And Freud isn't obscure, and neither is Jordan Peterson.

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>>52463152
Zero from Drakengard 3 is the closest to someone who fits the bill, but I knew it was coming.

You save some one who doesn't think twice about murdering people from certain death and they kinda don't know what to do with themselves.

>>52463504
Anyone in the modern age who honestly takes Freud seriously as someone relevant today should be shot. It's kinder then letting them live with that sort of mental disability.

>>52463504
Which part of 'not everyone agrees with the definition of every archetype' don't you get?

And Freud isn't obscure, but he's completely discredited.

>>52463526
Why are you waifuing a bird-fucking whore?

>>52463533
>>52463541

He's not completely discredited. His good ideas have all been assimilated and the only ones left are the bad ones.

>>52463553
Look anon. Freud is respected as the founder of modern psychology. That doesn't mean his actual theories are worth a damn thing. It was his disciples and friends who started getting close to the truth, rather than just projecting their fetishes.

And any archetype based on Freud's sexual and female psychology theories is instantly an unbelievable and broken mess.

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>>52463546
Because I played the game with the Japanese VA and she was bae.

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Ok guys I will probably be changing things up if anything needs to be changed, and when new books come out I will be updating (if we get more info on more classes I will probably add new backgrounds)

So here we go world seed wip, mainly done for the time being, version 1. In a meeting at work here but will answer questions asap.

Thoughts?

>>52463572
>Japanese VA
>Missing out on all the cussing and bitching and only getting the mostly emotionless performance instead
Poor anon.

>>52463572
Then waifu the VA.

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>>52463476
> Also this is a setting where rich snobs can hire shark gangster hitmen
> Oh, and giant octopi exist but can't breathe under water
Nono, you're thinking of the OTHER animated Titanic movie. Called "The Legend of the Titanic". See, there were actually two seperate animated adaptions, and the second one was the one with gangster sharks. That was the one where the boat was pulled back together by an Octopus who had Mickey Mouse's face, and so everyone was saved. But in the "The Legend Goes On", the boat did actually sink, and it's just everyone got out okay.
Also, "The Legend of the Titanic" had a sequel, wherein the two main leads of the original get kidnapped to Atlantis, where the ruler plans to keep them there forever in holy matrimony to each other because thdsrkslaADSFDOR@#MYHANDS ARE TRYINGTO STRANGLE ME
CHOK ING ON VOMIT MY BODY REJECTI NG ME
HALPP

>>52462726
I have parents and siblings as determined by my background. During the Fire Embleming I had at least 4 sets of parents with at least 9 children each. Code Lyoko got me a little sister so that the bad guy had something to use against me. Parents were in Geneva, though.

>>52463568

We're not talking about the real world anon
We're talking about a character written by Gen Urobuchi, a man who is overly fixated on Nietzsche, who's works Freud was responding too, directly or indirectly.

>>52463610
You are really stretching to justify this huh?

>>52463610
An archetype with no foundation in the real world is nothing more than a theory, and can be freely rejected as goddamn retarded. Like you are.

Seriously, the only fetishes Urobuchi has are misery, rape, and NTR. He's not writing about your incest mommy fetish.

>>52462726
You want me to explain my family tree?

I'm going to need at least fifty-five PowerPoints, and also at some point I'm going to need to explain the concepts behind one particular branch of genealogy to explain why one of my parents is a literal tree.

I bought the Family Tree item in the Paradox Grand Strategy arc. And even to this day not even The Cat can make heads-or-tails of it.

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>>52463676
>also at some point I'm going to need to explain the concepts behind one particular branch of genealogy to explain why one of my parents is a literal tree.
Didn't someone only just now ask for Hollow Knight Jump? How are you a Vessel already?

>>52463587
The technological upgrade capstone feels artificial with the percentile quantifier, but they're not exactly dealbreakers. I'd prefer it to be limited as a softcap with a worded example, but that's just personal preference

>Grove

...alright, can you explain how there's perk parity between creating a miniature solar system in your own soul and the other capstones?

Also what's this virtual/artificial reality distinction? Just to be clear, all that moon monster nonsense is just a REALLY realistic simulation not an actual thing right?

>>52463707
*creating a solar system

>>52463706
Long, convoluted story and whatever you do, DO NOT LOOK BENEATH THE MASK.

>>52463059
That's more of a nightmare scenerio for the mundane earth than the jumper.

>>52463587
>when new books come out

So this jump is based on a LN? Sort of a future Earth with an emphasis on VR tech and then magic comes back resulting in a partial apocalypse and wacky space adventures, like some sort of crazy SwordArtOnline-meets-ShadowRun-meets-CowboyBebop?

>>52463676
>Tree parent

What?!

>>52463707
No the moon literally became a monster called the lunar titan. It stood up and flew away. Current whereabouts unknown. Grove can get up to solar system inside you but that takes a lot of work and requires you to micromanage and add the correct types of mana in the correct amounts. While this sounds good, and it is, this means that you have to suck up a literal planets worth of material to get a planet in your grove. You dont get somethong from nothing and even getting something the size of a normal planetoid of even the size of our moon is going to take a very long time and a lot of elemental cultivation. Basically its gonna look like a solar system but be nowhere near as big.

>>52463334

Wouldn't Mami's usually murderous and/or suicidal reaction to the truth of the puella magi witch system probably be a better reason to find her terrifying?

>>52463735
Turns out the artificial reality vr game was the future and the seeds used to play the game are the cause of it

>>52463707
But fair enough on the upgrade perk I can make it have a soft cap instead, thats doable and makes sense enough to justify.

>>52463597
Don't forgot about the Scottish artillery man soldier that was "cursed" to be dressed up like a little girl and wear a wig in the sequel one.

That was a very important par-ohgod I feel my liver attacking me for remembering it even for a joke.

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>>52463627
>He's not writing about your incest mommy fetish.

That's not what the Oedipal mother is though, I mean it is in it's extreme. It's female totalitarianism, over protectiveness, and an over dependence on the emotional gratification of your children or people that are infantilised in the mind of the subject.

And it does have foundation in the real world, hell in the video I linked there was that depiction of Mary stepping on the snake and holding baby Jesus off to the side which predates Freud by centuries. It's a recurring archetype throughout history. Mother's are required to be protective of their children, they have biological drives to do so, and it becomes hazardous to a child's emotional development, and if you think I'm wrong about that then I would be interested in hearing what you attribute an entire generation demanding safe spaces in university.

Mami infantilising Madoka is probably a little too strong of a statement for their relationship, but she is protective of her, she does definitely see her as naive and she does definitely see Homura as a threat, which is why she binds her, which ultimately leads to her death.

>>52463811
Possibly, we're just talking here.

>>52463780
>Moon left.
Wow, how's the weather dealing with that?

>Huge Inner Soul needs stuff.
Understood on my end, though I'm not that guy. With this a few other abilities my Inner World is gonna be swollen as fuck when I go to DC and get it turned into an awesome World of Jumper.

>>52463811
Her going straight for the kill was kinda nuts.

>>52463812
Huh. This sounds like VR Xianxia... is it one?

>>52463839
Soft cap a planatary or something maybe, again not that guy just commenting.

>>52463780
>the moon literally became a monster

How? According to the intro I just thought virtual reality was really, really high tech and all the magic's a simulation in it or something.

I just think its' potential of scope just far outstrips the other perk. A solar system is much, MUCH bigger than creating some kind of moon monster

>>52463812
I don't understand, what's going on and why is the future full of moon monsters

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>>52463853
That sure is a lot of projection. It's like you can't handle the concept of positive personality traits and think that they thus have to be an insane manipulator using you for their own gratification. You like psychoanalysts quite a bit, so I'll go ahead and ape them and say this is indicative of you suffering severe childhood trauma related to your mother or another female caregiver.

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>>52463853
>too bad, it was a bespectacled mami-chan.
I'm not disappointed in the least.

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>>52463591
>only getting the mostly emotionless performance instead
It was nuanced and much more subdued but I wouldn't call it emotionless. I mean English Dod3 Zero was just Kaine with out the dick, which is a down grade IMO.

Then again I'm the kind of person that likes mass production dead fish so...

>>52463884
Not at all, I had the tyrannical father.

>>52463869
>Wow, how's the weather dealing with that?
From what I can gather from reading the jump, the Earth's basically fucked and Space Elves (TM) show up to evacuate (some/most of?) the population.

>>52463869
>Wow, how's the weather dealing with that?

Not well. But then again people are having a harder time with dragons destroying europe.

>Understood on my end, though I'm not that guy. With this a few other abilities my Inner World is gonna be swollen as fuck when I go to DC and get it turned into an awesome World of Jumper.

It also requires you to add every element manually, want air? You gotta cultivate air. Want water, same thing, nothing comes free and its time consuming.

Its kinda a xia, it has xia elements but its more a mmo turned real thing.

Soft cap to planetary I could probably do they make lots of mini king kai sized planetoids of elements around a ball of plasma mana acting as a sun in setting. They act like planets in that they revolve around the biggest mass.

>>52463877
Then I need to make the intro more clear. The future is full of monsters, moon sized ones exist in space. Magic changed how reality worked fundamentally. Statues became golems, things became real that used to be myths, the things closest to earth became monsters first and the moon is close, in the future earth is a planet sized dungeon with max level monsters thanks to absorbing all that mana.

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Who here Anti-Monitor?

so how much different are you in your first jump and latest jump?

for jumpers who have done multiple hundreds or higher of jumps how do new settings interact with you?

how big are your hands?

>>52463936
Not exactly, earth (with some blueprints for ships from the neolife game) builds some ark ships then basically gtfo to the closest habitable worlds (also located thanks to the game) which happen to be the halfling worlds and the elf worlds.

>>52463972
If I can store shit in my soul is it okay to do that instead of cultivating stuff?

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>>52462726
I generally don't have parents, or families for that matter, in any of the universes I Jump to. Which struck me as odd at first. Not that I really minded. Not having a family to dance around when it came to my adventures and superscience makes things easier.

