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What's your favourite prank a game company has ever pulled

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What's your favourite prank a game company has ever pulled on it's customers?
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what game is this?
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>>52418616
Looks like Yugi-o or Pokemon.
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>>52418616
Magic, looks like a mock up joke of the next set.
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>>52418637
You can tell it's Yu-gi-oh! from its Egyptian themes.
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>>52418662
They're real
They are the new lottery cards in We Wuz Kangs
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They would look fine if the art wasn't the normal low-contrast CGI shit they've been doing recently. If they looked like Ancient Mew they'd be dope
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>>52418520

are you fucking kidding me...
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They look absolute dogshit
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I would've preferred if they straight up just made it unreadable
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>>52418520
MTG subreddit is in full damage control. It's hilarious.
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These would be infinitely better if they just took away the nonsense hieroglyphs that are next to the name and types.
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>>52418801

Even they hate these
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>>52418984
>>52418965
Art
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>>52419009
lol@how all this detail is lost on the card.
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>>52419009
God fucking damn it that art is actually decent but fuck if I'm ever gonna want the card its attached to. That text is horrendous and the border is not doing anything any favors.
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Fucking ass. All of them. I ain't running no moon runes shit in my deck. God I had such hope.
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>>52418520
>>52418965
Look on the bright side everyone. We found where WotC was hiding all the answer cards!
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>>52419009

why arn't they masterpieces even full art, was the shitty egyptian boarder that important.
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>>52419048
Sun.
Sun runes.
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This is not okay.
I liked the Inventions and even the Expeditions a bit but this is too much and it looks illegible and shitty.
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>>52419118
Much better thanks.
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>>52418984
You know if they still had the black border I would be okay with these ugly abortions, but without them they just look bad.
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>>52418965
>2 minutes in paint
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>>52419285
The mana symbols are fine but it would look so much better without the random hieroglyphs.
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>>52419005
Some current thread titles

>Is it just me, or are they starting to actually look great!?
>I like the invocation border.
>A compliment to the border.
>[PSA] Remember that the Invocations will look alot better in person than an image
>Let's be real - the only problem with the Masterpieces is the font of the name/typeline.

Comments are full on damage control. Not suprising seeing as mtg is a shill sub by Wizards.
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I like them.
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>>52418965
being able to read the text would be nice
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>>52419328
Go home, Mark!

>>52419312
>Let's be real - the only problem with the Masterpieces is the font of the name/typeline

Which is literally one of the most important things on a card.
Wizards fucked up a lot on these masterpieces.
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I guess I'm glad they're using these masterpiece frames to experiment. Even if so far they've all looked like hot garbage.

Maybe they'll make a good one eventually.
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>>52419339
Add colored mana symbols like >>52419285 and you are golden
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>>52419285
>>52419302
Wait I think I found the reason for all the Sun Runes. They tried to center justify the name and types but didn't want blankspace in those fields.
Can we get an edit with them center justified on the card?
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https://twitter.com/TrickMTG/status/846850855626145792

Well, they look better with the foiling. The font is still horrendously annoying, though.
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>>52419384
It actually looks decent'ish like that.

But yeah, that horrible font.
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Here, have a normie meme.
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I find these cards neat - just this terrible font
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>>52419504
I think there have been some hieroglyphic-styled yugioh promos too
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>>52419384
The real one actually looks nice. I hope i get one on prerelease.
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The art is pretty good on many of these but the colors are faded and also that fucking card frame and font
>>52419504
Didn't they give out that Mew card at the screening of the first Pokemon movie? I think I had one.
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>>52419540
The gods.
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>>52418520
>these will be in the godawful masterpiece foiling
>their barely legible names
>Seriously, the only way I know what card it is, is by the text
>no color difference in the mana cost
>bright shiny gold clashes with the normal black borders you'll use
>the borders are fucking ugly in general
>the unnecessary characters in the name and title field
>the centered text that forces the eyes to constantly readjust
>Laven Mindcensori
>Lcreature- BirdWizarbi
>that godawful p/t box that's vertical for no legitimately good reason, when MTG cards are pretty much left to right, so when you finish reading what a creature does, you just look down, and it keeps the left to right flow


These are legitimate eyesores, and people will hate these pieces of shit. I sincerely hope that whoever designed these abominations is fired and forced to take up another occupation, because they have CLEARLY failed. And this is coming from a guy that LIKES the M-15+ card format.
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>>52419619
I like everything but the random hieroglyphics on the name.
>>52419572
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>>52419384
The foiling is cool but the card still looks awful.
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I have bad eyesight and can't read any of this
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>>52419699
You don't need to. You're not likely to get one anyway. :^)
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>>52419699
You might not be able to read them, but others can and you need to be considerate of others ;^)
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>>52419353
whatever you want boss
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>>52419104
>Hasbro Exec: MaRo, we need creatures and walkers to start dying or our attendance numbers will keep dwindling.
>MaRo: I've got it boss!
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>>52419312
How much do you think Hasbro pays these shits?
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>>52419339
This is perfect.
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>>52418520
>No rebecca guay art
It's shit
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I am hype. Fuck reddit and their stupid hivemind.

