Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

First for the First Legion

Second for Slaanesh

First for Orks!

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Third for Lord Commander.

>>52392347
>I2

Please stop forcing the meme by doing this slow posting crap

>>52392347
Forgot to charge huh?

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What is your aesthetic-wise favourite model?

>>52392359
Juan Diaz Seekers

>>52392359
dreadnought

Ones with the proper sarcophagus, at least.

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>>52392359
Exorcist, because it is the most 40k model ever made.

Too bad GW is going towards the generic sci fi look now.

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>>52392376
>because it is the most 40k model ever made.
>Not Cawl

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>>52392398
>No mutilated flying zombie babies
I don't see how 40k is it

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>>52392359

>>52392398
Gathering of the Storm is not 40k.

We all know that.

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>>52392423

Ammo Baby is but one small aspect of the setting.

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>>52392359
Everything about them tickles my techno-autism fetish in just the right way. They're also really good on the TT as a plus.

If I was the Emperor, I'd have huge amazonian ladies in golden armour and mute femboys with topknots rather than the other way around.

>>52392519
>Humanity self wanking about thier superior form, not part of the setting

Part of the aesthetic is the glorification of the human form.

Just look at any power armoured human, they go out of thier way to show they are human, sculpted nipples, abs, hips and tits.

We are humans look at us and tremble.

Then Marine show up and fuck up the thing with their non human crap.

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>>52392545
good thing you're not the emperor then

>>52392582

>Implying Femstodes wouldn't be a marked improvement

>>52392545
>the Emperor
>a degenerate
No you wouldn't.

>>52392289

bootybootybootybooty rockit everywhere

>>52392526
>tfw my local store has the Skitarii start collecting set, a set of rangers and a box of those
>tfw so very tempted to buy them and start an army but I already have IG, SM and SoB
although I'm honestly just thinking of selling most of my Smarines

>>52392568
>non human
>literally just evolved humans

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I was wondering: If I put Tyberos in a squad of Tartaros LC, will it still be able to Sweep? Since he's in an indomitus pattern armor.

>>52392359
Be'lakor or the 2nd version of Archaon, on dorghar the horse

>>52392582
Silent armored women who can fuck up sorcery with their mind. And punish the heretic with two handed swords ?
Top Waifu.

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>>52392359
Commisars
>>52392526
these too

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>>52392359
Sleek, simple, radiating power. One of the many things that drew me to BT.

>>52392633
>punish the heretic
>T3

>>52392633
>suffer massive losses cause ''lol don't need a helmet''
>top anything
I love SoS, but DAMN do they need to stop prioritizing aesthetics over performance.

Alright gang, sis picked me up some Mechanicus Standard Grey spray and it works way better than Abaddon Black. Thanks to whomever recommended this to me.

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>>52392359
Kommandos. No other model has as much character as they do. The Kommando Nob has a dent in his boot and a hole in his Slugga's holster.

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>>52392633
Their mere touch is disgusting even for non psyker though.

>>52392373
Seconded.

>>52392651
>Needing anything but S/T3 to do so.

How weak can you be?

>>52392625
Source? Marines are tools at best and heretic mutants at worst. Beside they fall to chaos half the time. Worst creation ever

>>52392670

>Being within 100 yards is disgusting even for non psyker though.

>>52392658
It's even worse because the squad sergeants actually have helmets. Why don't they all wear those?

>>52392683
>they fall to chaos all the time
This meme is dumb.

>>52392633

>Never speaks, indoctrinated for complete loyalty

You don't want a waifu, you want a fucktoy.

>Aura of creepy soullessness that fills everyone nearby with instinctive revulsion

And your either a complete moron, or aware you'll only ever find a girl who shares your trait of making everyone want to throw up.

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>>52392614
I want to see more paints of her model without skirt.

>>52392691

History bears this assertion out.

>>52392668
He said 40k not infinity. :^)

All this pariah talk. neat!

Does anyone have the picture of the Eldar Farseer and his "Humanity, what the FUCK are you doing" Speech about Pariahs?

Also something about how Eldar know what the blanks actually are, what they herald etc

>>52392691
Prove me wrong. Half the legions turn Traitor because daddy went back to his office.

>>52392706

10/10 idea

-53/10 execution

I've seen children model and paint better

>>52392717
Eldar have blanks solitaires.

>>52392717

Anyone got that bit of fluff where a group of Assassins are so socially maladjusted they try to get close to their mark by having the Culexus pretend to be a prostitute because she's the team's only female operative?

>>52392694
If I wanted something to love me over everything I would get a dog.

Flesh fucktoy and a dog is the best thing to have

>>52392748

Just fuck your dog, she's warm flesh and about as attractive a waifu as you'll ever attain.

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What Ork figure is this? Can't find it on the GW site.

>>52392706
Im getting a second model just to do this eventually, maybe ill get a frost sabre and paint it like her pet to take up space on the big base

Should I run two blobs of 20 sisters of battle or two 5-sister squads in Immolators?
>>52392766
Assault on Black Reach warboss.

>>52392736

Pretty sure that's retconned and their soul is now only forfeit, not that they don't have one

>>52392765
But I love my dog. Why would I want to fuck it?

>>52392694
>Implying that people take "waifus" seriously
Anon, either you're a huge dork, either you have no humour.
Or you're SJW.

>>52392766
Its a warboss from assault on black reach, i think you can get it with thise new battle for vedross boxes now, check amazon.

>>52392773
20 it you play super mega hyper casual.
Anything else just run 5 girls inside Immolators.

>>52392694

You think mute people are "fuck toys"? pretty disgusting even for blob autistic neckbeard that you are

>>52392771
without skirt she would be great as a slaanesh model

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>>52392352
>Yvraine has left red prosthetic hand
>Guilliman has left blue prosthetic hand
>Both nicknamed as "daughter" and "son"

>>52392800

>Indoctrinated for absolute loyalty and can't talk back

It's all well and good if you develop a healthy relationship with a disabled person, but let's not pretend what the Emperor sculpted SoS into makes for a healthy relationship.

Speaking of sisters of silence, if you killed a daemon prince in the prescence of enough powerful blanks, could you get him to not come back?

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Ey phams, what's a good way to bump this up to 1850, since that seems to be the level the cool kids are playing at now.

>>52392914
Black kanniggets.

>>52392628
Pls respond

>>52392897
No. Blanks just make the warp harder to bleed into the material plan. It will be easier to kill, but it'll come back all right.

It is extremely hard to completely destroy a demon. Even GK that use their true names only banish them for so long.

