Pathfinder General /pfg/ What do you do with genies in your

DM was a really big Robin Williams fan, last time a genie showed up in one of our games was right after he died.

Guy gave us all a limited wish, but with the caveat that the wishes could not be used for greedy purposes. This was to a party that had a CE Barbarian in it.

Jolly will save Spheres of Might, but only with YOUR help. Leave comments on the playtest documents and in the DDS threads hammering home the flaws in the current iteration and how to fix them. Provide enough ammunition and even the likes of Ssalarn can be defeated.

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>>52390849
Jolly has been MIA.

Ssalarn is dismissing and deleting more comments.

Hey, what happened to the last general? I was slowly phoneposting(I know, I know) and it just disappeared.
Well, an Anon was asking about Skalds, and if you're still around, here's some tips.
For feats, picking Power Attack and going to town with a 2hander is a good idea. From there, you can consider either speccing into Intimidate with Cornugon Smash/Hurtful/Shatter Defenses, or pick Arcane Strike and go for Riving Strike if there are Save or Suck casters in your party.

Rage powers are a little trickier, I've found: they really depend on party composition and number, in particular.
Superstition and Celestial Totem are generally good defensive options, and Beast Totem is an obvious offensive powerhouse; if there are plenty of Melee attackers in your party, Spirit Totem is a fine choice. Following this, if there is a summoning focused character in your party, Spirit Totem becomes more valuable and you can pick some powers that are usually only useful with summons: the Linnorm Death Curses and Bloody Fist. Summons usually have so many Nat attacks that probably at least one will crit, and if the enemy tries to seat away them to deny flanking and stuff, they'll explode in a SARENRAE SNACKBAR cloud. A bit gimmicky, but hilarious.

>>52390857
It's almost like he doesn't want any feedback that isn't positive. I actually look forward to 2hu's playtest data.

>>52390885
http://www.dropdeadstudios.com/forum/#/20170321/my-concerns-regarding-spheres-of-might-so-far-5401451/page8/

Not a full genie, but I have an NPC half-efreeti in my game. More of a punch girl than a caster/wish granter, she still got bound to a lamp when a full blooded relative found a way to pass the buck and leave her taking orders from a crazy merchant-queen. Ended up with a crush on the party's pyro wizard girl and went to some trouble to ensure said wizard got her lamp after the merchant lady was dead. Wizard gorl sort of returns her affections but is socially awkward as fuck and not really sure how to treat her to a date.

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I have to say, one of the strongest dips any character can make using Spheres of Might is spending one feat on Extra Combat Talent (Dueling). Take both drawbacks for Dueling, and then spend your two free talents on:

>Defensive Slice
>When a ranged attack is made against you or a target within your reach, you can cut the weapon (or ammunition) out of the air, deflecting the attack so the target takes no damage. As an attack of opportunity, make a melee attack roll at your highest bonus. If the result is greater than the attack roll total of the ranged attack, the attack is deflected. You must be aware of the attack and not flat-footed. Associated Feat: Cut from the Air.

>Scar Tissue
>Your countless dueling practices have built up thick scar tissue and callouses that provide you protection from bleeding wounds. You gain DR 2 / bludgeoning and reduce all bleed damage you take by 1; bleed damage cannot be reduced below 0 by this ability. At 5th level and every 5 levels thereafter the damage reduction granted by this ability increases by 2 points and you reduce any bleed damage you take by an additional 1 point.

For the price of a single feat, you gain Cut from the Air + Smash from the Air and scaling damage reduction X/bludgeoning.

Take Muscular Reflexes (Strength-based Combat Reflexes from Spheres of Might) or Combat Reflexes, and you and any ally in your reach should be extremely well-defended against anything that requires a ranged attack roll.

This is probably unintentional though, seeing how a one-feat/one-talent investment is usually less spectacular.

>>52390885
2hu may not be the hero we want.

But they're the hero we need.

>>52390960
Can you actually take drawbacks when taking a feat to get a talent?

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>>52391046

>Sphere-Specific Drawbacks
>Sphere-specific drawbacks grant the practitioner an extra combat talent in the prerequisite sphere. A practitioner does not gain the bonus combat talent until they gain the sphere-specific drawback’s prerequisite sphere.

There is no stipulation against such.

Say I'm building a unarmed barbarian because i want to punch things.
Brutal Pugilist is obvious, but am i better going beast totem or a dip into martial artist monk to up my unarmed strike damage?

If i went monk could I flurry of blows while raging?

>>52391128
How can you dip lawful monk from chaotic barb?

>>52391182
You only need to be lawful while gaining monk levels, you don't lose the abilities if you ever go chaotic. So the character could be a once lawful character that went neutral or chaotic.

>>52391182
Martial artist monk archetype can be any alignment, but replaces ki abilities with bonus feats.

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What are some essential feats for Zen Archer? Besides Point Blank Shot and Precise Shot. Never made a dedicated archer so any advice would be appreciated.

Vult sent out PM acceptances last night, if you didn't get in, you're out.

>>52391258
Rapid Shot, Manyshot, Clustered Shots, then it branches out a bit. You can pick up the Snap Shot line for taking ranged attacks of opportunity, or Ranged Trip/Disarm or any of the other Called Shots feats to get silly with it. But if you're using a bow, generally you'll want to full-attack with as many arrows as possible as soon as possible.

>>52391290
Are Rapid Shot and Manyshot still worth taking? They don't stack with Flurry of Blows for the Zen Archer.

>>52391263
But I didn't get anything. I thought he wanted a cute corruption dump...

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It seems that the Spheres of Might blacksmith is slowly being adjusted towards sanity, although they might be going too far with it. Economic crafting went from a must-have smithing insight to something nearly useless (10% off on mundane crafting) until 10th-level. Likewise, thunderous blows' natural armor/natural weapon sunder no longer applies the bonus damage dice, making it a very tenuous option given how high CMD scales, and how much it takes to optimize for sunder. Perhaps they could have been toned down in a way that did not cripple their usefulness?

Besides; sharpen weapons, practiced power, and penetrating blows are still untouched, when they are a flagrant source of extra offense on a full BAB chassis.

>>52391329
Oh, I'm dumb. In that case, skip both of those. You've got a surprising amount of options now! Clustered Shots is still a must-have since you'll need it to punch through anything with DR, but in early levels it isn't that necessary.