Maybe I'll be able to get them for cheap if the backlash sticks, but that means WOTC won't do anything this different ever again and that sucks.
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HOLY SHIT. FORCE OF WILL.
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>>52419948
Seems too real.
MaRo is such a sweet boy :3
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>>52420046
Please stop perpetuating the myth that everyone has to drink WotC's diarrhea strait from the anus if they ever want to see nice things in the future. They fucked up here.
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>>52420046
Yeah, I worry those spineless marketing execs will see one failure and pull the plug on this line, I like that they bothered to experiment, and am totally okay that they failed. It's because they experimented that I want to see more of this line alive.

Too bad WotC:aHS will cut it as soon as anything goes wrong because they have the worst business practices ever.
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FORCE OF WILLI
WILLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>52420108
Fuck you. If you guys had your way, we'd still have art and borders like this.

Making the special unique lottery card special and unique is a good thing.
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>>52420108
We're never going back to Kamigawa and we're never getting fancy borders again
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>>52420150
>that shit instead of terese nielsen negrette beauty
>in the plane of WE WUZ KANGZ N SHEIT
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>>52420165
But I like those borders.
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>>52420046
>>52420165
Fucking this. Haters proceed to hate though - remember that Masterpiece series will be with us forever and over the years there'll be masterpiece sets you love and others you hate.

It's a good that these are a hit with some people and a total bomb with others.
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>>52420165
What does Hasbro pay you to astroturf this site? You can't seriously think those look good, the text is fucking illegible.
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>>52418520
Those fucktards have to change their tournament rules because under the current rules, invocations aren't legal:

https://www.wizards.com/dci/downloads/MTG_MTR_1Jul09_EN.pdf

> 3.3 Authorized Card
> Players may use any cards from special sets, supplements, and promotional printings that, unaltered, meet the following conditions:
> The card has black or white borders
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why can't we just get nice full-art prints with readable text
wizards
why
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>>52420267
I don't give a shit about text when we have cards with literally no rules text on them.

Everyone I play MTG with knows every single one of these cards backwards and forwards and if they don't, you tell them its name and that's all they need.
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>>52420271
>>52420268
Ok, that's rather impressive
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>>52420100
I want Rosewater to go and stay go.
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>>52420268
But Kaladesh Inventions had bronze borders. :^)
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>>52418984
MISORCERY
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>>52420268
>the people who make the rules are going to have to change the rules

doesn't seem like an issue
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>>52420150
>mind twist
they certainly want newbies to hate playing draft
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>>52420268
But...these don't have borders.
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>>52420325
Still black-bordered
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>>52420150
I like the illustration for ~IMINDTWISTI--.
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>>52420345
It's not worse than Sol Ring.
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These truly look horrible, I hope I don't pull one.
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>>52420411
> I hope I don't pull one.
Oh, you don't have to worry about that. :^)
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>>52419932
I like it.
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>>52420411
I hope I pull Force of Will.
So I can sell it.
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>>52420165
>If you guys had your way, we'd still have art and borders like this.

And?
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>>52420453
I don't think demand will be high on that one. It looks like absolute shit.

If you want pimp, go for EMA FoWs.
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>>52420387
you at least get to play the game with that one
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>tfw 5 minutes in photoshop and other thread here on 4chan an anon makes an infinitely better version than the official one
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>>52420266
>remember that Masterpiece series will be with us forever

Not if the third time they tried (second time, really, since expeditions were originally a one-off thing) it's massively unpopular.

WOTC drops unpopular things incredibly quickly unless they've been doing it for a really long time and know it's just a fluke. Look at the standard rotation for a recent example.
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>>52420315
Not a "mtg is for casuals only GET OUT ELITISTS RRRREEEEE" type person, but it's not right to expect everyone who plays the game to know what "Worship" does forwards and backwards or, worse, what all the modes for Cryptic Command are. There has to come a point where function has to beat form, and these have passed it. Text is shit
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>>52420519
It should match the white of the borders. It's a bit too stark how it is now.
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>>52420244
we wuz cardboard n shiet
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normally i'm hesitant to hop on the "Wizards is fucktarded" train, but holy shit
WHY ARE THEY ALL SO UGLY WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
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>>52420266
>>52420521
Masterpieces as a whole have been well recieved by the community.
But, everywhere I look, people HATE this framing.
Hopefully WotC will understand that varying the formatting and font a tiny bit (the prior 2 masterpiece series, the future sight cards) is alright, but this is jumping the shark so high you go over the moon.
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>>52418520
>DLAVEN MINCENSOR!
>KREATURE-BIRDWIZARD!
>>52418965
>?NOT(whale)!WRATH OF GOD!
>TNO?SMISORCERYITM
>>52420150
>MINDTWIST!
>NOTLM?ORISORCERYITO

>NOT!FORCE OF WILL!
>VOT?LMIINSTANTI
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>>52420519
Yes, killing the flavor and removing the egypt from the egypt themed masterpiece. Ingenious.
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>>52420519
Of all fixes here, that's the worst.
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>>52420268
There is small black bars in the sideways of the card. They could say it is enough to consider it black border.
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>>52420519
Looks terrible.

