Modern General

>>52457999
>Do you think DSJ will die down or is it here to stay? Does it have a natural predator yet?
Tribal flames deck with deflecting palm sideboard

Force of Will in Modern desu

Ponder in modern desu.

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>tfw I just utterly btfo a $1,000 grixis goryo's vengeance deck with muh $80 stompy deck

LIVING THE DREAM BOYOS. In other news, I've decided dryad militant is probably better more often than kessig prowler, I've yet to transform one in any games because I don't ever have the spare mana for it.

>Playing?
Affinity.
>What do you think about counterspell in modern?
Too good. 2 cmc counters need some drawback.
>What is your opinion on control?
Not my thing, but if you like it go for it. I just don't want control to dominate the format. It seems more viable now than it has been historically.
>Do you think there is anything hurting the format?
Nothing that has proven itself oppressive.

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>>52457999
>What is your opinion on control?
It's cancer. I'm glad Tron is around to keep control faggotry out of our glorious format.

>>52458295
>control is more viable now than it has been
wrong and control will never dominate modern because of cancer like tron

>>52458360
Doesn't Tron have trouble against DSJ though?

>>52458392
Depends on the version of tron. I only have experience playing\ G/B Tron but I imagine G/W has a pretty easy time against DSJ between Path and all the sideboard hate they can pack.

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>mfw practicing for the last 2 weeks for the team modern gp
>mfw waiting til just now to register
>mfw i was an hour late to register before they reached max capacity
>mfw i unintentionally cucked my 2 teammates
feels bad man

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>>52458521
Go find one of the other teams and duel them for their seats at the GP.

>>52458572
I laughed.

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>>52458521
>tfw really like team modern but never get to play it

holy shit that art is CUTE! CUUTE!!!

Do any of you guys do off the wall shitbrews?

>>52459019
Not outside kitchen table.

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>>52459019
>off the wall shitbrews?
Sorry, my only shitbrew is all-walls.

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>>52459019
I've got a couple memelists if you're interested.

Here's a plain ol' Thoptersword feat. Tezz the Memer. I've also got UG Genesis Wave, Trawler Eggs, Enduring Renewal (soul sisters and pure combo), Time Walks and Blue Staff

>>52459686
>No whir of Invention + Pentad Prism package
Shameful. Truly shameful.

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>>52459705
I have another list but it's still in the embryonic stage. I don't just wanna jam Prism+Whir, we gotta go all the way with Reshape+Lotus. It must be done.

>>52459746
take a fucking screenshot you stupid nigger

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>>52459769
Will do chief, but I dunno what it'll accomplish

>>52459790
>phoneposting
>takes picture of screen rather than just screenshotting
kys my man

>>52459769
want a tappedout link too, fucking scummer NETDECKER FUCK??
Fail as balls, dude.

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>>52459790
Heres your captcha

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>>52459846
>he doesn't netdeck
Fail as balls my dude

>>52459855
>>52459840
There's objectively nothing wrong with that
>A E S T H E T I C S brainlets demand you waste time cropping screenshots and sperg out when you don't

>>52459921
WIMLTH

my hubando truly is op as balls

>>52459935
There objectively is, since it looks like shit since it was taken with a phone and obscures the deck which is the whole point of the image you stupid fuck.

>calling others brainlets when you're too fucking stupid to take a screenshot
wew lad

here have some reading: http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows

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>>52460002
>obscures the deck
You mean the shitty halfbaked manabase that myself and any other ape could cobble together? You could extrapolate all the other lands if you truly wanted
>looks like shit
Ah so it is about the aes.

here's the genesis wave meme feat. eternal gearhulk

>Playing?
5-Color Super-Friend Tron
>What do you think about counterspell in modern?
It's what the format needs. As a "Tron" player, my deck is basically a combo deck so control is my natural predator but I don't have to worry since there aren't any. Consistent & cheap counterspells that don't just delay the inevitable(ala Remand) are what would make control good. If they don't bring that in they really need to bring back a good quick finisher for the control shell, like Twin.
>What is your opinion on control?
I play it 95% of the time, especially in Draft/Sealed. The only reason I'm playing my 5-color Tron is because I don't feel it's good right now but the day it is I'm ready(clutching cryptically and JTMS should the deck be a thing again.
>Do you think there is anything hurting the format?
I woulda said Dredge and Infect but those both got nerfed so I'd say the formats okay atm. Still need real control in the format though(lantern doesn't count) imo.

>>52460311
>As a "Tron" player, my deck is basically a combo deck so control is my natural predator
I don't know about your memey tron variant but regular Tron shits all over control. Tron is a huge part of what's keeping real control out of modern.

>>52458150
I hate to be that guy but what stops them from just discarding those cards

>>52460437
snapcaster maybe?

>>52458230
>tfw losing with reanimator against 5 color humans
it hurts so bad losing to dumb aggro because combo is supposed to punish decks that can't interact but due to grislebrand it's real hard to combo at low life total
also dryad militant is sweet

>>52457999
>Do you think DSJ will die down or is it here to stay? Does it have a natural predator yet?
Kithkin. The decks only bad matchup is Living End.

>>52457999
anyone running BGX? should i buy hierarchs or no?

>>52460662
Good wholesome memes kithkin bro

>>52460788
There's something quaint about the Kithkin meme. Was there ever an actual decklist posted for Kithkin? Kinda curious about what the deck actually looks like.

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Ran into this situation while goldfishing nature barkwhip the smasher deck. What should I do?

>>52460877
Cast the Giant Catapult in your hand to restart the game with 2 extra pawns. It's really the only shot you have.

>>52460877
You need to floop the pig, and then use the remaining pylons to construct Exodia The Digivovless

>>52460877
Cast Warrior Returning Alive, targeting Wild Nacatl in your GY. Flip over your tuner of choice. Play Nettle Sentinel.Use that fight to cast Nacatl. Tap for fight. Use the fight to cast Energy retrieval, putting Temple Garden onto battlefield untapped. You have mountain from fight energy. Put an evolution counter on Nacatl. Synchro summon that thing in your hand with Nettle and your tuner. Swing out.

