Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for the nu-40k grand alliance of ostentatious bull shit.

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Asking again, anyone know any helmets like pic related for one of my Custodes?

>>52363260
first for cypher

also link for custode codex

REAL NEW THREAD
>>52363016
REAL NEW THREAD
>>52363016
REAL NEW THREAD
>>52363016

>>52363330
A banshee head with some greenstuff could work

>>52363330
Closest I can think of are some of the white lion heads in aos but you'll have to do some sculpting even with those.

>>52363358
No, that's the /pol/ thread with memes in the OP. Screw that.

>>52363358
Yeahhhhhh...no, here's fine.

Firs' fer orkz!

>>52363401
>salty groggy

CROSS-THREAD DRIFT POSTING

Does the Yncarne follow Yvraine around?

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So while IA14 is taking a comfortably long time to arrive (just started playing Mech, so got a few things to paint before more temptations appear), what cool shit can you tack onto an Admech list? Psykers, tarpits and flyers seem to be what they're lacking. Some Inquisition, perhaps?

How do we make ogryns, bullgryns, and especially melee bullgryns not massively overpriced pieces of shit?

A unit with no ranged attack, a 4+/5++, and a mediocre ability to actually inflict wounds should not be 60 fucking points per model. You can't even effectively stuff them in transports because they're Very Bulky.

Re-reposting in hopes of getting maybe a few suggestions.

Currently sitting on ~20 Marines with various Power Weapons and Chainswords, roughly as many Bolter Dudes with a handful of Heavy/Special Weapons, 10 Scouts, a Dreadnought, a Rhino, a Drop Pod, 2 LRCs, a Command Squad and a unit of assault terminators as well as Grimaldus and the Emperor's Champion.

Was wondering what else my Black Templars could possibly need in tthe forseeable future to cover most of my bases other than their own codex, good rules and an improved assault rules.

>>52363358
Stop being a faggot and kys already

>>52363482
By reducing their points costs.

But that would be a problem seeing how expensive the models are.

But that never stopped people praising mek gunz and converting their own if they're not prepared to buy the real thing.

>>52363473
Inquisition is cool. Vanguards with a Rad-Grenade Inquisitor is fun as fuck. Nothing quite like T2 Space Marines in melee.

New Sisters of Silence and Culexus Assassins also look really fucking helpful to take care of any Psykers, since AdMech is still lacking on that department. Really surprised they have no "Psy-Scrambler Cogitators" relic or something that gives Adamantium Will.

Fliers I personally wouldn't bother with, since they're a pretty expensive investment for no big reward. Psykers, on the other hand, are obviously always welcome and a huge fucking help.

>>52363523
Both Ogryns and Scions need to be reduced in pts and sold in larger boxes. They'd basically taken cool units, given them solid models, then packaged/statted them in a way that makes buying and using them require you to be a masochist.

>>52363523
Sydonian Dragoons are 45 points and cost almost as much as an Onager Dunecrawler (if not more, not sure on the exact price), so you can disregard the cost - price comparison.

>>52363551
Some kind of "purifying tech psalms" that boots deny or even just relic plating would

>>52363551
>Vanguards with a Rad-Grenade Inquisitor is fun as fuck.

Didn't rad toughness reducing get FAQ'd as being unable to stack?

>>52363577
I bought 6 of them because I hate my wallet

>>52363485
There's nothing really BT centric that is really left to get. You could probably do with longer ranged support, like a Predator but that isn't really an auto include.

>>52363586
AFAIK that only counts for the same instance of the rad effect. Pretty sure Vanguards and Grenades use different rules.

>>52363586
There's nothing in the Skitarii faq that mentions the rad toughness reduction, it just mentions that multiple luminagen wounds don't stack, though luminagen does stack with an omnispex.

>>52363523
Mek guns are legit good, though. Ogryn/bullgryn are, well...not. Not for that point cost, not in a million years. Maybe if they were half that, or even 25 points. They're inferior to assault termies in literally every way except wounds, and the saves and cost difference easily balances that out.

It's a big fat 'fuck you' to anyone who actually wants to have a little assault as Guard. Your only melee unit is 600(!) points for ONE squad of TEN.

And the models are just retardedly expensive, yes.

>>52363575
Scions aren't so bad pointwise, maybe a smidge too expensive. Five for $5 more than ten guardsmen is highway robbery though, there's probably less actual plastic in the Scions box overall.

So, in what ways can we buff Orks and Tyranids?

>>52363646
Chargers going first would be helpful.

>>52363646
>inb4 shit buffs are proposed that don't address any issues at all

My personal favourite is the Mob size = fearless coming back but everyone forgetting it only makes Boys better, and boys are absolutely shit as it is.

>>52363660
That's happening

>>52363551
So seeing as there's pretty much always a couple Librarians or something similar in my local meta, either some Inquisitors to counterspell and Telepath/Divine some stuff, or a Culexus to say Fuck You to all the Guilliman Conclaves I keep seeing now?
Seriously, last weekend I saw four grey or primed blue Rowboats, and three had two or more Librarians buffing him. Doesn't help we're on 4x4 boards, so you can't really dodge him well. I'm at least about to move from my current shitty bungalow into a house with proper space, so maybe I can make a proper nerdcave game room with a table.

Anyway, Culexus or Inquisitors? Or possibly both, since Coteaz is amazing. Is 255 points for Culexus and Coteaz too much for support characters at 1.5k or 2k?

>>52363664
That's the joke

>>52363523
Mek Gunz are perhaps the best unit in the Ork Codex. Give them a Bik Mek in Mega Armor and you effectively have relentless S8 T7 multiwound Plasma Cannons.

>>52363683
I mean, it does help them. How the fuck does it make sense that a giant squad of boys don't go first when they charge.

You have ten seconds

To create five new factions/armies for Chaos

>>52363678
If you want to suppress several Psykers at once, I'd actually stick to a full 300 point Sisters of Silence formation, in that case. 27" of FUCK YOU is pretty nice when fighting Psykers like that.

Otherwise, I'd say Culexus. Inquisitor(s) seems like a less reliable option.

>>52363705
Chaos gretchin
Chaos necrons
Chaos penis
Chaos vagina
Chaos eldar

>>52363646
>Orks

Use the old Mob Rule, it was simple and useful, also make GorkaMorkaNauts Superheavy Walkers and give all their weapons a lower AP value or more shots.