>>52420567
I wonder why they thought it was okay to fuck up the names and the typelines so badly.
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>>52420268
Actually yes these cards are not legal IF you don't play with sleeves, which everyone does nowadays.
I actually like it and hope they abolish the borders eventually (or at least reduce it) on all cards.
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>>52420598
Because that's why they made the card? Removing hieroglyphs means it could be from anywhere.
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expeditions still best masterpieces
>Wizards' faces when they see all the hate for the new masterpieces
>their face when they realize they have to release more in HoD and can't change them
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>>52420496
It's still a foil FoW. Someone's going to want it, and it'll likely still be the most valuable Invocation (followed by Cryptic I'm guessing, of the ones shown so far)
Consecrated'll definitely be high as well because EDH.
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>>52420587
That's like saying that you're a nigger because you have a cancerous melanoma.
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>>52420631
So make the frame out of heiroglyphs then.
Make them like how Kaladesh's masterpieces were, but instead of the weaving metal make it flowing heiroglyphs around the edge to separate the fields.
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>>52420678
You'd still complain anyway, what's the point?
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>>52420633
> sales were slightly DOWN last year
> Standard continous to suck dicks
> they fucked up their new cash cow beyond recognition

Looks like Cocks has to fire more people.
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>>52420678
Yes, every masterpiece needs to be like Kaladesh and they should never try to make anything look different because the cards you only see once in a blue moon should be more or less indistinguishable from a normal card.

Whatever. You can't argue taste I guess, but I think you guys are overemphasizing the importance of text on MTG cards. You read the text of a card once.
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>>52420633
>their face when they realize they have to release more in HoD and can't change them

I feel really bad for Wizards. Knowing they fucked up and not being able to stop the waves of anger coming for them.
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>>52420796
I actually liked the Kaladesh masterpieces, and the Zendikar ones.
These Amonkhet ones however, they're really bad.
Making the names and type lines unreadable and cluttered, centering the text boxes for literally no reason, making the mana costs monochrome, making the power/toughness vertical, having absolutely 0 cohesive theme, the frame shrinking the art box by a ton, incredibly strongly plane-specific spells (Maelstrom Pulse so far) getting put here (diminishing the plane-specific flavor)
It all adds up to a giant shitshow. And people are nearly all in agreement that these are bad.
Not just here on 4chan, but everywhere I look there are people calling these terrible eyesores.
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>>52420649
Yeah. Whales don't have taste. As long as it is rare and pricey they will play those cards. Hell, I've even seen people playing expeditions unironically.
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>>52418520
I think if they kept the original art, or referenced the new art heavily from the original, this could have worked. But having the garbage characters with the unrecognizable art on permanents is just goofy.
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>>52420496
Even if it was a good chunk cheaper than EMA FOIL it'd still get you a normal EMA Force and a couple other rares.
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>>52420852
Oh yeah, totally 0 cohesive theme. Not like it is clearly ancient temples covered in hieroglyphs in every capacity.
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>>52420510
I'd rather scoop on the spot after a late game Mind Twist than have to deal with turn 3 Cataclysmic Gearhulk, again.
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>>52420887
Cohesive theme as in Zendikar masterpieces were all lands, Kaladesh were all artifacts.
Pretty sure somewhere Wizards even said, when they first announced that there'd be masterpieces every block, that they'd be the same card type or theme or something. And that they'd not use any cards with a strong tie to a single plane (hello Alara-only Maelstrom Pulse)
These are all over the place.
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I couldn't believe how bad they looked when I first saw it, but after looking at the gif of the physical card, I think it looks pretty sweet.

The font on the name and type is still fucking horrible and I wish it was changed. The font on the actual textbox is great, why didn't they use that on the rest?
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>>52420907
Yeah Kaladesh Sol Ring is one of the most breaking in limited. They can have any janky creatures but as the Eldrazi modern have showed us, any shitty creatures 2 turns early is OP.
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>>52420806
Please let it be MaRo.
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>>52420852
>>52420887
I get the theme, it's "solid control pieces that Wizards will outright refuse to ever stick into any Standard set ever again". It's either that or "Biggest Mistakes Playlist" though they're often similar.

It's no coincidence that they gave us a set of our favorite control cards in the shittiest frames possible.
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>>52420934
They in fact said the exact opposite. As for the word Maelstrom, I think that's less of a stretch than the Scarecrow in a set full of constructs.
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>>52420939
Because that would defeat the entire fucking point of them being Egyptian.
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>>52420852
>These Amonkhet ones however, they're really bad.
Maybe they did it on purpose so they can take this sentence out of contect.
>"Oh, everyone hates removal and counterspells, we better not print any of that anymore", says MaRo while jerking off under his desk.
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>>52420975
Scarecrows can at least be explained away as being needed in the outer lands of Kaladesh, not in the city, where there are farms and shit making food.
The Maelstrom on the other hand, is a strictly Alara event, that only happened from the plane being split into the Shards.
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>>52420978
No? The borders and coloring looks plenty egyptian to me
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These are an abomination.

>>52419009
What a fucking waste of good art. Holy shit.
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>>52420997
You do know maelstrom is an english word and not a name invented by mtg?
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>>52420975
>>52420997
A maelstrom is a whirlpool. It's been a word for more than 100 years at least.
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If I was an artist commissioned for art, I'd be very angry with Wizards and ashamed for my art being used on these ugly pieces of shit.
All of the arts are great, but they're shrunk by the overly-intrusive frame, along with the rest of the cards looking like ass.
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>>52420267
Probably nothing. Free tween interns.
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>>52421036
>>52421037
Shh. You might hurt him.
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>>52421036
>>52421037
You do know that The Maelstrom is an established event of a singular plane of the multiverse, like The Great Aurora on Lorwynn, right?
As in, they're proper names of magical planar phenomena, and not just using the words as they mean in english when uncapitalized.
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>>52421046
On the upside, most the art is terrible CG looking garbage.
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>>52421066
I already did: >>52421072
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>>52420997

Read a book, nigger.
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>>52421072
You do know the card name is Maelstrom Pulse, not THE Maelstrom Pulse or The Maelstrom That Happened in Alara Pulse?
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>>52421088
>I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>52421072
Ya but there's capitalization in card names any way so proper nouns can be repurposed out context if the comprising words are generic enough.