Improved Called Shot would be more worth it if you could deal crazy high damage per shot, which probably won't happen. Snap Shot (and its improvements) will let you protect yourself from things coming at you or your friends, but you'll need to take Rapid Shot (now useless due to being a Zen Archer) just to qualify for it. Ranged Trip/Disarm is potentially nice if you don't feel like doing damage and instead helping out your frontline fighters.

Assuming you're using a longbow, and your GM is actually using the soft cover rules, I can also suggest the Deadeye Bowman religion trait.

I don't think flurry is in any way stopped by rage.

BTW another option is going Brawler rather than martial artist monk, but you would need 2 levels for flurry. OTOH, martial flexibility can be nice.

>>52391399
Well, I guess it's Something.

We still have plenty of time to share our worry about its power creep.

Any word on Scholar? Or is it still mediocre?

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>>52391433
Cool, thanks anon.

>>52391482
No problem!
One last thing: Deadly Aim, of course. Power Attack for archers, how could I forget.

>>52391329

This might cause a bit of a change in your build, but have you considered becoming an evangelist of Erastil with the feat chain for animal companion? Being able to duplicate your animal companion is wicked, and with the evangelist prestige class you get faster access to the Wis to Damage feature with longbows.

>>52391550
I chose Zen Archer as I wanted to make an absurdly accurate sniper type which I can get with Perfect Strike, however that feat chain is pretty damn cool. Maybe for a future character.

>>52391362
I guess there were cuter corruption dumps. Or he went full yaoi

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Which of the dex-based blade users do you think will make it into LoBaF?
>Shanan has a cool, sort of classic 'arabian nights' personality, and props to him for trying to pull off a swashbuckler.
>Rajima has a more straightforward, honorable personality that will likely facilitate teamwork, and she has good buffing and support capabilities, despite low damage.
>The Dunereach sounds just about as fun as Shanan, and fills the role of much needed skillmonkey. His damage potential is also pretty high, but he'll probably find it hard to get consistent kills once combat starts.
>Essa finds a sweet spot between hardass soldier and that Mulan vibe, which could make for interesting interactions between her and those not perceptive enough to find she's a woman. She seems more in line with a frontliner using dex than a true DPS, but she's got some utility alongside that as well.
Honestly these four are my favorite of the bunch for this campaign and I'm curious as to which has the best chance.

Is there any class that gets Nero's powers from DMC4?

>>52391653
unironically harbinger

>>52391653
Depends on the power in question.

If we're talking about his demon arm, then look at Avowed and the Aether Grasp shape. Meaning Avowed is probably the best way to mimic that.

His devil trigger is a different story though. Not to sure how to replicate that.

>>52391653
But if we're just talking DMC style crazy fighting skills, see >>52391667

>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDwotNLyz10

>>52391699
So youre saying Ill have to gestalt

>>52391653
Warder (fiendbound marauder) with a ranged discipline too?

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>>52391472

The scholar has received absolutely no changes so far, at least as far as I can tell.

It is rather insulting that Ssalarn expects a scholar to be an effective user of the Scout sphere despite scholars being Intelligence-based, not Dexterity- and/or Wisdom-based.

The scholar's one claim to fame is being a (costly) two-level dip for Intelligence-based attack rolls, though this does not help with damage rolls at all, unless you circumvent the matter entirely using the Alchemy sphere.

As it currently stands, an investigator (battered detective, empiricist) accomplishes the Intelligence-based skill monkey gimmick far more effectively.

>>52391580

Hmm, alright. I still think that the wis to damage is worth it, but without the evangelist it gets harder to get it. Deific obedience+ versatile obedience is imo still decent, since it accelerates the progression and lets you cherrypick features at each tier. so you can get the Archety spell-likes from sentinel, the summons from exalted and the wis to damage from evangelist. Still on the topic of deific obedience, the Sentinel gets an accelerated Weapon training-ish progression with their favored weapon, so if you are not sold on the Zen Archer's later feats it is an option. I would also have recommended the fighter variant multiclassing for weapon training, but armor training is no use on a zen archer.

For other feats, I would agree with clustered shots being great. I would also look at ranged trip/ranged disarm and their upgrades, ace trip/ace disarm if you want more utility options.

>>52391646
They're all getting in.
You're not though.

How would you plot your way so that 5 poor low level characters ,not evil, take advantage of an ongoing aristocratic conspiracy, form an army, and take over the kingdom?

>>52391646

Of those four, Shanan is the only one to have followed up on the GM's instructions to have a bit more than the bullet points, and his story is solid, so he's easily the best of them.

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What are you guys gonna apply to WWW with?

>>52392080
My rejected PLD app

>>52392102
but it won't even fit...

>>52392102

WHICH APP

>>52392080
!notNative American Brown Elf.
Probably Shaman or Vitalist. I just finished a character so I'll probably do it tomorrow.

When does the KSnH game open up for apps

>>52392137
>brown elf

Heavy breathing intensifies

>>52392074

The setting is too autistic and barely there to do more than bullet points.

Like some traits don't even make sense like earning your freedom, considering that enslavement is like 3 years at most unless you killed in cold blood with no justification in which case you're probably evil and not suitable for being a PC. Like three years nigga, just wait it out since being a slave is "safe" and "fair".

And finding art if you're earning your freedom is impossible since slaves have an autistic "shaved head with a side ponytail with an iron ball tied to it" haircut.

Like people bitch about Gamze, but we don't know about this Haleen, and Exhack at least tried to do stuff based around the character.

>>52392080
Will not apply to. If I got accepted, my schedule would go-Thursday: Wake up at 4:30 AM for a game, Friday: Stay up until 2 AM to get into WWW, play until morning, then at 11:30 PM that same day run my campaign. I don't think I can reasonably make such a schedule without completely draining myself.

>>52392227

Being a eurofag must be suffering

>>52392227
Sleep tight eurofag.

>>52392134
It was a private rejection. You'll find out Saturday

>>52392403

Sorry, Bon-bon.

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>>52392102

How does it feel to know that the current /pfg/ games and the next few /pfg/ games will be flooded with setting-adjusted PLD rejects?

>>52392209

Backstories must always make assumptions and make shit up. There's an implicit agreement between the player and GM that ideas can be adopted into the game or changed to suit it. On the other hand, the GM saying straight up "Do X" and people not doing it is a pretty clear red flag.

>>52392080

Probably nothing. How directly that GM took from Fallout (3?) turns me away. I'm guessing that he's planning to use it throughout his story but modified into a western, and I've already played that story before.

>>52392443
Fallout NV actually.

But I've talked with the GM and just heard that he really liked the way that game opened and thought it was a good opening for a campaign with a revenge theme.