>>52392950

Actually speaking of the Grey Knights, wouldn't an all-blank marine chapter make more sense as the Ordo Malleus's unsubtle but super secret beatstick?

>>52392683
>literally Emperor's grandsons
>tools at best and heretic mutants at worst
Ask me how i know you don't know shit about the setting.
>Beside they fall to chaos half the time
Because regular humans don't do that by the trillions, right?

>>52392960
Blanks are very rare.
So many blanks at the same place may imply death by brain damage to any astropath who would try to get to their world.

>>52392628
No, if one model can't, no one can.
Similar to if you put a chaos terminator lord in with a squad of chaos chosen.

>>52392582

I wish the models had big gloves like this.

>>52392979
Seems you haven't read the lates shit from HH, the Emperor consider marines tools.

>>52392950
>It is extremely hard to completely destroy a demon. Even GK that use their true names only banish them for so long.

It's one of the reasons the GKs have a vault of Tesseract Labyrinths. Sometimes imprisoning a Daemon is better than Banishing.

>>52393000
>HH
There's the problem. And i know all about the ''writing''. I meant they are literally genetically his grandsons.

>>52392960
For starters, Psykers, even though they are rare as fuck (although becoming more and more common by M42) are still much, much easier to come by than Blanks.
Second, their psyker genes can be actively used, with powers and shit. SoS have more of an aura thing. And even then, a proper demonic invasion will roll over them, they can be overloaded.
Might as well take the big dudes that can fight like no others and shoot sacred flames on top of that, if you want to survive.

>>52393000
>HH

When you start taking anything concerning Empy or Chaos in the HH seriously, you know you're plain wrong. Shit's a mess.

You know that big webway gate in the emperor's basement that Custodes are supposedly constantly warring against?

Wouldn't it be easier to just like, station the Silent Sisterhood to sit around it reading magazines or some shit?

>>52392775
You are wrong, anon, read the Harlequin codices.

>>52393048
Webway gate was sealed.

>>52393040
Same can be said for anything past 4th maybe 5th.

So if we are going to pick and choose what parts of the lore we consider correct. I'll say Goto books are the best example of marine and Eldar warfare.

>>52393048
Mate, how about you read the damn books that features them before opening your mouth?

They can be overloaded and overwhelmed by sheer numbers. So no, it wouldn't work.

>>52393048
Vect tried that with khains gate bur it just drove all the blanks psycho

>>52393073
Goodness gracious anon, that is a one hell of a slippery slope here.

Remind that genestealer cults are the underdog protagonists of this setting.

>>52393086

Well then they're shitty blanks compared to Jurgen then.

Reminder that stormtroopers are the most defensive troops in the setting.

>>52392622
>selling minis

>>52393119
Jurgen, rest in peace you magnificent bastard.

>>52393119
Jurgen didn't encounter tons of demons like there is in the webway you silly.
We're talking uncountable numbers and several Greater Demons here.

>>52392981
>>52393021
Sisters of Silence numbered in tens of thousands during the Great Crusade (so legion-size), also their aura can be trained to be focused, that's why they have ranks with Oblivion Knights being the top.
>>52392981
They had Navigators in specially insulated chambers guiding the Black Ships.

>>52392914
>Open bin
>Throw the minis in it
>Get 1850pts of non-cheese army
>Paint it
>Tell your friend to send me their thanks

>>52393138
Wait, he died?

I hope Wyches get a buff in 8th ed. In so far, they're only really useful for feeding Soulburst, but they look so cool and I just want them to be more than ablative armor for my Succubus or what have you

>>52393154
Yes, he dead, not sure if Cain is dead or not.

>>52393073
The biggest problem is that the retard ''writers'' completely missed the point that what makes 40k so grimdark isn't just the present, but the fact that there was a potential for an eternal golden age with a legitimate messiah figure, and now his works are perverted and he's a corpse on a throne. It made it that much more depressing, especially with that constant shred of hope that ''Everything could still be alright, The Emperor just needs to come back'' that made it all the more painful.
Now, instead, you have autists writing The Emperor as increasingly more evil and detached (and less powerful), his Imperium as increasingly more corrupt and rotten during it's golden era, his sons as increasingly more fallible manchildren, and the Chaos Gods as increasingly more powerful and in control.
At it's best, 40k was a story about how the parasitic gods of chaos had to get their shit together and covertly take down The Emperor, who was far more powerful then them, because he was gonna fuck their shit up. Then they gorged on the remains of his works.
Now you have them as being these all powerful deities who were always in control and The Great Crusade was of no consequence. I heard some autist claim how they're actually only diverting a miniscule fraction of their attention to the Materium.
The way it's going, The Emperor is gonna turn out to be a daemon prince, the whole thing a ruse, and in the next edition the entire universe is gonna just be one of Tzeentch's many dreams.

tl;dr: every edition Big E is weaker, less noble and benevolent, and less of consequence, the chaos gods are more powerful, important and in control, and the writing gets worse.

>>52393142
Dude have you seen the amount of ignores cover ap3 around now? Ravenwing are good but not ~that~ good.

>>52393056

The most recent codex, the current canon, does not refer to them as blanks, or not having souls, rather that they are "doomed to have their essence devoured" by Slaanesh.

So, sorry, not blanks.

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>>52392667
>The Kommando Nob has a dent in his boot and a hole in his Slugga's holster.
I think about it.
Ok that's pretty funny.

>>52393140
Doesn't change the fact that the Uber Space marine with psychic powers will still be a better agressive force than them.

However, SoS would work wonders with Exorcists for example.

>>52393174
ADB needs to never write anything loyalist related ever again. He's fine for the most part with the Traitors, but goddamnit, keep him away from the Emperor

>>52392766
>not recognising the most recognizable and used ork warboss mini
Literally every ork player has like 6 of these lying around somewhere. You can propably get one for free if you ask around.

>>52393186
Well, yes. I must be a bit salty due to my chaos-ness.

>>52393174
Horus Heresy books can be fun, but they are fucking up 40k lore so bad it hurts.

Now Gathering of the Storm is another shit thing. Abaddon some how manage to kickstart an army bigger than the ones of the great crusade.

Don't get me started with the Primarch book. Was it 9 deadly traps in a row? Also why the fuck do non Abaddon forces under the control of a black stone.

It almost feel like the HH and GotS writers just read a wiki page of 40k and started writing thier shit.

>>52393186

>mfw a Stormsword removed 90% of this dudes Raven Wing in a single shot.

He just sort of stood there in complete shock.

He then started muttering something about

>op bullshit

>>52393174
This is an important point. The grimdarkness of the setting relies on the contrast between a Good Emperor and an Evil Empire.