Case in point, Maelstrom Pulse.
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>>52420938
Thank you anon
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>>52421072

You're not even good at autism.
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>>52420997
Except it is also an english word that can mean anything you fucking want it to mean? Gloomwidow is a specific species of spider from the Lorwyn plane that has poison as juveniles and loses it when it grows up. Now since it has been reprinted, it is just a spider.

Mox Opal is legendary from Mirrodin. Somehow, now there's a second one on Kaladesh that looks nothing like it.

They have done reprints before which changed a specific reference to a lore thing to a general word.
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>>52420963
Sadly, that crazy jew-manlet who is permanently high on cocaine has too many fans to be fired that easily.

And lots of the current fuck-ups are other people's fault (development, graphic design).
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>>52421147
Wasn't it implied some of the Inventions actually come from other planes?
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THE ORNERY THOPTER IS IN EVERY PLAAAAAAANNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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>>52421180
Nope! Plus, even with that implicaton, they look completely different.
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>>52420938
Way better. The centered text balances the unneeded 3D. Reminds me of that centered counterspell
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>>52421197
>implying a planeswalking artificer wouldn't change the appearance of something brought from somewhere else

Even Jace got a new coat to fit in with Innistrad. Planeswalkers have to pick up on planes' styles to not being called out.
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>>52419285
Give it a normal fucking black border too.
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>>52421255
Done.
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>>52421307
Looks a bit boring. Give it some cool pillar borders!
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>>52418520

The card art looks nicefor most of them, and the cards themselves are great "reprints", but the frames and lettering are fucking horrid.
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>>52421198
So things to recommend to your neighborhood alterer
>cover up the nonesense characters
>extend the art to cover up the 3D effect with the pillars
anything else?
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>>52421337
Altering foil cards is a thing that rarely looks acceptable.
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>>52418520
Fuck this ugly crap.
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>>52419932
See now that looks pretty fucking snazzy
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>>52421352
Just remove the foil layer, alter, then re-place the foil on top.
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>Force of Willi
>Verdicate
Fuck I wish I could forgive this ugly fucking text
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>>52421352
forgot they were foil, just completely irredeemable
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>>52421377
Sad this is the only printing you can get of those cards.
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>>52419932
Now extent the art to where it would normally be to remove the forced 3d and subsequently shrunken art space.
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>>52420150

love the mind twist art, but the boarder just painfully kills it.
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I bet every single one of you whining faggots didn't even play before Mirrodin.
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>>52421337
>ask if the neckbeard have money to pay for the alters
>ask the neckbeard to calm down and stop spouting saliva everywhere
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>>52421388
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>>52421401

I've been playing since Revised and I think these are the ugliest cards they've ever made.
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>>52421401
I started with Portal, left, came back a little around mirrodin, gave my cards away, and then came back during RtR block. These are fucking ugly.
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>8th edition: we changed the iconic layout so retards could read our cards
>Amonkhet: if retards could read these cards they might miss old Magic, can't allow that
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>>52421405
>>52421421
I don't have any real problems with the rest of the frame.
The arts on these masterpieces are really nice, and the fact that they're shrunken just for a stupid forced-3d effect is terrible.
So that's why I was saying >>52419932 but with no forced-3d would be fine.
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>>52418520
Here's that same card with a small black border. Actually makes a ton of difference. Without that border, these shitstains just look like cards from some other game desu.

The name, type and casting cost are still barely even fucking readable.
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So cat god casts Vindicate and croc god casts Pulse.
Can we assume the gods are enemy-colored?
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>>52421401
Didn't see this when I posted, I started at the precise moment they switched to the new layout. This is hands down the most confusing to read design they've shown us, including the test ones that one guy keeps posting because he spent a ton of money on them.
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>>52421476
That actually looks a lot better. The creature line and name line could use some work, but it actually looks like a fucking Magic card now.
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>>52421477
We had enemy colored Gods already.
These will either be mono-color (if they're not enchantment creatures) or wedge (if they are)
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>>52421477
Eh, my bet is on shard gods.
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>>52421470
>shrunken
The card have no borders. Go look at a magic card and see how much space the borders took.
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Dark Ritual
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As expected: Pot of Greed
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>>52421401
Been playing since '95, faggot. These are trash and nothing will change that.
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>>52421518
They're definitely mono-color. Notice how all the multicolor Invocations have two gods casting them.
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>>52421401
I played and then I got angry when 8th edition came out and when they fucked up discolored mana symbols and white artifact colored cards in Mirrodin.
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>>52421551

Fucking barf. It looks like a fireplace.
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>>52421387
EM Vindicate is horrible solely because of the flavor text. Not a fan of the old border tie fighter one. I just want one good one for commander.
I want a Masterpiece series that actually gets me excited. Kaladesh had the opposite problem; I hated most arts, loved the borders. BFZ was alright but good lands are expensive enough before you even start looking at premium versions.
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>>52421562
Huh, didn't notice that til now.
Also didn't notice how similar Maelstrom Pulse and Vindicate's arts are. (Gods to the left, 2 side-by-side; target to the bottom right; spells are a weave of the two Gods' colors)
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>>52421551
Dat art, tho. Probably the best Dark Ritual arts aside from Masques.
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>>52421551
Oh look, we get to cast OP mythic creatures two turns in advance in Limited.
Again!
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>>52421401
HUURRR
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>they all come without flavor text