>Tyranids

Better Instinctive Behaviour so they dont kill themselves.

>>52363663
>tfw run Trukk Boyz
Pls no

>>52363705
>Dark Admech
>Chaos Orks
>Chaos Eldar
>Sons of Malice
>Malal Daemonkin

What would you say it better, boyz with a slugga and choppa or a shoota?

>>52363646
In 7th don't bother. Just get used to reaching for your ankles.

In 8th. Damned if I know we know just enough to trigger curiosity. But we know only 4 details and that's not enough to figure out how Orks will perform or how to buff them or if they need.

>>52363779
Obviously Nobs in a 'Naut.

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>>52363779
Shoota. Orks aren't a melee race.

>>52363641
They're not meant to destroy things in melee, they're tarpit units.

T5 infantry with subborn and three wounds, you charge them in to approaching enemy infantry and hold them up for 3-4 rounds of combat while they maybe put a few wounds on them.

The problem is they're just too expensive to furfil that role, make the standard ogryns 20 points per model do you can buy a squad of 5 for 100 points and they would be good without making changes to them. 30 points for bullgryns maybe, 35 per bullgryn with a maul.

>>52363777
>malal daemonkin
My nigga

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>>52363779
Am I delirious or do I remember someone once saying "Shoota boyz are better because orks are already dead killy in close combat so it is better to have them shoot lots before going in because they're gonna wreck face anyway" ?

>>52363663
I like the suggestions to have it function off of wounds instead of models and have Bosspoles give a bonus to the total and be more widely available.

Either that, or you could have it count the wounds in the squad, along with any other unit within 6". That way a squad of specialist boyz next to a mob of normal boyz would get bolstered, and the boyz in front would similarly be less scared because of the guys behind them backing them up.

>>52363779
Slugga Boyz, they get an extra attack, and at WS4. With their T-shirt saves, they'll need them, because once whoever's left after whoever attacks/shoots at them, they'll be able to dish out some nice damage.

>>52363575
Agreed. Ogryn need to be 25 points and Bullgryn need to be 30. The power maul upgrade should be 10. 60 points for Ap4 is ridiculous.

>>52363777
>Chaos Orks
They're like regular Orks but with half the special rules and all their weapons blow up in their face?

>>52363821
Precisely

>>52363813
Is taking 'eavy armour on boyz worth it?

>>52363815
Yeah. The unit I would compare it to would be Chaos Spawn from CSM. 3 wounds, MoN for toughness 5, and being beasts, and they're only about 35 points for all that.

The extra saves/guns/AP that Ogryn get in comparison is offset by their low speed. There is no reason they should cost double.

>>52363847
No, just focus on buying units to stand in the way of what they're shooting so they get cover saves.

Trukks explode so only transport meganobz in them.

>>52363847
No. It's a trap option that might be worth it if it was 2ppm rather than the 4ppm it is now. 40 points MINIMUM for a 4+ save on your basic troops is retarded. If you have spare points at the end of making your list, still don't take it. You're better off buying other upgrades or even units.

>>52363858
I think if they were to buff Orks, the only thing that would need to change for Boyz is mob rule. They're a pretty decent unit overall. Cheap as chips too

>>52363821
>Possessed Boyz
>WS4 BS1 S4 T4 W1 I1 A1 6+
>At the start of each player turn roll a D6
>1 place an apocalyptic blast marker over the unit and remove every ork unit even partially under it (friend or foe) from game with no saves allowed
>2-3 they get an Assault 3 Strength 4 AP - Daemonfire ability
>4-5 they get an Assault 1 Strength 5 AP 3 Gets hot Daemonfire ability
>6 Daemork claws: Range Melee S User -1 AP4 Unwieldy Gets Hot
>If you Declare a Waagh! They charge any unit closest to them

Do most people approve of bringing Legacies of Glory? Can't seem to choose them in the list builder, which is kind of a red flag imo

>>52363821
I see it as a sort of micro dex with maybe 2 units for each chaos god.

Nurgle gets zombie Ork boyz that have no guns but are toughness 5 and still dirt cheap, along with MANz with toughness 6 as a more elite unit.

Khorne gets Stormboyz back, whose thing is having higher Ballistic skill and better guns. Boyz with heavy armor and something better than shootas doing their best Fire Warrior impression, but still able to tear it up in melee.

Tzeentch gives you your most cunning units, Weirdboyz as the psychic might, and Kommandos which have something similar to Genestealer cult's ambush traits.

Slaanesh is the most excessive and Flashy. You get a mix of Flash Gitz and Lootas that are still BS 2, but put out an excessive amount of shots per guy. Basically just always maxed out on the roll.

It could be done in an interesting and good way, but of course GW would be certain to screw it up.

>>52363892
Don't forget can buy mark of slaanesh 4ppm to take them to I2

>>52363896
If you have the book and tell your opponent beforehand then I dont see why not.

>>52363777
>Dark Admech
Good
>Chaos Orks
Lame
>Chaos Eldar
Good
>Sons of Malice
Lame
>Malal Daemonkin
Malal is copyrighted, sorry pal

>>52363705
Yu'Vath would be pretty neat - if we actually knew what the fuck the Yu'Vath WERE.

Alternatively, Chaos Kroot

>>52363906
I'm not gonna lie. I think orks are too stupid to get corrupted by chaos

>>52363896
Use with care, Battle for Keylek can elicit a lot of negative feelings. If you can convince your opponent to let you use FW then you have carte blanche. If you're talking about the image based list builder, FW support is next to none because the creator is a faggot.

>>52363924
>chaos orks
>lame
End your life my son

>>52363935
Very few Orks used to be Chaos worshipping back in old lore, like with Stormboyz even worshipping Khorne as well, but that was a rarity, iirc. Though Stormboyz were always odd in that they were organized.

Orks that worshipped Chaos were usually krumped by other Orks though, because they weren't orky enough.

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Will new edition make Orks and Tyranids viable again ? One can only hope.

>>52363896
My personal rule is, "If you actually have the book with you, and it's not a flagrantly bullshit ability, I'll let you play it."