Of course, that changes if I take certain drawbacks or powers that make it obvious I'm related to somebody. Like Raven's powerset in Teen Titans. But generally it's just me with vague memories of my upbringing and relevant data for the world I'm getting dropped into.

Technically I was apparently also Andrew Ryan's son in Bioshock... but that was a weird Jump.

>>52463152
I don't regret bringing her along one bit, but Rip Van Winkle (from Hellsing) is about 2/3 Monster and usually tries to find new ways to add more in. She went half-Greeed in Kamen Rider OOOs and the only thing that stopped her from going full bore down that path was that I specifically picked Core Medals for her that belonged to a Greeed that didn't actually exist.

And then there's some of the Advanced Abilities our Falna has granted her. They... /encourage/ her to devour people. Which, I guess is handy in the war-torn times I find myself in now, but is still rather disturbing to see in action.

>>52464088
Like how do you mean? The mc can store stuff in their grove but it has to have somewhete to put it, which means you have to at least cultivate enough earth to sit it on, also you can usually only put something around max the size of a car or so, though if you build something bigger inside you can take it out even if its huge.

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Do you feel cheap when using high end magic on non-magical settings or settings where magic is rarely used and not very potent?

>>52464138
not really, because I only use them on holidays

>>52464138
No, I like being OP.

>>52463972
Wait, so there was magic in the world all along and the VR craze has nothing to do with anything?

>>52463979
Normal matter won the war in our universe, why would I associate myself with the first loser? In my powerfantasy where I'm a powerful entity and not a shit neet.

First jump my jumper was just me, latest jump my jumper is a hive queen with a psychic connection to all her children with magic powers. I still like to think she does good, but with the power and technology accrued any direct intervention or uplifting in the societies in the various jumps is starting to be incredibly destructive.

And like I said, they tend to interact with my jumper badly. Scripture is disproven, people are afraid, all manner of bad things happen. She tends to hide for the duration of the jump these days, interacting with the societies covertly.

>>52464186
No, the vr game shipped with vr pods called seeds. The seeds (without anyones knowledge) began pumping out mana when activated. This changed things, the game is actually sending the players avatar into the future roughly 3k years, the seeds are causing reality to change by making magic which leads to the future being the magic scifi setting it is.

The seeds are mcguffins that seed the universe with magic.

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>>52464138
At this point I am physically incapable of seeing the point of a fair fight outside the bounds of manipulating fairness to achieve an end, although I understand the concept in abstract.

And I find it absurd.

>>52463979
>Who here Anti-Monitor

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I was Anti-SPIRAL many milennia ago and I did acquire the Anti-Monitor's technology to build antimatter lanturn rings, does that count?

>so how much different

I am now brighter and hotter than the event that created my original self's universe.

>hundreds of higher jumps

Uh. I...kinda wedge up agsint them, awkwardly? So there's the jump right, and there's the multiverse I naturally exude that sort of nudges into it, cushioning my insertion into the fringes of a given reality. So, kinda cramped is how I'd put it.

>how big are your hands

Er, depending on how far we stretch the definition of "hands" anywhere between the span of a universe and the width of a molecular bond.

>>52464244
Huh. So the seeds just kind of...showed up? Nobody made them?

>>52464136
Oh I thought we had to cultivate space first and had no way to get things in and out is all.

>>52464290
Seeds showed up first as part of early access game, then after a bit literally everyone got one from nowhere just showing up in their house.

>>52464326
You need to cultivate the groves ground first, space (vacuum) can add more area but then stuff will just kinda float there in a vacuum. You can pull stuff in but it also takes mp to do.

I see I will need to add more notes.

>>52464386
What do seeds actually look like? I was under the impression they look like a Kinect but with less spiders living inside

>>52464405
Its like a lay down bed vr capsule. It is described as looking a lot like coffin.

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>>52463842
Careful, anon! You need that to drink!

>>52464138
In such settings, I prefer to use magic in such a way that it is not obvious I'm using magic.
Actually, I usually prefer to downplay my true powers even in high magic settings. Saves headaches.

But generally, no matter how I do it, I tend to crush real opposition pretty handily. I don't feel bad about it.
Fair fights are just a thing people use to make them feel good about losing.

And that's fine. It can be fun to lose! But that's all it is. For fun. A game.
If you're actually trying to win, there's no point in fighting fair. That defeats the point of trying.

>>52463979
> Who here Anti-Monitor?
I'm too much of a filthy casual to understand what that is.

> so how much different are you in your first jump and latest jump?
Well, in my first jump I was cheerful despite a couple traumas, and tended to expos the value of friendship. So I actually fit into Pokemon pretty well, except for the whole "not really into battling" part.

Nowadays I'm a mad researcher monstercat who messes with people and wallows in darkness.

> for jumpers who have done multiple hundreds or higher of jumps how do new settings interact with you?
Depends on my background. I still tend to do the stealth jumper thing, although various perks and things have made independent life really easy.
So, y'know, if I want to be a world traveller or something, that's pretty easy.

> how big are your hands?
Depends on how fluffy they are at the time.

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>>52464477
>what that is

Don't worry, he's basically DC's final boss who they whip out whenever they need to justify Darkseid siding with the Justice League for some reason. And even they can't decide who he is all the time.

General consensus is that he's the ruler of an antimatter universe and is super salty at existence because reasons.

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>>52463706
>>52463454
What would the origins be? (Drop-in, Vessal, Radiant, and Abyssal)
What would the Perks be like? (Drop-In makes charms weapons and such from preexisting powers and abilities, Vessal is about using Soul Based stuff and being a sealing tool, Radiant is all the hivemind, and Abyssal is about being one with the void and that)
What would the Items be like? (Geo, various nicknacks, maps, map pins, a few charms maybe, etc.)
What would the Drawbacks be like? (Riddance has taken over everything but what was seen in the game, Starting with a bit of Radiance to begin, Warriors Ghosts that hold powers stolen from you, Powers stripped, The King is Dead Long Live the King, Hollow Knight get's bad end within the ten years you'll have to deal with whats in the Black Egg)
Here to me wishing that there were a Jumpmaker willing to take up this great world and give it a Jump.

>>52463253
>So many old jumps without a companion option

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>>52464908
>Radiant

Isn't there only one of that thing and it's some kind of eldritch deity? Other than that I can only think of the disease

Also the heck's an Abyssal, I thought the Vessels were the ones that contain the Abyss' power?

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>>52463587
Ok lets try this again.

Changes:
•added some notes on the setting, only a few though
•made upgrade perk for tech line a soft cap
•added detail to grove perk to specify how it works in setting better.
•Changed intro a bit.

Thoughts?

>>52464242
how do you display your powers mighty jumper?

>>52464290
how did you become the anti-spiral?

>I am now brighter and hotter than the event that created my original self's universe.

righteous

>>52465227
He did some bullshit powerwanking where he sacrificed himself in a ritual to himself to become all powerful.

>>52464477
>Depends on how fluffy they are at the time.

how about maximum floof?

>>52465260
which ritual?

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>>52465227
>how do you display your powers mighty jumper?
With shock and awe

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>>52462726
It seems like I'm fated have shitty relations with my relatives/family no matter what. just like real life, so I'm used to it.

If they're canon characters I usually don't have shitty relations with them if they're not the kind of person to be an asshole.

>>52463152
me with grail-kun when I gave him stuff in Slime Rancher. I realized I made a very, very bad superweapon on my hands.

>>52465221
Has the world gone to seed?

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>>52465191
The Moth's once had control of what the Radiance was, and by using it they learned some serious shit about Dream and Soul. Yes, there is only one The Radiant it's sort of a an Eldritch Hivemind thing that has evolved the infection stuff in response to The Hollow Knight and Black Egg sealing it way so it can't use it's Eldritch Hivemind super powers like it used to.

The black things from down in the Abyss are Abyssals, which are beings of Void. The Abyssals are kind oddballs because they can come back from nearly anything. Vessals like Hollow Knight and Hornet were formed from arts that the White King developed from understanding some stuff about the Wyrm, and maybe because he might have been the Wyrm but no one can conclusively say on that point. The reason Hollow Knight and Hornet are so awesome is because, unlike regular Abyssals, they have the ability to manipulate Soul as well as be murder ghost bugs.

>>52465332
>which ritual?
I've been around for quite some time and I remember some of those posts. The answer to your question is... many. He used Darkhollow from Dresdien Files that I know of, lots of things like Correspondence stuff from Fallen London, some Norse Myth stuff from Viking Saga, and there was a long stint where he was ASA where fucking worlds burned to keep him going. After all that he basically created a vast ritual in Exalted that wound up with him being almost as Perfect as UC and his apotheosis is based on the Exalted Big Bang Yozi whose name I always fuck up. So... yeah alot of stuff happened to make him that way.

>>52465490
Didn't the Exalted thing fail because Mardukth said he couldn't make Essence 6+ custom charms? Or did he just give up and let ASA do whatever he wanted?

>>52465484
Hah, you could say that what with humanity fleeing to other worlds, there is a myth in the neolife game that every race created ftl at toughly the exact same time. Turns out that is both true and not true, when humans became the races of their avatars and then fled earth in starships (being the first ftl race) the people who were now the race of their avatars basically sought out others like them. Which means elf players became elves and skeletons found skeletons and lamias went to find lamias. So while earth (humans) really became the first race to make ftl travel (using tech and magic from the future) all races really did create space travel more or less simultaneously because members of their races (who used to be human) came from earth and taught them tech and magic to be able to become ftl races and in doing so spread temples to the new gods so people could use magic and level up.

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>>52465227
Well, through bitterness mostly. Y'see, I ventured into Ravenloft around jump #16 and it soured my view on life. The guilt. The constant need to look over your shoulder. The paranoia at the idea the multiverse was populated by THINGS that could just drop out of the aether and ruin your life.