Fuck. Flavor text was the best thing about Kaladesh Inventions.
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>>52421608
Worship in limited will be fun
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>>52421608
Only if you're in black, though.
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>>52421608
Only niggers gets to do it now.
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>>52421587
>>52421562
So there will probably be WR, UR and UG spells? Predictions?
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>>52421669
Probably things with "destroy/exile target permanent" if the first two are anything to go by.
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>>52421551
Is it possible to get multiple double secret rares in a pre-release box? I want to know the odds of someone getting absolutely assblasted over being blown out by Dark Rit + Mind Twist in sealed.
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Is there a theme to this or is it just random shit?
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>>52421669
Since it's been made clear that they don't care about place names or flavor connections (Mox Opal, Maelstrom Pulse, Painter's Servant, et al), I predict Boros Charm, Electrolyze, and Voidslime. None would make sense, but they're all *good cards*, which seems to be the theme of this round of masterpieces.
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>>52421669
There's actually not enough space in the collector numbers for 3 more.
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>>52421717
Possible but almost improbable.

>tfw getting Grindstone in Sealed but no Painter's Servant
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>>52421669
Nope, the blue dude already cast something on his own. Force of Will.
That leaves the red god.
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>>52421717
Yeah, someone got two inventions at my prerelease.
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>>52421734
Incomplete cycle to be completed next set? They did it with the Swords.
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>>52420938

well done, you fixed it
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>>52421734
Maybe the other 3 will be in Hour of Devastation then?
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>>52421743
inb4 lightning bolt
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>>52421669
Lightning Helix, Prophetic Bolt, Temporal Spring?
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>>52421724
Mox Opal was "on loan from a collector" just when Tezzeret happened to be in town. Motherfucker stole it from Mirrodin and brought it with him.

I don't see what's supposed to be wrong with Painter's Servant, other than it being a scarecrow. As for Maelstrom Pulse, it's already been mentioned that a maelstrom is a real thing.
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>>52421780
That is very probable.
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>>52421717
I had to deal with a faggot who got Mana Crypt and Sad Robot.
He still managed to lose.
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>>52421764
>>52421754
Yeah, I think that will happen.

>>52421669
WR is definitely Lightning Helix, I can't think of anything more iconic
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>>52421551
>IBARKRITUALIT

What did they mean by that?
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Will one of the not-egyptian gods be a frog?
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>>52421794
I think the sad thing is that I don't know if I'd really be pissed or not if it happened.
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>>52421810
dumb frogposter
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>>52421780
>>52421794
There's already Chain Lightning.
Also there's counterspell already too. I would think they want to put one iconic common on each masterpiece set instead of all in one. I might be wrong though.
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>>52421810
No, but we do have Kek.
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>>52421824
Were you pissed about Ornithopter?
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>>52421824
Remember: There are not enough valuable cards for 100+ masterpieces every year. Some masterpieces are just going to be cool cards with special treatment.
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>>52421810
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-news/amonkhet-art/
We have arts of all 5, so probably no. They're a catgirl, birb, Steve Irwin, doge, and snek.
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>>52421615
>people trying to understand the bronken as fuck artifacts that won fairs and are leagues above the rest
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>>52421868
WEW LAD
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>>52421844
That's Sobek, though.
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>>52421868
>ILOYALRETAINERSIT

What did they mean by that?
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>>52421844
Dumb petsuchos.
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>>52421868
>WHAT THE FUCK? THESE ARE THE LOYAL RETAINERS FROM PORTAL. HOW CAN THEY BE IN THIS SET? RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>52421588
Will always be a fan of the original Dark Ritual art by Sandra Everingham
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>>52421927
I bet you are the kind of faggot whose favorite Hymn is Wolves.
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End Times
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>>52421898
I seriously hope that the hieroglypic parts look better in paper than in these spoilers. Because fuck this shit is unreadable.
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>>52421724
>Boros Charm

Gideon worked with the Boros back on Ravnica, didn't he? He could have learned how to cast it or have one on him.
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>>52421421
That's a bit too much border, and you wouldn't be able to read the card at all at actual cardsize.
It's not even centered in that hugeass border, it's...what, sidways in the upper right corner? That doesn't even make any sense. The card itself is where mana costs go?
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>>52421976
>the 1 card per 3 box lotto cards of the set are ugly
>magic is dead
okay
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KEK
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>>52421969
Jesus Christ no, the FTV20 art is much better.
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>>52421995
I want a card that draws cards and is an homage to Pot of Greed.
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>>52421898
It's an anagram for "A Saintlier Lye Riot". Innistrad confirmed for soapy anarchy???
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>>52421969
I bet youre the kind of faggot that calls people faggots about art on a kids card game
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>>52422017
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>>52422070
Would fit the Number Crunch! :^)
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>>52420528
Gatherer exists for a reason. The problem is with new players having no idea of the resources they can take advantage of. There's no "new player guide" that isn't those insipid Planeswalker intro pack guides.
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>>52420150
Colors other than white and black look like garbage on these frames.
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>>52422086
Maybe Death's Shadow and Damnation? Flame Rift?
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>>52421915
Because they're a $22 uncommon. Masterpieces are largely for older formats.

http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/commanders-arsenal/loyal-retainers
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Now they're just fucking with us.
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>>52422202
I had to read what the card did to even begin to find the name of the fucking card. Im fucking mad.
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>>52422202
>Divination still fits between Daze and Force of Will

#Believe
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>>52422197
Imperial Seal when?
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>>52422202
The art is pretty but the name is unreadable as fuck. I hope the person who did this gets fired, including the persons who approved this.
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>>52422202
>what the fuck does thi- ...Baze?
>OH.