>>52392209
> Corruption
> Multiple counts of grand larceny before capture
> Murder someone and became regretful.
> Murder for tragic reasons
> Being extra-heretical

Plenty of reasobs to be a slave without being a sociopath.

>>52392439
its not true because its not like games got flooded with rejected dragons apps or rotjr apps

>>52392478

That's because those came from good advertisements, the people PLD are sending are not their best people, they're freeloaders and rapists.

>>52392439

I'm banking on it.

I'm going to invite select pld rejects and see how they adjust

>>52392593
we have to build a wall

>>52392603

Which game is yours?

>>52392603
Youre a leech and a shitposter

When starfinder drops I'm running an AC game, and you're all invited. except (you).
Hope you're ready for war.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLEYYnCPm11coqUBqMgcGekO37Zkm9zQyn&params=EAEYATgBSAFYA2ILYW1DYWI3Mi02ekVoAQ%253D%253D&v=njZ8oCIX6hk&mode=NORMAL

>>52392893
What did I ever do to (you), you greedy bastard?

>>52392142
please respond

>>52392893
Well, I'm fucking excited. I've been wanting a proper mech game since Arcforge was announced (And subsequently botched)

>>52392923
Hello, anon.

>>52392952
when do apps open for that game
I haven't been this excited for a game in forever
>implying I'll be accepted

>>52392823

Not a leech if I wait until apps end.

>>52392703

Not posting until my writeups are done and pld apps end.

I'm not gonna be stealing pld's setting.

And it isn't theft if I'm inviting rejects.

>>52392142
KSnH?

>>52393035
Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon

>>52393060
?

>>52392893
i bet the rules for it will suck

i have no faith in paizo

>>52393146
S-some KSnHfag was going to run a GMT+8 game with political bullshit.

>>52393152
I'm not real hopeful either, but worst comes to worst I'll try and port some rules over from Mekton

>>52393167
i'll take 'things that won't happen for 500'

>>52393188
This popular anime will never get a season three.

>>52393188
;_________;

>>52393198
;;;;;;;___________________________;;;;;;;;;;

>>52393185

Just use Battle Century G.

>>52392893

I've already got an idea for what I'm making!

>>52393016
>I'm not gonna be stealing pld's setting.

Yeah, but if you're allowing direct implants of PLD characters than it shouldn't be too dissimilar?

>>52393016
You're still riding on someone elses success

>>52393371
PLD's setting is basically just Berserk.

What can people tell me about Numeria?

>>52393236
Macrophage please go.

>>52393388
>What can people tell me about Numeria?

It's a land of techno-barbarians fighting tech-fearing barbarians while Techpriests chant and experiment with extraterrestrial technology they can't even begin to fathom.

>>52393420
Okay, so who are the techno-barbarians and who are the tech-fearing barbarians?

>>52392080
I already applied. I just need to rewrite his backstory after I finish this other backstory first.

>>52393236
Just refluff Tenra Bansho Zero.

>>52393440

Centuries ago, a massive colony ship crashed into Numeria in an event known as the Rain of Stars, scattering tons and tons of debris across the countryside and littering the land with malfunctioning machines of both a technical and military bent.

Some of the local Kellid tribes embraced the technology, others have gone full Luddite and see it with the same fear and disgust a Christian might see a blood-drawn Pentagram.

The nation itself is ruled at Starfall, the capital built around the bulk of the colony ship and ruled by the Black Sovereign, a Kellid warleader who is dulled into idiocy and obedience by ship-found chemicals given to him by the Technic League, a society of people from around Avistan who *kind of* understand what the hell all this technology is, but only still understand it in the same way a bushman from the Amazon might "get" how a gun works after using it for a while.

>>52393371

Nah, it's gonna require some moderate retooling. Besides, there have been other reject-accepting games already (RotRK for instance).

>>52393499
Cool. So now I've got everything I need for The Silver Breaker. Tech wrecking, wolf and moon theme, Kellid barbarian leader type.

>>52393388

It's set far enough in the future that the world has gone through several cycles of stone age through super tech, and as a result the world is littered with remnants of ancient civilizations to such a degree that strange things from ancient times is commonplace, if still mysterious.

Thematically it strongly reminds me of Planescape. It tries very hard to be not mundane in every way.

> solve 5 captchas

Christ.

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Don't hide it from me, /pfg/.

Tell me about one of your characters who was rejected from a /pfg/ game that you still love. How would you repackage him or her for another game or AP?

>>52393573

What game is this character for? If it's Kingmaker, you might be interested in claiming this character's heritage as being from the Tiger Lords Kellid Clan.

http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Tiger_Lords

>>52393609

I've never been rejected.

I successfully get into any game i apply to.

>>52393609
but my characters have never been rejected

>>52393619
SwimmingEagle, go and stay go.

>>52393623

This. It's not hard, but most of /pfg/ is like under age 22 and has shit taste.

>>52393636

Try again

>>52393609

Honestly, the only reason I want to play the character that got rejected was because I like the story and personality he presents, more than the mechanics.

>>52393618
Well right now it's for Celestial Tournament. Switching over to another game would work, though really only a gestalt one, since having that cha to initiative, AC, Will, and Reflex is going to be really helpful. That tribe is definitely a possibility though.

>>52393609
I have perma death enabled on all my characters. If they're stillborn they don't get second chances.

>>52393644
>its not hard
Yes it is, by the very nature of the selection process.

>>52393729
>not ERPing with all the GMs to be guaranteed a slot
Literally what happened with Hell's Rebels AND now PLD.

>>52393236
or actually use Mekton.

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How do I play pic related? Are there any less-shitty alternatives to drake companions?

>>52393729
then how have i gotten into two games

>>52393188
>>52393167
Don't lose hope!

>>52393729

Most applications are BAD.

If you want to increase your chances of getting into a game:

1) Play a local. I see too many exotic foreigner applications.

2) Pick a role that isn't taken and has mostly bad applicants. Nobody ever wants to play the skillmonkey, generally.

3) Ask the GM what they think. Get to know the GM a bit, too.

>>52393743

>HR

Storytime?

>>52393761
Luck.Cronyism. Pick one

>>52393773
Most applications have lock backstories that are shit and tell me nothing about the character

Personality is so much more important.

>>52393609
I would not and have not. It feels dirty. it's one thing to give the basic class combo concept another shot, but a full character? Leaves a bad taste even just seeing them get reposted by other folks like that, usually with barely more than a word or two swapped for the new campaign

>>52393790
wasn't cronyism, and luck doesn't exist.