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>>52393230

>>52393262
My friends call the hounds of abbaddon without rhinos or any other transports "OP Bullshit". We obviously don't have the same meta

>>52393268
Basically this. I honestly think his fanwank is worse than that of Matt Ward's.

>>52393254
>Gathering of the Storm
>Title is just "Gathering Storm"
Is it Gathering of the Storm in other languages? I assume it would be en francais.

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>>52393268
>>52393230

>Reading Black Library

No thanks, you can keep your embarrassing fan wank

>>52393293
>hounds of abbaddon
>op
your friend has learning difficulties.

>>52393212
Even better when you consider that it most likely went off when he tried to draw it AKA while on a stealth mission.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJg6Duzzf4
>WIV GROT LIKE TREAD, UP TO OUR PREY WE SNEAK *BANG* OW, ME ZOGGIN FOOT

>>52393297
Nope, baguette is "Gathering Storm" but we call it "Gathering Cheese"

>>52392706
thicc
>paints

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Get any interesting games in recently, /tg/?
Or any big projects?
Share with everyone else in the thread!

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>>52393230
He's going to write about the Emperor's Spears, and is a diehard fan of Abnett and Brotherhood of the Snake, so prepare yourself for some grade A snowflakery.

Meanwhile, do read pdf related, it's everything a book about an unknown chapter should be (although I will admit the ending is a bit meh). Plu it was never actually sold because of legal shenanigans so it's not hurting poor Kearney (whom I suspect of uploading it in the first place to not see his work forgotten).

>>52393325
He plays horde nids

>>52393340
Ah, I figured it could be french as the grammar usually requires "de la" all the time.
Gathering Cheese is accurate though.

>>52393363
Point stands.

>>52393301
Well recent GW fluff make no sense either.

Like 10k Custodes in M41, when they have this numbers at height of they strengtht during Great Crusade and they get heavy loses during Heresy.

Also all Gathering Storm.

>>52393363

>horde nids

That's like breaking your own legs and arms and screaming at a Land Rover as it drives past at how OP it is

>now the only joke things left to get plastic before sisters are squats and "greatcoat guard"

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>>52393347
Working on my Tzeentch/Thousand Son forces right now, and once I finish I'll probably get the few things left that have been sitting incomplete on my backlog for my crons. Really excited to start painting Magnus once I get done with all these small units.
Pic related, a screamer. Please excuse the quality of the photo and the model, I'm quite shit.

>>52393347
oldschool ghazzy is best ghazzy
bonus for makari,too

>>52393385
They're still making Custodes, no?
I figured they don't die too often so they've had 10000 years to get back up to strength.

>>52393254
>Abaddon some how manage to kickstart an army bigger than the ones of the great crusade.
That's been in the lore since at least 4e, anon.

>>52393174
>tl;dr: every edition Big E is weaker, less noble and benevolent, and less of consequence, the chaos gods are more powerful, important and in control, and the writing gets worse.
And yet the Emperor is the last hope the humanity has.

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>>52393401

>Greatcoat Guard
>joke

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>>52393333
motherfucker I almost drowned choking on my soda

>>52392864
It is meant to be anon.

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>>52392359
Well, I'm posting it every time this question is asked. Love fire warrior's aesthetic. They look like perfect future soldiers. Actually, I can't find a good word to describe it. They have everything that is needed to call them futuristic but still they feel somehow lite and consistent - 10/10 as a basic infantry model

>>52393378
most books keep their english title (Traitor Legions) and units too (Scarab Occult Terminators)
>>52393400
He also plays full firewarriors/fireblades Tau
My "op-est shit" unit is a chaos lord with pfist/lightning claw on a bike with a sigil

>>52392359
Wyches
Honestly, most of the Dark Eldar line is top notch, but something about Wyches pushes them to the top.

>>52393401
Someone asked about squats at some GW gathering recently, they said they're never ever doing them. However with Kharadrons Overlords, it's basically squats.

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So how are forge world armies like death korps, elysians, or renegades in terms of balance compared to the normal armies?

>>52392359
Either new Rubrics or new Lord of Change, can't decide which one I like more

>>52393347
Played Zone Mortalis a while ago, turn 2 charge between Loyalist and traitor Terminators killed almost everything on the board. Never played the mode before so we ended up using Lego, was hectic with the enemy unknown rule in play. Would recommend anyone to try that specail rule for ZM for smaller scale (500pts a side) games.

>>52393414
Aren't they fighting a neverending battle against demons on terra or something though?

>>52393460
Fantasy got squat so hard that Squat materialise in AoS

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Maybe I am a little salty after learning this but Why the fuck do 10 rubric marines cost $27 and 10 guardsmen cost $29?

>>52393477
It's implied the man made webway portal still has a shit ton of daemons trying to break in so they send the custodes and sisters in to fight and the ones in the palace are on break.

>>52393490
GW can't lower their prices that's why.

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>>52393490
Because fuck you.
Not an insult, that's GW's actual reason

>>52393508
I know, I mean, wouldn't that keep their numbers down? Attrition over 10000 years and all that jazz?

>>52393461
I can speak a bit for Elysians as they are my regular opposition, they suffer from paying a lot for Deep Strike and war gear having older more expensive costs, mostly visible in Veteran Doctrines. They are fun to play against so long as they don't load up entirely on Vultures but there's this weird mix of taking no AA against them is annoying but every time I break out a Stalker the game is entirely in my favour. I think there was a point in maybe 6th edition where they could do a powerful list but we had paused playing during 5th ed.

>>52393526

"Because fuck you" is also the only reason Squats aren't about.

Can the formations in the Angels of Death supplement be used as part of the Decurion in the Space Marine codex?

>>52393511
Is that because of some contract thing or because of their Happy merchant tendencies?

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>>52393490
As another anon said, GW can't lower the prices of existing products. That's just not happening, because the sales wouldn't follow adequately. However, based Rountree makes plenty of boxed deals in order to cut prices some other way, and brand new releases have decent prices.

>>52392914
Wouldnotplayagainst/10

>>52393419
The problem is, it went from ''The second The Emperor awakens everything is right again and the gods are permafucked'' to ''they wont really care''

>>52393490
Emperor's soldiers should cost more than hideous heretics.

>>52393490
>10 rubric marines cost $27
They cost 50?

>>52393586
I didn't know that, I hope that one day they would do a cadian platoon box(just five squads and a command squad) some day. I need some conscripts and it really bothers me how much they cost.

>>52393586
>based Rountree
Oh fuck off

>>52393634
Go Away Sanguinor

>>52393293
Every time I bring any kind of Greater Daemon (always the lesser part of a CSM army) I get called a cheesy fuck by the guy who plays only grav bikes.