Well that's pretty cool. I would actually like to see more like this.
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>>52422202
Yare yare....
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>>52421551
There is little dark and nothing ritual about this.
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>WOTC fell for the Ancient Egypt is made of utterly fucking DRAB SANDSTONE meme.

Pic related is a reconstruction of the Temple of Karnak. See how much fucking color is splayed all over the goddamned thing? Ancient Egyptians painted their building into a goddamn riot of colors, probably precisely BECAUSE sandstone is so fucking drab by itself. But these cards all look like drab sandstone inscriptions.

Fucking hell WOTC, the coloration of these cards would go a LONG fucking way to making them less fucking ugly.
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>>52422279
But then it would look silly. Everyone knows ancient Egypt was drab and brown. Just look at the pyramids or watch a movie!
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>>52422202
>OTIADAZENIT
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>>52422279
Kamigawa taught them to go with public belief/expectation.
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ready and willing to sell my Counterspell Invocation for the common one from EMA
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>>52422369
REEEEEEEEEE
THE GREAT PYRAMIDS WERE DRAPED IN WHITE STONE (LIMESTONE AS I RECALL), THAT WOULD REFLECT THE SUN'S GLORY

FUCKING WIZARDS
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>>52422427
>live in old Egypt
>directly across of pyramids
>sun rises
>you go blind because some fuck decided having them reflective would be good design
>fucking old Egypt
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>>52422279
Remember the last time they followed real world lore faithfully?
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>>52422427
Didn't they have golden capstones as well?
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>>52422469
God the art on this is so fucking lazy
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>>52422420
>>52422369
But these look fucking hideous. At least if they colorized the lettering and differentiate it from the random hieroglyphs and shit they did, you could read the fucking things.

>>52422427
This man is right. Shit the limestone was even smooth. AND they were capped with fucking gold bricks.
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>>52422469
Fuckign casuals made sure we're never going back to Kamigawa.
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>>52422420
>>52422469
This

People expected anime ninjas, not Samurai Ghostbusters hunting down weird Eldritch abomination shit.
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>>52422369
Just like india is all technologically advanced
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>>52422388
TIM°ﮯNITIBAZEINIT
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>>52422279
Movies>Reality.
Of course, a fucking kike is the lead designer.
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>>52422515
There was damn near nothing Indian about Kaladesh
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>>52422469
ye ;_;
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the art itself for a good chunk of them is gorgeous but the distracting frame and ambiguous front + symbols is aweful
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>>52422488
Yes. And very little clothes. So those loyal retainers would be struggling in the hot desert heat. And colors everywhere, because the egyptians rightfully thought "Man sand is obnoxious to look at." Hence makeup, little clothing, and am emphasis on aesthetic appeal. .
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>>52422562
Did you miss all the poo names and brown people?
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>>52422562
It clearly lacked
> Land - Designated Shitting Street
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>>52422515
>India is the country with the highest muslim population.
>Set is about brown terrorists destroying whitey's society.
It did go along popular expectations.
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>>52422577
No the white cloth does reflect a LOT of sunlight/heat. Its why modern Arabs wear white cloth.
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>>52420519
>specifying 4chan
reddit detected
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>>52422586
>not Legendary
only 1 per village, anon
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>>52422588
>consulate wasn't shown to be very evil at all
>we are supposed to feel happy when the rebels behead all the leaders in the name of peace
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>>52422588
isn't big Tezz black?
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>All these racists ITT
Can't handle historical accuracy, honkies?
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>>52422613
HUUUURURRURURR DUURRUURRR
thats what you sound like
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>>52418520
Which is power and which is toughness. I assume power is on top, but it makes no indication.
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>>52422631
He's a self hating mutt, that doesn't belong to either side and is working for foreign interests.
Pretty much the jew in middle east.
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>>52422594
And yet Liliana is wearing the heavy-as-fuck dress she put on specifically because Innistrad is unusually cold.
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>>52422202
>DIIRSTARTIMM
What kind of spell is that
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>>52422686
>02/54
it have 2 power and 54 toughness because you're clearly too retarded to know anyway.
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>>52422718
That's also FUCKING BLACK. I guess its because she under the sunshades and shit like a rich woman would be. Nah man the rich in Egypt actually did dress kinda like that. They where covered in white cloth as a status symbol. The poor, especially children often did go naked though.
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>>52422420
Kamigawa was amazing flavor, lore, aesthetics, everything though. People only disliked how standard ended up because of jitte and legends everyone with old legend rule
Wizards are retards
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>>52422663
I mean, it is really strange to specify the website when it's been posted by Anonymous.
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>>52422764
No. It sold like shit to casuals because people wanted anime japan.
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>>52422718
calling it now, flavor text of Liliana hating on the sun this set or the next
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>>52422764
Also it was following Mirrodin and Darksteel and the decks from those sets fucking shat on Kamigawas cards.