Can I redeem Kithkin guy /tg/?

https://deckstats.net/deck-12759443-0989cad150aa9623ea8cd343d5a56b1f.html

>>52461355
Take it to an event and post results.

>>52461500
Does FNM work for you? I'm too much of a pussy to bring that to a bigger event.

>>52461355
>>52461355
that curve is so trash you baka gaijin

put a set of aether vial, it's literally merfolk.dec in white

>>52461556
Except that Merfolk is good and has tons of good creatures and lords and I have none. Which is the problem, which good creatures can I run here?

>>52461639

Kithkin isn't great. If I had to argue a tribal angle, I'd say to make a Knight deck with Kinsbaile Cavalier.

>>52458230

Back in the good old days when hauptmann GGT was still a free man I was prone to call militant by "honorary Aryan", as it was a cunt to fight against.

>>52460877

Sick masterpieces bro, clearly from Amonkhet. Did you break the bank to buy them all?

>>52461781
Welcome to the NWO

>>52462050
NWO was in place before that and doesn't even apply to rares you fucking mong, don't go around spewing things you don't know about. It's not about NWO, it's that they're a bunch of incompetents.

>>52461781
Even with Cage in the format BR Zombies was tier 1, so this is a complete retardation on their part.

>>52460696
No, some Abzan lists are running them but in my experience they have been lackluster

>>52462138
Turn 2 Lilly isn't very lackluster IMO

>>52462347
In the time I played with hierarch in the deck that happened exactly once

>>52460433
>Oh you countered my Karn?
>Hope you have 4 more for my ulamogs and I Ugin next turn

>>52461781
What da fug

>>52462802
So every single time you got lili and hierarchy in hand they killed it?

>Ask what blue needs to be more competitive in Magic
>Get told to practice more and git gud
Just wondering how many more times do I need to practice before 80% of my tier 1 matchups even when played optimally I have a 70-30 win rate?

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>Playing?
Affinity, Burn, Tron, and trying to import Legacy taxes
>Hating?
Prices on Liliana, Snaps, and Goyf. I have everything else, but I refuse to pay the prices they ask so I do without.
>What do you think about counterspell in modern?
Would be perfectly fine. Double blue is enough of a drawback- we already have plenty of similar dispruption.
>How do you think it would affect the meta/other archetypes?
As fast as the format is, I'm not sure if we would ever see a true draw-go style control deck. Might give control decks more game against Tron though. If it becomes too oppressive we have a gigantic selection of counter-hate in modern already.
>What is your opinion on control?
I enjoy playing against it, but rarely with it. It's not a play style I'm very familiar playing with, but for some reason I love baiting spells and grinding through removal.
>What do you think would be a healthy addition to Modern? Are you opposed to supplemental product?
I'd love for WotC to print some older cards that aren't quite Legacy viable, but might could find a place in modern. Counterspell being one of them. Flametongue Kavu, Plague Spitter, Braids, Cycling lands, the Decrees, Cabal Therapy, Pillage
>Do you think DSJ will die down or is it here to stay? Does it have a natural predator yet?
It's here for awhile. Something will crop up to counter it if it becomes too prevalent.
>Do you think there is anything hurting the format?
Lack of decent cantrips. Just ban the Storm wincons besides Dragonstorm so we can get a few rituals and the cantrips back.

>>52462963
The deck plays 3 nobles and 3 liliana of the veil. You also need two untapped black sources, one of which must be green. I realize this isn't impossible but I wouldn't call it consistent by any stretch of the word.

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Post high res pics of cool card art.

>>52463236
Buy Chinamen fakes

How many of you keks only play online?

>>52464412
for modern yeah

>>52464412

Yes
Xmage because I'm a student

>>52464412
I play on xmage once and a while

MODERN LEGAL LANDS WITH CYCLING AND THEY'RE FETCHABLE TOO AND THEY'RE DUAL LANDS HOLY FUCK THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT LOAM CONTROL NEEDED

>>52465040

You're getting too hype

2 cost cycling is pretty prohibitively expensive

>>52465394
And still the fact that they come in play tapped unconditionally. Sure, they are not bad and cycling actually makes them good, since they fix your card in top deck mode, but you still can't play too many of them as they might fuck your first few turns.

>>52465040
I like them. They're not so good that everyone wants 4, but they're not so weak that they're automatically dismissed. I'm going to try out 2 replacing Copperline gorge in Burn.

Why isn't anguished unmaking 2 mana?

>>52465501
spending mana on cycling in burn? youd really rather just run shocklands and basics for hate

>>52465622
Because then it would be good

>>52465622
Because Utter End had to be 4. Exile Target Non-Land Permanent at instant speed for 3cmc or less with no drawback would be broken.

>>52465779
>Broken
I mean not really. It would just be good.

>>52458521
Wow, how sad :(

I'll try remember to nag my teammates if I ever get around to doing that.

Also... team modern GP? Y'mean like in the side events?

>>52465710
Don't tell me what I would rather do. You're not my mom!

>>52464412
MtGO yes.

>tfw Aven Mindsensor is getting a standard reprint
>not having to use the ugly invocation frame
>no longer having you autism triggered by the old timeshift frame

Feels good man

>>52466717
>not being triggered by M15 borders
Shit taste desu

>>52466797
It's barely noticeable to me, but I started in Theros so maybe I'm too much of a newfag to care. Timeshift frame made me sperg out, especially when only 2 cards in the deck have them.

>>52464111
Tell me about thrun

Why does he suffer the silence?

>>52463080
>Been playing exclusively Grixis Delver for about a year and a half now
>Love the deck to pieces
>It's inherent weakness to half the current metagame is starting to really annoy me
>"git gud"

If all of my matchups are unfavorable anyway, shoukd I just play tge objectively worse but objectively more fun RUG Delver?

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>>52458335

>>52467169
>objectively worse
I find I do well with it. Moreso than grixis.