>>52393655
"Cyclopia is BS" says the librarian council player.

>>52393634
Looks pretty midget. Maybe Sigmar's Liberator body would be better? I mean it will take more work but still

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>>52393648

No.

>>52393638
At my FLGS they were listed as $27 US. Now that you mention that I feel better having checked the webstore. Now I feel compelled to go get a deal off of my FLGS.

>>52393490
Don't know what you're on about mate, but 10 Caidans are 18 quids while 10 rubrics are 27 pounds here.

>>52393490
Anon they cost $50

>>52393689
Remember when Cadians came in a box of 20 for less than a box of 10.

>>52393674

The Sanguinor is just straight up unambiguously Sandwich's wanderinf soul, right?

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>>52393674
Yes

>>52393490
>>52393511
>>52393526
>>52393586
>>52393638
>>52393689
>>52393690


See >>52393677

Sorry for getting butt hurt, It seems my FLGS fucked up.

>>52393707

It's very heavily implied

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>>52393709

No.

>>52393674
>>52393634

>Shorter than a Gaunt's head

Marinelets, they never learn

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>>52393741
Please?

>>52393347
I'm thinking about what I can do to either upgrade my Astra Militarum or Sisters of Battle army. I guess you could call that a project?

Is Liquitex primer OK or too thick?????

>>52392694
People who think SoS would make good partners are Reifags.

It's literally "I don't want a human being, I want a completely passive sex object with no will or persona of its own".

>>52393707
Thanks to the HH, not at all!

It is now just someone from the old Sanguinary Guard that was made as a decoy for Sangui when he was in Guiliman's Imperium Secundus.

Ain't the HH great?

>>52393741
Jesus fuckin Christ, I can't believe how shitty this model is

>>52393363
As someone who plays horde nids, i apologize
Also my friend thinks nids are op, and he plays /competitive/ taudar

>>52393707

No because Sanguinor isn't a turbo-unkillable monstrous creature with a rape weapon and a huge list of army buffs.

Or the Sanguinor was introduced before the Primarchs got hyped out the ass into ludicrous hyperbeings. Pick one.

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Can someone help me get a nice idea/design going for this Chaos Lord I rolled up, in terms of converting him into existence?

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>>52393763
Buy some suicidal deepstrike units. Tempestus Scions can be fun.

>>52393792
Or, you know, being dead and all kinda weakened him, and he needs to be fully restored to return to his prime. He did absolutely rape Ka'Bandha in the fluff.

>>52393769

Didn't Rei grow a thousand miles tall and eat everyone on the planet?

That doesn't sound very passive to me.

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>>52392359

I SAID IS LIQUITEX PRIMER OK OR TOO THICK

>>52393769
Or are turned on by the prospect of slowly drawing emotions out of them. Kinda like Love and Krieg.

>>52393776

So some BL retard thought...

>how can I fucking out and out ruin the Sanguinor?

Fanfiction GOBSHITES

That isn't even meant to be the Sanguinor I built a jump pack deathwatch captain and figured making him an ex-sanguinary guard would look cool.

>>52393809
What are the final two stats? Willpower and what else

Is this for Inquisitor? i haven't played that in so many years man

>>52393817
I actually have one squad of five, I should paint them. But the next thing I want to do for my IG is to replace my standard infantry with Steel Legion miniatures, I just wonder if I can afford it.

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>>52393838
>too thick
Don't know what it means

>>52393564
Something about shareholders agreement. "They can't lower prices of their existing kits"

It's reasons why they're making Combo boxes. To "lower prices", while not actually lowering prices of existing boxes.

>>52393845
As always, neckbeards imagining themselves as shiny saviours, just like the age old redeemed succubus.

>>52392628
If a single model in a squad can't sweep, the entire squad cannot sweep.

any more information on 8th in the last few days?

>>52392979
The emperor himself is a incalculably powerful warp entity whose preferred physical form is a shiny giant so beautiful normal people can't stand his sight. Using any meaningful definition the dude is most definitely not human

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>>52393873

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Is THIS PRIMER OK TO USE

>>52393958
Why are you not asking on /wip/?

>>52393942
>The emperor himself is a incalculably powerful warp entity
Apparently you didn't get the memo anon, he's just a perpetual who sold his soul to Chaos according to BL.

>>52393958
GESSO
gesso
gesso
gesso
gesso

>>52393921
Shit. Thanks buddy.

>>52393986
How can we stop BL from writing?

Beside the Comissars and Inquisition books everything is rather bad.

>>52394047
>Beside the Comissars
You mean Gaunt?
You know that he fought Khorne Psykers with his sue regiment?

>>52393592
Because of the grand total of 9 grav guns, 3 of which can only shoot once?

>>52394084
>You know that he fought Khorne Psykers with his sue regiment?

Good. A magical God with daemon servants who hands out magical blessings and magic weapons not liking magic was always dumb.

>>52393868
ah no, that's for the old "Realm of Chaos" books. The stats are less important, as he is going to be used for 40K more than anything.

>How do we fix terminators?
Give them grav-cannons.

>>52394084
Are you going to tell me Khorne doesn't use ranged weapon too?

Khorne might not like magic but the faggot still needs it to make the blood flow.

As long blood flows Khorne does not care, he likes Melee but you need other shit to do proper Melee.

>>52393986
>The emperor himself is a just a perpetual who sold his soul to Chaos
>All Four Chaos Gods barely equal the same power as some scrub who sold his soul to them.

And this is why this is stupid. Either Chaos is so incompetent that they gave a mortal so much power that he's an equal to ALL FOUR AT ONCE or Chaos is holding back and never trying, because if they really went "all out" they'd instantly win!

>Either Chaos is terribly incompetent or so stronk, but holding back to make thibgs "interesting", but cam win at any point so there is no tension.

https://youtu.be/Jmyno4NDvR8

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How do we fix Bullgryns?

Either lower the point cost, or make it so the power mauls count as power weapons and you can take things like power axes for them.

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>>52392359
Everything orky rolled into one. This model got me into the hobby.

>>52394147
So Chaos is Aku?

>>52394047
Many of us cope with it by straight up ignoring the books entirely. Maybe we should start a petition.
>>52394084
You do know that Khorne hates SORCERERS and has nothing against psykers that use their natural abilities to spill blood?

>>52394084
>Khorne Psykers

And this is why removing the distinction between Psykers and Sorcerers was stupid

>Sorcerers used other being's powers to control the Warp. Read - Cowardly because you're using another being's strength - Khorne disproves of.