>>52393795
>Most applications have long backstories that are shit and tell me nothing about the character
I suffer from this. I write overly long backstories that don't really say anything. I'm trying to get better, but it's difficult to change your writing style.

>>52393785

2hu got into the HR Department because of nepotism.

>>52393785
2hu and the HR GM are e-fuckbuddies, so 2hu got in.

>>52393813
Seriously if your backstory is over 1 page long, its shit.

>>52393800
Assuming you are who I thin you are, it was. That and shilling.

>>52393836
Well i'm not swimmingeagle and I've never sucked DM dick to get into a game

So

>>52393820
And how do you define one page? I have a 4K monitor but keep my browsing windows small. Your one page could be three to me.

>>52393848
No. You're Broodie.

>>52393862
Sasuga

>>52393862
wtf I hate www now!

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Okay pfg, let's say I'm slowly gathering together ideas for a Starfinder custom setting. What are some time-honored space opera tropes you'd want to see?

>Unscrupulous and vaguely incompetent system-spanning megacorporation with huge mercenary army
>Religious robots
>Blue Space Babes

>>52393862
you have to modulate the shilling just right.

>>52393758
Paizo is scared of dragons, and will never ever write a class feature that lets you befriend one in a way that doesn't suck massive huevos.

If your GM is cool, you can just go get buddy-buddy with a dragon of sufficient age that it doesn't break the game over its knee with its CR. Otherwise you need 3rd party stuff or you're shit out of luck.

>>52393859
One page in MS word in a normal font font at 10-12pt size.

Have you never been to school?

>>52393911
>pfg
>not full of NEETS

>>52393911
>10-12pt font size
Dude that's microscopic! I type at 22pt. One page for me would be half a page for you. Maybe less. But nice eagle eye vision there. Way to eat your carrots.

>>52393911
>using MS word
Baka

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>>52393878

>mfw the Aspis Consortium and Lumber Consortium are going to be in Starfinder

>>52393940
>22 point font

GET SOME GLASSES

>>52393944
google docs then

>>52393758
Be a wizard and body-swap a dragon.

>>52393911
Double or single spaced?

>>52393940
You're a weirdo.

>>52393862
How the fuck do you not recognize Disk?

>>52393926
>Tfw almost got into a pfg have if not for my non-neet schedule

>>52393950
>google docs then
HAHAHAHAHAHA oh fucking shit he seriously doesn't use a word processor for civilized people

>>52393959
is it broodie or disk

what all has disk applied to.

>>52393940
>Being legally blind.
Are you Asian or something?

>>52393940

12 pt.

Double-spaced.

Times New Roman.

>>52393974
Ok nigger what do you use

>>52393993
Probably Open Office.

I have a +10 to spellcraft, a GM that allows other casters to assist in crafting, craft Wondrous Items, two weeks, and 20,000gp to work with. The party of 7 has almost 0 magic items (5th level btw). What do I Craft?

>>52393949
Whyyyyy.

How has a damn lumber company lasted this long and how have they stayed relevant in outer fucking space?

I don't think I've ever seen a space station made out of wood, for SOME strange reason...

>>52394001
>open office

toppest of keks

>>52393974
/g/ please take your freeware autism and go.

>>52393790

>luck

WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN

Applications are done by merit, there's no RNG.

>>52393993

Inb4 muh gnu/linux libreoffice

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>>52393878
Token adorable aliens that are trying to fit in with the rest of the universe.

>>52394005
>he hasn't seen that episode of Deep Space Nine with the wooden Bajoran starship

>>52393993
Emacs -> TeX.

>>52394001
Openoffice is irredeemable trash. It is 100% "MS word but shittier, slower, less full featured and more buggy".

>>52394014
Speak for yourself. SwimmingEagle made something like six teams of possible applicants and rolled to decide which one got picked.

>>52393978
Funny story. I went to a parochial school for high school, so it was 99% white guys. First time I went to a math team meet, and it's all Asians. We were the only non-Asians in the room. I go to my seat, I'm seated across from a guy, I look up at him, he looks up at me, and I ask him. "Why are you squinting at me?"

I only later realized that he wasn't.

>>52394034
>Emacs

Ok actual caveman.

>>52394035
i bet some characters were definitely in and the teams were randoms to fill out the party.

>>52394042
You can do literally everything in emacs faster than you can do it in Word, and if you use the little plugins for TeX you can have it come out all pretty too. Nobody in university uses MS Word for their reports unless you're a history / literature / etc. major who can arguably use MS Word or unless you want points off for shitty style and looking ugly as fuck.

>>52394042
t. it just werks applel pro

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>>52394035
>MFW half the team that got picked were there just because their names involved roar

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>>52393878
A non-humanoid race of masses of slimy tentacles who really are just swell folks that just happen to look intimidating. Friendly, and good to have around your ship as they can reach, grab, and lift all sorts of things for you.

>>52394036
You poor fool.

>>52394034
>Openoffice
>Irredeemable

Why must you hurt me in this way?

>>52393878
That one guy famous for being willing to sleep with just about any alien.Come on, you know the guy. Everyone knows the guy.

>>52394003
Get 6/7 either A +1 bracer of armor or +1 cloak of resistance. They'll each take a day and 500gp. Then you can craft 4 +2 stat items in the remaining 8 days assuming someone in the party has the appropriate spell. All in all that's 10,000gp of your 20,000gp starting total. Spend that on bags of holding, Traveler's Any Tool, rings of sustenance, and Misc supplies you'll need. If you have a Scroll scribing character they'll easily chew through 1,000gp per day scribing scrolls.

>>52394063
Kill yourself you lying shit

>>52394077
>>52394078
>>52394080
36:15
36:14
36:15
hmm.....

>>52394082
He just made this disgusted noise and never looked at me again.
>>52394095
Thanks nu-moot.

>>52394078
Do you think that means Calsi, Liozis, and Rinka were in no matter what? Since they have nothing to do with the word Roar?

>>52394094
>not writing your reports in LaTeX
Tell me what your major was anon
Then tell me what school you went to so I know it's bad.

>>52394082
>Why must you hurt me in this way?
It's just the truth anon. It's sad but it's true. Openoffice has nothing at all over MSO, and it's not even really a good stand-in.

>>52394005
>How has a damn lumber company lasted this long and how have they stayed relevant in outer fucking space?

They won't be harvesting Lumber in Starfinder, they'd be mining asteroids and planets and extracting rare gasses from gas giants!