It's the same rules I follow when I run my Chaos Contemptors (Slaaneshi Contemptors with 2 TL Heavy Bolter w/ Malefic Ammo is pretty mean) No, Chaos doesn't have access to Kheres Assault Cannons, they get Butcher Cannons and Conversion Beamers instead

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>>52363935
They had fluff in the old rules. The big thing is that Orks tend to dislike anyone acting too un-orky.

Stormboyz tended to be scene as a phase where young Orks would act really disciplined and military, but eventually grow out of it and go back to chopping.

Orks aren't immune to Chaos though, it's just that they often get punched to death before a real cult can grow. No reason you couldn't expand on it for the cases that it works out though.

>>52363358
This thread has the correct title and the more appropriate OP image.

That makes this the real general.

>>52363950
But they are fucking lame

>>52364002
Your life is lame

>>52363705
>Men of Iron
>Soul Forge demons
>Dark Admech
>Croneworld Eldar
>Chaos Abhumans/Mutants, like GSC but with Ogryns rebelling against their masters instead of Genestealer cultists.

>>52363935
>>52363973
Orks worshipped chaos all the time but 'WAAGH' energy could uncorrupt an Ork so most of them would grow out of it.

>>52363705
Slaanesh Daemonkin
Sisters of Chaos
Legions of the Minor Gods
Cult of Desire
Wraiths of Chaos

>>52363973
>>52363993
>Orks that worshipped Chaos were usually krumped by other Orks though, because they weren't orky enough.
This is what I was thinking of bringing up, but then I remembered humans krump chaos worshipping humans because they aren't human enough but there are still plenty of cultists to go around, so why not orks kultists?

>>52363984
Getting to hit first when you charge could easily let lower initiative armies get them in melee, so hopefully they actually buff factions like they should instead of fucking up the rules.

>>52364017
GORK AND MORK CONFIRMED FOR SAVING THE UNIVERSE FROM CHAOS

>>52363913
>>52363944
>>52363985
Thanks!
Yeah, the list builder is kind of a pain about that. I've gotten the green light of fielding a Badab chapter with a Deredeo so they'll probably approve of a Schism of Mars.

I've all the books on my phone and we've got the actual codices / Imperial Armour in our locale. Gonna ask them to review my army before I purchase it anyway, can just ask them about it next time.

>>52364039
You know, Gork and Mork are so powerful they see fighting the chaos gods as a waste of time

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>>52364014
>Soul Forge Daemons

Pic related, but stuffed full of Daemons.

what the fuck would be the difference between Iron Warriors and Dark Admech?

>>52364040
Are you the lad with the Raptors, and I think allied Scions in? I can't remember exactly but you might want to have a transport in there for non-infiltrate transit for the Sternguard. If not nevermind.

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r8 my Salamander 500 point army

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>>52363924

>Chaos Eldar
>good
>Chaos Orks
>lame

>>52364082
>wanting to ruin Orks

>>52364072
The dark mechanicus are chaos adeptus mechanicus

That's the difference

>>52364072
One is a Space Marine Legion, and ultimately has the warrior-culture associated with one.

The other is a half-insane robot-man-demon who's personality can be anywhere from, "MURDERFUCK EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME" to "Let me build my robo-daemon-waifu in peace," and anywhere in between.

In addition, Dark Mechanicus are often "pet Forge Worlds" for certain CSM's, and act as resupply points and tech-support for the more finnicky and ill-tempered tech they utilize.

>>52364082
I don't get that either. A Chaos Ork book could be really varied and have a lot of interesting and weird things going on.

A Chaos Eldar book would basically be like the assassin codex and have 1 super-powerful croneworld Eldar for each Chaos god.

>>52364072
Iron Warriors are marines that use demon engines and AdMech uses servitors and demon engines.

>>52364123
Why not merge both?

Or I can see GW pulling a jew and releasing Dark Admech and Iron Warriors codex at the same time.

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>>52364078
Oh man I feel famous!

Yeah, that's me but I figured I'd go with the expensive list I've been working on anyway.

What's your point about Sternguard transport? In case I don't want to infiltrate them?

>>52364139
>Why not merge both?

The Dark Mechanicus has absolutely zero desire to serve Perturabo, and the Iron Warriors have too many daddy issues because Papa Was A Rollin' Stone to really defy the will of Perturabo in any meaningful way.

>>52364139
DarkMech can be aligned to gods, they aren't bound to IW

IW generally treats non-Marines like shit as well

>>52364139
Why doesn't GW just merge Loyalist Mechanicus and Iron Hands?

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>>52364142
The transport should inherit infiltrate since you can buy it as dedicated. I'm open to correction on that but the reasoning is to allow them to redeploy as they are your best adaptive guns thanks to the special ammo. The advice was with regards to the other list but I think it still holds with the one you've got there. Nice to see Whirlwinds, not often they get used.

>>52363701
Real talk: because they are uncoordinated and slow to react. IG already have a hedgerow of bayonets ready by the time they close for blows.

The boost you get from charging is in the form of extra attacks. Chargers going first fucks up a whole lot of units and effectively reduces ccw focused armies effectiveness by allowing units like IG to completely fuck your genestealers into the ground by charging.

How long does it take an order from games workshop to get to around toronto, canada?

>>52364212
Thanks, forgot entirely about that!
Is it worth losing a Scout for a Rhino and two combi-grav? Would I get too low a body count? Maybe I should look for alternatives?

And yeah, haven't bought any yet but the Whirlwinds seem like a nice deal. They also seem quite fluffy for the army, especially in the SuppForce formation.

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Playing in a 8000 per side Guard vs Chaos match right now /tg/ and yes Shadowsword is in play too. Put your bets on who will win. What are you anons doing?

>>52364299
Glory to Chaos

>>52364299
FOR THE DARK GODS

Anons, I must choose between buying Exalted Sorcerers and Slambo. (Why is Slambo a meme?)

>>52364299
Just finished up a squad of CSM, about to get to work on some Chosen. I wanted to add a squad of Word Bearers to my force with some Power Mauls and Flamers for tearing up hordes.

I bought a pot of paint from my flgs and I didn't open it until I'd say a month after a bought it. When I did open it was very chunky and most likely not usable. I tried stirring it but it still stayed really "solid." Most definitely not dried out but it is definitely different from how normal paint is. Do you think I could trade it in or has it been too long?