>tfw killed myself cycling skreet wraiths too much

feels weird man

I'm new to modren. I have a mono green devotion deck. Should I make this? https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/instant-deck-tech-harvest-wave-modern

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>>52466797
>not being triggered by m15 means shit taste
Eat fucking shit you mongoloid retard.
You wanna talk triggering templates? Just look up any green card pre-M15.
Bottom of every card, next to where a creature power/toughness would be - there's this ugly ass leaf stalk. On every damn card. Sticks out like a sore thumb and is one of those can't-unsee deals that pisses me the fuck off.

I fucking danced when they covered up that hideous eyesore with the m15 template. Good FUCKING riddance.

>>52463080
>Wants a 70% win rate in top play.
This will never ever happen. Here, have a red pill.
https://youtu.be/lq8DbA0Ermw?t=692

>>52467399
Proxy the Genesis Waves and Eldrazi Titans, see how you like it.

>>52467788
Faggot I was saying that the majority of blues matchups are 70-30 in favor of the opp

>>52467808
Oh ok I'm sorry let me go back and unpack that
>>52463080
>how many times do I need to practice
>before 80% of my tier 1 matchups
>even when played optimally
>I have a 70-30 win rate?

>Faggot I was saying that the majority of blues matchups are 70-30 in favor of the opp
Yeah you weren't saying that. You almost did, but nope. Maybe you you should pratice more and git gud at English first.

>>52458521
Suck their dicks to make it up to them sissy anime watching white boi

>>52468099
If he is what you say then you're just enabling his bullying fetish.
If you know this and are doing it anyway then you're just opening an RP.
Either way you're both faggots.
Though you're right. Sucking their dicks probably would make it up to them.
Now we're all faggots.

>>52466994
What's the other card? I'm guessing you're on hatebears and the other is horizon canopy.

>>52468268
Of course he has a bullying fetish, he's crying through an anime girl about letting his friends down in a card game

>>52467808
For future reference, you literal piece of human refuse, when you are describing a percentage based matchup the first number describes YOUR rate. So the correct way for you to describe it would have been "30-70".

>>52468587
That winrate for Blue decks seems about right

Looking to get back into mtg after a few years, I feel like standard is cancer so looking at playing modern. I have a decent sized collection with older rares (playset of vials, a couple goyfs, etc..) so I'm looking into trading to complete a viable modern deck without breaking the bank

Tldr - looking for suggestions for decks which are fun and viable, but preferably not insanely expensive

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>>52468984
depends on what cards you have and what kind of deck you want to play. if you have goyfs already then every deck might cost you about the same to build

>>52469019
They literally said they are not.

>>52469681
Hopefully they'll do a functional reprint that just triggers off your own cycling for 3 or less. I can imagine they'll make it cost 5 to play, and then 2 to blink a creature.

>>52469681
They're printing it in HoD :)

>Playing
Trying to build an eldrazi tron deck, but I'm relatively poor
Also putting together a budget W/U control deck, which is fun, but again, budget is getting in the way.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to essential cards for W/U or eldrazi decks?

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>>52468984

>>52469019
I don't understand why people want to just play old standard decks

>>52459790
Charge your phone you raging homo.
10/10 trolling though

>>52470017

>modern possibility storm

can someone explain pls

>>52468358
x2 aven
More than that is too many, less and I never see it

What's the best deck that uses Aether Vial?

>>52470017
>money is no object, only winning
>blue control decks

thats plain wrong

>>52471631
Eldrazi and Taxes or Merfolk, probably. They're both T2 iirc

>>52471903
Regular dnt is better than ent

>>52472572
Agreed. I tried ent and the deck never came together for me. It was like trying to run a 3 color deck with no fetches

>>52467643
just dont play green ya dummy

>>52462347
>T1 Hierarch
>T2 lotv
>get a free Raven's Crime or Chainer's Edict
>versus a T1 IOK T2 Bob/Abrupt Decay/whatever

Surely I am missing something.
But I am in the camp that believes lotv is only expensive because of price memory, as the card shouldn't be more than $40-50 at most

Been trying to figure out where my niche is in Modern. I was thinking about Grixis control for a while, but it doesn't seem especially good right now.

What do you guys think of a budget 8 Rack deck and maybe splashing green later for Tadmogoyfs? Guy on Turn One Thoughtseize was talking about how 8 Rack is looking good in the meta right now and splashing green for Tarmo is promising.

>>52473445
>8 rack with goyf
Might as well play BGx desu

>>52464451
>>52464527
>>52464554
>>52466636
Why are you here.

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>Street Wraith, Street Wraith, Street Wraith, Street Wraith, Fetch, Death's shadow
Fug dis game

>>52473445
Just throw in geralf messenger if you REALLY want a beater in 8rack.

He also synergises with smallpox.

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>>52464111
For all your talk about expensive decks, none of you keks have any cards and a non-potato camera?

>>52473836
Autism

>>52474026
Autism doesn't prevent you from taking a picture, anon.

>>52473836
I really see no good reason to whip out my camera and take photos of cards.

I can only imagine you want them for nefarious purposes. Maybe you can just tell us why you want the photos and I'll consider it.

>>52474100
>nefarious purposes
>a picture of a piece of cardboard

The fuck? The only thing I can think of is making fakes, but you wouldn't use a picture like this, I'd assume you'd use a scanner.

>>52474100
>nefarious purposes
Fucking lold

>>52474132
>>52474150
Could be a counterfeiter or some ebay asshole looking for photos of good shit to pass off their fake shit.

I buy the counterfeits myself. But I do find it filthy that someone would hawk fakes as real. Fuck Wizards not your fellow player.

>>52474100
>Maybe you can just tell us why you want the photos

Because there is hardly any high resolution pictures of cards out there and I really enjoy mtg art. Always like 233x300 and shit, can't see any detail. Whenever I order cards online once I get them I see all sorts of little details I didn't notice/couldn't see in the tiny low res pics.

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>>52474176
>is a paranoid retard
>buys counterfeits too

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Oh fuck guys, I sure hope no elite hacker uses this picture for nefarious purposes.