I meant more the idea of this large, powerful corporation that strips entire systems dry in pursuit of profit. That is the Lumber Consortium in Pathfinder, while the Aspis Consortium would be more of the sinister "We're Evil" corporation driven to plunder ancient tombs or primitive worlds.

>>52394119
>writing reports

What am I gay?

>>52394126
>he "went to school" but he didn't write a thesis or do any research reports in any classes
Literally how did you graduate?

>>52394126

No, just unemployed, obviously

>>52394126
Let us know how that Gender Studies degree is working out for you.

>>52394003
Why Is nobody replying? Is /pfg/ even related to pathfinder questions anymore?

>>52394003
Useful cheapo items you could pump out for anybody include Boots of the Cat, Quick Runner's Shirt (check with your DM to see if you can use the pre-errata version), Jingasa of the Fortunate Soldier (same as with the Quick Runner's Shirt), Traveler's Any-Tool, Sleeves of Many Garments or Hats of Disguise, Gloves of Reconnaissance, and Handy Haversacks. You also can't go wrong with Cloaks of Resistance +X, Rings of Protection +X, and belts or headbands that bump up a character's primary ability scores. These will probably eat up most of your 20K, and you should be okay with that.

Now, the two weeks to work with is going to be a bit of a problem, since that's really not a lot of time. But keep in mind that you can craft faster if you raise the crafting DC by 5, and also consider using the spell Keep Watch to stay away crafting all night long once your party returns to their regularly scheduled adventuring after those two weeks.

Also keep in mind that you CAN take 10 on spellcraft checks to craft magic items.

>>52394122
Well that makes more sense, but I hope they change their name to fit their new line of business. You always gotta have evil megacorps in any sci-fi space setting though, and they do fit the bill.

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>>52393878

Rogue military division dedicated to their own esoteric goals after discovering and either being corrupted by Ancient Evil, or trying to stop Ancient Evil using abhorrent means.

Man, I always just use notepad++ and then dump the text into any advanced editor to pretty it up afterwards. If things get longer or more complicated I open more tabs and splice them together later.

>>52394152

No, crafting is just autistic

>>52394151
>>52394149
>>52394145
>being this plebian

>>52394152
You came at a bad time, pal, and with a question most people expect you to know the answer to already.

>>52394126
Even fucking philosophy majors write papers. Economics majors sometimes write papers from their first semester. Polisci, History, Mathematics, and the hard sciences literally build their careers off reports and papers. Even computer science usually has at least one or two in addition to their graduation project. Unironically what the fuck did you study?

>>52394195
Unironically i've never met someone so autistic as to actually write in emacs unless literally forced to

>>52394166
Best trope. Even better if they're the heroes.
Semi-related note, you wouldn't happen to have a source for that image, would you? Futuristic PDWs and AR heads up displays make me hard. So does power armor.

>>52394122

>Sinister organization driven to plunder ancient tombs and primitive worlds

So, a second Pathfinder Society?

>>52394207
>He's never been to /g/

>>52394218
>going to /g/ by choice

>>52394210
>when you realize the protagonists were the villains all along

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>>52393878
A robotic race that pilots robots and use those robots to pilot even bigger robots. And then use THOSE robots to pilot an even bigger robot.

>>52394209
http://proxygreen.deviantart.com/art/Cyber-trooper-7-359950677

Here ya go, you lil shit.

>>52394163
>You always gotta have evil megacorps in any sci-fi space setting though, and they do fit the bill.

Evil megacorporations come in all shapes and sizes, are we talking the type that's massive, incompetent and clearly doing the Evil Thing because they want the shiny shit, or the megacorporation that is clearly cognizant of their own vileness and willing to build their entire business off of backstabbing and genocide?

OmniConsumer Products vs. Atlas Corporation, in other words. Or the corporation from Titanfall.

>>52394207
You use emacs, vim, or notepad++ because it's notepad but better and there's no reason to use Word just for the writing section of any work, since Word is for formatting and prettifying, and you use TeX bcause it's better than Word at making shit pretty.

>to actually write in emacs
Yes well anon
Do you know of the editor war?

>>52394195
And most of those people will use MS Office because it comes prepackaged and despite what you might think, it's not actually worth it for the vast majority of people to install a new operating system.

>>52394253
The editor war is more autistic than all of /g/ together.

>>52394258
whoa whoa, don't shatter his preconceptions of people using emacs and vim and notepad++, next thing you'll tell him is that nobody but the absolutely most autistic group of comp sci majors even uses those.

Realistically, most of the people who use them are the comp sci people even other comp sci people don't want to associate with.The kind that jerk off to pictures of linus.

>>52394003
+10 to spellcraft will mean you may not be able to make all take 10 checks solo, meaning that your overall crafting speed may be heavily lowered.
Get an Armillary Amulet for each member that has the crafting feats, then focus on getting +1 weapons for the martials, headbands of +X for the casters and cloaks of resistance

>>52394258
You do realize that TeX can be installed on Windows and (pretty sure it's also a thing for) Mac right? I can understand not using emacs unless you're used to it because well Escape-Control-Alt-Meta-Shift(-Super) is kind of obnoxious for new users and most people don't need it, but literally everyone I meet who cares about getting a score over 60 will use LaTeX for their reports. In fact some professors will actively tell you to fuck off if you don't use it.

>>52394279
comp sci people don't use editors, they tend to use IDEs unless they're working on tiny-ass personal projects less than 500 lines long.

>>52394245
Personally, I think the first is more interesting and fun to have in a setting, especially if its run by space-goblins. Does Starfinder have space-goblins? I'll be disappointed if it doesn't.

The second type of megacorp is important to have so that your players know these guys will fuck them up though.

>>52394302
this is the funniest shit i've ever read

>>52394313
t. community college pro

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>>52394209

I've got all sorts of art in preparation for Starfinder! Mostly ships.

>>52394210

There's a difference.

The Aspis Consortium is a conglomerate of legitimate businesses enhanced by kill-teams of semi-autonomous agents with plausible deniability to their true employers. They would be the Weyland-Yutani of Starfinder.

The Pathfinder Society is an explicit adventuring organization staffed by card-carrying members who send all their findings to the clearly signed Society buildings present in whatever settlement is closest to the ruins. They would be the Spacer's Guild of Starfinder.

>>52394302
Sir i don't know where you go to college but if you go and talk to the average college student at like.. any university, they do not know what LaTeX even is

>>52394314
t. autistic /g/ poster who doesn't talk to real people

>>52394320
>they do not know what LaTeX even is

I'm sure most college students know the importance of latex, anon.