For a while I was content to stew in my misanthropy. At first I was content to perform terrible sacrifices for the sake of personal security-but 90 jumps or so later, getting my hands on the Dark Soul of Man and Gwyn's Lord Soul...changed me. I had an ephiphany: A world where nothing had to change, protected by its' own timelessness.

Decades went by. I met and fought incarnations of the Crawling Chaos-one of the most terrible dark powers from Ravenloft-again and again, saw the scope of the multiverse and started to feel insecure at the sheer inconsistency; the idea wouldn't let go of me. I didn't immediately go mad with power; I started to look like a glowing shadow well before I acted like one. Everything changed when I jumped Dune in another 90 decades.

I rolled A God I Am.

I snapped; it became obvious to me it was better to either render worlds desolate enough to escape notice from higher beings, dominate them or remake their civilisations as hiveminds to stand a chance.

...at the end of the day, evil is depressingly banal. I felt guilty I couldn't do everything I could do protect the people that mattered, and I felt horrified at the idea everything was truly meaningless. I wanted to preserve it at all costs. Eventually I paid the price for my hubris, tried to let go and move on with my life and backslid out of cynicism.

It wasn't until my wife left me, I lost my sense of identity turning into a Nobody, barely managed to save an alternate universe version of my wife and finally was emotionally blackmailed by my subconsciousness into becoming something else.

Basically, I became the Anti-Spiral the way other people developed drinking problems.

>>52465508
Nope, it seriously gimped the build from my understanding but Garlock is still as close to a Primordial as a being can get. Personally I'd just make all my Charms Essence 1-5 and have a paywall so I'd have to rebuy them to improve them past the E6+ barrier, just like all the Yozi charms are actually set up but that is just me.

Then again I still don't know why the Ebon Dragon hasn't used Brighter Light, Deeper Shadows (Custom Charm-Steal which only works on US because of their symbolic relationship) to become infinitely awesome by mirroring all of US's entire Charm Tree. That should be easy for Ebby but he never does it.

>>52465558
>Humanity creating its own horrible rivals

>>52465563
You've become the Antispiral like, three times now. Each time from retconning an attempted character development.

>>52465602
Because he is self defeating, he has to also fight him self so he doesnt become to powerful. He basically does all he can to sabotage everyone including himself.

>>52465623
Some human supremecist groups popped up in the ships headed to the elf worlds (3 worlds located in the same system) and they tried to take over and start the empire of man, the elves responded by using an orbital cannon on one of the small ships and creating a toxin that would kill any human who enterred their atmosphere. They didnt release the toxin but the threat was there.

>>52465666
So you're telling me it's my duty in this setting to genocide the elves for the sake of humanity?

>>52465709
I mean you can, due to the actions of the mc the humans and elves come to a mutual system of working together forming a sott of alliance, humans know a lot more about magic than the elves and the humans who went to other worlds may well have taken over, Just my thoughts on that part though since another ark ship went to halfling planet and nobody had been there to warn THEM.

Humans do just fine in the long run though. Even if you dont help them.

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>>52465332
I think he means this one (https://pastebin.com/duAnfz3X), which was how I became a universe. Er-a proper universe, rather than the weird artificial divine spirit thing I did way back in Fate.

>>52465260
I've been accused of this before, and have explained/posted the procedure several times. Explain which parts are powerwanking.

>>52465508
>>52465602
About (https://pastebin.com/vu8iWdwQ), yeah. Mardukth basically said I acquired unusually buff Cosmic Principle-related Charms, which would logically also include a Greater Imperfection-but the E6 cap was in place.

But later in Sidereals I created a new kind of Exaltation (https://pastebin.com/AvxUyh2C) with all the knowledge I could glean from Primordials and study of my own Infernal Exaltation, and developed Charms to integrate them as a jouten. Then I used Favor of Tashlan to integrate their spiritual processes with my own Charms.

So-it was a very roundabout journey, but yeah.

>>52465630
Eh, I'd call it two and a half times. The third time, I just accepted the mistakes I made in the past rather than try to drown them in EVOLUTION and HOT BLOOD. Def Jam was more of a self discovery thing and taming a tulpa than another 180.

I've been Garlock since SNES, and have no plans to become Anti in the future because that obviously didn't work out well for me.

>>52465759
'just fine' isn't acceptable, anon. Being a minor race is an affront.

>>52465782
It's likely just bait. The next thing he'll go for is that your too wordy and thus no one can tell if your stuff is legit because tl;dr.

>>52465792
It is more like a race that shows up everywhere, but ok if thats how you feel.

>>52465886
>It is more like a race that shows up everywhere
So do the Vorcha in Mass Effecct, anon.

Aren't you offended by the idea of humans being a weak, lesser species?

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is there any way to remove powers that we give to other people?

Specifically ones from perks like Blue Queen from Double Cross & those two from Sailor Moon & the new Madoka jump?

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>>52465623
terminator

>>52465602
Oh and-it's never EXPLICITLY said why he couldn't do this, but it's heavily implied he's simply too weak to. Black Mirror Shintai actually has a clause where Essence levels aside, if the Storyteller deems that someone is significantly more powerful than you because of other reasons it doesn't work on them either. The Dragon also got the Primordial King's shadow once, but apparently all he could do with it was create a sorcery amplifier. And to be fair the symbiotic relationship isn't that simple-Ebby needs light to define himself as a concept, but he's consistently described as hating and his very nature recoiling from.

Within the bounds of how he's willing to act and what he's capable of, he's implied to be about as strong as he can get already.

>>52465862
Point. Been a while since the last time.

Are we really so sensitive that having problems with someone bending how stuff works is considered shitposting? Really?

>>52465911
Why are you, anon? "Weak" is relative. Are you offended by humanity having to suck off air to keep living?

>>52465968
No, but when someone acts like an asshole and makes baseless accusations without giving specific examples as evidence, people are inclined to believe they're shitposting.

>>52465911
You could always shoot for the stars where nobody lives in the future (there is a planet perfect for humans inhabited by a race of B movie actors who were so annoying they get genocided at some point)

>>52465970
Nobody likes the idea of being lesser. Of being demonstrably inferior to other peoples.

>>52466009
Right, I am going to populate an entire planet by myself.

Regardless, I see humans suffering as inferiors in other systems, am I meant to just let that go on? Even if I magically inhabited a planet all by myself, I'd need to help those other humans.

>>52465936
Indian Giver, from the Thirteen Colonies jump.

>>52466001
Except any time someone does give evidence they're still told that they're shitposting.

>>52465782
>which would logically also include a Greater Imperfection-but the E6 cap was in place

Just kidnap a Solar and have them develop charms for you.

>>52466077
Thats ok anon, you do you, in your chain your jump lets you make your adventure. Become god emperor of man if you want.

>>52466119
Less god emperor, more hero who liberates them from the yolk of the elves.

>>52465911
>Aren't you offended by the idea of humans being a weak, lesser species?
Non-human species are still humans, anon. And why are you? Why should humans be elevated above all others? Do you not think it fitting that they suffer the consequences of their actions? And why do you think they deserve their place at the top when the only reason they're there is because some cosmic being (you) took pity on them and stole their victory? Pathetic, really, cutting away everything that makes humanity great.

>>52466091
>Thirteen Colonies jump
Was that made by the same guy who made the United States jump?

>>52466077
>>52466135
Lol. I'll never understand people like you, anon.

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>>52465936
Erm, for the magic-related transfers the most general solution I know of is The Binding from Storm Hawks, which uses emotionally links to transfer abilities-and also to bypass resistances, so theoretically you could siphon what you give out? If you had specific powers in mind it might be easier to figure out a solution. Otherwise, you could always bolster them with a Disney magic contract to be able to set in clauses for the powers' loss.

As for the Blue Queen-I'm less sure about this, but I gather that it's renegade-based so possibly Shaper's Authority from EVO or psychic biomancy might be able to reverse the mechanism, transferring it back?

>>52466093
>>52465968
The times people have told me I'm powerwanking, they didn't give evidence at all. I was told a few times the pastebin was a bit too obtuse though, so I tried to rewrite it to make the process more logical.

>>52466099
1. Um. I have a Solar I trust, actually. She's called Fair Eyes. Nice girl, grown up to be a benevolently mad sorceress. Recently unleashed a giant breadfruit golem on a starving village that was designed to enjoy being eaten.

2. I'm not sure that would work? I can only imagine that being based on Primordial Principle Emulation, and not only is that what explicitly only learnable b Solars. But I, in turn, have developed a Charm to prevent PPE from working on me.

3. I'm already faintly nauseous from having to rely on the Daystar's flames to empower myself. I'm a practical cosmic entity, but we're treading old ground here. THAT SAID, I /have/ been studying the properties of eradia in order to use Primordial Psychologist to try and develop something akin to Shadow Slave Extraction-but that's another kettle of metaphysics.

Are there any perks for elongation? Not enlargement, I only want to extend along one dimension. I've finally gotten Kamidachi to like and respect me enough to work with me on my schedule, and now that I've got the almighty god-sword on tap I want to extend her range. Being able to extend the blade a huge distance would turn her from a melee trump card to a potential world-slayer.

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>>52466156
>Non-human species are still humans
>Non-human species
>Human

Why should humans be lesser?

>Cutting away everything that makes humanity great.
I wasn't aware being an elf-slave made humans great.

>>52466188
You'll never understand people who don't like humans suffering?

>>52465968
Actually this is a tactic that's been used on Garlock from time to time. He'd post his megaton pastebins and the person would just say that there was too much content to read through and he was breaking the rules SOMEWHERE, but it has always turned out to be for naught as Garlock covers his ass pretty well from all the folks who actually take the half hour to two hours it take to plow through all the component parts of his plans. The only time it hasn't been been someone stirring for an argument was when Garlock tried to get around the E6 Custom Charm barrier via fuckery, which Mardukth nixed on his own.

Nowadays we just wait for either evidence to come forwards or we ignore it.