It was just in the wrong place time wise. But according to wotc it'll be a mistake forever :^)

A kamigawa set now would be hot as fuck but Maro is too smart for that kek
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>>52422762
She should be wearing her original costume, but that won't happen because tumblr would whine.
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>>52422789
I played back then so i'm gonna have to call bullshit here
Spirits weren't too popular, but everyone thought samurai and ninjas were cool. Long after the block people were still trying to make decks with them.
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>>52422764
MaRo has specified time and time again that Kamigawa as a world and world alone was surveyed and did very poorly with the players both at the time and after many years to gauge interest.

Blame and hate Wizards all you want but in this very specific case the blame rests with the players.
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>>52421927
I like the original too, but I just think Masques and this new masterpiece are better.
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>>52422859
Wizards surveying also gave us 2 years of shit Standard formats
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>>52422859
People keep saying this but i have never seen these surveys.
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>>52422901
And you won't, they aren't public so trust MaRo's and Wizards word like a good goy. I mean they say that the players love the Jace-tice League so it must be true despite the fact that I have yet to find a single fucker that cares or likes the same 5 bland motherfuckers forced into every story and every plane.
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>>52422961
I just don't understand how they don't see that this is the exact same mistake they made with the Weatherlight saga.
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>>52422977
Did the Weatherlight crew fireball Eldrazi Titans like epic cool dudes? Checkmate.
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>>52422859
>>52422961
This suggests the opposite
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/tell-me-what-you-want-2016-03-07
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>>52422992
No, instead they set up Yawgmoth the bomb.
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>>52422992
Basically, yeah.

He even became Jesus in the process.
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I just got to see these.

I hope whoever approved this design gets fired.

Also the artwork for most of them are awful.
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>>52422961
They rely on tumblr and reddit which are places known for kissing ass like it's going out of style. If you've wondered why they've gotten very "Please think of others" and soft over the years, that's why.
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>>52422992
They did shoot Yawgmoth with the giant rainbow laser depicted on Legacy Weapon, right?
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>>52421585
There is a 2007 judge version of Vindicate too.
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>>52422246
Nigga this is WOTC we are talking about, they are going to get a raise if anything.
>>
At least the Weatherlight crew didn't constantly have a legendary version of every single member in standard at all times
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>>52423007
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/157989038288/you-said-kamigawa-was-the-lowest-rated-creative#notes
In what you linked he is talking about the zealous fans that want a return that flock to his blog/twitter but he has time and time again said that they are a very tiny minority of magic players.

Also note that he claims that in addition to the market research they did at the time Wizards contacts independent companies after many years have passed to do their own research and general thoughts on Kamigawa by the playerbase (again solely for the world not the mechanics or the cards) were abysmal.
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>>52423014
Well I would consider a giant death laser that required assembling a bunch of crazy artifacts, powered by a collapsed plane different from 'nissa hold them and ill shoot fire until they die'
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>>52422852
>I played back then
So did I.

>Spirits weren't too popular
You mean half or more of the entire block? Bushido was an incredibly boring mechanic. Nowhere near enough to hold attention. Betrayers got a little bit of love because Ninjas, and Ink-Eyes was a good promo. But that was only one small set and Saviors was DEAD. Nobody cared about it at all and the block overall was a failure.
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>>52423101
Which was a shame, really. I literally had to wait to Apocalypse for Gerrard and when I got it I got a shitty and uninspiring card. I wish they would've gotten multiple versions back in the day, man!
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>>52423007
>Pirate World ranked higher than Fairy Tale World
Haven't ninjas and pirates been played out by now? Granted, MTG could use a few more pirates.

But personally I'd love to see a super-generic high-fantasy world where dragons endlessly kidnap princesses and knights save them, while fairies and goblins cause stupid mischief on the side. Plus tournaments. Lorwyn was close, but it got unnecessarily dark I thought.
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>>52423043
Sure but it's not worth paying a premium like that for it. The flavor text is nice, but the art is just ok.
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>>52423143
I don't think the examples were listed in any particular order.
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>>52423143
>where dragons endlessly kidnap princesses and knights save them,
Emmm sexist much, sweetie?
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>>52423143
I loved the dark side of llorywyn. Its the only grimdark elf stuff I've seen that didn't get tastelessly sex-driven or edgy
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>>52423007
>Meso-American world
Man pre-Columbus civs have some crazy awesome lore but there's always the fear they would ahit all over that
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>>52423224
EXCUSE ME but princesses can be male and knights can be female, there aren't really any historical evidences to back this up but wizards knows better than that
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>>52423224
Knight is a gender neutral term.
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>>52423143
I think Rosewater has said Camelot-world is high on WotC's radar. Can't remember where though.
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>>52423271
As a student of medieval shit I can tell you this: Even back in the days the poets would play around with gender roles and homosexuality and all that.
>>
https://twitter.com/maro254/status/846879106574663680

Looks like Wizards got the message.
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>>52422202
AZE
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>>52422202
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>>52423439
I find the English "hieroglyphs" off-putting. Feels like an extra layer of unnecessary appropriation.
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>>52423439
>Chris Rowlands @npcchris 2h2 hours ago
>@GemOfMagic @maro254 I find the English "hieroglyphs" off-putting. Feels like an extra layer of unnecessary appropriation.
What the fuck did he mean by this?
>>
>the old Egypts buried their kings and treasures beneath giant stone piles
>Amonkhet masterpieces bury their card beneath a giant gimmicky border
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>>52423543
He meant "I AM A HUGE FUCKING FAGGOT PLEASE RAPE MY FACE".
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>>52423253
Wasn't Naya on Alara basically just that?
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The only good thing about these masterpieces is that the Atlazan ones will look much, much better.
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>>52420496
it won't be cheaper than the other FOWs
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>>52423626
So it seems that now they are just randomly printing cards as masterpieces or invocations or what the fuck ever? Or am I missing some Egyptian flavor bullshit...
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>>52423660
Not every masterpiece series can be tied to a card type. I'm going to be very excited about Innistrad Monstrosities, though.
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>>52423626
It'll certainly be difficult to produce anything worse than what we have here.