>>52394302
Honestly, it sounds like you only speak to yourself. I have gone to 4 years of college and am in grad school. My older brother and sister have both gone through grad school. My younger sister is in college. None of us, nor anyone I've ever met, has ever used TeX.

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>>52394330
ayyy

>>52394310

It has goblins, but they're pathfinder goblins, so they're nothing but vermin to the galaxy at large.

>>52394310
>Does Starfinder have space-goblins?

I'm going to imagine the Rat race are the money-driven PC race in Starfinder.

>>52394003
Start yourself off by making an item that boosts your spellcraft. I think there's some kind of crystal ball or whatever out there that boosts spellcraft but I can't remember the name. If you can't find it, ask your DM to let you make a custom item, I guess. An item that gives +5 to a particular skill would be worth 2,500 GP, or half that to craft.

>>52394338
maybe people used it in the fucking 1980s or someshit, what the fuck

Its [CURRENT YEAR], they all use google docs or whatever word processor comes packaged with their laptop.

>>52394320
>I don't know where you go to college
Cornell -> U Tokyo. People who want to be a professional in...basically anything...are not going to be writing their reports in Word. In fact I don't believe you - I've talked to kids from motherfucking Malaysian universities and the most bumfuck nowhere colleges like Ohio State and they use LaTeX.

>>52394338
What major? I've said that there are some fields that arguably don't need TeX, but economics, physics, polisci, mathematics, chemistry, etc. almost always write in TeX. I've almost never seen exceptions.

>>52394330
>most

lel

Try "people in the math department"

>>52394370
>Jews in space
Every fucking time.

>>52394370
I WONDER WHO IS BEHIND THIS POST

I've never heard of LaTeX. Most profs just wanted a PDF, and they didn't care how we went about it. I'd always just dump my report into google docs and then export it.

>>52394375
Bitchshit look at literally any professionally released report in the sciences or economics, they don't look like they're written in Word. Do you know what LaTeX formating looks like, because if you've never seen it it's understandable to not notice.

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>>52394317
>a conglomerate of legitimate businesses enhanced by kill-teams of semi-autonomous agents with plausible deniability to their true employers.

Don't know why, but this sentence makes me hard and really want to build a Mr. Johnson for my first Starfinder campaign.

Preferably one who's a skittish little shit who hides his apathy towards the vile actions of The Company through cowardice.

>>52394385
the joke was condoms anon

>>52394379
English, History, Agriculture, Pre-Med.

>>52394399
>>52394379
Maybe thats just what people tell you so your stuttering autistic unwashed ass will get away from them.

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>>52393878

>>52394390
Can confirm, all they want is a PDF.

>>52394399
>bitchshit
wh-what?

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If I wanted to play Not!Geralt, should I go with Alchemist? If so, what archetype?

>>52394408
Do you expect autists to know anything about condoms?

>>52394028
>
gods that episode was retarded

>>52394437

Not!Geralt would be a Slayer, mmmaybe an Investigator.

>>52394441
the joke was the non-autistic college students know latex is important, in the form of condoms.

>>52394409
Is that a quad major or something? The hell?
And yeah, while I don't know about premed or agriculture, I can see English / history majors not touching LaTeX, they don't really need it.

>>52394417
>go to a random uni website
>click on economics, mathematics, physics, whatever department
>look at the latest reports
>it's LaTeX'd
Wew.

>>52394082
I know that guy.
James Tiberius.... something.

>>52394441
Are you calling people who know what LaTeX is autistic or people who don't know what LaTeX is autistic
Because it kind of sounds like you're confused

>>52394466
reports on what?

What are you going on about

Who uses the term 'reports' anyways,

Nobody calls them reports

>>52394399
t. somebody who has never submitted a manuscript to a peer reviewed publication

>>52394464
Investigator does get mutagens and alchemy, so that seems more fitting.

>>52394464
Slayer can't brew potions and stuff, though.
Alchemy is a pretty big aspect of being Not!Geralt, no?

Investigator seems an alright choice, however. I'll look into it.

>>52394466
That's 4 different people with 4 different majors.

>>52394466
the only reason to use TeX is if you need equations in the paper, otherwise use something else.

A lot of shit doesn't use TeX.

>>52394514
You don't even need that anymore, there are TeX-like plugins for google docs and shit that solve that problem. Far better for most students.

Even then, using Emacs into TeX is autism above autism.

>Local group crumbled down to a 2-man
>Absolutely nobody wants to join
Time to jump into text-based online games for me, boys.
Any beginner tips? Etiquette advice? Red flags to look out for when searching for games?

>>52394536
believe in yourself

most /pfg/ games are better than your average roll20 game

There's plenty open now

>>52394552

This is only the case if you're into erp.

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>>52394166
Makes you wonder how simple it would run a pic related campaign in Starfinder

>>52394564
I am not interested in ERP whatsoever.

>>52394564
literally only PLD is the hard ERP game, even Dragons/Dragons2 are just funnily lewd.

like WWW doesn't look like its going to be ERP at all unfortunate because i want to fuck the doll

>>52394578

Let's be real: you aren't getting into a lewdgame if you aren't putting out or giving the impression you'll put out.

>>52394483
I mean stuff like "Analysis of Chinese Economic Growth and future projections", "Predictions of Jovian deep atmospheric structure based on magnetospheric readings", stuff like that.

>>52394514
Right but in that case it's not even about Word or TeX anymore. Most things you don't use TeX for, besides seriously specialized stuff, you can do in Notepad++ and copy-paste into a PDF. And TeX looks prettier anyway.

>>52394532
Emacs is faster for me and I used to use it because I was stuck on a machine from the 90s for half a decade. It has a retarded learning curve, I think it's better once you know how to use it, but even if you don't use emacs TeX is better just for looking good.

>google docs
I see literally no advantage to google docs. If you're going to use a WYSIWYG word processor you might as well go for the actually good one, i.e. MS Word. The TeX-like plugins are like the equation editors in recent Word editions, they look like ass.

>>52394565

Anon, the fact Starfinder is a sci-fi game makes pic related possible. It makes everything from "scrappy rebels fighting against the cruel megacorporation" to "intrepid explorers colonizing new worlds and banging hot locals" possible.

An infinite world of possibilities await us, brother. I'm glad I could share this glorious dawn with you.

>>52394514
Even then, MathType has you covered. In my academic experience, Word is much preferred due to its ubiquity and ability to track changes across multiple authors during editing. TeX is only useful for long documents like dissertations that give Word serious problems.