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>>52364299
god speed soldier

>>52364299
Finished a game of Imperial Fists vs Guard, which my Fists won thanks to my deep-striking Ironclad. Currently debating buying Tzaangors with Slambo and Exalted Sorcerers.

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>>52364343
>I wanted to add a squad of Word Bearers to my force with some Power Mauls and Flamers for tearing up hordes.

These are the best Power Mauls, and I REALLY wish we would get some Power Maul bits as a Chaos player. Not having any of them that aren't on a fixed unit is annoying as fuck.

>>52364352
buy one pot of the same kind, take it home a few days, then bring back the old one and ask for store credit

>>52363358
Fuck your gay thread, you have been derailing generals the past few day, fuck you.

>>52362954
Name a closer board.

>>52364352
just put a LITTLE bit of water in it and shake it violently.

>>52364379
I actually do have some of those lying around, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to use them, or some of the Deathwatch maces I picked up. I kind of like the simpler look of the latter ones.

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>>52364397
A gaming board.

>>52364397
/co, /aco, and /d.

>>52364288
I think you only need one speeder from that Whirlwind formation, with your leftover points to 1500 that should cover a razorback without dropping anything else.

>>52364299
Come on, Guard. Smack a bitch up.

Currently filling some Imperial Knight seams as best I can, but earlier today I played a 2.8k Admech vs Orks, which was fun as I've never played them before. Kustom Battle Fortress for them, Knight Warden for me. Took WarConvo, but paid for all my upgrades despite taking all the free shit, since I just wanted Canticles. Orks had 3k.
I won, just. Had one Kastelan BeepBoop, one laserless Dunecrawler and a squad of Bolter Inq acolytes with a psyker left, after the Knight and Battlefortress killed each other and most of that side of the board in a giant series of Titanic and Regular vehicle explosions.

Highlights include:

- SAG dropping my Knight to two HP with S:D, and my Dominus smacking it back to full with the Uncreator Gauntlet of cool.

- One lone Mek challenging the Infiltrator Princeps, preventing him from haywiring a Battlewagon I multicharged, then killing him and Sweeping the squad with his Killsaw, before taking the last hull point off the Knight and mutual-killing the TP Dominus.

- Two lone Rangers sniping Grukk (spelling?) of his last wound after absurdly lucky LoS and FnP rolls left him on 1 with nothing else left to fire.

- Squad of snapfiring (GtG from Dakkajet) Vanguard killing the jet and then a Meganop in CC.

- The one unit of Grots that pulled down my Infiltrators and OX Inquisitor after they'd slowly hacked through some 'Ardboys (Those 4+es saved so many boyz it was absurd).

- The one single Grot that stood in front of my Knight and forced me to charge him just to get through. A Fire Shielded, Gauntleted, fully operational Knight seething with flames and techno-archaotech energies rolling three Deathblows on ONE GROT.

Great game, but looked a little shit due to this being my friend's old Ork collection, from before when he knew that Primer was a thing, so no photos.

>>52364397
/toy/

>>52364426
and /v/

>>52364447
*Ruststalker Princeps, sorry. The Infiltrators were locked in that three-turn slugfest with a bunch of 'Ardboyz.

>>52363473
Inquisition does well to fill ____. So do marines (bonus points for iron hands or successors) to fill heavy infantry.

Tempestus and sisters are kind of a waste.

Ig are great for blast templates.

>>52364400
I tried this but it stayed chunky

>>52364381
I'll try this out

>>52364299
Give 'em hell Guardsman.

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>>52363260
>2£ more than the ork boyz box
>no horrible gorilla poses
>ripped as fuck
>require bare minimum conversions
Ork boyz are death to me

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>>52364299
I played a game, was fun.
Here's my entire guard army about to kill 2 space marines while a comptenor chaseds them

>>52364525
How do you explain the paper bag save with all that armor tho?

>>52364525
Shame they don't come with guns. Still, seems like a much better deal than trying to go for the standard Ork boyz or converting Age of Sigmar stuff

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>>52364440
Yeah, picked two since I don't wanna lose the sweet formation bonus as soon as one dies. Also, their two Heavy Bolters do quite a bit of damage for 50 pts.

>36" 5 4 Heavy 6
>24" 4 5 Rapid Fire 5
One can secure objectives, the other can keep enemies away from them.

May I ask why a Razorback would be better than a standard Rhino? Is a Heavy Bolter that much better than a Storm Bolter or am I missing something else?

>>52364525
They're also 35 mm.

But they are like a three piece assembly so they are all monopose without converting first.

>>52364579
'Eavy Armor is a thing, 4+ armor save.

>>52364525
>no horrible gorilla poses

Hopefully we'll get new Boyz models without them too.

I'd use those models as proxies but then I'd need to buy guns and shit too and it'll get expensive.

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>>52364299
Just greenstuffed this shit together. First time ever really doing anything visual with greenstuff that's not just filling gaps or something, hope it turns out alright.

>>52364598
Yeah, but it's a points sink.

>>52364589
Rhino may actually be better, I just adore Razorbacks. You can shoot from the Rhino too aside from it being cheaper and having the repair chance is good. I wouldn't waste points on a second Storm Bolter as you want to be moving rather than getting to use two weapons. Unless you really want the Lord Commissar I'd spring for a barebones CCS for the guard to give you two additional orders per turn. If you put the snipers on the CCS they'll have BS4 compared to the PCS.

>>52364579
This>>52364598 or just aluminum or any scrap metal they could salvage, only because they are armoured doesn't mean they are using high quality or even optimal armour to fight, most likely to show off shiny bits, the are some flash gitz.

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From a few threads back.

>>52364646
Only because Boyz are so cheap at the baseline. If heavy armor was like 2 points, it'd be more worthwhile. As it stands, you can spend 11 points on a Boy to end up with a shittier Fire Warrior.

>>52364684
Why is this screenshot so high quality

>>52364684
>someone capped my random shitpost
I feel honored.