>>52466077
>Nobody likes the idea of being lesser. Of being demonstrably inferior to other peoples.
Eh it's a LN I expect for humanity to go beyond the other races.

>>52466135
Er dude you have three worlds, willing to take in refuges, being threatened so they made a defensive action. (Look we have Orbital Defenses and can stop you from taking over our world.)

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>>52466192
Orochi Warriors has just the thing, actually; it's in the supernatural perkline, and it's fluffed as the Monkey King giving you a feel of his staff to see how it works. No, not like that

It's theoretically possible with mantra from Asura's Wrath, too. One of the few known mantra-infused weapons can extend quite far. And while not a general solution I think it should be well within the capabilities of the crafting perk in Viking Saga.

>>52466206
Dude what the fuck are you even smoking? Are you one of those SJWs who thinks a group of people are still being "oppressed" because the world won't bend over three times backwards and acknowledge them as the best thing since sliced bread? There's no "suffering" to be had. How are you this deluded?

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Hey! I put this up last thread, but it was pretty late, so.
Again, please give your thoughts if you can. I figured that the main problem with Age of Adventure was the brevity of the setting write-up so, I...went the opposite direction with that.

Main plans are for this:

*Drop-ins will get some anomalies and things relating to both the Different Dimension and the Machine Kings, if not Beast-Warrior stuff too.
*Spellcasters will get...magic, mostly, they'll have different paths and probably be able to do things like craft magic items such as many of the equip spells, learn Rituals, and get familiars like the Elemental Charmers
*Warriors will get basic techniques, leadership, and advanced strength+speed "Journeys", which are representative of being down a certain path in their adventures. Probably will have a certain amount of perks per Journey and you can pick from 1 to 3 journeys, maybe.

Based off stuff like http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Zera

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Grepher

and http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gearfried

>>52466256
Well, I don't think I can craft Kamidachi, she's immutable to any effect that doesn't come from herself. So the Viking Saga solution doesn't work. But giving her Mantra or that perk from Warriros Orochi could work.

>>52466206
>Why should humans be lesser?
Why the fuck shouldn't they be of they're weak-ass bitches who were too useless to do anything before some god spoonfed them paradise?

>>52466221
>Eh it's a LN I expect for humanity to go beyond the other races.
It's not the case.

>Er dude you have three worlds, willing to take in refuges, being threatened so they made a defensive action.
Yes, making humans their inferiors under threat of releasing an anti-human toxin that will kill them all. So benevolent.

>>52466277
Being the servants of another species is being their lesser, anon. No right to self determination. No path to success for themselves. Nothing of their own. It's a horrible position.

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>>52462726
To be honest I don't put much thought into it except for a couple of jumps.

>>52463152
None of them. I picked out all of my Companions purposefully, even the ones who might accidentally the multiverse.

>>52463924
My thoughts exactly.

>>52464138
Not particularly, since I only do it if someone has utterly enraged me.

>>52466190
>Recently unleashed a giant breadfruit golem on a starving village that was designed to enjoy being eaten.
....I can't argue that that doesn't sound like a solar. Except that a Solar wouldn't be satisfied with such a "basic" meal as bread.

>>52466312
I haven't said they were benevolent. I've said that they are just taking defensive actions. The humans can get on the Arks and go elsewhere if they wish.

>>52466312
They arent servants thougj, the threat was to prevent invasion, they come to a mutually beneficial agreement.

Now Im not gonna argue morality but humans carve out their place without taking over the elves.

>>52466206
Dude what the fuck. The humans were literally invading the elves, how the fuck are they suffering in any way?

>>52466369
Yet you are defending their genocidal actions.

>>52466379
>Agreement
As servants to the elves, yes.

>Carve out their own place
Where, exactly, do they have to 'carve out'?

>>52466312
Servants? Defense against any human who /invades/ their planet? They didn't go over to the human worlds and bombard then or something.

Lol, whatever man. I'm done. This is either some elaborate bait or you're legitimately insane. Have fun reducing humanity to dependence on a slave to a non-human entity, I guess.

>>52466395
And their literal invasion was not a "genocidal action"? Yeah no, at this point it's clear that you're just baiting, or on the same level of retardation as bancho.

>>52466395
They are not servants though, they help the elves and the elves help them. In the future humanity has its own territory, no Im not sure on a starmap where.

Again in your chain you do you but the elves are reasonably decent people here. Hell they only have 1 orbital canon over each planet and the mc put them there, they are human tech.

Monsters are a bigger problem to everyone anyway.

>>52466281
Looks good to me.

>>52466422
Invasions don't typically result in outright genocide the way a race-targeting chemical weapon they still have does.

>>52466447
They are servants. Vassals to the elven nations who supply them with knowledge in exchange for board. That's a master/servant relationship.

>The MC caused the murder of entire scores of his own people.
What a monster he is.

Man, I just watched Fantastic Beasts. Is anyone else incredibly disturbed by the casual ease with which they obliviate an entire city? I, mean, it's treated like collecting trash or something.

>>52466494
Wizards are racist, yes.

>>52466494
I was more impressed with how just a few aurors managed to repair the city in such a short time. I really underestimated HP magic.

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>>52466494
1920 Wizards are pretty racist. Which kind of fits in with the times. But yeah, they were a little too eager to knock a seemingly random chunk of time out of everyone's memory. You know there had to be a few people who stayed out in the rain too long and lost a lot more than just a few hours of time.

>>52466494
I'm more disturbed that they are apparently so fucking stupid that they didn't recognize Grindenwald had replaced a high ranking member of their government. Presumably months or years ago.

>>52466554
Harry Potter Wizards not noticing things is nothing new.

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>>52466221
>E6 Custom Charm barrier

For the sake of clarity, I should clarify the idea of creating the other Exaltations later on was to surpass it by virtue of them being a new form of Exaltation designed for self-improvement which develops entirely unrelated Charms inspired by one of the concepts I encompas similar to how the Sun doesn't actually have Solar Charms, and then use the perk to bootleg the-no pun intended-essence of the Charms they developed into myself

As far as I know Mardukth hasn't prohibited this.

>>52466281
>Intro

On the one hand, it's kinda daunting. On the other hand, I can see why it's there. Do you think it might be possible to summarise it a bit further, stick to the cliff notes e.g. "this is how the goddess abandoned world, ever since magic systems A, B, C were invented and there has been much turmoil"? Not sure if you should listen to me, because it's a fairly obscure setting and the minutiae could get lost in translation

The origin/location text definitely looks good

>>52466494
I'm just regretful I didn't watch it when it came out, and have yet to since it seems to have ben quite good and I was worried it was just a tired cash-in to the HP films

Actually that doesn't surprise me though, there's an offhanded mentioned ONE wizard obviated most of a city when a dragon flew over it in the Fantastic Beasts book (the textbook released years before the film)

>>52466523
It's really good for utility stuff, just not blasting! The Department of Mysteries does have whole shelves of Time Turners after all, and a veil to the afterlife.

>>52466554
But yeah, you get the impression the utility magic's actually so efficient they've stopped using their eyes and brains when they can just woosh everything in place by pointing

>>52465968
Are we really so sensitive that we can't ignore things we don't like and have to obligatorily REEEE because we were triggered? Really?

>>52466395
>Yet you are defending their genocidal actions.
Sir, I have only said that they're actions are defensive in nature. They defended themselves with weapons they had so as to avoid the subjugation of their race, the humans can continue their journey in the arks if they so wish the Elves just don't want them to kill the fuck out of their race or pull a Drifters on them. Human's are by the large pretty fucking capable of doing the above.

The best way I can put your post into context, as I read them is as such (Using a real world thing for ease of reading)
1. Country A has nuked Country B's invading army of moving nuclear devices before it can mobilize into range.
2. Country A states that if Country B want they can immigrate to Country A no prob but another invasion will come up with another response because Country A will defend itself.
3. Country B moves in. (They have other options, and could even get there with the technology that they have)

>>52466699
>As far as I know Mardukth hasn't prohibited this.
Because he's given up.

>>52466704
The problem is, this place has repeatedly encountered shitposters who argue in bad faith and act like their opinions are objectively correct

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>>52466732
You...do realise I actually talked the issue over with him about my first idea and agreed with his ruling right?

If he wants to say otherwise, I'm game. This has never been a contest, and I've always abided by the rulings.

>>52466708
Elves created a toxin that instantly murder humans. That's an extremely hostile and evil weapon to be used by anyone, but you seem rather keen to defend the elves having something like that.

>Humans can continue their journey
To fucking where? Space isn't some big friendly field, it's mostly empty and full of dead useless rocks.

>>52462726
Parents aren't usually very important for my jumper, most of the time I just imagine myself being an orphan so I don't have to put my fictional families through any heartache.

But whenever I do go to a jump where I need to be in a family, I try to make my fictional parents as much like my real ones as possible.

>>52463152
All of my companions OCs so I never have this issue.

>>52464138
Sometimes, but usually If I ever do that then the people I'm using magic against are dicks so I don't dwell on it for to long.

>>52466808
They never use it though, its a chip to bargain with. Also they have starmaps they could keep going to another world easy enough.

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Jumpers, who is best girl?

>>52466699

It's more or less a setting that is stitched from whole cloth, with inspiration from various Quests I've seen take place in a yu gi oh fantasy realm.

It's a lot, but I'm more or less worldbuilding from scratch since Konami is retarded and hasn't done a "Planes"-like system that MTG does besides Duel Terminal, making it nigh impossible for there to be a direct setting made from the implied world of Yu Gi Oh's non-DT fantasy stuff. Any attempt to do this is going to probably require the filling in of blanks. Still, thanks for the feedback. Glad about the origin/location text, I'm trying to make this feel as flavorful as I can.

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>>52466846
Noodle. Always.

>>52466846
NonaMrow, I think it was? Haven't seen them in awhile, though. I hope they're okay.