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>>52473836
BEHOLD THE NEW META SHARK BREW IT BEATS ALL TIER ONE DECKS AND ONLY LOSES TO THE MIRROR

>>52474317
I like your boseiju, family. Looks cool.

>>52474313
>mm finks
>foil mm finks
>probably the stompy fag from a few threads ago
kys my man

>>52474403
Yep, glad I made such an impact you remembered me. Been having a ton of fun with my stompy deck. I get a lot of wins against $1,000+ decks but honestly it's the rage scoops that are the best, they can't deal with getting owned by stompy.

>>52474522
>I get lots of wins with stompy
>rage scooping to stompy
What kind of decks do they play in make believe land anon?

>>52474632
I'm pretty new so I don't really know what I'm playing against a lot of the time. But the ones I've beaten that I know what they were are tron, grixis, burn and abzan.

Feels stompy, man.

>>52474313
I've haven't played magic in forever so stupid question but, how would you pay for the green/white cost on there? Dual land or just whichever color you have?

>>52474780
You either pay G or W for each G/W symbol

>>52474317
7/10 good effort
>emeria, 2 plains
>swords to plowshares

>try to play Abzan CoCo

>slower than Bant Eldrazi and Affinity
>get controlled to shit against DSJ
>other graveyard decks are better and outvalue you while you can't even sideboard against them because it fucks you too

It feels like this deck's only good match ups are other t2 decks and fucking Burn.

>>52475362
You can sideboard nihil spellbomb

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>cycle lands

>they also have dual types

Who here hyped?? Making them fetchable is sweet, and more forest/mountains for Valakut is also sweet. Not to mention fringe decks that love cycling lands (loam, treasure hunt etc)

>>52475425
Yixlid jailer is always a spicy option and it's CoCo-able, plus doesn't shut off Persist.

>>52475721
these lands are fucking garbage. there is zero (ZERO) reason to ever play these instead of shocks in modern. passed the on-color shocks and fetches, you play basics, fast lands, or off-color fetches (ie lands that can come in untapped).

the only place these will see play is standard and frontier (HAHAHAHHA). these lands are garbage and anyone who likes them should go back to yugioh where you belong.

>>52475721
These are trash

>>52464111
Honestly one of my favorite cards printed in the past several years

Are there any decks in modern that actually use him?

>>52475951
He's usually sideboard
But I agree thrum is pretty cool

>>52475951
I've seen GBx decks have them in the board against blue control (lol) and there's that one memey troll worship deck that uses him,

He's not totally unplayable but there are often better things to do with the mana.

>>52475851
just like Cinder Glade right?
and Mistveil Plains?
Even shit lands can slot into decks if the context is correct.

It will see play in R/G Valakut at the very least.

>>52475721
Are there enemy colors?

>>52476337
nope

>Playing?
Esper Delver and Revolt Zoo
>Hating?
Tron
>What do you think about counterspell in modern?
It'd be okay, but not great. Too reactive in a format that's very proactive imo
>How do you think it would affect the meta?
It probably wouldn't too much
>What is your opinion on control?
It's enjoyable if I'm playing against it, never liked playing as it
>What do you think would be a healthy addition to Modern? Are you opposed to supplemental product?
I have no clue. Probably better cantrips or draw spells
>Do you think DSJ will die down or is it here to stay? Does it have a natural predator yet?
I think it'll stick around, though I do think cracks will show eventually and push it down to the lower half of Tier 1 once the meta adjusts to it
>Do you think there is anything hurting the format?
Honestly, Death's Shadow is hurting the format a little. I feel like if you're playing Black you have to play DS or you're not playing optimally. And DS is a package deal: you get DS you get Thoughtseize and Street Wraith with no drawbacks, you can fetch/shock all day. You apply an insane clock while also stripping answers. I think the meta can and will shift around it, however.

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>>52476429
I agree with Shadow, it's not busted and not an auto-win but it really feels like what you're doing is about 10% better than everything other decks do.
Also is this dude here finally not shit?
>kills shadows
>buffs tarmogoyfs
MIRROR BREAKER

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>4 out of the 12 people at my modern event tonight were on tron
>2 of the non-tron players dropped after 2 rounds because of this
This isn't what Twin died for.

What will meme the shit out of tron and DSJ? Doesn't matter what tier.

>>52476757
affinity

>>52476757
Specifically both? Free Red Win.

Turn 1 Bloodmoon/Chalice

>>52473287
>But I am in the camp that believes lotv is only expensive because of price memory, as the card shouldn't be more than $40-50 at most

And that's why you are bad at magic

LotV is very very good against all creature-based modern decks. Curving into her or dropping her turn 2 is extremely powerful

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>>52464111
I just love this card in general

>>52476882
>LotV is very very good against all creature-based modern decks
Only if you can back her up with discard and lots of removal. If your opponent can only get 1 creature on the board lili is fantastic, if they can put multiple creatures down she's just a 3 mana edict and dies immediately. There's a reason only GBx style decks play lili, she fits those decks perfectly but doesn't slot into anything else.

>Playing?
Abzan Company and Naya Burn
>Hating?
Fucking fish, and maybe DS a little bit
>What do you think about counterspell in modern?
Definitely fair. Might actually make U/B or Esper faeries viable somehow.
>How do you think it would affect the meta?
Finally a real reason to play blue. RIP Twin.
>What is your opinion on control?
Respect it, takes more skill than I have.
>What do you think would be a healthy addition to Modern? Are you opposed to supplemental product?
Some kind of card that could support a deck that preys on non interactive decks to reduce the amount of killer Aggro in the format. Maybe an aura that lets you create token copies of a creature.
>Do you think DSJ will die down or is it here to stay? Does it have a natural predator yet?
Burn is already a natural predator IMO, it just comes down to patience. That being said, it's still early in the meta so there's plenty of time for things to shift.
>Do you think there is anything hurting the format?
DS is just another problem in a long string of overpowering threats in relation to underpowered answers. There needs to be a healthy balance between the two.
>Am I still salty about Twin being banned?
The foil playset of twins that I bought a week before B&R and then sold for an 80% loss would say that yes, I am indeed very salty.