>>52364699
It was a high quality statement, that's why :^)

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One fateful day on the Sorcerer Planet of the Thousand Sons, the Chaos Space Marines regrouped from the terrible Burning of Prospero. The tragic event left the numbers of Magnus's legion forever ravished. Again.
Upon a guard tower, two of these astartes turned to each other after the fact.
"Brother, the numbers came in. There are exactly one thousand of us left."
"Exactly one thousand? Exactly? That is woefully fitting."
"Well, kind of fitting."
"Only kind of? We are the Thousand Sons. That there are now a thousand Thousand Sons, it is nearly too coincidental to be true."
"Well there is that, yes. But we serve Tzeentch, do we not? His divine number is but one digit away."
"Well, we are not the Nine-Hundred and Ninety-Nine Sons now, are we?"
There came a silence between the two, all sound drowned out as if there were a God somewhere near, deep in thought. And then from high above came a flash of light.
KRA-KOOM!
A bolt of energetic lightning from the sky, and soon, the legionnaire who last spoke was suddenly awash in blue and purple warpflame. He screamed, flailing, and fell to his death from the tower they stood. The other astartes looked on with naught but a singular thought within his head. He voiced it aloud.
"I serve a strange legion."

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>mfw meanwhile, the /po/hack is slowly samefaging his dank christ-chan thread into oblivion

Justice.

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Tried out something different to put my hoard of bolter bitches to work for a change. They've been collecting dust since they changed the minimum squad size to 5 with the 6th Codex.

I want to give GW all my money but they just refuse to release the new Death Guard models already. Are they gonna release a DG supplement too, if they're bringing out new units?
>>52364789
>They've been collecting dust since they changed the minimum squad size to 5 with the 6th Codex.
What, was it lower before?

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I made a thing

Anyone wanna give me a quick rundown on the adepticon stream?

Also I finally assembled my breacher team today and I gotta say that fire warriors are still god damn sexy models. I hope they survive the Age of Emperoring

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>>52364726
I'm laughing like an idiot, good job anon

>>52364817
I feel like I know those lyrics but can't put my finger on any particular song.

>>52364699
I was browsing on my phone and took a screenshot, then just snipped it down with paint. I should resize it though.

>>52364804
Nah they're just gonna release Mortarion with no rules :^)

>>52364846

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRbZJXjWIA

The sound

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>>52364699
>>52364703
>>52364852
I hope that's better for you, senpai.

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>>52364846
>https://youtu.be/oFRbZJXjWIA

>>52364822
Theyll get to strike first if they get the charge on anything so theres that

>>52364664
Sorry for the slow reply, phonecall.
I picked the Lord Commissar because HQ + leadership. I could switch it out for a CCS and a Priest tho. What should I do with the PCS then? Put them in the Vendetta and just drop them off somewhere to die painfully?

I think I'll cheap out on the Rhino for now; it also comes in bundles, which is cheaper!

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>go to store to pick up some stuff
>ask owner when the next tournament/chance to play is
>says all of April is booked with AoS, MTG, YGO, Netrunner and FoW
>will talk to his buddy that organizes the events when he's there for their AoS tourney
>"Oh, alright, that's cool."
>leave store
>remember that I also wanted to ask if he knows if the other players have a Facebook group or chat that they use to meet for out-of-store games

FUCK. Guess I'll have to wait until May or until I get a chance to ask when I visit the store for my next games.

>>52364871
>>52364877
Shit, of course.

I feel stupid now.

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>>52364822
Tau were my first army waaay back when they first came out at the same time as I started to get interested in 40k after starting with LotR. Fire warrior models were probably the biggest reason for that, especially this peice of art, which if my memory serves, used to be the box art for the Devilfish.

I'm too much of a dedicated Imperial Guard fag to build a Tau army now, but I'm always tempted to buy a Breacher team just to paint up, they're everything I loved about the original fire warrior models but improved upon.

>>52364896
CCS is HQ but does have weaker LD and no stubborn. The PCS is used to either give the CCS orders despite the weirdness of how that works in lore or boosts squads not in range for the CCS.

>>52364817
Thanks for the mental image of an incredibly laid back commissar with a Jamaican accent.

>>52364804

In C:WH and the white dwarf Codex, the minimum squad size for a battle sister squad was 10, which meant needing 8 other bolters per squad. Back in the WH Codex, it wasn't that bad because sisters could give themselves not!rending, so running more than 2 troops was perfectly fine. I have enough bolter models to run a squad of 20 in a 2000pt game.

>>52364936
Did you play high elves and/or Harad in lotr? If yes, are you me?

>>52364969
Nah, Uruk Hai. Love me some pikes.

Can't cope with metal models either.

Advice on Deathwatch? I was thinking about doing a Kill team, or a small force and an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor.

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>>52364948
Wait, rememeber I'm a noob.. So the PCS can 'direct' the CCS orders? Hence the two commands from CCS affects the PCS as well?

>>52365021
You have lots of options, honestly. Do you want close shooty, long shooty, choppy, mobile etc?

>>52364426
>/d/
no

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>New store opens up near me
>Finally get a chance to play after having my army sit there collecting dust
>Barely anyone shows up to play 40k
>Always stuck getting my ass kicked by the same Necron army every week

I can only hope 8e brings in new people

>>52364936
Do it, I literally got 3 knights that I never use unless I play against the other Knight player, this includes orkz, deldars, guard and skitarii; I'm mainly a mass infantry SW player.

>>52365039
Sorry I wasn't clear. CCS can issue two orders a turn, PCS can issue one a turn. So you could have the CCS issue senior level orders to infantry and the PCS could issue a junior level order to the CCS. That sort of thing. With your left over points either invest in special weapons for the tacticals or more combi weapons.

>>52365087
>/d/
yes

Why the fuck aren't Kroot rifles/guns assault weapons?

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>>52365087
>no
Anon please

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>>52365109
>Getting your ass kicked by necrons

Necrons can be played around pretty easily if you know how to do it, unless you're playing dark Eldar since they're immune to all your poison weapons

>tfw I lost my love for this game

>>52365125
Ah thanks! Was considering keeping the CCS back with the ADL, holding an obj, sniping and using the Quad-gun for anti-air. Maybe I should get something else to do that?

Sadly I've got no pts to spare, the last 25 pts are for the Schism of Mars, which I can't 'pick' because Imperial Armour.

>>52365144
I only started playing back in January so part of the reason is I have no idea what Im doing

>>52365130
Because they're huge long spehs-muskets with massive spikes on either end.

Not exactly a compact carbine that can be fired on the move.

Kroot are gibbering primitives too, so they don't have any kind of technology that would allow them to fire those things and move like say, Skitarii.