>Psykers use your own mind to blow up heads and crush tanks. Metal as fuck. Khorne doesn't care as you're using your own power. Same as guns and melee.

>>52394147
>And this is why this is stupid. Either Chaos is so incompetent that they gave a mortal so much power that he's an equal to ALL FOUR
AT ONCE
OR, and bear with me here, MAYBE HE'S JUST MORE POWERFUL THEN THEM AND IS COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THEM OTHERWISE.
Crazy, right?

>>52393872
>Steel Legion
Patrician taste

>>52393828
Dreadnoughts really are the most 40k icons for me, along with basic space marines

>>52394162

their shield should give invulnerable saves like every other fukkin shield does.

>>52394213
But he hates all kind of witchcraft and psykers are his favorite sacrifices.

>>52394215
>MAYBE HE'S JUST MORE POWERFUL THEN THEM AND IS COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THEM
We're talking about BL Emperor where he was a perpetual who sold his soul to Chaos for power. HARD TO BE COMPLETELY UNRELATED WHEN HE LITERALLY MADE A DEAL WITH THEM FOR POWER.

>>52394255
It does.

To Fix Bullgryns just let them take the power mace and slab-shield OR invuln shield rather than forced options. and give the leader WS5

just remove the shitty grenade launcher no one wants it and their supposed to be a melee unit.

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>>52393436
I bought two Start Collecting boxes for my new Tau army and I'm looking forward to fielding these guys so much. It takes me like six hours to fully paint one though, because I weather and highlight everything on them and use like 3-4 coats of Ulthuan Grey and Abbadon Black to touch up that lovely white armour and make sure it's not bleeding onto the black bodysuit.

This is my first go at painting them, but I've improved a fair bit in the time it's taken me to get up to sixth one.

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got a fluff question,

im converting a dark apostle for my alpha legion army but i found out all apostles come from the word bearers ( were chaplains). does this mean all apostle use the word bearer colors? will it seem odd if he is using alpha legion colors or should i stick with word bearer scheme for my apostle in my alpha legion army?

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>>52394238
IKR
I'm thinking about buying all this atm.

>>52394277
Because GW retcon'd Psykers and Sorcerers to be the exact same thing. Which I mentioned was stupid.

>>52394306

let me rephrase: a shield that gives a 3+ Invln.
just +1 armor save for the big shield is a bad joke imo.

>>52394325
Since AL Dark Apostle's are inspiring rebellion against Imperial rule more than worshiping Chaos you could refluff it somehow, maybe instead of an Apostle it's just the first Alpha Legion marine that infiltrated whatever society the cultists are being drawn from. Maybe he killed a monster or tyrant terrorizing them and now they're fanatically devoted to him

>>52394305
Well, what i'm saying is that BL is absolute dogshit and the shaman sacrifice origin story is the best.

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How fucked am I ?

>>52394255
The one that comes with the Power Maul combo does at least. It gives them 5++. The codex is misleading, it says only in close combat, but the FAQ says they get it all the time. Of course it just makes them 60 points.

>>52394306
I like the grenade launcher and I like ripper guns, but 12 inch range is bad. If both were either 18 or 24 inches, they would be way better, but slow movement with short guns is not a great combo.

I would appreciate a cheaper upgrade cost. Power Maul and Brute Shield is great, but 60ppm gets pricey fast. Power Maul plus Slabshield would be nice too. I personally like 4+/5++ over 3+ though. Too many Knight Battle cannons and Grav and Plasma shit out there in my meta for 3+ to ever do anything except let me down.

>>52394415
I think 3+ in base contact with a 5++ with the +1 cover for units behind mechanic would be all right for the Slabshield. Maybe the Brute Shield could give a 4++ to make it a worthwhile upgrade.

>>52394327
Go for it

>>52394327
Consider selling your house.

Or buying recast.

>>52394321
I gonna buy 2 boxes for Tau too. It's gonna be my first army. I haven't came up with a color scheme just yet but I wanted to know how much paint I've to buy to paint whole two boxes?

>>52393347

Working on an Imperial Knight at the moment, slowly building the torso and filling gaps while I wonder how the hell I'm going to magnetize all the weapons. Played a cool game of Admech vs Orks, one Mek killed my Dominus, my Knight and a squad of Ruststalkers. Still won, just. Turns out a 25% points handicap and taking every possible upgrade inc. grav against minmaxed FW Orks is about a fair fight. Dominus got the hero play and punched the Knight from 2HP up to full with the Uncreator Gauntlet, which let me kill his KillBursta and Kustom Battle Fortress.

>>52392373
THIS!

>>52394445
That's cool. Too bad you weren't actually reading, because we were agreeing that BL Emperor was trash and why.

>>52394473
Being able to mix and match, along with giving the grenade launcher extra range and boosting the default Invuln of both shields would help a lot. I'd still say they could be cheaper though, ideally closer to 40 or 50 points.

>>52394489
Eh, it's not much more expensive than buying a similar amount of marines.

>>52392775
They have blanks - the white guardians of the black library

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>>52393873
>those hips

real women don't have hip like THAT

>>52394596
I could agree with this a lot. I think that would improve them a lot too without having do anything to the kit. 40 points base would be good and maybe 10 points for a Power Maul, while the Brute Shield was a free upgrade.

As for Ogryn, I'm not sure how to fix them. If they don't have access to shields or upgrades then they are just stuck with 5+ armor. Lower their cost to 25 or 30? I guess they could be 30-35 if the Ripper Guns gave them Rending or Shred or something. Or even if Ripper Guns were like Assault 4, 18/24 inch range with Shred on the gun.

>>52394651
Well new Celestine is a warp stuff deamon.

>>52394542
Head they're gonna retcon it to Horus just straight up kicking his ass, with Emps not holding back at all.

>>52394677
shush, celestine is pure

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>>52394651
Well, then you have meet wrong women I think

>>52394629
Ye sorry, you said Steel Legion and I was thinking Death Korps

>>52394699
And perpetual Olly will rekt Horus.
Then dying Emperor will say "Just as Planned!" and will be revealed that he was Cabal agent all along.

>>52394662
Dropping normal Ogryn to around 30 points would be fair. Maybe give an,extra shot on their gun and boost the range, but the bigger problem there is more that they don't fill solid Niche.

Maybe if you could join special weapon vets to them to take advantage of meatshields and majority toughness, but that might be weird

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What is Red Rage and how does it taste?

>>52394725
Blame GW for writing those shit books.

Blowing up Cadia is fine compared to the fluff rape that happens before and after that.

>>52393092
>gates of khaine
>drove
ROAD TRIP YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH

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>they left gaps in the rhino

Is GW even trying anymore?