>>52466842
But they have it. There's a reason nations on Earth aren't even supposed to HAVE chemical weapons, let alone use them, and no mustard gas or zyklon is as fucking horrifying as a species-targeting mass murder weapon.

>Another world
Again, fucking where? Do you think space is a picnic? If there even are any uninhabited planets for them to take, they certainly have a damn good reason for not going there.

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>>52466846

Mine.

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>>52466846
this is a meaningless question. Everyone's tastes are different.

also it's pic related

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>>52466846
Gonna have to go with my standard.

>>52466894
Zone? That's not a bad choice either.

>>52466893
Nope, they could go to another world, there is one a few months out by ship that has no people at all on it but is habitable. The elves are just one of the closest. Also elves dont have such laws, if aliens came to earth you better believe we would use anything to keep us safe. Space is not safe but then again they have maps from the future to go by to find worlds.

>>52466808
I'm not even sure you're talking about the same LN as I am at this point. The humans could go to the Halfling world. They have the Arks and the starmaps and the magic. They have the option to leave at any time. The elves have a weapon. No weapon is evil or hostile unless it is driven by an intelligence. In this case the intelligence behind the weapon is the elves and they've chosen not use the weapon, merely keeping the big stick around so that humans don't fuck them up.

>>52466893
As I said above they could go to the halfling worlds or just use the starmaps they have to find the territories that were controlled by humans in the starmaps they have of the fucking future! Seriously dude.

>>52466846
David Bowie.

>>52466882
Dammit anon, I only appeared to fight back against the rampant waifu industry. Don't waifu me.

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>>52466862
>It's more or less a setting taht is stitched from whole cloth

Oh! So, like a generic? Ambitious and I'd have cautioned you if you'd pitched the idea, but I must say so far it seems to be working well

In that case, it does sound very justified to get a sense of where we're going and what there is to do. I would appreciate if you could make it more concise while keeping the plot points, something like-

"This war ended in a draw, however, with the Archfiends retreating in shadow after too many of their Terrorkings were lost...while Lemuria itself was so overextended and lost so much magic in the fight that the breaking of the Seal to battle the Archfiends broke and sank the city to the bottom of the ocean, where its secrets still lie"

-replaced with something like-

"The Archfiends retreated with the remnants of the Terrorkings as Lemuria exhausted itself from the broken Seal, carrying its' secrets with it to the ocean floor"

-just to keep the gist while mitigating the textwalls, for speedreaders. I know it's a tall order and I'll understand if you think it's nitpicky, but from personal experience I know not everyone reads at the same pace so I just thought it might be worth considering at least.

>>52466846
Not who, what. A miserable little pile of secrets

>>52466846
...man, I almost didn't recognise her new design.

I don't hate it, it's just taking me a while to get used to thinking of this as Noodle

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>>52466846
Tsuyu obviously.

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>>52466935

Nope, just my go-to "I'm being lewd" picture

I don't have a best girl, cause it fluctuates. I'd have to say the only person who approached that the strongest right now is pic related

Cute, dark skin, blonde, a really selfless and kind girl while still being a brave badass, what's not to love?

>>52466960
D:

You wound me, senpai.

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>>52466973
Oh, you're a classic Noodler? I dunno, I kinda prefer the new design.

>>52467017
Also a fine choice in women.

I wonder how a lot of these fictional characters would react to be obsessed over by a bunch of nerds on the internet.

>>52466953
'Habitable' is a wide definition. 'Habitable' includes the Sahara Desert and the Arctic, both places where people do manage to live.

The elves don't have those laws, but that doesn't make the weapon any less horrifying.

>>52466955
Why is it so much better in your mind for the humans to conquer the halflings instead of the elves? I know that your morality is off because you don't mind humans being enslaved, buy it seems off that you only care about elves.

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>>52466846
Hex Maniac is Best Girl.

>>52467017
I need to invent a magic spell that destroys all high heels in the multiverse. I'm fed up with those ugly and uncomfortable shoes being force into every design.

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>>52466846
For me, Ion is best girl.

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>>52466192
Lunar Exalts have a charm for that, Wind-Wings Carry Technique. But it only extends geometrically, depending on how much essence you throw at it. Increasing the range by 2x for one mote, 3x for two motes, 4x for three motes, and so on.

It only requires a pretty low essence rating though (just Essence 2), so you could probably upgrade it a bit?


Anyway, only other thing I can think of is space-warping like the Spatial Warping power in X-Men Movies.

Worm also has Jack Slash's power, but I don't think it's purchasable.

>>52466699
>>52466732
>Because he's given up.
Actually, mostly because what he's using seem to be exaltations in name only.

I did give up on conveying the idea that he's not somehow a worse Primordial then the Yozis are for lacking custom E10 charms, considering they don't have them either. Or that high-essence charms aren't just 'harder, better, faster, stronger'. And also on reading that plan thing.

But that's neither here nor there.

>>52465782

>About (https://pastebin.com/vu8iWdwQ), yeah. Mardukth basically said I acquired unusually buff Cosmic Principle-related Charms, which would logically also include a Greater Imperfection-but the E6 cap was in place.

Actually I think I remember Mardukth saying that (You) variants of the basic Yozi charms don't count as custom charms.

Also the notes section has this

>The exception to that ban is Shintai Charms like Tenebrous Apotheosis Shintai, which grant
you the effects of the appropriate Worldshaper Assumption, Epic Panoply, and Greater
Imperfection for that Yozi.

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>>52467069

>>52466846
Who is this strange man?

>>52467076
Oh when I say havitable I mean nice enough that the mc and company spend a year or so there both on and off the ship, it occasionally turns into a jungle world that the mc crash landed on in the future that nobody had set foot on before. So when I say habitable I mean pretty nice in most respects.

>>52466846
If find the practice of waifu'ing creepy and off-putting, so I don't do it. It's weird as fuck how accepted it is around here.

>>52467055
The second from the left isn't actually Noodle but a robot form of her used as a decoy to keep. . .someone off of real Noodle's trail. I'm only mildly versed in Gorillaz story stuff. Sorry if you already knew.

>>52467142
What do you do on your chain then?

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>>52467142
You are on an autistic imagination game on a forum about playing pretend, just join the fun and do as the Romans do.

>>52467076
>Why is it so much better in your mind for the humans to conquer the halflings instead of the elves? I know that your morality is off because you don't mind humans being enslaved, buy it seems off that you only care about elves
1. You are blurring two anons together here, I am not the person(s) here >>52464006 or here >>52465759
2. I have not advocated the Genocide or Enslavement of any race.

>>52467134
>occasionally

Eventually

>>52467097
Since when did earthes get such girly fingernails?

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>>52466846
Did someone call for Best Girl?

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>>52467153
I did already know that, but it was the only picture I had on hand that showed all three of her major designs. No worries.

>>52467142
I believe there's two main definitions, or at least that's how waifus were explained to me. There's the "actually picturing yourself in a relationship with said character" way, and then there's the "this is an odd way of pointing out a character you really like, possibly your favorite, from any given setting" way. I think most people are the second?

>>52466973

I'll cut down where I can, I'm just trying to preserve the stuff that'd help spark adventure ideas and help people buy into it.
It's in that weird place that DM - Heroes is, where it has a source material but all of the actual setting is implied by card art and concepts rather than expressly given. If you consider Duel Monsters - The Heroes as generic Duel Monsters Hero jump, then I guess it's like that.

>>52467172
I dunno just found the art piece.

Then again, if you get the voice mail, doesn't she say shes looking for you?

>>52467142
>he doesn't have a waifu
How do you live with yourself? What drives you on if it's not the unconditional love of your perfect 2D waifu?

>>52467142
I think your idea that you'd be completely sexless during your chain to be even odder. How dare people find romance in their lives, right?

>>52467142
I'm just wondering why you're expecting better of a self-insert power-fantasy imagination thread.

>>52467211
Yes, she is safely on Earth and going to school, but spending all her time trying to find some clue as to where you are.

>>52467192
Ah, alright, cool.

>>52467134
>Jungle
>Pretty nice
Jungles are hell for humans. Full of disease, parasites, and predators. They're not nice places you want to settle your people on.

>>52467168
You present the conquering of the halflings as a solution for my problem of the humans being enslaved by the elves.

>>52467244
Then the picture must be a particular instance where she found her player.

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>>52467142

It's wish fulfillment, what do you want? I mean, from the other end all the people focusing intently on wanting to be the biggest and strongest with no spoken ideas on what else they care about kinda looks like pic related to me
But hey, I'm a social-punchy type so...

>>52467268
>You present the conquering of the halflings as a solution for my problem of the humans being enslaved by the elves.
I present the fact that there are other worlds that the humans can go to. Not take over. Not commit to genocide. Just go to. That's all I've said. I would like if you stop twisting my meanings or thinking I am someone that I am not.

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>>52467107
Thanks for the clearup. In all seriousness, if you do ever want to change your mind about it in the future I should reiterate, out of character that's totally cool and don't you feel no pressure no matter what nobody says

In-character, I am hideously insecure and afflicted with self-loathing. Every day is a reminder that as a Jumper, I am ultimately the opposite of what I seek to embody and propagate. Every moment is a constant struggle to not become the nightmare I oppose. That's part of why I've focused so much on becoming a Primordial-the clarity of purpose just being one brings

Also for the record I am aware they aren't just hbfs, it's the more abstract/wider scope they seem to act on that appeals. Like how Shadow Slave Extraction expands Black Mirror Shintai's valid targets, the implication A Prince For The Queen/Two Hearts As One branch off from Sun-Heart Furnace Soul or how Tenebrous Apotheosis Shintai is presumably the keystone for whatever Charm lets the Ebon Dragon hide an entire demon dojo in his shadows

>exaltations in name only

Ah, I...hadn't thought of it that way but I suppose few in the setting would recognise them as such, in hindsight. I mainly thought of them as Exaltations because they're heavily derived from the processes that generate and are generated by one.

>>52467115
Oh, right.

>>52467055
Noodle is always relevant. But some Noodles are more relevant than other Noodles.