>>52363260
Please don't cuck the Visarch.

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>>52364761
>be me a few days ago
>getting really triggered by all the shit posting about 40k being dead
>just want to discuss the upcoming 8th edition changes
>decide to start ripping on all the "grognards" like a highschool bully
>its working
>go back on /tg/ a few hours later
>mfw some dude has been copy pasting the things I wrote over and over again and flooding /tg/
>he's using the christ chan picture
>I agree with him but hes taking this way too far
>I just wanted the shit posters to fuck off
>I never asked for this
>I created a monster

I am sorry 40kg, I know not what I did.

>>52365146
Need further information

>>52365144
>they're immune to all your poison weapons

w..wat

really?

I play Deldar and my army is basically 100% splinter weapons. Should I be avoiding cron players like the plague?

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>>52365146

>>52364633
ya don't need propa gunz ya gitz, ya steal dem and convert dem propa orky

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>>52365127
>>52365137
Slaanesh pls go

About done with these Carcharodons. Still have to do tribal tatoos when I feel confident enough to get a micron pen and try it.
My highlights are still thick as shit and the faceplate could be thinner.
But still, it's a blast to paint these, can't wait for plastic mk5 so that I can truely make them as they should be.

Do note that the eyes are shiny but it doesn't show. Tempted to try the standard highlights with greys instead of just shiny black, in order to depict the void black eyes lenses.

Waiting on some resin to make their bases look like they're walking in some dark waters, what's with being void predators and all.

>>52365144
This meme

>>52365146
Playing Heralds of Ruin, we had 6 games on the time of a single 40k game. Each game with different armies and list.

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>>52365189
Only the Emperor can judge your crimes.

Only in death can your receive the Emperor's judgement

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>>52365228
Woopsie.

>>52365214
It's the new meme
Necrons aren't really immune to poison unless they all become AV4 walkers
>millions of Necrons chain-exploding everywhere

>>52365186
>a rifle with a bayonet can't be used to fire/charge
wot

>>52365186
Kroot rifles need an option to buy shotgun shells

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Where is my cute sister of battle, drawfag?
Where is she???

>>52363984
Why? NPC Races are shit.

I AM ELDAR

I AM TUROK

>>52365189
We dont even know what the changes to 8th will be.
All they've given us are some vague as fuck statements that could mean anything.

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>>52365189
Your only option is to seek redemption in death, travel on a crusade to the eye of terror (pol) and post as much interracial porn as you can before being banned

>>52365189
If you made that singsong grognard thing I will never forgive you lad.
>>52365175
What stays back with the ADL will probably depend on what you are facing. PCS is possibly a good default since Platoon Commander has BS4 for using the AA gun. Other than that I've got nothing, good luck with the list.

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>>52365241
>me on the right

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>>52364953

I feel like doing jokes about the High Command. But I will not.

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>>52365188
That ship is long gone anon

Is it possible to make a really badass independent character for the Imperial Guard who could toe-to-toe with enemy characters, or is Imperial Guard all quantity over quality?
>>52365273
At least Orks are a really fun and characterful NPC army. And they're fun to play against, at least you're actually defending the Galaxy from a menace rather than just fighting differently coloured Space Marines.

>>52365245
pretty good paintjob but the Carcharodons are shark themed right? should get some fins painted on their shoulders or helmets. maybe some teeth painted over their faces?

>>52365189
You fed the ghost of Virt, you fool!

>>52365311
Carcharodons' only thing is they have all chain weapons and their armour is full of molecular bonding studs, not shark motifs.

>>52365189
That's bad. Bad anon. I hope you've learned your lesson about shitstorming.

>>52365214
Splinter weapons are S1 poison 4+, necrons are robots and thus immune to poison so you'd have to wound them off 6s with your S1 or they are immune if they're T5 like lords, also fleshbane doesn't work on them

>>52365292
Thank you so much anon, helped me alot today!

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>>52365270
This is his last update I know of, anon.

>>52365260
They're not just rifles, they're pretty much as long as the kroot are tall.

It's basically the difference between an M4 and a Mosin-Nagant w/ bayonet fixed.

One's designed for short range engagements, the other isn't. Sticking something pointy on the end doesn't change their characteristics when shooting.

>>52365056
I just want to OPERATE

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>>52365292
I wrote everything hes been spamming the boards with, word for word copies of my first posts on thursday.

>>52365288
I accept my mission

>>52365311
As said, not confident enough to try it with a brush, I'll use a micron pen.

However I definitelt intend the veterans to have many more markings, like Exile tattoos and blood markings on their helmets, since that's how they discern veterans.

>>52365335
No he's right, they have a distinct Shark and polynesian background. Hell, they straight up use Maori words, like Tapu for sacred items and weapons, and their Chief Librarian is named Te Kahurangi.

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>>52365189
You walked away of the Emperor's light and forever be dammed, you're not welcome here anymore, begone with (you)

>>52365288
Do /pol/ mods actually ban people posting interracial porn? Lmao the insecurities are showing.

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>>52365144
>tfw you make a single shitpost and it spreads into a cancerous meme

I'm proud

>>52365446
No, you get banned for posting porn. It's against board rules.

>>52364299
GO ON COMRADE, FOR THE EMPEROR!

>>52365372
Post pics or link the posts before you're killed

>>52365446
Race mixing is the easiest way to trigger someone who's alt right/white nationalist

>>52365484
how do you link threads/posts from other threads?

>>52365360
Wellx if you like the idea of stalker bolter sniper squad, I can tell you a purgatus Kill team with 8 stalker vets, a Cyclone missile terminator, and a librarian is pretty damn killy. You could also go cheaper with just vets with stalkers in an aquila and tag on an inquisitor with a conversion beamer.

I am also a fan of shotguns, frag cannons, and heavy flamer terminator in a furor team.

How do vet necron players want them to change in 8th? I started necrons about six months ago and have been enjoying them, that always striking first bullshit is gonna make scythe lychguard pretty angry in CC for sure if they get the charge

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>>52365469
>/pol/ is suoer touchy about not getting out of subject bullshit into their precious safespace
>Yet cry muh free speech, muh triggered SJW when someone calls them out on doing exactly that to other boards

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>>52365372

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>>52365372
take this with you

it shall aid you

>>52365553
I'd like the interesting wargear back.