>>52394763
bags of sand

>>52394797
>Blowing up Cadia is fine compared to the fluff rape that happens before and after that
Still no. But it's least shittiest book in Gathering Storm trilogy.

>>52394810
Custodes and SoS Codex is best evidence that GW is not trying anymore.

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>>52394745

>>52394651
>real women
You need to leave your house, or internet better.

>>52394490
Pretty much one pot of each colour you use. Buy more as needed.

>>52394749
>the bigger problem there is more that they don't fill solid Niche.
So much this. That's why I want their guns to be better to a point where they are worth taking. Another problem is that for 40 points you can get an Armored Sentinel with a Multi-Laser so they would have to be different enough from that kind of unit too. Thinking on it more, my ideal Ripper Gun would be Assault 4, 24 inches, S5 AP- with Shred and the Ripper Guns give them Shred in close combat. They would end up being like a Punisher tank kinda.

Right now there's not much reason to take Ogryn over Bullgryn since Bullgryn get a 12 inch gun too.

How do we fix Kroot? Make rifles 18" assault 2? Give furious charge? Give a slight initiative bump? Tired of one my my favorite units in the entire game being pointless and sad.

>>52394828
>We have to kill the Primarch to save the Primarch. Also I have a xeno bitch with me, totally cool!
>I'm alive! Oh look black marines they must be bad guys!
>It's a trap! It's a trap! It's a trap! It's a trap! The book, the movie, the show, the remake.

>Plot is advancing!
>Nothing change, one Planet and Craftworld less. Oh wow! Such plot advancing!
>But mug Eye of terror expanding!

I bet GW is either going full AoS or going to say that the Pylons passed their Reanimation Protocols and the Eye gets push back again.

>>52394954
Great, Thank you. Also, Black or White primer?

>>52394961
I think 18 assault 2 would be good. A special rule to give +1 Initiative on the charge would be nice too. Something called like Ambush Specialists. It would give Tau players incentive to take them as a counter assaulting unit.

>>52395015
Depends on the model and the end color, Google research that topic for coincice info. When in doubt, use black.

>>52394961
Give them St4 again and make their rifles Assault 2.

>>52394995
I'm more tired of people who insist on the most ridiculous and inane shit they can think of to slake their GW is Evul strawman.

>>52395018
Instead of supporting fire, when an enemy declares charges against a Tau Empire unit within 6" of a Kroot unit, the Kroot may declare a charge against the charging unit.

Allows Kroot to support via intercepting melee

>>52389147
To the guy who posted his first Space Marine list last night

You could easily turn 10 of the 20 unbuilt Marines into Sternguard. You could either be as simple as a different paint job for the helmets or you could buy the guns off bitz sites. That's what I would do.

As for the usefulness of Sternguard, yes they are basically tacticals with special ammo, but that ammo is amazing. You have an AP3, 2+ poison, an extended 30" range and a ignores cover round. The fact is that no matter their non vehicle target is, it will be effective. Most of the time you're gonna be firing off that 2+ poison, and remember bolter drill allows you to reroll 1s. So you're hitting on 3s rerolling 1s, wounding on 2s. From Terminators to Monstrous Creatures. The other ammo is pretty specific, but the AP3 ammo Gets Hot! However you reroll 1s so you have a very insignificant fear to use them compared to other chapters.

There's a First Company Formation that would allow you to just take 3 Sternguard in Rhinos with a special Fear bubble and Fearless.

You will usually be outnumbered, but looking at your list the unit that's going to be doing most of the heavy lifting is your terminators. You have decent support behind them, but their only front line support is tactical Marines. If that terminator squad is handled either by destroying it or tarpitting it, then your army falls apart. The tactical Marines don't have enough damage potential to support the terminators. Sternguard would certainly be better, but even then I don't think they could provide the support needed.

Cont.

If Bjorn the Fell-Handed is as old as the Great Crusade then why is he in a shitty regular dreadnought?

Why not put him in a leviathan or contemptor?

>>52394325
Dark Apostle's were originally a Word Bearer only unit, as every other legion killed their Chaplains, though that's now been retconned, unfortunately.

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>>52395117
Yeah, make commies even better at completely negating melee armies.

>>52395125
At 1850 you really need some heavy hitters. My brother runs a semi competitive very elitey and vehicle heavy Iron Hands. It has no anti air, but in our meta you announce a flyer and the opponent can go back in and edit his list. Flyers are very rare in our meta


>Iron Hands exactly 1850
>Armored Task Force

3 Vindicators

1 Las cannon Predator

1 Auto cannon and heavy bolter predator

1 Thunderfire Cannon

1 Techmarine Servo harness and a relic

>Strike Force Command

Catafractii Captain (Smash fucker 3.0)

Command Squad with champion and apothecary

>First Company Strike Force

3 Sternguard Vets in Rhinos

>Honored Ancients

Iron Clad Dreadnaught in drop pod.

There's so much more to work with here because he has 3 Vindicators which chunk S10 AP2 large blasts. His front line is centered around the command squad and Smash Fucker, but he's supported on the front line by a dreadnaught and 3 Sternguard. The artillery coming from the far back matches your Devasator squads (but Iron Hands get bonuses to vehicles while you get bonuses to Devasators so don't think you need to spam vehicles because of this example.) Your Devasators dish out more fire power but his vehicles always dish out the same fire power even with 1 Hull Point left. But he also has a Thunderfire cannon as well which is also extremely versatile.

The key difference in these lists is that he has his deathball supported by 3 Sternguard squads as well as a Dreadnaught and 3 Vindicators. You of course have a flyer but it has to land at some point and it will attract every fire from everything in range, especially if you want to charge those terminators the turn they get out. But those terminators aren't charging until turn 3 at the earliest. The Iron Hands list has no objective secured, but he has enough fire power to blow any tactical Marines off an objective if they needed it.

Direct comparison aside, you need more dangerous shit on the board at 1850

>>52394699
Probably, didn't Master of Mankind had the Emperor referring to the Primarchs as numbers.

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>>52394490
Also magnetize your Crisis Suit weaponry.

Magnetizing is easy, buy some 1 or 2mm x 1mm magnets, get a drillbit the same size, drill a hole the depth of the magnet in the plastic, drop a dab of glue in the hole and push the magnet in till it's level with the plastic surface. Repeat the process on the other thing you're magnetizing, and be sure to arrange the poles properly so that they don't repel each other. An easy way to do it is once your first magnet is in, stack a bunch of magnets together (no glue) and let them grab the one you've glued in the hole. Now take the gun you want to stick onto the arm and drill a hole in that the same depth, put a drop of glue in it, and very slowly and gently push it onto the stack of magnets. Once the end magnet of the stack is partially in the hole, detach the stack from it so you don't accidentally glue more than one magnet into it, and push the magnet fully into the hole.