>>52467203
Is there a site where all the material's complied, or is it a homebrew on the suptg archive?

>>52467340
Yet their choice is to either be slaves to the inhabitants or conquer them. Being a lesser population used by the native peoples certainly isn't the happy equal relationship you think it is.

>>52467088
I made a series of rolls for what my childhood friends were like in Pokemon and the one with a crush on me was a Hex Maniac.

It was almost enough to make me stay.

>>52467358

I'm using
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_storylines
for most of the ideas, with some stuff just implied from Exodia being egyptian themed and the Necrovalley for Pharaonics and my knowledge on
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Sophia,_Goddess_of_Rebirth
and her place in the Duel terminal-verse.

>>52467107

Since your here I remembered something I got curious about.

If you take the 'Return of the Infernal Jumper' does the Yozi you free have to still be a primordial when you free them, or would altering their nature as part of the attempt still count if it worked and they escaped in the process?

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>>52467091

She has a more casual outfit here, and some of her other clothes are more practical in terms of shoe-age...and not, considering one of them's a maid outfit.

>>52467440
Hey Digger, who are the major players in the world at the moment? Are Endymion and Dark Magician still alive? What are the the last three White Dragons up to?

>>52467424
... er dude the fact that the choice to leave exists means that it isn't slavery. Getting a job at the local bar isn't slavery man. Doing shit that you're awesome at and getting paid to do so isn't slavery. The weapon is only in case of total human going drifters on the elves. There is a planet that in the future is/was (Time Travel is involved) a jungleworld which means that with the right person, the human race has tons of awesome folk right now, it could become a lush paradise world easily.

>>52467486
She's got a pretty wide variety of outfits considering that she's a sewer hobo. Seriously, how does she maintain that wardrobe, she has nowhere to wash any of it.

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>>52463329
Had to do some driving for my sister, got back now.


Here's the thing, Mami's the girl that gives the battle maniac Kyouko nightmares, I mean, to begin with, she's a veteran Puella, that already should give you an idea of her skill level as it is. Certainly her emotional control leaves much to be desired, but it does not change the fact that she's survived a lot of shit and killed it before the show begins. It is that experience makes her a scary combatant. Like I mentioned before, Kyouko was like "honestly, fuck that chick" and while part of it could have been contributed to Mami's clinginess, there was the fact that Kyouko did not go anywhere near Mami's territory until the latter died. Then there's the fact that she's got a flair for creatively using her magic, those guns she summons aren't actually her main tool, her original ability was to use ribbons and she eventually started transform them into weapons so she can fight more effectively. It doesn't stop there though, since she turn those ribbons into anything, like tea cups and clones.

Generally, Mami's that nice quiet kid in the back of the class that when someone shoots up the school and shows up in your class, she doesn't hesitate to slide around the gun man out his line of sight and quickly gank him, pick up his gun, and stand watch to make sure no one else threatens the class. The thing is, through out this entire time, she's just acting normally like it was another day in school.

The Jumps I take her into just make her more scary, like the Circle of Magic where she picked up Thread Magic (enhancing her ribbon bullshit) or Wheel of Time where she became an Aes Sedai. It's not the power she has that concerns me, but how she'll be using it that at one point gave me a literal nightmare of being on the receiving end of it.

>>52467527
Don't compare your people being enslaved to the locals for your knowledge is the same as a paid job.

>Paid
In board. Same as a slave.

>Jungle
Read my fucking post about jungles. They're abject fucking hell.

>>52467527
>Haha, don't worry anon, I'm just holding a gun to your head in case you do something I don't like! I'm still your friend! Pretend it's not even there! The gun that I'll blow your brains out with!

>>52467527
Jobs are slavery.

>>52467486
Too boring and plain.

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Has Batman TAS come out yet?

I've got plans...

>>52467638
Not yet. Just wait a bit more, you can get all the damaged goods you want.

>>52467358

>or how Tenebrous Apotheosis Shintai is presumably the keystone for whatever Charm lets the Ebon Dragon hide an entire demon dojo in his shadows

Considering what the Ebon Dragon is like that seems like it could also be something that branches off from Exiled by Wicked Hate (and possibly Loom-Snarling Deception).

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>>52467638
Sounds like you need to cool off a little.

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>>52467529
I always figured she's just really, really good at scavenging for good clothes richer folks just throw away. Maybe literally, in some cases. If I wanted the local gravity hobo to patrol my neighbouhood, I'd sure hang out my spare laundry on a stick with a "to Kat, with luv" sign attached.

My own Kat actually runs her own rival clothing line to compete against Clouds'. For old times sake, sometimes she gravity-drops spares at homeless shelters.

>>52467541
>Generally, Mami's that nice quiet kid in the back of the class that when someone shoots up the school and shows up in your class, she doesn't hesitate to slide around the gun man out his line of sight and quickly gank him, pick up his gun, and stand watch to make sure no one else threatens the class

But that's literally Sayako.

And. I guess Homura would be a candidate for potential school shooter?

Man, Kyoko would be the voice of reason if she was as social as Madoka.

>>52467649
Hmm. Or maybe even Corrosive Pattern Infliction, since that's his most prominent "make stuff" Charm, and one of his souls made the Umbral Panoply after all.

>>52467665
Who would win in a snowball fight, Mei or Mr. Freeze?

>>52467665

Mei can go suck on a bag of frozen peas, no salt.

Anons, where can I get some good bros? It's occurred to me that I'm over halfway through assembling my little pantheon, and I've only got one male companion. And he's a dog. A really cool dog that I love, Sunny (short for "The Beast That Hunts the Moon and Sun") is a real sweetheart, but I need some dudes to hang out with.

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>>52467647
>>52467665

>>52467568
>In board. Same as a slave.
That's not the same as slavery.

>Read my fucking post about jungles. They're abject fucking hell.
1. Depending on the method the time travel shit works you can create a different future in which it's a paradise world. Or perhaps it only became a Jungle world after the humans left.
2. No need to be so hostile. There is not need to use curse words.

>>52467577
More along the lines of being a civilian in a contry that is taking in refuges. The government still has it means of taking care of shit.

>>52467581
With the above sir in question I don't know if your joshing or not.

>>52467218
I find the idea that you would you would obsess over someone for centuries because they appealed to you in some limited piece of entertainment from random world enough to selfishly steal them away someone from their own life and then somehow construe it as "romance" to be even more odd, myself.

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>>52467115
Mhm, yup. The variants of general charms aren't really custom charms in my mind, since they basically do the same for all Yozis.

And then Tenebrous Apotheosis-likes work with the above. It's more custom-like, since they're actually part of your charmset. But fine to make an exception for, on account of coolness and literally giving you the effects of those general charms. Tenebrous Apotheosis actually seems pretty underwhelming to me mechanically, aside from the coolness factor. Mind-Hand Manipulation alone gives you to the same combat stats. It's basically only really practical for getting more healthlevels, with the Greater Imperfection being a major drawback of it.

>>52467358
>first spoiler
No problem. I don't think I'll change my mind, but thank you.

>second spoiler
...Fair enough.

>third spoiler
Ah, my apologies then. I just got that impression (mistakenly it appears) from our conversations back then.

>>52467457
You want to alter their nature enough to not even be a Primordial at all anymore?

That... might be too close to death for them to count as getting free. I suppose it depends on how much of 'them' you preserve?

>>52467649
>>52467712
I'd guess all of the above for the shadow dojo?

>>52467712

>Hmm. Or maybe even Corrosive Pattern Infliction, since that's his most prominent "make stuff" Charm, and one of his souls made the Umbral Panoply after all.

I was mostly thinking of the previous two do to Exiled By Wicked hate being an essense 4 charm that sends beings to somewhere else, and Loom Snarling Deception being a hide things charm. Basically I figured that sending something to a nearby world (a.k.a. inside the Ebon Dragon) is probably not that much more difficult than sending them to a completely unreachable space.

Although if the Ebon Dragon actually built it inside his shadow than my question is not how, but rather 'Is that dojo even functioning?'.

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>>52462648
>Icy Titanic Love Edition
See Pic

>>52462726
I generally roll the dice for family, sometimes I get loving parents and sometimes miserable bastards. Never companioned a family member before.

>>52463152
I wouldn't say it was a terrible mistake but Riddick from Chronicles of Riddick does make it difficult to take him places sometimes. It's not uncommon to have to cast heal and memory wipes on people who don't respect his personal space.

>>52464138
As a rule I try to complete a jump without using outside setting abilities, excluding regenerative abilities and death reservation in case I get one punched. In jumps like Dead Space though I say fuck it
>Watch corpse spasm and transform into necromorph, bones cracking and bursting from flesh.
"Oh, Fuck that shit!"
>Snap fingers and necromorph bursts into a red cloud.

>>52465221
Looks cool, have to read up on setting.

>>52467777
>That's not the same as slavery.
Yes it is. You do work for your master. In exchange, he houses and feeds you. This is what the elves are doing to the humans. It's slavery.

>Different future
By what, moving the entire planet?

>Don't curse
Don't make me repeat myself.

>>52467712
>But that's literally Sayako.
Sayako talks a good game, until she's face-to-face with what she was talking shit about, then she falls apart and blames everyone else and gets herself killed.

>>52467777
It seems the gods are actively trying to alter the future for some reason so this is a possibility. Also I have no idea if he is serious or not anymore but Im not worried if he takes over the elves in his chain Im not arguing anymore.


Also I forgot to add companion ai and berserk drawback. I will do those now before final draft.

>>52467854
You mean those inhuman gods? And anon expects me to think humans are perfectly safe and fine here?

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>>52467712
>Mei vs Mr. Freeze in a snowball fight
I'm not sure, but it's on my bucket list to find out. And distribute the video footage across the multiverse for fun and profit.

>>52467715
Ouch. She'll need a little ice for that harsh burn. I doubt she'll hold it against you though. She's pretty chill.