>>52394597
Google Docs has huge advantages for collaboration, you can real-time write docs with multiple people, its really useful for that.

>>52394606
the ubiquity of word makes it probably the most used for the average paper

This discussion has reinforced a truth everyone has taken for granted.

Arguments about processors and math is done by the same people who love sci-fi.

>>52394578
Well, the person that applied with the doll also had applied for PLD.

>>52394620
I miss the discussion on the quality of apps and backstory

>>52394606
>long documents
Lad I don't know about you but in my academic experience, papers less than about 20-30 pages long are a rarity, and most of them are 40-60+.

>>52394616
Yeah but for collaboration, like do you literally write the paper with other people or something? Because that's not what I usually do, it's collaboration, me writing the first 30% of the paper and the last 5% and you writing the midle 45% and some other guy writing the patches on the side.

>>52394639

This is good autism, anon. Stop.

>>52394641

Tell me about your Starfinder character ideas!

>>52394577
you're fine, just apply to games

Anyone got all the LFGs for the currently recruiting /pfg/ games?

>>52394653
you can literally write it with other people, all editing the same doc at the same time

Its pretty awesome

>>52394639
Go away Discord cabal, we were having legitimate conversations for once.

>>52393758

The betrothed archetype of the avowed could do it with some reasonable standard by level 1, just be dragon pact.

>>52394669
>legitimate conversations

>autistic screeching about word processors.

>>52394656
Anon it's time to put the keyboard down. Just relax, let's talk about pathfinder.

>>52394674

It's called "loosening up" anon, this is basically foreplay that gets the Bad Stuff out of your system so we can go back to other stuff.

>>52394667
No no no I know the capabilities of G-Docs. I haven't had a chance to use it much because one of my collaborators is a Chinese researcher (hurr), but my limited experiences with it aren't really great. It's good for brainstorming, I guess, but a livechat and one of those notetaking softwares is good enough for that.

>>52394641
>quality of apps and backstory
When has this ever happened, besides one anon going "all apps for ____ are shit!"

>>52394674
Yeah? What's wrong with that? People need word processors to write their settings, or guides, or ideas, or whatever. I'd say it's more relevant than most of the shitposting done these days.

>>52394691
it has a livechat built in too

When you collaborate a bunch, its basically the best for real-time work

>>52394667
>>52394653
>me writing the first 30% of the paper and the last 5% and you writing the midle 45% and some other guy writing the patches on the side.
*not* me...

>>52393758
>>52394670

To clarify, the "drake" could be gotten at level 1, but it can't fly until level 6.

You can fluff it as a medium-sized juvenile that mechanically grows to large at level 6 and gains flying size by level 6, however.

Here is the link to the material:

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?509440-Forrestfire-Studios-Playtest-The-Avowed-a-3pp-warlock-with-a-psychic-bent

I hate Starfinder but if they don't fuck up mechs then I'll try it at least.

>>52394714
Yeah but like
That's the thing
It's good for taking notes and brainstorming. For the actual final publications? Not so much. Packaging your findings so it looks pretty and organized is much easier when you leave it to one guy on TeX and look it over for wording problems and stuff.

>>52394741
no but for the average college student's essay or a small group project its fine, its not like its going into any fucking journals or anything

>>52394695
Right before the processor autism started, we were talking about what makes a good application.

But then some post-grad autistic forgot that most undergrad students are fuck boys with MacBook pros and use Google docs or Microsoft word.

>>52394653
>Lad I don't know about you but in my academic experience, papers less than about 20-30 pages long are a rarity, and most of them are 40-60+.
In my experience Word works fine until you start hitting the 100 page mark or so. But I'm in a STEM field where nobody wants to look at a 30+ page document unless it's a review paper or thesis.

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>>52394122

>Massive corporate arks built to extract, process and refine raw materials into finished goods, with enough firepower and onboard mercs to wage a small war

Anon, stop.

>>52393758
If you're using spheres and are a spherecaster, you could take bound companion for a dragon companion. Pretty sure you can take the boon twice for it, though it's janky as fuck.

betrothed Avowed is a fucking meme, you're two halves instead of a dynamic duo.

>>52394695
Reviews of, advice for, and dissection of Pathfinder character apps are all fine to have in a Pathfinder thread. We've have that before.

>>52394765

Stop? But Anon, there's so much profit to be made!

>>52394759
That's weird
Like, every single one of my projects in undergrad were 50 pages long. There was no such thing as a 'small essay', it was either the real thing or just a normal crunch week final.

>>52394764
I'm in STEM too, but when you're in STEM it's a lot easier to just use LaTeX because you're going to be inserting equations and charts / diagrams anyway.

>>52394808
>every single project was 50 pages long

Hahahahah nigga what

>>52394808
Confirmed for 50 page backstory apps

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>>52394792

We pre-necromorph Dead Space now?

Or pre/post-war Halo UNSC. I'm addicted to the industrial corporate aesthetic.

>>52394808
What chinkhouse college did you go to nigger?

>>52394639

F!!!!!

>>52394843
why don't we have any cute chubby apps for any game

why live.

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>>52394843
Now this is real shitposting.

>>52394816
I had 3 projects in undergrad
The first one was some dumb economic projection on the the future of the Eurozone
The second was a report on American IPE.
The last one was my undergrad thesis, particle physics.
Anyway /blog.

>>52394824
It's usually half a page and another quarter with personality actually. I can't think of a reason you'd need a fucking massive backstory for your character unless you're pulling a Henderson or it's one of those super lore-heavy games.

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>>52393815
>>52393819

It's true, we e-fuck all the time, we're e-fucking right now. You can't stop us cis-scum.

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>>52394825

Part of me wants to dump everything I have (a sort of Starfinder "starter pack",) but at the same time the thread hasn't even reached the post limit.

>>52394880
STOP RIGHT THERE CIS-SCUM

Game where a team of emacsfags have to fight against a team of vifags WHEN?????

>>52394825
You know, I don't know any specifics about how Starfinder works. Does it have magic items, tech items that are just magic items with new fluff, or magic and tech?

And more importantly, should a Marker be a magic artifact or a tech item?

>>52394893
fucking never hopefully

>>52393770
has that guy disappeared or something
I just want muh Great Game in my roleplaying game

>>52394872
>I had 3 projects in undergrad
>The first one was some dumb economic projection on the the future of the Eurozone
>The second was a report on American IPE.
>The last one was my undergrad thesis, particle physics.
Okay, so two economics papers and an actual STEM document that was a thesis. This makes much more sense now.