I'd agree with you, but, you know... >>52420268
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>>52423676
>Innistrad Monstrosities
Muh dick
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>>52423676
But like I mean there could be some sort of theme
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>>52423707
The theme is "Great Cards & Terrible Borders".
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>>52423720
This makes me sad. Excited for future sets cause hopfully Wizards gets it and makes up for this... whatever they are
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>>52423439
I'm liking these more and more. Wizards appealing to the contrarian in me, the clever bastards.
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>>52423707
The theme is "Cool control cards you can't playin Standard"
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>>52419312
>>Let's be real - the only problem with the Masterpieces is the font of the name/typeline.

No, the real problem is MtG is becoming more and more like Yugioh to make up the profits it's losing by pumping out boring Standard season after boring Standard season.

WotC is fucking disgusting.
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>>52423318
Camelot world sounds like Bant.
To be honest though, i love bant AND lorwyn so give me another plane like them, i won't complain.
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>Amonkhet Invocations
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>>52422859
MaRo in particular hates Kamigawa and Lorwyn.
I wonder why, it's not like jews don't love japs and celts.
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>>52424036
You seem to have a reading disability. Maro loves Lorwyn and Shadowmoor since he made those worlds happen in the first place.
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>>52423224
KYS
Y
S
>>
Do you think word of this has gotten to the upper levels yet? Is there an boardroom full of executives with faces running with cold sweat, trying to find their exit strategy? Or is there a team of middle-managers running around trying their best to run damage control, assuring their bosses that EVERYTHING IS FINE.
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>>52423543
That SJWs are inherently unpleasable and we should stop pandering to them.
Marketing have been saying the same since day one but Marvel, Hasbro, /v/ companies, etc. just won't listen.
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>>52424052
The fuck he does, he's stated in blogatog that he regrets there not being humans and being "so true to north-west european mythology" instead of making it a pop culture fantasy world.
He likes the mechanics in LorMoor, not the flavor.
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>>52418668
Yugioh hasn't done anything Egypt in years.
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>>52424062
If WotC works anyhow like the magazine I work for, some fucker paid a marketing team to justify their stupid pitch but he won't be the one getting fired for it, it'll be some graphic design drones that get laid off and the asshole exec will continue raking dosh from actively sabotaging the brand because the actionists don't even perceive reality in a way that'd let them realize the board is full of shit.
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>>52423927
>more and more like yugioh
You mean the blinged out bullshit? That's in every game, my dude. It's not like yugioh unless they bring out a new mechanic that absolutely tears apart everything else in every format and you need to pay out the ass to keep up with the power creep. And then by the time you get used to it, there's a new mechanic that shits on everything else.

And then you get a series of cards from all colors that cast themselves from the graveyard from banishing other members of the series. And they can discard themselves and another card of the same color to get a variety of effects. And when they get banished, they get to search out other members of the series. AND they get access to shit that would essentially be Hexproof and Indestructible.

So that shit gets banned, but there's more and more decks that absolutely shit on the game. Nekroz, PePe and now fucking Zoodiacs, each twisting the game in games that it was never designed to. Imagine if every "Duelist" set was Urza's Block, where even Vintage changed constantly.

Oh yeah, and most of that shit I listed above? Rendered useless because of the new rules change that effectively nerfs 90% of the decks in the game and makes them useless. To introduce and push a NEW summoning method. Trust me, it's no where near yugioh.
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>>52422202
this actually looks really nice, nice art
it will look really good in foil
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>>52424131
He regrets it because now they won't let him return to those planes again, because upper management says 'fuck trying to fix what's broken, either redo what's popular or do something new'
While the man has questionable taste and has made questionable decisions in the past and present, this is one where it's not just his call and where his taste is actually good.
Both blocks were awesome. But Almighty Market Research, which is what his bosses listen to, says DON'T YOU DARE, so the best we're getting is Tamiyo and stuff along those lines. Maybe the occasional supplemental product card.
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https://twitter.com/maro254/status/846879106574663680

>everyone 100% agreeing that the fonts, framing, and art shrinking are shit and saying it straight to MaRo's face
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>>52422588
You're thinking of Indonesia. Indonesia has the highest muslim population.
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>>52422859
>Released an awful fucking set
>Players remember it as an awful fucking set
>But this will not in any way colour their memories of all parts of the set

Now I'm no psychologist, but this seems like a rather terrible conclusion.
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>>52422202
Breathtaking art though
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>>52420165
>Fuck you. If you guys had your way, we'd still have art and borders like this
Those objectively look better than current frames and I literally started on 8th edition.
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>>52425307

>A M R F T G Y Z A U G O U F X T H E Y L O O K U G L Y A N D H A R D T O R E A D P E V A U G J Z A O R W K C

Now this is shitposting. Well done.
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