>>52467730
Really, it depends on what you're looking for. Link is always a good choice and comes in a variety of flavors. I also rather like Doom Guy if you want someone to kick ass and take names. There's also Mad Max, who could use a friend he didn't have to worry about outliving. If you want someone a little wackier and bookish, Newt Scamander is a pretty cool guy to have around.

Then, there's always the Detective from Paprika. Considering the weirdness he's going to be seeing in the near future, he could be rather interested in the whole Jumping thing. I might also recommend checking out the casts of Persona. There's plenty of bros in the Social Links as well as the main cast. Except Yosuke from P4. Trial of the Dragon him and walk away.

>>52467877
Well some seem human enough. There are gods of pretty much all races. Including humans.

>>52467792
>selfishly steal them
You chose to jump, other people would too. You're just the type who can't handle thinking about relationships so you paint everyone else as an abuser to justify your frustration when they don't think the same way you do about romance.

>>52467882
>That spoiler
I respectfully disagree sir. That is all.

>>52467854
Question to people, companion AI are wrist mounted AI that can interface with technology and grow to be ideal artificial companions/helpers to the person who owns them. Would you guys prefer them to be actual companions or noncompanion followers?

>>52467952
Non-Companion.

>>52467518

There's a lot of players, so I'll just stick to some notables, specifically the group that ended the Age of Fire and the current leaders of the larger Warrior Kingdoms.

Endymion is the ruler of the city that bears his name, and still yet lives.
Dark Magician is honing his craft and training his adopted daughter the Dark Magician Girl somewhere in the Sogen Plains

The White Dragons are trying to find a way to find their glory, they've mostly been seeking out mates to populate their clan with but...they're picky, for good reason. Only clan that's worthy of even making the attempt is the Red Eyes Black Dragon's, and they have their own issues.

Lord Shien is mentioned and is a pretty important individual for reasons given, he's one of the stronger Warrior Kings around. His warriors are pretty top notch and he himself is skilled in both swordplay and tactics.

Xavier Matto is the current King of the Royal Empire, but is very much one who inherited the position and is more concerned with internal affairs and ensuring proper taxation and organization/diplomatic ties. His main claim to fame as a ruler is taking on Freed the Matchless General while he was still a wanderer and giving him the prestige and power he needed to win so many battles for the Royals. He also has curried favor with the spellcasters via the creation of the Royal Magical Library, which is meant to be an alternative for those who are far from Endymion and (on the downlow) for those who are not willing to be dragged into what they see as a new Proto-Lemuria. The Marauding Captain is a native, and the Royals are in a strange tension with the goblins who live close by.

The Celtic Guardian was a very famous swordsman for forest-dwelling mystics such as his wife the Mystical Elf, but he died in the attack on the Blue-eyes and was laid to rest in his home forest. In his stead, Mystical Elf rules over the forest-dwellers.
There's more, but I'm running out of space.

>>52467952
If they don't have a physical body, I'd prefer the Noncompanion Follower option.

>>52467901
They sure don't seem to want the best for humans, when half the survivors are enslaved and it's pretty likely for the other half.

>>52467882
>Really, it depends on what you're looking for.
Well, I guess I want someone with a theme that I can extrapolate out into something mythic. That's kind of the thing with my chain, my companions are all growing into some sort of larger than life mythological role. Like, the aforementioned Sunny is gradually becoming the archetype of the wolf that eats the world. So it would have to be someone who has a cohesiveness to their concept that could become something greater.

Aside from that, I want the same things anyone wants from a friend. Loyalty, shared interests, mutual support... the usual. I guess I'd have to sort that out on my own, not going to elaborate on all the things I seek in a person. So really, I guess the question is "where can I find cool dudes", and I'd have to establish the brotherhood on my own.

>>52467987
>>52467962
Fair enough, free for all as wrist mounted ai, optional 50 cp upgrade to make them able to access your mind via implant (aural implant no meat to metal required so they dont need a bracelet) sound ok?

>>52467851
>Yes it is.
Not it isn't. As in slavery you own the person. The person can't leave, they can't just go "Whelp I don't like your ways I'm heading for Ohio.", and a slave wouldn't have the choice in the matter. At any time the humans can just up and leave towards a planet whenever they wish. This is a series of Jobs that are being paid in room and board for as long as the humans want the jobs, which they can leave whenever they wish. The humans are basically being given room and board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_and_board not being used as slaves.

>By what, moving the entire planet?
Planting different plants to start with, since a world develops by what it has and as of yet it isn't a jungle, just has soil strong enough to support one. With the tech/magic they have on hand your suggestion might not be outside the boundaries of possibility

>Don't make me repeat myself.
I have been polite. I would like it if you gave the same courtesy.

>>52467854
So the timeline can be change eh? Good to know.

>>52468078
Not him, but you come across as arguing in poor faith because you started off by refusing to acknowledge any sentient species except humans as being worthwhile. You space nazi.

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>>52467142
>>52467218
People will be people. Some like to pick up a waifu or two waifus, sometimes more. Some don't and would just rather pursue some other goal like exploring, or gaining power, or building an empire, or being so fucking filthy rich that Scrooge McDuck looks like a peasant by comparison. But the goals are hardly a case of being mutually exclusive, maybe someone wants to pursue all those goals at once. Some people take it to a new level and waifu a concept. Don't ask me how that happens, it seems there's different methods for different people.

The important thing is having fun, being cool, and not stuffing your playstyle in people's faces like an autistic child who can't handle the universe going differently than they want it to go.

>>52468078
>No it isn't.
Ownership is a technicality. You just admitted yourself they don't PAY the humans. They take advantage of them to steal their knowledge in exchange for housing. That's how slaves were used in the Ottoman Empire, for one.

You haven't even proven there's anywhere for them TO move to.

>Planting different plants
You plant temperate plants, and they'll die in a jungle environment. A place becomes a jungle also because of environment. Because it's tropical and rainy. This is what causes all the predators, parasites, and disease. Not the kind of plant you have there. It'd be just as miserable if you somehow got pines to grow there.

>>52467903
Hahaha! Oh fuck. Okay, anon, whatever you say. Have fun with your imaginary harem simulator, I guess.

>>52468078
Timeline can change but its... weird. Like one of the things mc gets a quest for is to create something that foes not exist in the past present or future. Mc succeeds with baisho race (and time moose) so he changed the duture.

But the planet he does this on is the same planet he crashes on in the future which only has so much life on it because something escaped fron a dungeon he made and reproduces.

Its weird.

>>52468078
Also, the humans are spelling their own doom by giving the elves all their knowledge. They can conquer and destroy any fledgling human nation with their better foundation if they have all the humans' technology.

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>>52465332
> how about maximum floof?
Well, I always thought the beastmen/monstergirls with larger than average hands thing was kindof cool, actually. You know, like... Felicia from Darkstalkers? Or, ever seen a Midnight Lycanroc?
Speaking of, I used one as my main while playing through Pokemon Moon. I named her Buttercup and she kicked everyone's ass.

So, yeah, I've probably done that once or twice, for giggles.
"Probably" in that I've never actually thought about it before today. "How big are your hands" isn't a question you get asked very frequently, y'know?

>>52468114
I always preferred nakamas to waifus.
Not that I'm very good at forming those, but deep in my heart my companions are still my friends.

Well, except for Malefor.
He's just here for bullying.

>>52468114
>second paragraph
It's funny you say that, of all people.

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>>52468114
10/10 for the Demon Chick who tops ALL the charts.

>>52467903
>You chose to jump, other people would too.
To be fair, that is your houserule.

>>52468249
That we chose? Anon the original jump, you might want to read the intro again.

>>52468260
No, that other people would.

>>52468297
The general statement that other people would do so is not a 'rule', it's a statement about human nature.

Extrapolating that to apply to individual characters is not a 'rule' either, it's fanfiction if it's fan anything, like all of this is.

>>52468297
There's at least 50 people who seem to disagree with you.

>>52468107
I am
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>>52468078
>>52467777

I don't follow the line of your argument.

>>52468142
>Ownership is a technicality.
No it really isn't. Room and board is something that is accepted as not slavery. You could squabble about Indentured Servitude easier. The humans are not being treated as property.

>Because it's tropical and rainy.
Humans on Earth have dealt with living in places like the Caribbean and Brazil easily over the last few hundred years, we even have tribes from further back in places that are odd to believe. These humans have the advantage of sculpting the worlds growth themselves using post-modern technology and magic. Control what grows and you can prevent most of the worst things that make up the modern idea of a jungle.

>>52468154
Causality is either branching already or something else is going on.

>>52468161
Not going to say they aren't shooting themselves in the foot there.

>>52467821

>You want to alter their nature enough to not even be a Primordial at all anymore?

>That... might be too close to death for them to count as getting free. I suppose it depends on how much of 'them' you preserve?

It's less I want to and that I had that idea and wondered it if would count if it worked or not.

I don't completely remember the full idea, or if it seemed plausible enough that it looked like it would work to actually get them out or not. However the basic idea was to try to attempt it without killing them in the process. Sort of like a reversal of the Devil Tiger process.


I sort of had the idea after looking up Pirates of the Carribean magic. Which includes things like forcibly incarnating the goddess of the ocean into a human vessel among it's spells(although it was a referable process). Then I remembered that theirs other effects that can modify beings natures. Which lead to the idea of using them to modify the 'body' of a Yozi enough that it can escape do to the surrender oath basically overlooking them.

Then I remembered that a Primordial incarnated into a human body would be a perfect candidate for the Dormant Power version of Eight-Folk Drunkards Shadow from Shin Megami Tensei. Which allows you to use large amounts of magic to transform a human that wholeheartedly believes in a particular ideology into a new SMT demon.

Which lead to other ideas that I forgot about, but can basically be summarized as 'ideas for turning a primordial into something different enough to not count for the oaths while still retaining their mind and power.'

Although from what I can tell the list of Yozi that might agree to it are Adorjan. Plus regardless of it it would or not there's probably easier options.