>>52475721
Just what my UBX Treasure Hunt needed.

>>52457999
>Playing?
Saheeli Eldritch Evolution
>Hating?
Tron. My match up against tron isn't bad but fuck tron.
>What do you think about counterspell in modern?
Ok I guess
>How do you think it would affect the meta/other archetypes?
Not massively. It would allow grixis control to play more counterspells without having them become useless since it's pretty slow and grindy.
>What is your opinion on control?
Not great right now, but I disagree with people who act like the sky is falling the moment their favorite archetype isn't the best.
>What do you think would be a healthy addition to Modern? Are you opposed to supplemental product?
Baleful Strix. I am opposed, I'd rather not have supplemental products be limited by what would be too strong in modern, and I think having some supplemental products be legal and some not would be a big mess.
>Do you think DSJ will die down or is it here to stay? Does it have a natural predator yet?
It's pretty good, the clear top deck in my mind, but not back breakingly so.
>Do you think there is anything hurting the format?
Tron

So I've played a few Infect games, and it reminds me of my favorite deck, Heroic. How do I not get my asshole blown out by the plethora of midrange decks I constantly play against? How do I survive against DSJ when they Thoughtseize my creatures away? Pls help

>>52477154
Infect is not good anymore anon. it lost gitaxian probe and dsj became the most played deck. inkmoth is your best card against a midrange meta, plus you can try running more spellskites but it still going to be hard

>>52477154

Maybe try going Bant for extra removal? Path+Condemn seems like it would be backbreaking against DS.

>>52476882
>very good against all creature-based modern decks
Nah. Big Elspeth is better. Uptick to fight wide, downtick for a few big creatures.
It's just the mana cost that makes her a sideboard at most.

lotv works for Junk/Junk/8 Rack because she works well for their discard/remove gameplan, and distracts attention away from the player himself.
She fits into a frame. She does not take over games herself, nor are any of these decks built around her. They are certainly weakened without, but not crippled.

Running a Hierarch in Abzan just to get lotv out a turn early is incredibly questionable. This was the original statement being responded to.
She is good, but not that good.

>>52474317
Needs mox opals desu, also needs a sphinxes rev for 20

>>52477154
Nobody plays infect after Probe was banned and Push was printed.

>>52477237
Yeah I figured, guess I'd have to go heavy on the protection or countermagic and lean on Inkmoth

>>52477243
I guess I'd force them to choose between my removal and my creatures if I went that route, and since Probe is banned Infect's a lot slower and a lot less safe, so I'll have to strap in for longer games. I might play Serum Visions too then

>>52477154
You should have started playing infect before the probe ban senpai you missed out.

>>52477154
I would avoid Infect for now. The mechanic is still mindblowingly strong, but the meta is shifting away from hyper-fast aggro into aggro with sustain.
Infect just doesn't do well, unless someone figures a built that provides regenerate/similar

>>52477344
Having 3 mana on 2 isn't just for Lili, there are a lot of other things you can do as well. The exalted trigger is actually relevant too since it can break goyf mirrors and help your tokens trade in the mirror.

There's also the argument that she helps under a blood moon but that one is kinda dumb since those decks usually end up bolting her anyways.

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Forest Belcher is fucking nuts holy shit

I probably exist in a scrubshit meta but this deck fucking ruins people

>stomped everyone in my meta with janky decks
>they start buying up
>now it's all bant eldrazi, DSJ and tron
>no matter what I do with jank decks, I always lose now

So this is the price of getting more people to enjoy your format...

Even the old players that also had jank decks stopped coming

Kek kek kek kek kek.
James Fazzolari just got caught cheating...again

>>52477753
Big stakes this time too - it wasnt the early rounds of a gp this time, but a pptq. Dude is habitual. Can't be rehabilitated

>start playing legacy
>can play blue without hating myself

Feels good man

>>52477368
Infect will get right back up on its feet the moment we go back to Mirrodin and they give us the 1-mana 0/1 with Prowess and Infect or 1-mana 1/1 with Haste and Infect

Don't look at me like that. You know they have to print a 1-drop that has to have some chance of making it in Standard.

>>52477839
sad

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>>52477908
>thinking infect is coming back

>>52477443
List, brother.

>>52478044
>no good mechanics coming back ever
>but Morph? A-okay.

>>52478079
Infect is a retarded mechanic, or poison is to be more precise. It's literally just a 2nd type of damage that works exactly like all other damage to players does except it's separate, doubled, and you can't interact with it using life gain and similar effects. Poison adds nothing to the game over regular damage while essentially stopping a bunch of cards from not working when people are playing with it.

>>52477753
Source?

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>yfw MTGSalvations April Fools

>Playing?
Zoo
>Hating?
Death's Shadow (aka fotm)
>What do you think about counterspell in modern?
Never
>How do you think it would affect the meta/other archetypes?
Shit would break things, it is to versatile.
>What is your opinion on control?
I love to hate it. I believe it should always make up 30-50% of the top tier decks.
>What do you think would be a healthy addition to Modern? Are you opposed to supplemental product?
Bring back Twin.
>Do you think DSJ will die down or is it here to stay? Does it have a natural predator yet?
fotw that will die down soon enough.
>Do you think there is anything hurting the format?
The players.

>>52478348
>Death's Shadow
>FOTM

Sorry friendo, new jund is here to stay

>>52477092
>Saheeli Eldritch Evolution
Is this deck fun? Seems like it would lack decisions

>>52477753
Do you have a source?

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>>52478421
This is my list currently. The major decision points are what to search up with your evolution, whether to combo ASAP or build up a board, and when/what to blink.