That's the easiest way I know to magnetize something. These are the kind of magnets you should get:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100X-DISC-Neodymium-Rare-Earth-Magnets-2mm-X-1mm-N48-/252459374810?hash=item3ac7c058da:g:4WgAAOSwwE5WZ7zb

Be sure to magnetize before you paint, so it's not conspicuous on the finished model.

>>52394955
Yeah. My dream for using Orgyn/Bullgryn is to load up a few with Slab Shields in a Valkyrie, fly them into enemy lines, and then drop them as a shield wall for some Scions and drop sentinels to make a mini fire base of sorts.

That aside, I feel like giving them Shred is still putting them in a similar role to Multilaser sentinels. It'd be nice to having pinning and make them more support-based that way, if everything wasn't immune to it.

>>52395126
>Leviathan

Yeah make him even more useless on the table.

>>52395116
GW is not evil, just incompetent.

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>>52393347

Played my first ever game in like 3 years.
Joined a Kill Team league at the local indy.
Opponent fielded 9 Tomb Blades.
:(

>>52394846
Sorry forspoilers.

>>52394961
Give them Furious Charge, have Furious charge go back to being +1 imitative as well, and give them a 'shotgun round' for their gun that fires as S 3 assault 2. Give the shaper the ability to buy assault grenades or something while you're at it

>>52395116
>>52395170
GW was evil a long while ago due to their CEO being a piece of shit asshole who ignored facts to try and model GW into some shitty model company.

>people buy our models for the models, not the game.

The new CEO is bretty based

>>52395204
Heck, the worst part of GW isn't GW. It's the investors. The investors are the absolute worst, since because of them GW isn't allowed to lower the price on individual model kits.

>>52395166
That could be fun. I have 3 Slabshield Bullgryn, but I just got 3 more. I want to make all of them Power Mauls with a Priest and Primaris Psyker in a Chimera and speed up the field. I feel like if they go alone they'll just get shot to death so I wonder what other units I can speed up with too.

>>52395144
>A blob of T-shirt save birdmen have joined the combat with extra attacks
>Instead of having to wait until their turn to make a disordered charge (assuming the unit is still alive)

It would work so long as everyone still ends up in one combat (assuming charge distances are made). Essentially, get the enemy into base to base with the Tau, then have the Kroot charge them.

>>52395236
Aren't the investors the same guys that own and run GW?

>>52395204
That CEO was/is part of Kirby's team.

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>>52395267
no, it's publicly traded. They've actually been doing really well for the last year. Seems like they've been skyrocketing since this whole gathering storm thing started.

>>52395236
>>52395267
Don't blame GW for taking advantage on a monopoly, Blane Warmachine and Infinity for having absolutely horrific and less business and advertising knowledge than a freshman MBA student.

GW has no real competition so no need to lower prices. They do bundles, but why lower your price when the closest competition is many many rungs below you?

>>52395288
Which is fine because there's probably a reason they made him CEO, he obviously does something well. Just not being a CEO of GW.

>>52395341
No, GW literally isn't allowed to lower their prices without massive lawsuits. They do the bundles to trick the investor retards, because they think big cost = more profits. The investors think this is supposed to be some sort of child's toy thing, not a hobby.

>>52395288
And? He's certainly better than Kirby.

>>52395341
It's still a good idea to have some cheap options and ways to reward people for buying in bulk. That's just good business sense.

Having start collecting boxes that are a good value helps encourage people to get into the hobby, and people also might buy that bundle instead of just one unit from it individually.

>>52395386
>GW literally isn't allowed to lower their prices without massive lawsuits.
Who told you that?

>>52395341
To utterly destroy the competition?

My complain is not about the prices (if they are high or low) is about how random they are.

On a side note, why the fuck does GW still have Stock for SoB? They sold every metal model for scrap, but some how kept a SoB stock that lasted a decade? They are either pulling an apple and making the stock run out artificially to keep people interested or they are still making metal SoB.

>>52394961
stop pretending they're a cqc unit or allow assault from infiltrate, still get a unit that fights like guardsmen without all the benefits

>>52394763
mountain dew code red

>>52395394
GW themself. They also said proudly that they never do marketing research.

>>52395386
Even if that's true, why would the investors want to lower prices when they have 0 competition?

>>52395390
Which is what they're doing.

>>52395416
>to utterly destroy the competition

The competition must make themselves resemble a threat before you want to lower the value of your product to destroy your competition.

They are random though. Which is odd.

>>52395236

>investors said do X

I read this all the time and would be grateful for a source.

Unless a person or group holds a majority share they literally can't tell GW to do shit, though they might have influence.

And "never lower prices" is something I've never heard in the business world. If a company had research to show lowering prices would net more profit/market share that's precisely what the 'investors' would 'tell' them to do.

>>52395416
I don't think they scrapped the SoB, for whatever reason. They're probably just trying to sell all of them before releasing plastic sisters.

>>52395436
I don't believe you.

>>52395341
>GW has no real competition so no need to lower prices
While true, GW already has lower prices on a per model basis than practically all competition, and certainly than all important competition. The only thing that makes 40k expensive is the model count, but that's not technically on GW: they only set the prices, not make you buy more models. They have kill team and Newcromuna coming up if you want low model counts.

>>52395442
t. anon that actually knows what he's talking about

>>52395442
"Never lower the prices" It is common when you agree to fixed share for x time. Usually no more than a couple of years, because fixing prices for many years is a sure way to fuck up.

So either the story is bullshit or GW really is another level of incompetence. The fuck send their luxury products by regular mail. Make what you want of that fact

>>52395459
There was a movement before the kill team revival towards higher and higher point games with larger models and more units. It's good they dialled back on it when they still could though, since they'd risk having to become like fantasy where you need hundred of models for even small games.

>>52395158
Really thank you for through guide, I was thinking about magnetizing them too. Most of the magnets I've seen on the sites was 3x1mm is this small enough? Can u recommend a drill for this? Also, What kind of Glue u use for magnets?

>>52395341
Youch, sick burn.

I am conflicted though as I deeply love many of the things GW have made and continue to do, I just find myself feeling apprehensive with how heavy handed they can be. The fact they make so much inventory exclusive to their personal online store does irk me as it is allowing them to be a monopoly. But like a fool I buy from there, coz shiny shit. At least they are showing signs of being open to the community as well as how much podcasts love to suck that big 'ol knob.