>>52365555
Yeah big surprise they are hypocrites

You'd be surprised how many racists/white supremacists have black girlfriends

To get back to /tg/ stuff what does 40ks version of 4chan look like?

>>52363260

Why are there a million threads? I'm notifying your general to the authorities.

>>52365555
No, it's against all board's rules to post porn unless it's a designated porn board.

>>52365608
Because everyone realized /tg/ is really easy to b8

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>>52365589
but with more skulls

The 'Dark Angels Gauntlet Tactical Squad' says it 'contains a ten-man Space Marines Tactical Squad, a Rhino, and a Dark Angels Upgrade Pack'.

I assume both the Rhino and the Tacs are 'normal' SM models then?

>>52365608
Because other OP is a faggot

>>52365589
Literally consumes the soul of whoever loads the page after a Dark Mechanicum tech-priest uploaded a daemonic scrapcode meme 8,000 years previously.

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>>52363779
Shootas, because 2 shots over 24" (if i remember the range correctly) is a fuck ton better than single extra attack in melee. If slugga boys and shootaboys cost the same, picking shootas is a no-brainer.

>>52365608
Shitposting faggot keeps creating meme threads early and then trying to divert people there so everything devolves into shitposting about the /pol/faggotry contained in the OP.

>>52365310
If you give a lord commissar the deathmask and a powerfist he's pretty great. That puts him at like 120 points though. For 25 more points yarrick gets better guns, better toughness, eternal warrior and he gets back up on a 3+, plus he gives out 2 senior orders. He does lose 1 attack though.

You could also just do a lord commissar with a blade of conquest or power axe.

Primaris psyker is solid too for 50 points because he can have a force axe. Would recommend making him ml2 for 25 points though.

>>52363485
Anything you want. Like, Templer don't just run towards things to kill them, they also act like normal marines.

>>52365612
It's also against the rules to post /pol/shit outside of /pol/.

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>>52363260
>Yvraine+Guilliman=<3 Edition
obligatory

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>>52365484
>>52365558
>>52365577
>>52365288
>>>No.118282273

It has been an honor serving with you, brothers.

>>52365696
God damn he was doing that shit half a week ago, that's some autistic levels of dedication, are mods always asleep or something?

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Guys don't post fascist stuff, you'll trigger nutg

I'll get a rending shot on you.

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>>52365612
Same goes for /pol/, so what gives?

>>52365739
>>>118282273
never cross board linked before

>>52365739
Remove No

>>52365647
Yep, the upgrade pack is free, which makes the box bave a really good price for what's in it.

>>52365655
Shootaboyz are +1ppm, and BS2.

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>>52365753
>don't shitpost
>on 4chan

Well what the fuck am I supposed to do on here?

>>52365760
>>118282273
third times the charm

>>52365722
Half Eldar Librarians returning when?

>>52365778
I read this as Shotaboys and was momentarily confused

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>>52365787
waifufagging. not a bannable offence. yet.

>>52365760
well I have no idea how to cross board link, but I am doing the emperors work on /pol/ as we speak.

>>52365794
>signs you spend too much time on /h/

>>52365778
It still improves the threat range of the squad, and helps them earn value even if they don't reach melee.

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>>52365815
>no culexus qt to go on REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING PSYKERS FUCKING SHITS rampages with

>>52365778
I think it's still more versatile. Particularly with assault being what it is in 7e.

Maybe if assault becomes more viable in 8e, sluggas might be a better investment.

>>52365787
Engage in proper discussion ya dingus.

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>>52365815
Posting smug anime faces is universal for all boards anon

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>>52365778
BS2 doesnt mean shit when you fire 40+ shots. Next youre going to say lootaz are shit because bs 2 ? Hell, even deffcoptas with bs2 twinlinked rokkits are a good pick.

Even at +1pts the shootaboys are better.

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>>52365879
I want to attach an execution force to my scions list and convert them to look like the execution force from the Horus Heresy novels.

Not sure how I'm going to do the femCulexus yet, either find a suitable body and just stick the head on it, or greenstuff the regular model to have curves.

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>>52365889
This general is way to fucked for proper discourse, people need to start making topic threads until 8th hype/butthurt dies down along with all the trolls trying to make a name for themselves

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>>52365938
>BS2 doesnt mean shit when you fire 40+ shots.
>Statistically kills two muhreens per shooting phase

Everyone, I give you Ork players.

Given that Orks have BS2... Well, context before I finish that thought:

-Untrained conscript humans have BS2
-Only drop to BS1 if -blinded- or under conditions forcing them to snap fire

Given that Orks have a ballistic skill score of "Hasn't even practiced", do they just love dakka for the noise it makes and explosions with bigger guns, rather than actually particularly caring about guns as weaponry?

I mean, they have human veteran or space marine level WS, it's not like the species can't become skilled at something.

>>52365957
This entire thread has been normal, though.

>>52365589
Tyranids communicate through a chan-esque imageboard in their minds
only the swarmlord is allowed in /vip/

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>>52365957
Trolls gaining a recognizable form.

Just like daemons in the warp latching onto grognard rage about being BTFO.

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I still don't know how to link threads from other boards, but its working guys. /pol/ is accusing me of being part of a secret jewish organization who's sole purpose is to post interacial porn on their board every day.

I need more ammunition before the mods ban, almost out of blacked.com stuff

>>52366009
>do they just love dakka for the noise it makes and explosions

Yes.

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>>52366010
>Only has 74 participants in a 3 hour thread in the middle of the day.

>>52366009
That's actually the exact reason. Orks love guns because they go bang and boom and all that. The fact that they also kill things and/or go boom also helps.

The only Ork unit that is BS3 are the Dakkajet Flyboyz. Other than that, only Grots are BS3.

>>52365146
How so? I took a break for a few months and came back with enthusiasm for the game.

>>52366019
They've actually had issues with their mods not deleting such spam all day and probably all of yesterday as well.
>>52366010
This thread has been, if you bother to engage with people asking questions.

>>52366019
Wish I could find that thread or wherever you're posting it.

>>52366019
What's the name of the thread so someone can search it

>>52365021
Deathwatch have an erase button for everything, but not the numbers to really make it work against big armies.