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>>52457999
nice trips
>DSJ
i've been fooling around with an enchantment prison build and i haven't gotten many games in but i think it should do well against dsj. if you curve out up to turn 4/5, you can essentially lock them out as they will deck out before drawing enough mana sources to deal you a single point of damage through leyline, ghostly prison, sphere of safety, etc. Suppression field, runed halo, leonin arbiter ideally give you time to stabilize
>hurting the format
prices imo

>>52476757
i would guess some manner of hatebears

>>52476801
how could free wins red be good against tron?
neither moon nor chalice stops them from o-stoning your board on turn 5

>>52476735
>tfw my last few fnms i took grishoalbrand and got paired against thoughtseize decks half the time.
>tfw tron, eldrazi, and slow combo sitting all around me
just let me smash tron nerds one time desu

>>52477154
maindeck spellskite/pulse of murasa perhaps

>>52478469
staticaster is legit

>>52472572
>>52473101
EnT is worth playing over regular DnT for Displacer alone, it's medium key the best card in the deck. Blank removal, tap blockers, chain etb, anything else a repeatable cloudshift could do it does.

>>52478914
Tec edge > eldrazi temple
Displacer dies to bolt and has no evasion
The sculler/displacer/strangler package is clunky.
All the colorless sources and duals make you highly susceptible to bloodmoon.

I'd rank g/w or mono white higher in power.

>>52479228
Why did you post this? Shit ain't even modern playable.

>>52478914
Just play Displacer in mono W you faggot.

>DSJ still on the rise despite having 10% of the metagame

>>52478469
Do you just really really hope no one is playing remand?

>>52478469
Spirit of the Labyrinth might do you good.

>>52471054

>can someone explain Modern possibility Storm

Sure thing I actually play the deck from time to time for hilarity. You basically use Possibility Storm to hardcast an Emrakul the Aeons Torn for free through its trigger thereby getting you a free turn and then attacking, the old method was to use Ornithopter but this prohibited you from playing any artifacts but the new thing to do is to use Endless One so you can now play mana artifacts like Pentad Prism.

So what you do is get Possibility Storm on the field, cast an Endless One, Possibility Storm replacement effect happens and starts exiling cards from the top of your deck until a creature is revealed, since Emrakul is the only creature in your deck you get to CAST it for free through Possibility Storm's effect thereby getting the Timewalk effect of the cast. Attack next turn with Annihilator 6 and you should more or less be able to win from there on out.

Funny thing is it's actually quite difficult for them to interact with trying to remove your Possibility Storm since they'll end up casting something random instead.

>>52479674
The Voices help there. Also there's not many people playing remand these days.
>>52479685
Dies to too many types of removal for my liking.

I've been considering building Ponza. People at my lgs think it's garbage, but I'm not sure if I should buy a higher tier deck over playing something I enjoy.

I dont know, man. I'm getting some money on june and I can basically building anything. Should I go for Jund? Affinity and risk wotc going crazy and banning mox opal? Just build Ponza?

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>>52479755
only one guy memeing about mox, dont worry about it

>>52479692
Oh so it's basically a harder to disrupt polymorph deck.

>>52479786
And if you're playing against some sort of fucking meme deck like living end that can play through possibility storm and kill emrakul, possibility storm + teferi creates a hard lock

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>>52479863
>Mfw at team modern gp right now
>Mfw i win my match 2-0 with living end
>Mfw my teammates get hit by the bad match up and the other mully to 5
>Mfw I lose even if I win

>>52480674

RIP your life. At least the matches were fun?

>>52480685
Sure was, the guy flubbed and jumped the gun in game 2 by spell piercing violent outburst, was about to go to game 3 then asked, 'spell Pierce on the violent?' and he was like yeah, and I'm like 'alright cascade still goes off', and he's like, that's right, I need to wait for the living end to show up and I'm like yeaaaahhhh.....

>>52480752
Oh god that's hilarious. Reminds me of the first time I played against Storm.

>>52479755
Yeah... wotc tends to ban cards that are part of a problem deck. None of the decks using Mox Opal right now are a problem.

@PitifulKnight on cockatrice

kill yourself

>>52480752

So you lead him into spell piercing the violent outburst by asking if he was doing it, implying it was the right play, and once it was confirmed you let him know it was bad?

That's pretty scummy

>>52481058

>using cockatrice

kill yourself

>>52481067
The way he worded it, it sounds like the guy actually played spell pierce in response to violent outburst. At a casual game you might let something like that slide, but in a GP main you can't make mistakes like that.

>>52481067
It sounds like the dude just threw spell pierce out there before he cascades and he had to confirm if the opponent was casting it on outburst or showing he had it for living end. I'd do the same tbqh

>>52481191

Yeah if the guy revealed spell pierce in response to outburst I would double check to confirm that's the play he wanted

But i wasn't sure if he played outburst and went "you gonna counter it?", It's kinda ambiguous

>>52481334

Oh I see now, yeah he revealed preemptively and livingendbro double checked to confirm the play he wanted to make before he scooped em up

makes sense, totally reasonable play.

>>52481353
LE guy here, exactly what I did and what he did. I actually think that was the first time in a while someone misplayed their counter, they usually wait until I get to the cascade part and reveal that I cast living end, then they fuck me with the counter, but he straight went 'spell Pierce it(pointing to the outburst)' and that's when i assessed what he just said/did.

>>52479621
It has 7%, mtgtop8 includes all flavors of DS into one category.

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Speaking of living end
>tfw you kari zev's expertise and kill DSJ with his own shadow

What's the best modern deck for someone who's bad at Magic?

>>52482576
Gbx midrange desu

>>52482576
People will say burn and tron but Ad Naus is probably the most linear deck you could possibly play. Just learn the little nuances of the deck (like holding priority when you cast lightning storm to drop a bunch of lands for it) and you'll be fine.

Should I pull the trigger on MartyrProc? I like the idea of gaining tons of life.

>>52482690
Soul Sisters is the more resilient lifegain deck.

>>52482690
Gaining tons of life doesn't do much in this format unless you're going infinite.

>>52482690
>>52482729
>>52482778
This desu. Lifegain is not a win condition, you have to weaponize it, and soul sisters does that much more consistently.