>the Black Templar upgrade kit has been sold out for at least two months

why

>>52395446
The thing is GW sold the left over stock of metal models as scrap when they turn to failcast.

That is why SoB are odd in that regard. Specially when they run out of stock and then are back in stock. Like I said it is either a huge stock that never got scrapped for god knows what reason or they are still making metal models just for SoB. The last option being more strange than anything.

Is Sanguinary Guard any good? Their models looks good.

In this Era of Battleships, I provide my guess as to what the new Synapse will look like.

Synapse:Units with this ability may use another unit from the same army that has this ability as the point of origin for their ability or any psychic powers, this includes command abilities.

That seems fair right? Then you can give the hive Tyrant the Lord Celestant command ability that makes it give a 24 inch aura of no battleshock.

>>52395534
I'd like to know why there's no Black Templars decurion. (And yes, I know Castellans exists but it's not quite the same, albeit very good).

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>>52395534
THE CRUSADE CALLS, BROTHER!

>>52395536
Yeah its a strange situation. But really considering they can charge $80 for a basic infantry squad I'm not surprised they keep selling them, regardless of how they do it.

They really do need to re-release them as plastic though. I've literally got $700 set apart in my bank account for the day GW opens pre-orders for plastic sisters.

In which book can I find the Psychic powers of change? and is the Lord of Change good in 40k? I really like the model.

>>52395563
Because they guys that care about the game are no longer working in GW.

So anon just forge the narrative and use free Landraider Crusaders for your Crusader dudes!

>>52395563

Same here. It's so bizarre that the only real BT formation that we have received requires $120+ of non-Templar models. It mystifies me as to why they didn't just give us a decurion like every other chapter tactic did in Angels of Death

>>52395568
I answered the call long ago; I just want to make my Templars look templar-y, but I am denied that opportunity

>>52395571
The last SoB model was in 2004 at the end of third edition.

How much over stock can GW of SoB? Makes you wonder.

>>52395536

As one of the long time SoB players that actually exist, I can say that every new model I've bought from GW since 5th edition has looked like a brand new cast, not something that's been sitting in a lot or on a shelf for 20 years. Trust me, I've bought both as a Sisters player. The newest metal I've bought was another canoness, and it too was not only shiny with tons of the pewter spindle flash, but also sharp, which meant the metal hadn't had time to bounce around and round off like older casts.

Take that as you will.

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You boyz got pics of cool ork vehicles?

I'm coming back to the hobby after a 4 years break (used to play Tyranids/Guards).

I'm having trouble deciding on a color scheme for my vehicles between very rusty (think those spiky dudes in Mad Max) or regular red paint chipped away (see pic) or something else that looks cool.

>>52395571
Are they really selling them though? If there was a market for them GW wouldn't wait on them this long.

>>52395633
My theory is that they are still making SoB metal models. They run out of stock long ago. As to why they do it? Beside the obvious Jew greed gold thingy.

>>52395642

GW has instantly sold out of the last two restocks of immolators and shit since they were rereleased in December with IA, so yes. They're really selling them and still underestimating the demand. I've been trying to get two more immolators since December and have failed at two different LGS in the area.

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Noob here. I'm trying to build a Charcharodons army, using their rule of giving another CCW to their tacticals for 1ppm.
However I feel like it would be basically like an assault squad without the jump packs.

Any pros and cons between the two? I'm keeping their bolters, hence the cost.

In the end I feel it basically is:
Tactical: 3 attacks on the charge (since +1CCW), bolters but drop pod cost to include
Assault: hammer of wrath on the charge (does that add up with the +1 attack on the charge so 3 attacks?) better overall mobility but might not get accross the board without getting killed

Again, big newbie, never played, so I'm probably missing loads.

>>52395642
SoB models constantly run out of stock. People are buying them and GW is restocking them.

Sure they don't run out fast, but they get sold.

>>52395642
Veridyan sold out in less than 5 minutes. Repeatedly. In fact every time they put up a new batch of her for sale she sells out instantly. There's also a couple polls they did on their facebook that showed Celestine as the most popular model/reason to buy the Triumvirate. They'd have to be cartoonishly incompetent not to re-release sisters at this point.

>>52395675
It's odd as the price of pretty much every metal apart from Iron is skyrocketing year on year and an anon from months ago costed it out as GW making a loss on every Sister they make, even with bulk discounts on materials.

If anything, I'm surprised that they haven't INCREASED the cost of sisters.

>>52395548
They're aight. No invuln save cucks em pretty bad. Master crafted power weapons, and cheap power fists is pretty nice.

Taking the Golden Host is decent, putting a bunch of inferno pistols with Dante's squad is pretty potent.

>>52395729
That's flat out wrong. I can buy a tonne, literally 2,204 pounds of iron, for $88. Steel is $300 a tonne. There's no way they're losing money from a purely materials standpoint.

>>52395675
my guess? it's too expensive to switch sisters over to plastic and they are still making them in metal because it's too expensive to get rid of them

>>52395715
GW is confused about people wanting something else beside marines.

>>52395729
Wait what? Are you telling me they are re stocking a dead army, where each sale does not cover the production cost?

If that is true. GW is in another level of incompetence.

No wonder they can't past 20% profit even with such inflated prices

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What colour red for Magnus? Looking for a red similar to pic related. I don't like the red that Duncan does in his vid and the box art is a disgusting pink. Anyone got a painted Magnus to share for inspiration?

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>>52395793
Look at that email about Veridyan when it was selling out again and again.

>>52395877
I know, they are utterly mind blown about it.

>Why are you buy this more than the Imperial Marine!?
>It is not a marine!

I like marines as much as the next guy, but for fuck sake GW when you leave an army to rot for a decade anything you throw at it will sell like hot bread.

>>52394810
Why a rhino? They should a way more pimp ride than a space m113

>>52395877
>people still think plastic sisters aren't coming

>>52395693
The things to consider is that tacticals are scoring, and you'll need them anyway for a CAD. Assault marines with Jump packs are also more expensive, so compared to foot-based assault marines They're quite similar.

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>>52393086
>being this mad

>>52394810
Are you talking about the plates above the treads?

>>52395793
>GW is confused about people wanting something else beside marines.

I can just imagine them sat in a conference room staring in confusion at a blown-up version of Blanche's painting

>I...I guess she's *kind* of a marine...I mean, the power armour
>Have we got it wrong all these years, is it actually the bolters the players like?
>Maybe it's because it's a model of an iconic piece of art for a much loved but under-supported fac...
>Shut up Phil, you're just an intern, got make the tea