In order to make them work you have to play to the mission. That's how you OPERATE. So, really you're looking at multiple detachments to use lone bikers, and the fornation, while dropping pods down.

Bettet buy some more codexes, cause you'll have to know other peoples armies better than they do.

>>52366069
>>52366070
It just got deleted actually lol. I tried linking it like 4 times above but couldnt figure out.

apparantly /pol/ thinks there is a secret organization against them, who post threads daily on their board to try and flood out their own more "meaningful" threads.

>>52366006
The same points worth of Marines with bolters only kills 2.5 Orks per shooting phase, and that's assuming they aren't getting cover saves.

I think the Orks are coming out on top of this trade, especially considering they can shoot and then charge.

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>>52366009
>do they just love dakka for the noise it makes and explosions with bigger guns, rather than actually particularly caring about guns as weaponry?

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>>52366116
>lol

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>>52366101
I got a 3 day ban from /pol/. how do I take screenshots so I can prove my deed? im inept with computers.

>>52365955
Nothing like Imperial Sanctioned skin tight suits.

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>>52366006

Compared to how many marine kills caused by sluggas, considering they have half-range and one less shot ? Uncuck your brain statisticfag.

Btw I dont play orks, only played against them since beginning of 5th.

>>52366137
>Shit all over every other board like bronies because they can't contain their political autism when posting about other topics
>At any given time, one of these boards is retaliating by shitposting on /pol/

There's a reason they got shat all over the minute oldMoot relaxed their board rules and removed the captcha.

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>>52366174
>skin tight suits

Actually it's just Dark Age of Technology bodypaint. It's literally sprayed on.

Imagine the distracting jiggling during their more acrobatic stunts

>yfw this is the real reason for their 4++ not 'superhuman reflexes'

For a 1000 point necron army would it be more useful (for melee support) to have a base level canoptek harvest along with my decurion or use the points for a squad of 7 lynchguard with swords/shields?

>>52366200
You replied to the wrong post, m8

>>52363701
>>52364239
I personally think the issues lies in Overwatch. If your defenders are desperately pulling triggers when a band is charging up to them, they shouldn't then have a perfect defence wall with maximum reflexes at the ready when the chargers hit with their weapons mid-swing. However, there is literally nothing wrong with my incubi getting charged by some slow as shit ogryn and tearing that guy a new asshole before he can blink.

My group and I have always felt there should be some interaction between overwatch and initiative (particularly a boon for the defenders if they skip overwatch to "ready up"), but we've tried a few house rules and nothing has ever felt right.

>>52366245
Harvest is always the more powerful option.

Anyone else watching the Genestealer Cults vs Necrons game on Warhammer TV at Adepticon right now?

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>>52366167
I figured it out, heres the proof /tg/.

i'll learn how to link threads properly and do this again in 3 days.

>>52366114
What do you mean, playing to the mission objectives or just using the mission rules?

>>52365146
>core Space Marine rules are only the core codex and Angels of Death
>most HQ characters are pretty bad and even a 90 point T4 W3 3+/4++ model is mediocre
>most options are outclassed by Grav in every regard and have equivalents in other codices/are from the core rules
>Can't assault from drop pods and have exactly 2 formations that allow Assault Squads to charge from Deep Strike with Jetpacks
>backbone unit of the army is overcosted and can't do shit

Man, Marines are such a broken codex.

>>52366227
Why they make sure to get assassins with massive tits and colossal dicks.

>>52366248
Yeah, i cant be arsed to change it. It's saturday and I was only bitching about /pol/posting anyway.

>>52366227
So you are telling me that necrons, mindless robots immune to poison and fleshbane still lust after sexy well toned body of assassin?

How well would the 30k Victory is Vengeance rules work for normal 40k? Seems like a neat way to play desu

>>52366263
I know exactly how that shits gonna go

>>52363260
You didn't check to see if there was a general already.
>>52363016
>>52363016
>>52363016
>>52363016

>>52366333
>I know exactly how that shits gonna go
Tell me your thoughts, I can't tell which way it's going yet

Cannot fucking wait for 8th Edition changes.
This game isn't fun in its current state.
Getting rid of AP is going to be an amazing change.

>>52366262

Good to know. I already have those models. Watching some mini war gaming matches and lynchguard seem so really wreck shit up

>>52366352
We checked and ignored it, fuck off shitposter.

>>52366352
This general appear to predate that one by four hours.

>>52366352
fuck off

>>52366333
Could work but I think Shadow War will be more granular than it so I would wait for that.

>>52366352
We're tired of the same damned headline topic.
Daemonette's, there, keep your all-devouring and debased transgender semen daemons.

>>52364525
you just gave me a great idea for my ard boyz

thanks anon

>>52366363
Wraiths are the same thing but faster.

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>>52366330
Everyone lusts over sexy well toned bodies. No exceptions. Even soulless robots and genderless biological weaponry.

>>52366330
are necrons immune to poison and fleshbane?

>>52366445
No, he's a shitposter.

>>52366459
I prefer "memer", thank you very much.

>>52366445
no

>>52366445
No.

OH GOD

I WANT TO FUCKK ALL 40K GIRLS

FUCK EM ALL AND TURN EM ALL TO CORRUPTED SLUTTY DAEMONETTES

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>>52363260
Sister of Battle, for my 40k nigas

They said something about modifying armour save in the adepticon thingo. What the fuck is that?

>>52366508
>>52366506
Bad timing, we have a daemon prince of Slaanesh on the loose.

>>52366263
Am now.

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>>52366506

>>52366516
We're going back to armour modifiers instead of AP.

So like a bolter will give you -1 to armour saves instead of being all-or-nothing ignores 5+ and has no effect on 4+

>>52366506
Slaanesh, take your meds, you're acting out again.

>>52366508
Thanks, drawfag!

>>52366352
fuck off faggot. literally this thread is at 300+ while that thread is dead

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>>52366508
>freckles

>>52366523
Fuck...
btw, what should I write on the book, I was going to write MEGA bible on it.
Lectitio Divinatus? Not Lewd?

>>52366422
I love how honest was the creator about the sexy robots.

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Fuck the Arbites.

CHAOS LIVES MATTER.

>>52366544
tHE FUCKIGN RAT STOLE MY FUKICNG JOB

FUCKIG RaT