>>52394885

We're pretty close, and good sci-fi pics are sexy dynamite. Go for it, sunshine.

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>>52394910
>should a Marker be a magic artifact or a tech item?

The answer is yes.

The Marker is a tech item so advanced it might as well be magic.

As for magic itself? It's implied magic still exists, but it's less Merlin and more Jedi.

>>52394912
I think he said he doesn't have time right now but he'll open up an app when he finds time
In other words: goldenface.png

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>>52394937

Yes!

when's starfinder dropping

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>>52394943
>goldenface.png
Don't do this to me.

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>>52394965

August, I think? It's close enough to make custom settings, but not close enough to actually start writing up backstories.

>>52394885
I'm willing to do my part to shitpost us to autosage for this!

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>>52394982

Why is Dead Space so good for art?

>>52394910

Tech is taking the fore, but magic is still around. Crafting is apparently much less of a clusterfuck, though.

>>52394939
So like what, Bard casting-like at best? Or is it closer to Shadowrun magic?

What's better for a ranger's hunter bond? animal companion or team buff?

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>>52395019

It's literally too early to tell, I'm sorry I can't answer better.

>>52394939
>The Marker is a tech item so advanced it might as well be magic.

Isn't that how all tech items in Pathfinder (and presumably Starfinder) are though? Is a Marker particularly more complicated than most of the tech items in Pathfinder?

>>52394996
Because they do space opera really well and then ruin it by slathering jump-scare filled pseudo-horror on top.

>>52395019

Thus far, all we know is that all magic is spontaneous, and the magic classes cap at sixth.

>>52395027
Always the Animal Companion.

>>52395027

The team buff is a little unimpressive, but it is certainly low maintenance

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>>52395041

>mfw every single Caldari ship is perfect for the setting's primary Megacorporation

>>52395027
Animal Companion. After you get Hunter's Bond for your team, the buff doesn't scale until you get 15th level, and even then it's only against your best Favored Enemy.

>>52395049
So...a Magus?

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>>52395041
>and then ruin it

I wouldn't say they ruin it, because the entire point of the game is jump-scare space horror. It's not a game about crunching numbers and writing reports.

It's sorta like with the UNSC in Halo; Humanity has all this cool shit happening before and after the Covenant War that you're left with this feeling that you just want to explore the setting *without* a galactic apocalypse dangling over your head.

>>52393167
>>52392142
>>52393770
>>52394912
>>52394967
What game are you guys talking about? Did the DM bail or something, I don't remember a game like this.

>>52395108
Except for the fact that the Human-Covenant war was the only well written conflict in the Halo series that didn't happen at a tech level that Starfinder would never support. Everything before the conflict is fair game I suppose, but postwar Halo is awful.

>>52395102

I think magical mêlée man is an option, but I don't think it's quite the one trick pony magus ended up being.

At least, I hope it isn't.

>>52395200
>one trick pony
I'm a pretty shit PF player and haven't had the chance to play Magus yet. How is it a one-trick pony? Was thinking of playing one next time.

You guys ready to get o e PLD acceptance a day over this week?

Vult will have his revenge

>>52395227
It literally spends all day full attacking with intensified shocking grasp

>>52395227
Oh boy here come the Magus autists, ready your booty, boyo

>>52393758
DHB's Wyvern Rider might help you.

>>52395253
Hush, child, the adults are speaking and none of us care about that shit game.

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>>52395253

Why should I care about how gets into that rape game?

>>52395271
[Sounds of reeeeee and the roar of motorcycles getting closer]

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>>52395284
Because you're a disappointment.

>>52393609
i wont

>>52395317

Tough talk coming from a skeleton.

>>52395227
It's sort of like the monk, in that you have this image of a fluid lightly armored magic fighter dancing across the battlefield with a sword in one hand and fire in the other, but it totally fails at that, since PF combat doesn't go well with movement, and you end up casting Arcane Mark, 5 foot stepping, and attacking.

>>52393875
I don't speak nip, what does this mean?

>>52395331

Good job, or well-played.

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>>52395322
A skelletong that's been drinking his milk!

>>52395227
People call it a one trick pony because everybody expects you to go DEX-based Dervish Dance with Intensified Shocking Grasps that you cast off 1st level slots thanks to Magical Lineage. I think the class has more tricks than that, like Frostbite with Rime Spell and Enforcer, and you really don't even HAVE to lock yourself into specializing one trick if you don't want to.

>>52395271
>>52395294
I'm revving my motorcycle and pulling out my trading cards. Get ready to face the Card Caster Magus in a duel!

>>52395281
Just keep telling yourself that this thread won't turn to absolute shit

>>52395326
At least you get to draw dicks on your enemies' faces?

>>52394437
That one Ratfolk archetype for Fighters that gives them Alchemical abilities

Did we ever get this months books from Leak Anon?

>>52395322
An Epic skeleton with at least five free casts of Wish that can override DM fiat and 30+ summons per day and a touch attack that fucks with your ability scores with no save.

>>52395326
>>52395261
>>52395348
I-is it not possible to just play it as a slightly shittier wizard who can also punch people?

>>52395355
Does anyone actually do this?

>>52395382
Sure, I played a STR-based Magus without Magical Lineage and it worked out fine for me. I think I had the lowest number of deaths over the course of the campaign out of all the PCs, actually, not to mention one of the higher damage outputs. I used a bastard sword and not fists, though.

>>52395227
See >>52395261

Also
>Str builds get Weapon variety, but get shit on for armor until level 7-13 or so
>Dex builds got errata'd down to scimitar only
>Shocking Grasp is quite literally the only efficient damage spell, barring electricity resistance
>Other spells are either just the same but worse, situational as fuck (frostbite), or trash (whatever the fire touch attack was)
>Arcane Pool enhancement is highly limited unless you expand it, but that boats the price and only gnomes out of ALL FUCKING RACES get access to more abilities without increasing the point cost
>Spell selection a shit outside of your bread and butter spells that every magus WILL TAKE, no contest
>Archetypes are often cool as fuck but trash, barring some exceptions

>>52395408
>Bastard sword
My homie

Which of the sphere archetypes are actually good? I know a lot of people hate the ranger and paladin.

>looking at RotRK
>notice DHB edited his app after deadline
>added a theme song
>added a theme song despite not getting in
>it's Twisted Sister's I am (I'm me)
>https://youtu.be/ejihzALlriE