>>52482594
>nonlinear deck where decisions and play skill actually matter
>for bad players
Top kek

>>52482576
This >>52482643 but be warned that Ad Nauseam can get really boring to play really quickly. You really need to love what that deck is doing (or don't care at all about what a deck does as long as you win).

What the fuck did I just watch on stream? Because holy shit Pascal Maynard went the fuck OFF with Krark Clan Eggs.

>>52482643
>>52482837
I was being half serious, but thanks, think I'll go for it. I'm just shit at strategic thinking no matter how much I practice. I've tried Ad Naus on XMage and I love drawing my whole deck.

>>52482831
The answers are so strong and cut and dry that mistakes go unpunished many times and the deck edges out wins through sheer power. Get over yourself. I never said it was brain dead but it certainly is forgiving and not that difficult

>>52482845
How does one get this excited about cycling eggs? Or Magic in general desu, it's pretty tame.
How do you
>go the fuck OFF

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>>52482810
>Lifegain is not a win condition
Felidar Sovereign and Test of Endurance beg to differ

>>52482923
Ok time to leave. This is the Modern General.

>>52482923
One of those is not modern legal and the other is an uncastable creature that doesn't immediately win you the game

>>52482919
>Play Hangarback
>Sac it
>Sac the Thopters
>Play another
>Sanctum of Ugin triggers, go get Emrakul
>Sac it all off again
>Play Emrakul
>Win

>>52482923
Sure, but you need that extra card to combo with the lifegain. Also, felidar soverign is a 6cmc creature and test of endurance isn't Modern legal.

>>52473287
You're forgetting she is played in legacy as well.

>>52479786

In a nutshell yes. But it's also a more hilarious Polymorph deck, the key exception is that Polymorph technically does not "cast" the dude where as Possibility Storm will. It's also the one deck where you get to play Zoetic Caverns. That's some spicy cards right there.

>>52470017
Is Boss-Ass Witch on here? I don't see it.

>>52475721
I'm interested to see how these play out. I don't think they'll be game breaking, but hopefully they'll find a place.

>>52475851
>t. I started playing in Kaladesh

>>52475851
Holy shit you're dumb. These are incredible. They let you cycle out late game land drops for real cards.

>>52482576

Jund. The only thing you have to learn is what to make the opponent discard

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how does this garbage look

>>52475851

Scapeshift decks might play them.

>>52482576
Bogles, so long as you can mulligan worth a shit.

>>52483372
please never post snapcaster-less UR in this thread again thank you

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>>52483372

those full art lands aren't even out yet, 0/10

>>52479755
just build scapeshift if you want to play RG

>>52475851
2bh these might single handedly breath life into loam decks, which as an archetype has been suffering for years. they're decent, just niche m8

>>52483461

you're not going to believe me but I forgot about snapcaster

i'll add him and see how it goes

>>52483372
>gonna cast a FUCKING FIVE DROP with mah 20 lands lol
m8
-2 dank dwellers, -3 meme in the ice, -1 izzet charm, +4 stormchaser mage, +1 mana leak, +1 vapor snag

>>52483372

Why not play 1-2 copies of Wandering Fumarole as an extra beater if needed? I know the CIPT doesn't warrant a 4x but you could probably run 1-2.

>>52483372
Get rid of 1 Steam Vents, 1 mountain and 1 island.

Replace with 2 Blue/AnyColor fetch and Red/AnyColor fetch.

-2 Dank Dwellers +2 Stormchasers.
-3 Thing +2 or 3 Smug Caster and/or 1 more Leak

>>52483372

Could probably run Sulfur Falls as painless duals.

>>52483524
>>52483691
>>52483737
>>52483794

Aight, dank dwellers removed, 3 more fetches in, 4 snapcasters and stormchasers

Overall lower curve and more fetches for searing blaze should do wonders

And for sulfur falls, I actually prefer spirebluff as fastland, but I could try it

>>52475851
Is this bait or are you an idiot?
These are great nigga. All the usefulness of duals, now on the much beloved cycle lands

>>52484082
>All the usefulness of duals
>Every single last bit of usefulness for dual lands
>Every last bit
Except for that thing where we want to cast spells with lands the turn we play them.

>>52483174
>not winning before the game becomes "late"

How does it feel that bogles masterrace just rekt a jeskai control shitter?

>>52483880

I would cut Searing Blaze altogether and replace them with something else. You aren't running enough fetches to have reliable ways to trigger the landfall condition, if you look at Burn they're running 10-12 fetches to have reliable triggers for it.

Up the mana leak count to 3, play the rest as Boomerang. You have a pretty solid mechanics of a tempo deck and bouncing their only land with Boomerang when you're turn 2 on the play is backbreaking in some matchups. Also if you're going to run Goblin Dark Dwellers, you gotta run Boom//Bust. Young Pyromancer could also be considered as a card choice.

Unsubstantiate in the sideboard for the decks that play copies of Cavern of Souls.

>>52484172

Is there a stream going on?

>>52475851
Horizon Canopy is $30, and these are better because they don't take up your landdrop to cycle, meaning if you cycle into a land you DO need you can play it.

>>52484201
Oh I didn't know Canopy came in tapped and costed 2 to cycle

>>52484201

>Horizon Canopy is $30

What? They're still $60+ USD

>>52484194
gp san antonio

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>>52483880
>>52484180

It really goes faster now. Maybe I shouldn't need the extra 3 fetches but they help thinning the deck a little bit

>>52484679
>boomerang
>rift bolt
just stop

>>52484679

You shouldn't really care about deck thinning anyway, if you really want to thin your deck out a bit you can play Thought Scour and you have Snapcaster to flashback whatever gets put in the graveyard, mind you I wouldn't play Thought Scour unless you had some sort of Delve payoff. The average cmc of your deck is like 1.5/2 cmc. Also i'd play Thing in the Ice over Stormchaser Mage because you will need TiTi for the aggro matchups that go wide. I would definitely consider putting Young Pyromancer somewhere in your deck.