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>>52467286
No, if she was back home, then she’d look like this.

>>52468354
>Room and board is something that is accepted as not slavery.
No it isn't. Actual pay is required for it not to be slavery

>The humans are not being treated as property.
They're being used as tools by the elves. They are property.

>Humans on Earth have dealt with living in places like the Caribbean and Brazil easily over the last few hundred years
And guess what? They're miserable shitholes.

>>52468322
No, what I'm saying is there are plenty of indicators that companions don't have a choice in the matter unless you houserule otherwise. With the exception of some options which require you to convince them, and even then the issue of whether they have any control afterwards is a house rule. There's the rule that if you fail your chain, you get to go home with your companions, the jumper has enough control to put them in stasis, etc.

>>52468379
Shame nobody made a script for those.

>>52468323
Disagree with me on what?

>>52468415
Nice fanwank senpai.

>>52468442
It's not fanwank. There's literally nothing in the rules to suggest they do, so unless house ruled otherwise, they don't.

>>52468485
You're fanwanking that it's abusive. I remember you whining for threads on threads about how much you hate companions because of your mental issues. It's sad you're still doing it.

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>>52467541
She is a combat monster, she just needs someone there who'll not mind her clinginess and get her emotionally straightened out. However seeing how the entire premise of the show is cute girls doing magical things, then get fucked over in the end, because some space rabbit's keikaku. It would be very difficult, but manageable for those Jumpers that put their minds to it.

>>52468402
>No it isn't. Actual pay is required for it not to be slavery
Slavery is when a human (or other thinking being in many fantasy worlds) is treated as property of the owner. Being paid in Room and Board is a thing as I've already posted above.

>They're being used as tools by the elves. They are property.
No the elves are giving them room and board in return for something of value. The humans, at any time, can break this deal and leave if they so wish. This is not how one treats property.

>And guess what? They're miserable shitholes.
Your saying you haven't ever heard of anyone loving life in place like that? I and many of my family have had vactions in such places and they are quite nice when kept in check, which the humans would be able to do with both post-modern tech and magic.

>>52468544
What the fuck are you talking about? No, that wasn't me, and my first post in the thread was the one talking about house rules. Stop trying to identify people on 4-Chan of all places, ya idgit.

>>52468554
'Room and board' are not pay. You need to look into what the actual fucking law says.

>The humans can leave!
To. Fucking. Where?

>Your saying you haven't ever heard of anyone loving life in place like that?
I hear people say a lot of retarded shit. Then I look at every single tropical country and how it's a fucking hellhole of disease and poverty.

>>52468415
>>52468442
>>52468485
>>52468544

While I find it extremely doubtful you have complete control of your companions or not. The rules pdf doesn't actually mention if they get to decide if they want to continue jumping with you or not.

The closest it has is

>If you return home or stay in a world without moving on and completing your chain, you can send companions to their home universes or keep them with you.

Which while I'm assuming it probably refers to the player it doesn't actually say how much of an option the companions have or not.

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>>52468360
Hm, okay.

I'm not sure what you mean with modifying the 'body' of a Yozi?

Anyway, their mind and power are pretty intertwined with their nature, considering they are their Charms and their Soul Hierarchy. Their 'powers' kind of flow from their nature, and define them. I'm not sure how you could transform them into something akin to a human, or even a SMT demon, without it essentially being death, just on account of how vastly different their minds work when compared to human-like mindsets.

More to the point though, not sure if there is a way to change their nature while still retaining their mind and power. Those seem to be the same thing, mostly?


And yeah, the only one who would even remotely consider agreeing to something like this is probably Adorjan.

what kind of ability would you get as a dragon if you had legacy of the great war in the DxD jump?

>>52468651
Why is this is argument? Why do you keep continuing this being an argument? Seriously, do what you want with your own chain and stop trying to force everyone to do things your way.

That goes for the lot of you.

Would modifying a power stealing ability to instead "send" an ability to someone in my immediate vicinity rather than myself be within the bounds of Real Eater, or is it a bit too much?

>>52468686
Do companions also get 300 free CP for the items section for Infernals?

>>52468630
>You need to look into what the actual fucking law says.
Sure.

>slavery (ˈsleJvərJ)
>n
>1. (Law) the state or condition of being a slave; a civil relationship whereby one person has absolute power over another and controls his life, liberty, and fortune
The elves do not have absolute control over the humans, and do not control their lives, liberty, or fortune.

So they're not slaves.

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>>52468801
I dunno about Real Eater, but it sounds like you want something like Combined Combat Technique from Imawabi No Dakini. It allows you to share perks with others while you're both battling the same opponent.

>>52468630
>'Room and board' are not pay. You need to look into what the actual fucking law says.
Again I have been polite I would like to be treated with the same courtesy. Room and board are in fact what the humans get out of the deal, with the elves getting stuff from the humans in return, this is more like a job or perhaps even an apparment being paid in labor. This is a trade of goods or services. This isn't slavery.

> To. Fucking. Where?
The two planets explicitly known about? The other worlds on their future starmaps?

>I hear people say a lot of retarded shit. Then I look at every single tropical country and how it's a fucking hellhole of disease and poverty.
I find that to be slightly off putting that you have written off entire sections of the Earth merely because of their economy and state of affairs, but we are all entitles to our opinions in such a case. However you have no method to counter the argument that with the ability to control it's growth and effects the Humans would be able to do some awesome stuff on said planet, your approval of it's local environment aside.

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>>52468834
Nope, sorry. They'll have to make do with the 600 or 800cp they get at base.

Sometimes I wonder if I should change that, especially with people saying it's extremely expensive to import a full set of companions as Infernals (they're not wrong). But for now, it remains like this.

>>52468953
I would prefer if Companions didn't get their own budget. I feel like Companions getting that much CP kind of cheapens my own Build, because it just feels like I'm buying out the whole Jump.

>>52468953
The fact that you would even consider appeasing the powerwankers tells us all we need to know about you. It saddens me that you've fallen so far.

Who knew asking for best girl would come to such

>>52467977
Interesting. Looks like I'll have to keep an eye out for those folk. Hmm...might revive Celtic Guardian during my stay, I'm sure that'll help the situation with the Machine King. Plus, Mystical Elf and the forest-dwellers will be happy to have him back, as well. Thanks for the info, Digger!

>>52469080
R.I.P. Anon. He died as he was walking and typing.

Im waiting for the day when someone makes a joke jump of DemonBane and fills it with op stuff.

>>52468953
I would appreciate that, but I don't feel that strongly about it. Although, for what it's worth, I've considered The Thing Infernal more for cheesing the Reclamation as a whole by having a shitton of Infernals on my side than the benefits it gives compared to Coven. Kinda agree with that anon above about getting everything in the jump feeling cheap.

The only options I feel off about is the import version of Demonic Retinue and the Lunar Mate thing, since those only give basic powers. The first is more because there's also options to make companions Infernals with CP in the same price range, so using it feels like I'm giving my less-liked companions the leftovers. The second is because of the implication.

>>52465221
I don't get that Monster Maker limitation about not being able to reach the really epic tiers. If you can develop a mana pool large enough (as many Jumpers would having being older than our entire species), why should you stop them from crafting epic level stuff?

Just say that without OOC stuff you can get them during your stay.

>>52469218
That day may very well be tomorrow.

>>52469218
There is a Suggsverse jump, if that's enough for you.

>>52468686

>I'm not sure what you mean with modifying the 'body' of a Yozi?

Basically the idea of that part is to put the Yozi in a vessel that doesn't count as a primordial, while leaving their identity and sense of self intact. So sort of like smuggling something illegal out of somewhere by hiding it in something else.

>Anyway, their mind and power are pretty intertwined with their nature, considering they are their Charms and their Soul Hierarchy.

Like I said I kind of forgot most of this idea. However if I tired this I'd probably attempt to handle the Soul Hierarchy with something based on a combination of how Naruto jutsus can seal beings in other beings and other spiritual extensions of a main being stuff.

>Their 'powers' kind of flow from their nature, and define them. I'm not sure how you could transform them into something akin to a human, or even a SMT demon, without it essentially being death, just on account of how vastly different their minds work when compared to human-like mindsets.

This part I however have an answer for. A while ago I asked if you could use the demon transformation effect of that perk on yourself and/or companions, and the ruling was that it would work as long as you/they are in a human form at the time. Meanwhile there have been cases of demons being turned into humans in the setting. Which implies that it only cares about the 'biology' of the target but not the mentality.

Which means that part of the idea is kind of reliant on this assumption being correct.

>More to the point though, not sure if there is a way to change their nature while still retaining their mind and power. Those seem to be the same thing, mostly?

I should probably clarify. With the 'retaining their power' part I meant less that their capabilities are completely unchanged, and more that the idea were on how to attempt it without reducing how much power they had available.

>>52465221
More Changes!

>Added the following item

Companion Bracelet (Free, 50 cp upgrade)
A bracelet housing an AI that will gradually (over the course of a week) Grow into a companion with an ideal personality for you as a companion, able to access nearby technology in order to gain information as well access to the internet over wireless networks. While it is not a companion it is a follower living within the bracelet, for an added 50 cp you can have your companion be uploaded into a companion chip aura implant (which works like cybernetics without the physical implant).

>Added the following drawback

Berserk Button +300
Something out there pushes your buttons in just the wrong way, this something likes to crawl around on 8 legs, makes chittering sounds, eats all kinds of insects, and possesses 8 eyes. Do you get the drift yet? Its spiders. You hate spiders. But its not exactly just hate, you DESPISE spiders, you hate them with such a blinding passion that you completely black out in blinding rage whenever you see one throwing all caution and reason to the wind in an effort to do everything you possibly can to kill it. Collateral damage will happen. You had better make sure your freinds can get out of the way quickly if one shows up.

>>52469322
I need that drawback, is it possible to turn it off or on after jump?

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>>52469283
Awesome

>>52469296
Suggverse? Can I have a link?