Different anon than Izzet memester over there. But why doesn't dark dwellers see play? Its such a good curve topper for midrange

>>52483372
>>52484679

imo you should choose between prowess and countermagic. in a deck with so many counters you'll often be swinging or just 1 or 2 damage because you have to hold up mana to interact on their turn. if you want to run a lot of counters, play pyro instead of swiftspear desu.

>>52484947

It does or did see play. Patrick Chapin ran it in a Grixis Control shell when Ancestral Vision was unbanned alongside Boom//Bust to cast the Bust side for free.

>>52484947
>5 mana 4/4

That's why

>>52484679
I've got some feedback if you want, I played UR delver a lot last summer but that was before death's shadow was really a deck and grixis control wasn't really popular. I think you're favored against death's shadow but grixis seems like a nightmare matchup.

I really recommend young pyro over stormchaser mage, going wide gives you some game against decks with spot removal and stormchaser is atrocious with counterspells.

Boomerang is a meme, the games where you curve delver into boomerang your land never happen. Go up to 4 vapor snag though, it's one of the best cards in the deck and the reason to play UR over grixis.

Cut rift bolt, you want your burn spells when you draw them. I ran a couple of burst lightnings and an electrolyze.

I trimmed down to 2 snapcasters, it's really not that good unless it's flashing back lightning bolt. You're also basically always low on mana since you only have 18 lands and 4 cantrips.

Spell snare and spell pierce are better than mana leak for the same reason. You want your interaction to be 1 mana. The only reason you run remand is because the fact that is cycles is huge. I would play 1 mana leak at most.

Up to 8 fetch lands is fine. You really want your first two lands to be duals. Only 1 basic mountain though. If you ever have more than one basic mountain in play you won't be able to cast your spells.

Play 2-3 blood moon in the board. It gets you free wins. If you wanna get cute you can play a desolate lighthouse, a batterskull, and a keranos also. Ancestral vision also might be good but I haven't tried it.

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>tfw you accidentally blew your whole pay check on magic cards

oops

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>>52485271

"accidentally"

>>52485302
i swear the didn't realize the cart was $900 until i hit confirm

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>>52485027

A+ advice here

Keranos seems really solid, I'll try fevered visions too

>>52485349
What'd you buy senpai?

I blew 1600 on Abzan and I don't regret it one bit

>>52485027

>Boomerang is a meme

It's not, while being able to bounce a land on the play is great that's not the only reason to run it but there are times when you want to push back that Eldrazi Temple. Right now being able to answer any resolved permanent you can't get rid of(especially Chalice set to 1 in first game when on the draw etc.) While i'm not advocating that Vapor Snag be 100% replaced by Boomerang, Boomerang is actually a good card to run a few copies of maindeck right now and can be emergency short removal for things you can't bolt or if you don't have Vapor Snap. Times have changed.

>>52485423
20 zen fetches and the entirety of that japanese geneis wave deck that wins with spawnsire of ulamog

>Hornet Queen in Modern

What the hell am I watching?

>>52485575
Wat

Ok now I'm curious.

Stream link?

>>52485575
I can't believe amulet is still a thing

>>52485597
twitch/magic

anyone ever piloted skred?

-any color splash? considering blue
-boros reckoner or eternal scourge/pnk list?
-the fuck do you do againts combo

oddly enough its an easy matchup vs tron, eldrazi and dsj

>>52485597

https://www.twitch dot tv/magic

Bant Eldrazi vs Amulet Titan.
Shuhei Nakamura vs Sam Black

Sam Black put out a Hornet Queen.

>>52460877
ATTACK THE MOON!

>>52485622
>color splash
>in skred
lmao

>>52485575
Meta counters

>>52485608

I can, I kept telling people not to sell out because the deck is still good, it just plays a tad slightly fairer by not winning turn 2 or turn 3 and consistently has a winning spot on turn 4 or turn 5. My stupid friend sold his Amulet Bloom deck and he never played a single game with it after building.

>>52485639
some people splash white for nahiri or other planeswalkers, im only considering splashing a color that gives me enchantment removal or something to deal with combo -- this is the absolute worst matchup for the deck

BONFIRE

BONFIRE WHAT

>>52485475

I'll sideboard it, I don't think it's a meme but seems very matchup-dependent

bouncing lands enchanted with utopia sprawl is always fun

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>>52482950
>he's still playing Emrakul and not Ballista

Is he playing it at the gp?
Also I wanna see how close his list is to this. Trying out an Etherium Sculptor too but probably wouldnt for serious.

>>52485820

You gotta remember this is Unified Modern, so the Walking Ballista's could be used by one of his teammates.

>>52485739
>>52485747

Literally what did they mean by this

>>52485958
>he's not watching live children's card game tournaments

>>52485958

https://clips dot twitch dot tv/ColdChillyHamOMGScoots

Welcome back to Scars Innistrad Standard.

>>52485622
>anyone ever piloted skred?
Yeah. Honestly, fuck that deck.

I'd rather play Skred Swans.

>>52486013
This is why I run one Thunderous Wrath in my deck.

Shit so cash when I get to deal 5 to face for just R.

>Affinity on 40 life against Ad Nauseam player
>Lab Maniac was exiled by Spoils of the Vault

And that is why I still play Conflagrate in Ad Nauseam from the SB and play a more classic list outside of Spoils.

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>>52485479
>Genesis wave deck that wins with spawnsire of ulamog
Please go on

>>52486331

Not the same guy but it sounds like an Eternal Command deck with some infinite mana engine involved.

>>52486331

He's probably talking about this

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/instant-deck-tech-harvest-wave-modern

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>>52477908
>1 mana 1/1 with haste and infect
>1 mana 0/1 with prowess and infect
>prowess and infect

>>52478044
mark fucking loves infect, he's the reason it got turned into a real mechanic

>>52486182
>Honestly, fuck that deck
elabor8

>>52486715
It was probably too hard for him to pilot

>>52486907

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>>52486907


new thread

>>52482923
Shit dude, you're pretty out of the loop.
Aetherflux Reservoir is far and away better.
SS is still just a shitty casual deck, and it's not hard to sideboard responses in, but if we're talking about it, at least talk about it right.